Re: [newbie] Floppy under 10CE]
On Sun, 2004-05-16 at 18:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 16 May 2004 10:43 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2004-05-16 at 08:05, John Richard Smith wrote: I am coming in late here but remove supermount might be the answer, so it has always been in my systems. On some it works on others it doesn't. HTH Easyest wayI found was to # out the entries for supermount floppies and replace them with, /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto user,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,exec,codepage=850,noauto 0 0 that sets up automount which does work. Neither of these suggestions work either. I # out any reference to mounting the floppy and attempted to mount manually after a reboot. Still no luck, the message is that fd0 is not a valid block device. If I look in the /dev directory, fd0 is there with me as the owner. What on earth is going on Rich Try this, in /etc/fstab :- /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto unhide,noauto,user 0 0 It will probably deliver error messages other than that the /dev/fd0 is not a valid block device. Then adjust accordingly. The only other thing I can think of is try this, in /etc/fstab :- /dev/floppy/0 /mnt/floppy auto rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,sync,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,unhide,umask=0,user=rich 0 0 Or whatever your user name is. Or leave out the actual =rich out of the line. Try both ways. That is how my system writes it in /etc/mtab so that might be of assistance. I have got things working by following the lead of /etc/mtab. Apologies because I am still using 9.2 and not 10 of any version. Nothing seems to work. I copied the line from /etc/mtab into /etc/fstab and am able to mount the floppy manually from the cl. I can read the floppy but when I try to copy a file to it, it begins by asking if I want to overwrite the file with the same name; I reply yes and the copy sequence starts, puts in the new date and then stops with a 'input/output' error. The file on the floppy has a new date and a size of 0! I'm baffled. We're in the process of moving and I just don't have a lot of time to spend on this problem anymore. Rich
Re: [newbie] Floppy under 10CE]
On Tue, 2004-05-18 at 09:34, Richard Urwin wrote: On Tuesday 18 May 2004 1:41 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2004-05-16 at 18:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 16 May 2004 10:43 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2004-05-16 at 08:05, John Richard Smith wrote: I am coming in late here but remove supermount might be the answer, so it has always been in my systems. On some it works on others it doesn't. HTH Easyest wayI found was to # out the entries for supermount floppies and replace them with, /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto user,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,exec,codepage=850,noauto 0 0 that sets up automount which does work. Neither of these suggestions work either. I # out any reference to mounting the floppy and attempted to mount manually after a reboot. Still no luck, the message is that fd0 is not a valid block device. If I look in the /dev directory, fd0 is there with me as the owner. What on earth is going on Rich Try this, in /etc/fstab :- /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto unhide,noauto,user 0 0 It will probably deliver error messages other than that the /dev/fd0 is not a valid block device. Then adjust accordingly. The only other thing I can think of is try this, in /etc/fstab :- /dev/floppy/0 /mnt/floppy auto rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,sync,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,unhid e,umask=0,user=rich 0 0 Or whatever your user name is. Or leave out the actual =rich out of the line. Try both ways. That is how my system writes it in /etc/mtab so that might be of assistance. I have got things working by following the lead of /etc/mtab. Apologies because I am still using 9.2 and not 10 of any version. Nothing seems to work. I copied the line from /etc/mtab into /etc/fstab and am able to mount the floppy manually from the cl. I can read the floppy but when I try to copy a file to it, it begins by asking if I want to overwrite the file with the same name; I reply yes and the copy sequence starts, puts in the new date and then stops with a 'input/output' error. The file on the floppy has a new date and a size of 0! I'm baffled. We're in the process of moving and I just don't have a lot of time to spend on this problem anymore. When all else fails it might be a hardware error. Try formatting a floppy on the machine, the drive might be out of alignment, and this may then allow you to write floppies on that drive. But you might not be able to use them on any others... Try swapping the drive, they're dead cheap. Might also be the controller on the Mobo, of course. I thought of that but this problem is exactly the same on two computers, including my laptop. And the drives work OK under Windows. I attempted to copy the file to /mnt/windows/temp so that I could copy it to the floppy from there, however, I was denied permission. Attempts to change permission of the windows folder (as root) were denied. ??? I going to mail the file to my self from mdk10, reboot and pick it up in WinXP so I can get it on the floppy. Rich
Re: [newbie] Floppy under 10CE]
On Sun, 2004-05-16 at 08:05, John Richard Smith wrote: I am coming in late here but remove supermount might be the answer, so it has always been in my systems. On some it works on others it doesn't. HTH Easyest wayI found was to # out the entries for supermount floppies and replace them with, /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto user,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,exec,codepage=850,noauto 0 0 that sets up automount which does work. Neither of these suggestions work either. I # out any reference to mounting the floppy and attempted to mount manually after a reboot. Still no luck, the message is that fd0 is not a valid block device. If I look in the /dev directory, fd0 is there with me as the owner. What on earth is going on Rich
Re: Re:[newbie] Floppy under 10CE]
On Sat, 2004-05-15 at 12:38, David A. Ferguson wrote: Well I am a new user myself. So, I am not sure what all the parameters mean. But, here is a copy of my floppy fstab line and some comments. MINE none /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=ext2:vfat,--,umask=0 YOURS none /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=ext2 ,--,umask=0,user \___/\__/ this probably lets it read DOS and Linux disks__// / this is probably your problem, the user flag turns off __/ a lot of other flags (see man mount for details) MINE ,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,codepage=850 0 0 YOURS ,iocharset=iso8859-1, codepage=850 0 0 \__/ / I think this causes all writes to occure immediately. Try removing the 'user' flag and see if that works. I would guess that the sync flag would be good for floppies since you might remove a floppy while there was still some buffered data. I made my fstab lines exactly the same as yours and still no joy! This is getting serious, I can't back up anything! Rich
[newbie] Floppy under 10CE
I am unable to do anything with the floppy drive under 10CE except read it, even as root. If I attempt to copy anything to floppy I get a 'permission denied' message. Anyone have a clue as to how to get it to work Rich
Re: [newbie] Floppy under 10CE
On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 12:34, David A. Ferguson wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am unable to do anything with the floppy drive under 10CE except read it, even as root. If I attempt to copy anything to floppy I get a 'permission denied' message. Anyone have a clue as to how to get it to work Rich Is the disk write protected? Nope. Rich
Re: [newbie] Floppy Access - 2nd Request
On Sun, 2004-04-18 at 12:48, Stephen Kuhn wrote: /dev/hdb1 / ext3 defaults 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 /dev/hdb7 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/hdd /mnt/cdrom auto umask=0,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,noauto,ro,exec 0 0 none /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=ext2:vfat,--,umask=0,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hda5 /mnt/nt ntfs umask=0,iocharset=iso8859-1,nls=iso8859-1,ro 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows vfat umask=0,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hdb6 /usr ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/hdb5 swap swap defaults 0 0 Try changing the fs=ext2:vfat bit to fs=auto, reboot and then try again - see if that resolves the issue. Nope, that didn't do it. . . Rich -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Floppy Access - 2nd Request
On Sun, 2004-04-18 at 13:44, Richard Urwin wrote: Bring up a terminal su type the root password, get the # prompt kwrite finish what you want to do exit Thanks for the tip!
