[newbie-it] modem usb + linux = :(
salve, allora io ho un modem adsl ericsson hm120dp usb (grazie telecom) vorrei sapere come riuscire a farlo vedere a linux (ho mandrake 8.1) grazie in anticipo
Re: [newbie-it] modem usb + linux = :(
Hai scritto salve, allora io ho un modem adsl ericsson hm120dp usb (grazie telecom) vorrei sapere come riuscire a farlo vedere a linux (ho mandrake 8.1) grazie in anticipo ... facendotelo cambiare dalla telecom con un manta usb alcatel (da quanto ne so io quel modello dell'ericsson non è ancora supportato) Ciao Marco
Re: [newbie-it] modem usb + linux = :(
Hai scritto salve, allora io ho un modem adsl ericsson hm120dp usb (grazie telecom) vorrei sapere come riuscire a farlo vedere a linux (ho mandrake 8.1) grazie in anticipo ... facendotelo cambiare dalla telecom con un manta usb alcatel (da quanto ne so io quel modello dell'ericsson non è ancora supportato) Ciao Marco
Re: [newbie-it] modem usb + linux = :(
Salve a tutti, Io invece ho il modem Alcatel ADSL Speed touch USB (sul sito mandrake risulta supportato) e una versione Mandrake 8.0 da due CD, e al momento dell'installazione tale modem non risultava nella lista. Sapreste spiegarmi come si procede su Linux a ricercare un driver scaricarselo da rete (a questo punto dovrei farlo da Windows) e poi passarmelo sulla partizione Linux e farglielo digerire; qual'è il posto dove sono i driver ? e poi come si dice al proprio Linux di cercarsi il driver sull'Hard disc anziche sul CD di installazione ? La manovra è analoga a quella che avevo imparato su windows o è differente ? grazie Marco Fortini - Original Message - From: Marco [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 10:37 AM Subject: Re: [newbie-it] modem usb + linux = :( Hai scritto salve, allora io ho un modem adsl ericsson hm120dp usb (grazie telecom) vorrei sapere come riuscire a farlo vedere a linux (ho mandrake 8.1) grazie in anticipo ... facendotelo cambiare dalla telecom con un manta usb alcatel (da quanto ne so io quel modello dell'ericsson non è ancora supportato) Ciao Marco
[newbie-it] lan casalinga
Innanzitutto un augurio di felice anno nuovo a tutta la mail list. Ho recentemente installato sul portatile Mandrake 8.0, visto che sono riuscito solo a trovare i driver per il modem per il kernel 2.4.3, mentre sul desk ho RedHat 7.2. Entrambi hanno un scheda ethernet (portatile 192.168.1.1 desk 192.168.1.2). Col ping si riconoscono, con FTP pure. Volendo utilizzare konqueror (come usavo con windoz), alla cartella rete mi compare l'errore: nessun host trovato. Dove ho sbagliato, ho con Linux non è possibile condividere i file di due computer (non ci crederò mai!!!). A voi la soluzione se potete. Ancora saluti ed auguri Maurizio
[newbie-it] Software audio
Qualcuno sa dirmi se esiste un sowtware per la ripulitura da fruscii e rumori vari delle tracce audio ottenute da dischi in vinile ? Grazie
Re: [newbie-it] d-link 538tx
Il Thursday 27 December 2001 11:49 , hai scritto: Allora, in fase di avvio la scheda viene riconosciuta benissimo, anche nel sito della mandrake risulta pienamnete supportata dalla mia versione (8.1) ma se provo vado nella configurazione dell'hardware con il centro di controllo, quì mi viene detto che il modello è sconosciuto... come faccio a fargli capire che il modello lo conosce? grazie e buone feste a tutti Anche a me succede la stessa cosa.Ho una D-Link 550tx. La scheda funziona bene? Se si che importa se la conosce o no. E linux.Sa lui come fare.Non e mica winzoz. Ciao. MadMax
[newbie-it] Palace software
Qualcuno si ricorda di quella chat ,visualchat, con tutti gli smile e le varie prop ? Ebbene io sto cercando, da tempo, un clone per linux. Avevo trovato Openverse ma ci si può solo connettere ai loro server (openverse), ho provato a farlo girare sotto wine ma senza risultato e non ne avrei voglia di caricare wmwarese qualcuno è in grado di darmi una mano mi farebbe un grossissimo favore. Grazie e buon 2002 P.S. Ho linux Mandrake 8.1 kernel 2.4.8-26
Re: [newbie-it] Piccola indagine di mercatato..
