[newbie] Star Office 6.0
Sirs, Can anyone sell me Star Office 6.0 please. Please let me know how much it will cost. Thank you in anticipation, -- Malcolm Candlish [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Star Office 6.0
On Saturday 29 March 2003 10:31 pm, Malcolm Candlish wrote: Sirs, Can anyone sell me Star Office 6.0 please. Please let me know how much it will cost. Thank you in anticipation, Malcom, it costs about $80 US last I looked but you get it as part of the ML 9.1 power Pack for $69 US if you want to wait or get the 9.0 power pack that is available now from MandrakeSoft. Also it is available through Mandrake Club as a free download for the second level membership. Think that is the silver membership. HTH -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Star Office 6.0
9.1 power Pack for $69 US if you want to wait or get the 9.0 power pack that is available now from MandrakeSoft. Also it is available through Mandrake Club as a free download for the second level membership. Think that is the silver membership. HTH i haven't really looked on the cds yet, but the website says 9.0 has staroffice and 9.1 has openoffice. huff Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Star Office 6.0
$50 at half.com. This is the same guy I bought it from last month for the same price. http://half.ebay.com/cat/buy/prod.cgi?cpid=1106392416domain_id=2265meta_id=5 Miark On Sun, 30 Mar 2003 10:18:11 -0800 eric huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 9.1 power Pack for $69 US if you want to wait or get the 9.0 power pack that is available now from MandrakeSoft. Also it is available through Mandrake Club as a free download for the second level membership. Think that is the silver membership. HTH i haven't really looked on the cds yet, but the website says 9.0 has staroffice and 9.1 has openoffice. huff Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Star Office 6.0
On Sunday 30 March 2003 01:18 pm, eric huff wrote: 9.1 power Pack for $69 US if you want to wait or get the 9.0 power pack that is available now from MandrakeSoft. Also it is available through Mandrake Club as a free download for the second level membership. Think that is the silver membership. HTH i haven't really looked on the cds yet, but the website says 9.0 has staroffice and 9.1 has openoffice. huff your right, maybe they dropped it on the commercial CD cause of cost. No biggie OO is just as good. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Star Office 6.0
On Sun, 2003-03-30 at 13:31, Malcolm Candlish wrote: Sirs, Can anyone sell me Star Office 6.0 please. Please let me know how much it will cost. Thank you in anticipation, You should be able to get Star Office 6.0 directly from Sun - so if you go to the Star Office homesite/portal, you should be able to get the necessary information - or be able to directly download it. http://www.staroffice.com/ Check it out! What, you don't like Open Office? -- Mon Mar 31 05:25:00 EST 2003 05:25:00 up 9 days, 17:12, 2 users, load average: 0.22, 0.22, 0.18 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * MDK 9.1 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting machine no:194239 * RH 7.3 * Sales - Service - Support - Tutor -- ** This messages was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer ** He who laughs has not yet heard the bad news. -- Bertolt Brecht Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Star Office Or OO.org can't save /wrong parameter
Ühel kenal päeval (pühapäev, 2. märts 2003 06:34) kirjutas Bob Read: I've been thru the books and searched back posts but no help. I can't seem to get Star Office or OO.org installed properly! Every time I try to save a file I get a message like can't save. Program started under wrong parameter. Could someone steer me to some info on how to initialize SO/OO for an installation with several users on one machine, each using their own space? I've just installed LM9.0 on a new machine with several users, but haven't initiallized them yet. I'd really like to get it right this time. Much Thanks, Bob First, as root: setup -net Then hit setup again as user. Wahur Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Star Office Or OO.org can't save /wrong parameter
First, as root: setup -net Then hit setup again as user. Also DL the latest updates from Sun for SO6. http://sunsolve.sun.com/pub-cgi/show.pl?target=patches/xprod-StarOfficenav= pub-patches Is the site to DL the updates. Roc Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Star Office Or OO.org can't save /wrong parameter
I've been thru the books and searched back posts but no help. I can't seem to get Star Office or OO.org installed properly! Every time I try to save a file I get a message like can't save. Program started under wrong parameter. Could someone steer me to some info on how to initialize SO/OO for an installation with several users on one machine, each using their own space? I've just installed LM9.0 on a new machine with several users, but haven't initiallized them yet. I'd really like to get it right this time. Much Thanks, Bob -- Bob Read // Registered Linux user #287118 http://www.cyberhymnal.org/htm/b/e/bestill.htm Soli Deo Gloria-Solus Christus-Sola Gratia-Sola Fide-Sola Scriptura The Church of The Master [Baptist] Providence, Rhode Island http://users.ids.net/~bobread/cotm.htm Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Star Office Or OO.org can't save /wrong parameter
On Saturday 01 March 2003 11:34 pm, Bob Read wrote: I've been thru the books and searched back posts but no help. I can't seem to get Star Office or OO.org installed properly! Every time I try to save a file I get a message like can't save. Program started under wrong parameter. Could someone steer me to some info on how to initialize SO/OO for an installation with several users on one machine, each using their own space? I've just installed LM9.0 on a new machine with several users, but haven't initiallized them yet. I'd really like to get it right this time. All I have ever done is start the program when logged in as each user. A configuration directory wil be created in each users ~/ so individual settings can be saved. I think on 9.0 it is ~/.openoffice for OO.o and ~/staroffice6.0 for Staroffice. -- Greg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Star Office Patch
Following the problems I've had recently, I found that there is a patch available, so I downloaded it. On installation I got error messages like An error occurred while unpacking the file basicsrvweb.zip. There is probably not enough disk space. This is unlikely. Has anyone else installed this patch? Does anyone know what may have caused the problem. I have probably messed up the original one now, so I'll have to uninstall and start again, but I would like to know whether it is worth trying the patch again. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Star Office Patch
On Monday 27 Jan 2003 9:51 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Mon, 2003-01-27 at 19:33, Anne Wilson wrote: Following the problems I've had recently, I found that there is a patch available, so I downloaded it. On installation I got error messages like An error occurred while unpacking the file basicsrvweb.zip. There is probably not enough disk space. This is unlikely. Has anyone else installed this patch? Does anyone know what may have caused the problem. I have probably messed up the original one now, so I'll have to uninstall and start again, but I would like to know whether it is worth trying the patch again. Anne If it's in a ZIP file, I'd be suss about it being for maybe Windows instead of for linux... That's a point. There was one for Windows, but I definitely selected the Linux one. I think I'll just check out whether the win offered file is the same filename. Surely not ??? Sun are only human, but I think this has been out for a good while, so I wouldn't have thought so. Anyway, I'll check again, and maybe download again, just to be sure. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Star Office Patch - Incredible
On Monday 27 Jan 2003 8:33 am, Anne Wilson wrote: Following the problems I've had recently, I found that there is a patch available, so I downloaded it. On installation I got error messages like An error occurred while unpacking the file basicsrvweb.zip. There is probably not enough disk space. This is unlikely. Has anyone else installed this patch? Does anyone know what may have caused the problem. I have probably messed up the original one now, so I'll have to uninstall and start again, but I would like to know whether it is worth trying the patch again. Anne My attempt at installing the patch were late last night, so I packed it in for the night, expecting to have to uninstall the whole shebang and start afresh. This afternoon, however, out of curiosity I fired up StarWriter, expecting it to crash, but it didn't. What's more, the files that had been showing up the problem would load correctly, I could copy and paste all I liked, and the whole thing looks stable! I haven't tried the other components yet, as I don't use them as much. I'm going to go back to the website and see if another download will give me a cleaner install, but this result is amazing. I can only suppose that the relevant bug fix was among the bits in managed to install. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Star Office beats me
On Thursday 23 Jan 2003 3:33 am, erylon hines wrote: On Wednesday 22 January 2003 06:47 am, you wrote: The spontaneous logouts were causing havoc in my file, as every backup was resulting in yet another corrupted file - at least that's what it looks like. Are you backing up to another machine over a network? I had a bad NIC that caused spontaneous reboots--took me a month to figure out what hardware was doing it. I found that I could get the behavior almost always if I transferred files across the network. Sometimes I could even reboot my machine by transferring files to it from another workstation. I think you have a hardware problem--not software. Bad memory, bad NIC, something. Not nic, I think - network is no problem, even for big files. But hardware, yes, I think it must be. Am investigating. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Star Office beats me
The spontaneous logouts were causing havoc in my file, as every backup was resulting in yet another corrupted file - at least that's what it looks like. I decided to split the file, reasoning that if I took out all the info about ImageMagic use it would halve the size of it :) All went well, and SOWriter was noticeably quicker in response as the file size went down, until they were both near equal size. I was cutting and pasting, so both had to be open at once. Then I hit real trouble. Both halves started behaving the same way. I gave up on Open Office last year because it seems so unstable, and this is exactly the same. Now I need to know whether it is the file that is the problem, or something here in my installation or hardware. Is anyone who uses SO or OOo willing to take one of the files and try to open it to see what happens? It doesn't seem to put any of your other files at risk. You would need to open it, navigate it a bit, copy and paste to an empty file, and so on, to see if it behaves. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Star Office beats me
Anne, Send it to me. Tony. -Original Message- From: Anne Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 2:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Star Office beats me The spontaneous logouts were causing havoc in my file, as every backup was resulting in yet another corrupted file - at least that's what it looks like. I decided to split the file, reasoning that if I took out all the info about ImageMagic use it would halve the size of it :) All went well, and SOWriter was noticeably quicker in response as the file size went down, until they were both near equal size. I was cutting and pasting, so both had to be open at once. Then I hit real trouble. Both halves started behaving the same way. I gave up on Open Office last year because it seems so unstable, and this is exactly the same. Now I need to know whether it is the file that is the problem, or something here in my installation or hardware. Is anyone who uses SO or OOo willing to take one of the files and try to open it to see what happens? It doesn't seem to put any of your other files at risk. You would need to open it, navigate it a bit, copy and paste to an empty file, and so on, to see if it behaves. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either Tony S. Sykes or the postmaster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com http://www.bcpsoftware.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Star Office beats me This is off list now
