[newbie-it] modem usb + linux = :(

2002-01-01 Per discussione [EMAIL PROTECTED]

salve, allora io ho un modem adsl ericsson  hm120dp usb (grazie 
telecom) vorrei sapere come riuscire a farlo vedere a linux (ho 
mandrake 8.1) grazie in anticipo


Re: [newbie-it] modem usb + linux = :(

2002-01-01 Per discussione Marco

Hai scritto
 salve, allora io ho un modem adsl ericsson  hm120dp usb (grazie 
 telecom) vorrei sapere come riuscire a farlo vedere a linux (ho 
 mandrake 8.1) grazie in anticipo

... facendotelo cambiare dalla telecom con un manta usb alcatel (da 
quanto ne so io quel modello dell'ericsson non è ancora supportato)

Ciao 

Marco


Re: [newbie-it] modem usb + linux = :(

2002-01-01 Per discussione Marco

Hai scritto
 salve, allora io ho un modem adsl ericsson  hm120dp usb (grazie 
 telecom) vorrei sapere come riuscire a farlo vedere a linux (ho 
 mandrake 8.1) grazie in anticipo

... facendotelo cambiare dalla telecom con un manta usb alcatel (da 
quanto ne so io quel modello dell'ericsson non è ancora supportato)

Ciao 

Marco


Re: [newbie-it] modem usb + linux = :(

2002-01-01 Per discussione Marco Fortini

Salve a tutti,
Io invece ho il modem Alcatel ADSL Speed touch USB (sul sito mandrake
risulta supportato) e una versione Mandrake 8.0 da due CD, e al momento
dell'installazione tale modem non risultava nella lista.
Sapreste spiegarmi come si procede su Linux a ricercare un driver
scaricarselo da rete (a questo punto dovrei farlo da Windows) e poi
passarmelo sulla partizione Linux e farglielo digerire; qual'è il posto dove
sono i driver ? e poi come si dice al proprio Linux di cercarsi il driver
sull'Hard disc anziche sul CD di installazione ?
La manovra è analoga a quella che avevo imparato su windows o è differente ?
grazie
Marco  Fortini

- Original Message -
From: Marco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 10:37 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie-it] modem usb + linux = :(


 Hai scritto
  salve, allora io ho un modem adsl ericsson  hm120dp usb (grazie
  telecom) vorrei sapere come riuscire a farlo vedere a linux (ho
  mandrake 8.1) grazie in anticipo

 ... facendotelo cambiare dalla telecom con un manta usb alcatel (da
 quanto ne so io quel modello dell'ericsson non è ancora supportato)

 Ciao

 Marco





[newbie-it] lan casalinga

2002-01-01 Per discussione maurizio

Innanzitutto un augurio di felice anno nuovo a tutta la mail list.
Ho recentemente installato sul portatile Mandrake 8.0, visto che sono 
riuscito solo a trovare i driver per il modem per il kernel 2.4.3, mentre sul 
desk ho RedHat 7.2.
Entrambi hanno un scheda ethernet (portatile 192.168.1.1 desk 192.168.1.2). 
Col ping si riconoscono, con FTP pure.
Volendo utilizzare konqueror (come usavo con windoz), alla cartella rete mi 
compare l'errore: nessun host trovato.
Dove ho sbagliato, ho con Linux non è possibile condividere i file di due 
computer (non ci crederò mai!!!).
A voi la soluzione se potete.
Ancora saluti ed auguri
Maurizio





[newbie-it] Software audio

2002-01-01 Per discussione Gabriele Gardelli

Qualcuno sa dirmi se esiste un sowtware per la ripulitura   da fruscii e
rumori vari delle tracce audio ottenute da dischi in vinile ?
Grazie




Re: [newbie-it] d-link 538tx

2002-01-01 Per discussione MadMax

Il Thursday 27 December 2001 11:49 , hai scritto:
 Allora, in fase di avvio la scheda viene riconosciuta benissimo, anche nel
 sito della mandrake risulta pienamnete supportata dalla mia versione (8.1)
 ma se provo vado nella configurazione dell'hardware con il centro di
 controllo, quì mi viene detto che il modello è sconosciuto... come faccio a
 fargli capire che il modello lo conosce?

 grazie e buone feste a tutti
Anche a me succede la stessa cosa.Ho una D-Link 550tx.
La scheda funziona bene? Se si che importa se la conosce o no.
E linux.Sa lui come fare.Non e mica winzoz.
Ciao. MadMax




[newbie-it] Palace software

2002-01-01 Per discussione Dragx


Qualcuno si ricorda di quella chat ,visualchat, con tutti gli smile e le
varie prop ? Ebbene io sto cercando, da tempo, un clone per linux.
Avevo trovato Openverse ma ci si può solo connettere ai loro server
(openverse), ho provato a farlo girare sotto wine ma senza risultato e
non ne avrei voglia di caricare wmwarese qualcuno è in grado di
darmi una mano mi farebbe un grossissimo favore.
Grazie e buon 2002
P.S. Ho linux Mandrake 8.1 kernel 2.4.8-26




Re: [newbie-it] Piccola indagine di mercatato..

2002-01-01 Per discussione Flavio Bosio


Alle 08:38, lunedì 31 dicembre 2001, michele ha scritto:
 anchio  solo se e gratis :)
 saluti e buon anno
 - Original Message -
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 1:49 AM
 Subject: Re: [newbie-it] Piccola indagine di mercatato..

   Mi chiedevo..
   ci sarebbero degli interessati a partecipare ad un corso on-line per
   amministratori di sistema?
  
   Ancora da definire
  
   Saluti e buon anno
 
  Sisi.. io sarei anche interessato.. solo se gratis cmq
  saluti

Ringrazio tutti per la celere risposta...
ma credo non fosse necessaria un indagine di mercato per avere conferma della 
validità della teoria che gratis è meglio.

Gratis ci sono già gli inimitabili Appunti di informatica Libera 
disponibili all'url http://a2.swlibero.org/

Per corso amministratori di sistema si intende l'equivalente di un RH253 ( 
vedere http://www.redhat.it/training/rhce/rh253_desc.php3 )
che da Red Hat viene proposto alla modica cifra di 1.653,00 euro + IVA, + 
spese di trasferimento ed alloggio per tutta la durata del corso (4gg.) 
stimabili in altri 400 euro.

L'idea sarebbe di realizzarlo on-line in formato html da distribuirsi via 
email (come una specie di rivista per intenderci) con un considerevole 
abbattimento dei costi dello stesso e con il vantaggio di avere un suporto 
tecnico disponibile per l'intera durata dell'abbonamento.

Tutto è legato al numero di partecipanti reperibili, per rendere l'idea, se 
gli interessati sono 2, i costi di realizzazione del corso lo renderebbero 
forse più costoso di quello di Red Hat.
Se sono 50 o 500, fermi restando i costi fissi di produzione, lo renderebbero 
molto più conveniente.

Saluti




Re: [newbie-it] installazione xine

2002-01-01 Per discussione luigi pinna

[cut]
 Hai gia' provato Videolan?
 E' un ottima alternativa a Xine (e per certi versi
 anche migliore) ed
 utilizza sia Xvideo che le SDL per le accelerazioni
 video. Puoi trovarlo
 qui http://www.videolan.org 
 Ciao
 
 -- 
 
 Sebastiano
 
ho provato ad installare tutto bene...
quando l'ho fatto partire prima non trovava le
librerie libdvdread ma ho risolto installando l'rpm
presente nel sito, e ho lanciato.
l'errore non c'era più in compenso attivava una
sessione telnet: perchè per lanciare un programma di
lettura di dvd (vls)devo necessariamente connettermi?
invio la copia dei messaggi dalla console


[root@localhost ferris]# vls
VideoLAN Server v 0.3.1 (Dec 21 2001) - (c)1999-2001
VideoLAN
2002-01-01 18:38:00 [INFO/Vls]  Module channel:file
registered
2002-01-01 18:38:00 [INFO/Vls]  Module
channel:network registered
2002-01-01 18:38:00 [INFO/Vls]  Module
mpegreader:file registered
2002-01-01 18:38:00 [INFO/Vls]  Module
mpegconverter:ts2ts registered
2002-01-01 18:38:00 [INFO/Vls]  Module
mpegconverter:ps2ts registered
2002-01-01 18:38:00 [INFO/Vls]  Module input:local
registered
2002-01-01 18:38:00 [INFO/Vls]  Module input:video
registered
2002-01-01 18:38:00 [INFO/Vls]  Browsing modules in
directory .
2002-01-01 18:38:00 [INFO/Vls]  Browsing modules in
directory /usr/local/lib/videolan/vls
2002-01-01 18:38:00 [DEBUG/Vls]  In
src/core/module.cpp line 152 - trying file
/usr/local/lib/deolan/vls/dvdreader.so
2002-01-01 18:38:00 [INFO/Vls]  Module
mpegreader:dvd registered
2002-01-01 18:38:00 [DEBUG/Vls]  In netchannel.h line
45 - New instance of module channel:netwk
2002-01-01 18:38:00 [INFO/Vls]  Channel 'localhost'
created
2002-01-01 18:38:00 [INFO/Vls]  New admin group
master is ok
2002-01-01 18:38:00 [INFO/Vls]  New admin group
monitor is ok
2002-01-01 18:38:00 [INFO/Vls]  Native administrator
initialised
2002-01-01 18:38:00 [INFO/Vls]  Telnet server
initialised