Re: [newbie] Fwd: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender
On Mon, 2004-04-19 at 08:36, The Other wrote: 04/19/04 To the List Administrator, I got this message from the mailer-daemon, but I also got me email through to the list. (If the attachment didn't come through, my email was a reply on Linuxant drivers and Winmodems.) This is the second time this has happened to me. What must I do to fix this problem? I'm having the exact same problem. . . Rich -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] Floppy Access - 2nd Request
Since installing Mdk10 CE on both of my computers I've had a problem accessing the floppy drive. I can mount and read the drive but can't copy to/from it, there is an input/output error message. This happens however I'm logged in as owner or as root, the message is the same. Anyone have a clue as to what the problem could be? Rich -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] Floppy Access
Since installing Mdk10 CE on both of my computers I've had a problem accessing the floppy drive. I can mount and read the drive but can't copy to/from it, there is an input/output error message. This happens however I'm logged in as owner or as root, the message is the same. Anyone have a clue as to what the problem could be? Rich -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] OT - Evolution Question
I'm having a problem when forwarding email with embedded graphics: the graphics don't show in the forwarded copy of the email. This was not a problem in the past because the graphics DID get forwarded to the recipients even though they didn't show in my copy, however, recently I'm being told that the graphics aren't there. Am I missing a setting? I know that the way around this is to save the original email and then attach it to an outgoing email, but this is a pain and it doesn't allow the original to be edited and cleaned up. Rich
Re: [newbie] Update Vs Install
On Sun, 2004-03-14 at 03:53, Philip Cronje wrote: Anyway, that was the general gist of it. I usually do a clean install, because by the time I'm reinstalling I'm so fed up with how cluttered my system is that I just smash the thing into oblivion (hooray for /home partitions!) I guess it's all just personal preference and common sense whether you should upgrade or install. Being lazy, I tried the update route and I'm happy to say that all went well. There are a couple of programs that I want to upgrade, but all in all, I'm impressed. This was the smoothest update yet! Rich
[newbie] Update Vs Install
I've seen comments here that it's better to do a new install of MDK 10 then an update. I just did an update on my Sony Viao laptop and it went well except for the sound, but that's always been a problem. Before I install 10 on my main machine I'd like to hear the pros cons of Update vs New install. Rich
[newbie] Syncing Pilot With Evolution
I've just upgraded to mandrake 9.2 on my Sony laptop and am having a problem syncing my Garmin PDA (Palm OS5) with Evolution 1.4.4. The initial sync fails because the Gnome-Pilot can't seem to recognize the USB cradle. I'm able to sync on my old desktop (no USB) with a serial connection. Any ideas on getting my Garmin synced through the USB cradle? Rich -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] 9.2 ISOs Ready
I don't think that I've seen it mentioned here yet, but the 9.2 ISOs have been ready for general download since yesterday from the Mandrake mirrors. I got mine this morning. Rich -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] Mandrake 9.2 Hanging on Boot
The boot stops at Starting ALSA 0.9.6. This is the same problem that I had with 9.1 which was solved with the help of this list. Unfortunately, I don't remember what the solution was! Please help. . . Rich -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.2 Hanging on Boot
On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 12:50, Frans Ketelaars wrote: On Saturday 15 November 2003 17:54, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The boot stops at Starting ALSA 0.9.6. This is the same problem that I had with 9.1 which was solved with the help of this list. Unfortunately, I don't remember what the solution was! Please help. . . Rich When asked during booting to press ESC to enter verbose mode do so. Then when it says 'press 'i' to enter interactive setup' (or something like that) do so too :) You should then say no to starting ALSA. That did it, thanks. . . Rich Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] 9.2 Problems
I don't know if I have a bad install or if I'm missing something in the setup of 9.2: 1. The four icons on the initial desktop: 'CD-ROM', 'Floppy', 'Trash' and 'Home' don't link to anything. I can click all day and nothing happens. I was able to get Nautilus and bring it to the desktop and that at least, works. 2. I found what appears to be the KDE Control Center under 'Special Buttons on the lower task bar, but that doesn't seem to link to anything either. The control center doesn't show up anywhere else that I can find. 3. I don't have any sound, but that was also a problem with 9.1 on this laptop. 4. The list of applications available is pretty slim, there isn't even a browser listed anywhere. Is anyone else having this much trouble with 9.2? Am I faced with a new install from scratch / Rich -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] 9.2 Problems
On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 15:50, Greg Meyer wrote: On Saturday 15 November 2003 03:33 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know if I have a bad install or if I'm missing something in the setup of 9.2: 1. The four icons on the initial desktop: 'CD-ROM', 'Floppy', 'Trash' and 'Home' don't link to anything. I can click all day and nothing happens. I was able to get Nautilus and bring it to the desktop and that at least, works. 2. I found what appears to be the KDE Control Center under 'Special Buttons on the lower task bar, but that doesn't seem to link to anything either. The control center doesn't show up anywhere else that I can find. 3. I don't have any sound, but that was also a problem with 9.1 on this laptop. 4. The list of applications available is pretty slim, there isn't even a browser listed anywhere. Is anyone else having this much trouble with 9.2? Am I faced with a new install from scratch / Rich Try running 'update-menus -v' as root and see if that solves the problem. I have had this happen to me and updating the menus solved the problem. Also, have you applied any of the updates yet. The updates fixes a lot of little niggles. I clicked on the 'Home' icon that's in the K-menu in the lower left corner and Konqueror popped up! not only that, but all of the icons now work,including the KDE control panel. Somethn' was stuck! Rich
Re: [newbie] Evolution or no?
