[newbie] Why is Open Office Writer so slow?
Well, why? In the past I've mostly used Star Office 5.2 which while it doesn't go at the speed of light, leaves Open Office 1.1 standing. It's just taken me about 15 minutes to open a file, make a small alteration and print a single page with about 3 lines of text and a box on it. Oh, and I can't figure out how to change the default printer settings and right now life's too short to try. It's just as well I've got Star Office because if all I had to use was OO, I think I'd be forced to spend a lot more time in Windows. Come to think of it, I might get faster results using Word with Wine. Is everyone else here having the same experience? How do you cope? I'm using it with Mandrake 9.2 and KDE 3.1. on a Pentium III for all the difference it makes. I have no plans to upgrade the software until I get a faster computer. Cheers Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Free space
Alan wrote: Could anybody tell what is the easiest way to monitor the free space on my partitions. In Mandrake 9.1 I used kdiskfree (I think that was the right name) but I can find it on Mandrake 10. Thanks Alan From the command line, type df (without the quotes of course). There's generally a command line option for anything you might want to do. Sometimes it's a bit more complicated than that but it's generally quicker than a GUI. Wish there was a command line version of Open Office :-) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Hard disk clone
H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Tuesday 26 October 2004 21:53, Jack wrote: On Tue, 2004-10-26 at 11:08 +0100, John Richard Smith wrote: Power Quest drive image , a comercial drive image programme, can do almost everything except some of the linux file systems, like reiserf. It can certainly handle resizing well. Norton Ghost ver.9 (actually Drive Image since Symantec took it over) does this as well. As does Paragon Drive Backup (the best of the bunch IMHO) and Acronis True Image. Paragon will backup and restore Linux drives as well as NTFS... - Jack Gads Are you guys really that addicted to mouse-clicks? Type in 4 short commands and it's all done whereas you lot are installing all sorts of not 100% or faulty gui's and clicking all over the screen (at least a100 times or more) with no result at all. Don't let the machine take over: Take over the machinethis is linux/unix!!! I'm late to this thread. Care to list the four commands mentioned? -- Regards SnapafunFrank Big or small, a challenge requires the same commitment to resolve. Registered Linux User # 324213 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] trojan?
On Thu, 2004-10-28 at 15:20, M.Schild wrote: someone sent me this: http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1682854,00.asp Maryse Delete it. -- stephen kuhn mobile: 0410-728-389 illawarra and regional new south wales --- GNU/Linux/OpenSource Solutions and Alternatives 100% Microsoft Free and no viruses Registered Linux User # 267497 Windows: Where do you want to go today? MacOS: Where do you want to be tomorrow? Linux: Are you coming or what? --- I have never seen anything fill up a vacuum so fast and still suck. -- Rob Pike, on X. Steve Jobs said two years ago that X is brain-damaged and it will be gone in two years. He was half right. -- Dennis Ritchie Dennis Ritchie is twice as bright as Steve Jobs, and only half wrong. -- Jim Gettys Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Free space
On Thu, 2004-10-28 at 15:55, Alan wrote: Could anybody tell what is the easiest way to monitor the free space on my partitions. In Mandrake 9.1 I used kdiskfree (I think that was the right name) but I can find it on Mandrake 10. Thanks Alan Same thing; kdf -- stephen kuhn mobile: 0410-728-389 illawarra and regional new south wales --- GNU/Linux/OpenSource Solutions and Alternatives 100% Microsoft Free and no viruses Registered Linux User # 267497 Windows: Where do you want to go today? MacOS: Where do you want to be tomorrow? Linux: Are you coming or what? --- Are you police officers? No, ma'am. We're musicians. -- The Blues Brothers Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Why is Open Office Writer so slow?
On Thu, 2004-10-28 at 16:22, Graham Watkins wrote: Well, why? In the past I've mostly used Star Office 5.2 which while it doesn't go at the speed of light, leaves Open Office 1.1 standing. It's just taken me about 15 minutes to open a file, make a small alteration and print a single page with about 3 lines of text and a box on it. Oh, and I can't figure out how to change the default printer settings and right now life's too short to try. It's just as well I've got Star Office because if all I had to use was OO, I think I'd be forced to spend a lot more time in Windows. Come to think of it, I might get faster results using Word with Wine. Is everyone else here having the same experience? How do you cope? I'm using it with Mandrake 9.2 and KDE 3.1. on a Pentium III for all the difference it makes. I have no plans to upgrade the software until I get a faster computer. Cheers Abiword. -- stephen kuhn mobile: 0410-728-389 illawarra and regional new south wales --- GNU/Linux/OpenSource Solutions and Alternatives 100% Microsoft Free and no viruses Registered Linux User # 267497 Windows: Where do you want to go today? MacOS: Where do you want to be tomorrow? Linux: Are you coming or what? --- Your picture of the world often changes just before you get it into focus. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Hard disk clone
On Thursday 28 October 2004 09:17, SnapafunFrank wrote: I'm late to this thread. Care to list the four commands mentioned? -- Regards SnapafunFrank mount, find, cpio and lilo :) Here's the howto(sort of) .. I copied the lines from my first mail in this thread: What I would do in a situation like this: 1)Create the needed partitions on the new disk --- let's assume it's /dev/hdb and the partions are similar to /dev/hda ..only bigger, using fdisk or cfdiskand make those active or bootable that need to be. 2)unmounting all mounted partitions except / from which you're running...Optionally you can do telinit 1 as su/root which will achieve the same. 3) mount the partitions you want to copy to, on ready made directories in /mnt (i.e. /mnt/disk2, /mnt/disk3, etc..) 4)Then copy all the partitions to hdb going into the toplevel of each partition (excepting /, the root partition) and type (as su/root): find . -xdev | cpio -padm /mnt/diskx (where x is the partition/mount n° needed) 5)Get some coffee as that'll take a while;) 6)reboot using a liveCD or mandrake rescue mode i.e. run in ram. 7)mount your old root partition (/) as well as your new one some where on /mnt/ (i.e. /mnt/oldroot /mnt/newroot° 8)cd into /mnt/oldroot: cd /mnt/oldroot and repeat the find . -xdev | cpio -padm /mnt/newroot (not the quotes and mind the . !) 9)Drink some more coffee and edit /mnt/newroot/etc/lilo.conf and /mnt/newroot/etc/fstab appropiately ...then edit /mnt/oldroot/etc/lilo.conf and add a new entry there called linux-new (or such) pointing to your newroot partition (this way you can back out if something goes wrong!) 10)reboot into your old system (there is a way of running lilo on a not running / , but I never looked how) and run lilo, and reboot again ;( where you now should see linux-new as an added option in your lilo bootmenu.and boot into that. 11) If all goes well you can then remove/delete your old hda partitions physically and from lilo.conf Bear in mind that I myself have never done this with a ntfs or vfat partition so (triple)check those thouroughly before removing/deleting the old stuff!!! -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Thursday 28 October 2004 00:21, Kaj Haulrich wrote: Well H.J. my palm are WET. I know the feeling of messing around in /boot and lilo ! Right now I installed the 2.6.8.1-10 kernel, with no evident errors. But the camera still behaves like in the -12 kernel. So no go here. Next, I'll try to install the 2.4 kernel. Hopefully that'll change things to the better. Kaj Haulrich. Are you running devfs or udev? It should show at bootime if you're running devfs as udev will then be disabled. -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] System time
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 20:48, Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Tuesday 26 October 2004 07:17 pm, Thereidos wrote: On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 17:49:14 -0500 Hoyt Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 26 October 2004 17:16, Thereidos wrote: snip How do you explain the seven hour difference? Seven hours is almost a third of the way around the planet. Now, I know Poland isn't all that much east of the Greenwich meridian -- I make it out as two timezones (hours) to the east. Throw in the daylight/standard time bit, and you might be able to explain a three (or one) hour discrepancy, but not seven. Or has there been a lot of continental drift in your parts lately? Another question: Have you just gone through the transition from daylight to standard time? That has screwed me up a few times. -- cmg Seven hours is here (CST USA) Its what I get when I missconfigure my system time so it is normal for me. I believe the system, at least the disks I get ships with EST (New York) as the default timezone. If you have disks with Polish then they should have a default to somewhere in Poland. There is no defense to dailight saving time which we are currently in. The computer handles that so I dont have to worry about it. This is a prime example of special interest running the country. -- Regards; Hoyt Registered Linux user # 363264 http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Copy from old hard drive