[kill]

2002-01-01 18:44:40 [WARN/Vls]  Received SIGTERM:
Software termination signal, launching shutdown
sequence...
2002-01-01 18:44:40 [INFO/Vls]  Telnet server stopped
2002-01-01 18:44:41 [INFO/Vls]  Native administrator
stopped
2002-01-01 18:44:41 [INFO/Vls]  Native administrator
started
2002-01-01 18:44:41 [INFO/Vls]  Stopping the manager
2002-01-01 18:44:41 [INFO/Vls]  Manager stopped
2002-01-01 18:44:41 [INFO/Vls]  Destroying
administrator module
2002-01-01 18:44:41 [INFO/Vls]  Shutdowning all the
opened sessions...
2002-01-01 18:44:41 [INFO/Vls]  Telnet server
destroyed
2002-01-01 18:44:41 [INFO/Vls]  Shutdowning all the
opened sessions...
2002-01-01 18:44:41 [INFO/Vls]  Native administrator
destroyed
2002-01-01 18:44:41 [INFO/Vls]  Destroying manager
module
2002-01-01 18:44:41 [INFO/Vls]  Destroying the manager
2002-01-01 18:44:41 [INFO/Vls]  Manager destroyed
[root@localhost ferris]#


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Re: [newbie] AOL CDROM help!

2002-01-01 Per discussione Julian Opificius

How did you install Linux in the first place if not by CD ROM?

julian.
=
At 02:10 PM 1/1/02 -0800, you wrote:
Pls help!

I mounted my cdrom using mount /mnt/cdrom then
i went to the directory using cd /mnt/cdrom when i command  ls
no directories or files found
when i command mount /dev/cdrom an error occured saying
fs: iso9660 is not supported by your kernel
so how will i installed packages so my cdrom may be supported and what
packages should i install.How can I also install it my cdrom  does not
mount-I cannot use my cdrom.

Any help will be gladly appreciated.
Thanks and God Bless!

Happy New Year!!!2002 from AOL Systems!
Mabuhay ang Pilipinas!

Respectfully
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Re: [newbie] SO 5.2 won't share

2002-01-01 Per discussione Sridhar Dhanapalan

On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 07:04:11 -0800, Grant Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am trying to install SO 5.2 from the 8.0 CD. The setup program is in the 
 KDE menu. I want to put the program where it can be installed once and used 
 by all. SO seems to want to have a full copy of itself in each user directory.
 I have tried Network install and Workstation install. As root I can get the 
 program to install to /usr/share/staroffice52
 As user I cannot access it without the setup program running again.
 How do I get the program files in one directory and the user files in 
 another. I did not see that option.

You need to run the initial setup routine with the /net flag.

-- 
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have to make everybody happy, but it has to be clean both conceptually and from
a pure implementation standpoint. I don't want a hack that works.
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Re: [newbie] Capturing audio

2002-01-01 Per discussione Neville Cobb

grecord came with md 8.1 and should already be on your system.

Nev
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John Rye wrote:

Hi all,

I'm looking for a usable program for capturing audio from my
soundcard.

I've hunted all over Freshmeat and Google but don't seem to
be abble to find anything which compiles let alone works!!

If it's of any help I'm running Mandrake 8.1, kernel 2.4.16.
Biggest problem is locating the device file, everything seems
to be looking for /dev/dsp but doesn't find it :-(((

Any suggestions most welcome

Cheers

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Re: [newbie] A sound question!

2002-01-01 Per discussione Guy Zelck

Hi Mark,

Well, if devfsd would have worked properly the devices would have been 
created dynamically.
You should disable the devfsd alltogether as it fucks up in every way. 
You do this by taking out the devfsd mention from your lilo.conf file. 
After editing run 'lilo' off course.
Then reboot. If you use cmd MAKEDEV you can re-create the missing devices.


I have scsi  ide buses and devfsd fucked up big time for me too.

Guy.

Mark Evans wrote:

Hi

I have found out today that I have /dev/sound/dsp set-up instead of /dev/dsp. 
Some apps I have found require /dev/dsp.  

So I created a link to /dev/dsp from /dev/sound/dsp and then these apps 
started to generate sound for the first time.  

After re-booting the link had gone!  

So I have two questions.

1.  Where can I configure /dev/dsp to be permanent?
2.  I have the following in /dev/sound do all of these have to be in /dev?

audio  dsp  dspW  midi  mixer  sequencer  sequencer2

Thanks
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Re: [newbie] c compiler and its problem in 8.0

2002-01-01 Per discussione Len Lawrence

On Mon, 31 Dec 2001, Pen Gwynne wrote:

 Eric,

 Please do gcc -v or cc -v and tell us what it says.  I have the following
 4 line program:

   int main()
 {
 printf(Hello World!);
 }
- snip --
 Now let me say this.  My prompt is the normal, or default

   [pen@myhost dir]$

 When I run the program what I see is:

   Hello World![pen@myhost dir]$

For a start you could try adding \n to the end of the string.  That should
separate the message and the prompt.
printf(Hello World!\n);
 You should also be aware of one more funny thing that Linux does.  After
 running a.out, the hello world example, As soon as I type something,
 anything, then the hello world program output and my prompt line:

   Hello World![pen@myhost dir]$

 is comes just:

   [pen@myhost dir]$
Not sure I understand what you are saying, but any output from the
program will be buffered until the shell sees a newline.

 It looks like the program never printed anything at all.

 Hope this helps.
 /Pen



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Re: [newbie] AOL CDROM help!

2002-01-01 Per discussione jal

On Tuesday 01 January 2002 03:04, you wrote:
 How did you install Linux in the first place if not by CD ROM?

 julian.
 =

 At 02:10 PM 1/1/02 -0800, you wrote:
 Pls help!
 
 I mounted my cdrom using mount /mnt/cdrom then
 i went to the directory using cd /mnt/cdrom when i command  ls
 no directories or files found
 when i command mount /dev/cdrom an error occured saying
 fs: iso9660 is not supported by your kernel
 so how will i installed packages so my cdrom may be supported and what
 packages should i install.How can I also install it my cdrom  does not
 mount-I cannot use my cdrom.
 
 Any help will be gladly appreciated.
 Thanks and God Bless!
 
 Happy New Year!!!2002 from AOL Systems!
 Mabuhay ang Pilipinas!
 
 Respectfully
 AOL
 
 
 
 
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..(Network install o hd.img?)...
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Re: [newbie] USB smart media reader

2002-01-01 Per discussione poogle

On Monday 31 December 2001 19:36 pm, you wrote:
 On Mon, 31 Dec 2001, poogle wrote:
  I may be completely off base here but I'll try anyway, I have an Olympus
  USB camera which uses Smartmedia cards but is not recognised by any of
  the photo packages.
  Thanks to Ric Tibbets I am able to download from it by doing the
  following:-
 
  modprobe usb-storage
  mount /dev/sda1 -t vfat /mnt/cam (where /mnt/cam is the mountpoint I
  created)
 
  Checking Hardrake it shows my camera as a disk called /dev/sda, note it
  does not show it as /dev/sda1 which it is but then HDs are shown as
  /dev/hda  /dev/hdb, again no drive number. It may be that you need to
  modprobe usb-storage and then mount it as /dev/sda1
 
  BTW, I don't know anything about saving to such a device.

 A drive doesn't have a number, partitions have numbers.

Yes, I know that, I apparently  expressed myself badly and was less clear 
than I had hoped but the poster I replied to appeared to have been misled by 
HardDrake showing his device as /dev/sda and had then set up fstab using 
/dev/sda. The reference to hard drives having no numbers shown in HardDrake 
was intended to emphasise the point that HardDrake only shows drive names and 
not partitions within those drives.

-- 

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Re: [newbie] AOL CDROM help!

2002-01-01 Per discussione AOL Systems

ok i install Linux by CD i know that im just asking that I cannot mount the
cdrom when im inside the Linux Systems already (KDE and Gnome)
I dont want to reinstall again so  what will I do so i will not re-Install
again
Thanks

Respectfully
AOL
www.aolsystems.com

Julian Opificius wrote:

 How did you install Linux in the first place if not by CD ROM?

 julian.
 =
 At 02:10 PM 1/1/02 -0800, you wrote:
 Pls help!
 