On Wednesday 22 Jan 2003 3:04 pm, you wrote: Is anyone who uses SO or OOo willing to take one of the files and try to open it to see what happens? It doesn't seem to put any of your other files at risk. You would need to open it, navigate it a bit, copy and paste to an empty file, and so on, to see if it behaves. No problem Anne... send it Thanks to both et and Tony. I have sent both a copy, and will now wait for their findings. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Star Office beats me This is off list now
On Wednesday 22 January 2003 10:02 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 22 Jan 2003 3:04 pm, you wrote: Is anyone who uses SO or OOo willing to take one of the files and try to open it to see what happens? It doesn't seem to put any of your other files at risk. You would need to open it, navigate it a bit, copy and paste to an empty file, and so on, to see if it behaves. No problem Anne... send it Thanks to both et and Tony. I have sent both a copy, and will now wait for their findings. Anne If I try and open (without saving) it I get an error that I captured and attached. attachment: Graphicserrorswx.jpgattachment: Graphicserror2swx.jpgWant to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Star Office beats me This is off list now
Dammn as I was repling a car hit a pole about three block from here,,, did not make the power go out but sure was enough to go for a quick shutdown... I can open it in SO if I have saved it to the home folder On Wednesday 22 January 2003 10:02 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 22 Jan 2003 3:04 pm, you wrote: Is anyone who uses SO or OOo willing to take one of the files and try to open it to see what happens? It doesn't seem to put any of your other files at risk. You would need to open it, navigate it a bit, copy and paste to an empty file, and so on, to see if it behaves. No problem Anne... send it Thanks to both et and Tony. I have sent both a copy, and will now wait for their findings. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Star Office beats me This is off list now
S Sorry everyone...this should not have gotten back ON list Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Star Office beats me
Is anyone who uses SO or OOo willing to take one of the files and try to open it to see what happens? It doesn't seem to put any of your other files at risk. You would need to open it, navigate it a bit, copy and paste to an empty file, and so on, to see if it behaves. Anne I wanna try :o) Damian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Star Office beats me
Do you have SO6 installed? I havent had a problem with mine. I will be happy to try the files. I have SO6 and OOo so i can test it in both. Just send the files. Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Anne Wilson Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 8:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Star Office beats me The spontaneous logouts were causing havoc in my file, as every backup was resulting in yet another corrupted file - at least that's what it looks like. I decided to split the file, reasoning that if I took out all the info about ImageMagic use it would halve the size of it :) All went well, and SOWriter was noticeably quicker in response as the file size went down, until they were both near equal size. I was cutting and pasting, so both had to be open at once. Then I hit real trouble. Both halves started behaving the same way. I gave up on Open Office last year because it seems so unstable, and this is exactly the same. Now I need to know whether it is the file that is the problem, or something here in my installation or hardware. Is anyone who uses SO or OOo willing to take one of the files and try to open it to see what happens? It doesn't seem to put any of your other files at risk. You would need to open it, navigate it a bit, copy and paste to an empty file, and so on, to see if it behaves. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Star Office beats me
On Wednesday 22 Jan 2003 4:47 pm, Robert Wideman wrote: Do you have SO6 installed? I havent had a problem with mine. I will be happy to try the files. I have SO6 and OOo so i can test it in both. Just send the files. Thanks, Rob Damian. It looks as though one of the files is OK and the other corrupt. But I still can't use the OK one, so I guess it's something on my machine. I have to find a memory checker now. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Star Office beats me
Hey Anne, I'd like to give it a try. I use OO off and on, and haven't had any problems with stability with it. Terry Anne Wilson wrote: The spontaneous logouts were causing havoc in my file, as every backup was resulting in yet another corrupted file - at least that's what it looks like. I decided to split the file, reasoning that if I took out all the info about ImageMagic use it would halve the size of it :) All went well, and SOWriter was noticeably quicker in response as the file size went down, until they were both near equal size. I was cutting and pasting, so both had to be open at once. Then I hit real trouble. Both halves started behaving the same way. I gave up on Open Office last year because it seems so unstable, and this is exactly the same. Now I need to know whether it is the file that is the problem, or something here in my installation or hardware. Is anyone who uses SO or OOo willing to take one of the files and try to open it to see what happens? It doesn't seem to put any of your other files at risk. You would need to open it, navigate it a bit, copy and paste to an empty file, and so on, to see if it behaves. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Star Office beats me
On Wednesday 22 Jan 2003 6:22 pm, et wrote: probly not mem,,, prolly the file itself, and might be fixed by sending as e-mail... off list I sent it back to you with the name changed slightly Well, it opened fine and looked OK, so I opened the other file, the source for copying, that Tony had checked out - and immediately it logged out again. Did you really just re-name the file? Did you open the backup file and start from there? Can I send the source file, so that you can try the same trick? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Star Office beats me
On Wednesday 22 January 2003 01:39 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 22 Jan 2003 6:22 pm, et wrote: probly not mem,,, prolly the file itself, and might be fixed by sending as e-mail... off list I sent it back to you with the name changed slightly Well, it opened fine and looked OK, so I opened the other file, the source for copying, that Tony had checked out - and immediately it logged out again. Did you really just re-name the file? yep and saved it in star office I tried cutting and pasting to.. no problem Did you open the backup file and start from there? Can I send the source file, so that you can try the same trick? Anne sure Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Star Office beats me
On Wednesday 22 January 2003 06:47 am, you wrote: The spontaneous logouts were causing havoc in my file, as every backup was resulting in yet another corrupted file - at least that's what it looks like. Are you backing up to another machine over a network? I had a bad NIC that caused spontaneous reboots--took me a month to figure out what hardware was doing it. I found that I could get the behavior almost always if I transferred files across the network. Sometimes I could even reboot my machine by transferring files to it from another workstation. I think you have a hardware problem--not software. Bad memory, bad NIC, something. e. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Star Office question
On Sun, 18 Aug 2002, Chris Pollock wrote: Relating to my Adabas Database question, should I have installed SO 6.0 as a stand alone or as network? How does/will this affect the operation of Adabas? Hi Chris, Either way would be fine. as a stand alone the only one then that can us SO on your system then would be you, as opposed to using the network install that would allow any user logged into the system to use SO. -- daRmaTTeR Reg. Linux User #186492 Stupidity has no moral high ground...it can't see that high! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Star Office question
On Monday 19 August 2002 06:47 am, you wrote: On Sun, 18 Aug 2002, Chris Pollock wrote: Relating to my Adabas Database question, should I have installed SO 6.0 as a stand alone or as network? How does/will this affect the operation of Adabas? Hi Chris, Either way would be fine. as a stand alone the only one then that can us SO on your system then would be you, as opposed to using the network install that would allow any user logged into the system to use SO. Really? I thought the difference was the network install would put all the files in a space accessible by all users and only install about 20 megs in the users space and the single install put about 200 megs in the users folders and all the 200 megs could only be accessed by the user that installed SO? and since I bet (don't really know, only a guess) Adabas would require (or like to have) multiple users, the net install would be the recommended manner. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Star Office question
On Mon, 19 Aug 2002, et wrote: On Monday 19 August 2002 06:47 am, you wrote: On Sun, 18 Aug 2002, Chris Pollock wrote: Relating to my Adabas Database question, should I have installed SO 6.0 as a stand alone or as network? How does/will this affect the operation of Adabas? Hi Chris, Either way would be fine. as a stand alone the only one then that can us SO on your system then would be you, as opposed to using the network install that would allow any user logged into the system to use SO. Really? I thought the difference was the network install would put all the files in a space accessible by all users and only install about 20 megs in the users space and the single install put about 200 megs in the users this is correct. folders and all the 200 megs could only be accessed by the user that installed SO? and since I bet (don't really know, only a guess) Adabas would require (or like to have) multiple users, the net install would be the recommended manner. the network install places the program files and all other files in a central instalation folder. (I usually install mine to /usr/local/staroffice6.0) and then as you say when the user runs the setup program copies about 20MB with of files over to the ~/$USER. as for Adabas I don't think it really cares whether it's in multi-user environment or not. -- daRmaTTeR Reg. Linux User #186492 Stupidity has no moral high ground...it can't see that high! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Star Office 6 Adabas question
As I said, all you need is OpenOffice... Unless Mandrake installed dBase when I wasn't looking. Just press F4... It's been a long time since I used dBase (III, III+, and IV) (on dos and Windows), but, don't you need the dBase engine in addition to whatever data Open/StarOffice puts out, to make use of the data in that format? Do you make use of the data in dBase format? With or without a dBase engine? Maybe MySQL or Postgres can handle dBase format data as an option? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Star Office 6 Adabas question