On Thu, 2003-10-30 at 16:51, Grant wrote: I'm slowly migrating from Windows software to Linux software with the help of Win4Lin. It's time to ditch Outlook, and Evolution looks like the natural alternative. Would anyone recommend something else instead? I need email, tasks, contacts, and a calendar. My goal is to have everything I use accessible through the Internet, but I plan to use VNC so I could just access Evolution that way. - Grant I've been using Evo for a couple of years and recommend it highly. I just bought a Palm compatible PDA (OS5) and found that it can sync with Evolution using the Gnome tool. Rich -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Desktops and their progs
On Wed, 2003-10-08 at 05:04, Sharrea Day wrote: On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 05:30, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So my question for ya'll today is: is there any reason that I need to stick with KDE native (would that be the right term?) applications, or can I freely use those Gnome applications I like in KDE (and, presumably, vice-versa)? The reason I'm suspicious is that after having a working palm sync scheme with Kpilot, and then trying it with Evolution, Kpilot had a lot of trouble and it seemed to be because Evolution had switched the deamon to gnome-pilot . . . I've never had problems running Gnome apps in KDE or vice-versa (been using KDE for 2 yrs now), however I don't use evolution or kpilot so perhaps that's not much help. Hopefully someone else is using those two specific apps in KDE and can comment. I use Evolution with the KDE desktop without any problems, in fact, last week I successfully sync'd my Garmin PDA/GPS with Evo (serial connection) using the included Gnome pilot program. Rich
Re: [newbie] Downloading files
On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 09:10, Curt Tresenriter wrote: I'm trying to get some xmms skins but every time I hit the link to d/l, the browsers download dialog box doesn't open - a new page does and it begins filling with code. What needs configuring to get the file downloaded? TIA Curt Try holding the shift key down when you hit the link. Rich -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Evolution Question
On Sun, 2003-09-14 at 19:03, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Mon, 2003-09-15 at 01:01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use Evolution on my main box and just updated my laptop to the latest version. For some reason the laptop Evo refuses to recognize the files that are backed up from the main machine. How to I get them synchronized? Rich It sounds like a perms problem. If you've put the evolution subdirectory back into your /home/yournamehere directory, you should su to root, then do: chown -R mylogin:mylogin evolution ...this would then change the permissions to YOUR permissions; once you've done that, then fire up Evolution again. I'm assuming that when you backed up Evo you did back up that entire subdirectory structure, yes? A trick I use to make Evo run a tad bit faster is to put the evolution subdirectory structure on a faster drive (SCSI) and create a link to it from my /home/mynamehere directory - this also makes for doing great automagic backups without disturbing other bits'n'bobs... I'm still having a problem getting the laptop version of Evo to recognize the files from the desktop version. The files are copied from the floppy to the laptop but when Evolution is activated, the new files are immediately replaced by the original empty files! It took me awhile to realize what was happening. The copied files are about 80 kB but when Evo pops up, they're back to 579k. Why won't the laptop Evo recognize the new files? The permission problems have been addressed. Rich -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Evolution Question
On Wed, 2003-09-17 at 10:21, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Wed, 2003-09-17 at 23:26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm still having a problem getting the laptop version of Evo to recognize the files from the desktop version. The files are copied from the floppy to the laptop but when Evolution is activated, the new files are immediately replaced by the original empty files! It took me awhile to realize what was happening. The copied files are about 80 kB but when Evo pops up, they're back to 579k. Why won't the laptop Evo recognize the new files? The permission problems have been addressed. Rich Don't know if I fully understand this: evolution stores it's mail files and other associated bits'n'bobs under: /home/yournamegoeshere/evolution ...and you're copying this stuff from a floppy to that directory? Yes, specifically to /home/rich/evolution/local/Calendar, ... /Contacts, .../Tasks, etc. Rich -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Evolution Question
On Sun, 2003-09-14 at 19:03, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Mon, 2003-09-15 at 01:01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use Evolution on my main box and just updated my laptop to the latest version. For some reason the laptop Evo refuses to recognize the files that are backed up from the main machine. How to I get them synchronized? Rich It sounds like a perms problem. If you've put the evolution subdirectory back into your /home/yournamehere directory, you should su to root, then do: chown -R mylogin:mylogin evolution ...this would then change the permissions to YOUR permissions; once you've done that, then fire up Evolution again. I'm assuming that when you backed up Evo you did back up that entire subdirectory structure, yes? A trick I use to make Evo run a tad bit faster is to put the evolution subdirectory structure on a faster drive (SCSI) and create a link to it from my /home/mynamehere directory - this also makes for doing great automagic backups without disturbing other bits'n'bobs... That was my first thought and I did a chmod to the evo directory without much luck, chown didn't help either. I tried removing evo and downloading again, but things just got worse; every time I clicked on the Summary icon, evo crashed. I tried using rpm -e to remove the package but the message was the package is not installed. When I used rpm -i to install, it says that it's there and up to date. The evolution binary is missing from the /usr/bin directory. I'm a little puzzled as to what I should do next. Rich -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] Evolution Question
I use Evolution on my main box and just updated my laptop to the latest version. For some reason the laptop Evo refuses to recognize the files that are backed up from the main machine. How to I get them synchronized? Rich -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Palm and Evolution
I just ordered a Garmin ique 3600 PDA/GPS that uses the Palm OS 5. I see that Evolution incudes the Gnome Pilot software for Hotsync. Has anyone here used this program with a Palm PDA to transfer Contact, Calendar and Task information? Rich -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] Time Setting
I know this has been covered here before, but all of a sudden my time setting resets every time the computer boots or reboots. I've used the KDE control panel, the Mandrake control panel and the command line to reset the time to no avail. This happened all of a sudden a couple of days ago. Could it be that my motherboard battery has died? Although, the calendar setting is OK. Rich -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Time Setting