Alle 08:38, lunedì 31 dicembre 2001, michele ha scritto: anchio solo se e gratis :) saluti e buon anno - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 1:49 AM Subject: Re: [newbie-it] Piccola indagine di mercatato.. Mi chiedevo.. ci sarebbero degli interessati a partecipare ad un corso on-line per amministratori di sistema? Ancora da definire Saluti e buon anno Sisi.. io sarei anche interessato.. solo se gratis cmq saluti Ringrazio tutti per la celere risposta... ma credo non fosse necessaria un indagine di mercato per avere conferma della validità della teoria che gratis è meglio. Gratis ci sono già gli inimitabili Appunti di informatica Libera disponibili all'url http://a2.swlibero.org/ Per corso amministratori di sistema si intende l'equivalente di un RH253 ( vedere http://www.redhat.it/training/rhce/rh253_desc.php3 ) che da Red Hat viene proposto alla modica cifra di 1.653,00 euro + IVA, + spese di trasferimento ed alloggio per tutta la durata del corso (4gg.) stimabili in altri 400 euro. L'idea sarebbe di realizzarlo on-line in formato html da distribuirsi via email (come una specie di rivista per intenderci) con un considerevole abbattimento dei costi dello stesso e con il vantaggio di avere un suporto tecnico disponibile per l'intera durata dell'abbonamento. Tutto è legato al numero di partecipanti reperibili, per rendere l'idea, se gli interessati sono 2, i costi di realizzazione del corso lo renderebbero forse più costoso di quello di Red Hat. Se sono 50 o 500, fermi restando i costi fissi di produzione, lo renderebbero molto più conveniente. Saluti
Re: [newbie-it] installazione xine
[cut] Hai gia' provato Videolan? E' un ottima alternativa a Xine (e per certi versi anche migliore) ed utilizza sia Xvideo che le SDL per le accelerazioni video. Puoi trovarlo qui http://www.videolan.org Ciao -- Sebastiano ho provato ad installare tutto bene... quando l'ho fatto partire prima non trovava le librerie libdvdread ma ho risolto installando l'rpm presente nel sito, e ho lanciato. l'errore non c'era più in compenso attivava una sessione telnet: perchè per lanciare un programma di lettura di dvd (vls)devo necessariamente connettermi? invio la copia dei messaggi dalla console [root@localhost ferris]# vls VideoLAN Server v 0.3.1 (Dec 21 2001) - (c)1999-2001 VideoLAN 2002-01-01 18:38:00 [INFO/Vls] Module channel:file registered 2002-01-01 18:38:00 [INFO/Vls] Module channel:network registered 2002-01-01 18:38:00 [INFO/Vls] Module mpegreader:file registered 2002-01-01 18:38:00 [INFO/Vls] Module mpegconverter:ts2ts registered 2002-01-01 18:38:00 [INFO/Vls] Module mpegconverter:ps2ts registered 2002-01-01 18:38:00 [INFO/Vls] Module input:local registered 2002-01-01 18:38:00 [INFO/Vls] Module input:video registered 2002-01-01 18:38:00 [INFO/Vls] Browsing modules in directory . 2002-01-01 18:38:00 [INFO/Vls] Browsing modules in directory /usr/local/lib/videolan/vls 2002-01-01 18:38:00 [DEBUG/Vls] In src/core/module.cpp line 152 - trying file /usr/local/lib/deolan/vls/dvdreader.so 2002-01-01 18:38:00 [INFO/Vls] Module mpegreader:dvd registered 2002-01-01 18:38:00 [DEBUG/Vls] In netchannel.h line 45 - New instance of module channel:netwk 2002-01-01 18:38:00 [INFO/Vls] Channel 'localhost' created 2002-01-01 18:38:00 [INFO/Vls] New admin group master is ok 2002-01-01 18:38:00 [INFO/Vls] New admin group monitor is ok 2002-01-01 18:38:00 [INFO/Vls] Native administrator initialised 2002-01-01 18:38:00 [INFO/Vls] Telnet server initialised [kill] 2002-01-01 18:44:40 [WARN/Vls] Received SIGTERM: Software termination signal, launching shutdown sequence... 2002-01-01 18:44:40 [INFO/Vls] Telnet server stopped 2002-01-01 18:44:41 [INFO/Vls] Native administrator stopped 2002-01-01 18:44:41 [INFO/Vls] Native administrator started 2002-01-01 18:44:41 [INFO/Vls] Stopping the manager 2002-01-01 18:44:41 [INFO/Vls] Manager stopped 2002-01-01 18:44:41 [INFO/Vls] Destroying administrator module 2002-01-01 18:44:41 [INFO/Vls] Shutdowning all the opened sessions... 2002-01-01 18:44:41 [INFO/Vls] Telnet server destroyed 2002-01-01 18:44:41 [INFO/Vls] Shutdowning all the opened sessions... 2002-01-01 18:44:41 [INFO/Vls] Native administrator destroyed 2002-01-01 18:44:41 [INFO/Vls] Destroying manager module 2002-01-01 18:44:41 [INFO/Vls] Destroying the manager 2002-01-01 18:44:41 [INFO/Vls] Manager destroyed [root@localhost ferris]# = se un giorno ti svegli e hai 4 palle vuol dire che hai il nemico alle spalle, e a questo punto non ti muovere perchè altrimenti farai il suo gioco! by Zelig __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com
Re: [newbie] AOL CDROM help!
How did you install Linux in the first place if not by CD ROM? julian. = At 02:10 PM 1/1/02 -0800, you wrote: Pls help! I mounted my cdrom using mount /mnt/cdrom then i went to the directory using cd /mnt/cdrom when i command ls no directories or files found when i command mount /dev/cdrom an error occured saying fs: iso9660 is not supported by your kernel so how will i installed packages so my cdrom may be supported and what packages should i install.How can I also install it my cdrom does not mount-I cannot use my cdrom. Any help will be gladly appreciated. Thanks and God Bless! Happy New Year!!!2002 from AOL Systems! Mabuhay ang Pilipinas! Respectfully AOL Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com == Julian A. Opificius. 802 Fawn Road, Elk River, MN 55330. Home: 763.441.1291, Cell: 763.360.5919 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 3268206 == Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SO 5.2 won't share
On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 07:04:11 -0800, Grant Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am trying to install SO 5.2 from the 8.0 CD. The setup program is in the KDE menu. I want to put the program where it can be installed once and used by all. SO seems to want to have a full copy of itself in each user directory. I have tried Network install and Workstation install. As root I can get the program to install to /usr/share/staroffice52 As user I cannot access it without the setup program running again. How do I get the program files in one directory and the user files in another. I did not see that option. You need to run the initial setup routine with the /net flag. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan I care about the fact that our internal design has to be robust. It doesn't have to make everybody happy, but it has to be clean both conceptually and from a pure implementation standpoint. I don't want a hack that works. -- Linus Torvalds Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Capturing audio
grecord came with md 8.1 and should already be on your system. Nev -- John Rye wrote: Hi all, I'm looking for a usable program for capturing audio from my soundcard. I've hunted all over Freshmeat and Google but don't seem to be abble to find anything which compiles let alone works!! If it's of any help I'm running Mandrake 8.1, kernel 2.4.16. Biggest problem is locating the device file, everything seems to be looking for /dev/dsp but doesn't find it :-((( Any suggestions most welcome Cheers John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] A sound question!