On Wednesday 05 June 2002 12:56 pm, you wrote: Where can you get a copy of dBase? *sigh* It's a database format that Open/StarOffice uses, just like it supports Microsoft Word and Excel documents without you needing to use Microsoft software to edit the documents... Like I said, press F4 and add a new Data Source, of type dBase. OpenOffice is quite good with databases... If you don't like it, try MySQL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Star Office 6 Adabas question
Thanks for your patience. I have not needed to use a database program before and I am just now having to learn how to use one. TC --- D. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 05 June 2002 12:56 pm, you wrote: Where can you get a copy of dBase? *sigh* It's a database format that Open/StarOffice uses, just like it supports Microsoft Word and Excel documents without you needing to use Microsoft software to edit the documents... Like I said, press F4 and add a new Data Source, of type dBase. OpenOffice is quite good with databases... If you don't like it, try MySQL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Star Office 6 Adabas question
D. Olson wrote: On Wednesday 05 June 2002 12:56 pm, you wrote: Where can you get a copy of dBase? It's a database format that Open/StarOffice uses, just like it supports Microsoft Word and Excel documents without you needing to use Microsoft software to edit the documents... Like I said, press F4 and add a new Data Source, of type dBase. OpenOffice is quite good with databases... If you don't like it, try MySQL. It's been a long time since I used dBase (III, III+, and IV) (on dos and Windows), but, don't you need the dBase engine in addition to whatever data Open/StarOffice puts out, to make use of the data in that format? Do you make use of the data in dBase format? With or without a dBase engine? Maybe MySQL or Postgres can handle dBase format data as an option? regards, Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Star Office 6 Adabas question
Currently I'm using Mandrake 8.2 with Star Office 6 and Adabas installed for database. I previously used Star Office 5.2 with Adabas and had set up several small relational databases for home and business use. I had no problems. With SO 6, I can't figure out how to even launch Adabas After installing the Adabas package from the PowerPack Edition cd's, it automagically set up a link in my menu under Office Accessories titled Adabas Installation. I launched that, Adabas went through it's setup. It created an Adabas sub directory in my home directory (just like it should), there were no errors noted during the installation. The problem is that I can NOT find an executable file anywhere on my system to launch the Adabas GUI! In SO5.2 Adabas would launch from inside the Star Office menus. I checked to be sure Adabas was installed using the Software Manager and it shows as installed. If anyone knows what executable I need to launch to get Adabas running, please let me know. Many thanks in advance for your help. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Star Office 6 Adabas question
Umm... That's cuz Adabas is a file format, not a database editor... There is NO GUI. You can do databases in OpenOffice too... When you are in Writer or any other modules, press F4. That'll open up the data sources. Take it from there. D.Olson On Tuesday 04 June 2002 09:50 am, you wrote: Currently I'm using Mandrake 8.2 with Star Office 6 and Adabas installed for database. I previously used Star Office 5.2 with Adabas and had set up several small relational databases for home and business use. I had no problems. With SO 6, I can't figure out how to even launch Adabas After installing the Adabas package from the PowerPack Edition cd's, it automagically set up a link in my menu under Office Accessories titled Adabas Installation. I launched that, Adabas went through it's setup. It created an Adabas sub directory in my home directory (just like it should), there were no errors noted during the installation. The problem is that I can NOT find an executable file anywhere on my system to launch the Adabas GUI! In SO5.2 Adabas would launch from inside the Star Office menus. I checked to be sure Adabas was installed using the Software Manager and it shows as installed. If anyone knows what executable I need to launch to get Adabas running, please let me know. Many thanks in advance for your help. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Star Office 6 Adabas question
On Tuesday 04 June 2002 02:49 pm, you wrote: Umm... That's cuz Adabas is a file format, not a database editor... There is NO GUI. You can do databases in OpenOffice too... When you are in Writer or any other modules, press F4. That'll open up the data sources. Take it from there. D.Olson Thank you for your help. I appologize for my ignorance. Star Office 5.2 apparently came with a GUI database editor for Adabas. SO 6.0 does not seem to have one! I have used Microsoft Access since their version 1.0 for relational database creation and management. Created several business specific databases with it. The database editor in Star Office 5.2 is very much like Microsoft Access and was easy for me to use and figure out. I rely heavily on the GUI at this point with Linux. I tried opening up the data sources in SO 6.0 as you suggested but it's not exactly what I am looking for. How do I create a new database with it? Adabas with 5.2 was very easy to use. I can't figure out how to get the same GUI editor with 6.0 (maybe it's no longer there). Do you have any other suggestions? Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Star Office 6 Adabas question
Yeah, you need to add a new data source, then add a new table, then add a link to a document to edit... It works nearly the same as in 5.2. There must be some tutorial online somewhere. And by the way, AdabasD's file format sucks, IMHO. I just use dBase. It's simple and has no limitations. On Wednesday 05 June 2002 12:30 am, you wrote: On Tuesday 04 June 2002 02:49 pm, you wrote: Umm... That's cuz Adabas is a file format, not a database editor... There is NO GUI. You can do databases in OpenOffice too... When you are in Writer or any other modules, press F4. That'll open up the data sources. Take it from there. D.Olson Thank you for your help. I appologize for my ignorance. Star Office 5.2 apparently came with a GUI database editor for Adabas. SO 6.0 does not seem to have one! I have used Microsoft Access since their version 1.0 for relational database creation and management. Created several business specific databases with it. The database editor in Star Office 5.2 is very much like Microsoft Access and was easy for me to use and figure out. I rely heavily on the GUI at this point with Linux. I tried opening up the data sources in SO 6.0 as you suggested but it's not exactly what I am looking for. How do I create a new database with it? Adabas with 5.2 was very easy to use. I can't figure out how to get the same GUI editor with 6.0 (maybe it's no longer there). Do you have any other suggestions? Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] star office and jre
On Wednesday 06 March 2002 10:28 pm, you wrote: sorry for asking a dumb question? 1) where is the archives? 2) and shouldn't there be a link in the list signiture? As I know this question must have been asked hundreds of times... I have installed the IBM jre it (the loader) is at /usr/jre118/bin/linux/jre But for the life of me I can't get star office to find it. I use the dialog browser to get to /usr/jre118/bin/linux but no jre shows, and star office says it coud not find it. Help! TIA Gerald: In addition to the archives, you can also find a lot of very good information at the MandrakeUser site. Here's their article on java: http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/utils/ujava.html HTH -- -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] star office and jre
sorry for asking a dumb question? 1) where is the archives? 2) and shouldn't there be a link in the list signiture? As I know this question must have been asked hundreds of times... I have installed the IBM jre it (the loader) is at /usr/jre118/bin/linux/jre But for the life of me I can't get star office to find it. I use the dialog browser to get to /usr/jre118/bin/linux but no jre shows, and star office says it coud not find it. Help! TIA -- Gerald Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] star office and jre
I have installed the IBM jre it (the loader) is at /usr/jre118/bin/linux/jre But for the life of me I can't get star office to find it. I use the dialog browser to get to /usr/jre118/bin/linux but no jre shows, and star office says it coud not find it. Help! TIA uhm.. i once installed starofice 6 beta.. it didn't find my jre either, but it had a button install on that part of the setup process, and pushing that one installed sun's jre. that's how i solved it, HTH damian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] star office
On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, M. Garcia wrote: %_I'm trying to learn to install Star Office under Mandrake 8.1 I've downloaded the .bin but I am unable to get it to install. It gives me a permissions error. Running it as root was the same. I came across something called chmod. but I'm not sure what it is. Any help will be appreciated. Also, links to basic guides. Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] try chmod +x setup I think setup is what you should be executing What file are you trying to execute? -- Gerald Waugh Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] star office
On Tuesday 19 February 2002 14:32, Gerald Waugh wrote: On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, M. Garcia wrote: %_I'm trying to learn to install Star Office under Mandrake 8.1 I've downloaded the .bin but I am unable to get it to install. It gives me a permissions error. Running it as root was the same. I came across something called chmod. but I'm not sure what it is. Any help will be appreciated. Also, links to basic guides. Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] try chmod +x setup and don't forget that if you have multiple users on the machine, it should be ./setup /net Then do a normal setup for each user. Robin -- Never mind the quality, feel the bandwidth. Robin Turner IDMYO, Bilkent Universitesi Ankara 06533 Turkey http://www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] star office
I'm trying to learn to install Star Office underMandrake 8.1 I've downloaded the .bin but I am unable to get it to install. It gives me a permissions error. Running it as root was the same. I came across something called chmod. but I'm not sure what it is. Any help will be appreciated. Also, links to basic guides. Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] star office
Thanks, I'll give it a try tomorrow. Mike - Original Message - From: Brian Parish [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] star office chmod is what you need. you need to make the .bin file executable. to do this: chmod +x filename. Then you need to execute it like this: ./filename (without quotes of course). the ./ part means use the version in my current directory rather than searching the path. have fun Brian On Tue, 2002-02-19 at 10:57, M. Garcia wrote: I'm trying to learn to install Star Office under Mandrake 8.1 I've downloaded the .bin but I am unable to get it to install. It gives me a permissions error. Running it as root was the same. I came across something called chmod. but I'm not sure what it is. Any help will be appreciated. Also, links to basic guides. Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Star Office as RPM ?
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- file.rpm will be installed by the rpm - option command
On the road to guruhood, stop and read the man(info) pages. Seriously, you
will learn more about rpm by typing:
$ man rpm | less
or
$ info rpm
(the $ sign represents your prompt in a terminal or shell -- we use $
to denote a normal user and # to denote root; the | is the unix pipe
symbol and it means redirect the output of the man program to the
input of the less pager program), than you will by firing off an
e-mail. What's better, you will be able to make more sense of the help
offered to you. The beauty of unix systems is that most of the
information you need is already on your computer.