Sorry if this should be an FAQ, but I have been playing with this for a week and am becoming frustrated. I had a 40GB/80GB dual boot system, with data only on the 80GB drive. I have just invested in a 200GB drive and would like to allocate half of each of the 80/200 dives to Linux and Windows. I have them partitioned and installed, but would now like to copy some of the stuff from the old 40GB drive (30 GB fat32, two ext3 partitions). The problem is that if I connect up the old drive, the machine wants to boot from it. /dev/hde3 is NEW linux /root (18GB) /dev/hde5 is NEW linux /home (17GB) /dev/hdf5 is NEW linux data (88GB) /dev/hdg5 is OLD linux /root I can boot from systemrescue CD with all three drives, but keeps wanting to boot from /hdg5. I tried copying lilo.conf from hde3 to hdg5, but of course that failed as /boot on hdg5 did not fit. I have ports and cables to run 4 IDE drives (Raid mobo), but can boot successfully only with two drives. I presume it is something in the MBR, but is there any way to overwrite this to ALWAYS boot from /hde3 Thanks for advice Russell Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Copy from old hard drive
On Thursday 28 October 2004 10:07, Russell Butler wrote: I can boot from systemrescue CD with all three drives, but keeps wanting to boot from /hdg5. I tried copying lilo.conf from hde3 to hdg5, but of course that failed as /boot on hdg5 did not fit. I have ports and cables to run 4 IDE drives (Raid mobo), but can boot successfully only with two drives. I presume it is something in the MBR, but is there any way to overwrite this to ALWAYS boot from /hde3 Boot into linux (hdg5) and add the boot option linux-new( hde3) as a new entry pointing it to that hde3 .AND: be sure that the /etc/fstab on hde3 has been edited accordlingly i.e. pointing to your new partitions not the old ones! Then boot into your new linux entry (hde3) and work your way from there:) -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Wednesday 27 Oct 2004 22:50, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: Methinks there's something ugly going on between hotplug and udev on your system...so you might consider disabling both and using devfs as a service at boot instead. I'm still using 2.6.1-10 (with udev) and thus can't stat your bugit's definitely worth investigating though. I haven't got around to changing to udev yet, so it may not be a factor at all. I have 2.6.1-12 with supermount, and I'm still seeing the problem. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Thursday 28 Oct 2004 08:42, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: Are you running devfs or udev? It should show at bootime if you're running devfs as udev will then be disabled. Mine is udev Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Thursday 28 October 2004 09:42, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Thursday 28 October 2004 00:21, Kaj Haulrich wrote: Well H.J. my palm are WET. I know the feeling of messing around in /boot and lilo ! Right now I installed the 2.6.8.1-10 kernel, with no evident errors. But the camera still behaves like in the -12 kernel. So no go here. Next, I'll try to install the 2.4 kernel. Hopefully that'll change things to the better. Kaj Haulrich. Are you running devfs or udev? It should show at bootime if you're running devfs as udev will then be disabled. I tried the 2.4 kernel, which denied me access to the net (eth0 [failed]) and my mouse. Gave it up. So, now I'm back in 2.6.8.1-12mdk. Disabling udev doesn't improve the matter, and in lilo I have devfs=nomount. However, I can retrieve my photos by booting into runlevel 3, mount the camera as /dev/sda1 and copy the files over. Then reboot to cool down the CPU. Circumstantial, I think. I've been contemplating switching to another distro, but I really love Mandrake in spite of this, and I strongly suspect that whatever distro I choose I will meet another collection of time-consuming issues to get it working. So I'll stay with Mandrake and live with it, as is. That doesn't stop me from wondering, however, why the good folks at Mandrake don't know the good, ole rule : if it ain't broke, don't fix it. In my experience, every new release fixes some bugs, introduces new features , but nevertheless breakes things that worked well before Cheers Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Hardware Question... broken Laptop case
Hi all the laptop of my mum suffered a bit and now the case is broken in the back where the screen is attached to the case. Since the hardware is still fine I just want to know if it's possible to exchange the laptop cases of a Toshiba Satelite 2650 or if someone has experience doing this? Alex Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Why is Open Office Writer so slow?
Am Do, den 28.10.2004 schrieb Graham Watkins um 8:22:
Well, why?
In the past I've mostly used Star Office 5.2 which while it doesn't go
at the speed of light, leaves Open Office 1.1 standing.
It's just taken me about 15 minutes to open a file, make a small
alteration and print a single page with about 3 lines of text and a box
on it.
Oh, and I can't figure out how to change the default printer settings
and right now life's too short to try.
It's just as well I've got Star Office because if all I had to use was
OO, I think I'd be forced to spend a lot more time in Windows. Come to
think of it, I might get faster results using Word with Wine.
Is everyone else here having the same experience?
How do you cope?
I'm using it with Mandrake 9.2 and KDE 3.1. on a Pentium III for all the
difference it makes. I have no plans to upgrade the software until I get
a faster computer.
Cheers
How much memory do you have? I used until recently a PIII 450 with 128
MB, MDK 10.0 in the office and OO was slow but it didn't need 15 Minutes
to open a document.
Now with a Celeron D and 512 MB OO is fast and I see no difference with
my Pentium M and 512 MB. Thus I assume that it's either due to low
memory or there is a problem with your OO installation. Have you tried
to reinstall OO yet?
Alex
PS: Even my really old K6 200 with 112 MB doesn't need 15 mins to open a
file with OO, I just tested it... ('bout 30 secs for 10,7 kb)
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Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Thursday 28 October 2004 10:38, Anne Wilson wrote: I haven't got around to changing to udev yet, so it may not be a factor at all. I have 2.6.1-12 with supermount, and I'm still seeing the problem. When kaj ran tail -f /var/log/messages whilst plugging in the camera there were some strange entries on sda's size and sort. What does your's say? From what I've seen until now, I'd eliminate supermount as the culprit. I take this a new 10.1 install you're talking about as 10.0 used devfs and keeps it when you upgrade I haven't got my camera here at this box, but for comparison here's what I get when attaching my USB stick (which works exactly the same as my camera): Oct 28 10:52:54 triade1 su(pam_unix)[7057]: session opened for user root by triade(uid=501) Oct 28 10:53:04 triade1 kernel: usb 2-2.1: new full speed USB device using address 3 Oct 28 10:53:05 triade1 kernel: SCSI subsystem initialized Oct 28 10:53:05 triade1 kernel: Initializing USB Mass Storage driver... Oct 28 10:53:05 triade1 kernel: scsi0 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices Oct 28 10:53:05 triade1 kernel: Vendor: Generic Model: USB Flash Disk Rev: 2.00 Oct 28 10:53:05 triade1 kernel: Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Oct 28 10:53:05 triade1 kernel: usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage Oct 28 10:53:05 triade1 kernel: USB Mass Storage support registered. Oct 28 10:53:06 triade1 scsi.agent[7145]: disk at /devices/pci:00/:00:1f.4/usb2/2-2/2-2.1/2-2.1:1.0/host0/0:0:0:0 Oct 28 10:53:06 triade1 kernel: sda: Unit Not Ready, sense: Oct 28 10:53:06 triade1 kernel: Current : sense key Unit Attention Oct 28 10:53:06 triade1 kernel: Additional sense: Not ready to ready change, medium may have changed Oct 28 10:53:06 triade1 kernel: sda : READ CAPACITY failed. Oct 28 10:53:06 triade1 kernel: sda : status=1, message=00, host=0, driver=08 Oct 28 10:53:06 triade1 kernel: Current sd: sense key Unit Attention Oct 28 10:53:06 triade1 kernel: Additional sense: Not ready to ready change, medium may have changed Oct 28 10:53:06 triade1 kernel: sda: Write Protect is off Oct 28 10:53:06 triade1 kernel: sda: assuming drive cache: write through *** This has the effect of it not getting mounted or being able to mount it, I'll spare you the details:) pulling the stick and reinserting it again works fine with the following lines leading to success: Oct 28 10:57:50 triade1 kernel: usb 2-2.1: new full speed USB device using address 6 Oct 28 10:57:51 triade1 kernel: scsi1 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices Oct 28 10:57:51 triade1 kernel: Vendor: Generic Model: USB Flash Disk Rev: 2.00 Oct 28 10:57:51 triade1 kernel: Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Oct 28 10:57:52 triade1 kernel: SCSI device sda: 255488 512-byte hdwr sectors (131 MB) Oct 28 10:57:52 triade1 kernel: sda: Write Protect is off Oct 28 10:57:52 triade1 kernel: sda: assuming drive cache: write through Oct 28 10:57:52 triade1 kernel: /dev/scsi/host1/bus0/target0/lun0: p1 Oct 28 10:57:52 triade1 kernel: Attached scsi removable disk sda at scsi1, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 Oct 28 10:57:52 triade1 scsi.agent[7509]: disk at /devices/pci:00/:00:1f.4/usb2/2-2/2-2.1/2-2.1:1.0/host1/1:0:0:0 Oct 28 10:57:53 triade1 perl: drakupdate_fstab called with --auto --add /dev/sda1 * Frankly I always run tail -f /var/log/messages when expecting trouble with USB that way I know where to find the thing...plugging into another port might call it /dev/sb1 or whatever. I've got quite a few devices on USB like an external DVD/CD-burner, gps reciever, palm device, USB stick, camera, wireless card, mouse, printer and keyboard. All work but some do sometimes need re-initiation like the usb-stick above. Be sure to disable harddrake at boot time if these devices aren't permanently connected. If you don't change your system around a lot you don't need it anyway...just a waste of time at boot. -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] trojan?