Hi Mark, Well, if devfsd would have worked properly the devices would have been created dynamically. You should disable the devfsd alltogether as it fucks up in every way. You do this by taking out the devfsd mention from your lilo.conf file. After editing run 'lilo' off course. Then reboot. If you use cmd MAKEDEV you can re-create the missing devices. I have scsi ide buses and devfsd fucked up big time for me too. Guy. Mark Evans wrote: Hi I have found out today that I have /dev/sound/dsp set-up instead of /dev/dsp. Some apps I have found require /dev/dsp. So I created a link to /dev/dsp from /dev/sound/dsp and then these apps started to generate sound for the first time. After re-booting the link had gone! So I have two questions. 1. Where can I configure /dev/dsp to be permanent? 2. I have the following in /dev/sound do all of these have to be in /dev? audio dsp dspW midi mixer sequencer sequencer2 Thanks Mark Evans Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] c compiler and its problem in 8.0
On Mon, 31 Dec 2001, Pen Gwynne wrote: Eric, Please do gcc -v or cc -v and tell us what it says. I have the following 4 line program: int main() { printf(Hello World!); } - snip -- Now let me say this. My prompt is the normal, or default [pen@myhost dir]$ When I run the program what I see is: Hello World![pen@myhost dir]$ For a start you could try adding \n to the end of the string. That should separate the message and the prompt. printf(Hello World!\n); You should also be aware of one more funny thing that Linux does. After running a.out, the hello world example, As soon as I type something, anything, then the hello world program output and my prompt line: Hello World![pen@myhost dir]$ is comes just: [pen@myhost dir]$ Not sure I understand what you are saying, but any output from the program will be buffered until the shell sees a newline. It looks like the program never printed anything at all. Hope this helps. /Pen -- Len Lawrence @ The Thistle Foundation Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] AOL CDROM help!
On Tuesday 01 January 2002 03:04, you wrote: How did you install Linux in the first place if not by CD ROM? julian. = At 02:10 PM 1/1/02 -0800, you wrote: Pls help! I mounted my cdrom using mount /mnt/cdrom then i went to the directory using cd /mnt/cdrom when i command ls no directories or files found when i command mount /dev/cdrom an error occured saying fs: iso9660 is not supported by your kernel so how will i installed packages so my cdrom may be supported and what packages should i install.How can I also install it my cdrom does not mount-I cannot use my cdrom. Any help will be gladly appreciated. Thanks and God Bless! Happy New Year!!!2002 from AOL Systems! Mabuhay ang Pilipinas! Respectfully AOL Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com == Julian A. Opificius. 802 Fawn Road, Elk River, MN 55330. Home: 763.441.1291, Cell: 763.360.5919 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 3268206 == Oo nga pre? Paano ba? ..(Network install o hd.img?)... -- ---** Holy smokes Batman, Robin exclaimed, the Penguin's taken over Gotham! Jal Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] USB smart media reader
On Monday 31 December 2001 19:36 pm, you wrote: On Mon, 31 Dec 2001, poogle wrote: I may be completely off base here but I'll try anyway, I have an Olympus USB camera which uses Smartmedia cards but is not recognised by any of the photo packages. Thanks to Ric Tibbets I am able to download from it by doing the following:- modprobe usb-storage mount /dev/sda1 -t vfat /mnt/cam (where /mnt/cam is the mountpoint I created) Checking Hardrake it shows my camera as a disk called /dev/sda, note it does not show it as /dev/sda1 which it is but then HDs are shown as /dev/hda /dev/hdb, again no drive number. It may be that you need to modprobe usb-storage and then mount it as /dev/sda1 BTW, I don't know anything about saving to such a device. A drive doesn't have a number, partitions have numbers. Yes, I know that, I apparently expressed myself badly and was less clear than I had hoped but the poster I replied to appeared to have been misled by HardDrake showing his device as /dev/sda and had then set up fstab using /dev/sda. The reference to hard drives having no numbers shown in HardDrake was intended to emphasise the point that HardDrake only shows drive names and not partitions within those drives. -- Poogle Registered Linux user 182657 (added to sig for the benefit of those irritated by it) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] AOL CDROM help!
