Re: [newbie] modem problems - speak slowly please

2004-08-06 Thread simon

> simon wrote:

> > I installed the rpm then as root ran hcfpciconfig 
Julie, as your modem is an hsf type you might have to run 
hsfpciconfig, not the hcfpciconfig that was for my hcf type modem.
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Re: [newbie] modem problems - speak slowly please

2004-08-06 Thread Frans Ketelaars
On Friday 06 August 2004 15:44, Julie Sloan wrote:
> simon wrote:
> > On Friday 06 Aug 2004 04:33, Julie Sloan wrote:
> >>now in GUI...
> >>in MCC -> hardware -> hardware ...the modem is *still* listed as
> >>"unknown device."
> >>
> >>in MCC -> network -> make new connection ...I tell it modem, com3
> >>(yes, 3), automatic on the IP, DNS, etc
> >
> > Julie, as the Mandrake Control Centre didn't recognise my hcf
> > modem, it would not configure my internet connection properly. I
> > used Kppp dialer instead and manually configured (most settings are
> > default). HTH.
> > Simon.
>
> ok,   where do I find the KPPP?
>
> J

K -> internet -> remote access -> KPPP . If it's not installed you must 
install the kdenetwork-kppp rpm. You can install it as root with 'urpmi 
kdenetwork-kppp' or use the software install GUI. 

HTH,

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Re: [newbie] modem problems - speak slowly please

2004-08-06 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Friday 06 August 2004 09:28 am, Julie Sloan wrote:

> I gather serial vs USB is the keyword here?  (sorry - I'm *completely*
> ignorant.  People probably wonder why I'm not on AOL  :))

Serial as in, connects to the computer serial port which is the more 
traditional port for analog modem communications.  USB is newer and not as 
likely to be as well supported under Linux.

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Re: [newbie] modem problems - speak slowly please

2004-08-06 Thread Hoyt Bailey
On Friday 06 August 2004 08:44, Julie Sloan wrote:
> simon wrote:
> > On Friday 06 Aug 2004 04:33, Julie Sloan wrote:
> >>now in GUI...
> >>in MCC -> hardware -> hardware ...the modem is *still* listed as
> >>"unknown device."
> >>
> >>in MCC -> network -> make new connection ...I tell it modem, com3
> >>(yes, 3), automatic on the IP, DNS, etc
> >
> > Julie, as the Mandrake Control Centre didn't recognise my hcf
> > modem, it would not configure my internet connection properly. I
> > used Kppp dialer instead and manually configured (most settings are
> > default). HTH.
> > Simon.
>
> ok,   where do I find the KPPP?
>
> J
Issue the following commands as root:
slocate -u (wait for completion)
As root or user:
locate kppp
If it doesnt show up, then as root:
urpmi kppp
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Re: [newbie] modem problems - speak slowly please

2004-08-06 Thread Julie Sloan

simon wrote:
On Friday 06 Aug 2004 04:33, Julie Sloan wrote:

now in GUI...
in MCC -> hardware -> hardware ...the modem is *still* listed as
"unknown device."
in MCC -> network -> make new connection ...I tell it modem, com3
(yes, 3), automatic on the IP, DNS, etc
Julie, as the Mandrake Control Centre didn't recognise my hcf modem, 
it would not configure my internet connection properly. I used Kppp 
dialer instead and manually configured (most settings are default). 
HTH.
Simon.


ok,   where do I find the KPPP?
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Re: [newbie] modem problems - speak slowly please

2004-08-06 Thread Julie Sloan

simon wrote:
On Friday 06 Aug 2004 04:33, Julie Sloan wrote:

The modem's a conexant hsf and I've d/l'd the apropriate driver
from the linuxant site into the window$ partition
Hi Julie,
I have a Conexant modem running on Mdk10. It is an hcf modem and I 
also downloaded the driver from the Linuxant site.
I installed the rpm then as root ran hcfpciconfig which led me 
through the configuration. (Mandrake Control Centre still doesn't 
recognise my modem.)
I don't know whether this applies to hsf modems, but it may do.

Simon.

Thanks  Simon, I will try that next.
J
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Re: [newbie] modem problems - speak slowly please

2004-08-06 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Fri, 2004-08-06 at 09:34, Julie Sloan wrote:
> Bryan Phinney wrote:
> 
> > http://pricewatch.com and search for external 56k modem and you will find a 
> > list of places that are currently selling a cendyne external serial modem for 
> > around $17 US.  Granted, that is not a top of the line modem, but it uses an 
> > equivalent chipset to a Zoom external serial modem version that costs about 
> > $60.  If you currently have a winmodem (crapmodem) and have always wanted to 
> > have a real honest to goodness external serial modem but are financially 
> > challenged, you might want to consider it.
> > 
> 
> Eeee - what about those of us that are financially challenged AND are 
> operating on only a checkbook (not a charge card)?  I'm *still* waiting 
> for a linux book I ordered from Amazon - which "should arrive on July 
> 19th."  Wonder did they mean 2005?  (sorry - veered way OT)
> 
> J

Believe methis is *not* OT yet. ;)

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Re: [newbie] modem problems - speak slowly please

2004-08-06 Thread Julie Sloan

Bryan Phinney wrote:
http://pricewatch.com and search for external 56k modem and you will find a 
list of places that are currently selling a cendyne external serial modem for 
around $17 US.  Granted, that is not a top of the line modem, but it uses an 
equivalent chipset to a Zoom external serial modem version that costs about 
$60.  If you currently have a winmodem (crapmodem) and have always wanted to 
have a real honest to goodness external serial modem but are financially 
challenged, you might want to consider it.

Eeee - what about those of us that are financially challenged AND are 
operating on only a checkbook (not a charge card)?  I'm *still* waiting 
for a linux book I ordered from Amazon - which "should arrive on July 
19th."  Wonder did they mean 2005?  (sorry - veered way OT)

J
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Re: [newbie] modem problems - speak slowly please

2004-08-06 Thread Julie Sloan

Bryan Phinney wrote:
On Friday 06 August 2004 05:54 am, simon wrote:
Julie, as the Mandrake Control Centre didn't recognise my hcf modem,
it would not configure my internet connection properly. I used Kppp
dialer instead and manually configured (most settings are default).

http://pricewatch.com and search for external 56k modem and you will find a 
list of places that are currently selling a cendyne external serial modem for 
around $17 US.  Granted, that is not a top of the line modem, but it uses an 
equivalent chipset to a Zoom external serial modem version that costs about 
$60.  If you currently have a winmodem (crapmodem) and have always wanted to 
have a real honest to goodness external serial modem but are financially 
challenged, you might want to consider it.

I know it is kind of OT but the last time I was in a computer store, they 
didn't even carry external serial modems, just the USB ones,

I gather serial vs USB is the keyword here?  (sorry - I'm *completely* 
ignorant.  People probably wonder why I'm not on AOL  :))

Thanks for the information  ...it so happens today we're leaving the 
"Small Town Where We Don't Lock the Doors" and going to "The Big City 
Where There's A Computer Store" and I *will* take the time to look over 
the external modems.

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Re: [newbie] modem problems - speak slowly please

2004-08-06 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Friday 06 August 2004 05:54 am, simon wrote:

> Julie, as the Mandrake Control Centre didn't recognise my hcf modem,
> it would not configure my internet connection properly. I used Kppp
> dialer instead and manually configured (most settings are default).

Thought that I would mention this really quickly.  

http://pricewatch.com and search for external 56k modem and you will find a 
list of places that are currently selling a cendyne external serial modem for 
around $17 US.  Granted, that is not a top of the line modem, but it uses an 
equivalent chipset to a Zoom external serial modem version that costs about 
$60.  If you currently have a winmodem (crapmodem) and have always wanted to 
have a real honest to goodness external serial modem but are financially 
challenged, you might want to consider it.

I know it is kind of OT but the last time I was in a computer store, they 
didn't even carry external serial modems, just the USB ones, and even those 
were priced fairly high.  $17 is just a tad higher than you would normally 
pay for a cheapo winmodem so I thought some others on the list (at least in 
the US) might be interested.  I didn't price intl shipping so I don't know if 
it would be suitable outside North America.
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Re: [newbie] modem problems - speak slowly please

2004-08-06 Thread simon
On Friday 06 Aug 2004 04:33, Julie Sloan wrote:

>
> now in GUI...
> in MCC -> hardware -> hardware ...the modem is *still* listed as
> "unknown device."
>
> in MCC -> network -> make new connection ...I tell it modem, com3
> (yes, 3), automatic on the IP, DNS, etc
>
Julie, as the Mandrake Control Centre didn't recognise my hcf modem, 
it would not configure my internet connection properly. I used Kppp 
dialer instead and manually configured (most settings are default). 
HTH.
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Re: [newbie] modem problems - speak slowly please

2004-08-06 Thread simon
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On Friday 06 Aug 2004 04:33, Julie Sloan wrote:

> The modem's a conexant hsf and I've d/l'd the apropriate driver
> from the linuxant site into the window$ partition
Hi Julie,
I have a Conexant modem running on Mdk10. It is an hcf modem and I 
also downloaded the driver from the Linuxant site.
I installed the rpm then as root ran hcfpciconfig which led me 
through the configuration. (Mandrake Control Centre still doesn't 
recognise my modem.)
I don't know whether this applies to hsf modems, but it may do.

Simon.

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Re: [newbie] modem problems - speak slowly please

2004-08-06 Thread Margot
Julie Sloan wrote:
Hi - my first post to this forum.  I've been trying to inhale all the 
information out there and so far have made it through just a few of the 
info  & man pages.

I'm on mandrake 10.0 official, got both KDE and Gnome running (but 
trying to make this work from the KDE GUI) dual booting with WinXP

The modem's a conexant hsf and I've d/l'd the apropriate driver from the 
linuxant site into the window$ partition

in my /etc/fstab there's already this line:
/dev/hda1 /mnt/windows ntfs umask=0,nls=iso8859-1,ro 0 0 none /proc proc 
defaults 0 0

and I can peek into the windoze partition from KDE
in terminal I copied the driver into a disposable directory, cd'd into 
the directory with it and did:
rpm -iv hsfverylongfilename.rpm

now in GUI...
in MCC -> hardware -> hardware ...the modem is *still* listed as 
"unknown device."

in MCC -> network -> make new connection ...I tell it modem, com3 (yes, 
3), automatic on the IP, DNS, etc

now get this:  I got a handshake, then an error message (The system 
doesn't seem to be connected to the internet.  Try to reconfigure your 
connection).  so I took the "@mindspring.com" off my login (what the 
hey, it's helped in netscape) and now I don't even get a handshake.  And 
the same error message.  Put the login back as it was and *still* get no 
handshake.  Fooled around with the authentication because I have no idea 
if I need PAP/CHAP (the default) or script based or what, and when I 
have it set to CHAP I once again get a handshake ...and the error message.

Can anyone see where I'm screwing up?
thanks
Julie
Julie
You have a winmodem. It is sometimes *possible* to get these working 
under Linux, but it takes a great deal of hard work (as you've 
already discovered)!

In the UK, high street electrical stores sell external modems for 
around £30 (probably even cheaper in the US - most things seem to 
be!) which will work fine under both Windows & Linux (the packaging 
might not even mention Linux, and the salespeople will probably 
never have heard of it!) - just take it out of the box, plug in both 
ends, reboot & both OSs should detect it automatically.

Or, you could spend many hours, possibly even days, trying to get a 
winmodem to work.

Time = money - but only you can work out whether it is worth 
spending several hours/days to save £30!

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Re: [newbie] modem problems - speak slowly please

2004-08-06 Thread Hoyt Bailey
On Thursday 05 August 2004 22:33, Julie Sloan wrote:
> Hi - my first post to this forum.  I've been trying to inhale all the
> information out there and so far have made it through just a few of
> the info  & man pages.
>
> I'm on mandrake 10.0 official, got both KDE and Gnome running (but
> trying to make this work from the KDE GUI) dual booting with WinXP
>
> The modem's a conexant hsf and I've d/l'd the apropriate driver from
> the linuxant site into the window$ partition
>
> in my /etc/fstab there's already this line:
> /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows ntfs umask=0,nls=iso8859-1,ro 0 0 none /proc
> proc defaults 0 0
>
> and I can peek into the windoze partition from KDE
>
> in terminal I copied the driver into a disposable directory, cd'd
> into the directory with it and did:
> rpm -iv hsfverylongfilename.rpm
>
> now in GUI...
> in MCC -> hardware -> hardware ...the modem is *still* listed as
> "unknown device."
>
> in MCC -> network -> make new connection ...I tell it modem, com3
> (yes, 3), automatic on the IP, DNS, etc
>
> now get this:  I got a handshake, then an error message (The system
> doesn't seem to be connected to the internet.  Try to reconfigure
> your connection).  so I took the "@mindspring.com" off my login (what
> the hey, it's helped in netscape) and now I don't even get a
> handshake.  And the same error message.  Put the login back as it was
> and *still* get no handshake.  Fooled around with the authentication
> because I have no idea if I need PAP/CHAP (the default) or script
> based or what, and when I have it set to CHAP I once again get a
> handshake ...and the error message.
>
> Can anyone see where I'm screwing up?
>
> thanks
> Julie
You have what is called a winmodem.  It is very difficult to get a 
winmodem to work in linux(for me impossible).  The best bet is to get a 
true modem and it will work in both windows and everything else.  The 
difference is that a winmodem does not have its own controller and must 
be managed by your CPU which takes considerable time while a true moden 
has its own controller and relives the CPU to do other things.  I doubt 
that you are screwing up at all windows has already done that for you.
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[newbie] modem problems - speak slowly please

2004-08-05 Thread Julie Sloan
Hi - my first post to this forum.  I've been trying to inhale all the 
information out there and so far have made it through just a few of the 
info  & man pages.