On Mon, 2003-08-04 at 03:28, Jerry Barton wrote: On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 08:03:34 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know this has been covered here before, but all of a sudden my time setting resets every time the computer boots or reboots. I've used the KDE control panel, the Mandrake control panel and the command line to reset the time to no avail. This happened all of a sudden a couple of days ago. Could it be that my motherboard battery has died? Although, the calendar setting is OK. When you reboot is the time a) always a random time (example one time it's 4 hours ahead, nex time it's 3 hours 20 minutes slow) b) always off the same number of hours (example: always 5 hours too fast) c) always set to the same time (example: at boot the time is always noon) This may help in finding out the problem. If it's b then I would check your time zone setting. mcc/system/date and time/Time Zone button I'm not sure about a or c though I'm sure someone else might have some input. Jerry. It's b), always 4 hours earlier but the time zone setting is correct. Rich -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Epson C62
On Wed, 2003-07-30 at 04:41, Anne Wilson wrote: PS maybe it was just a bad Amazon cart and the next one would have worked fine? Just a thought. You know how random the Universe is! lol That's not impossible. I have used replacement carts for my DJ990 without problems, but I did get one that simply would not be accepted. I rang the supplier, who sent me a replacement and a bag to returnthe faulty one. Anne My C62 worked OK with a non-Epson cart with MDK9.1 after several nozzle cleanings. When I used it with WinXP a message popped up that the cart wasn't Epson and the result might not be what was expected. Other than the original problem that I described here, it works OK. Rich -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Epson C62
On Tue, 2003-07-29 at 10:57, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Tuesday 29 July 2003 08:59 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a little off topic but I know some on the list own Epson printers and can help with a problem I'm having with my C62: The problem is that regardless of the font or layout on the screen, the printer seems to use its own font, larger than I use, and is still printing while the page is being ejected from the printer. The result is a double and triple printing of lines at the end of the page. I should mention that this happens regardless of the OS, Linux or WinXp, laptop or desktop, OpenOffice or Word. Has anyone else run into this problem? Rich Hey Rich. I've got an Epson C62 here and it works great. I've never used it under Windows but its never had the problem you describe above under Mandrake here... Only problem I've ever had with it was when I used one of those cheap, generic Amazon refill cartridges. It growled, clacked, and carried on something awful. (wouldn't work either!). grin I had a little problem getting a cheap refill to work, but it finally did. It behaves the same no matter which cart I use. I called Epson and they said put a true Epson replacement cartridge back in it and watch it take off. They were right. They also filled me in on something that I did not know - if you use a non-Epson cartridge, it voids the warranty. (that sounds like BS, but thats what they said). Anyways, I'm running mine via USB, never tried the printer port. Which way are you running it and can you switch just to see if it makes a diff? Printer port on the table top machine and USB on the laptop - same results. Rich
Re: [newbie] Java in Netscape
On Sun, 2003-06-08 at 22:13, Troy Davidson wrote: Login as root, and go to this page: http://cgi.netscape.com/cgi-bin/pi_moreinfo.cgi?PID=10048 Download the plugin and you are all set. That did it, Troy - Thanks! Rich
Re: [newbie] Java in Netscape
On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 09:42, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2003-06-08 at 22:13, Troy Davidson wrote: Login as root, and go to this page: http://cgi.netscape.com/cgi-bin/pi_moreinfo.cgi?PID=10048 Download the plugin and you are all set. That did it, Troy - Thanks! Looks like I spoke too soon; the java plugins show as being installed in about plugins, but only work when I'm logged in as root. How do I change permissions of the plugins so they work when I'm logged in as myself? Rich
Re: [newbie] Java in Netscape
On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 10:50, Troy Davidson wrote: Hmmm... that's strange. I have never had to change permissions for the plugins for my machine. Are you running at a higher security level? My security level is default. Strange indeed! My security level is also default (5?). I've tried changing permissions on netscape and netscape-bin to no avail. Rich Troy Davidson Linux User #311107 ++ Follow the adventures of a real life computer and gaming nerd! www.clandaith.com ++ ** This messages was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer ** Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 09:42, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2003-06-08 at 22:13, Troy Davidson wrote: Login as root, and go to this page: http://cgi.netscape.com/cgi-bin/pi_moreinfo.cgi?PID=10048 Download the plugin and you are all set. That did it, Troy - Thanks! Looks like I spoke too soon; the java plugins show as being installed in about plugins, but only work when I'm logged in as root. How do I change permissions of the plugins so they work when I'm logged in as myself? Rich Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Java in Netscape
My transition to 9.1 is complete with one exception: getting java to work in Netscape 7.02. When I installed Netscape on my laptop, it was version 7.0 and came with java that installed automatically. A couple of days later I installed MDk 9.1 on my desktop and downloaded Netscape. This time it was version 7.02 and java was not included. I downloaded Sun java 1.4.x and installed it per instructions, but Netscape does't recognize that it's there. I did the simlink thing to ~/.netscape6 and ~/.netscape to no avail. I also went into the KDE control panel and added the links to the plugin panel. No dice. Exactly where is Netscape looking for its plugins? Opera finds java with no problem at all. Rich -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Sound Problems in MDK 9.1
On Fri, 2003-06-06 at 14:25, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Friday 06 June 2003 01:39 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This morning I updated my 9.0 to 9.1 without a hitch except for sound - there isn't any. The system is recognizing my sound card OK and I've checked all of the sound settings that I can find, but no joy! This exact same thing happened when I updated my laptop to 9.1 and, mysteriously, it just started working one day without warning! Any hints about where to look to get the sound going again? Rich Rich, was it system sound or sound from games/apps? Sometimes arts will grab something like /dev/dsp and not let go unless you kill it. If for example, I start Starcraft (WineX) and there is no sound, I su to root and do a: lsof /dev/dsp and it will tell me if arts has a hold of it. It's system sounds. I haven't tried any games/apps yet. Rich
Re: [newbie] Epson printer warning!