ok i install Linux by CD i know that im just asking that I cannot mount the cdrom when im inside the Linux Systems already (KDE and Gnome) I dont want to reinstall again so what will I do so i will not re-Install again Thanks Respectfully AOL www.aolsystems.com Julian Opificius wrote: How did you install Linux in the first place if not by CD ROM? julian. = At 02:10 PM 1/1/02 -0800, you wrote: Pls help! I mounted my cdrom using mount /mnt/cdrom then i went to the directory using cd /mnt/cdrom when i command ls no directories or files found when i command mount /dev/cdrom an error occured saying fs: iso9660 is not supported by your kernel so how will i installed packages so my cdrom may be supported and what packages should i install.How can I also install it my cdrom does not mount-I cannot use my cdrom. Any help will be gladly appreciated. Thanks and God Bless! Happy New Year!!!2002 from AOL Systems! Mabuhay ang Pilipinas! Respectfully AOL Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com == Julian A. Opificius. 802 Fawn Road, Elk River, MN 55330. Home: 763.441.1291, Cell: 763.360.5919 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 3268206 == Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RE: Office Suites
On Tuesday 01 January 2002 01:38, you wrote: On 31 Dec 2001 20:05:55 -0500, Michael Leone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think Civileme's point was that if/when the UCITA law passes in Washington, USA, then Microsoft (headquartered in Washington) will be able to make a minor change to their proprietary .doc/.xls/whatever file formats, and it will be illegal for Sun or anyone else to reverse-engineer that file format to create a new filter for their competing office suite. Sun licenses the file formats from MS, don't they? They didn't reverse-engineer them, I thought. Nope, they are reverse-engineered. That's why it has taken so long for the filters to reach their present level of quality (which is very good). Calling it reverse engineered is a little of a dangerous reach, (in my HUMBLE opinion), my guess is a lot of the info is from APIs released by M$, to allow third parties to be able to write macros and other programs that will work with M$ applications, the rest would be obvious to someone studying, say, word processor programing. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] java applets on konqueror
On Monday 31 December 2001 14:11, you wrote: Fixed it! Man that was some work! The second download worked and was the same file! Cool, now konqueror can do applets plus a neat addition of a java console! All by using sdk1.4.0 beta 3. take care, eric l. mcclure Ok I think I've tried everything to get the browser to see the applets. Even sun's site doesn't load the applet. Pointed Konqueror where the java is and nothing. I'm using sdk1.4.0beta3 and I know Kaffe doesn't work with the browser since I viewed the help files and web site. The web site made a reference to the /opt directory but mine is empty. Netscape can see the applet, and mozilla at this moment is updating itself to see it too. What can I do? Eric L. McClure Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] cron message
I have set up a cron job and this is the message i have received Your terminal lacks the ability to clear the screen or position the cursor. how vcan i solve this prob? thanks in advance Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] finding file location
is there away of finding out the location of afile orprogram on the server via telnet. I want to execute lynx via cron and thus need to know its location. Thanks Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RE: Office Suites
On Tue, 2002-01-01 at 08:51, robin wrote: Dave Sherman wrote: [cut] I think Civileme's point was that if/when the UCITA law passes in Washington, USA, then Microsoft (headquartered in Washington) will be able to make a minor change to their proprietary .doc/.xls/whatever file formats, and it will be illegal for Sun or anyone else to reverse-engineer that file format to create a new filter for their competing office suite. And if anyone DOES reverse-engineer the file format, then MS can sue them to smithereens, and even try to go for a prison sentence, since their EULA will carry the force of law. I can't seriously see this happening. Microsoft had enough political and economic clout to survive getting sued by Netscape et al., but they don't have the clout to sue Sun - it would be suicidal. Maybe. But they *could* sue OpenOffice.org, and probably shut it down, which would effectively slow, if not stop, development of StarOffice as well. I suspect the real reason for the paucity of .doc filters is that it is such a yucky format that writing a good filter is more trouble than it's worth. wv does a passable job but is far from perfect, and even Star Office only got it right with version 6.0. It is a yucky *and* an undocumented format. This means it requires anyone to reverse engineer it before they can write a filter for it. If you check the OpenOffice.org website, you will see that they were forced to re-write the MS Office filters from scratch, because the StarOffice filters were under an NDA from Sun. It wasn't because of MS licensing, but Sun itself was standing in the way (this may, on second thought, be a carry-over from Sun's purchase of StarOffice from the German Star company that originally developed the software). But here's another scary example, to which Civileme alluded: Samba. What will happen if/when UCITA passes in Washington state, and Microsoft sues the Samba team for reverse-engineering their proprietary software and network protocols? If we are lucky, Samba will be able to continue working outside the US, in one or more countries that are willing to largely ignore US extradition requests (or more accurately, that are so difficult to deal with that MS won't even bother). And any US-based Samba developers will need to leave the team, because MS can go after them individually -- again, for both monetary compensation and imprisonment. One need only look at Adobe's ridiculous actions with regard to Dmitri Sklyarov to realize that MS will not hesitate to try the same thing with any known Samba developer that they can reach. Civileme's further point, to which Doug balked, was that we should all be looking to move away from MS' (or anyone else's, for that matter) proprietary file formats, as a pre-emptive move so that we are not locked into yet another MS monopoly if/when UCITA passes. In our own self-interest, we should be changing to open file formats, like xml (which StarOffice 6.0 uses, by the way). We need .doc filters as a stopgap. No matter how often I tell my colleagues that I refuse to read .doc files, sometimes I just have to. XML is a reasonable lingua franca, but for my own purposes, I'm still a LaTeX man. I agree that we need the filters for now, but it would still be wise to stop using MS' proprietary formats ASAP. As far as using LaTeX, is there a free and easy to use LaTeX editor/word processor for Windows and Macintosh? Just curious -- actually, I thought LaTeX was a document layout/markup language for professional publishing, but not something typically used for word processing. I am betting you need to convert your documents to a different format for others (non-Linux users) to read, yes? Dave -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and good with ketchup. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] no permission to mount cdrom
On Tuesday 01 January 2002 17:49, you wrote: Hello, I can't seem to figure out why my cdrom is unaccessable from my sub user accounts. Because its a removable disk how to I change the permissions? I've tried changing my /mnt/cdrom/ link. here is my fstab /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom auto user,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,exec,codepage=850,ro,noauto 0 0 I can reach it from root.. thank you. chris Try adding 'cdrom' to the 'groups' of the specific users through 'Userdrake' Good luck, Harm Bathoorn Happy Linux-bikers can be recognized by the dead 'KDE-bugs' on their teeth. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] problem shutting down
On my 8.1 system I have recently encountered a problem shutting down the computer. I'm not sure what could be causing the problem since I rarely need to power down, but when I choose 'halt', the system powers down and then right up again. This didn't used to happen. Booting into Windows98 (something that's only been done a few times on this box) shuts down without a problem (of course sometimes it crashes while running). So it's not a hardware issue. What could be causing this? -Paul Rodríguez _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] problem shutting down
PR On my 8.1 system I have recently encountered a problem shutting down the PR computer. I'm not sure what could be causing the problem since I rarely PR need to power down, but when I choose 'halt', the system powers down and PR then right up again. This didn't used to happen. PR Booting into Windows98 (something that's only been done a few times on PR this box) shuts down without a problem (of course sometimes it crashes PR while running). So it's not a hardware issue. What could be causing PR this? PR -Paul Rodríguez Had you ever shut down your pc from linux normally ? I have a p4 on i845 board and it does not shut down (o does but I dont know how ) so it may not be supported. Usually I would recommend you check your apm stuff, both in linux and bios. If I remember it right, it should be enabled. Onur Kucuk _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] AOL CDROM help!