 I mounted my cdrom using mount /mnt/cdrom then
 i went to the directory using cd /mnt/cdrom when i command  ls
 no directories or files found
 when i command mount /dev/cdrom an error occured saying
 fs: iso9660 is not supported by your kernel
 so how will i installed packages so my cdrom may be supported and what
 packages should i install.How can I also install it my cdrom  does not
 mount-I cannot use my cdrom.
 
 Any help will be gladly appreciated.
 Thanks and God Bless!
 
 Happy New Year!!!2002 from AOL Systems!
 Mabuhay ang Pilipinas!
 
 Respectfully
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Re: [newbie] RE: Office Suites

2002-01-01 Per discussione Ed Tharp

On Tuesday 01 January 2002 01:38, you wrote:
 On 31 Dec 2001 20:05:55 -0500, Michael Leone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I think Civileme's point was that if/when the UCITA law passes in
  Washington, USA, then Microsoft (headquartered in Washington) will be
  able to make a minor change to their proprietary .doc/.xls/whatever
  file formats, and it will be illegal for Sun or anyone else to
  reverse-engineer that file format to create a new filter for their
  competing office suite.
 
  Sun licenses the file formats from MS, don't they? They didn't
  reverse-engineer them, I thought.

 Nope, they are reverse-engineered. That's why it has taken so long for the
 filters to reach their present level of quality (which is very good).
Calling it reverse engineered is a little of a dangerous reach, (in my 
HUMBLE opinion), my guess is a lot of the info is from APIs released by M$, 
to allow third parties to be able to write macros and other programs that 
will work with M$ applications, the rest would be obvious to someone 
studying, say, word processor programing.  



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Re: [newbie] java applets on konqueror

2002-01-01 Per discussione Eric McClure

On Monday 31 December 2001 14:11, you wrote:
Fixed it!

Man that was some work!  The second download worked and was the same file!

Cool, now konqueror can do applets plus a neat addition of a java console!  
All by using sdk1.4.0 beta 3.

take care,
eric l. mcclure

 Ok I think I've tried everything to get the browser to see the applets.

 Even sun's site doesn't load the applet.

 Pointed Konqueror where the java is and nothing.

 I'm using sdk1.4.0beta3 and I know Kaffe doesn't work with the browser
 since I viewed the help files and web site.  The web site made a reference
 to the /opt directory but mine is empty.

 Netscape can see the applet, and mozilla at this moment is updating itself
 to see it too.

 What can I do?
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[newbie] cron message

2002-01-01 Per discussione caspar kennerdale

I have set up a cron job and this is the message i have received

Your terminal lacks the ability to clear the screen or position the cursor.

how vcan i solve this prob?
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[newbie] finding file location

2002-01-01 Per discussione caspar kennerdale

is there away of finding out the location of afile orprogram on the server
via telnet.

I want to execute lynx via cron and thus need to know its location.

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Re: [newbie] RE: Office Suites

2002-01-01 Per discussione Dave Sherman

On Tue, 2002-01-01 at 08:51, robin wrote: 
 Dave Sherman wrote:
 
 [cut]
 
 I think Civileme's point was that if/when the UCITA law passes in
 Washington, USA, then Microsoft (headquartered in Washington) will be
 able to make a minor change to their proprietary .doc/.xls/whatever file
 formats, and it will be illegal for Sun or anyone else to
 reverse-engineer that file format to create a new filter for their
 competing office suite. And if anyone DOES reverse-engineer the file
 format, then MS can sue them to smithereens, and even try to go for a
 prison sentence, since their EULA will carry the force of law.
 
 I can't seriously see this happening.  Microsoft had enough political 
 and economic clout to survive getting sued by Netscape et al., but they 
 don't have the clout to sue Sun - it would be suicidal.

Maybe. But they *could* sue OpenOffice.org, and probably shut it down,
which would effectively slow, if not stop, development of StarOffice as
well.

 I suspect the real reason for the paucity of .doc filters is that it is 
 such a yucky format that writing a good filter is more trouble than it's 
 worth. wv does a passable job but is far from perfect, and even Star 
 Office only got it right with version 6.0.

It is a yucky *and* an undocumented format. This means it requires
anyone to reverse engineer it before they can write a filter for it. If
you check the OpenOffice.org website, you will see that they were forced
to re-write the MS Office filters from scratch, because the StarOffice
filters were under an NDA from Sun. It wasn't because of MS licensing,
but Sun itself was standing in the way (this may, on second thought, be
a carry-over from Sun's purchase of StarOffice from the German Star
company that originally developed the software).

But here's another scary example, to which Civileme alluded: Samba. What
will happen if/when UCITA passes in Washington state, and Microsoft sues
the Samba team for reverse-engineering their proprietary software and
network protocols? If we are lucky, Samba will be able to continue
working outside the US, in one or more countries that are willing to
largely ignore US extradition requests (or more accurately, that are so
difficult to deal with that MS won't even bother). And any US-based
Samba developers will need to leave the team, because MS can go after
them individually -- again, for both monetary compensation and
imprisonment. One need only look at Adobe's ridiculous actions with
regard to Dmitri Sklyarov to realize that MS will not hesitate to try
the same thing with any known Samba developer that they can reach.

 Civileme's further point, to which Doug balked, was that we should all
 be looking to move away from MS' (or anyone else's, for that matter)
 proprietary file formats, as a pre-emptive move so that we are not
 locked into yet another MS monopoly if/when UCITA passes. In our own
 self-interest, we should be changing to open file formats, like xml
 (which StarOffice 6.0 uses, by the way).
 
 We need .doc filters as a stopgap.  No matter how often I tell my 
 colleagues that I refuse to read .doc files, sometimes I just have to. 
 XML is a reasonable lingua franca, but for my own purposes, I'm still a 
 LaTeX man.

I agree that we need the filters for now, but it would still be wise to
stop using MS' proprietary formats ASAP. As far as using LaTeX, is there
a free and easy to use LaTeX editor/word processor for Windows and
Macintosh? Just curious -- actually, I thought LaTeX was a document
layout/markup language for professional publishing, but not something
typically used for word processing. I am betting you need to convert
your documents to a different format for others (non-Linux users) to
read, yes?

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Re: [newbie] no permission to mount cdrom

2002-01-01 Per discussione Harm Bathoorn

On Tuesday 01 January 2002 17:49, you wrote:
 Hello,
 I can't seem to figure out why my cdrom
 is unaccessable from my sub user accounts.
 Because its a removable disk how to I change the permissions?
 I've tried changing my /mnt/cdrom/ link.

 here is my fstab
 /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom auto
 user,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,exec,codepage=850,ro,noauto 0 0

 I can reach it from root..
 thank you.
 chris

Try adding 'cdrom' to the 'groups' of the specific users through 'Userdrake' 

Good luck,
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[newbie] problem shutting down

2002-01-01 Per discussione Paul Rodríguez

On my 8.1 system I have recently encountered a problem shutting down the
computer.  I'm not sure what could be causing the problem since I rarely
need to power down, but when I choose 'halt', the system powers down and
then right up again.  This didn't used to happen.

Booting into Windows98 (something that's only been done a few times on
this box) shuts down without a problem (of course sometimes it crashes
while running).  So it's not a hardware issue.  What could be causing
this?

-Paul Rodríguez


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Re: [newbie] problem shutting down

2002-01-01 Per discussione Onur Kucuk


PR On my 8.1 system I have recently encountered a problem shutting down the
PR computer.  I'm not sure what could be causing the problem since I rarely
PR need to power down, but when I choose 'halt', the system powers down and
PR then right up again.  This didn't used to happen.

PR Booting into Windows98 (something that's only been done a few times on
PR this box) shuts down without a problem (of course sometimes it crashes
PR while running).  So it's not a hardware issue.  What could be causing
PR this?

PR -Paul Rodríguez

Had you ever shut down your pc from linux normally ?

I have a p4 on i845 board and it does not shut down (o does but I dont
know how ) so it may not be supported.

Usually I would recommend you check your apm stuff, both in linux and
bios. If I remember it right, it should be enabled.

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Re: [newbie] AOL CDROM help!

2002-01-01 Per discussione Julian Opificius

Well the error you quoted says that iso9660 is not supported by the kernel. 
Did you create a custom kernel? CD-ROM support must, I think, be explicitly 
excluded from a default configuration.

Of course, I was about to say get a generic kernel from the distro CD ...

If you have the package manager installed, I believe it will connect via 
Internet to the Mandrake site and show available packages, one of which I 
would imagine would be CD-ROM support.

Someone with more experience than me should be able to add more details here.

julian.
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At 08:01 PM 1/1/02 -0800, you wrote:
ok i install Linux by CD i know that im just asking that I cannot mount the
cdrom when im inside the Linux Systems already (KDE and Gnome)
I dont want to reinstall again so  what will I do so i will not re-Install
again
Thanks

Respectfully
AOL
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Julian Opificius wrote:

  How did you install Linux in the first place if not by CD ROM?
 
  julian.
  =
  At 02:10 PM 1/1/02 -0800, you wrote:
  Pls help!
  