I'm on mandrake 10.0 official, got both KDE and Gnome running (but 
trying to make this work from the KDE GUI) dual booting with WinXP

The modem's a conexant hsf and I've d/l'd the apropriate driver from the 
linuxant site into the window$ partition

in my /etc/fstab there's already this line:
/dev/hda1 /mnt/windows ntfs umask=0,nls=iso8859-1,ro 0 0 none /proc proc 
defaults 0 0

and I can peek into the windoze partition from KDE
in terminal I copied the driver into a disposable directory, cd'd into 
the directory with it and did:
rpm -iv hsfverylongfilename.rpm

now in GUI...
in MCC -> hardware -> hardware ...the modem is *still* listed as 
"unknown device."

in MCC -> network -> make new connection ...I tell it modem, com3 (yes, 
3), automatic on the IP, DNS, etc

now get this:  I got a handshake, then an error message (The system 
doesn't seem to be connected to the internet.  Try to reconfigure your 
connection).  so I took the "@mindspring.com" off my login (what the 
hey, it's helped in netscape) and now I don't even get a handshake.  And 
the same error message.  Put the login back as it was and *still* get no 
handshake.  Fooled around with the authentication because I have no idea 
if I need PAP/CHAP (the default) or script based or what, and when I 
have it set to CHAP I once again get a handshake ...and the error message.

Can anyone see where I'm screwing up?
thanks
Julie
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Re: [newbie] modem problems

2003-01-20 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 20 Jan 2003 7:07 pm, you wrote:
> On Monday 20 January 2003 20:48, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > On Monday 20 Jan 2003 6:37 pm, Gil Katz wrote:
> > > Hi
> > > I installed new modem
> > > the problem is that when i connect to the internet 0 packets are going
> > > in and out or the modem hangs up and i get error 16 (i put the max
> > > timeout). now i only can connect through a network card that is
> > > connected to WinXP that is connected to the internet.
> > > i'm using Mandrake 9.0
> > > Gil
> >
> > Gil - I don't know how you're making your connection.  When I had dial-up
> > under 8.2 I used the desktop icon to connect.  On the dialogue box that
> > came up there was an option to open a log.  If that's still there, try
> > it, copy the output, and post it here.  It might help sort out what's
> > happening.
> >
> > Anne
>
> attach is the log file and screen shot of the pppd statistics
> Gil

Actually, I was thinking of the log information that gives out messages about 
dialling, waiting for connection, etc.  I could be wrong, but from looking at 
that screenshot I would suspect that you are not getting through the 
authentication process with your isp.  I have seen that sort of result 
through setting the wrong authentication process.  Do you know which protocol 
your isp uses?  If not, and if you can't get an internet connection on 
another computer to find out, try changing that setting and see if helps.

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Re: [newbie] modem problems

2003-01-20 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 20 Jan 2003 6:37 pm, Gil Katz wrote:
> Hi
> I installed new modem
> the problem is that when i connect to the internet 0 packets are going in
> and out or the modem hangs up and i get error 16 (i put the max timeout).
> now i only can connect through a network card that is connected to WinXP
> that is connected to the internet.
> i'm using Mandrake 9.0
> Gil

Gil - I don't know how you're making your connection.  When I had dial-up 
under 8.2 I used the desktop icon to connect.  On the dialogue box that came 
up there was an option to open a log.  If that's still there, try it, copy 
the output, and post it here.  It might help sort out what's happening.

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[newbie] modem problems

2003-01-20 Thread Gil Katz
Hi
I installed new modem
the problem is that when i connect to the internet 0 packets are going in and 
out or the modem hangs up and i get error 16 (i put the max timeout).
now i only can connect through a network card that is connected to WinXP that 
is connected to the internet.
i'm using Mandrake 9.0
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Re: [newbie] modem problems

2002-10-08 Thread Charlie

On Tuesday 08 October 2002 03:55 pm, Charles A Edwards wrote:
> On Tue, 08 Oct 2002 15:08:08 -0600
>
> Charlie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Damn!
> >
> > I hate it when that happens. Apparently that one will work Charles.
> >
> > I posted a link to a SourceForge page that seems to state that it will
> > anyway.
>
> I stand enlightened.
>
> I still say that with a AMR modem and a 6 pack of Moosehead you can enjoy a
> few good beers while thinking about that other piece of crap you have.
>
>
> Charles
>
> ---
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> corrupt.
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Mmm Moosehead! 
<\Homer voice>

LMAO Big Rock has a few good ones too.
http://www.bigrockbeer.com/

I still say that Canadian beer is better than the stuff made south of the 
border; but you need to go to Germany or Great Britain to find the *really* 
good stuff. 

I'm happy I don't often have to worry about modems. Impatient friends are 
pretty much standard here, and they're all on cable or dsl connections. :-)
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Re: [newbie] modem problems

2002-10-08 Thread Charles A Edwards

On Tue, 08 Oct 2002 15:08:08 -0600
Charlie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Damn! 
> 
> I hate it when that happens. Apparently that one will work Charles.
> 
> I posted a link to a SourceForge page that seems to state that it will
> anyway.

I stand enlightened.

I still that with a AMR modem and a 6 pack of Moosehead you can enjoy a
few good beers while thinking about that other piece of crap you have.


Charles

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Re: [newbie] modem problems

2002-10-08 Thread Charlie

On Tuesday 08 October 2002 02:43 pm, Charles A Edwards wrote:
> On Tue, 8 Oct 2002 13:32:27 -0700 (PDT)
>
> Akhil Deodhar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > my PCTel HSP56 AMR modem.
> > Does anyone have the drivers & know how to install
> > them? please let me know ASAP.
>
> AFAIK No AMR modem will work is linux.
> They are the truest and worst form of winmodem.
>
>
> Charles
>
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Damn! 

I hate it when that happens. Apparently that one will work Charles.

I posted a link to a SourceForge page that seems to state that it will anyway. 

I love Google. 
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Re: [newbie] modem problems

2002-10-08 Thread Charlie

On Tuesday 08 October 2002 02:32 pm, Akhil Deodhar wrote:
> i recently installed mandrake 9.0 beta. It detected
> all of my hardware except my PCTel HSP56 AMR modem.
> Does anyone have the drivers & know how to install
> them? please let me know ASAP.
> -Akhil

Try this link:
http://pctelcompdb.sourceforge.net/viewdetails.php?id_no=16

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Re: [newbie] modem problems

2002-10-08 Thread Charles A Edwards

On Tue, 8 Oct 2002 13:32:27 -0700 (PDT)
Akhil Deodhar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> my PCTel HSP56 AMR modem.
> Does anyone have the drivers & know how to install
> them? please let me know ASAP.

AFAIK No AMR modem will work is linux.
They are the truest and worst form of winmodem.


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[newbie] modem problems

2002-10-08 Thread Akhil Deodhar

i recently installed mandrake 9.0 beta. It detected
all of my hardware except my PCTel HSP56 AMR modem.
Does anyone have the drivers & know how to install
them? please let me know ASAP.
-Akhil


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Re: [newbie] Modem Problems

2000-12-28 Thread Carroll Grigsby

Ted-
Before you're going to get a response, the people on this list who can
give you some help need some hints, such as:
1. The header says "Modem Problems", but the message talks about a sound
card. In either case, we need to know which modem, which sound card,
which CPU, how much RAM, what other stuff you've got installed on your
system. It's OK to say that you're trying to dual boot Mandrake on top
of Windows.
2. What version of Mandrake Linux are you installing? The tweaks change
with the versions.
3. What have you tried so far? Your definition of "necessary" doesn't
seem to agree with the Penguin's idea.
Try reposting with more facts and symptoms.
Regards,
Carroll


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> 
> Having trouble with configuring my sound card.  I've made the
> necessary
> adjustments on the settings, but to no avail.




[newbie] Modem Problems

2000-12-26 Thread Ted426
Having trouble with configuring my sound card.  I've made the necessary adjustments on the settings, but to no avail.  


Re: [newbie] Modem problems :*(

2000-12-22 Thread Revenant

More information please.

What sort of modem is it?  Brand, model name, internal/external?

Mike wrote:
> 
> hi, ive just installed mandrake 7.1.
> my modem dont respond or anything what shall i do?
> thanks
> mike

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RE: [newbie] Modem problems :*(

2000-12-22 Thread Helsby, James

A little helpful advice. Post more information.

You most likely have a winmodem. Most winmodems will NOT work with linux.
They used a software based driver. They are pci. So if you have a pci modem.
It is most likely a winmodem. And will NOT work.



-Original Message-
From: Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2000 12:40 PM
To: Mandrake
Subject: [newbie] Modem problems :*(

hi, ive just installed mandrake 7.1.
my modem dont respond or anything what shall i do?
thanks
mike




[newbie] Modem problems :*(

2000-12-22 Thread Mike

hi, ive just installed mandrake 7.1.
my modem dont respond or anything what shall i do?
thanks
mike




Re: [newbie] Modem Problems :(

2000-09-18 Thread John Rye

Kandace Little wrote:
> 
> BTW - I can query the Modem in Linux and get a lot of
> those ATI commands as well. Thought this might be useful
> information as well..
> 
> Stephen
> 

Right now wee getting there.


>From the terminal mode in kppp type AT 
then ATM2L2 M2 turns the speaker on permanant
L2 sets volume to a medium level
Then ATDT xxx   Where xxx is your own phone number

What do you get.

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Re: [newbie] Modem Problems :(

2000-09-18 Thread Kandace Little



BTW - I can query the Modem in Linux and get a lot of
those ATI commands as well. Thought this might be useful
information as well..

Stephen





- Original Message -
From: "John Rye" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Kandace Little" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 7:42 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Modem Problems :(


> Kandace Little wrote:
>
> You'll have another message from me sent before I got to this one.
> ok - we'll work thru this one step at a time.
>
> > >  Firstly - how do know your modem is on com4?
> >
> > I looked it up under windows. Funny thing is there are two
> > of the same modem there. I delete one but it pops right
> > back up again. It is the pnp version I think since the name of
> > the modem is the same but with pnp added to it.
>
> OK
>
> does the list you see in control panel systems also show a device
> called HSF or similar???
>
> I have a sneaking feeling we are looking at a winmodem here..
>
> Could you try the following for me??
>
> While in windows
> Open up Hyperterminal (start --> program files --> accessories)
> You'll need to set up a dummy account - call it test or fred or
> rubbish or something.
>
> Once the terminal window has opened type the following commands
> and recort the results for me.
>
> AT (  = tap the 'enter/return key )
> ATI 
> ATI1 
> ATI2 
> ...
> and so on to
> ATI7 
>
> EXPECT to get some error messages back - they will be the simple word
> 'ERROR'
>
> What I'm looking for is the make and type of modem - usually this
> info shows up at ATI5, 6 & 7.
>
> >
> > Before you ask I can not disable pnp in the BIOS. I tried but
> > this compaq I bought will not let me do that. The BIOS is not
> > much use other then the simple stuff. I think it is great that they
> > do this for less experience people but I think they should have
> > an option that will let you at everything if you want it.
>
> OPPS. My experience with Compaqs has not been good... but I think
> there are utilities available within the windows environment to alter
> the bios settings. (some help here from someone else maybe?)
>
> > >  When you restart your machine from a cold boot you should see
> > >  a panel which shows serial and parallel device info. If you hit
> > >  the pause key on your keyboard you should be able to halt the boot
> > >  process so you can copy the data down. I want to know what your BIOS
> > >  tells us about your serial and parallel ports - ok?. You may
> > >  restart the boot process by tapping your space bar.
>
> opps - wrote that before I knew it was a Compaq we were dealing with.
> Once again I'm pretty sure we can locate the info we need with the
> on-board Compaq utility programs...
>
>
> > I did this and did not get any information on parallel ports. The
> > only things that showed up are my CD-Rom and Burner, built
> > in sound card (which does not work in Linux). It also says something
> > about a file that it can't find, I will be looking into that in the
morning.
>
> Ok - that's fine. It really helps to know what sorts of error messages
> come up - make a note of messeges about missing files they could be
> really importand in solving this windows or linux. Remember that during
> the bootup you can pause the display of messages my tapping the pause
> key on your keyboard.
>
> > In case you are wondering, I did disable the win98 logo so that I
> > could see everything as it boots up. :)
>
>
> Did you know that tapping your Escape key does the same thing???
>
> > >
> > >  Once again - what type of mouse do you have - serial or USB ?
> >
> > Nope, I have one of those ps2 mouse, Little round adaptor. Not
> > really sure what it would show up as in windows or Linux, maybe
> > a serial port? Could this be the problem?
>
> ah - little round sucker - that will be a PS2 rat - more than likely
> it's a serial PS2 port on Com1 (That would be ttyS0 in linux) so
> now we know that the modem must be assigned somewhere else than Com1
> or ttyS0.
>
> > >  for my old colour deficiant eyes...
> > Done, I am sorry if I hurt you eyes hehe.. it was not my intent.
Sometimes
> > I think this email internet thing is just one big pain in the butt. Then
> > again it is all this trying to figuring out things the makes me love it,
> > go figure.
>
> You beauty - now I can read it without any probs at all...
> >
> > Thank you for your help, I look forward to hearing from you again.
>
> Try this lot and we'll see if we can get you any closer - But we
> just might nee one of the lits' Compaq experts on board with us
> as well.
>
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>





Re: [newbie] Modem Problems :(

2000-09-18 Thread Kandace Little

> > >  Firstly - how do know your modem is on com4?
> >
> > I looked it up under windows. Funny thing is there are two
> > of the same modem there. I delete one but it pops right
> > back up again. It is the pnp version I think since the name of
> > the modem is the same but with pnp added to it.
>
> OK
>
> does the list you see in control panel systems also show a device
> called HSF or similar???