Now when you type man or info, you'll see a lot of stuff--it's very
terse. Don't worry about trying to understand all of it at once. Just
skim through it looking for the information you need. Here's an
excerpt from the rpm man page:
INSTALLING, UPGRADING, AND REMOVING PACKAGES:
rpm {-i|--install} [install-options] PACKAGE_FILE ...
rpm {-U|--upgrade} [install-options] PACKAGE_FILE ...
rpm {-F|--freshen} [install-options] PACKAGE_FILE ...
rpm {-e|--erase} [--allmatches] [--nodeps] [--noscripts]
[--notriggers] [--repackage] [--test] PACKAGE_NAME ...
Look at that a few times. You'll begin to see that it's telling you
exactly how to use rpm to install, upgrade, freshen, and erase
programs. Oh, if that hasn't answered your question. Always use the
rpm command to install packages that end with .rpm.
- file.bin with bla bla command
Well, .bin denotes binary. It means that the program you are trying
to install is itself contained in an installer program. This is the
equivalent of an .exe extension in the Windows world. So if you get
this file: hot_new_program-V4.0.bin from the internet, the command
to install it is going to be:
# ./hot_new_program-V4.0.bin
or StarOffice 6.0 Beta is installed by typing
$ ./so-6_0-beta-bin-linux-en.bin*
or, if you want it installed system-wide (wise on a single-user machine):
# ./so-6_0-beta-bin-linux-en.bin*
- when to use the ./ , when do u need to chmod the file before u install
...etc
Remember, .bin files are PROGRAMS. In unix, a program must be
executable in order to run, i.e. it's permissions must be set to
executable. When you download hot_new_program-V4.0.bin and copy it to
whatever directory you're going to install from, check its permissions
first:
# cd /home/downloads/
# ls -l
- -rw-r--r--1 rufmetal root 1474560 Jan 20 19:06 driver-1.bin
- -rwxr-xr-x1 rufmetal root 1474560 Jul 29 2001 rescue.bin*
- -rwxr-xr-x1 rufmetal root 1474560 Jul 29 2001 root.bin*
- -rw-r--r--1 rufmetal root 124582824 Oct 3
12:00hot_new_program-V4.0.bin
Uh-oh. There are no x's in the permissions listing for
hot_new_program-V4.0.bin. What's more, our bash shell is kind enough
to put an asterisk * on the end of any file that's executable, when
using the ls command. Since the file has no execute permissions, we
need to change its modes.
# chmod u+x hot_new_program-V4.0.bin
(do man chmod | less to see what I'm talking about).
Now in unix, as in DOS, an executible must be in one of the
directories listed in your PATH variable in order for it to be
executed at the command line. If it's not in your PATH, i.e. the shell
doesn't know to look in the current directory for executable files,
you either need to add the directory (not always a good idea), or make
an absolute reference to the file.
So you could type:
# /home/downloads/hot_new_program-V4.0.bin
Which would execute HotProgram4's installer. That's called absolute
referencing because you tell bash the absolute (complete) path to the
file. An easier way is to use ./ which means look for the file in
the current directory.
# /home/downloads/hot_new_program-V4.0.bin
and
# ./hot_new_program-V4.0.bin
are really the same command, but one is easier to type.
Finally, a lot of programs are still packaged as tarballs. That is,
they are compressed tar archives with installer scripts. To install
hot_new_program-V4.0.tar.gz:
# gunzip hot_new_program-V4.0.tar.gz
# tar -xvf hot_new_program-V4.0.tar
# cd hot_new_program-V4.0
# cat README | less
# cat INSTALL | less
# cat ANY_OTHER_RELEVANT_DOCS | less
# ./install.sh
Notice, I'm recommending you read at least the INSTALL and README
files that come with most tarballs!
Have a look at the man pages for gunzip and tar to get an idea of what
these incredibly useful commands can do.
Hope this helps
~ Chris
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Re: [newbie] Star Office as RPM ?
On Friday 01 February 2002 23:49, you spoke unto me thusly: Hi All, Does anyone know if Star Office comes in RPM format ? i doubt it, but ya never know if not, then would someone please tell me ( in steps) how to install it ? well the simple way is to download it, open it with archiver (assuming you use kde you can right click and simply choose archiver from the pop-up) then extract it (kinda like using winzip, fairly self explanitory, but if not repost with new questions) change to the directory where you extracted to, and run the setup executable. having said that, you might prefer open office, most people so far have. it is based on the same code but new and improved over star 5.2. if you have the beta staroffice 6, you basically have openoffice. and don't be scared off by the beta part. that just means it will run about like microsoft releaseware. ;-) I'm a newbie ( as I'm still posting here in this list :-) ) hey i post here and i have been using mandrake since 7.1 came out all fresh and new. guess some of us just know how little we actually know. ;-) i usually learn things here too. -- The linux philosophy is laugh in the face of danger. Oops. Wrong one. 'Do it yourself.' That's it. -L. Torvalds shane registered linux user @ http://counter.li.org/ http://shentzu.home.mindspring.com/ Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 http://dmoz.org cause humans do it better! Link different. Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Star Office as RPM ?
On Saturday 02 February 2002 09:49, Hanan Z. AL-Shargi wrote: Hi All, Does anyone know if Star Office comes in RPM format ? if not, then would someone please tell me ( in steps) how to install it ? I'm a newbie ( as I'm still posting here in this list :-) ) and have never installed any thing other than RPM's !! ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/Mandrake-devel/contrib/RPMS/openoffice-6.0.5-1mdk.i586.rpm but I think that may be a little dated. But really, installing either OpenOffice or StarOffice from the installation binary is about as hard as clicking on install.exe in a windows system. You should not need to install either from source. 1. go to www.openoffice.org 2. follow instructions there to download install641_linux_intel.tar.gz 2a. Go make several cups of coffee - this is a big file! 3. Open a terminal and use cd to go to the directory where you downloaded the file , for example cd /home/a_user/downloads ENTER 4. untar and gunzip the file (use the winzip-like kab application if you like, otherwise just use tar -xvzf install641_linux_intel.tar.gz ENTER from the command line, without the quotes of course). A directory called install with lots of files in it will be formed. cd to it: cd install ENTER 5 Now run the command ./setup ENTER 6. Follow the on-screen instructions -- Michel Clasquin, D Litt et Phil (Unisa) [EMAIL PROTECTED]/unisa.ac.za http://www.geocities.com/clasqm This message was posted from a Microsoft-free PC All in all, you're just another brick in the wall- Pink Floyd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Star Office as RPM ?
On Saturday 02 February 2002 06:48, Michel Clasquin wrote: 4. untar and gunzip the file (use the winzip-like kab application if you like, otherwise just use tar -xvzf install641_linux_intel.tar.gz ENTER from the command line, without the quotes of course) oops there were quotes in there originally ... -- Michel Clasquin, D Litt et Phil (Unisa) [EMAIL PROTECTED]/unisa.ac.za http://www.geocities.com/clasqm This message was posted from a Microsoft-free PC All in all, you're just another brick in the wall- Pink Floyd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Star Office as RPM ?