Well the error you quoted says that iso9660 is not supported by the kernel. Did you create a custom kernel? CD-ROM support must, I think, be explicitly excluded from a default configuration. Of course, I was about to say get a generic kernel from the distro CD ... If you have the package manager installed, I believe it will connect via Internet to the Mandrake site and show available packages, one of which I would imagine would be CD-ROM support. Someone with more experience than me should be able to add more details here. julian. = At 08:01 PM 1/1/02 -0800, you wrote: ok i install Linux by CD i know that im just asking that I cannot mount the cdrom when im inside the Linux Systems already (KDE and Gnome) I dont want to reinstall again so what will I do so i will not re-Install again Thanks Respectfully AOL www.aolsystems.com Julian Opificius wrote: How did you install Linux in the first place if not by CD ROM? julian. = At 02:10 PM 1/1/02 -0800, you wrote: Pls help! I mounted my cdrom using mount /mnt/cdrom then i went to the directory using cd /mnt/cdrom when i command ls no directories or files found when i command mount /dev/cdrom an error occured saying fs: iso9660 is not supported by your kernel so how will i installed packages so my cdrom may be supported and what packages should i install.How can I also install it my cdrom does not mount-I cannot use my cdrom. Any help will be gladly appreciated. Thanks and God Bless! Happy New Year!!!2002 from AOL Systems! Mabuhay ang Pilipinas! Respectfully AOL Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com == Julian A. Opificius. 802 Fawn Road, Elk River, MN 55330. Home: 763.441.1291, Cell: 763.360.5919 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 3268206 == Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com == Julian A. Opificius. 802 Fawn Road, Elk River, MN 55330. Home: 763.441.1291, Cell: 763.360.5919 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 3268206 == Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RE: Office Suites
Dave Sherman wrote: I agree that we need the filters for now, but it would still be wise to stop using MS' proprietary formats ASAP. As far as using LaTeX, is there a free and easy to use LaTeX editor/word processor for Windows and Macintosh? Just curious -- actually, I thought LaTeX was a document layout/markup language for professional publishing, but not something typically used for word processing. I am betting you need to convert your documents to a different format for others (non-Linux users) to read, yes? LyX is very easy to use (see www.lyx.org) and is available for Windows (not sure about Mac). It uses LaTeX as its default backend (which makes Windows installation a bit of a pain, since you have to install (La)TeX first). Sure, I have to convert to something else (usually PDF) is I want to send files to Windows users, but it's a small price to pay. One advantage of LaTeX is that it's very easy to convert to whatever format you want: DVI, PS, PDF, HTML, SGML - you name it. Robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] no permission to mount cdrom
On Tuesday 01 January 2002 11:49 am, chris huston wrote: Hello, I can't seem to figure out why my cdrom is unaccessable from my sub user accounts. Because its a removable disk how to I change the permissions? I've tried changing my /mnt/cdrom/ link. here is my fstab /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom auto user,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,exec,codepage=850,ro,noauto 0 0 my fstab entry is below: (and a user can mount the cdrom) /dev/hdb /mnt/cdrom auto user,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,exec,codepage=850,ro,noauto 0 0 The only diff I see is that hdb instead of hdc The cdrom is normally hdb where hdc is normally a harddrive I used mount /mnt/cdrom and it mounts. Only the user that mounts it can umount it. Gerald Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] finding file location
On Tuesday 01 January 2002 12:10 pm, caspar kennerdale wrote: is there away of finding out the location of afile orprogram on the server via telnet. I want to execute lynx via cron and thus need to know its location. uselocate lynx(may need to run updatedb) or find / -name lynx Gerald Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] AOL CDROM help!