Nope what is say for them is this.
U.S Robotics 33.6k FAX EXT for one and the other one
say the same but with PNP added at the end.



>
> I have a sneaking feeling we are looking at a winmodem here..
>
> Could you try the following for me??
>
> While in windows
> Open up Hyperterminal (start --> program files --> accessories)
> You'll need to set up a dummy account - call it test or fred or
> rubbish or something.
>
> Once the terminal window has opened type the following commands
> and recort the results for me.
>
> AT (  = tap the 'enter/return key )
> ATI 
> ATI1 
> ATI2 
> ...
> and so on to
> ATI7 
>
> EXPECT to get some error messages back - they will be the simple word
> 'ERROR'
>
> What I'm looking for is the make and type of modem - usually this
> info shows up at ATI5, 6 & 7.



I received a bunch of stuff but the stuff I think you were looking for came
up as.
ATI3 - U.S Robot ics 33600 fax v5.6.1
ATI - (1.0usroo85\\Modem\PNPC107\U.S Robot ics 33600 FAX EXT) FF

There was also a configuration Profile but I did not think you wanted to
know
this information as of yet.




>
> >
> > Before you ask I can not disable pnp in the BIOS. I tried but
> > this compaq I bought will not let me do that. The BIOS is not
> > much use other then the simple stuff. I think it is great that they
> > do this for less experience people but I think they should have
> > an option that will let you at everything if you want it.
>
> OPPS. My experience with Compaqs has not been good... but I think
> there are utilities available within the windows environment to alter
> the bios settings. (some help here from someone else maybe?)


I would love any help  that is out there, I have not heard of such a program
but I will be calling Compaq today to find out.




>
> > >  When you restart your machine from a cold boot you should see
> > >  a panel which shows serial and parallel device info. If you hit
> > >  the pause key on your keyboard you should be able to halt the boot
> > >  process so you can copy the data down. I want to know what your BIOS
> > >  tells us about your serial and parallel ports - ok?. You may
> > >  restart the boot process by tapping your space bar.
>
> opps - wrote that before I knew it was a Compaq we were dealing with.
> Once again I'm pretty sure we can locate the info we need with the
> on-board Compaq utility programs...
>
>
> > I did this and did not get any information on parallel ports. The
> > only things that showed up are my CD-Rom and Burner, built
> > in sound card (which does not work in Linux). It also says something
> > about a file that it can't find, I will be looking into that in the
morning.
>
> Ok - that's fine. It really helps to know what sorts of error messages
> come up - make a note of messeges about missing files they could be
> really importand in solving this windows or linux. Remember that during
> the bootup you can pause the display of messages my tapping the pause
> key on your keyboard.


I will write it down on next boot to let you know what it was.


>
> > In case you are wondering, I did disable the win98 logo so that I
> > could see everything as it boots up. :)
>
>
> Did you know that tapping your Escape key does the same thing???

LOL. nope did not know that but thanks to this fine list I am learning
things
all the time ;)


>
> > >
> > >  Once again - what type of mouse do you have - serial or USB ?
> >
> > Nope, I have one of those ps2 mouse, Little round adaptor. Not
> > really sure what it would show up as in windows or Linux, maybe
> > a serial port? Could this be the problem?
>
> ah - little round sucker - that will be a PS2 rat - more than likely
> it's a serial PS2 port on Com1 (That would be ttyS0 in linux) so
> now we know that the modem must be assigned somewhere else than Com1
> or ttyS0.
>
> Try this lot and we'll see if we can get you any closer - But we
> just might nee one of the lits' Compaq experts on board with us
> as well.
>

Well I hope that one come along soon ;) (help) heh..

Thanks once again for all the great help, I am sure the problem will be
solved in no time.

Stephen


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>
>





Re: [newbie] Modem Problems :(

2000-09-14 Thread John Rye

> Kandace Little wrote:
> 
> Hello all.
> 
> My modem will not work no matter what  I do. I have followed
> some of the suggestion that come through the list but none
> worked. I thought I would tell you all what the problem is and
> maybe somebody could come up with something.
> 
> First about the modem:
> --
> It is a 33.6 USRobotics Faxmodem, External. There are a lot
> of switches on the back of it and I am not sure what they are for.
> I am going to list in order what they are for. Maybe this will help
> figure out why it won't work in Linux.
> 
> 1. UP - Data Terminal Ready normal
> Down - Data terminal ready override
> 
> 2. UP - Verbal result codes
>Down - Numeric result codes
> 
> 3. UP - Suppress results codes
> Down - Display results codes
> 
> 4. UP - ECHO offline commands
>Down - No echo, offline commands
> 
> 5. UP - Auto answer on the first ring, or higher if specified in NVRAM
>   Down - Auto answer off
> 
> 6. UP - Carrier detect normal
>Down - Carrier detect override
> 
> 7. UP- Load NVRAM defaults
>Down - Load factory defaults
> 
> 8. Up - Dumb mode
> Down - Smart mode
> 
> That is all for the modem now on to the problem..
> 


Leave those switches alone for the time being


> My modem is in COM4 but when I use kppp it tells me my modem
> is busy, not uncommon I see. when I switch the device to COM1 or
> ttyS0 it will say, Modem is ready then it stops on Initializing and
> goes no father. Even the query works when on ttyS0, not sure why.
> I did a /proc/pci and found out that my port is 0x1850 and the IRQ is
> 5.

Firstly - how do know your modem is on com4?

When you restart your machine from a cold boot you should see
a panel which shows serial and parallel device info. If you hit
the pause key on your keyboard you should be able to halt the boot
process so you can copy the data down. I want to know what your BIOS
tells us about your serial and parallel ports - ok?. You may
restart the boot process by tapping your space bar.

Once again - what type of mouse do you have - serial or USB ?

Try this and come back to us and we'll go from there


Cheers

John

Ps - could you disable the html in your mailer makes it a bit hard
for my old colour deficiant eyes...


> 
> all the stuff I tried is no longer there for I reloaded Linux just a
> few
> min. ago. I was wondering if I should of picked modem on Networking
> during the install ? Well if you can think of anything or would like
> me
> to type out what a certain program told me let me know, I will do it
> as fast as I can.
> 
> Thanks for you time in this matter for me.
> 
> OH, I tried to reg. my Linux and the mail bounced. I guess I will
> try it again but do any of you know if there is something wrong
> at the Mandrake site?
> 
> Next prob coming up :(
> 
> Stephen



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[newbie] Modem Problems :(

2000-09-14 Thread Kandace Little



Hello all.
 
My modem will not work no matter what  I do. 
I have followed
some of the suggestion that come through the list but none 
worked. I thought I would tell you all what the 
problem is and
maybe somebody could come up with 
something.
 
First about the modem:
--
It is a 33.6 USRobotics Faxmodem, External. There 
are a lot
of switches on the back of it and I am not sure 
what they are for.
I am going to list in order what they are for. 
Maybe this will help
figure out why it won't work in Linux.
 
1. UP - Data Terminal Ready normal
    Down - Data terminal ready 
override
 
2. UP - Verbal result codes
   Down - Numeric result 
codes
 
3. UP - Suppress results codes
    Down - Display 
results codes
 
4. UP - ECHO offline commands
   Down - No echo, offline 
commands
 
5. UP - Auto answer on the first ring, or higher if 
specified in NVRAM
  Down - Auto answer off
 
6. UP - Carrier detect normal
   Down - Carrier detect 
override
 
7. UP- Load NVRAM defaults
   Down - Load factory 
defaults
 
8. Up - Dumb mode
    Down - Smart mode
 
That is all for the modem now on to the 
problem..
 
My modem is in COM4 but when I use kppp it 
tells me my modem
is busy, not uncommon I see. when I switch the 
device to COM1 or
ttyS0 it will say, Modem is ready then it 
stops on Initializing and 
goes no father. Even the query works when on 
ttyS0, not sure why.
I did a /proc/pci and found out that my port 
is 0x1850 and the IRQ is
5.
 
all the stuff I tried is no longer there for I 
reloaded Linux just a few
min. ago. I was wondering if I should 
of picked modem on Networking
during the install ? Well if you can think of anything or would like me
to type out what a certain program told me let me 
know, I will do it
as fast as I can.
 
Thanks for you time in this matter for 
me.
 
OH, I tried to reg. my Linux and the mail bounced. 
I guess I will
try it again but do any of you know if there 
is something wrong 
at the Mandrake site?
 
Next prob coming up :(
 
Stephen 


Re: [newbie] Modem Problems

2000-09-08 Thread Renaud OLGIATI

On Fri, 08 Sep 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (pardon me, I misplaced your real name),
> How did you configure your voicemodem?  Since yours and mine are very 
> similar, I would expect your solution to work for me too.  My modem is a 3Com 
> / USRobotics, 56K, ISA (I forgot it was ISA, previously I wrongly stated it 
> was PCI), PnP, and a faxmodem.  "PnP aware o/s" was disabled in CMOS prior to 
> any LinuxMandrake installs.  Linux Mandrake's "isapnp" misdetects the modem's 
> interrupt (the modem operates on COM2 in Windoze (no change in modem 
> operating status or operation when going from motherboard CMOS PnP ON to 
> OFF)).  I went into the isapnp file to verify just what the errors related 
> to, and I confirmed the boot errors I was getting were from this modem 
> interrupt problem.  Even under these conditions, using minitel I sent an ATDT 
> to the modem and got a dial tone.  

I configured it by
-placing the jumpers to select the COM port and IRQ as used by the modem I
was replacing.
-booting W with the USR CDRom in the player
-letting it install a slew of modem-related software
-Saying Yes when it wanted to sdetect new hardware

It then started playing with itself for some time, while displaying
something like:
"Now configuring the modem, this wil take a few minutes"

When it was finished, I tried connecting from W and it worked; logged
off, rebooted Linux, tried to connect and it worked straight away.

Cheers,

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Re: [newbie] Modem Problems

2000-09-08 Thread GAPrichard

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (pardon me, I misplaced your real name),
How did you configure your voicemodem?  Since yours and mine are very 
similar, I would expect your solution to work for me too.  My modem is a 3Com 
/ USRobotics, 56K, ISA (I forgot it was ISA, previously I wrongly stated it 
was PCI), PnP, and a faxmodem.  "PnP aware o/s" was disabled in CMOS prior to 
any LinuxMandrake installs.  Linux Mandrake's "isapnp" misdetects the modem's 
interrupt (the modem operates on COM2 in Windoze (no change in modem 
operating status or operation when going from motherboard CMOS PnP ON to 
OFF)).  I went into the isapnp file to verify just what the errors related 
to, and I confirmed the boot errors I was getting were from this modem 
interrupt problem.  Even under these conditions, using minitel I sent an ATDT 
to the modem and got a dial tone.  
I've never had need to change a PnP device over.  If the card has to "be 
configured" when used as non-PnP then this is my problem, and it certainly 
makes sense in 20/20 hindsight.  I also wondered if I needed to "setserial" 
in Linux.  My new install of LinuxMandrake7.0 upgraded to 7.1 without 
incident.  I skipped any modem configuration, and at this point I have not 
yet even put in the symbolic link for the modem.  I'm at a clean starting 
place to do this right.  

By-the-way, webmaster, what are CNR and AMR slots?  I used to be a 
computer tech, but I'm getting our of date.
  -Gary-

In a message dated 9/7/2000 4:05:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< 
 Correct, PCI slots are usually white and the components mounted on the PCI
 board face away from the CPU.  ISA slots are usually black and the
 components on the ISA PCB board are mounted facing the direction of the CPU.
 AGP is brown and usually closest to the CPU (not to be confused with the
 brown CNR and AMR slots which are smaller than the PCI slots).
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Goldenpi
 Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 10:59 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Modem Problems
 
 
 PCI slots are the small card slots in your pc, as opposed to the older,
 bigger ISA slots.
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 10:51 PM
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Modem Problems
 
 
 > Is this a PCI modem?  What did you do to configure it?  I have a
 > USRobotics / 3Com internal modem, 56K PCI PnP faxmodem to deal with.  Last
 > time I tried (LinuxMandrake 7.0) isapnp detected it's configuration wrong
 &
 > stopped with error messages (including errors at boot).  Before I got back
 to
 > this I corrupted my LinuxMandrake install.  I have reinstalled LM 7.0 and
 > re-upgraded to 7.1 due to a problem with XFree86 which left the screen
 > illegible.
 > Please pardon the late reply, I'm still catching up with newbie
 emails.
 > -Gary-
 >
 > In a message dated 9/4/2000 8:44:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 >
 > <<
 >  I just got and installed a UsRobotics / 3Com internal modem, 56K
 voicefax,
 >  which runs fine under Linux; but I had to boot W once to configure
 it.
 >   >>
 >
  >>




RE: [newbie] Modem Problems

2000-09-07 Thread webmaster

Correct, PCI slots are usually white and the components mounted on the PCI
board face away from the CPU.  ISA slots are usually black and the
components on the ISA PCB board are mounted facing the direction of the CPU.
AGP is brown and usually closest to the CPU (not to be confused with the
brown CNR and AMR slots which are smaller than the PCI slots).