Thank you Michel, I downloaded star office in binary format from Sun's website, and as you said installing it was as easy as clicking on a .exe But since this was brought up, would any of the list gurus please kindly post a short list clearifying how do u know how to install the diffirent types of files ? I mean something like a small list : - file.rpm will be installed by the rpm - option command - file.bin with bla bla command - when to use the ./ , when do u need to chmod the file before u install ...etc Many thanks in advance to any volunteer :-) But really, installing either OpenOffice or StarOffice from the installation binary is about as hard as clicking on install.exe in a windows system. You should not need to install either from source. 1. go to www.openoffice.org 2. follow instructions there to download install641_linux_intel.tar.gz 2a. Go make several cups of coffee - this is a big file! 3. Open a terminal and use cd to go to the directory where you downloaded the file , for example cd /home/a_user/downloads ENTER 4. untar and gunzip the file (use the winzip-like kab application if you like, otherwise just use tar -xvzf install641_linux_intel.tar.gz ENTER from the command line, without the quotes of course). A directory called install with lots of files in it will be formed. cd to it: cd install ENTER 5 Now run the command ./setup ENTER 6. Follow the on-screen instructions Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Star Office
Is openoffice and staroffice the same thing? Paul Kraus Network Administrator PEL Supply Company (216) 267-5775 Voice (216) 267-6176 Fax www.pelsupply.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of shane Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 4:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Star Office staroffice is in the powerpack not the download, and the truth is you would rather run the newer openoffice downloads. :) hop out to openoffice.org is the place i do believe. On Thursday 24 January 2002 12:48, you spoke unto me thusly: Someone posted earlier that star office was on the mdk8.1 cd's. Where is it located? I can't find it. Paul -- For more than 4 generations the IT Professionals were the guardians of quality and stability in software. Before the dark times. Before Microsoft.. shane registered linux user @ http://counter.li.org/ http://www.mystic-light.net/personal/ Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 http://dmoz.org cause humans do it better! Link different. Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Star Office
On Thu, 24 Jan 2002, Paul Kraus wrote: %_Someone posted earlier that star office was on the mdk8.1 cd's. Where is it located? I can't find it. On the three cd set it is on the commercial one. -- Gerald Waugh Registered Linux User 255245 register at http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Star Office
Title: RE: [newbie] Star Office It is not on the d/l'd version only on the boxed sets cause it is proprietary. You can d/l openoffice.org though. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul Kraus Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 2:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Star Office Someone posted earlier that star office was on the mdk8.1 cd's. Where is it located? I can't find it. Paul
RE: [newbie] Star Office
On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, Paul Kraus wrote: Is openoffice and staroffice the same thing? No it's not. OpenOffice is an opensource version of StarOffice, even though I believe that StarOffice is opensource too. Once apon a time StarOffice (Sun Miscrosystems I believe) released their code to developers, who then in turn created (and are still developing) OpenOffice (OpenOffice.org to be correct ... patent issues). To sum it up in a nutshell, there are many differing issuse of the 2 programs. When I once used StarOffice, it contained MANY different interfaces, like E-mail, a Web brower and so on, which OpenOffice.org does not. StarOffice also tried to intergrate into the KDE environmant I gathered, however in my opinion when I tried it it failed. Both programs share though the standard Office applications, mostly compared to Word, Excel, Powerpoint and so on. IMHO OpenOffice.org is a better program as it cuts down on unneccesary extras. Just my 5 cents ;-) Greetings Ralph Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Star Office
Granted StarOffice 5.2 and OpenOffice are very different beasts as described, but StarOffice6.0 and OpenOffice are all but identical. I have them both loaded, and the only difference I can detect between them is the splash screen when they open. derek On Friday 25 January 2002 14:35, Ralph Slooten wrote: On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, Paul Kraus wrote: Is openoffice and staroffice the same thing? No it's not. OpenOffice is an opensource version of StarOffice, even though I believe that StarOffice is opensource too. Once apon a time StarOffice (Sun Miscrosystems I believe) released their code to developers, who then in turn created (and are still developing) OpenOffice (OpenOffice.org to be correct ... patent issues). To sum it up in a nutshell, there are many differing issuse of the 2 programs. When I once used StarOffice, it contained MANY different interfaces, like E-mail, a Web brower and so on, which OpenOffice.org does not. StarOffice also tried to intergrate into the KDE environmant I gathered, however in my opinion when I tried it it failed. Both programs share though the standard Office applications, mostly compared to Word, Excel, Powerpoint and so on. IMHO OpenOffice.org is a better program as it cuts down on unneccesary extras. Just my 5 cents ;-) Greetings Ralph Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Star Office
Paul Kraus wrote: Is openoffice and staroffice the same thing? Almost. StarOffice was/is the Sun product, which became open sourced. When it became open sourced, certain features / programs incorporated in it could not be open sourced because they were proprietary to other companies. OpenOffice is the ongoing development of the StarOffice open source project, and they are, to some extent, writing or finding replacements for the stuff that could not be incorporated when StarOffice became open sourced. I think, but am not sure, that StarOffice also continues to be developed as an open source project. I've think I've heard more people expressing a preference for OpenOffice than vice versa. Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Star Office
Paul Kraus wrote: Someone posted earlier that star office was on the mdk8.1 cd's. Where is it located? I can't find it. Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com If you have the download edition, it is not. It is on Commercial CD with Standard Edition, and PowerPack and ProSuite and _even_ Gaming edition. (Last I looked, CompUSA had Gaming for 29.95 and it includes the ability to run several windows games and has the Sims) Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Star Office
Someone posted earlier that star office was on the mdk8.1 cd's. Where is it located? I can't find it. Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Star Office
I don't think it is on the 3 downloadable cds. I think it is in the box sets. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul Kraus Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 3:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Star Office Someone posted earlier that star office was on the mdk8.1 cd's. Where is it located? I can't find it. Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Star Office
Commercial disk 1 - Original Message - From: Paul Kraus [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 2:48 PM Subject: [newbie] Star Office Someone posted earlier that star office was on the mdk8.1 cd's. Where is it located? I can't find it. Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Star Office
staroffice is in the powerpack not the download, and the truth is you would rather run the newer openoffice downloads. :) hop out to openoffice.org is the place i do believe. On Thursday 24 January 2002 12:48, you spoke unto me thusly: Someone posted earlier that star office was on the mdk8.1 cd's. Where is it located? I can't find it. Paul -- For more than 4 generations the IT Professionals were the guardians of quality and stability in software. Before the dark times. Before Microsoft.. shane registered linux user @ http://counter.li.org/ http://www.mystic-light.net/personal/ Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 http://dmoz.org cause humans do it better! Link different. Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Star Office
On Thursday 24 January 2002 15:48, you wrote: Commercial Applications CD 1 There is a web site that lists all the packages on the assorted cd's, but I need to search the newbie archives to find it. Hope this helps, eric Someone posted earlier that star office was on the mdk8.1 cd's. Where is it located? I can't find it. Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Star Office
On Thu, 24 Jan 2002, shane wrote: staroffice is in the powerpack not the download, and the truth is you would rather run the newer openoffice downloads. :) hop out to openoffice.org is the place i do believe. http://sf1.mirror.openoffice.org/641c/install641C_linux_intel.tar.gz is the latest build of OpenOffice (65 MB's). I am using it, and it seems to work great. So far no crashes. One great thing I love about OpenOffice, which I never got to work with StarOffice is the usage of True Type Fonts. With OpenOffice all you have to do (if you are using a network install ~ Origionally installed with ./install /net) is to create a directory in your user install directory ~/_User_OpenOffice_install_dir_/user/fonts, and just to throw the ttf's in there, and restart openoffice ;-) Works like a charm. Greetings Ralph On Thursday 24 January 2002 12:48, you spoke unto me thusly: Someone posted earlier that star office was on the mdk8.1 cd's. Where is it located? I can't find it. Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] star office in spanish
I installed star office and it is in spanish, only I don't speak spanish. Actually it installed during the LM 8.1 install. I hit setup in the menu and it came up in spanish. Can I fix it, or do I need an english version. -- Gerald -- Registered Linux User 255245 Register at http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Star office ?
Hi need a little help. Installed star office 6.0 but not anywhere on my desktop kde . I can't make it work at all any help please Thanks Harry Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Star office ?
On Thu, 2001-11-08 at 21:09, Harry Ablejoy wrote: Hi need a little help. Installed star office 6.0 but not anywhere on my desktop kde . I can't make it work at all any help please Harry, If you did a default install of StarOffice 6.0, then it is installed into /usr/local/staroffice6.0/. From this directory, you can go to the program subdirectory, and run soffice to launch Star Office. If you did a network install (using the /net switch when running the installer), then go to the same program subdirectory, and run setup. This will allow you to install a minimal configuration (about 1.4 MB) into your home directory, with a staroffice6.0 directory created, and you can then launch soffice from there. Hope this helps, Dave -- When anyone says `theoretically,' they really mean `not really.' -- David Parnas msg81046/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] STAR OFFICE FONTS - NOW: OPEN OFFICE - Any users?
Hi folks, Any brave ones using Open Office out there, yet? Which brings up a further point: Some of our Newbies on this list are really brave. What they are doing playing with advanced stuff when they are asking questions even *I* can answer... The Escape E-Book I think will really have to stick to official programs. Even more, maybe to those on the Mandrake approved list. Thoughts, folks?? ( I actually had to announce that the old Users Society I was Pres of many years ago would no longer support anything pre PC/MS DOS CP/M and definitely not Apples! 70% of all problem calls came from Apple users in one sister mixed group - you know the easy one to use? - and people kept coming up with the strangest machines in ours! We simply had to decide to support only mainstream on-sale products and setup a vintage club for the few who generated most of the work! :-) -- Cheers, John Fablor now Webhosting?? What on earth for?? Info here: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (it's only an Autoresponder) :-)