  I mounted my cdrom using mount /mnt/cdrom then
  i went to the directory using cd /mnt/cdrom when i command  ls
  no directories or files found
  when i command mount /dev/cdrom an error occured saying
  fs: iso9660 is not supported by your kernel
  so how will i installed packages so my cdrom may be supported and what
  packages should i install.How can I also install it my cdrom  does not
  mount-I cannot use my cdrom.
  
  Any help will be gladly appreciated.
  Thanks and God Bless!
  
  Happy New Year!!!2002 from AOL Systems!
  Mabuhay ang Pilipinas!
  
  Respectfully
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Re: [newbie] RE: Office Suites

2002-01-01 Per discussione robin



Dave Sherman wrote:


I agree that we need the filters for now, but it would still be wise to
stop using MS' proprietary formats ASAP. As far as using LaTeX, is there
a free and easy to use LaTeX editor/word processor for Windows and
Macintosh? Just curious -- actually, I thought LaTeX was a document
layout/markup language for professional publishing, but not something
typically used for word processing. I am betting you need to convert
your documents to a different format for others (non-Linux users) to
read, yes?

LyX is very easy to use (see www.lyx.org) and is available for Windows 
(not sure about Mac). It uses LaTeX as its default backend (which makes 
Windows installation a bit of a pain, since you have to install (La)TeX 
first).  Sure, I have to convert to something else (usually PDF) is I 
want to send files to Windows users, but it's a small price to pay.  One 
advantage of LaTeX is that it's very easy to convert to whatever format 
you want: DVI, PS, PDF, HTML, SGML - you name it.

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Re: [newbie] no permission to mount cdrom

2002-01-01 Per discussione Gerald Waugh

On Tuesday 01 January 2002 11:49 am, chris huston wrote:
 Hello,
 I can't seem to figure out why my cdrom
 is unaccessable from my sub user accounts.
 Because its a removable disk how to I change the permissions?
 I've tried changing my /mnt/cdrom/ link.

 here is my fstab
 /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom auto
 user,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,exec,codepage=850,ro,noauto 0 0


my fstab entry is below: (and a user can mount the cdrom)
/dev/hdb /mnt/cdrom auto 
user,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,exec,codepage=850,ro,noauto 0 0
The only diff I see is that hdb instead of hdc
The cdrom is normally hdb where hdc is normally a harddrive

I used   mount /mnt/cdrom
and it mounts.
Only the user that mounts it can umount it.

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Re: [newbie] finding file location

2002-01-01 Per discussione Gerald Waugh

On Tuesday 01 January 2002 12:10 pm, caspar kennerdale wrote:
 is there away of finding out the location of afile orprogram on the server
 via telnet.

 I want to execute lynx via cron and thus need to know its location.


uselocate lynx(may need to run updatedb)
or 
find / -name lynx

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Re: [newbie] AOL CDROM help!

2002-01-01 Per discussione tester

AOL Systems wrote:

ok i install Linux by CD i know that im just asking that I cannot mount the
cdrom when im inside the Linux Systems already (KDE and Gnome)
I dont want to reinstall again so  what will I do so i will not re-Install
again
Thanks

Respectfully
AOL
www.aolsystems.com

Julian Opificius wrote:

How did you install Linux in the first place if not by CD ROM?

julian.
=
At 02:10 PM 1/1/02 -0800, you wrote:

Pls help!

I mounted my cdrom using mount /mnt/cdrom then
i went to the directory using cd /mnt/cdrom when i command  ls
no directories or files found
when i command mount /dev/cdrom an error occured saying
fs: iso9660 is not supported by your kernel
so how will i installed packages so my cdrom may be supported and what
packages should i install.How can I also install it my cdrom  does not
mount-I cannot use my cdrom.

Any help will be gladly appreciated.
Thanks and God Bless!

Happy New Year!!!2002 from AOL Systems!
Mabuhay ang Pilipinas!

Respectfully
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It is very strange to install from a cd and not get iso9660 support in 
the kernel.  What distribution are you using, and what version?

Your reluctance to reinstall suggests it is not Mandrake, but that's OK. 
 People here will try to help anyway.

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Re: [newbie] RE: Office Suites

2002-01-01 Per discussione tester

Dave Sherman wrote:

On Tue, 2002-01-01 at 08:51, robin wrote: 

Dave Sherman wrote:

[cut]

I think Civileme's point was that if/when the UCITA law passes in
Washington, USA, then Microsoft (headquartered in Washington) will be
able to make a minor change to their proprietary .doc/.xls/whatever file
formats, and it will be illegal for Sun or anyone else to
reverse-engineer that file format to create a new filter for their
competing office suite. And if anyone DOES reverse-engineer the file
format, then MS can sue them to smithereens, and even try to go for a
prison sentence, since their EULA will carry the force of law.

I can't seriously see this happening.  Microsoft had enough political 
and economic clout to survive getting sued by Netscape et al., but they 
don't have the clout to sue Sun - it would be suicidal.


Maybe. But they *could* sue OpenOffice.org, and probably shut it down,
which would effectively slow, if not stop, development of StarOffice as
well.

I suspect the real reason for the paucity of .doc filters is that it is 
such a yucky format that writing a good filter is more trouble than it's 
worth. wv does a passable job but is far from perfect, and even Star 
Office only got it right with version 6.0.


It is a yucky *and* an undocumented format. This means it requires
anyone to reverse engineer it before they can write a filter for it. If
you check the OpenOffice.org website, you will see that they were forced
to re-write the MS Office filters from scratch, because the StarOffice
filters were under an NDA from Sun. It wasn't because of MS licensing,
but Sun itself was standing in the way (this may, on second thought, be
a carry-over from Sun's purchase of StarOffice from the German Star
company that originally developed the software).

But here's another scary example, to which Civileme alluded: Samba. What
will happen if/when UCITA passes in Washington state, and Microsoft sues
the Samba team for reverse-engineering their proprietary software and
network protocols? If we are lucky, Samba will be able to continue
working outside the US, in one or more countries that are willing to
largely ignore US extradition requests (or more accurately, that are so
difficult to deal with that MS won't even bother). And any US-based
Samba developers will need to leave the team, because MS can go after
them individually -- again, for both monetary compensation and
imprisonment. One need only look at Adobe's ridiculous actions with
regard to Dmitri Sklyarov to realize that MS will not hesitate to try
the same thing with any known Samba developer that they can reach.

Civileme's further point, to which Doug balked, was that we should all
be looking to move away from MS' (or anyone else's, for that matter)
proprietary file formats, as a pre-emptive move so that we are not
locked into yet another MS monopoly if/when UCITA passes. In our own
self-interest, we should be changing to open file formats, like xml
(which StarOffice 6.0 uses, by the way).

We need .doc filters as a stopgap.  No matter how often I tell my 
colleagues that I refuse to read .doc files, sometimes I just have to. 
XML is a reasonable lingua franca, but for my own purposes, I'm still a 
LaTeX man.


I agree that we need the filters for now, but it would still be wise to
stop using MS' proprietary formats ASAP. As far as using LaTeX, is there
a free and easy to use LaTeX editor/word processor for Windows and
Macintosh? Just curious -- actually, I thought LaTeX was a document
layout/markup language for professional publishing, but not something
typically used for word processing. I am betting you need to convert
your documents to a different format for others (non-Linux users) to
read, yes?

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Well, the output of Tetex/LaTeX, if printed to a file, is postscript 
format, printer-ready just about anywhere, and readable by adobe acrobat 
reader and other programs.

LyX is a document processor close to WYSIWYG that runs cross-platform 
(yes, windows too) which is indispensible if you are dealing with lots 
of special symbols, margin notes, footnotes, and so on and you don't 
want to learn native LaTeX commands.

KLyX was written for the Qt widget set and X ain a marathon session to 
show how effective Qt widgets could be.  It has great potential if 
developed.

A very nice translator was written quite a while ago called SDF, which 
can convert postscript, SGML, HTML, pdf and oher formats.  It also has 
its own metalanguage for making documents.  It too runs on Windows as 
well as on others though some Microsoft license agreements might be 
violated in the latest versions of windows (the Netkit is licensed 
against living under the same roof with GPL software and Perl--at least 
Microsoft's atttorneys haven't required that all Microsoft competitiors 
be addressed as the 

Re: [newbie] no permission to mount cdrom

2002-01-01 Per discussione Julian Opificius

If I understand that what you're asking for is for multiple users to be 
able to mount and unmount CD-ROMS, then you must change user to users 
in fstab.
See man mount.

julian.