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Goldenpi
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 10:59 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Modem Problems


PCI slots are the small card slots in your pc, as opposed to the older,
bigger ISA slots.


- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 10:51 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Modem Problems


> Is this a PCI modem?  What did you do to configure it?  I have a
> USRobotics / 3Com internal modem, 56K PCI PnP faxmodem to deal with.  Last
> time I tried (LinuxMandrake 7.0) isapnp detected it's configuration wrong
&
> stopped with error messages (including errors at boot).  Before I got back
to
> this I corrupted my LinuxMandrake install.  I have reinstalled LM 7.0 and
> re-upgraded to 7.1 due to a problem with XFree86 which left the screen
> illegible.
> Please pardon the late reply, I'm still catching up with newbie
emails.
> -Gary-
>
> In a message dated 9/4/2000 8:44:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> <<
>  I just got and installed a UsRobotics / 3Com internal modem, 56K
voicefax,
>  which runs fine under Linux; but I had to boot W once to configure
it.
>   >>
>






Re: [newbie] Modem Problems

2000-09-07 Thread Goldenpi

PCI slots are the small card slots in your pc, as opposed to the older,
bigger ISA slots.


- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 10:51 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Modem Problems


> Is this a PCI modem?  What did you do to configure it?  I have a
> USRobotics / 3Com internal modem, 56K PCI PnP faxmodem to deal with.  Last
> time I tried (LinuxMandrake 7.0) isapnp detected it's configuration wrong
&
> stopped with error messages (including errors at boot).  Before I got back
to
> this I corrupted my LinuxMandrake install.  I have reinstalled LM 7.0 and
> re-upgraded to 7.1 due to a problem with XFree86 which left the screen
> illegible.
> Please pardon the late reply, I'm still catching up with newbie
emails.
> -Gary-
>
> In a message dated 9/4/2000 8:44:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> <<
>  I just got and installed a UsRobotics / 3Com internal modem, 56K
voicefax,
>  which runs fine under Linux; but I had to boot W once to configure
it.
>   >>
>





[Fwd: [newbie] Modem Problems]

2000-09-06 Thread Kathleen Dickason

whups.  meant this to go to the list. my bad!

--
Kathleen Dickason
Registered Linux user #182139





"Austin L. Denyer" wrote:

> > I am also a fan of das blinkenlights. :)
> >
> > I even know what some of them are for, at least on my Modem Blaster.
> Scary!
> > ;)
>
> LOL!
>
> I actually have the original "warning" that 'das blinkenlights' came
> from posted over my computer!  I used to have it over my servers at work
> too...
>
> I'd better shut up now - our age is showing #;-D
>
> Regards,
> Ozz.

Hehehehe.

Go you!

--
Kathleen Dickason, Ancient of Days
Registered Linux user #182139







Re: [newbie] Modem Problems

2000-09-06 Thread GAPrichard

Is this a PCI modem?  What did you do to configure it?  I have a 
USRobotics / 3Com internal modem, 56K PCI PnP faxmodem to deal with.  Last 
time I tried (LinuxMandrake 7.0) isapnp detected it's configuration wrong & 
stopped with error messages (including errors at boot).  Before I got back to 
this I corrupted my LinuxMandrake install.  I have reinstalled LM 7.0 and 
re-upgraded to 7.1 due to a problem with XFree86 which left the screen 
illegible.  
Please pardon the late reply, I'm still catching up with newbie emails.
-Gary-

In a message dated 9/4/2000 8:44:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< 
 I just got and installed a UsRobotics / 3Com internal modem, 56K voicefax,
 which runs fine under Linux; but I had to boot W once to configure it.
  >>




Re: [newbie] Modem Problems

2000-09-06 Thread Austin L. Denyer

> I am also a fan of das blinkenlights. :)
>
> I even know what some of them are for, at least on my Modem Blaster.
Scary!
> ;)

LOL!

I actually have the original "warning" that 'das blinkenlights' came
from posted over my computer!  I used to have it over my servers at work
too...

I'd better shut up now - our age is showing #;-D

Regards,
Ozz.





Re: [newbie] Modem Problems

2000-09-05 Thread Kathleen Dickason

I am also a fan of das blinkenlights. :)

I even know what some of them are for, at least on my Modem Blaster.  Scary!
;)

Kathleen

"John A. MacLaughlin" wrote:

> On Monday, September 04, 2000 7:36 PM, "Carroll Grigsby"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> speaking of external modems wrote in part,
> >
> >. In addition to the guaranteed compatibility with any operating system,
> > you get all those neat flashing lights.
> >
>
> Those neat flashing lights are a lot of what I loved about my Hayes
> Smartmodem 300.  Nowadays the only neat flashing lights I have
> are on my NICs.  When you see me looking at them you may be
> sure I have run out of hair to pull out.





Re: [newbie] Modem Problems

2000-09-05 Thread John A. MacLaughlin

On Monday, September 04, 2000 7:36 PM, "Carroll Grigsby"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
speaking of external modems wrote in part,
>
>. In addition to the guaranteed compatibility with any operating system,
> you get all those neat flashing lights.
>

Those neat flashing lights are a lot of what I loved about my Hayes
Smartmodem 300.  Nowadays the only neat flashing lights I have
are on my NICs.  When you see me looking at them you may be
sure I have run out of hair to pull out.







Re: [newbie] Modem Problems

2000-09-04 Thread Jason Ashman

On Mon, 04 Sep 2000, you wrote:
> Jason Ashman wrote:

> Jason:
> While many internal modems are winmodems -- especially the $39.95 blue
> light specials -- not all of them are. I have a Zoom 2919 ISA internal
> modem that works just fine. (I disabled the PnP feature and jumpered it
> to COM4, but I had to do that to get it to run under Windows. [It
> plugged OK, but it didn't Play!]) I also got an older Zoom modem -- with
> PnP enabled -- to work with Mandrake. 
> Unfortunately, one problem that newbies face is that most manufacturers
> (including Zoom) don't put anything on the box to indicate that their
> product will work with anything other than Windows. I agree with you
> that it would be best to get an external modem unless there is some
> compelling reason to go with an internal unit. In addition to the
> guaranteed compatibility with any operating system, you get all those
> neat flashing lights.
> -- Carroll Grigsby
-- 
The flashing lights are soothing :)
I use a Diamond SupraExpree 56K and it works perfectly in Linux, and even BeOS
when I gave that OS a shot.  


Jay
"Every man dies, not every man really lives."
http://www.mrsnooky.com





Re: [newbie] Modem Problems

2000-09-04 Thread John A. MacLaughlin

External is safe but not necessary.  There are internal modems (even PCI)
which
are full hardware modems.  The problem is identifying them; most
manufacturers
don't say which models are Winmodems & which are not, even on their
websites.

For a few weeks now there has been a fellow from OK on eBay offering used
USR Model 5610's at about $50 and claiming in all caps "not winmodem."

Anyone who is really desperate is invited to make me an offer for my genuine
Hayes Smartmodem 300.  It's as external as they get, & predates Windows.


- Original Message -
From: "Jason Ashman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 3:44 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Modem Problems


On Mon, 04 Sep 2000, you wrote:
> winmodem???!??!???!
> this is supposed to be linux bud
> now windows wont allways identify a modem off of a port so this is where
you
> manually install it using the disket that came with that thing. use add
hard
> ware and specify what it is
>
> as far as linux goes your sh** out of luck!
> winmodems are 100% compatible with windows and windose and did i mention
> windose??
--
But, very few winmodems have linux drivers available.  I suggest checking
the
manufacturer's website or any other Linux driver site and see if a driver is
available.  If not, fork up the bucks and get an external modem.  It is a
safe
assumption to say that the majority of internal modems are winmodems.

Jay
"Every man dies, not every man really lives."
http://www.mrsnooky.com







Re: [newbie] Modem Problems

2000-09-04 Thread markOpoleO

I got the new PCI Zoom Controler based (non-winmodem)Model 2920 and it works
like a charm in Linux and it is only 70 bucks.  In the box it even has
papers to help set it up in linux.

markOpoleO
- Original Message -
From: "Carroll Grigsby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 4:36 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Modem Problems


| Jason Ashman wrote:
| >
| > On Mon, 04 Sep 2000, you wrote:
| > > winmodem???!??!???!
| > > this is supposed to be linux bud
| > > now windows wont allways identify a modem off of a port so this is
where you
| > > manually install it using the disket that came with that thing. use
add hard
| > > ware and specify what it is
| > >
| > > as far as linux goes your sh** out of luck!
| > > winmodems are 100% compatible with windows and windose and did i
mention
| > > windose??
| > --
| > But, very few winmodems have linux drivers available.  I suggest
checking the
| > manufacturer's website or any other Linux driver site and see if a
driver is
| > available.  If not, fork up the bucks and get an external modem.  It is
a safe
| > assumption to say that the majority of internal modems are winmodems.
| >
| > Jay
| > "Every man dies, not every man really lives."
| > http://www.mrsnooky.com
| Jason:
| While many internal modems are winmodems -- especially the $39.95 blue
| light specials -- not all of them are. I have a Zoom 2919 ISA internal
| modem that works just fine. (I disabled the PnP feature and jumpered it
| to COM4, but I had to do that to get it to run under Windows. [It
| plugged OK, but it didn't Play!]) I also got an older Zoom modem -- with
| PnP enabled -- to work with Mandrake.
| Unfortunately, one problem that newbies face is that most manufacturers
| (including Zoom) don't put anything on the box to indicate that their
| product will work with anything other than Windows. I agree with you
| that it would be best to get an external modem unless there is some
| compelling reason to go with an internal unit. In addition to the
| guaranteed compatibility with any operating system, you get all those
| neat flashing lights.
| -- Carroll Grigsby
|





Re: [newbie] Modem Problems

2000-09-04 Thread Renaud OLGIATI

On Mon, 04 Sep 2000, Jason Ashman wrote:

> But, very few winmodems have linux drivers available.  I suggest checking the
> manufacturer's website or any other Linux driver site and see if a driver is
> available.  If not, fork up the bucks and get an external modem.  It is a safe
> assumption to say that the majority of internal modems are winmodems.

I just got and installed a UsRobotics / 3Com internal modem, 56K voicefax,
which runs fine under Linux; but I had to boot W once to configure it.

I'd say that unless your internal modem has jumpers to configure the IRQ
and IO adress, you will be out of luck ;-(

Cheers,

Ron the Frog, on the banks of the Paraguay River.

-- 
 
   A fanatic is a person who does what he knows God would do,
were God apprised of all the facts of the case.
 
  ---  http://personales.conexion.com.py/~rolgiati  ---
 




Re: [newbie] Modem Problems

2000-09-04 Thread Dennis Myers

I bought a Best Data Modem, it said right on the box "Linux Compatible".
I jumpered it to use tty2 and irq 4, works like a charm.  Got it from
CompUSA. They are out there and resrearching the hardware compatibility
database can be a big help in finding what you want. Good Luck.  Dennis

Carroll Grigsby wrote:
> 
> Jason Ashman wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 04 Sep 2000, you wrote:
> > > winmodem???!??!???!
> > > this is supposed to be linux bud
> > > now windows wont allways identify a modem off of a port so this is where you
> > > manually install it using the disket that came with that thing. use add hard
> > > ware and specify what it is
> > >
> > > as far as linux goes your sh** out of luck!
> > > winmodems are 100% compatible with windows and windose and did i mention
> > > windose??
> > --
> > But, very few winmodems have linux drivers available.  I suggest checking the
> > manufacturer's website or any other Linux driver site and see if a driver is
> > available.  If not, fork up the bucks and get an external modem.  It is a safe
> > assumption to say that the majority of internal modems are winmodems.
> >
> > Jay
> > "Every man dies, not every man really lives."
> > http://www.mrsnooky.com
> Jason:
> While many internal modems are winmodems -- especially the $39.95 blue
> light specials -- not all of them are. I have a Zoom 2919 ISA internal
> modem that works just fine. (I disabled the PnP feature and jumpered it
> to COM4, but I had to do that to get it to run under Windows. [It
> plugged OK, but it didn't Play!]) I also got an older Zoom modem -- with
> PnP enabled -- to work with Mandrake.
> Unfortunately, one problem that newbies face is that most manufacturers
> (including Zoom) don't put anything on the box to indicate that their
> product will work with anything other than Windows. I agree with you
> that it would be best to get an external modem unless there is some
> compelling reason to go with an internal unit. In addition to the
> guaranteed compatibility with any operating system, you get all those
> neat flashing lights.
> -- Carroll Grigsby

-- 
Dennis a registered linux user #180842




Re: [newbie] Modem Problems

2000-09-04 Thread Jason Ashman

On Mon, 04 Sep 2000, you wrote:
> winmodem???!??!???!
> this is supposed to be linux bud
> now windows wont allways identify a modem off of a port so this is where you 
> manually install it using the disket that came with that thing. use add hard 
> ware and specify what it is
> 
> as far as linux goes your sh** out of luck! 
> winmodems are 100% compatible with windows and windose and did i mention 
> windose??
-- 
But, very few winmodems have linux drivers available.  I suggest checking the
manufacturer's website or any other Linux driver site and see if a driver is
available.  If not, fork up the bucks and get an external modem.  It is a safe
assumption to say that the majority of internal modems are winmodems.

Jay
"Every man dies, not every man really lives."
http://www.mrsnooky.com





Re: [newbie] Modem Problems

2000-09-04 Thread Mwinold

winmodem???!??!???!
this is supposed to be linux bud
now windows wont allways identify a modem off of a port so this is where you 
manually install it using the disket that came with that thing. use add hard 
ware and specify what it is

as far as linux goes your sh** out of luck! 
winmodems are 100% compatible with windows and windose and did i mention 
windose??