AOL Systems wrote: ok i install Linux by CD i know that im just asking that I cannot mount the cdrom when im inside the Linux Systems already (KDE and Gnome) I dont want to reinstall again so what will I do so i will not re-Install again Thanks Respectfully AOL www.aolsystems.com Julian Opificius wrote: How did you install Linux in the first place if not by CD ROM? julian. = At 02:10 PM 1/1/02 -0800, you wrote: Pls help! I mounted my cdrom using mount /mnt/cdrom then i went to the directory using cd /mnt/cdrom when i command ls no directories or files found when i command mount /dev/cdrom an error occured saying fs: iso9660 is not supported by your kernel so how will i installed packages so my cdrom may be supported and what packages should i install.How can I also install it my cdrom does not mount-I cannot use my cdrom. Any help will be gladly appreciated. Thanks and God Bless! Happy New Year!!!2002 from AOL Systems! Mabuhay ang Pilipinas! Respectfully AOL Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com == Julian A. Opificius. 802 Fawn Road, Elk River, MN 55330. Home: 763.441.1291, Cell: 763.360.5919 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 3268206 == Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com It is very strange to install from a cd and not get iso9660 support in the kernel. What distribution are you using, and what version? Your reluctance to reinstall suggests it is not Mandrake, but that's OK. People here will try to help anyway. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RE: Office Suites
Dave Sherman wrote: On Tue, 2002-01-01 at 08:51, robin wrote: Dave Sherman wrote: [cut] I think Civileme's point was that if/when the UCITA law passes in Washington, USA, then Microsoft (headquartered in Washington) will be able to make a minor change to their proprietary .doc/.xls/whatever file formats, and it will be illegal for Sun or anyone else to reverse-engineer that file format to create a new filter for their competing office suite. And if anyone DOES reverse-engineer the file format, then MS can sue them to smithereens, and even try to go for a prison sentence, since their EULA will carry the force of law. I can't seriously see this happening. Microsoft had enough political and economic clout to survive getting sued by Netscape et al., but they don't have the clout to sue Sun - it would be suicidal. Maybe. But they *could* sue OpenOffice.org, and probably shut it down, which would effectively slow, if not stop, development of StarOffice as well. I suspect the real reason for the paucity of .doc filters is that it is such a yucky format that writing a good filter is more trouble than it's worth. wv does a passable job but is far from perfect, and even Star Office only got it right with version 6.0. It is a yucky *and* an undocumented format. This means it requires anyone to reverse engineer it before they can write a filter for it. If you check the OpenOffice.org website, you will see that they were forced to re-write the MS Office filters from scratch, because the StarOffice filters were under an NDA from Sun. It wasn't because of MS licensing, but Sun itself was standing in the way (this may, on second thought, be a carry-over from Sun's purchase of StarOffice from the German Star company that originally developed the software). But here's another scary example, to which Civileme alluded: Samba. What will happen if/when UCITA passes in Washington state, and Microsoft sues the Samba team for reverse-engineering their proprietary software and network protocols? If we are lucky, Samba will be able to continue working outside the US, in one or more countries that are willing to largely ignore US extradition requests (or more accurately, that are so difficult to deal with that MS won't even bother). And any US-based Samba developers will need to leave the team, because MS can go after them individually -- again, for both monetary compensation and imprisonment. One need only look at Adobe's ridiculous actions with regard to Dmitri Sklyarov to realize that MS will not hesitate to try the same thing with any known Samba developer that they can reach. Civileme's further point, to which Doug balked, was that we should all be looking to move away from MS' (or anyone else's, for that matter) proprietary file formats, as a pre-emptive move so that we are not locked into yet another MS monopoly if/when UCITA passes. In our own self-interest, we should be changing to open file formats, like xml (which StarOffice 6.0 uses, by the way). We need .doc filters as a stopgap. No matter how often I tell my colleagues that I refuse to read .doc files, sometimes I just have to. XML is a reasonable lingua franca, but for my own purposes, I'm still a LaTeX man. I agree that we need the filters for now, but it would still be wise to stop using MS' proprietary formats ASAP. As far as using LaTeX, is there a free and easy to use LaTeX editor/word processor for Windows and Macintosh? Just curious -- actually, I thought LaTeX was a document layout/markup language for professional publishing, but not something typically used for word processing. I am betting you need to convert your documents to a different format for others (non-Linux users) to read, yes? Dave Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Well, the output of Tetex/LaTeX, if printed to a file, is postscript format, printer-ready just about anywhere, and readable by adobe acrobat reader and other programs. LyX is a document processor close to WYSIWYG that runs cross-platform (yes, windows too) which is indispensible if you are dealing with lots of special symbols, margin notes, footnotes, and so on and you don't want to learn native LaTeX commands. KLyX was written for the Qt widget set and X ain a marathon session to show how effective Qt widgets could be. It has great potential if developed. A very nice translator was written quite a while ago called SDF, which can convert postscript, SGML, HTML, pdf and oher formats. It also has its own metalanguage for making documents. It too runs on Windows as well as on others though some Microsoft license agreements might be violated in the latest versions of windows (the Netkit is licensed against living under the same roof with GPL software and Perl--at least Microsoft's atttorneys haven't required that all Microsoft competitiors be addressed as the
Re: [newbie] no permission to mount cdrom
If I understand that what you're asking for is for multiple users to be able to mount and unmount CD-ROMS, then you must change user to users in fstab. See man mount. julian. At 01:30 PM 1/1/02 -0500, you wrote: On Tuesday 01 January 2002 11:49 am, chris huston wrote: Hello, I can't seem to figure out why my cdrom is unaccessable from my sub user accounts. Because its a removable disk how to I change the permissions? I've tried changing my /mnt/cdrom/ link. here is my fstab /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom auto user,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,exec,codepage=850,ro,noauto 0 0 my fstab entry is below: (and a user can mount the cdrom) /dev/hdb /mnt/cdrom auto user,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,exec,codepage=850,ro,noauto 0 0 The only diff I see is that hdb instead of hdc The cdrom is normally hdb where hdc is normally a harddrive I used mount /mnt/cdrom and it mounts. Only the user that mounts it can umount it. Gerald Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com == Julian A. Opificius. 802 Fawn Road, Elk River, MN 55330. Home: 763.441.1291, Cell: 763.360.5919 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 3268206 == Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] no permission to mount cdrom