someone sent me this: http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1682854,00.asp Maryse Delete it. Sorry, I should have been more explicite but it was early in the morning. The article is about a trojan aimed at Fedora. go to: http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1682854,00.asp Maryse Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Thursday 28 Oct 2004 09:54, Kaj Haulrich wrote: That doesn't stop me from wondering, however, why the good folks at Mandrake don't know the good, ole rule : if it ain't broke, don't fix it. In my experience, every new release fixes some bugs, introduces new features , but nevertheless breakes things that worked well before Kaj, this has to be reported as a bug. If they aren't told they can't do anything about it. As far as I can see, since no-one has reported otherwise, other cameras must be mounting correctly, so maybe the xD format is implicated. As you have done most investigation of this, will you start the report off (anthill, I presume) then point me at it and I'll back you up. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Thursday 28 October 2004 10:54, Kaj Haulrich wrote: However, I can retrieve my photos by booting into runlevel 3, mount the camera as /dev/sda1 and copy the files over. Then reboot to cool down the CPU. Circumstantial, I think. doing telint 1 should also resolve that, after which you can telinit 3 or 5 again. I.e. you shouldn't need to reboot. Installing 2.4 was bound to give you problems, especially in respect to certain modules 2.6 has. Going into mcc and disabling udev as well as enabling devfs at boot in the system services department is what might resolv something. BTW, doesn't the box quiten down when removing the camera? -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Thursday 28 Oct 2004 10:09, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: From what I've seen until now, I'd eliminate supermount as the culprit. I take this a new 10.1 install you're talking about as 10.0 used devfs and keeps it when you upgrade Yes, this was a clean 10.1 install. I reported the supermount, because I was half-asleep when I read, and thought that magic-whatever that replaces it was being suspected. I think you were actually talking devfs and udev, in which case I'm running udev, but Kaj has ruled that one out, so ignore my ramblings ;-) I haven't got my camera here at this box, but for comparison here's what I get when attaching my USB stick (which works exactly the same as my camera): I did check out harddrake, while correctly recognised the camera. I didn't check 'messages', but I will do that later today. I can run the camera on this box first to pick up any log entries that refer to it, then try it on the 10.1 box and compare output. I'll get back to you. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] trojan?
On Thursday 28 October 2004 11:12, M.Schild wrote: Sorry, I should have been more explicite but it was early in the morning. The article is about a trojan aimed at Fedora. go to: http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1682854,00.asp Maryse It's a silly scam but wil prolly show that even among fedora users there's a number of dorks that'll believe anything blindly. -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Thursday 28 October 2004 11:18, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: replies within On Thursday 28 October 2004 10:54, Kaj Haulrich wrote: However, I can retrieve my photos by booting into runlevel 3, mount the camera as /dev/sda1 and copy the files over. Then reboot to cool down the CPU. Circumstantial, I think. doing telint 1 should also resolve that, after which you can telinit 3 or 5 again. I.e. you shouldn't need to reboot. Telinit 3 works OK, but the CPU is running like mad, nevertheless. Going back into runlevel 5 doesn't stop it. Only a reboot. Installing 2.4 was bound to give you problems, especially in respect to certain modules 2.6 has. It certainly did. Going into mcc and disabling udev as well as enabling devfs at boot in the system services department is what might resolv something. well, I don't have devfs. According to some bugzilla reports, quite the opposite is needed. Warly posted something in his notes on 10.1, saying disable devfs, enable udev. Confusing. BTW, doesn't the box quiten down when removing the camera? Nope. Keeps running at 99% . And Anne, thanks for your support, I intend to report the bug in bugzilla later today, but I have to pin the problem down a little further in order to avoid too much verbosity. And, for the fun of it, I found another solution that doesn't burn my CPU : Boot into Knoppix, where the camera shows nicely as another harddisk, ftp the photos to my website and - being back in Mandrake, ftp them home again. Where there is a will, there is a way... Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Thursday 28 October 2004 11:52, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Thursday 28 October 2004 11:18, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: replies within On Thursday 28 October 2004 10:54, Kaj Haulrich wrote: However, I can retrieve my photos by booting into runlevel 3, mount the camera as /dev/sda1 and copy the files over. Then reboot to cool down the CPU. Circumstantial, I think. doing telint 1 should also resolve that, after which you can telinit 3 or 5 again. I.e. you shouldn't need to reboot. Telinit 3 works OK, but the CPU is running like mad, nevertheless. Going back into runlevel 5 doesn't stop it. Only a reboot. I meant going into single-user mode/failsafe alternatively you could boot into falisafe and try connecting the device in there. Installing 2.4 was bound to give you problems, especially in respect to certain modules 2.6 has. It certainly did. Going into mcc and disabling udev as well as enabling devfs at boot in the system services department is what might resolv something. well, I don't have devfs. According to some bugzilla reports, quite the opposite is needed. Warly posted something in his notes on 10.1, saying disable devfs, enable udev. Confusing. Yep, but it's not easy to pinpoint what's happeninghence my propositions BTW, doesn't the box quiten down when removing the camera? Nope. Keeps running at 99% . In telinit 1 too? BTW, what does top say as to what's hogging the cpu? Try killing the culprit. Boot into Knoppix, where the camera shows nicely as another harddisk, ftp the photos to my website and - being back in Mandrake, ftp them home again. Where there is a will, there is a way... I always boot into slax or slackware.it's a lot faster at boot time;) Always carry a miniCD with Slax on it with me..there's even smaller which fit on a credit card CD (50Mb) like the FreeSoftwareFoundation membership cardhint, hint, nudge, nudge! ;) Alas those creditcardCD's always break in my wallet on the long run:( -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Thursday 28 October 2004 12:15, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Thursday 28 October 2004 11:52, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Thursday 28 October 2004 11:18, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: replies within On Thursday 28 October 2004 10:54, Kaj Haulrich wrote: However, I can retrieve my photos by booting into runlevel 3, mount the camera as /dev/sda1 and copy the files over. Then reboot to cool down the CPU. Circumstantial, I think. doing telint 1 should also resolve that, after which you can telinit 3 or 5 again. I.e. you shouldn't need to reboot. Telinit 3 works OK, but the CPU is running like mad, nevertheless. Going back into runlevel 5 doesn't stop it. Only a reboot. I meant going into single-user mode/failsafe alternatively you could boot into falisafe and try connecting the device in there. Installing 2.4 was bound to give you problems, especially in respect to certain modules 2.6 has. It certainly did. Going into mcc and disabling udev as well as enabling devfs at boot in the system services department is what might resolv something. well, I don't have devfs. According to some bugzilla reports, quite the opposite is needed. Warly posted something in his notes on 10.1, saying disable devfs, enable udev. Confusing. Yep, but it's not easy to pinpoint what's happeninghence my propositions BTW, doesn't the box quiten down when removing the camera? Nope. Keeps running at 99% . In telinit 1 too? BTW, what does top say as to what's hogging the cpu? Try killing the culprit. Boot into Knoppix, where the camera shows nicely as another harddisk, ftp the photos to my website and - being back in Mandrake, ftp them home again. Where there is a will, there is a way... I always boot into slax or slackware.it's a lot faster at boot time;) Always carry a miniCD with Slax on it with me..there's even smaller which fit on a credit card CD (50Mb) like the FreeSoftwareFoundation membership cardhint, hint, nudge, nudge! ;) Alas those creditcardCD's always break in my wallet on the long run:( Booting into failsafe does nothing. The system can't see it. Trying a manual mount as sda0, sda1 etc.. fails, as there is no entry in fstab. And to Anne : I have committed a report to bugzilla (no. 12205), as there is no entry for 10.1 in Anthill.. Plenty of other bugs concerning cameras, but no mention of the runaway process. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Thu, 28 Oct 2004, Kaj Haulrich wrote: well, I don't have devfs. According to some bugzilla reports, quite the opposite is needed. Warly posted something in his notes on 10.1, saying disable devfs, enable udev. Confusing. BTW, doesn't the box quiten down when removing the camera? Nope. Keeps running at 99% . And Anne, thanks for your support, I intend to report the bug in bugzilla later today, but I have to pin the problem down a little further in order to avoid too much verbosity. And, for the fun of it, I found another solution that doesn't burn my CPU : Boot into Knoppix, where the camera shows nicely as another harddisk, ftp the photos to my website and - being back in Mandrake, ftp them home again. Where there is a will, there is a way... Still sounds to me like hotplug and friends. Before I told you how to disable hotplug with chkconfig, but I didn't mention stopping the service (service hotplug stop). It's quite rare in my experience that the kernel itself would be thrashing the machine like that. If it is, you'd see dmesg flooded with messages, but more often you'd see an oops or panic. I'd also doubt udev as a major factor. The normal problem with udev is the device not showing up at all in /dev. I tried several external devices yesterday, as a quick test. My Canon camera, which the kernel saw but didn't recognize as a storage device, a usb CF reader, a USB SD reader, and an external USB hard-drive. In none of the cases, did the kernel give any indication it was aware of the actual media type, aside from the identifier string of the reader device, that's pretty much the reader's job the deal with the media. -- Stew Benedict Mandrakesoft --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Thursday 28 October 2004 11:12, Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 28 Oct 2004 09:54, Kaj Haulrich wrote: That doesn't stop me from wondering, however, why the good folks at Mandrake don't know the good, ole rule : if it ain't broke, don't fix it. In my experience, every new release fixes some bugs, introduces new features , but nevertheless breakes things that worked well before Kaj, this has to be reported as a bug. If they aren't told they can't do anything about it. As far as I can see, since no-one has reported otherwise, other cameras must be mounting correctly, so maybe the xD format is implicated. As you have done most investigation of this, will you start the report off (anthill, I presume) then point me at it and I'll back you up. Anne Anne, I have reported the bug (12205), and you know what : The kde-mandrake team replied that it is a dupe of another, well known and fixed bug in kdebase. I wonder if it is true, because it affects Gnome as well - on my system, that is. The bug is here : http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12023 Now I wonder if we'll have to wait until 10.2 to get it fixed. I suppose installing the new kdebase from cooker will raise havoc on a 10.1 system. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Why is Open Office Writer so slow?
On Thursday 28 October 2004 02:22 am, Graham Watkins wrote: Well, why? In the past I've mostly used Star Office 5.2 which while it doesn't go at the speed of light, leaves Open Office 1.1 standing. It's just taken me about 15 minutes to open a file, make a small alteration and print a single page with about 3 lines of text and a box on it. Oh, and I can't figure out how to change the default printer settings and right now life's too short to try. It's just as well I've got Star Office because if all I had to use was OO, I think I'd be forced to spend a lot more time in Windows. Come to think of it, I might get faster results using Word with Wine. Is everyone else here having the same experience? How do you cope? I'm using it with Mandrake 9.2 and KDE 3.1. on a Pentium III for all the difference it makes. I have no plans to upgrade the software until I get a faster computer. Cheers What you are experiencing is not normal and sounds like a configuration issue of some kind. Can you make another user on your box and try to start it there? Are you using Mandrake packages of OO.o or the binary installer provided by OO.o? -- /g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Thursday 28 October 2004 15:02, Stew Benedict wrote: snip Still sounds to me like hotplug and friends. Before I told you how to disable hotplug with chkconfig, but I didn't mention stopping the service (service hotplug stop). It's quite rare in my experience that the kernel itself would be thrashing the machine like that. If it is, you'd see dmesg flooded with messages, but more often you'd see an oops or panic. I'd also doubt udev as a major factor. The normal problem with udev is the device not showing up at all in /dev. I tried several external devices yesterday, as a quick test. My Canon camera, which the kernel saw but didn't recognize as a storage device, a usb CF reader, a USB SD reader, and an external USB hard-drive. In none of the cases, did the kernel give any indication it was aware of the actual media type, aside from the identifier string of the reader device, that's pretty much the reader's job the deal with the media. /snip Well Stew, stopping hotplug doesn't make any difference. But maybe the solution is closing in, please see my last post. Thanks Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Thursday 28 October 2004 15:09, Kaj Haulrich wrote: The kde-mandrake team replied that it is a dupe of another, well known and fixed bug in kdebase. I wonder if it is true, because it affects Gnome as well - on my system, that is. The bug is here : http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12023 Took a look at that and it certainly looks partially the same. If you indeed booted into level 3 and had the same problem it would be surprising indeed if KDE was the culprit, though. Running top could've enlightened that. So what happened? Boot into init 3 and check again.that way you can file a bug report (if it is a bug) that won't get KDE related. To install-testrun the base package do urpmi --test kde-base.123mdk.rpm (or whatever the packages name is) and see if it gives dependancy-hell or not:) -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Thursday 28 October 2004 02:42 am, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Thursday 28 October 2004 00:21, Kaj Haulrich wrote: Well H.J. my palm are WET. I know the feeling of messing around in /boot and lilo ! Right now I installed the 2.6.8.1-10 kernel, with no evident errors. But the camera still behaves like in the -12 kernel. So no go here. Next, I'll try to install the 2.4 kernel. Hopefully that'll change things to the better. Kaj Haulrich. Are you running devfs or udev? It should show at bootime if you're running devfs as udev will then be disabled. You can check anytime... tom # service udev status udev is running [ OK ] you can check for devfsd with 'service devfsd status' which will return a usage: warning. This means devfs is not being used. To be on the safe side, you can put 'devfs=nomount' in your bootloader (lilo's append line). -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Thursday 28 October 2004 05:15 am, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: ..there's even smaller which fit on a credit card CD (50Mb) like the FreeSoftwareFoundation membership cardhint, hint, nudge, nudge! ;) Had one for years ;) BTW, did you get the (free to members) book the Free Software Foundation sent out recently, Free Culture? Interesting reading an I'm only about 10% into the book. For those that don't know what we're talking about, visit http://www.gnu.org/ and please consider becoming a Associate Member. Your MandrakeLinux is Linux (the kernel), but the rest of it (99%) is GNU software. They need your support just as much as the Mandrake Club does. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Thursday 28 October 2004 16:36, Tom Brinkman wrote: Had one for years ;) BTW, did you get the (free to members) book the Free Software Foundation sent out recently, Free Culture? Interesting reading an I'm only about 10% into the book. I have and have gotten as far as you. Just need one nice quiet evening to get into it again.those are sparse:) For those that don't know what we're talking about, visit http://www.gnu.org/ and please consider becoming a Associate Member. Your MandrakeLinux is Linux (the kernel), but the rest of it (99%) is GNU software. They need your support just as much as the Mandrake Club does. Heheh;) I've been in evangelist mode a few times too..reading the book makes one realize how important these issues realy are. -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Display Problem
I'm a newbie to Mandrake. I'm in the process of reinstalling 10.0 from the PowerPack. The first time I installed 10.0 (in firewall mode, the latter being the anticipated future use along with Nessus workstation) the background of the display was this gaudy red and greenish stripe display. The font was also very hard to read. Did I miss something or did the installation choose the incorrect monitor/video card type? I'm fairly familiar with RH and haven't had similar problems with it. This system is running on a Belkin OmniView Pro KVM switch. richlich Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Monitor Problem Resolved
It was the default resolution set by the installation. I backed down to 1024x768 and now all is well. richlich Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Internet Configuration
I'm trying to configure my Internet connection. I open the MandrakeLinux control center and click on Network Internet, then Internet Access. I get a warning that there isn't any Internet connection configured and to run Internet access in the control center. When I click on ok, the Internet Access configuration window goes away! How can I configure my Internet access? Rich Lichvar Director, Operations Knowledge Resource Center, Inc. 6901 Rockledge Drive Sixth Floor Bethesda, MD 20817 Cell: 571.221.3430 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On October 28, 2004 02:54, Kaj Haulrich wrote: ... That doesn't stop me from wondering, however, why the good folks at Mandrake don't know the good, ole rule : if it ain't broke, don't fix it. In my experience, every new release fixes some bugs, introduces new features , but nevertheless breakes things that worked well before Cheers Kaj Haulrich. Because the rule for Linux is if it ain't broke, you're not trying hard enough :^) -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Wednesday 27 Oct 2004 20:51, Tom Brinkman wrote: IIRC the only anomaly you reported Anne was cpufreq errors in boot logs. I meant to respond, sorry. I had the same. Cpufreq is used for laptops to control power usage and heat thru manipulating processor speed. On a desktop, just 'urpme cpufreq' I've found a bunch of reports while scouring logs. Many may be totally unimportant, but I'll post them later. One thing at a time ;-) As to the Digital camera kills MDK 10.1 deal, I don't have a USB camera (mine's serial), but I suspect the problem might be solved by tryin a different kernel. I believe Stew said much the same. I know reverting to 2.6.8.1-10 from -12mdk solved boot up problems checking (Reiser) FS's after I added an SATA drive into a mix of IDE drives a few weeks ago. With 2.6.8.1-12 the system went crazy, but all is well with -10mdk. I've got a hunch the 'camera' problem is similar. Just a suspicion tho I've run a bunch of tests against 2.6.8.1-10 - it's no better than -12. I'll pick up another message in this thread as the best place to go through all I've done. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Why is Open Office Writer so slow?