Re: [newbie] Modem Problems

2000-09-04 Thread Kandace Little



I have a Sportster 33.6 but can not get windows to 
see it.
I am not sure what to do with it since I am not 
familiar with
external modems that attach through the LPT1 
port.
 
If any of you can help me get this thing working I 
would be
in your debt. :)
 
Stephen
 
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  dave 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2000 12:16 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [newbie] Modem 
Problems
  
  you may just want to get a new modem and save 
  yourself time and grief...which I did with a lucent winmodem with the driver 
  they released lot of time and grief...now works with a new sporster 
  modem
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Kandace Little 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2000 8:26 
PM
Subject: [newbie] Modem Problems

Ok, I have a Winmodem and I guess sometime down 
the
road I will have to get a new one but... I 
heard that PCTEL
(my modem) will work with Linux through a 
driver they re-
leased. I looked all over for the driver and 
can not find it.
I was at the linmodem.org site were they have a 
link to 
the driver page but the link was 
dead.
 
I was wondering if any of you know were I could 
get this
driver so that I can try this short term fix to 
my problem.
 
Thanks for you help in this for 
me.
 
Stephen


Re: [newbie] Modem Problems

2000-09-03 Thread dave



you may just want to get a new modem and save 
yourself time and grief...which I did with a lucent winmodem with the driver 
they released lot of time and grief...now works with a new sporster 
modem

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Kandace 
  Little 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2000 8:26 
  PM
  Subject: [newbie] Modem Problems
  
  Ok, I have a Winmodem and I guess sometime down 
  the
  road I will have to get a new one but... I heard 
  that PCTEL
  (my modem) will work with Linux through a driver 
  they re-
  leased. I looked all over for the driver and can 
  not find it.
  I was at the linmodem.org site were they have a 
  link to 
  the driver page but the link was 
  dead.
   
  I was wondering if any of you know were I could 
  get this
  driver so that I can try this short term fix to 
  my problem.
   
  Thanks for you help in this for me.
   
  Stephen


Re: [newbie] Modem Problems

2000-09-03 Thread Kandace Little

Thanks for the info.I found what I was looking for I think
For others that may want to try this the drivers are at
http://www.808hi.com/56k/badchips.htm and the driver
file is at http://www.netaxs.com/~bj/pctel.zip the ream me
files can be found at - http://www.netaxs.com/~bj/readme.txt

Thanks once again, I am sure I will be asking for some
help with the linmodem part of it soon enough ;(.

Stephen






- Original Message -
From: Christopher Mills Wolfe
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2000 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Modem Problems



- Original Message -
From: Kandace Little
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2000 12:26 PM
Subject: [newbie] Modem Problems


Ok, I have a Winmodem and I guess sometime down the
road I will have to get a new one but... I heard that PCTEL
(my modem) will work with Linux through a driver they re-
leased. I looked all over for the driver and can not find it.
I was at the linmodem.org site were they have a link to
the driver page but the link was dead.

I was wondering if any of you know were I could get this
driver so that I can try this short term fix to my problem.

Thanks for you help in this for me.

Stephen

If you can't find it on any of the other web pages in Mandrake try
www.google.com in your
browser. Try PCTEL LINUX DRIVER





Re: [newbie] Modem Problems

2000-09-03 Thread Christopher Mills Wolfe



 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Kandace 
  Little 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2000 12:26 
  PM
  Subject: [newbie] Modem Problems
  
  Ok, I have a Winmodem and I guess sometime down 
  the
  road I will have to get a new one but... I heard 
  that PCTEL
  (my modem) will work with Linux through a driver 
  they re-
  leased. I looked all over for the driver and can 
  not find it.
  I was at the linmodem.org site were they have a 
  link to 
  the driver page but the link was 
  dead.
   
  I was wondering if any of you know were I could 
  get this
  driver so that I can try this short term fix to 
  my problem.
   
  Thanks for you help in this for me.
   
  Stephen
   
  If you can't find it on any of the other web 
  pages in Mandrake try www.google.com in 
  your
  browser. Try PCTEL LINUX DRIVER 



[newbie] Modem Problems

2000-09-03 Thread Kandace Little



Ok, I have a Winmodem and I guess sometime down 
the
road I will have to get a new one but... I heard 
that PCTEL
(my modem) will work with Linux through a driver 
they re-
leased. I looked all over for the driver and can 
not find it.
I was at the linmodem.org site were they have a 
link to 
the driver page but the link was 
dead.
 
I was wondering if any of you know were I could get 
this
driver so that I can try this short term fix to my 
problem.
 
Thanks for you help in this for me.
 
Stephen


Re: [newbie] Modem Problems

2000-07-09 Thread Dennis Myers

I was fooling with the networking configurater and all of a sudden from
having a perfect Kppp modem set up I started getting exactly as described
below. So I went back in and took out all of the network config stuff and
rebooted and voila! I have my connection back. My suggestion is to go into
Drakconf and make sure all of the networking config is blank with the
exception of your NIC card config.  The  "routing and gateway" try blank as
well as anything else. I have'nt figured just how but somehow the loop back
or something is trying to talk to itself.  PPP0 can be configured too if you
want.



Steve Elliott wrote:

> I too have been battling a modem install under 7.1 all weekend. Tried
> all the timeout tricks on this list, tried the noauth option - still no
> go.
> In the end i had to download a program called qppp i think it was, and
> that did the trick once it was configured.
> But using either ppp under Linux conf, or gnome ppp, ( i installed from
> 2 cd iso set - maybe kppp does not come on that ? ) the ppp daemon died
> always. I think it seemed to be a problem with the PAP config, howver
> that seems to work fine under the program i downloaded.
> Any other battles like this ?
>
> Barry Premeaux wrote:
> >
> > Dariusz S Stochmal wrote:
> >
> > > I have installed Mandrake Linux 7.1 for the first time. During
> > > installation it detected my external modem, and it did setup my
> > > internet connection. My problem is that when I login into kde desktop,
> > > and use kppp tool (there is a icon on the desktop which says Internet
> > > and it looks something like Windows dialup connection) to dial to
> > > internet I can't connect. During connection process, there is a brief
> > > "handshaking" going on, and then my connection will drop and error
> > > appears "PPPD Demon Died Unexpectedly".
> > >
> > > Anybody with any ideas ? Is there other way for me to connect to
> > > Internet ?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Dariusz S Stochmal
> > >
> > > E-mail 1: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > E-mail 2: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > Home Page:http://www.stochmal.com/
> > >
> > Look under the Kppp Setup, you will find a wait time for the daemon.
> > The default setting is something like 30 seconds.  I extended the time
> > to 120 seconds which
> > which worked well for me.
> >
> > --
> > Barry :-)

--
Dennis-Registered Linux User #180842






Re: [newbie] Modem Problems

2000-07-09 Thread Steve Elliott

I too have been battling a modem install under 7.1 all weekend. Tried
all the timeout tricks on this list, tried the noauth option - still no
go.
In the end i had to download a program called qppp i think it was, and
that did the trick once it was configured. 
But using either ppp under Linux conf, or gnome ppp, ( i installed from
2 cd iso set - maybe kppp does not come on that ? ) the ppp daemon died
always. I think it seemed to be a problem with the PAP config, howver
that seems to work fine under the program i downloaded.
Any other battles like this ?

Barry Premeaux wrote:
> 
> Dariusz S Stochmal wrote:
> 
> > I have installed Mandrake Linux 7.1 for the first time. During
> > installation it detected my external modem, and it did setup my
> > internet connection. My problem is that when I login into kde desktop,
> > and use kppp tool (there is a icon on the desktop which says Internet
> > and it looks something like Windows dialup connection) to dial to
> > internet I can't connect. During connection process, there is a brief
> > "handshaking" going on, and then my connection will drop and error
> > appears "PPPD Demon Died Unexpectedly".
> >
> > Anybody with any ideas ? Is there other way for me to connect to
> > Internet ?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Dariusz S Stochmal
> >
> > E-mail 1: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > E-mail 2: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > Home Page:http://www.stochmal.com/
> >
> Look under the Kppp Setup, you will find a wait time for the daemon.
> The default setting is something like 30 seconds.  I extended the time
> to 120 seconds which
> which worked well for me.
> 
> --
> Barry :-)




Re: [newbie] Modem Problems

2000-07-09 Thread Harry Bush

Hi Charles,

Yes, my provider helpdesk says they do use PAP. Pls excuse unclear wording 
in my letter. As for trying each and any setting in all their 
combinations... well, I would prefer to know what I am doing and why, and 
my time is somehow limited... That's why I paid for "official" Mandrake 
hoping I would get some E-mail support.  Oh yes.

Besides, IMHO default configuration should work or at least be not too far 
from working one. And - yes, I do know about help button ;)  in more than 
just one or two different systems... Didn't find right answer there but 
sure tried before asking Support (which didn't answer) and now asking this 
group. As well as did several web searches and found lot's of questions 
about the same problem but quite few real answers... My guess is that lot's 
of potential Linux users might be scared away and not asking/trying anymore 
after being unable even do this simple thing - connect to their Internet 
providers using default (or close to default) configuration and methods.

Thanks for trying to help, anyway.

Harry

At 09:42 00.07.09.e -0400, you wrote:
>Harry
>   I might also help us to know what ISP you use.
>   You can not simply take the word of the person you spoke to at your ISP
>that PAP is "acceptable". They either use the PAP protocol or they don't. 5
>will get you 10 that if you tried each of the other settings as well as
>increasing the time-out value you Would find one that worked and from your
>log that is your problem.
>As for FAQ, when you were setting up your connection did you happen to
>notice a button in the bottom corner of the window labled Help and if you
>did, did you bother to use it.?
>
>Charles   :-)
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Harry Bush" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2000 8:34 AM
>Subject: Re: [newbie] Modem Problems
>
>
> > At 12:48 00.07.09.. +0200, Paul wrote:
> >
> > >On Sun, 9 Jul 2000, Dariusz S Stochmal wrote:
> > > >I have installed Mandrake Linux 7.1 for the first time. [...]
> > > >During connection process, there is a brief handshaking going on,
> > > >and then my connection will drop and error appears
> > > >PPPD Demon Died Unexpectedly.
> > >
> > >This has come up before on the list. Set your timeout value (or something
> > >like that) higher, from 60 to 400 seconds or so. That apparently is
> > >helping many people
> >
> > I have absolutely the same problem, and unfortunately increasing timeout
> > value to 400 doesn't help. Connection seems to start normally, then it
> > pauses for a while and brokes telling daemon has died suddenly. Kppp's
> > diagnosis is just "Sorry. Can't help you here" (how clear, isn't
> > it...)  PPP Logfile tells something also not fully understandable for me:
> >
> > Jul  8 14:14:18 linu2 pppd[4560]: By default the remote system is required
> > to authenticate itself
> > Jul  8 14:14:18 linu2 pppd[4560]: (because this system has a default route
> > to the internet)
> > Jul  8 14:14:18 linu2 pppd[4560]: but I couldn't find any suitable secret
> > (password) for it to use to do so.
> > Jul  8 14:14:18 linu2 pppd[4560]: (None of the available passwords would
> > let it use an IP address.)
> >
> > Username and password is definitely OK, I have repeatedly tested them.
> > Installation now is US English to avoid possible locale problems (there
>are
> > plenty of them in other parts of Mandrake). I haven't changed any other
> > kppp parameters besides Account name, Provider phone No., two DNS server
> > addresses given by provider, my username and password.  Now temporarily
> > also timeout value which didn't help. All other parameters set by Mandrake
> > installation seem to be OK. Dialing and modem handshake is OK. I use DHCP.
> > Provider confirms that PAP is allowed, however they don't have any Linux
> > specialists to help me. Modem is decent external USRobotics. All hardware
> > works OK on the same machine with Windows NT 4.0.  Besides, I can easily
> > connect same provider using same username and password in WinNT
>environment
> > on the same machine.
> >
> > Unfortunately Mandrake support is very slow to respond - if ever, don't
> > know, haven't received yet any reaction from them, being registered
> > Mandrake Essential 7.1 and Powerpack 7.0 user. Two questions, one for each
> > system, both are still unanswered. (so folks CD's from Cheapbytes are
> > absolutely as valuable as "official" box...) There is no FAQ on Mandrake

Re: [newbie] Modem Problems

2000-07-09 Thread Phil Burton


When I first started using Linux almost a year ago, like
everyone else I tried using kppp.  I found it generally
frustrating and useless, especially trying to configure a
PAP script thing that worked.  I gave up on that.  My only
suggestion to others with kppp problems is: dump it and use
wvdial.  wvdial is easy to install and use.  The program
senses what kind of handshake your provider wants and keeps
you connected.  Since wvdial is not on the Mandrake cd's you
will have to download an rpm version (I had to do this using
Windows when I started with Mandrake).  I forget the URL but
a search at Google for "wvdial" will lead one to water.

Now I have my computer configured to dial up when I boot
Linux, and it works like a charm.