On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 09:23, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 06:18:55PM -0500, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Saturday 01 March 2003 02:20 pm, Technoslick wrote: Isn't it true on the newer inkjets that you need to apply a software 'patch' to reset the chip, or fool it, into thinking that the refill is brand new? A friend who refills her own told me she had to do this to get her own refils to work. This was in Windows, BTW. T Hmm, hadn't ever heard that but I guess its possible. Of course, I don't use Windows on my main comp... A month or two ago I bought a refill for the cartridges on an Epson 777i. It came with a floppy disk of software to install in WIndows to reset the chip so the printer would accept the refilled cartridge. I returned the entir package because (1) Rebooting to WIndows every time the printer runs out of ink is not acceptable (2) Without a floppy drive on my computer, installation was a dubious prospect. After the previous discussions about which printers have chips in their cartridges I checked the Epson C62 manual and it only has the usual Caution about refilling the carts because of the quality problems that could ensue. It also warns against drinking the ink! Has this been a problem in the past? g Rich -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Epson printer warning!
On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 12:09, Todd Slater wrote: Not if you cut it with vodka. However, it will scare the hell out of your It's funny that you should mention him, I had an appointment with him this morning in preparation for a colonoscopy. I'll lay off the ink for a few days before the procedure. Rich -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Careful Rich--a friend went in last week for a colonoscopy and shortly thereafter came down with a terrible fever and intestinal distress. He returned home Monday after emergency surgery to remove 12 inches of his perforated large intestine. It was nearly fatal. So, good luck with that! Thanks Todd. This Dr. did a colonoscopy on me 2 1/2 years ago and I know he's good, but I guess that sort of thing can happen anytime. Rich -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Epson printer warning!
On Sun, 2003-03-02 at 05:20, Anne Wilson wrote: That's what I thought you meant, but now I'm confused! HP printer carts are the ones chipped here in the states and I'm not aware of any Epson carts being chipped, and I own 4 of them at the moment. Can anyone else step in here and help me out? Must be a difference in international markets. I have a price list in front of me that says stylus 680 black, not chipped for use with ILRS stylus 680 colour, not chipped for use with ILRS stylus 680 black, chipped stylus 680, colour chipped and so on... There are also Canon, HP, Lexmark and Olivetti carts listed, but none of those brands show any mention of 'chipped' You're probably right about the differences in markets. My HP 930C (Hey, maybe the C stands for Chipped) is sitting in a box right now because it's too much of a hassle to deal with the cartridges. The HP carts are too expensive and the recycled carts are not all that reliable. I tried refilling my own carts, but that's also a hassle. The book that came with the refill inks was were I got the idea for rotating three cartridges. Rich -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Epson printer warning!
On Sat, 2003-03-01 at 14:20, Technoslick wrote: On Saturday 01 March 2003 01:39 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote: Okay, about a week ago I posted a message about problems I was having with my Epson C62 printer. Isn't it true on the newer inkjets that you need to apply a software 'patch' to reset the chip, or fool it, into thinking that the refill is brand new? A friend who refills her own told me she had to do this to get her own refils to work. This was in Windows, BTW. This is true for HP printers. The usual way is to have a rotation of 3 carts to be refilled, the printer remembers the serial numbers of the last two carts it used and won't print if you refill a cart and put it back in the printer. Which is the reason that I got rid of the HP printer and replaced it with an Epson C62, the HPs are just too expensive to operate and I don't see that much of a quality difference. I've always used the cheapest replacement cartridges that I could find for my Epson printers without a problem. The C62 cart light is flashing and I'm almost out of black ink, we'll see how the replacement works very soon! Rich -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Epson printer warning!
On Sat, 2003-03-01 at 15:38, Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 01 Mar 2003 8:03 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is true for HP printers. The usual way is to have a rotation of 3 carts to be refilled, the printer remembers the serial numbers of the last two carts it used and won't print if you refill a cart and put it back in the printer. Which is the reason that I got rid of the HP printer and replaced it with an Epson C62, the HPs are just too expensive to operate and I don't see that much of a quality difference. Not true. I've used recycled cartridges on my HP printer for ages. And I've taken one out, put a new one in, and when I got a faulty one that the printer wouldn't accept I put the old one back in until I could get a replacement. No problems at all. I'm not sure what you mean by not true, but it sounds as if you have an older HP printer. I've always used the cheapest replacement cartridges that I could find for my Epson printers without a problem. The C62 cart light is flashing and I'm almost out of black ink, we'll see how the replacement works very soon! At local computer fairs I see that a lot of refilled cartridges are available for Epson printers, but some vendors say that they are 'guaranteed chipped'. I've also read recently that the EU are trying to outlaw the practise of chipping cartridges, because it makes recycling difficult. Exactly what do you mean by chipped? Rich -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Epson printer warning!