Stephen Kühn wrote: On Thu, 2004-10-28 at 16:22, Graham Watkins wrote: Well, why? In the past I've mostly used Star Office 5.2 which while it doesn't go at the speed of light, leaves Open Office 1.1 standing. It's just taken me about 15 minutes to open a file, make a small alteration and print a single page with about 3 lines of text and a box on it. (snipped) Is everyone else here having the same experience? How do you cope? (snipped again) Abiword. I can see your point but the compatibility with Word is likely to keep me looking at OO, SO or . Word ;-) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Why is Open Office Writer so slow?
Alexander Ruoff wrote:
Am Do, den 28.10.2004 schrieb Graham Watkins um 8:22:
Well, why?
In the past I've mostly used Star Office 5.2 which while it doesn't go
at the speed of light, leaves Open Office 1.1 standing.
(snipped)
Is everyone else here having the same experience?
How do you cope?
(snipped again)
How much memory do you have? I used until recently a PIII 450 with 128
MB, MDK 10.0 in the office and OO was slow but it didn't need 15 Minutes
to open a document.
Now with a Celeron D and 512 MB OO is fast and I see no difference with
my Pentium M and 512 MB. Thus I assume that it's either due to low
memory or there is a problem with your OO installation. Have you tried
to reinstall OO yet?
Alex
PS: Even my really old K6 200 with 112 MB doesn't need 15 mins to open a
file with OO, I just tested it... ('bout 30 secs for 10,7 kb)
I'm running 224Mb ram which I would have thougbt was enough. Although
vid memory is probably a bit light at 16Mb
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Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Thursday 28 Oct 2004 10:09, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Thursday 28 October 2004 10:38, Anne Wilson wrote: I haven't got around to changing to udev yet, so it may not be a factor at all. I have 2.6.1-12 with supermount, and I'm still seeing the problem. When kaj ran tail -f /var/log/messages whilst plugging in the camera there were some strange entries on sda's size and sort. What does your's say? Nothing unexpected at all. More on that below - I've run a bunch of tests as follows: Running kernel 2.6.8.1-10 - attempted to access camera through kdesu konqueror - can see all files - but top shows kdeinit at 99.5% Attempts to kill kdeinit not successful - I can never get the syntax right killall -9 kdeinit takes me back to login screen - login - kdeinit still 98.9% Reboot Top - kdeinit not in first 20+ lines add camera - still not there Open konqueror - kdeinit reaches 23%, then disappears from list. Cannot browse camera in konqueror Cannot ls /mnt/removable Start MCC - check options, then mount with MCC - kdeinit 98.6% Cannot launch konqueror kdeinit drops back to 55% kdesu konqueror launches - kdeinit 98.9% - but can't browse camera Close konqueror - kdeinit 98.6% cannot ls /mnt/removable kdeinit 95.9% shooting up to 99.2% - konsole is the only kde app open at that time. tail /var/log/messages - nothing at all unexpected. No problems apparent. Reboot Kernel 2.6.8.1-12 Booted as linux 3 Can list files on camera Top - kdeinit not on screen Reboot Switch on camera during kde launch - forgot to wait - kdeinit 99.2% without attempting to browse. Reboot Boot to IceWM session Can ls all files Can copy a file and paste it to /home/david I haven't tried Gnome. I gather that Kaj found the same problem there. If that had not been so I would have felt that it was definitely kde-related. Another thing that puzzles me, is that the first time, when I accessed as root, I could see all the files in konqueror. I did not manage that again. Is there a significance in that on that occasion I accessed as root first - before trying to access as user? I don't know whether any of this helps Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] kmail seizure
this morning kmail would not download any messages after i d/l my mail using tbird ,kmail went back to working btw there were 175 messages in the in box I would use tbird exclusevily but I can't get it to sort the incoming mail into folders -- Windows: Where do you want to go today? MacOS: Where do you want to be tomorrow? Linux: Are you coming or what? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Thursday 28 October 2004 19:57, Anne Wilson wrote: I haven't tried Gnome. I gather that Kaj found the same problem there. If that had not been so I would have felt that it was definitely kde-related. Another thing that puzzles me, is that the first time, when I accessed as root, I could see all the files in konqueror. I did not manage that again. Is there a significance in that on that occasion I accessed as root first - before trying to access as user? I don't know whether any of this helps Anne This looks like the KDE bug that Kaj was pointed to...the gnome part could be puzzling except: if calling a KDE app. like konq or kedit. I had gathered he had the same experiences on runlevel 3 but I'm not sure anymore. Here's the bug again: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12023 -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] HP920C hangs M10.1CE during startup if plugged in drakboot failing to work properly
Hello! I am afraid I cannot reccomend anyone Mandrake 10.1 Community Edition - until the USB problems are solved. In my case, I tried to install on my computer Mandrake 10.1 CE. In each case (twice fresh install, once update from 10.0 Official), there were two major problems: 1) HP920C hangs M10.1CE during startup if plugged in - I had to unplug it each time before startup or reboor, because otherwise it would hang up during loading kernel module for USB printer... 2) drakboot is failing to work properly when I use floppy as boot medium - it shows that nothing is available and /dev/hda as a boot medium, despite the fact that there is a proper /etc/lilo.conf in its place! I have to wait for patches to fix it - otherwise the system is rather unusable... Frustrated and desperate, Wojciech Podgrni PS. The fatal kernel is 2.6.8.1-10mdk, all software is default from the CE CDs, the hardware is: - ASUS A7V600-X mainboard (with 100 MB ethernet sound chip on board) - AMD Athlon 2400+ MHz XP - 512 MB memory (Hylix) - WinFast A360 TDH (GeForce FX 5700) - Zoltrix Aquila (HSF) winmodem - KWorld TV card - 2 Seagate IDE hard drives (55GB 112 GB) - LG combo CD burner - Sagem 800 ADSL USB modem - HP920C printer - Mustek ScanExpresss 1200 USB Plus (currently not working under Linux) PS2. There are more issues with 10.1 CE (like not recognising TV card properly), but this is critical. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Thursday 28 Oct 2004 19:05, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: This looks like the KDE bug that Kaj was pointed to...the gnome part could be puzzling except: if calling a KDE app. like konq or kedit. I had gathered he had the same experiences on runlevel 3 but I'm not sure anymore. Here's the bug again: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12023 It could be - but my gut reaction is that it's not. Now we have to try to find that kdebase update that is supposed to cure it. I've been so busy this week that I haven't had time to set up any new sources, and BitTorrent says that I need another 100 hours to download the powerpack :-( - this after I have tried to strangle the upload to 10. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Why is Open Office Writer so slow?