At 01:30 PM 1/1/02 -0500, you wrote:
On Tuesday 01 January 2002 11:49 am, chris huston wrote:
  Hello,
  I can't seem to figure out why my cdrom
  is unaccessable from my sub user accounts.
  Because its a removable disk how to I change the permissions?
  I've tried changing my /mnt/cdrom/ link.
 
  here is my fstab
  /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom auto
  user,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,exec,codepage=850,ro,noauto 0 0
 

my fstab entry is below: (and a user can mount the cdrom)
/dev/hdb /mnt/cdrom auto
user,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,exec,codepage=850,ro,noauto 0 0
The only diff I see is that hdb instead of hdc
The cdrom is normally hdb where hdc is normally a harddrive

I used   mount /mnt/cdrom
and it mounts.
Only the user that mounts it can umount it.

Gerald

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Re: [newbie] no permission to mount cdrom

2002-01-01 Per discussione Gerald Waugh

On Tuesday 01 January 2002 01:34 pm, Julian Opificius wrote:
 If I understand that what you're asking for is for multiple users to be
 able to mount and unmount CD-ROMS, then you must change user to users
 in fstab.
 See man mount.


using users will allow any user to umount the filesystem

using user allows any user to mount the filesystem but only the user that 
mounted the filesystem to umount it.

Which sounds like a good idea!

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Re: [newbie] c compiler and its problem in 8.0

2002-01-01 Per discussione Lee Roberts

What warnings are you getting? 

Anyway, you need to add a return value unless you change to function from
int main() to void main(). void main() is considered to be bad
programming though. Add return 0; as your last line in the main()
function. That will return the integer value of 0 (zero) to the system and
is required if you use int main(). The int in int main() means that you
are returning an integer value to the operating system. You should have a
statement of #include stdio.h at the beginning of the program, also.
Usually, a compiler will complain unless you include a header file with the
function prototype and the compiler normally complains if you declare a
function with a return value but don't provide a return value statement
within the body of the function (the data types have to match also). 

At 05:52 PM 12/31/2001 -0500, eric wrote:
Dear Pen:
  I tried your 4 lines program, it still not print out even I use gcc -v
or cc -v to compile, actually after the gcc -v I got a lot of junks
waring.  

  Same thing, at bash it is not be printed, but it can be shown at csh.
rpm -q gcc
2.96-0.48mdk (probably straight from 8.0 standard edition)
rpm -q bash
bash-2.04-18mdk(straight from 8.0 standard edition)

  you may check your bash in your 8.1 , is that same edition as mine in
8.0?  may be that is the problem.

eric, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Pen Gwynne wrote:
 
 Eric,
 
 Please do gcc -v or cc -v and tell us what it says.  I have the
following
 4 line program:
 
 int main()
   {
   printf(Hello World!);
   }
 
 It compiles and run properly, even without the normal #include files.
I am
 using a straight Mandrake 8.1 installation and my version of gcc is 2.96
 2731.
 
 Now let me say this.  My prompt is the normal, or default
 
 [pen@myhost dir]$
 
 When I run the program what I see is:
 
 Hello World![pen@myhost dir]$
 
 You should also be aware of one more funny thing that Linux does.  After
 running a.out, the hello world example, As soon as I type something,
 anything, then the hello world program output and my prompt line:
 
 Hello World![pen@myhost dir]$
 
 is comes just:
 
 [pen@myhost dir]$
 
 It looks like the program never printed anything at all.
 
 Hope this helps.
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[newbie] need help on erase glibc-devel-2.2.4-18mdk rpm

2002-01-01 Per discussione eric

Dear linux-mandrake users:

  I ever upgrade glibc-devel from 2.2.2 to 2.2.4 but it seem not nice to
compile my c++ program-many compile error, so I decide to erase 2.2.4
then reinstall 2.2.2

but when I do erase by rpm -e glibc-devel-2.2.4

[root@localhost ~/c_program]# rpm -e glibc-devel-2.2.4
error: removing these packages would break dependencies:
glibc-devel is needed by gcc-c++-2.96-0.48mdk
glibc-devel is needed by gcc-c++-2.96-0.69mdk
glibc-devel is needed by gcc-2.96-0.48mdk
glibc-devel is needed by gcc-g77-2.96-0.48mdk
glibc-devel is needed by gcc-objc-2.96-0.48mdk
glibc-devel is needed by gcc3.0-3.0.1-1mdk

how should I let it down then reinstall 8.0 cd's 2.2.2?

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Re: [newbie] need help on erase glibc-devel-2.2.4-18mdk rpm

2002-01-01 Per discussione Paul

On Tue, 01 Jan 2002 07:48:32 -0500, eric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Dear linux-mandrake users:

  I ever upgrade glibc-devel from 2.2.2 to 2.2.4 but it seem not nice to
compile my c++ program-many compile error, so I decide to erase 2.2.4
then reinstall 2.2.2

but when I do erase by rpm -e glibc-devel-2.2.4

You could use the -force option with rpm.

Paul

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Re: [newbie] A sound question!

2002-01-01 Per discussione Guy Zelck



Ed Tharp wrote:

On Tuesday 01 January 2002 05:38, you wrote:

Hi Mark,

Well, if devfsd would have worked properly the devices would have been
created dynamically.
You should disable the devfsd alltogether as it fcks up in every way.
You do this by taking out the devfsd mention from your lilo.conf file.
After editing run 'lilo' off course.
Then reboot. If you use cmd MAKEDEV you can re-create the missing devices.


I have scsi  ide buses and devfsd fucked up big time for me too.


so how do you REALLLY feel about devfs? 

It sucks for now, it's a pain in the ass, it's too early to use it ...


I have not tried taking out the devfsd mention from your lilo.conf file.
I have tried changing the mount to nomount and rebooting, and have tried 
changing it back to mount (running /sbin/lilo, all as root, and rebooting)

Have tried, have tried... Yes, and then?

 
I have found that if you need a thing to load up each time you boot (kinda 
like adding it to autoexec.bat in dos 5.x +) you could add it as one of the 
last lines to the file /etc/rc.d/rc.local and save that file (also as root)

where does this come from? How does it relate to the previous. What is 
your point?

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[newbie] compile gcc error, need help

2002-01-01 Per discussione eric

Dear linux programers:

  what may cause compiler error
[root@localhost c_program]# gcc hello.c
as: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.2.3' not found (required by
/usr/lib/libbfd-2.11.92.0.12.so)

hope to see your help
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Re: [newbie] problem shutting down

2002-01-01 Per discussione Guy Zelck



Onur Kucuk wrote:

PR On my 8.1 system I have recently encountered a problem shutting down the
PR computer.  I'm not sure what could be causing the problem since I rarely
PR need to power down, but when I choose 'halt', the system powers down and
PR then right up again.  This didn't used to happen.

PR Booting into Windows98 (something that's only been done a few times on
PR this box) shuts down without a problem (of course sometimes it crashes
PR while running).  So it's not a hardware issue.  What could be causing
PR this?

PR -Paul Rodríguez

Had you ever shut down your pc from linux normally ?

halt was ok. The classic Unix way is shutdown -y -gO -i0. Another 
variant of the shutdown command is 'shutdown -h now'.

Guy






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[newbie] how to get souce code from two patch files?

2002-01-01 Per discussione eric

Dear linux programers:

  two files,  gcc-i386-address-cost.patch.bz2 which I already get rid of
bz2
and
gcc-i386-address-cost.patch.bz2.orig
in my /usr/src/RPMS/SOURCE directory
I get them from souce code gcc of 8.0, and 7.2(with orig) 

welcome any linux programers's help

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[newbie] Now able to browse Netscape via kppp

2002-01-01 Per discussione minhaz_islam

I would like to thank everyone involved in helping me browse the Internet via 
kppp dial-up connection using a 56k external modem on my Linux Mandrake 7.1 
PC.
I also emailed my ISP (ic24) who told me their DNS settings had changed, and 
so by entering these new DNS settings, I was able to connect and browse 
Netscape.




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[newbie] Now able to browse Netscape via kppp

2002-01-01 Per discussione minhaz_islam

I would like to thank everyone involved in helping me browse the Internet via 
kppp dial-up connection using a 56k external modem on my
  Linux Mandrake 7.1 PC.
  I also emailed my ISP (ic24) who told me their DNS settings had 
changed, and so by entering these new DNS settings, I was able to
  connect and browse Netscape.




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Re: [newbie] Rune errors my machine

2002-01-01 Per discussione Ronald J. Hall

Grant Fraser wrote:
 
 Experience with Windows has taught me to NEVER run anything DEMO. Ever. I
 wont do it with Linux either. A demo is made by ripping a chunk out of a full
 program and cauterizing the dangly bits.
 
 I hope you liked the magazine.
 
 Grant
 
 On Monday 31 December 2001 03:47, you wrote:
  I got a Linux magazine that had a demo software CD on it.
  I tried running a game, Rune, and had problems.
 