On Sat, 2003-03-01 at 17:08, Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 01 Mar 2003 8:52 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2003-03-01 at 15:38, Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 01 Mar 2003 8:03 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is true for HP printers. The usual way is to have a rotation of 3 carts to be refilled, the printer remembers the serial numbers of the last two carts it used and won't print if you refill a cart and put it back in the printer. Which is the reason that I got rid of the HP printer and replaced it with an Epson C62, the HPs are just too expensive to operate and I don't see that much of a quality difference. Not true. I've used recycled cartridges on my HP printer for ages. And I've taken one out, put a new one in, and when I got a faulty one that the printer wouldn't accept I put the old one back in until I could get a replacement. No problems at all. I'm not sure what you mean by not true, but it sounds as if you have an older HP printer. Deskjet 990Cxi - not old by any stretch of imagination. I've always used the cheapest replacement cartridges that I could find for my Epson printers without a problem. The C62 cart light is flashing and I'm almost out of black ink, we'll see how the replacement works very soon! At local computer fairs I see that a lot of refilled cartridges are available for Epson printers, but some vendors say that they are 'guaranteed chipped'. I've also read recently that the EU are trying to outlaw the practise of chipping cartridges, because it makes recycling difficult. Exactly what do you mean by chipped? I don't know anything about the technology, other than people selling them told me that it is the way that Epson machines are rigged to recognise their own cartridges. That's what I thought you meant, but now I'm confused! HP printer carts are the ones chipped here in the states and I'm not aware of any Epson carts being chipped, and I own 4 of them at the moment. Can anyone else step in here and help me out? Rich -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Mozilla News Reader
On Sat, 2003-02-01 at 15:33, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Sun, 2003-02-02 at 03:04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying out Mozilla News Reader 1.1 for the first time and am wondering how one goes about deleting accumulated messages. When the window first comes up there is a grayed out Delete button, but that button is replaced by a Mark button when messages are actually shown. How do I go about removing unwanted messages? Rich -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use PAN - really - you won't regret it. I did. I don't. Thanks! Rich -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] Image Conversion
Does anyone know of an image conversion program that will do jpeg to dxf file conversions? Rich -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Image Conversion
On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 16:43, Adolfo Bello wrote: On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 16:11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know of an image conversion program that will do jpeg to dxf file conversions? Rich Raster-to-Vector conversion? Expensive and not so good even for raster blueprints. Yeah, that's what I was afraid of; I no longer have access to AutoCAD. Rich -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Image Conversion
On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 17:44, Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 20 Jan 2003 10:36 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 16:43, Adolfo Bello wrote: On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 16:11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know of an image conversion program that will do jpeg to dxf file conversions? Rich Raster-to-Vector conversion? Expensive and not so good even for raster blueprints. Yeah, that's what I was afraid of; I no longer have access to AutoCAD. You say you have the files in dxf format? Jan says that Star/OpenOffice Draw can handle vector formats. It's worth a try. But it wouldn't handle the jpgs, I'm fairly sure. No, I have the opposite problem, a floor plan in jpg format that I'd like to modify in QCAD, which works in dxf (drawing interchange program). Rich -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Image Conversion
On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 18:31, Adolfo Bello wrote: On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 18:36, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 16:43, Adolfo Bello wrote: On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 16:11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know of an image conversion program that will do jpeg to dxf file conversions? Rich Raster-to-Vector conversion? Expensive and not so good even for raster blueprints. Yeah, that's what I was afraid of; I no longer have access to AutoCAD. Rich Check www.qcad.org I downloaded it today, nice program! Still can't do the conversion I want, so I'm going to do it from scratch. Thanks- Rich -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Image Conversion
On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 19:27, John Richard Smith wrote: Dennis Myers wrote: On Monday 20 January 2003 04:36 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 16:43, Adolfo Bello wrote: On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 16:11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know of an image conversion program that will do jpeg to dxf file conversions? Rich Raster-to-Vector conversion? Expensive and not so good even for raster blueprints. Yeah, that's what I was afraid of; I no longer have access to AutoCAD. Rich Have you had a look at qcad. I don't know how good it is but it may be worth a look? Don't even know if it can use dxf or jpeg. Any way it is on the 9.0 power pack and may be on the d/l version, if not bet its on the net. HTH QCAD is ok, I've used it a bit , done a couple of drawings, cannot say I have extensive knowledge, and whilst it is capable , instruction, if like me you have had limited experience with such a type of programme, is limited I have some experience with AutoCAD and what I have to do isn't all that complicated. QCAD is pretty basic and I don't think it'll be all that difficult. Rich -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Time Setting in KDE
On Thu, 2003-01-16 at 18:27, Adolfo Bello wrote: On Thu, 2003-01-16 at 11:28, Rich wrote: On Wednesday 15 January 2003 10:22 am, Rich wrote: Yesterday I noticed that the time setting in KDE was off by 4 hours so I right clicked on the clock and adjusted to the correct time setting. Today, when I booted the computer it was once again off by 4 hours. The other thing that happens is that when I click on the Apply button, the monitor shuts off until I hit a key! Any ideas about why this is happening all of a sudden? The only new thing installed was Opera. OK, it happened again this morning, only it was off by 5 hours (I may have been wrong about 4 hours yesterday. Any clues at all out there?? Rich The first time that I installed Mandrake 9, I had the same problem. Then I remembered that I picked GMT as the time to use to synchronize with the time server. During second installation (2 or 3 days later) I picked the other format and the problem was gone. I don't know how to change this setting after installation. I'll look into it, thanks Rich -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT Broken Spell Check in OpenOffice