Re: [newbie] STAR OFFICE FONTS
Have a look at http://OpenOffice.org/. Sun Microsystems released all the StarOffice code they could (some had been licensed from third parties) under the GPL. The code has been ported to GTK+ to become OpenOffice. It should be _far_ better than StarOffice 5.x, especially in font handling and performance. Sun is going to use the OpenOffice code for a StarOffice 6.0 release later this year. However, the current OpenOffice code can be downloaded now and it is supposed to be quite usable (I haven't tried it, however). Binaries are also available. Think OpenOffice is to StarOffice 6 as Mozilla is to Netscape 6. On Fri, 20 Jul 2001 17:00, Miark wrote: I heard they're working on version 6 which is to be released this fall. I'm thinking they'll probably address this issue there. Anybody know otherwise? I mean, they _must_ know about this. Miark - Original Message - From: John Rigby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 12:51 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] STAR OFFICE FONTS Hi there, If nobody here can fix it ( most things seem to be! ) send off a note to SO. If enough people NICELY complain, it will be fixed. The axle that squeaks gets the grease - THAT'S life! :-) : On Fri, 20 Jul 2001 15:03, you manipulated electrons to produce: Yes... It's extremely annoying to me. I wish I knew how to correct this problem! Konqueror had a similar problem, but I corrected it through settings changes. But, SO52 doesn't have any such settings to change! So, what can we do??? Cheers, John Fablor now Webhosting?? What on earth for?? Info here: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (it's only an Autoresponder) :-) -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson
Re: [newbie] STAR OFFICE FONTS
John Rigby wrote: Hi there, If nobody here can fix it ( most things seem to be! ) send off a note to SO. If enough people NICELY complain, it will be fixed. The axle that squeaks gets the grease - THAT'S life! :-) On Fri, 20 Jul 2001 15:03, you manipulated electrons to produce: Yes... It's extremely annoying to me. I wish I knew how to correct this problem! Konqueror had a similar problem, but I corrected it through settings changes. But, SO52 doesn't have any such settings to change! So, what can we do??? Cheers, John Fablor now Webhosting?? What on earth for?? Info here: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (it's only an Autoresponder) :-) Apparently, a person from sun will be posting some news about the font status very soon. Roman Registered Linux User #179293 su is not the root of your problem but the start of a new journey
Re: [newbie] Star office problem
Okay. That's what I did and I now have many more fonts to choose from. Thanks, Roman Registered Linux User #179293 Email Powered By Tux Email Utility Mark Weaver wrote: No...Roman they are the fonts from the windows installation that lives on the disk/computer with mandrake. DrakeFonts finds the windows/font folder, reads the fonts that live there and copys them to your Mandrake installation. -- daRcmaTTeR =/\=??? |%C++ On Wed, 4 Jul 2001, Romanator wrote: Drakfont provides its own Windows font but I don't think that they are fonts provided by Microsoft. Microsoft would never provide Linux with their fonts. However, if you find some sort of workaround, please let me know what steps you took to import them into your Linux box. Roman Mark Weaver wrote: actually, you can. In mandrake 7.2 this is accomplished using Font Manager in drakeconf. At the moment I can't recall the name of the utility that performs this in mandrake 8.0, but I'm sure someone here on the list will remember. -- daRcmaTTeR =/\=??? |%C++ On Tue, 3 Jul 2001, Romanator wrote: Hi Ivan, To the best of my knowledge, you cannot copy Windows fonts from Windows to Linux. This is most likely why you got the error. When selecting Windows fonts by using Drakfont, click on the Windows fonts button and select the Force option. You want to uninstall the present fonts and reinstall the Windows font via Drakfont. You have to remember that these Windows fonts in Drakfont were hacked. This is due to the fact that Microsoft owns the fonts. Since they have spent millions of dollars to get them just right, they will NOT share them or offer them to Linux. As far as mounting the NTFS partition, this is still under development ( as fas I am aware ). However, there are plans to add this to a later kernel. I think further investigation is needed. Roman ivan miranda wrote: Hi Romanator, I did download the new version of drakfont,however,i could not install any windows fonts (i have win2k on NTFS).How can i mount an NTFS partion ?.However i copied some fonts from widows m/c, all are *.ttf font,but while i was trying to install those fonts, drakfont gives error message like this for all fonts: font /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/drakfont/78640___.ttf: unknown usWeightClass 5 How can i proceed now ? Thanks in advance Ivan ivan miranda wrote: Hi all, I have installed a power pack version of LM8.Staroffice works fine,java okay,but the fonts...awafullhow can i correct this.Earlier,i have corrected the fonts problem in LM8 and the browsers,by removing the existing abisuite and installing a newer version.The second problem is that i have an HP5000 series laser printer on the network.The staroffice printer menu does not include this how can use this printer?The same printer was configured in cups is working fine(samba printer).Thanks in advace for the help Ivan Ivan, Select the Software manager and download the drafont 0.5-13mdk update TrueType Fonts manager. Install the Windows fonts. Navigate to Control Center-Look'N'Feel-Fonts. For fixed width I'm using lucidatypewriter. I also use a combination of Helvetica and Verdana 10 and 11 pts. Roman Registered Linux User #179293 Email Powered By Tux Email Utility -- Ivan Miranda General Instrument Engineer/IT support Po Box 8746,Doha,Qatar Ph:974-4402524/4402773 Fax:974-4323380
Re: [newbie] Star office problem
Hi Randy, I did it and I have many more choices when it comes to fonts. Thanks, Roman Registered Linux User #179293 Email Powered By Tux Email Utility Randy Kramer wrote: Romanator wrote: Okay. But I have to figure how to import them into Linux. I use kde on Mandrake 7.2 with the MandrakeFreq from 20010315. Start drakfont (it should be on your menu -- in my case it it is under configuration - other - drakfont). You can do this from a user account -- it will prompt you for the root password. After you start drakfont, click on the button labeled Get Windows fonts -- hopefully it will be self explanatory from there. Like I said, I got them to Linux and can use them for many applications, but I haven't been able to use them in any kde application. If you get stuck after the Get Windows fonts button, write back. (I'm trying to reconstruct what I did from memory.) Hope this helps, Randy Kramer
Re: [newbie] Star office problem
Roman, You can take Windows fonts and use them in Linux. AFAIK, you can do so legally on a dual boot machine where you have Windows legally installed. I can't tell you the step-by-step of how to do it -- I think it's been mentioned in this thread or elsewhere on the list -- I've done this by following instructions from the list. Aside: The procedure I followed got the fonts into Linux to be used by most applications, but I still haven't figured out how to make them work in KDE -- I can never find them listed in any of the KDE font configuration tools (general or app specific). Hope this helps, Randy Kramer Romanator wrote: Drakfont provides its own Windows font but I don't think that they are fonts provided by Microsoft. Microsoft would never provide Linux with their fonts. However, if you find some sort of workaround, please let me know what steps you took to import them into your Linux box.
Re: [newbie] Star office problem
Hi Randy, Okay. But I have to figure how to import them into Linux. Roman Randy Kramer wrote: Roman, You can take Windows fonts and use them in Linux. AFAIK, you can do so legally on a dual boot machine where you have Windows legally installed. I can't tell you the step-by-step of how to do it -- I think it's been mentioned in this thread or elsewhere on the list -- I've done this by following instructions from the list. Aside: The procedure I followed got the fonts into Linux to be used by most applications, but I still haven't figured out how to make them work in KDE -- I can never find them listed in any of the KDE font configuration tools (general or app specific). Hope this helps, Randy Kramer Romanator wrote: Drakfont provides its own Windows font but I don't think that they are fonts provided by Microsoft. Microsoft would never provide Linux with their fonts. However, if you find some sort of workaround, please let me know what steps you took to import them into your Linux box.
Re: [newbie] Star office problem
Romanator wrote: Okay. But I have to figure how to import them into Linux. I use kde on Mandrake 7.2 with the MandrakeFreq from 20010315. Start drakfont (it should be on your menu -- in my case it it is under configuration - other - drakfont). You can do this from a user account -- it will prompt you for the root password. After you start drakfont, click on the button labeled Get Windows fonts -- hopefully it will be self explanatory from there. Like I said, I got them to Linux and can use them for many applications, but I haven't been able to use them in any kde application. If you get stuck after the Get Windows fonts button, write back. (I'm trying to reconstruct what I did from memory.) Hope this helps, Randy Kramer
Re: [newbie] Star office problem
Roman wrote: if you find some sort of workaround, please let me know what steps you took to import them [Windows fonts] into your Linux box. I did this once, to my sorrow (will explain later). This Drakfont option assumes you have Windows on your hard drive and Linux can see it. When you start Drakfont and click on the Add Windows fonts button or whatever it's called, it finds your Windows fonts and installs them in XWindows. The names will now appear in the fonts list. There was a bug in the version of Drakfont that came with Mandrake 8; an update is supposed to fix this. Now--why I regretted it: There are a number of ways to get fonts into XWindows and KDE, etc. If more than one gets involved, you wind up with multiple copies and listings of the same font. Drakfont is very limited. It is not the font tool of choice, in my opinion. Also, I used it before I got the updated version and there was something weird about the way it brought the fonts into Linux. If you don't have Windows on your drive where Linux lives, you can still get your Windows TrueTypes into Linux. Just copy the *.ttf files from Windows to a floppy or Zip disk or CD. Then if you want to use Drakfont, click on the Add button and tell it where to look for that media in the screen that comes up. It'll give you a list of fonts in that location (floppy, Zip, whatever). Pick the ones you want (there's a Select All option) and OK. Now those TrueTypes will be added to your Linux installation. You can use this method even if you do have Windows on the same drive. It gives you a little more control. You can also create a directory for fonts you want to add, copy the fonts to that directory, and then run Drakfont as above, pointing it to the newly created directory when you click on Add fonts. I'm writing from memory and I haven't been at this very long, so please ask if my directions don't match up with what you see. --Judy Miner
Re: [newbie] Star office problem