On Tuesday 01 January 2002 01:34 pm, Julian Opificius wrote: If I understand that what you're asking for is for multiple users to be able to mount and unmount CD-ROMS, then you must change user to users in fstab. See man mount. using users will allow any user to umount the filesystem using user allows any user to mount the filesystem but only the user that mounted the filesystem to umount it. Which sounds like a good idea! Gerald Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] c compiler and its problem in 8.0
What warnings are you getting? Anyway, you need to add a return value unless you change to function from int main() to void main(). void main() is considered to be bad programming though. Add return 0; as your last line in the main() function. That will return the integer value of 0 (zero) to the system and is required if you use int main(). The int in int main() means that you are returning an integer value to the operating system. You should have a statement of #include stdio.h at the beginning of the program, also. Usually, a compiler will complain unless you include a header file with the function prototype and the compiler normally complains if you declare a function with a return value but don't provide a return value statement within the body of the function (the data types have to match also). At 05:52 PM 12/31/2001 -0500, eric wrote: Dear Pen: I tried your 4 lines program, it still not print out even I use gcc -v or cc -v to compile, actually after the gcc -v I got a lot of junks waring. Same thing, at bash it is not be printed, but it can be shown at csh. rpm -q gcc 2.96-0.48mdk (probably straight from 8.0 standard edition) rpm -q bash bash-2.04-18mdk(straight from 8.0 standard edition) you may check your bash in your 8.1 , is that same edition as mine in 8.0? may be that is the problem. eric, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pen Gwynne wrote: Eric, Please do gcc -v or cc -v and tell us what it says. I have the following 4 line program: int main() { printf(Hello World!); } It compiles and run properly, even without the normal #include files. I am using a straight Mandrake 8.1 installation and my version of gcc is 2.96 2731. Now let me say this. My prompt is the normal, or default [pen@myhost dir]$ When I run the program what I see is: Hello World![pen@myhost dir]$ You should also be aware of one more funny thing that Linux does. After running a.out, the hello world example, As soon as I type something, anything, then the hello world program output and my prompt line: Hello World![pen@myhost dir]$ is comes just: [pen@myhost dir]$ It looks like the program never printed anything at all. Hope this helps. /Pen Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] need help on erase glibc-devel-2.2.4-18mdk rpm
Dear linux-mandrake users: I ever upgrade glibc-devel from 2.2.2 to 2.2.4 but it seem not nice to compile my c++ program-many compile error, so I decide to erase 2.2.4 then reinstall 2.2.2 but when I do erase by rpm -e glibc-devel-2.2.4 [root@localhost ~/c_program]# rpm -e glibc-devel-2.2.4 error: removing these packages would break dependencies: glibc-devel is needed by gcc-c++-2.96-0.48mdk glibc-devel is needed by gcc-c++-2.96-0.69mdk glibc-devel is needed by gcc-2.96-0.48mdk glibc-devel is needed by gcc-g77-2.96-0.48mdk glibc-devel is needed by gcc-objc-2.96-0.48mdk glibc-devel is needed by gcc3.0-3.0.1-1mdk how should I let it down then reinstall 8.0 cd's 2.2.2? sincer eric, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] need help on erase glibc-devel-2.2.4-18mdk rpm
On Tue, 01 Jan 2002 07:48:32 -0500, eric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear linux-mandrake users: I ever upgrade glibc-devel from 2.2.2 to 2.2.4 but it seem not nice to compile my c++ program-many compile error, so I decide to erase 2.2.4 then reinstall 2.2.2 but when I do erase by rpm -e glibc-devel-2.2.4 You could use the -force option with rpm. Paul -- Life is either a daring adventure or nothing. -Helen Keller http://nlpagan.net - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 8.0 - Sylpheed 0.6.5 claws Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] A sound question!
Ed Tharp wrote: On Tuesday 01 January 2002 05:38, you wrote: Hi Mark, Well, if devfsd would have worked properly the devices would have been created dynamically. You should disable the devfsd alltogether as it fcks up in every way. You do this by taking out the devfsd mention from your lilo.conf file. After editing run 'lilo' off course. Then reboot. If you use cmd MAKEDEV you can re-create the missing devices. I have scsi ide buses and devfsd fucked up big time for me too. so how do you REALLLY feel about devfs? It sucks for now, it's a pain in the ass, it's too early to use it ... I have not tried taking out the devfsd mention from your lilo.conf file. I have tried changing the mount to nomount and rebooting, and have tried changing it back to mount (running /sbin/lilo, all as root, and rebooting) Have tried, have tried... Yes, and then? I have found that if you need a thing to load up each time you boot (kinda like adding it to autoexec.bat in dos 5.x +) you could add it as one of the last lines to the file /etc/rc.d/rc.local and save that file (also as root) where does this come from? How does it relate to the previous. What is your point? Guy Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] compile gcc error, need help
Dear linux programers: what may cause compiler error [root@localhost c_program]# gcc hello.c as: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.2.3' not found (required by /usr/lib/libbfd-2.11.92.0.12.so) hope to see your help eric, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] problem shutting down
Onur Kucuk wrote: PR On my 8.1 system I have recently encountered a problem shutting down the PR computer. I'm not sure what could be causing the problem since I rarely PR need to power down, but when I choose 'halt', the system powers down and PR then right up again. This didn't used to happen. PR Booting into Windows98 (something that's only been done a few times on PR this box) shuts down without a problem (of course sometimes it crashes PR while running). So it's not a hardware issue. What could be causing PR this? PR -Paul Rodríguez Had you ever shut down your pc from linux normally ? halt was ok. The classic Unix way is shutdown -y -gO -i0. Another variant of the shutdown command is 'shutdown -h now'. Guy Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] how to get souce code from two patch files?