On Sun, 2003-01-12 at 23:33, Joeb wrote: I think OO actually uses myspell. Installing myspell-en will take care of it if you use English. You will also need to check the settings as Anne pointed out after installing. Finally, you might want to also install OpenOffice.org-help, which are the help files for OpenOffice.org. If you aren't sure how to install files, the easiest way would be to click on the Install Software menu under KMenu==Configuration==Packaging. Then select all packages alphabetical and scroll through the list till you get to myspell and click on your language and scroll to you get to the OpenOffice.org-help and click on your language and finally click the install button. Joeb On Sun, 12 Jan 2003 21:53:15 + Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 12 Jan 2003 4:08 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm using the OpenOffice version 1.0.1 that came with Mandrake 9.0 and everything works fine except the spell check. Running the spell check on a document doesn't identify (by underling I'm assuming) the miss spelled words, but doesn't give any errors. The soffice.dic is being pointed to. Any advice? There was a long thread about this in December, IIRC. You might like to search the archives for the details, but in essence, the spell checker is not installed by default. I can't remember whether OO uses aspell or ispell, but you have to install it separately. You also have to check the settings under Options, Language. That did it, thanks to you both! Rich -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] OT Broken Spell Check in OpenOffice
I'm using the OpenOffice version 1.0.1 that came with Mandrake 9.0 and everything works fine except the spell check. Running the spell check on a document doesn't identify (by underling I'm assuming) the miss spelled words, but doesn't give any errors. The soffice.dic is being pointed to. Any advice? Rich -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Java - lost it
Success! OK, partial success. I removed all trace of java from my machine, ran the upgrade from the 9.0 discs and then installed the Blackdown java. Mozilla and Galeon now work OK, but for some reason Netscape 7.0 still refuses to recognize java. Oh well, if I need it, I have it! Thanks for everyone's help. Rich On Fri, 2003-01-03 at 13:07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Originally I did an upgrade on both of my computers, the laptop is still working, but my main computer crashed about a week later, reason unknown. I was unable to recover from the crash,so did a fresh install. I think my step step, if I can find the time, will be to hunt down all vestiges of java and then do an upgrade followed by a fresh install of java. Rich On Fri, 2003-01-03 at 10:32, Myers, Dennis R NWO wrote: Did you upgrade or do a fresh install. One of the features with 9.0 was supposed to be it's ability to upgrade over an older OS but I don't think that it works consistantly and may be you are better off with a clean install? Dennis M. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 8:56 AM To: Mandrake Subject: Re: [newbie] Java - lost it On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 16:57, erylon hines wrote: On Thursday 02 January 2003 12:44 pm, you wrote: My installation is also from the discs and uninstalling and re-installing didn't work for me. Mozilla and Galeon crash when encountering applets; Konqueror doesn't crash, but the applet freezes when it's 29% loaded; Netscape still refuses to even acknowledge that java is loaded. Where to next?? Rich There is a fairly high probablility that you have two java's installed, and a bad link to the *.so going (or, maybe no link at all). Note that this must be a link to the javaplugin_oji.so, copying the *.so to the /usr/lib/netscape/plugins directory will NOT work--same for mozilla. MozillaHelpAbout plug-ins shows the java that you have installed?? (should be the Sun version) #java -version returns what? (Kaffee should be o.k., but you can uninstall it using the package manager and re-make your path to the Sun version as a last resort--since this is only for web browsers that shouldn't be necessary). I'm trying to determine just what mods the rpm installer made to your directories and links. Everyone else reading this--I recommend that you use the version from Blackdown if you must have a JVM because it is a bzipped tarball and not a *.bin or rpm. If you use tarballs you can have more control of the install. Installing java ain't really hard--honest. 1. Download the bz2 tarball and put it in /usr/local then cd to /usr/local 2. Unpack it with the command tar -xvvIf name_of_tarball (note that is an eye not an ell -- a directory /usr/local/java_version_directory will be created) 3. ln -s /usr/local/java_version_directory/plugin/i386/mozilla/javaplugin_oji.so /usr/lib/mozilla plugins 4. Repeat for netscape (note to use the proper plugin directory--moz and netscape are different) I don't use Galeon--you are on your own for that If you must have a real JVM for some 3rd party program (not very likely, but possible) remove Kaffee from your system. 1. open /etc/profile with your favorite editor 2. Add the line: export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/java_version_directory/bin (this sets the variable PATH to the previous PATH and adds the new line to it) 3. Add the line: export JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/java_version_directory 4. Reload /etc/profile If none of this works for you, I've exhausted my suggestions, but I assure you, it has worked for me. Well, I've exhausted all of my possibilities, none of the java installs will work, Sun or Blackdown or Netscape. I've also noticed that Konqueror file manager crashes sometimes when I click on a Mozilla directory. There's something very wrong with my installation. Strangely, another computer that I upgraded (this one was a fresh install) works perfectly! Thanks to everyone for all of their efforts. Rich -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Java - lost it
On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 16:57, erylon hines wrote: On Thursday 02 January 2003 12:44 pm, you wrote: My installation is also from the discs and uninstalling and re-installing didn't work for me. Mozilla and Galeon crash when encountering applets; Konqueror doesn't crash, but the applet freezes when it's 29% loaded; Netscape still refuses to even acknowledge that java is loaded. Where to next?? Rich There is a fairly high probablility that you have two java's installed, and a bad link to the *.so going (or, maybe no link at all). Note that this must be a link to the javaplugin_oji.so, copying the *.so to the /usr/lib/netscape/plugins directory will NOT work--same for mozilla. MozillaHelpAbout plug-ins shows the java that you have installed?? (should be the Sun version) #java -version returns what? (Kaffee should be o.k., but you can uninstall it using the package manager and re-make your path to the Sun version as a last resort--since this is only for web browsers that shouldn't be necessary). I'm trying to determine just what mods the rpm installer made to your directories and links. Everyone else reading this--I recommend that you use the version from Blackdown if you must have a JVM because it is a bzipped tarball and not a *.bin or rpm. If you use tarballs you can have more control of the install. Installing java ain't really hard--honest. 1. Download the bz2 tarball and put it in /usr/local then cd to /usr/local 2. Unpack it with the command tar -xvvIf name_of_tarball (note that is an eye not an ell -- a directory /usr/local/java_version_directory will be created) 3. ln -s /usr/local/java_version_directory/plugin/i386/mozilla/javaplugin_oji.so /usr/lib/mozilla plugins 4. Repeat for netscape (note to use the proper plugin directory--moz and netscape are different) I don't use Galeon--you are on your own for that If you must have a real JVM for some 3rd party program (not very likely, but possible) remove Kaffee from your system. 1. open /etc/profile with your favorite editor 2. Add the line: export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/java_version_directory/bin (this sets the variable PATH to the previous PATH and adds the new line to it) 3. Add the line: export JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/java_version_directory 4. Reload /etc/profile If none of this works for you, I've exhausted my suggestions, but I assure you, it has worked for me. Well, I've exhausted all of my possibilities, none of the java installs will work, Sun or Blackdown or Netscape. I've also noticed that Konqueror file manager crashes sometimes when I click on a Mozilla directory. There's something very wrong with my installation. Strangely, another computer that I upgraded (this one was a fresh install) works perfectly! Thanks to everyone for all of their efforts. Rich -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Java - lost it