  When I run the run_demo.x86 or the run_demo it locks up my system. It looks
  like it starts to launch the game but just hoses my computer.
 
  How do I troubleshoot this? What could be wrong?
  Is it my Mandrake8.0 config or the game demo?
 
  Thanks
 
  -Allen

I ran the Rune demo here, under 8.0 and 8.1 for quite awhile before I bought
the full game (and Halls of Valhalla upgrade). Ran just fine, but you have to
use the Loki installer software with it.

Now mind you, thats on my machine with a Geforce 2 video card. On my 11 year
old's machine with a Voodoo 3000 card, it plays the sound perfectly, but we
get no video... so it might be picky about video cards. 

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Re: [newbie] Resolving HW conflicts

2002-01-01 Per discussione Ronald J. Hall

Mark Shaw wrote:
 
 Hi All,
 
 Short version: I need a general methodology for determining what
 resources my peripherals are using; i.e. a list of files to
 examine or diagnostics to run that will tell me that my soundcard
 is using IRQ n / port m / DMA x / whatever y, my modem is using
 IRQ etc etc

Mark, from a shell - just type in cat /proc/interrupts and you will get a
list of IRQ's and whats using them!

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Re: [newbie] A sound question!

2002-01-01 Per discussione Ed Tharp

On Tuesday 01 January 2002 15:27, you wrote:


 I have found that if you need a thing to load up each time you boot (kinda
 like adding it to autoexec.bat in dos 5.x +) you could add it as one of
  the last lines to the file /etc/rc.d/rc.local and save that file (also
  as root)

 where does this come from? How does it relate to the previous. What is
 your point?

 Guy
since I / we was / are  answering a question from Mark Evans, and in the 
question he said I created a link to /dev/dsp from /dev/sound/dsp and then 
these apps started to generate sound for the first time.  

After re-booting the link had gone!  I have two questions.

1.  Where can I configure /dev/dsp to be permanent?



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Re: [newbie] finding file location

2002-01-01 Per discussione daRcmaTTeR

On Tue, 1 Jan 2002 13:34:33 -0500
Gerald Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] studiouisly spake these words to ponder:

 On Tuesday 01 January 2002 12:10 pm, caspar kennerdale wrote:
  is there away of finding out the location of afile orprogram on the
  server via telnet.
 
  I want to execute lynx via cron and thus need to know its location.
 
 
 uselocate lynx(may need to run updatedb)
 or 
 find / -name lynx
 

how about   whereis lynx  ?

[mdw1982@mdw1982 mdw1982]$ whereis lynx
lynx: /usr/bin/lynx /etc/lynx.cfg /etc/lynx.lss /usr/share/lynx 
/usr/share/man/man1/lynx.1.bz2

works like a charm.

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Re: [newbie] RE: Office Suites

2002-01-01 Per discussione daRcmaTTeR

On Tue, 1 Jan 2002 09:12:25 -0500
Ed Tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] studiouisly spake these words to ponder:

 On Tuesday 01 January 2002 01:38, you wrote:
  On 31 Dec 2001 20:05:55 -0500, Michael Leone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote: I think Civileme's point was that if/when the UCITA law
  passes in Washington, USA, then Microsoft (headquartered in
  Washington) will be able to make a minor change to their
  proprietary .doc/.xls/whatever file formats, and it will be
  illegal for Sun or anyone else to reverse-engineer that file
  format to create a new filter for their competing office suite.
  
   Sun licenses the file formats from MS, don't they? They didn't
   reverse-engineer them, I thought.
 
  Nope, they are reverse-engineered. That's why it has taken so long
  for the filters to reach their present level of quality (which is
  very good). Calling it reverse engineered is a little of a
  dangerous reach, (in my HUMBLE opinion), my guess is a lot of the
  info is from APIs released by M$, to allow third parties to be able
  to write macros and other programs that will work with M$
  applications, the rest would be obvious to someone studying, say,
  word processor programing.  

I don't say this lightly, or with any reservation or apology at all. I
think it's past time to just tell MS to take a fly leap on a rolling
donut and move away from them in mass. For some it may be a bit
difficult, but not impossible. If we don't we've only got ourselves to
blame for the feeling of being held hostage by their proprietary
systems.

I for one am going to begin recommending, and loudly, to my superiors
that its time we begin productivity migration away from MS. There just
isn't any future in it. O, well, _their_ future, but certainly not one
of choice and freedom.

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Re: [newbie] A sound question!

2002-01-01 Per discussione Mark Evans

Thanks Guys.

I looked into devfsd and lilo.conf, but thought it look a little too 
confusing  I have more experience of shell programming over lilo 
config.

So opted to creating the link in /etc/rc.d/rc.local.  Also created a links to 
/dev/midi and /dev/mixer.

Once again thanks for the help.

Cheers
Mark Evans

On Tuesday 01 January 2002 10:57 pm, you wrote:
 On Tuesday 01 January 2002 15:27, you wrote:
  I have found that if you need a thing to load up each time you boot
   (kinda like adding it to autoexec.bat in dos 5.x +) you could add it as
   one of the last lines to the file /etc/rc.d/rc.local and save that
   file (also as root)
 
  where does this come from? How does it relate to the previous. What is
  your point?
 
  Guy

 since I / we was / are  answering a question from Mark Evans, and in the
 question he said I created a link to /dev/dsp from /dev/sound/dsp and then
 these apps started to generate sound for the first time.

 After re-booting the link had gone!  I have two questions.
 
 1.  Where can I configure /dev/dsp to be permanent?



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Re: [newbie] USB smart media reader

2002-01-01 Per discussione Bryan Tyson

On Sunday 30 December 2001 23:27, Terry C wrote:

 This is the response I get when attempting to mount
 this device:
 mount -t vfat /dev/sda /media/camera
 mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on
 /dev/sda, or too many mounted file systems

Try sda1, not just sda. It's like mounting a HD, where you have to 
include a partition number.

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[newbie] problem correctly detecting cdrom

2002-01-01 Per discussione mr_tortoise

I'm have problems mounting my cdrom.  I assume that supermount was installed 
on the system. I have tried mounting the cdrom drive at the command line and 
using konqueror with no success.  I have two cdroms installed - a TEAC CDRW 
and a generic cdrom that did not work in windows, so I am only concerned with 
with getting the TEAC to work.  It was working OK with a default install of 
Mandrake 8.0.  When I run HardDrake 3 cdrom devices are detected:

1) Model: 40X CD-ROM
Device: /dev/hdd
Bus Type: ATAPI/IDE
2) Model: CD-W58E
Device: /dev/hdc
Bus Type: ATAPI/IDE
3)Vendor: TEAC
Model: CD-W58E
Device: /dev/scd0
Bus Type: SCSI

Seems that HardDrake is detecting the TEAC drive twice.  Also, the TEAC drive 
is not a SCSI drive (I think I would have remembered installing a SCSI card 
and a big chunk of change leaving my bank account!)

Here is my /etc/fstab that I have not edited:

/dev/hda9 / ext2 defaults 1 1
none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0
/mnt/cdrom /mnt/cdrom supermount 
dev=/dev/scd0,fs=iso9660,exec,ro,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850 0 
0/dev/hdd /mnt/cdrom2 auto 
user,iocharset=iso8859-1,exec,codepage=850,ro,noauto 0 0
/dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto 
user,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,exec,codepage=850,noauto 0 0
/dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850 0 0
/dev/hda7 /mnt/win_d vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850 0 0
/dev/hdb1 /mnt/win_e vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850 0 0
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
/dev/hda8 swap swap defaults 0 0

In the boot log it looks like a SCSI driver is being loaded for the CD rom:

SCSI subsystem driver Revision: 1.00
scsi0 : SCSI host adapter emulation for IDE ATAPI devices
  Vendor: TEAC  Model: CD-W58E   Rev: 1.0A
  Type:   CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02

Near the end of the log I found this:

SCSI cdrom error : host 0 channel 0 id 0 lun 0 return code = 2800
Info fld=0x10, ILI Current sd0b:00: sense key Illegal Request
Additional sense indicates Illegal mode for this track
 I/O error: dev 0b:00, sector 64
isofs_read_super: bread failed, dev=0b:00, iso_blknum=16, block=16
SCSI cdrom error : host 0 channel 0 id 0 lun 0 return code = 2800
Info fld=0x10, ILI Current sd0b:00: sense key Illegal Request

Actually, the lines Additional sense...  to Info fld=0x10... is repeated 
five or six times.  Also, when I do a ls hd* in /dev hdc is not there but 
when I look for SCSI devices I find scd0.

Any ideas on what I need to do to get the CDrom working?  I know this is a 
lengthy message but I wanted to include all the information that someone who 
really knows hardware and Mandrake would need.