Greg Meyer wrote: On Thursday 28 October 2004 02:22 am, Graham Watkins wrote: Well, why? In the past I've mostly used Star Office 5.2 which while it doesn't go at the speed of light, leaves Open Office 1.1 standing. (Snipped) Is everyone else here having the same experience? How do you cope? (Snipped again) What you are experiencing is not normal and sounds like a configuration issue of some kind. Can you make another user on your box and try to start it there? Are you using Mandrake packages of OO.o or the binary installer provided by OO.o? Just tried running under root (yes, I know I shouldn't) and it was much faster. Then tried starting it as me using xfce4 which is less of a memory hog - such a slow opening I wondered for a while if it had crashed. Looks like you may have something with the configuration problem idea. I'm using mandrake binaries which came with the original installation. Cheers, Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Always ending up IceWM
Hi people, I installed MDK 10.1 to my HP Vectra Pentium 133 MH. 64 RAM, 1.2 Gig Box. Problem is i am not able to see any program except IceWM and some useles 3-4 programs what ever i choose i end up the same programs. I used to instlaled 9.2 it was working fine with KDE and GNOME now even it doesn't work with 10.1 , even i install 9.2 again , now it goes to IceWM again. Both 9.2 and 10.1 end up with the IceWM. I manually install additional packages thru Mandrake Center but non of the programs seen from IceWm or starts from comand line. Anyone have any clue, suggestions Otherwise i have to throw away the box. It is just filling my very limited space. thx emin -- ___ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Thursday 28 October 2004 19:57, Anne Wilson wrote: I haven't tried Gnome. I gather that Kaj found the same problem there. If that had not been so I would have felt that it was definitely kde-related. Another thing that puzzles me, is that the first time, when I accessed as root, I could see all the files in konqueror. I did not manage that again. Is there a significance in that on that occasion I accessed as root first - before trying to access as user? I don't know whether any of this helps Anne This looks like the KDE bug that Kaj was pointed to...the gnome part could be puzzling except: if calling a KDE app. like konq or kedit. I had gathered he had the same experiences on runlevel 3 but I'm not sure anymore. Here's the bug again: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12023 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Can we please get off of this. It has been going on for days now. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] HP920C hangs M10.1CE during startup if plugged in drakboot failing to work properly
Hello again! Where should I report these bugs? Nowhere in Mandrake AntHill or Mandrake Cooker Bugzilla kernel-2.6.8.1-10mdk can be found (or Mandrakelinux 10.1 CE). Wojciech Podgrni smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Thursday 28 Oct 2004 19:25, Roy Babin wrote: Can we please get off of this. It has been going on for days now. It may not be important to you, but it is to us. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Configuration
And I forgot to point out your reply-to, which causes problems with list traffic. You don't need it - to understand more, please read http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MandrakeMailingListEtiquette Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
Praedor has raised a similar thread in Expert, and Tim Sawchuck pointed to this cooker thread: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cookerm=109851321432683w=2 This bit may clear up the Gnome anomaly: quote This is a known bug. You can kill the kded and then restart it with kdeinit kded which will give access to the services menu but alas there's not much you can do there. This bug was introduced by a cooker update I am hoping that it is an install thing and when a fresh install is done 10.1 final it will be sorted out. If you temporarily use Gnome there is no problem. Be aware that if you start kde and then go into Gnome the kded process will have already have been started. You must go directly to Gnome from the dm. /quote The bug, if it is the same one as we have seen, has been fixed, and is coming. quote It will be in updates as soon as 10.1 OE is out. /quote The only thing is, having read the thread, I'm still not absolutely sure that it's the same bug. We'll have to see whether this 'fix' fixes it. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] HP920C hangs M10.1CE during startup if plugged in drakboot failing to work properly
On Thursday 28 Oct 2004 19:33, Wojciech Podgórni wrote: Hello again! Where should I report these bugs? Nowhere in Mandrake AntHill or Mandrake Cooker Bugzilla kernel-2.6.8.1-10mdk can be found (or Mandrakelinux 10.1 CE). Wojciech Podgórni I think this is the same problem as we are having with cameras - you'll have seen the long thread. The good news is that a fix has been prepared and will be available in updates in a few days' time. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Why is Open Office Writer so slow?
On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 19:21:40 +0100 Graham Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greg Meyer wrote: snip, snip, snip Just tried running under root (yes, I know I shouldn't) and it was much faster. Then tried starting it as me using xfce4 which is less of a memory hog - such a slow opening I wondered for a while if it had crashed. Looks like you may have something with the configuration problem idea. I'm using mandrake binaries which came with the original installation. Cheers, Maybe your pspfontcache-file has grown too big. Google for openoffice slow pspfontcache Björn Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] HP920C hangs M10.1CE during startup if plugged in drakboot failing to work properly
Uytkownik Anne Wilson napisa: On Thursday 28 Oct 2004 19:33, Wojciech Podgrni wrote: Hello again! Where should I report these bugs? Nowhere in Mandrake AntHill or Mandrake Cooker Bugzilla kernel-2.6.8.1-10mdk can be found (or Mandrakelinux 10.1 CE). Wojciech Podgrni I think this is the same problem as we are having with cameras - you'll have seen the long thread. The good news is that a fix has been prepared and will be available in updates in a few days' time. Anne Thank you for your reply, Anne! Is the fix going to be a part of the Official ISOs? When the updates will be available via MandrakeUpdate? And what about drakboot problem? Is there a fix for the drakboot emptyness? And the most important question: where can I complain about the bugs in CE (so they are actually fixed)? Thank you again for the reply. Wojciech Podgrni smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [newbie] Why is Open Office Writer so slow?
On Thursday 28 October 2004 03:41 pm, Björn Olsson wrote: On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 19:21:40 +0100 Graham Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greg Meyer wrote: snip, snip, snip Never say that to a guy :-D Just tried running under root (yes, I know I shouldn't) and it was much faster. Then tried starting it as me using xfce4 which is less of a memory hog - such a slow opening I wondered for a while if it had crashed. Looks like you may have something with the configuration problem idea. I'm using mandrake binaries which came with the original installation. Cheers, Maybe your pspfontcache-file has grown too big. Google for openoffice slow pspfontcache You could also try removing or renaming your ~/.openoffice directory and let it be recreated. -- /g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] HP920C hangs M10.1CE during startup if plugged in drakboot failing to work properly
On Thursday 28 Oct 2004 20:52, Wojciech Podgrni wrote: Thank you for your reply, Anne! Is the fix going to be a part of the Official ISOs? I think it was discovered too late to be in the ISO When the updates will be available via MandrakeUpdate? When 10.1Official is open to the public, in less than a week, the new updates will all be made available. And what about drakboot problem? Is there a fix for the drakboot emptyness? Sorry, I don't know anything about that. You could try searching Marc's site for the archives. Follow the link in my sig to get our Community TWiki, then use the search button for 'archives'. You'll get links to several sites, but most people find Marc's the best. And the most important question: where can I complain about the bugs in CE (so they are actually fixed)? Try http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/ You should also try to search the bug reports there before making a new one. Thank you again for the reply. No problem Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] For all with usb problems
From the Expert list: quote 10.1 official updates are slated to be released Nov 1. I see a kdebase 133.1.101mdk in that tree (not publically accessible). /quote HTH Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] For all with usb problems
On Thursday 28 October 2004 22:19, Anne Wilson wrote: From the Expert list: quote 10.1 official updates are slated to be released Nov 1. I see a kdebase 133.1.101mdk in that tree (not publically accessible). /quote HTH Anne You saved my day, Anne. I just changed my /etc/mandrakelinux-release to Official, went to the easy-urpmi site and changed all my sources to 10.1 OE. Then updated everything ( not that there was many packages,though ) so now I'm on 10.1 official, I suppose. But the USB problem remains, nevertheless. Looking forward to the upgrades. By now I must be qualified as a Microsoft Certified Engineer, what with the about 40 reboots I made today... Cheers, all. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] For all with usb problems
On Thursday 28 Oct 2004 21:48, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Thursday 28 October 2004 22:19, Anne Wilson wrote: From the Expert list: quote 10.1 official updates are slated to be released Nov 1. I see a kdebase 133.1.101mdk in that tree (not publically accessible). /quote HTH Anne You saved my day, Anne. I just changed my /etc/mandrakelinux-release to Official, went to the easy-urpmi site and changed all my sources to 10.1 OE. Then updated everything ( not that there was many packages,though ) so now I'm on 10.1 official, I suppose. But the USB problem remains, nevertheless. Looking forward to the upgrades. Yes - Nov. 1st, all being well. By now I must be qualified as a Microsoft Certified Engineer, what with the about 40 reboots I made today... LOL Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] For all with usb problems
Uytkownik Anne Wilson napisa: From the Expert list: quote 10.1 official updates are slated to be released Nov 1. I see a kdebase 133.1.101mdk in that tree (not publically accessible). /quote HTH Anne So I have to wait till Monday... Thank you, Anne. Wojciech Podgrni smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [newbie] For all with usb problems
On Thu, 28 Oct 2004, Anne Wilson wrote: From the Expert list: quote 10.1 official updates are slated to be released Nov 1. I see a kdebase 133.1.101mdk in that tree (not publically accessible). /quote But... I see people saying they have problems even at runlevel 3 and with different window managers, so I can't really imagine kdebase has much to with it. -- Stew Benedict Mandrakesoft --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Broke Gnome.