Hi Ivan, To the best of my knowledge, you cannot copy Windows fonts from Windows to Linux. This is most likely why you got the error. When selecting Windows fonts by using Drakfont, click on the Windows fonts button and select the Force option. You want to uninstall the present fonts and reinstall the Windows font via Drakfont. You have to remember that these Windows fonts in Drakfont were hacked. This is due to the fact that Microsoft owns the fonts. Since they have spent millions of dollars to get them just right, they will NOT share them or offer them to Linux. As far as mounting the NTFS partition, this is still under development ( as fas I am aware ). However, there are plans to add this to a later kernel. I think further investigation is needed. Roman ivan miranda wrote: Hi Romanator, I did download the new version of drakfont,however,i could not install any windows fonts (i have win2k on NTFS).How can i mount an NTFS partion ?.However i copied some fonts from widows m/c, all are *.ttf font,but while i was trying to install those fonts, drakfont gives error message like this for all fonts: font /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/drakfont/78640___.ttf: unknown usWeightClass 5 How can i proceed now ? Thanks in advance Ivan ivan miranda wrote: Hi all, I have installed a power pack version of LM8.Staroffice works fine,java okay,but the fonts...awafullhow can i correct this.Earlier,i have corrected the fonts problem in LM8 and the browsers,by removing the existing abisuite and installing a newer version.The second problem is that i have an HP5000 series laser printer on the network.The staroffice printer menu does not include this how can use this printer?The same printer was configured in cups is working fine(samba printer).Thanks in advace for the help Ivan Ivan, Select the Software manager and download the drafont 0.5-13mdk update TrueType Fonts manager. Install the Windows fonts. Navigate to Control Center-Look'N'Feel-Fonts. For fixed width I'm using lucidatypewriter. I also use a combination of Helvetica and Verdana 10 and 11 pts. Roman Registered Linux User #179293 Email Powered By Tux Email Utility -- Ivan Miranda General Instrument Engineer/IT support Po Box 8746,Doha,Qatar Ph:974-4402524/4402773 Fax:974-4323380 -- Roman Registered Linux User #179293 This email is powered by the Tux Email Utility
[newbie] Star Office in Mandrake 7.2
Friends: I'm a new user of Linux and Mandrake. I've installed Mandrake 7.2 and quite pleased with it. However, I'm still quite confused about loading software other than rpms. I've got the rpms down fairly well since it seems to be a no-brainer how to install them. I've downloaded Star Office from Sun.com in the 12 segments. Sun says to use the so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en-000.bin file to install the software. Apparently I don't understand and obviously don't know what I am doing. I've tried several different ways to install and it doesn't work. Could anyone tell me how this should work? Also is there any book or booklet that gives the rudimentary ways of working with LM7.2 and KDE (a kind of dummies book)? Thanks for any suggestions. Lynn Sadler -- powered by the Penquin (Linux-Mandrake)
Re: [newbie] Star office problem
Hi Romanator, I did download the new version of drakfont,however,i could not install any windows fonts (i have win2k on NTFS).How can i mount an NTFS partion ?.However i copied some fonts from widows m/c, all are *.ttf font,but while i was trying to install those fonts, drakfont gives error message like this for all fonts: font /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/drakfont/78640___.ttf: unknown usWeightClass 5 How can i proceed now ? Thanks in advance Ivan ivan miranda wrote: Hi all, I have installed a power pack version of LM8.Staroffice works fine,java okay,but the fonts...awafullhow can i correct this.Earlier,i have corrected the fonts problem in LM8 and the browsers,by removing the existing abisuite and installing a newer version.The second problem is that i have an HP5000 series laser printer on the network.The staroffice printer menu does not include this how can use this printer?The same printer was configured in cups is working fine(samba printer).Thanks in advace for the help Ivan Ivan, Select the Software manager and download the drafont 0.5-13mdk update TrueType Fonts manager. Install the Windows fonts. Navigate to Control Center-Look'N'Feel-Fonts. For fixed width I'm using lucidatypewriter. I also use a combination of Helvetica and Verdana 10 and 11 pts. Roman Registered Linux User #179293 Email Powered By Tux Email Utility -- Ivan Miranda General Instrument Engineer/IT support Po Box 8746,Doha,Qatar Ph:974-4402524/4402773 Fax:974-4323380
[newbie] Star office problem
Hi all, I have installed a power pack version of LM8.Staroffice works fine,java okay,but the fonts...awafullhow can i correct this.Earlier,i have corrected the fonts problem in LM8 and the browsers,by removing the existing abisuite and installing a newer version.The second problem is that i have an HP5000 series laser printer on the network.The staroffice printer menu does not include this how can use this printer?The same printer was configured in cups is working fine(samba printer).Thanks in advace for the help Ivan -- Ivan Miranda General Instrument Engineer/IT support Po Box 8746,Doha,Qatar Ph:974-4402524/4402773 Fax:974-4323380
Re: [newbie] Star office problem
On Sun, 24 Jun 2001 10:24:37 +0300 ivan miranda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I have installed a power pack version of LM8.Staroffice works fine,java okay,but the fonts...awafullhow can i correct this.Earlier,i have corrected the fonts problem in LM8 and the browsers,by removing the existing abisuite and installing a newer version.The second problem is that i have an HP5000 series laser printer on the network.The staroffice printer menu does not include this how can use this printer?The same printer was configured in cups is working fine(samba printer).Thanks in advace for the help Go to the options or printer prefs submenu and change the default printer to point to xpp - that works for me Cheers John -- The number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected (The UNIX Programmer's Manual, 2nd Edition, June 1972.) Registered Linux User: 102826
[newbie] Star Office Can't Save
After Install of 8.0 I could not save a document to a vfat partition, neither could root. However I can write to it using the file manager. Any clues? Nev
Re: [newbie] Star Office Can't Save
Hi there, Neville Cobb wrote: After Install of 8.0 I could not save a document to a vfat partition, neither could root. However I can write to it using the file manager. I have the same problem and unfortunately have not found a solution yet. The permissions seem fine and all other programs can write to my vfat partitions. The problem also occours in OpenOffice. Aloha, Daniel
Re: [newbie] Star Office and Netscape start faster in windows??????????? and comments about Linux practicality
Sorry Lee I'm not knowledgeable of Linux piped Office programs to have an opinion there. But from my view point the office system needs not only to be compatable with Micosoft office but work similiarly enough the users can free go back and forth between the two with out it being a big deal for it to become practical for the business world. I'm not at all sure Linux is going to serve my purposes at all. As it has been pointed out Linux is not as well suited yet for multimedia as windows and until software is actually designed for Linux and not just duplication from windows I suppose it will be hard to achieve equality. Personally I find it weird sending out email that is not html compatible and would never consider using an email client that couldn't support html since the multimedia experience is very important to me. I know some of my comments upset some of the purists here and I see their side to a point. However I am only seeking a means to a purpose. I don't like being subject to a dictator like Microsoft nor do I like their prices. But user friendly software that does not take a guru to run it is essential to me. I believe Linux has come a long ways down that road and hopefully it will continue. But those that want to promote and make Linux the new wave of the future need to remember that most of us are not guru's and nor to we desire to be. I build custom computers for sale and would love to be able to sell new and used systems with a freely distributable OS like Linux in them. However my game is more hardware and speed of that hardware, so the OS that is going to give me the best performance is more of a concern then anything else. I'm not a programmer and nor do I feel that is in my future. Mandrake has come further so far then any other distribution so far that I have seen in being able to do configuration through the graphical interface. I would plead with the guru's monitoring this list to use those graphical interfaces in their explanation's of the how to's as much as possible rather then using the command line for I believe the future of Linux becoming a major player in the industry depends on leaving the command line behind. Companys can hire a programmer to do setup if necessarybut in a world of employees used to windows...retraining all of them is not going to be a viable alternative. - Original Message - From: Lee To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Star Office and Netscape start faster in windows??? Hi Taz, Wanna ask ya,if you don't mind, what would you reccomend instead of star office ? k-office perhaps ?? Just curious..and thank you. Lee star office? CRAP. quite simply. why are you using it? that's what you really need to think about man. it does SOME things really nice but other things? it just plain SUCKS at. it's not a bad piece of software, but there's a LOT to be desired. just because it's made by Sun and it's free doesn't mean it's going to kick ass.
Re: [newbie] Star Office and Netscape start faster in windows???????????
i'm glad this is a newbie list or i would have to FLAME you to death. heh heh. linux, is better in overall DESIGN than the Windows OS as far as memory management and less-likely-to-crash goes. support for linux? not so hot. quite simply, it's not a commercial product so it's not going to get commercial support. now, about that netscape/star office thing netscape, for the past i don't know how many years, has been written to be optimized for that 'other' OS. and besides, linux was never really meant to be all lush with all these new rich features like multimedia and crap like that. think about it...it's basically UNIX. it was all text based stuff foir quite a while. star office? CRAP. quite simply. why are you using it? that's what you really need to think about man. it does SOME things really nice but other things? it just plain SUCKS at. it's not a bad piece of software, but there's a LOT to be desired. just because it's made by Sun and it's free doesn't mean it's going to kick ass. the whole thing about whether you need to start linux is best explained something like this... you're hungry and you wanna eat. you can do two things...spend the money to go and get some pre-fab Mc'Donalds crap which tastes not bad but still isn't quite what you want (windows). OR, you can go to the store, grab yourself a nice fatty cookbook (o'reilly) with all sorts of recipes and go and buy real burgers and spuds for about the same money as that king-sized fast food crap and start making your own scrummy burgers and steak fries at home (linux)! is nice, no? if you want to be all nice and comfy, then keep using ME. it doesn't make you dumb. no one's going to CARE. it's simply your CHOICE. if you want help then you've come to the right place. if you want to complain? well...you know the answer to that. DOWNLOAD, UNTAR, CONFIG, and COMPILE my friend. :) p.s. i'm not trying to sound like a dick either. On Monday 14 May 2001 01:27, tazmun wrote: Hi all.just a quickie question that has been bugging me. I was under the impression that the Linux OS was a more efficient program then windowsbut the only 2 programs I have for true comparison since I run them on both OS's is Star Office Netscape 4.7. The windows OS unfortunately kicks linux ass oh so terribly bad! Does this mean I don't have the OS correctly configured or is this typical behaviour? Oh yeah, I'm still running the Mandrake 7.1 version waiting for the 8.0 to hit the stores and windows ME on a 850 PIII based system with a promise card running 66 dma hard drives. I know I had problems when I check the option for (I can't quote exactly what it was called)maximizing hard drive performance. It noted that problems with this are common and suggests that you don't try to use this option. Any thoughts on this subject?? Thanks Taz -- +- + Jeffrey M. Reed + Linux System Administrator + Metro West Boston Linux User Group + [EMAIL PROTECTED] + (508)792-6070 +-
Re: [newbie] Star Office and Netscape start faster in windows???????????
Hi Taz, Wanna ask ya,if you don't mind, what would you reccomend instead of star office ? k-office perhaps ?? Just curious..and thank you. Lee star office? CRAP. quite simply. why are you using it? that's what you really need to think about man. it does SOME things really nice but other things? it just plain SUCKS at. it's not a bad piece of software, but there's a LOT to be desired. just because it's made by Sun and it's free doesn't mean it's going to kick ass.