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Re: [newbie] USB smart media reader

2002-01-01 Per discussione Bryan Tyson

On Monday 31 December 2001 00:06, Terry C wrote:

 and received this response:
 mount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist

Be sure you do modprobe usb-storage before trying to mount the CF 
reader.

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Re: [newbie] USB smart media reader

2002-01-01 Per discussione Bryan Tyson

On Monday 31 December 2001 00:38, Terry C wrote:

 MAKDEV, or makdev, or mkdev don't seem to be the
 correct commands. I just keep getting command not
 found.

See if you can do it as root.

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Re: [newbie] RE: Office Suites

2002-01-01 Per discussione Andre Dubuc

On Tuesday 01 January 2002 19:23, you wrote:
 On Tue, 1 Jan 2002 09:12:25 -0500

 Ed Tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] studiouisly spake these words to ponder:
  On Tuesday 01 January 2002 01:38, you wrote:
   On 31 Dec 2001 20:05:55 -0500, Michael Leone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   wrote: I think Civileme's point was that if/when the UCITA law
   passes in Washington, USA, then Microsoft (headquartered in
   Washington) will be able to make a minor change to their
   proprietary .doc/.xls/whatever file formats, and it will be
   illegal for Sun or anyone else to reverse-engineer that file
   format to create a new filter for their competing office suite.
  
Sun licenses the file formats from MS, don't they? They didn't
reverse-engineer them, I thought.
  
   Nope, they are reverse-engineered. That's why it has taken so long
   for the filters to reach their present level of quality (which is
   very good). Calling it reverse engineered is a little of a
   dangerous reach, (in my HUMBLE opinion), my guess is a lot of the
   info is from APIs released by M$, to allow third parties to be able
   to write macros and other programs that will work with M$
   applications, the rest would be obvious to someone studying, say,
   word processor programing.

 I don't say this lightly, or with any reservation or apology at all. I
 think it's past time to just tell MS to take a fly leap on a rolling
 donut and move away from them in mass. For some it may be a bit
 difficult, but not impossible. If we don't we've only got ourselves to
 blame for the feeling of being held hostage by their proprietary
 systems.

 I for one am going to begin recommending, and loudly, to my superiors
 that its time we begin productivity migration away from MS. There just
 isn't any future in it. O, well, _their_ future, but certainly not one
 of choice and freedom.




Just to add my experience with M$ bondage:

ALL my documents, in their original format, were in MS Word for Windows 2.0c 
format. Some I had used in Ventura for DTP. When I decided to switch to 
LM 8.0, I was left in a quandry. All those documents had to be 
converted. Unfortunately, W2W 2.0c file format cannot be imported directly in 
StarOffice 5.2. 

If I had not made a firm decision to continue with LM, I would have backed 
out because of this major import problem. Luckily, I could import rtf -- so 
converted all the documents. My Win partition awaits to be deleted (the kids 
use it for Caesar III).

As far as businesses are concerned, most have upgraded to Word 95/97 etc. So, 
if the switch would be relatively painless. When I ran my 
publication, it was a constant struggle to get different programs to work 
together (in WIn 3.1) . With Linux, I've had few problems, aside from 
learning a new OS. StarOffice, though it's sort of slow, allows me to plan 
what I'm about to do -- at least I have time to grab a coffee while it loads!

From my limited business experience, I would not trade the stability, ease of 
use, and functionality of LM, for all the glitz and promise of continuous 
reboots that I had encountered with M$ products. Furthermore, the threats of 
forced upgrades, dubious registration tactics, and cost of operating MS might 
tip the balance for other businesses to switch from MS. It's just a question 
of time. 

I agree that there isn't any future in it -- but getting businesses to take 
that first step. . . .

Have a Blessed New Year!
Regards,
Andre


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from her mother: PJ's with a whole bunch of cute,smiling little penguins. 
Guess that makes her a Linux-Lady -- Maybe LM should promote these? Or send 
one as a present for Billy's wife???]



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Re: [newbie] USB smart media reader

2002-01-01 Per discussione Bryan Tyson

On Monday 31 December 2001 19:25, Terry C wrote:

 Here's some additional information from harddrake
 under other devices:
 Vendor: Microtech
 Model: CameraMate SmartMedia and CompactFlash reader
 Kernel Module: unknown
 Bus Type: USB
 Informations: This device hasn't been identified by
 HardDrake, please send `/proc/bus/*' files and this
 device ID `07af0006' to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I don't know how important it is for the card reader to be identified, 
but I would think it could be important. I don't know how much these 
card readers differ between different manufacturers, but I can tell you 
the SanDisk CF reader is widely known as working great in Linux. It's 
the one I chose after doing some newsgroup research. Maybe you can try 
a SanDisk and see if you get better results.

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Re: [newbie] no permission to mount cdrom

2002-01-01 Per discussione Michael Viron

Gerald,

This is actually further restricted, because user(s) mounting / umounting
the CDROM must be in the 'cdrom' group.  This also applies to the floppy.
In order to mount / umount the floppy drive, you must be in the floppy group.

Michael

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At 01:58 PM 01/01/2002 -0500, you wrote:
On Tuesday 01 January 2002 01:34 pm, Julian Opificius wrote:
 If I understand that what you're asking for is for multiple users to be
 able to mount and unmount CD-ROMS, then you must change user to users
 in fstab.
 See man mount.


using users will allow any user to umount the filesystem

using user allows any user to mount the filesystem but only the user that 
mounted the filesystem to umount it.

Which sounds like a good idea!

Gerald

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Re: [newbie] Is This (browser type/function) Available in Linux?

2002-01-01 Per discussione Anuerin G. Diaz

On Fri, 28 Dec 2001 13:01:39 -0500
Wes Gregg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Hi,
 
   I just remembered that I saw a program once that allowed you to type a 
 website address (ie, http://gnttype.org for instance) and tell it how many 
 levels deep you wanted it to go and it would start downloading complete 
 pages to your hard drive for offline browsing.  It would allow the option of 
 specifing what type of files to get (html, graphics  sound, etc.) or not as 
 the case would be and if you wanted links followed how deep to go in them as 
 well.
 

snip

 
   Thanks much,
   Wes Gregg
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Registered Linux User # 252649
 
 
 

i think you are referring to httrack. if i remember it correctly their homepage is at 
httrack.com but if that fails, do a search at freshmeat.net. be warned that the linux 
version does not have a gui but the manual written by fred (?) cohen is more than 
enough to get you started.

ciao!


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Re: [newbie] no permission to mount cdrom

2002-01-01 Per discussione Gerald Waugh

On Tuesday 01 January 2002 08:24 pm, Michael Viron wrote:
 Gerald,

 This is actually further restricted, because user(s) mounting / umounting
 the CDROM must be in the 'cdrom' group.  This also applies to the floppy.
 In order to mount / umount the floppy drive, you must be in the floppy
 group.


Yes, I see, it seems that my users are being automagically added to the cdrom 
group, but are not so added to the floppy group?

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[newbie] no 'control center' after InteractiveBastille

2002-01-01 Per discussione ai4a

Hi, After I ran InteractiveBastille I can not get into 'control center'
(the one on the desktop with an icon - not the one under k-menu?). A
window comes up asking for the root password. I enter the password,
press enter,  'control center' just disappears. Any help would be
appreciated.

TNA
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[newbie] knewsticker size of scroll

2002-01-01 Per discussione Bill Winegarden

Hi,
I have knewsticker set up nicely and it even calls up Konq when I click on a 
link. However, my taskbar has grown and knewsticker gets pushed over to the 
far edge. There is just enough visible to barely see a scrolling series of 
messages. There are 2 arrows that shift the taskbar in order to see more of 
what is being hidden. However, when I use the arrows to 'expose' more of the 
scroll window, it doesn't. I get some nice empty real estate but I can still 
only see a small sliver of knewsticker. 
Has this one come up before? Anyone have any ideas?

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Re: [newbie] bash scripting for beginners

2002-01-01 Per discussione Anuerin G. Diaz


the best bash scripting guide that you can have is the one from linuxdoc.org or better 
known as the linux documentation project. the BASH-HowTo is often revised for errors 
and currently equivalent to a 400page book. its more than what you bargained for and a 
rather obsolete version is included with the help packages in your installation. do 
yourself a favor and surf to the linuxdoc site and you can find the pdf and html 
formats there.

HTH.

On Sat, 29 Dec 2001 22:02:14 +0100
Andrei Raevsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello,
 I am looking for a good bash scripting tutorial/manual for BEGINNERS who are 
 new Bash, Linux and scripting.  Ideally - a book in PDF format or something 
 in HTML.
 Please let me know if you know were I could find such an item.
 Thanks!
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Re: [newbie] I'm giving up on XP

2002-01-01 Per discussione Mithrilhall2000

Go into your bios and change your boot up sequence to boot from CD or
something like that. Then you don't need boot disks for Win2k or Win XP.