Hi All, I have just updated 10.1(Ce) from the newly updated Tree.Now Gnome does not appear in the Log On options.This not a major problem,but any program which needs the Gnome Libs now do not run. How do I go about sorting this problem?Also if Iupdate to Gnome 2.7,will make an even bigger mess? Drew Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] For all with usb problems
On Thursday 28 October 2004 22:48, Stew Benedict wrote: But... I see people saying they have problems even at runlevel 3 and with different window managers, so I can't really imagine kdebase has much to with it. So did I, I thought...so let's get this straight. Did anybody telinit into level 3 or boot into into init 3 and test this behaviour?? I can't I've no real probs (yet) -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Configuration
On Thursday 28 October 2004 17:26, Rich Lichvar wrote: I'm trying to configure my Internet connection. I open the MandrakeLinux control center and click on Network Internet, then Internet Access. I get a warning that there isn't any Internet connection configured and to run Internet access in the control center. When I click on ok, the Internet Access configuration window goes away! How can I configure my Internet access? Add a connection first, or select Manage Connections to configure an existing one. Normally the installer will have autodetected your connections, but some connections such as wireless connections may need extra configuration. If you are using 802.11g wireless, or an ADSL USB modem you may need to install some proprietary firmware first. In that case come back and give us the details of your hardware, and the Mandrake revision you are using. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] For all with usb problems
On Thursday 28 October 2004 22:48, Stew Benedict wrote: On Thu, 28 Oct 2004, Anne Wilson wrote: From the Expert list: quote 10.1 official updates are slated to be released Nov 1. I see a kdebase 133.1.101mdk in that tree (not publically accessible). /quote But... I see people saying they have problems even at runlevel 3 and with different window managers, so I can't really imagine kdebase has much to with it. That remains to be seen, Stew. Maybe I blundered somewhere, because I only did a telinit 3 and a logout/in Gnome, where the problem persisted. Earlier today I tried a reboot (among plenty) into runlevel 3, but that option seems to have been borked along the way. At the bootsplash, hitting esc and then : linux 3 results in a kernel panic. That no mystery to me, what with all those kernels I tried, removed and re-installed , each time editing lilo.conf. Of course I could edit inittab, but, honestly, I'm too tired now and after all, I have a job to attend to. Let us all pray for a happy Nov. 1.st. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Why is Open Office Writer so slow?
On Fri, 2004-10-29 at 03:45, Graham Watkins wrote: Abiword. I can see your point but the compatibility with Word is likely to keep me looking at OO, SO or . Word ;-) What I do - when I have to use OO, is to open up one instance of it, and then minimise it - then when I have to open a document or OOW again, it's heaps faster - but then again, I have tweaked and tuned my machine and HD settings, and have 892mb of RAM and have updated all the packages religiously... -- stephen kuhn mobile: 0410-728-389 illawarra and regional new south wales --- GNU/Linux/OpenSource Solutions and Alternatives 100% Microsoft Free and no viruses Registered Linux User # 267497 Windows: Where do you want to go today? MacOS: Where do you want to be tomorrow? Linux: Are you coming or what? --- I often quote myself; it adds spice to my conversation. -- G. B. Shaw Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Why is Open Office Writer so slow?
On Fri, 2004-10-29 at 04:21, Graham Watkins wrote: Just tried running under root (yes, I know I shouldn't) and it was much faster. Then tried starting it as me using xfce4 which is less of a memory hog - such a slow opening I wondered for a while if it had crashed. Looks like you may have something with the configuration problem idea. I'm using mandrake binaries which came with the original installation. Cheers, Create a new user. Login as that new user. Fire up OO and see if that still takes an eternity to start. If it doesn't, then something is strange about YOUR account/profile/home/settings -- stephen kuhn mobile: 0410-728-389 illawarra and regional new south wales --- GNU/Linux/OpenSource Solutions and Alternatives 100% Microsoft Free and no viruses Registered Linux User # 267497 Windows: Where do you want to go today? MacOS: Where do you want to be tomorrow? Linux: Are you coming or what? --- I try to keep an open mind, but not so open that my brains fall out. -- Judge Harold T. Stone Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Broke Gnome.
On Fri, 2004-10-29 at 07:18, Drew Martin wrote: Hi All, I have just updated 10.1(Ce) from the newly updated Tree.Now Gnome does not appear in the Log On options.This not a major problem,but any program which needs the Gnome Libs now do not run. How do I go about sorting this problem?Also if Iupdate to Gnome 2.7,will make an even bigger mess? Drew Updating broke Gnome, hmm? Strange that. Ok - here's what I would do first: 1.) Login as root, go into YOUR /home/yournamehere directory and rename any of the .gnome, .gnome2, .gnome-private (and etc) directories to something else - just in case there is data there that you need 2.) Login as you again - see if Gnome rebuilding it's directories and configurations resolves the issue 3.) If Gnome is not showing up in your XDM, try changing runlevel from 5 to 3 and install Xtart - run it once you've rebooted - IT should pick up Gnome as a desktop/window manager 4.) If Gnome is hosed beyond all that, then I cannot tell you anything good, because from experience, once Gnome is borked, it's borked very well and generally is such a nightmare to repair that it pays generally to just reinstall. Not a joke there. -- stephen kuhn mobile: 0410-728-389 illawarra and regional new south wales --- GNU/Linux/OpenSource Solutions and Alternatives 100% Microsoft Free and no viruses Registered Linux User # 267497 Windows: Where do you want to go today? MacOS: Where do you want to be tomorrow? Linux: Are you coming or what? --- You never hesitate to tackle the most difficult problems. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] USB printer woes part 2 (was Re: For all with usb problems)
Uytkownik Stew Benedict napisa: On Thu, 28 Oct 2004, Anne Wilson wrote: From the Expert list: quote 10.1 official updates are slated to be released Nov 1. I see a kdebase 133.1.101mdk in that tree (not publically accessible). /quote But... I see people saying they have problems even at runlevel 3 and with different window managers, so I can't really imagine kdebase has much to with it. Unfortunately that seems to be the case: System hangs at startup during loading kernel module for USB printer (HP920C) Mandrake 10.1 CE hangs at startup (init level 3 or 5) if I have my USB printer plugged in. What's strange is that you can later plug in the printer, and the printer works. To reproduce this bug: 1) Install/upgrade to Mandrake 10.1 CE 2) Start the system (with or without GUI) 3) The system hangs at loading kernel module for USB printer I think it is udev, so I'll report it as such to Cooker Bugzilla. Disappointed, Wojciech Podgrni smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
[newbie] First time posting for advice.
Hi, I'm a very new newbie and running Mandrake 10.0 on my laptop sharing drive with XP. I'm now only using xp for Quickbooks. I love Mandrake I downloaded Fluxbox and unpacked it with tar then configure, make and make install.. Everything went well. On reboot, to see if it had installed, it didn't come up but for a second or two I could see different icons in the task bar then up came the usual ones. I am using KDE. Can you please advise me where I went wrong? Simple language please till I learn more. Regards Geoff Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Why is Open Office Writer so slow?
On Thursday 28 October 2004 14:21, Graham Watkins wrote: Greg Meyer wrote: On Thursday 28 October 2004 02:22 am, Graham Watkins wrote: Well, why? In the past I've mostly used Star Office 5.2 which while it doesn't go at the speed of light, leaves Open Office 1.1 standing. (Snipped) Is everyone else here having the same experience? How do you cope? (Snipped again) What you are experiencing is not normal and sounds like a configuration issue of some kind. Can you make another user on your box and try to start it there? Are you using Mandrake packages of OO.o or the binary installer provided by OO.o? Just tried running under root (yes, I know I shouldn't) and it was much faster. Then tried starting it as me using xfce4 which is less of a memory hog - such a slow opening I wondered for a while if it had crashed. Looks like you may have something with the configuration problem idea. I'm using mandrake binaries which came with the original installation. Cheers, what does your host file, and resolve.conf say. -- linux counter #167806 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] First time posting for advice.