Re: [newbie] Star Office and Netscape start faster in windows???????????
You might want to try Open Office instead--supposed to be somewhat better performance than star office. Latest release is 6.27, I believe Michael At 01:09 PM 05/14/2001 -0700, Lee wrote: Hi Taz, Wanna ask ya,if you don't mind, what would you reccomend instead of star office ? k-office perhaps ?? Just curious..and thank you. Lee star office? CRAP. quite simply. why are you using it? that's what you really need to think about man. it does SOME things really nice but other things? it just plain SUCKS at. it's not a bad piece of software, but there's a LOT to be desired. just because it's made by Sun and it's free doesn't mean it's going to kick ass.
Re: [newbie] Star Office and Netscape start faster in windows???????????
Greetings, I am a StarOffice user. Once it starts up it is quite responsive. Moreover it has great M$ office import filters. It is also quite feature rich. If you bypass the plash screen at startup you save a couple of seconds. With KDE/GNOME you have several desktops. So, what I do is to open SO in one desktop and leave it the whole day there. KOffice 1.1 is coming out soon. It will be a very intereseting GPLed office suite. OpenOffice is also on the horizon. The situation of GPLed office suites looks very good. Eric On Monday 14 May 2001 14:09, Lee wrote: Hi Taz, Wanna ask ya,if you don't mind, what would you reccomend instead of star office ? k-office perhaps ?? Just curious..and thank you. Lee star office? CRAP. quite simply. why are you using it? that's what you really need to think about man. it does SOME things really nice but other things? it just plain SUCKS at. it's not a bad piece of software, but there's a LOT to be desired. just because it's made by Sun and it's free doesn't mean it's going to kick ass.
Re: [newbie] Star Office and Netscape start faster in windows???????????
I've never heard of Open Office ? Will go in search however..thank you. Lee You might want to try Open Office instead--supposed to be somewhat better performance than star office. Latest release is 6.27, I believe At 01:09 PM 05/14/2001 -0700, Lee wrote: Hi Taz, Wanna ask ya,if you don't mind, what would you reccomend instead of star office ? k-office perhaps ?? Just curious..and thank you. Lee star office? CRAP. quite simply. why are you using it? that's what you really need to think about man. it does SOME things really nice but other things? it just plain SUCKS at. it's not a bad piece of software, but there's a LOT to be desired. just because it's made by Sun and it's free doesn't mean it's going to kick ass.
Re: [newbie] Star Office and Netscape start faster in windows???????????
On Mon, 14 May 2001 05:27, tazmun wrote: Hi all.just a quickie question that has been bugging me. I was under the impression that the Linux OS was a more efficient program then windowsbut the only 2 programs I have for true comparison since I run them on both OS's is Star Office Netscape 4.7. The windows OS unfortunately kicks linux ass oh so terribly bad! Does this mean I don't have the OS correctly configured or is this typical behaviour? There are numerous technical reasons why Netscape and StarOffice perform poorly in Linux compared to Windos. These programmes are monolithic in design, not taking advantage of any of the numerous toolkits (e.g. GTK, QT) that help to keep Linux quick and at the same time functional. The Windos API is far better for these types of applications. For a fairer fight (IMHO), compare a mature Linux programme based on an established toolkit (e.g. Konqueror) with a mature Windos app of the same type (e.g. M$IE). Remember to take account of features (more features usually means slower performance) and other things that may make a performance difference (background processes, themes, etc.). The Linux version of StarOffice 6 (and OpenOffice, upon which it is based) is meant to be based on GTK, so theoretically it should be quicker than the corresponding Windos version. Oh yeah, I'm still running the Mandrake 7.1 version waiting for the 8.0 to hit the stores and windows ME on a 850 PIII based system with a promise card running 66 dma hard drives. I know I had problems when I check the option for (I can't quote exactly what it was called)maximizing hard drive performance. It noted that problems with this are common and suggests that you don't try to use this option. Any thoughts on this subject?? Firstly, try upgrading to Mandrake 8.0. This new version has far better hardware support. One thing to remember about Linux is that is an incredibly configurable OS. Out of the box, it may not be very much faster than Windos, but with only a few tweaks here and there your system can increase drastically in performance. Take a look at http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/hardware/hide2.html, and browse all the other articles on mandrakeuser.org. I'm sure there's much room for improvement. Thanks Taz -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson
Re: [newbie] Star Office and Netscape start faster in windows???????????
Take a look at http://www.openoffice.org At 04:37 PM 05/14/2001 -0700, Lee wrote: I've never heard of Open Office ? Will go in search however..thank you. Lee
[newbie] Star Office and Netscape start faster in windows???????????
Hi all.just a quickie question that has been bugging me. I was under the impression that the Linux OS was a more efficient program then windowsbut the only 2 programs I have for true comparison since I run them on both OS's is Star Office Netscape 4.7. The windows OS unfortunately kicks linux ass oh so terribly bad! Does this mean I don't have the OS correctly configured or is this typical behaviour? Oh yeah, I'm still running the Mandrake 7.1 version waiting for the 8.0 to hit the stores and windows ME on a 850 PIII based system with a promise card running 66 dma hard drives. I know I had problems when I check the option for (I can't quote exactly what it was called)maximizing hard drive performance. It noted that problems with this are common and suggests that you don't try to use this option. Any thoughts on this subject?? Thanks Taz
Re: [newbie] star office 5.2 errir opening configuration file
What kind of SO install did you do? Was it #./setup -net as root and then $./setup as normal user? On Thursday 19 April 2001 09:30, Alan Carpenter wrote: I am having a small problem with star office, and I was wondering if anyone could help me out. When I close star office I get this error message error opening configuration file. When I'm logged in as root, and close up star office I do not get that error. I thought this could be a permissions problem, so I changed all of the star office directories from root to acarpenter. Still the same error. Thanks for your help.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Salvatore Eric Indiogine Computer Specialist - Power Operations [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-2431
[newbie] star office 5.2 errir opening configuration file
I am having a small problem with star office, and I was wondering if anyone could help me out. When I close star office I get this error message "error opening configuration file". When I'm logged in as root, and close up star office I do not get that error. I thought this could be a permissions problem, so I changed all of the star office directories from root to acarpenter. Still the same error. Thanks for your help.. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] star office 5.2 errir opening configuration file
What kind of SO install did you do? Was it #./setup -net as root and then $./setup as normal user? On Thursday 19 April 2001 09:30, Alan Carpenter wrote: I am having a small problem with star office, and I was wondering if anyone could help me out. When I close star office I get this error message "error opening configuration file". When I'm logged in as root, and close up star office I do not get that error. I thought this could be a permissions problem, so I changed all of the star office directories from root to acarpenter. Still the same error. Thanks for your help.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Salvatore "Eric" Indiogine Computer Specialist - Power Operations [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-2431
Re: [newbie] star office 5.2 errir opening configuration file
I was logged on as a normal user, and then I just ran the bin file. Alan Salvatore Eric Indiogine wrote: What kind of SO install did you do? Was it #./setup -net as root and then $./setup as normal user? On Thursday 19 April 2001 09:30, Alan Carpenter wrote: I am having a small problem with star office, and I was wondering if anyone could help me out. When I close star office I get this error message "error opening configuration file". When I'm logged in as root, and close up star office I do not get that error. I thought this could be a permissions problem, so I changed all of the star office directories from root to acarpenter. Still the same error. Thanks for your help.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Salvatore "Eric" Indiogine Computer Specialist - Power Operations [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-2431
Re: [newbie] star office 5.2 errir opening configuration file
I was logged on as a normal user, and then I just ran the bin file. Alan Salvatore Eric Indiogine wrote: What kind of SO install did you do? Was it #./setup -net as root and then $./setup as normal user? On Thursday 19 April 2001 09:30, Alan Carpenter wrote: I am having a small problem with star office, and I was wondering if anyone could help me out. When I close star office I get this error message error opening configuration file. When I'm logged in as root, and close up star office I do not get that error. I thought this could be a permissions problem, so I changed all of the star office directories from root to acarpenter. Still the same error. Thanks for your help.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Salvatore Eric Indiogine Computer Specialist - Power Operations [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-2431
Re: [newbie] star office 5.2 errir opening configuration file
What kind of SO install did you do? Was it #./setup -net as root and then $./setup as normal user? On Thursday 19 April 2001 09:30, Alan Carpenter wrote: I am having a small problem with star office, and I was wondering if anyone could help me out. When I close star office I get this error message error opening configuration file. When I'm logged in as root, and close up star office I do not get that error. I thought this could be a permissions problem, so I changed all of the star office directories from root to acarpenter. Still the same error. Thanks for your help.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Salvatore Eric Indiogine Computer Specialist - Power Operations [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-2431
Re: [newbie] Star Office and Java woes
Thanks for those who replied to my question, will try it when I get home this evening. Dale Kosan
[newbie] star office 5.2 - /tmp no space ???
When I attempted to install star office, I get an error "no space in /tmp". It creates a directory under /tmp called "srv.0001". Does this simply mean I don't have enough space to install it?? I created the typical partitions. /,swap,var,usr,home and opt. What partition does the tmp directory reside under??? Alan Carpenter PC Specialist Department of Computer Services Virginia Wesleyan College 1584 Wesleyan Dr. Norfolk Va. 23502 Office (757)455.3267 Cell (757)449.0381
[newbie] Star Office
Anyone know if the star office that is on the Mandrake 7.1 CD will work in 7.2? I'd rather not download SO if I don't have to. Thanks, -- John W