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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 7:11 AM
Subject: [newbie] I'm giving up on XP


 I couldn't fix my problem (would be hard w/o the cd
 anyway), so i'm leaving XP. I want to switch to 2000
 Server, but i have no idea of how to create a startup
 disk for NTFS.. Does anyone know how to ? Thanks, and
 happy new year guys

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RE: [newbie] need help on erase glibc-devel-2.2.4-18mdk rpm

2002-01-01 Per discussione Franki

rpm -e glibc-devel-2.2.4 --nodeps

then put the old one back on.


rgds

Frank

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Behalf Of eric
Sent: Tuesday, 1 January 2002 8:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] need help on erase glibc-devel-2.2.4-18mdk rpm


Dear linux-mandrake users:

  I ever upgrade glibc-devel from 2.2.2 to 2.2.4 but it seem not nice to
compile my c++ program-many compile error, so I decide to erase 2.2.4
then reinstall 2.2.2

but when I do erase by rpm -e glibc-devel-2.2.4

[root@localhost ~/c_program]# rpm -e glibc-devel-2.2.4
error: removing these packages would break dependencies:
glibc-devel is needed by gcc-c++-2.96-0.48mdk
glibc-devel is needed by gcc-c++-2.96-0.69mdk
glibc-devel is needed by gcc-2.96-0.48mdk
glibc-devel is needed by gcc-g77-2.96-0.48mdk
glibc-devel is needed by gcc-objc-2.96-0.48mdk
glibc-devel is needed by gcc3.0-3.0.1-1mdk

how should I let it down then reinstall 8.0 cd's 2.2.2?

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[newbie] what to use for hostname

2002-01-01 Per discussione ajax

Hi,
I'm was looking at trying to set up postfix on my gateway/router.  The 
mandrake-user doc say that I need a fully qualified domain name.  I'm a 
little confused at what to use.  My internet access is by cable with a 
dynamic ip address.  I noticed that windows(before I set up a gateway)  
thinks my domain name is name.vc.shawcable.net where name is the name I gave 
the computer.  Is this ok to use?  Anyone on vc.shawcable.net could have 
chosen the same name.
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Re: [newbie] [Newbie] Need to install my USB Printer HP656c

2002-01-01 Per discussione Carroll Grigsby

On Sunday 30 December 2001 01:31 pm, Tiago Inácio wrote:
 I'm new at this, but i like very much the mandrake 7.1, so i need your
 help.

 Mandrake does not recognize my USB Printer, it is an HP 656c.

 I need all the steps and suport you can give to me.



 Bye the Way, Good New Year for all off you guys.

 Tks.


 Ass: Tiago


Tiago:
LM 7.1 had rather limited support for USB -- keyboards, mice and ZIP drives 
were about it. Although I'm no expert, I think that it was a limitation of 
the kernal. This might be the time to upgrade to 8.1 -- after all, 7.1 came 
out in the first half of 2000, and there have been tremendous improvements 
since then, particularly in the area of hardware support.
Regards, and a happy New Year to you ---
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[newbie] Slave drive question

2002-01-01 Per discussione Mithrilhall2000

I installed a 20 gig slave drive that had windows on it and mounted it with
diskdrake. The question I have is, the drive was a 20 gig and when I open
Disk Free it shows both of the windows drives and where it says size it
shows and incorrect number. One drive is 157Mb and the other is 2.29Gb with
the 157Mb being 100% full and the 2.29Gb at 38.9%. This must be incorrect
because the drive is a 20 gig. Is there something I am doing wrong here?
Also, is it possible to mount the two windows drives (C  D) anywhere I
want? When I mount them it gives me a list to pick from but I want to be
able to mount it to where I want.


Thanks in advance,
Mithrilhall


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Re: [newbie] USB smart media reader

2002-01-01 Per discussione Erylon

On Tuesday 01 January 2002 20:19, you wrote:
   I thought - hey, forget about getting my Simpletech Flashlink combo
 SmartMedia and CompactFlash card reader to work with Linux - I'll just buy
 one of the  Sandisk units. I went to Sandisk's website, and yes, they do
 state that two of their units, the SSDR31 and 33 models, are compatible
 with Linux.
   The first is CompactFlash (including type II) USB, and the second is
 Secure Digital  MultiMediaCard USB. Neither is SmartMedia. Sigh.
 - Original Message -
 From: Bryan Tyson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Yeah, it can be a bummer.  I have one of their older models (ssdr-05) and 
I've been trying to get it to work for weeks.  I guess I'll have to bite the 
bullet and get a reader that's really compatible.  The only consolation is 
that I've seen a lot of posts around that say the SSDR31 is really 
cool-mounts no hassle, just like a drive, and the cards can even be 
partitioned.  Some people are trying to figure out how to actually get them 
to boot the peanut OS.  If they manage to figure out how to get a boot sector 
to work I think that would be super cool.  Anyway, the darn flash reader is 
pretty much the only thing that is keeping me from completely ditching 
Windows.  Right now I have 3 machines that are only linux, one that dual 
boots linux/W98 and one that duals linux/NT Server.  And then there is the 
one dedicated to W98 (my wife's computer).  That has the SanDisk on it, and 
she's actually complaining because the Win TCP/IP locks up about once a day, 
and she has to reboot.  With a cardreader, I can convert that machine, at 
least to dual boot, and I don't think I'll hear any more whining.  My other 
dual boot machines get popped into Windows about once a month to run 
updates--that's it.  My wife thinks that the Liquid Theme running with the 
Slick icon set is pretty, so I won't get any complaints about the desktop, 
either.

Wish me luck,
e.



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Re: [newbie] RE: Zip Drive and fstab

2002-01-01 Per discussione tester

Maureen L. Thomas wrote:

I am using Mandrake 8.1.  I can access my floppy and my cdrom but not
the Zip disk.  It is an internal Atapi drive.  My fstab entry looks like
this:

/dev/hdd4  /mnt/zip  auto 
user,icharset=iso8859-1,sync,exec,codepage=850,noauto 0 0 

when I try to mount with the icon I get the following message:

mount special device /dev/hdd4 does not exist  

I know it is probably something really simple, but I just can't figure
it out.  Your help is greatly appreciated.  

Maureen




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In this case you need to create the device

mknod -m a+rw /dev/hdd4 b 22 69

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Re: [newbie] no 'control center' after InteractiveBastille

2002-01-01 Per discussione Paul Rodríguez

What feedback do you get from the console when you try to run su?

Open up a console window and type su+enter followed by the root
passwprd.

-Paul Rodríguez

On Tue, 2002-01-01 at 21:38, ai4a wrote:
 Hi, After I ran InteractiveBastille I can not get into 'control center'
 (the one on the desktop with an icon - not the one under k-menu?). A
 window comes up asking for the root password. I enter the password,
 press enter,  'control center' just disappears. Any help would be
 appreciated.
 
 TNA
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Re: [newbie] I Really Do Like Mandrake!

2002-01-01 Per discussione Mohammed Arafa 2 Mailing Lists

where do i apply for the job? ;)
- Original Message -
From: Michel Clasquin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 11:50 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] I Really Do Like Mandrake!


 On Monday 31 December 2001 14:06, Wes Gregg wrote:

  I have heard horror stories of people screwing up OS installations, or
  even deleting/mangling the wrong file before they learned not to.

 Some of us have managed to do it afterwards too ... regular visits to the
 cooker will make you an expert on backing up your data!

 --
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[newbie] ScanJet 4c

2002-01-01 Per discussione Bob Bomar

Being that I am coming from a limited FreeBSD back ground, I am haveing some 
trouble with another device.  I now have a ScanJet 4c with the SCSI card that 
came with it from HP.  I am running LM 8.1.  LM does not find the card.  All 
I did was actually reinstall LM.  It still did not see it.  Should I get 
another SCSI card, if so, what kind should I get.  I really like this 
scanner, and would like to get it working with LM8.1,  any help would me 
great.

Bob



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Re: [newbie] Using Midnight Commander

2002-01-01 Per discussione Stephen Kühn
On Sat, 2004-10-16 at 23:10, Hoyt Bailey wrote:
 On Saturday 16 October 2004 07:51, Anne Wilson wrote:
  On Saturday 16 Oct 2004 13:14, Hoyt Bailey wrote:
   On Saturday 16 October 2004 03:02, Stephen Kühn wrote:
Top posting is bad?
   
On Sat, 2004-10-16 at 13:45, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
 There's been alot of it lately, especially on the Expert list.

 LX
  
   Yes.
 
  Also quoting long emails and giving one-line answers.
 
  Anne
 I believe it got the message across.

Where else can you get a multitude of answers but on the Mandrake Newbie
list? Where else can you get such a cornucopia of information even when
a simple answer will suffice? Where else would you get such a bountiful
stream of smart-arsed remarks? No where - only here - on the Mandrake
Newbie list.

Someone needs to write an article about this list for the world to
see(or at least the public to see)
 
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