Phil


On Sun, 9 Jul 2000, Harry Bush wrote:

» At 12:48 00.07.09.. +0200, Paul wrote:
» 
» >On Sun, 9 Jul 2000, Dariusz S Stochmal wrote:
» > >I have installed Mandrake Linux 7.1 for the first time. [...]
» > >During connection process, there is a brief handshaking going on,
» > >and then my connection will drop and error appears
» > >PPPD Demon Died Unexpectedly.
» >
» >This has come up before on the list. Set your timeout value (or something
» >like that) higher, from 60 to 400 seconds or so. That apparently is
» >helping many people
» 
» I have absolutely the same problem, and unfortunately increasing timeout 
» value to 400 doesn't help. Connection seems to start normally, then it 
» pauses for a while and brokes telling daemon has died suddenly. Kppp's 
» diagnosis is just "Sorry. Can't help you here" (how clear, isn't 
» it...)  PPP Logfile tells something also not fully understandable for me:
» 
» Jul  8 14:14:18 linu2 pppd[4560]: By default the remote system is required 
» to authenticate itself
» Jul  8 14:14:18 linu2 pppd[4560]: (because this system has a default route 
» to the internet)
» Jul  8 14:14:18 linu2 pppd[4560]: but I couldn't find any suitable secret 
» (password) for it to use to do so.
» Jul  8 14:14:18 linu2 pppd[4560]: (None of the available passwords would 
» let it use an IP address.)
» 
» Username and password is definitely OK, I have repeatedly tested them. 
» Installation now is US English to avoid possible locale problems (there are 
» plenty of them in other parts of Mandrake). I haven't changed any other 
» kppp parameters besides Account name, Provider phone No., two DNS server 
» addresses given by provider, my username and password.  Now temporarily 
» also timeout value which didn't help. All other parameters set by Mandrake 
» installation seem to be OK. Dialing and modem handshake is OK. I use DHCP. 
» Provider confirms that PAP is allowed, however they don't have any Linux 
» specialists to help me. Modem is decent external USRobotics. All hardware 
» works OK on the same machine with Windows NT 4.0.  Besides, I can easily 
» connect same provider using same username and password in WinNT environment 
» on the same machine.
» 
» Unfortunately Mandrake support is very slow to respond - if ever, don't 
» know, haven't received yet any reaction from them, being registered 
» Mandrake Essential 7.1 and Powerpack 7.0 user. Two questions, one for each 
» system, both are still unanswered. (so folks CD's from Cheapbytes are 
» absolutely as valuable as "official" box...) There is no FAQ on Mandrake 
» website either, even for 7.0 not to speak about 7.1 . Seems that popularity 
» is playing bad scaling games with Mandrake...  So hopefully somebody who 
» has already solved this dialup problem will please explain what to do.
» 
» One thing is sure - there definitely _is_ nasty Dialup problem in Mandrake 
» with default installation and it is more complex than just modem or timeout 
» settings. I have seen more then few people asking in networks about this 
» "suddenly dying" pppd but no working answers beyond "man pppd" - which 
» might be good way but not for the very first steps of newbie being cut off 
» from main info source, Internet, unable to connect his provider. I had to 
» re-install WinNT .
» 
» Harry




Re: [newbie] Modem Problems

2000-07-09 Thread Charles A Edwards

Harry
  I might also help us to know what ISP you use.
  You can not simply take the word of the person you spoke to at your ISP
that PAP is "acceptable". They either use the PAP protocol or they don't. 5
will get you 10 that if you tried each of the other settings as well as
increasing the time-out value you Would find one that worked and from your
log that is your problem.
   As for FAQ, when you were setting up your connection did you happen to
notice a button in the bottom corner of the window labled Help and if you
did, did you bother to use it.?

   Charles   :-)

- Original Message -
From: "Harry Bush" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2000 8:34 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Modem Problems


> At 12:48 00.07.09.. +0200, Paul wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 9 Jul 2000, Dariusz S Stochmal wrote:
> > >I have installed Mandrake Linux 7.1 for the first time. [...]
> > >During connection process, there is a brief handshaking going on,
> > >and then my connection will drop and error appears
> > >PPPD Demon Died Unexpectedly.
> >
> >This has come up before on the list. Set your timeout value (or something
> >like that) higher, from 60 to 400 seconds or so. That apparently is
> >helping many people
>
> I have absolutely the same problem, and unfortunately increasing timeout
> value to 400 doesn't help. Connection seems to start normally, then it
> pauses for a while and brokes telling daemon has died suddenly. Kppp's
> diagnosis is just "Sorry. Can't help you here" (how clear, isn't
> it...)  PPP Logfile tells something also not fully understandable for me:
>
> Jul  8 14:14:18 linu2 pppd[4560]: By default the remote system is required
> to authenticate itself
> Jul  8 14:14:18 linu2 pppd[4560]: (because this system has a default route
> to the internet)
> Jul  8 14:14:18 linu2 pppd[4560]: but I couldn't find any suitable secret
> (password) for it to use to do so.
> Jul  8 14:14:18 linu2 pppd[4560]: (None of the available passwords would
> let it use an IP address.)
>
> Username and password is definitely OK, I have repeatedly tested them.
> Installation now is US English to avoid possible locale problems (there
are
> plenty of them in other parts of Mandrake). I haven't changed any other
> kppp parameters besides Account name, Provider phone No., two DNS server
> addresses given by provider, my username and password.  Now temporarily
> also timeout value which didn't help. All other parameters set by Mandrake
> installation seem to be OK. Dialing and modem handshake is OK. I use DHCP.
> Provider confirms that PAP is allowed, however they don't have any Linux
> specialists to help me. Modem is decent external USRobotics. All hardware
> works OK on the same machine with Windows NT 4.0.  Besides, I can easily
> connect same provider using same username and password in WinNT
environment
> on the same machine.
>
> Unfortunately Mandrake support is very slow to respond - if ever, don't
> know, haven't received yet any reaction from them, being registered
> Mandrake Essential 7.1 and Powerpack 7.0 user. Two questions, one for each
> system, both are still unanswered. (so folks CD's from Cheapbytes are
> absolutely as valuable as "official" box...) There is no FAQ on Mandrake
> website either, even for 7.0 not to speak about 7.1 . Seems that
popularity
> is playing bad scaling games with Mandrake...  So hopefully somebody who
> has already solved this dialup problem will please explain what to do.
>
> One thing is sure - there definitely _is_ nasty Dialup problem in Mandrake
> with default installation and it is more complex than just modem or
timeout
> settings. I have seen more then few people asking in networks about this
> "suddenly dying" pppd but no working answers beyond "man pppd" - which
> might be good way but not for the very first steps of newbie being cut off
> from main info source, Internet, unable to connect his provider. I had to
> re-install WinNT .
>
> Harry
>
>
>




Re: [newbie] Modem Problems

2000-07-09 Thread Harry Bush

At 12:48 00.07.09.. +0200, Paul wrote:

>On Sun, 9 Jul 2000, Dariusz S Stochmal wrote:
> >I have installed Mandrake Linux 7.1 for the first time. [...]
> >During connection process, there is a brief handshaking going on,
> >and then my connection will drop and error appears
> >PPPD Demon Died Unexpectedly.
>
>This has come up before on the list. Set your timeout value (or something
>like that) higher, from 60 to 400 seconds or so. That apparently is
>helping many people

I have absolutely the same problem, and unfortunately increasing timeout 
value to 400 doesn't help. Connection seems to start normally, then it 
pauses for a while and brokes telling daemon has died suddenly. Kppp's 
diagnosis is just "Sorry. Can't help you here" (how clear, isn't 
it...)  PPP Logfile tells something also not fully understandable for me:

Jul  8 14:14:18 linu2 pppd[4560]: By default the remote system is required 
to authenticate itself
Jul  8 14:14:18 linu2 pppd[4560]: (because this system has a default route 
to the internet)
Jul  8 14:14:18 linu2 pppd[4560]: but I couldn't find any suitable secret 
(password) for it to use to do so.
Jul  8 14:14:18 linu2 pppd[4560]: (None of the available passwords would 
let it use an IP address.)

Username and password is definitely OK, I have repeatedly tested them. 
Installation now is US English to avoid possible locale problems (there are 
plenty of them in other parts of Mandrake). I haven't changed any other 
kppp parameters besides Account name, Provider phone No., two DNS server 
addresses given by provider, my username and password.  Now temporarily 
also timeout value which didn't help. All other parameters set by Mandrake 
installation seem to be OK. Dialing and modem handshake is OK. I use DHCP. 
Provider confirms that PAP is allowed, however they don't have any Linux 
specialists to help me. Modem is decent external USRobotics. All hardware 
works OK on the same machine with Windows NT 4.0.  Besides, I can easily 
connect same provider using same username and password in WinNT environment 
on the same machine.

Unfortunately Mandrake support is very slow to respond - if ever, don't 
know, haven't received yet any reaction from them, being registered 
Mandrake Essential 7.1 and Powerpack 7.0 user. Two questions, one for each 
system, both are still unanswered. (so folks CD's from Cheapbytes are 
absolutely as valuable as "official" box...) There is no FAQ on Mandrake 
website either, even for 7.0 not to speak about 7.1 . Seems that popularity 
is playing bad scaling games with Mandrake...  So hopefully somebody who 
has already solved this dialup problem will please explain what to do.

One thing is sure - there definitely _is_ nasty Dialup problem in Mandrake 
with default installation and it is more complex than just modem or timeout 
settings. I have seen more then few people asking in networks about this 
"suddenly dying" pppd but no working answers beyond "man pppd" - which 
might be good way but not for the very first steps of newbie being cut off 
from main info source, Internet, unable to connect his provider. I had to 
re-install WinNT .

Harry





Re: [newbie] Modem Problems

2000-07-09 Thread Paul

On Sun, 9 Jul 2000, Dariusz S Stochmal wrote:

>I have installed Mandrake Linux 7.1 for the first time. During installation
>it detected my external modem, and it did setup my internet connection. My
>problem is that when I login into kde desktop, and use kppp tool (there is a
>icon on the desktop which says Internet and it looks something like Windows
>dialup connection) to dial to internet I cant connect. During connection
>process, there is a brief handshaking going on, and then my connection
>will drop and error appears PPPD Demon Died Unexpectedly.
>
>Anybody with any ideas ? Is there other way for me to connect to Internet ?

This has come up before on the list. Set your timeout value (or something
like that) higher, from 60 to 400 seconds or so. That apparently is
helping many people

Paul

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as there is gain in every loss...

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[newbie] Modem Problems

2000-07-09 Thread Dariusz S Stochmal








I have installed Mandrake Linux 7.1 for the first time. During
installation it detected my external modem, and it did setup my internet connection.
My problem is that when I login into kde desktop, and use kppp tool (there is a
icon on the desktop which says Internet and it looks something like Windows
dialup connection) to dial to internet I can’t connect. During connection
process, there is a brief “handshaking” going on, and then my connection will
drop and error appears “PPPD Demon Died Unexpectedly”.

 

Anybody with any ideas ? Is there other way for me to connect to Internet
?

 

Regards,

 

Dariusz S Stochmal

E-mail 1: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

E-mail 2: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Home Page:http://www.stochmal.com/

 








Re: [newbie] Modem problems

2000-06-01 Thread Corrado / Prometheus The Gifter

Edison Gica wrote:

> I setup my external modem and it was identified by LM however everytime I
> connect it always gives me "PPP timed out".
>
> Thanks for ur help.
>
> edison
> 
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Try select "Configuration", then"Device" and increase the "Timeout modem"
time set by default; then in "PPP" do the same in that "Timeout" box as
well. I was forced to choose at least 120 seconds for both, now everything
works fine!

Corrado.




RE: [newbie] Modem problems

2000-05-31 Thread Jose M. Sanchez

Either you don't have your chat script properly set up... you may be VERY
close...

Or your ISP is using chap/pap authentication and you have not set it up.

-JMS


-Original Message-
From: Edison Gica [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 6:32 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] Modem problems


I setup my external modem and it was identified by LM however everytime I
connect it always gives me "PPP timed out".

Thanks for ur help.

edison

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[newbie] Modem problems

2000-05-30 Thread Edison Gica

I setup my external modem and it was identified by LM however everytime I 
connect it always gives me "PPP timed out".

Thanks for ur help.

edison

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[newbie] modem problems under 6.1

2000-03-14 Thread dubydawg none

I am using a newcom 33.6ifxc modem, I set up the ppp connection and when I 
try to connect says modem is busy. Is my modem just not compatible under 
this software or do I need to edit a configuration file?
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Re: [newbie] Modem Problems

2000-01-19 Thread Chris Reeder

After reinstalling 6.1 the other day, I had the same problem--  modem busy.  . 
Cause:  I had forgotten to add 
#setserial /dev/modem uart 16550A port 0x6200 irq 11  
as directed in my modem's user manual (Actiontec 56k PCI call waiting modem)
to my /etc/rc.d/rc.local
file.  I don't know what the numbers mean except the irq, but they might be
different for you.  

On Tue, 18 Jan 2000, you wrote: > I did
everything you guys said, now I have "modem busy" > with Kppp. > When I do a
"uname -r", I get "2.2.5-15BOOT" > When I do a "uname -m", I get "i686" > when
I cat /etc/mandrake-release I get  > "Linux Mandrake release 6.1 (Helios)"
> 
> I have a Gateway pentium III 450 and windows98 and Linux
> and 64MB of RAM.
> and I changed the config.sys so to boot either
> from linux or windows by using "loadlin vmlinuz..."
> 
> I will appreciate all help.
-- 
Logging Out...