On Thursday 28 October 2004 23:43, geoff wrote: Hi, I'm a very new newbie and running Mandrake 10.0 on my laptop sharing drive with XP. I'm now only using xp for Quickbooks. I love Mandrake I downloaded Fluxbox and unpacked it with tar then configure, make and make install.. Everything went well. On reboot, to see if it had installed, it didn't come up but for a second or two I could see different icons in the task bar then up came the usual ones. I am using KDE. Can you please advise me where I went wrong? Simple language please till I learn more. Regards Geoff The easy way for a newbie to install applications like fluxbox is as a binary RPM package. Fluxbox is in the contrib folder on any Mandrake mirror. Go here http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/ and follow the online instructions to add online sources for 'contrib', 'plf', and 'updates' (if you have not already defined an update source) You can then add fluxbox from your software install GUI, or from a root terminal with 'urpmi fluxbox' Installing the binary RPM package will work better than compiling it yourself because the RPM package is configured to use the Mandrake Menu structure so that the menus appear automatically in fluxbox, just like in KDE. The version you compiled will require menus to be constructed by hand. The RPM package will also automatically put an entry into the list of available Window Managers in your login manager. You can also get a more recent version of fluxbox from Charles Edwards' download site at http://www.eslrahc.com/ Follow the instructions to add it as an online urpmi source. Your system will automatically select the most recent version of fluxbox to install. Once you have tried out fluxbox, then give Enlightenment, xfce, IceWM, and Blackbox a go. They are all available as RPM Mandrake packages. (Yes Joe I know pekwm is better, but its not so easy to install) derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] First time posting for advice.
On Friday 29 October 2004 00:43, geoff wrote: Hi, I'm a very new newbie and running Mandrake 10.0 on my laptop sharing drive with XP. I'm now only using xp for Quickbooks. I love Mandrake I downloaded Fluxbox and unpacked it with tar then configure, make and make install.. Everything went well. On reboot, to see if it had installed, it didn't come up but for a second or two I could see different icons in the task bar then up came the usual ones. I am using KDE. Can you please advise me where I went wrong? Simple language please till I learn more. Regards Geoff Simple answer: As a newby stick to Mandrake .rpm's or expect to be rolling up sleeves and getting hands dirty.! -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Thursday 28 October 2004 11:42 am, Anne Wilson wrote: | On Thursday 28 Oct 2004 19:25, Roy Babin wrote: | Can we please get off of this. It has been going on for days now. | | It may not be important to you, but it is to us. | | Anne And me, because I have an Olympus 750UZ, and I may be upgrading to 10.x one of these days, so I'm following this thread closely. Ann, I didn't see Kaj say that he actually booted up to the log-in screen and chose to go to Gnome or KDE directly from the drop-down list (I could have missed it). I think that he may have logged out of kde and logged back into the Xfce desktop. In that case, it could be a KDE bug, because the process was still running. Did you try rebooting and choosing Gnome, to see if the problem goes away? e Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Hardware Question... broken Laptop case
On Thursday 28 October 2004 04:03 am, Alexander Ruoff wrote: Hi all the laptop of my mum suffered a bit and now the case is broken in the back where the screen is attached to the case. Since the hardware is still fine I just want to know if it's possible to exchange the laptop cases of a Toshiba Satelite 2650 or if someone has experience doing this? Alex Yes you can change out the case top. I have seen parts in very good shape on ebay. Take a look a laptopparts and accessories If I recall. Good luck. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] For all with usb problems
On Thursday 28 October 2004 03:48 pm, Stew Benedict wrote: On Thu, 28 Oct 2004, Anne Wilson wrote: From the Expert list: quote 10.1 official updates are slated to be released Nov 1. I see a kdebase 133.1.101mdk in that tree (not publically accessible). /quote But... I see people saying they have problems even at runlevel 3 and with different window managers, so I can't really imagine kdebase has much to with it. 10.1 official is out, bittorrent is running reasonably fast, have fun. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Why is Open Office Writer so slow?
On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 07:22:04 +0100, Graham wrote: It's just taken me about 15 minutes to open a file, make a small alteration and print a single page with about 3 lines of text and a box on it. Blow away your .openoffice directory and that'll probably fix it: rm -rf ~/.openoffice Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Thunderbird and Firefox
On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 00:04:10 +0800, frankieh wrote: One ofthe complaints leveled against the mozilla suite, was feature bloat, speed etc. So they split up the apps.. moz mail became thunderbird, mozilla itself became firefox, the calander app became sunbird and so on. When all the stand alones are past ver 1.0, you will start to see them bundled together to become the new mozilla suite. A ha--thanks! I searched all over mozilla.org for that simple explanation and couldn't find it anywhere (even the FAQ). Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Display Problem
On Thursday 28 October 2004 08:47 am, Rich Lichvar wrote: | I'm a newbie to Mandrake. I'm in the process of reinstalling 10.0 from | the PowerPack. The first time I installed 10.0 (in firewall mode, the | latter being the anticipated future use along with Nessus workstation) | the background of the display was this gaudy red and greenish stripe | display. The font was also very hard to read. Did I miss something or | did the installation choose the incorrect monitor/video card type? I'm | fairly familiar with RH and haven't had similar problems with it. This | system is running on a Belkin OmniView Pro KVM switch. | | richlich Sounds like a wrong vid-card choice, to me. Do a controlAltF1 to level 3 and run the config tool (or better yet, edit your /etc/inittab to boot to level 3 instead of 5, reboot and then run the tool). I run a KVM switch, without problems, but my latest mdk version is 9.2. I do have a SuSe 9.1 install (2.6 kernel) on the switch and it is fine. BTW, you might want to turn off the reply to for list postings. You will probably get more and better help if everyone can take part in the discussion. There are some darn knowledgeable folks on this list that should be able to expand on my suggestions. e Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Always ending up IceWM
On Thursday 28 October 2004 11:16 am, emir limar wrote: | Hi people, | I installed MDK 10.1 to my HP Vectra Pentium 133 MH. 64 RAM, 1.2 Gig Box. | Problem is i am not able to see any program except IceWM and some useles | 3-4 programs what ever i choose i end up the same programs. I used to | instlaled 9.2 it was working fine with KDE and GNOME now even it doesn't | work with 10.1 , even i install 9.2 again , now it goes to IceWM again. | Both 9.2 and 10.1 end up with the IceWM. I manually install additional | packages thru Mandrake Center but non of the programs seen from IceWm or | starts from comand line. Anyone have any clue, suggestions | Otherwise i have to throw away the box. It is just filling my very limited | space. thx | emin WOW! If you could get that machine to work well with 9.2 and KDE you were doing fantastic! I have an old 233 with 256 RAM that was just o.k. with KDE and 9.2. Xfce ran fine, though. I now have SuSe 9.1 (2.6 kernel) on that machine and it is really tedious to use with KDE. For an old box like yours I would probably use damn small linux. It is a run-from-disk distro based on Knoppix (debian) and rather short on features at only 50M on a CD. I installed it to HD on a 233 laptop I have (the install takes up 325 megs of my disk--total--and I have lots of room to spare) and then added some stuff I wanted for browsing--Opera, for one. I'll bet it will work o.k. with your 133--the default desktop is Fluxbox which is fine, once you get used to it. If you insist on Mandrake, I would try xfce (urpmi xfce), then Fluxbox if that doesn't work. The last Mandrake release with KDE for that machine was probably 7.2. Each release after that has required progressively more system resources, and the only way around it is more memory and smaller-footprint desktops. e Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] tftp server cant read and write
Hi, I have a Mandrake 9.2 and installed tftp-server and tftp rpm from Mandrake 9.2 cd. The tftp server allows read and write access when the server and client are of the same network eg. Server 192.168.0.254 and Client 192.168.0.100. But if I change IP address of the tftp server to a public ip address eg. 203.125.45.3 the client cannot connect to the tftp server. Ip address setup TFTP Server 203.125.45.3 Client 192.168.0.100(connected to a ip masq server with a public ip add 203.125.45.4). What is lacking in my setup? The error message are the following TFTP server tftpd: write(ack): Operation not permitted Client(PumpKIN) : Transmission of sdffsdfs.doc is timed out : Transfer of sdffsdfs.doc was aborted Command to run tftp /usr/sbin/in.tftpd -l -c -U 0 -v -s /var/lib/tftp/ TIA, Wesley Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