Originally I did an upgrade on both of my computers, the laptop is still working, but my main computer crashed about a week later, reason unknown. I was unable to recover from the crash,so did a fresh install. I think my step step, if I can find the time, will be to hunt down all vestiges of java and then do an upgrade followed by a fresh install of java. Rich On Fri, 2003-01-03 at 10:32, Myers, Dennis R NWO wrote: Did you upgrade or do a fresh install. One of the features with 9.0 was supposed to be it's ability to upgrade over an older OS but I don't think that it works consistantly and may be you are better off with a clean install? Dennis M. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 8:56 AM To: Mandrake Subject: Re: [newbie] Java - lost it On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 16:57, erylon hines wrote: On Thursday 02 January 2003 12:44 pm, you wrote: My installation is also from the discs and uninstalling and re-installing didn't work for me. Mozilla and Galeon crash when encountering applets; Konqueror doesn't crash, but the applet freezes when it's 29% loaded; Netscape still refuses to even acknowledge that java is loaded. Where to next?? Rich There is a fairly high probablility that you have two java's installed, and a bad link to the *.so going (or, maybe no link at all). Note that this must be a link to the javaplugin_oji.so, copying the *.so to the /usr/lib/netscape/plugins directory will NOT work--same for mozilla. MozillaHelpAbout plug-ins shows the java that you have installed?? (should be the Sun version) #java -version returns what? (Kaffee should be o.k., but you can uninstall it using the package manager and re-make your path to the Sun version as a last resort--since this is only for web browsers that shouldn't be necessary). I'm trying to determine just what mods the rpm installer made to your directories and links. Everyone else reading this--I recommend that you use the version from Blackdown if you must have a JVM because it is a bzipped tarball and not a *.bin or rpm. If you use tarballs you can have more control of the install. Installing java ain't really hard--honest. 1. Download the bz2 tarball and put it in /usr/local then cd to /usr/local 2. Unpack it with the command tar -xvvIf name_of_tarball (note that is an eye not an ell -- a directory /usr/local/java_version_directory will be created) 3. ln -s /usr/local/java_version_directory/plugin/i386/mozilla/javaplugin_oji.so /usr/lib/mozilla plugins 4. Repeat for netscape (note to use the proper plugin directory--moz and netscape are different) I don't use Galeon--you are on your own for that If you must have a real JVM for some 3rd party program (not very likely, but possible) remove Kaffee from your system. 1. open /etc/profile with your favorite editor 2. Add the line: export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/java_version_directory/bin (this sets the variable PATH to the previous PATH and adds the new line to it) 3. Add the line: export JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/java_version_directory 4. Reload /etc/profile If none of this works for you, I've exhausted my suggestions, but I assure you, it has worked for me. Well, I've exhausted all of my possibilities, none of the java installs will work, Sun or Blackdown or Netscape. I've also noticed that Konqueror file manager crashes sometimes when I click on a Mozilla directory. There's something very wrong with my installation. Strangely, another computer that I upgraded (this one was a fresh install) works perfectly! Thanks to everyone for all of their efforts. Rich -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Java - lost it
On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 12:25, Anne Wilson wrote: I suspect the problem is with your Mozilla install. Tho I have no idea what is maybe wrong (and I'm now usin the newer 9.1 cooker version 1.3-0.alpha.1mdk). It's the standard install from 9.0's discs. I don't feel confident at using cooker versions yet. I could uninstall and re-install I suppose. I think the next thing to try is to check for suitable links in the Mozilla directory. My installation is also from the discs and uninstalling and re-installing didn't work for me. Mozilla and Galeon crash when encountering applets; Konqueror doesn't crash, but the applet freezes when it's 29% loaded; Netscape still refuses to even acknowledge that java is loaded. Where to next?? Rich -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Java
On Tue, 2002-12-31 at 21:09, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Tuesday December 31 2002 01:55 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This may be a little off topic, but it's driving me crazy. I recently upgraded to Mandrake 9.0 from 8.2 and had a mysterious crash and wasn't able to recover or salvage anything. I decided to start over from scratch and just downloaded Netscape 7.0. I also require Java and downloaded the latest version, 1.4.1. I extracted the java files and set up the KDE control center/Netscape plugin utility to find the new plugin, which it did. The problem is that Netscape doesn't load the new java plugin. Did I miss a step? Yeah, too many steps. Nutscrape was the first mistake ; 'rpm -Uvh j2re-1.4.1_01-5mdk' rpm makes java available globally to all apps (browsers too). You do nothin, and can't screw it up ;) It's available from the Club, or maybe from /unsupported mirrors. Thanks, I'll look for it. BTW, which browser do you recommend? Rich -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Java
On Tue, 2002-12-31 at 23:34, Jerry wrote: How about if one has installed it from the binaries available at java.sun.com? I installed java from there (not a Club member), and linked /usr/lib/mozilla-1.1/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so to ~/j2sdk1.4.1_01/jre/plugin/i386/ns610/libjavaplugin_oji.so (it installed the binary in my home dir) but if galeon or mozilla comes across any java it just closes (crashes). Exactly the same problem that I'm having, Galeon crashes on any page that has java and Netscape refuses to recognize that it's there. Rich -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing Java plugin for Mozilla
On Wed, 2003-01-01 at 17:42, Mark Weaver wrote: Hi there, I wish I had a dollar, (accounting for the current rate of inflation), for every time I've seen this need addressed in these lists. Doesn't anyone read the archives any more? ;) with this thought in mind I've saved this message as a template on my system and will send it to the list probably once a week so in case anyone misses the post it will show up again and again and again on the list for those poor souls that missed it the previous time it was posted. Almost as many times as the question, where can I get the Java plugins for Mozilla/Netscape...etc... anyway...if you're needing the java plugin for Netscape, or Mozilla go follow the link below and you'll be able to download and install the java plugin. And by the way...this does not require the download and install of Sun's JDK or JRE packages. This is a seperate browser plugin. IMPORTANT NOTE: you Must be root user when you do this or the plugin will NOT install. http://cgi.netscape.com/cgi-bin/pi_moreinfo.cgi?PID=10048 Still no joy, Netscape also refuses to recognize this version of java and, although Mozilla an Galeon recognize the updated version, they still crash instantly when encountering a page with an applet. Rich -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Default Browser
On Thu, 2002-12-26 at 19:43, John McQuillen wrote: On Fri, 2002-12-27 at 10:37, Rich wrote: I recently upgraded from Mandrake 8.2 to version 9.0 and everything went smoothly. My problem is that Evolution 1.2.1 doesn't load a browser when a link is clicked. The problem may be that I can't find anyplace in Mandrake to assign a default browser. Is it possible that I missed it, or has it been removed as an option? You need to change the default browser in GNOME. gnome-control-center Go to 'Advanced' - 'Preferred Applications' then select 'Custom Web Browser' and enter the command line for your preferred browser. Mine is currently 'mozilla %s'. It was originally mozilla %s%, I've also tried Galeon and Netscape with no success. Rich -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