Re: [newbie] Modem Problems

2000-01-19 Thread Jon Schwartze

You think!?  If you would have readthen you'd see thats why I bought a PCI 
modem...I
know the winmodem wont work, and never will
Thanks for your input though

JON

"{{{ J.P.}}}" wrote:
> 
> WINMODEMS are NOT supported by Linux and never will be... See their web
> page
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jon Schwartze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2000 9:16 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [newbie] Modem Problems
> 
> hey man,
> I'm having the exact same problem as you.  What kind of modem do you have?
> I have a
> WINMODEM, and an Internal PCI modem, both of which..Dont work (of course
> the winmodem
> wont work, thats why I bought the PCI one).   I've been on this list a
> few days now,
> and everybody I have asked says to buy an External modem. Preferably U.S.
> Robotics
> 
> Hope that helps :)
> JON
> *Linux-Mandrake 6.5*
> 
> Abdoul Da Man wrote:
> >
> > I did everything you guys said, now I have "modem busy"
> > with Kppp.
> > When I do a "uname -r", I get "2.2.5-15BOOT"
> > When I do a "uname -m", I get "i686"
> > when I cat /etc/mandrake-release I get
> > "Linux Mandrake release 6.1 (Helios)"
> >
> > I have a Gateway pentium III 450 and windows98 and Linux
> > and 64MB of RAM.
> > and I changed the config.sys so to boot either
> > from linux or windows by using "loadlin vmlinuz..."
> >
> > I will appreciate all help.



RE: [newbie] Modem Problems

2000-01-19 Thread {{{ J.P.}}}

WINMODEMS are NOT supported by Linux and never will be... See their web
page

-Original Message-
From: Jon Schwartze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2000 9:16 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Modem Problems


hey man,
I'm having the exact same problem as you.  What kind of modem do you have?
I have a
WINMODEM, and an Internal PCI modem, both of which..Dont work (of course
the winmodem
wont work, thats why I bought the PCI one).   I've been on this list a
few days now,
and everybody I have asked says to buy an External modem. Preferably U.S.
Robotics

Hope that helps :)
JON
*Linux-Mandrake 6.5*

Abdoul Da Man wrote:
>
> I did everything you guys said, now I have "modem busy"
> with Kppp.
> When I do a "uname -r", I get "2.2.5-15BOOT"
> When I do a "uname -m", I get "i686"
> when I cat /etc/mandrake-release I get
> "Linux Mandrake release 6.1 (Helios)"
>
> I have a Gateway pentium III 450 and windows98 and Linux
> and 64MB of RAM.
> and I changed the config.sys so to boot either
> from linux or windows by using "loadlin vmlinuz..."
>
> I will appreciate all help.



Re: [newbie] Modem Problems

2000-01-18 Thread Jonathan Primeau

Hi,

I just want to say that Winmodem are not supported by Linux and they
will NEVER be supported. I read that in a HOWTO about configuring modems
in Linux... Whatever, I don't suggest you to buy another modem, choose
rather a faster connection.

By the way, I'm new here :)
Jonathan


Jon Schwartze wrote:
> 
> hey man,
> I'm having the exact same problem as you.  What kind of modem do you have?  
>I have a
> WINMODEM, and an Internal PCI modem, both of which..Dont work (of course the 
>winmodem
> wont work, thats why I bought the PCI one).   I've been on this list a few days 
>now,
> and everybody I have asked says to buy an External modem. Preferably U.S. Robotics
> 
> Hope that helps :)
> JON
> *Linux-Mandrake 6.5*
> 
> Abdoul Da Man wrote:
> >
> > I did everything you guys said, now I have "modem busy"
> > with Kppp.
> > When I do a "uname -r", I get "2.2.5-15BOOT"
> > When I do a "uname -m", I get "i686"
> > when I cat /etc/mandrake-release I get
> > "Linux Mandrake release 6.1 (Helios)"
> >
> > I have a Gateway pentium III 450 and windows98 and Linux
> > and 64MB of RAM.
> > and I changed the config.sys so to boot either
> > from linux or windows by using "loadlin vmlinuz..."
> >
> > I will appreciate all help.



Re: [newbie] Modem Problems!!!

2000-01-18 Thread Andy Foote

i don't have a winmodem and im getting that same problem!  argh!  does
someone know why "the modem is busy" when we try to get it working?

ive got a us robotics isa modem



Re: [newbie] Modem Problems

2000-01-18 Thread Jon Schwartze

hey man, 
I'm having the exact same problem as you.  What kind of modem do you have?  I 
have a
WINMODEM, and an Internal PCI modem, both of which..Dont work (of course the 
winmodem
wont work, thats why I bought the PCI one).   I've been on this list a few days 
now,
and everybody I have asked says to buy an External modem. Preferably U.S. Robotics

Hope that helps :)
JON
*Linux-Mandrake 6.5*

Abdoul Da Man wrote:
> 
> I did everything you guys said, now I have "modem busy"
> with Kppp.
> When I do a "uname -r", I get "2.2.5-15BOOT"
> When I do a "uname -m", I get "i686"
> when I cat /etc/mandrake-release I get
> "Linux Mandrake release 6.1 (Helios)"
> 
> I have a Gateway pentium III 450 and windows98 and Linux
> and 64MB of RAM.
> and I changed the config.sys so to boot either
> from linux or windows by using "loadlin vmlinuz..."
> 
> I will appreciate all help.



[newbie] Modem Problems

2000-01-18 Thread Abdoul Da Man

I did everything you guys said, now I have "modem busy"
with Kppp.
When I do a "uname -r", I get "2.2.5-15BOOT"
When I do a "uname -m", I get "i686"
when I cat /etc/mandrake-release I get 
"Linux Mandrake release 6.1 (Helios)"

I have a Gateway pentium III 450 and windows98 and Linux
and 64MB of RAM.
and I changed the config.sys so to boot either
from linux or windows by using "loadlin vmlinuz..."

I will appreciate all help.



Re: [newbie] Modem Problems

1999-12-31 Thread David Trimmer

Yeah, try a steamroller then buy a U.S. Robotics. You won't be sorry.
- Original Message - 
From: Jennifer Ricki Wise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, December 30, 1999 11:32 PM
Subject: [newbie] Modem Problems


> I just purchased an Actiontec modem that says it is good for dos, win
> 3.1, 95, nt and linux.
> I installed according to the instructions using kddp. 
> When querying the modem I either receive that the modem cannot be found
> or its busy.
> I've reloaded linux twice so far.
> Anyone have any ideas. I'm at wits end.
> Thanks
> Jennifer



Re: [newbie] Modem Problems

1999-12-31 Thread M Thompson

Follow John's suggestions first.  After figuring which COM port you are 
using, setup KPPP according to the following:
/dev/ttyS0 = COM1
/dev/ttyS1 = COM2
/dev/ttyS2 = COM3
/dev/ttyS3 = COM4


HTH,
Matt

>From: John Aldrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [newbie] Modem Problems
>Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 09:36:36 -0500
>
>On Thu, 30 Dec 1999, you wrote:
> > I just purchased an Actiontec modem that says it is good for dos, win
> > 3.1, 95, nt and linux.
> > I installed according to the instructions using kddp.
> > When querying the modem I either receive that the modem cannot be found
> > or its busy.
> > I've reloaded linux twice so far.
> > Anyone have any ideas. I'm at wits end.
> >
>Internal? If so, what com port do you have it on? Also, if
>it's on com 1 or com 2, do you have the on-board com ports
>enabled in BIOS? If so, and you're using one of those com
>ports for the internal modem, you need to disable the one
>that's duplicating the internal modem. i.e. your modem is
>using com 2, you need to disable the on-board com 2. Also,
>if using com3 or com4, you could have an IRQ conflict as
>com1 & 3 share an IRQ and com2 & 4 share an irq. Either
>relocate the IRQ for the internal modem or disable the
>conflicting COM port.
>If it's an external, ignore everything I just said. :-)
>John

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Re: [newbie] Modem Problems

1999-12-31 Thread John Aldrich

On Thu, 30 Dec 1999, you wrote:
> I just purchased an Actiontec modem that says it is good for dos, win
> 3.1, 95, nt and linux.
> I installed according to the instructions using kddp. 
> When querying the modem I either receive that the modem cannot be found
> or its busy.
> I've reloaded linux twice so far.
> Anyone have any ideas. I'm at wits end.
>
Internal? If so, what com port do you have it on? Also, if
it's on com 1 or com 2, do you have the on-board com ports
enabled in BIOS? If so, and you're using one of those com
ports for the internal modem, you need to disable the one
that's duplicating the internal modem. i.e. your modem is
using com 2, you need to disable the on-board com 2. Also,
if using com3 or com4, you could have an IRQ conflict as
com1 & 3 share an IRQ and com2 & 4 share an irq. Either
relocate the IRQ for the internal modem or disable the
conflicting COM port.
If it's an external, ignore everything I just said. :-)
John



[newbie] Modem Problems

1999-12-30 Thread Jennifer Ricki Wise

I just purchased an Actiontec modem that says it is good for dos, win
3.1, 95, nt and linux.
I installed according to the instructions using kddp. 
When querying the modem I either receive that the modem cannot be found
or its busy.
I've reloaded linux twice so far.
Anyone have any ideas. I'm at wits end.
Thanks
Jennifer



Re: [newbie] modem problems

1999-09-04 Thread John Aldrich

On Sat, 04 Sep 1999, you wrote:
> I am running Mandrake 6.0. I have tried repeatedly, but unsuccessfully to
> get my modem working. My modem is on Com4 under Windows,  but I cannot
> find it under Linux. I try to find it on /dev/ttyS3. I do get a modem
> ready when I do a query, but there are no ATI commands. I have tried
> changing the CR/LF, but that doesn't work either. What should I try next.
> My modem is not a win modem.
>
Brand and model of modem? Also, is it a PCI modem? If so, it may not
be a WinModem  but it may be an HSP or other type of
"Sofware" modem.
John



[newbie] modem problems

1999-09-04 Thread brian1151

I am running Mandrake 6.0. I have tried repeatedly, but unsuccessfully to
get my modem working. My modem is on Com4 under Windows,  but I cannot
find it under Linux. I try to find it on /dev/ttyS3. I do get a modem
ready when I do a query, but there are no ATI commands. I have tried
changing the CR/LF, but that doesn't work either. What should I try next.
My modem is not a win modem.
Thanks



Re: [newbie] Modem problems. - Motorola VoiceSufer?

1999-08-18 Thread James Schofield

At 04:58 PM 8/18/99 +, you wrote:
>  Before you do anything fancy for the sound card, try this:   

>linux 1 
>When booted, typesndconfig 

>Civileme 


ok, I will give that a try.. but what does the run level 1 do for me that a
std boot would not?

James



Re: [newbie] Modem problems. - Motorola VoiceSufer?

1999-08-18 Thread Civileme


Before you do anything fancy for the sound card, try this:
LILO Boot:  linux 1
When booted, type
bash#]   sndconfig
Civileme
James Schofield wrote:
ok, I have been trying everything I can think of
to get this and my SB64pci
working.. (Both are PNP)
No go.
I notice that my mandrake install did not install isapnptools when I
went
looking for it.
I might try a reinstall.
But I also found this out in WINDOHS!
My modem is at Com3 IRQ 11    and my sound card is sharing
a pci IRQ 9
with my LPT2 port which is also pci.. I have been told that pci devices
sharing irqs is not a problem with win.. what about linux?
James

-- 
Rejoice, the wait for Windows 2000 is over!
http://www.ms-windows-2000.com/
 


[newbie] Modem problems. - Motorola VoiceSufer?

1999-08-18 Thread James Schofield


ok, I have been trying everything I can think of to get this and my SB64pci
working.. (Both are PNP)

No go.

I notice that my mandrake install did not install isapnptools when I went
looking for it.

I might try a reinstall.

But I also found this out in WINDOHS! 

My modem is at Com3 IRQ 11    and my sound card is sharing a pci IRQ 9
with my LPT2 port which is also pci.. I have been told that pci devices
sharing irqs is not a problem with win.. what about linux?

James



Re: [newbie] Modem problems. - Motorola Voice Sufer?

1999-08-17 Thread Theo Brinkman

Dan Brown wrote:
> 
> From: Joseph Gardner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> > Interesting, I thought I was using 2.2.?? (linux-mandrake 6.0(venus))
> and it gives me the
> > choice of cuaX and ttySX from the kppp dialer.
> 
> Interesting...  Linus's release notes for the 2.2.x kernel say that
> it's stopped supporting the cua devices.  Does mandrake make links
> instead?

I thought the cua's  were just there for backward compatibility cases,
and they were going to be removed completely in 2.4.x or some such.

- Theo



Re: [newbie] Modem problems. - Motorola Voice Sufer?

1999-08-16 Thread Steve Philp

Dan Brown wrote:
> 
> From: Joseph Gardner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> > Interesting, I thought I was using 2.2.?? (linux-mandrake 6.0(venus))
> and it gives me the
> > choice of cuaX and ttySX from the kppp dialer.
> 
> Interesting...  Linus's release notes for the 2.2.x kernel say that
> it's stopped supporting the cua devices.  Does mandrake make links
> instead?

2.2.x issues warning shots in the system logs about the use of cua*
devices.  2.4.x will probably just do away with the things (though I
haven't seen any patches on the kernel list for it).

-- 
Steve Philp
Network Administrator
Advance Packaging Corp.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: [RE: [newbie] Modem problems. - Motorola Voice Sufer?]

1999-08-16 Thread Steve Philp

Michael Scottaline wrote:
> 
> Joseph Gardner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> If memory serves my correctly the Voice Surfer is an external modem??  If so
> then use the kppp dialer and under the Device tab select the cua2 not the
> ttys2 (cua is for and external device)


I'm not sure who gave you that information, but it's decidedly
incorrect.  In earlier kernels, there WAS a difference between the
setups done for ttyS* and cua* devices.  However, cua* devices have been
deprecated by the 2.2.x line of kernels -- check your logs when using
them, you'll see warnings that list the application that is using the
device.

So please, everyone, stick to ttyS* devices and just throw cua* stuff
out of your mind.

> > I run my USR on ttyS0 and it works just fine.  My understanding (admittedly
> > rather limited ;o)) is that ttyS is replacing cua, interanl or external.
> > Someone please correct me if I goofed.  8^)
> > > Does anyone know of any Known problems installing this modem on Linux?
> > > 
> > > I can get it to detect that there is a modem - but it cannot seem to
> > > operate it. ttys2 is com3 correct? that is what the settings are in Windows
> > > Com3 irq2
> > > 
> > > ANyone successfully installed this modem, can give me a hand??

Use setserial like this and you should be up and running:

setserial /dev/ttyS2 irq 9

IRQ 2 cascades to IRQ 9, so that's what you need to tell it to use. 
Once you get it running, just add the setserial line to the end of your
/etc/rc.d/rc.local and it'll be run automatically each time you boot.

-- 
Steve Philp
Network Administrator
Advance Packaging Corp.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: [RE: [newbie] Modem problems. - Motorola Voice Sufer?]

1999-08-16 Thread Michael Scottaline

Joseph Gardner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
James,

If memory serves my correctly the Voice Surfer is an external modem??  If so
then use the kppp dialer and under the Device tab select the cua2 not the
ttys2 (cua is for and external device)


Regards,

Joseph Gardner
Senior Designer / Technical Support
Kirby Company
Cleveland, OH 
===

I run my USR on ttyS0 and it works just fine.  My understanding (admittedly
rather limited ;o)) is that ttyS is replacing cua, interanl or external. 
Someone please correct me if I goofed.  8^)


-Original Message-
From:   James Schofield [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Monday, August 16, 1999 11:37 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:    [newbie] Modem problems. - Motorola Voice Sufer?

Does anyone know of any Known problems installing this modem on Linux?

I can get it to detect that there is a modem - but it cannot seem to
operate it. ttys2 is com3 correct? that is what the settings are in Windows
Com3 irq2

ANyone successfully installed this modem, can give me a hand??

Thanks

James


> - 
>   Attachment: application/ms-tnef 
>   MIME Type: application/ms-tnef 
> - 



RE: [newbie] Modem problems. - Motorola Voice Sufer?

1999-08-16 Thread Joseph Gardner

Interesting, I thought I was using 2.2.?? (linux-mandrake 6.0(venus)) and it gives me 
the choice of cuaX and ttySX from the kppp dialer.
 
Regards,

Joseph Gardner
Senior Designer / Technical Support
Kirby Company
Cleveland, OH



-Original Message-
From:   Dan Brown [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Monday, August 16, 1999 1:33 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: [newbie] Modem problems. - Motorola Voice Sufer?

Joseph Gardner wrote:

> If memory serves my correctly the Voice Surfer is an external modem??  If so
> then use the kppp dialer and under the Device tab select the cua2 not the
> ttys2 (cua is for and external device)

Not so.  It doesn't matter whether you're using internal or external
devices; if you're using kernel 2.2.x, you need to use ttyS*, because
the kernel's done away with the cua* devices.  If you're using 2.0.x,
you can use cua*, but ttyS* is a better choice, because it leaves the
door open for upgrades.

--
Dan Brown, KE6MKS, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good
with ketchup.

 application/ms-tnef


Re: [newbie] Modem problems. - Motorola Voice Sufer?

1999-08-16 Thread Dan Brown

Joseph Gardner wrote:

> If memory serves my correctly the Voice Surfer is an external modem??  If so
> then use the kppp dialer and under the Device tab select the cua2 not the
> ttys2 (cua is for and external device)

Not so.  It doesn't matter whether you're using internal or external
devices; if you're using kernel 2.2.x, you need to use ttyS*, because
the kernel's done away with the cua* devices.  If you're using 2.0.x,
you can use cua*, but ttyS* is a better choice, because it leaves the
door open for upgrades.

--
Dan Brown, KE6MKS, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good
with ketchup.



Re: [newbie] Modem problems. - Motorola Voice Sufer?

1999-08-16 Thread James Schofield

At 04:56 PM 8/16/99 +0100, you wrote:
>
>Irq2 is your interrupt controller. I normally disable one of the com
>ports in bios and use that for the modem ie ttyS1/irq3 (com2 in dos).
>
>hih
>nick@nexnix
>

Thanks for the suggestion nick, but the win98 that I am running on my
primary drive (there are two in the machine) is running without a flaw(I
know I know.. hard to beleive!) soo I am not interested in making bios
changes with the com ports and rearranging devices on my machine.

I would rather just like to get Linux to work correctly with the Modem on
Com3 irq2  ttys2 would be the device I know.. 

Some have suggested I play with minicom first to get the modem working
there.. then when I have.. I can get back into Kppp and set it up.


James




Re: [newbie] Modem problems. - Motorola Voice Sufer?

1999-08-16 Thread alann

James Schofield wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know of any Known problems installing this modem on Linux?
> 
> I can get it to detect that there is a modem - but it cannot seem to
> operate it. ttys2 is com3 correct? that is what the settings are in Windows
> Com3 irq2
> 
> ANyone successfully installed this modem, can give me a hand??
> 
> Thanks
> 
> James
 at a command line ( terminal ) type
man setserial.

Alan

-- 
===
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] )
Coming to you with Linux-Mandrake 6.0



RE: [newbie] Modem problems. - Motorola Voice Sufer?

1999-08-16 Thread Joseph Gardner

James,

If memory serves my correctly the Voice Surfer is an external modem??  If so then use 
the kppp dialer and under the Device tab select the cua2 not the ttys2 (cua is for and 
external device)


Regards,

Joseph Gardner
Senior Designer / Technical Support
Kirby Company
Cleveland, OH 


-Original Message-
From:   James Schofield [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Monday, August 16, 1999 11:37 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:[newbie] Modem problems. - Motorola Voice Sufer?

Does anyone know of any Known problems installing this modem on Linux?

I can get it to detect that there is a modem - but it cannot seem to
operate it. ttys2 is com3 correct? that is what the settings are in Windows
Com3 irq2

ANyone successfully installed this modem, can give me a hand??

Thanks

James


 application/ms-tnef


Re: [newbie] Modem problems. - Motorola Voice Sufer?

1999-08-16 Thread Nick Kay

At 11:37 16/08/99 -0400, you wrote:
>Does anyone know of any Known problems installing this modem on Linux?
>
>I can get it to detect that there is a modem - but it cannot seem to
>operate it. ttys2 is com3 correct? that is what the settings are in Windows
>Com3 irq2
>
>ANyone successfully installed this modem, can give me a hand??
>
>Thanks
>
>James
>

Irq2 is your interrupt controller. I normally disable one of the com
ports in bios and use that for the modem ie ttyS1/irq3 (com2 in dos).

hih
nick@nexnix


>
>
>



[newbie] Modem problems. - Motorola Voice Sufer?

1999-08-16 Thread James Schofield

Does anyone know of any Known problems installing this modem on Linux?

I can get it to detect that there is a modem - but it cannot seem to
operate it. ttys2 is com3 correct? that is what the settings are in Windows
Com3 irq2

ANyone successfully installed this modem, can give me a hand??

Thanks

James




Re: [newbie] Modem problems. Looks like a bug in Mandrake 6.0

1999-08-12 Thread Brian Leas

You may try the new knetwork upgrade >
kdenetwork-1.1.1final-7mdk.i586.rpm .

It is on the Mandrake Updates site.

Brian


> Yes, I was able to dial out at will mutiple times. Even after rebooting.
> The modem is PNP (no jumpers). I am assuming this is a bug because I notice
> other folks reporting similar problems on linux related news groups. Looks
> like a trend to me.
> 
> So what do you think?
> 

> >



Re: [newbie] Modem problems. Looks like a bug in Mandrake 6.0

1999-08-11 Thread The Postman

Yes, I was able to dial out at will mutiple times. Even after rebooting.
The modem is PNP (no jumpers). I am assuming this is a bug because I notice
other folks reporting similar problems on linux related news groups. Looks
like a trend to me.

So what do you think?



At 11:37 PM 8/11/99 -0400, you wrote:
>Were you able to dial out at will, multiple times in a row, and it failed
only
>after the running of sndconfig? I ask because I've seen modems that work once
>fine but will not hang up the line. The only "fix" was a power cycle (then
one
>dial out, then failure). When you rebooted, did you just type reboot or
did you
>power down?
>
>This is most likely not the problem, but I thought I'd pass it on.
>
>By the way is a pnp modem or a jumpered modem?
>
>On Wed, 11 Aug 1999, you wrote:
>> When I install Linux-Mandrake, I set up the modem first under KPPP. The
>> device is set to ttyS1. Then I set up the rest of my PPP seatings. I then
>> am able to successfully dial my ISP. The modem (sportster 56K internal)
>> works GREAT!
>> 
>> The next step in setting up mandrake is setting up the sound. So I type
>> /usr/sbin/sndconfig and the system automatically detects my sound card and
>> sets it up. Then it says that the file /etc/conf.modules already exists and
>> backs it up as /etc/conf.modules.bak. That's it. My PnP SB16 sound card is
>> setup and works GREAT.
>> 
>> Now the modem doesn't work after setting up the sound card. I keep getting
>> "modem is busy" and I can't dial out. The sound card and the modem DO NOT
>> share the same resources. I did not EVER have this problem in Mandrake 5.3.
>> 
>> I deleted /etc/conf.modules and replaced it with /etc/conf.modules.bak and
>> renamed it accordingly. The modem still don't work. Even after rebooting.
>> What do I need to do to fix this mess?
>> 
>> Postman
>--
>Brett Jones
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 



[newbie] Modem problems. Looks like a bug in Mandrake 6.0

1999-08-11 Thread The Postman

When I install Linux-Mandrake, I set up the modem first under KPPP. The
device is set to ttyS1. Then I set up the rest of my PPP seatings. I then
am able to successfully dial my ISP. The modem (sportster 56K internal)
works GREAT!

The next step in setting up mandrake is setting up the sound. So I type
/usr/sbin/sndconfig and the system automatically detects my sound card and
sets it up. Then it says that the file /etc/conf.modules already exists and
backs it up as /etc/conf.modules.bak. That's it. My PnP SB16 sound card is
setup and works GREAT.

Now the modem doesn't work after setting up the sound card. I keep getting
"modem is busy" and I can't dial out. The sound card and the modem DO NOT
share the same resources. I did not EVER have this problem in Mandrake 5.3.

I deleted /etc/conf.modules and replaced it with /etc/conf.modules.bak and
renamed it accordingly. The modem still don't work. Even after rebooting.
What do I need to do to fix this mess?

Postman



RE: [newbie] Modem Problems

1999-08-11 Thread Joseph Gardner

Does every thing in the /etc/ dir get run at boot up ???

Regards,

Joseph Gardner


-Original Message-
From:   Hoyt [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Wednesday, August 11, 1999 11:33 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: [newbie] Modem Problems 


- Original Message - 
From: sinx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 1999 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Modem Problems 


> Ok, is it not a winmodem, and not a pci bus modem, it's isa. When I did the
> 'setserial /dev/ttyS2' it said irq4, I noticed though, that my modem is on
> irq10, is that the problem? How can it be changed?

You may leave it on irq 10. Looking at man setserial gives us an answer. Using

setserial /dev/ttyS2 irq 10

should do it. Then try 

setserial /dev/ttyS2 

and you should see that it shows irq 10.

Then try kppp again using /dev/ttyS2 as the modem device. If it works, you can add the 
line 

setserial /dev/ttyS2 irq 10 

to /etc/rc.local or create a new file called /etc/rc.serial and put it there so it 
runs at startup every time. If you create rc.serial, make certain that the file 
permission are the same as rc.local.

Hoyt

 application/ms-tnef


Re: [newbie] Modem Problems

1999-08-11 Thread Hoyt


- Original Message - 
From: sinx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 1999 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Modem Problems 


> Ok, is it not a winmodem, and not a pci bus modem, it's isa. When I did the
> 'setserial /dev/ttyS2' it said irq4, I noticed though, that my modem is on
> irq10, is that the problem? How can it be changed?

You may leave it on irq 10. Looking at man setserial gives us an answer. Using

setserial /dev/ttyS2 irq 10

should do it. Then try 

setserial /dev/ttyS2 

and you should see that it shows irq 10.

Then try kppp again using /dev/ttyS2 as the modem device. If it works, you can add the 
line 

setserial /dev/ttyS2 irq 10 

to /etc/rc.local or create a new file called /etc/rc.serial and put it there so it 
runs at startup every time. If you create rc.serial, make certain that the file 
permission are the same as rc.local.

Hoyt



Re: [newbie] Modem Problems

1999-08-10 Thread Brian Leas

> sinx wrote:
> 
> I just installed Madrake 6.0, running KDE, I used kdeppp and tried to
> setup my modem, which is a U.S. Robotics 56k Internal Fax Modem, on
> COM3, but I couldn't seem to set it up right, I always got errors like
> "modem is busy" or "can't open modem"
> Does anyone know what settings I should use for the modem? Or if I
> have to download some linux drivers for it? Thanks.
> 
> 
I just had a similar problem with the same type of modem.  I had to set
the jumpers on the modem for com 2 irq 3 to get linux to use it.  Now
Winblows 95 wont install it on COM 2.  So change the jumpers to COM2
IRQ3 and set kppp to use /dev/ttys1 and you should be okay.



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