Dear linux programers: two files, gcc-i386-address-cost.patch.bz2 which I already get rid of bz2 and gcc-i386-address-cost.patch.bz2.orig in my /usr/src/RPMS/SOURCE directory I get them from souce code gcc of 8.0, and 7.2(with orig) welcome any linux programers's help eric, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Now able to browse Netscape via kppp
I would like to thank everyone involved in helping me browse the Internet via kppp dial-up connection using a 56k external modem on my Linux Mandrake 7.1 PC. I also emailed my ISP (ic24) who told me their DNS settings had changed, and so by entering these new DNS settings, I was able to connect and browse Netscape. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Now able to browse Netscape via kppp
I would like to thank everyone involved in helping me browse the Internet via kppp dial-up connection using a 56k external modem on my Linux Mandrake 7.1 PC. I also emailed my ISP (ic24) who told me their DNS settings had changed, and so by entering these new DNS settings, I was able to connect and browse Netscape. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rune errors my machine
Grant Fraser wrote: Experience with Windows has taught me to NEVER run anything DEMO. Ever. I wont do it with Linux either. A demo is made by ripping a chunk out of a full program and cauterizing the dangly bits. I hope you liked the magazine. Grant On Monday 31 December 2001 03:47, you wrote: I got a Linux magazine that had a demo software CD on it. I tried running a game, Rune, and had problems. When I run the run_demo.x86 or the run_demo it locks up my system. It looks like it starts to launch the game but just hoses my computer. How do I troubleshoot this? What could be wrong? Is it my Mandrake8.0 config or the game demo? Thanks -Allen I ran the Rune demo here, under 8.0 and 8.1 for quite awhile before I bought the full game (and Halls of Valhalla upgrade). Ran just fine, but you have to use the Loki installer software with it. Now mind you, thats on my machine with a Geforce 2 video card. On my 11 year old's machine with a Voodoo 3000 card, it plays the sound perfectly, but we get no video... so it might be picky about video cards. Hope this helps! -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Resolving HW conflicts
Mark Shaw wrote: Hi All, Short version: I need a general methodology for determining what resources my peripherals are using; i.e. a list of files to examine or diagnostics to run that will tell me that my soundcard is using IRQ n / port m / DMA x / whatever y, my modem is using IRQ etc etc Mark, from a shell - just type in cat /proc/interrupts and you will get a list of IRQ's and whats using them! -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] A sound question!
On Tuesday 01 January 2002 15:27, you wrote: I have found that if you need a thing to load up each time you boot (kinda like adding it to autoexec.bat in dos 5.x +) you could add it as one of the last lines to the file /etc/rc.d/rc.local and save that file (also as root) where does this come from? How does it relate to the previous. What is your point? Guy since I / we was / are answering a question from Mark Evans, and in the question he said I created a link to /dev/dsp from /dev/sound/dsp and then these apps started to generate sound for the first time. After re-booting the link had gone! I have two questions. 1. Where can I configure /dev/dsp to be permanent? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] finding file location
On Tue, 1 Jan 2002 13:34:33 -0500 Gerald Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] studiouisly spake these words to ponder: On Tuesday 01 January 2002 12:10 pm, caspar kennerdale wrote: is there away of finding out the location of afile orprogram on the server via telnet. I want to execute lynx via cron and thus need to know its location. uselocate lynx(may need to run updatedb) or find / -name lynx how about whereis lynx ? [mdw1982@mdw1982 mdw1982]$ whereis lynx lynx: /usr/bin/lynx /etc/lynx.cfg /etc/lynx.lss /usr/share/lynx /usr/share/man/man1/lynx.1.bz2 works like a charm. -- daRcmaTTeR - If at first you don't succeed do what your wife told you to do the first time! Registered Linux User 182496 Mandrake 8.1 - 7:05pm up 16 days, 10:54, 2 users, load average: 0.39, 0.54, 0.52 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RE: Office Suites
On Tue, 1 Jan 2002 09:12:25 -0500 Ed Tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] studiouisly spake these words to ponder: On Tuesday 01 January 2002 01:38, you wrote: On 31 Dec 2001 20:05:55 -0500, Michael Leone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think Civileme's point was that if/when the UCITA law passes in Washington, USA, then Microsoft (headquartered in Washington) will be able to make a minor change to their proprietary .doc/.xls/whatever file formats, and it will be illegal for Sun or anyone else to reverse-engineer that file format to create a new filter for their competing office suite. Sun licenses the file formats from MS, don't they? They didn't reverse-engineer them, I thought. Nope, they are reverse-engineered. That's why it has taken so long for the filters to reach their present level of quality (which is very good). Calling it reverse engineered is a little of a dangerous reach, (in my HUMBLE opinion), my guess is a lot of the info is from APIs released by M$, to allow third parties to be able to write macros and other programs that will work with M$ applications, the rest would be obvious to someone studying, say, word processor programing. I don't say this lightly, or with any reservation or apology at all. I think it's past time to just tell MS to take a fly leap on a rolling donut and move away from them in mass. For some it may be a bit difficult, but not impossible. If we don't we've only got ourselves to blame for the feeling of being held hostage by their proprietary systems. I for one am going to begin recommending, and loudly, to my superiors that its time we begin productivity migration away from MS. There just isn't any future in it. O, well, _their_ future, but certainly not one of choice and freedom. -- daRcmaTTeR - If at first you don't succeed do what your wife told you to do the first time! Registered Linux User 182496 Mandrake 8.1 - 7:05pm up 16 days, 10:54, 2 users, load average: 0.39, 0.54, 0.52 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] A sound question!
Thanks Guys. I looked into devfsd and lilo.conf, but thought it look a little too confusing I have more experience of shell programming over lilo config. So opted to creating the link in /etc/rc.d/rc.local. Also created a links to /dev/midi and /dev/mixer. Once again thanks for the help. Cheers Mark Evans On Tuesday 01 January 2002 10:57 pm, you wrote: On Tuesday 01 January 2002 15:27, you wrote: I have found that if you need a thing to load up each time you boot (kinda like adding it to autoexec.bat in dos 5.x +) you could add it as one of the last lines to the file /etc/rc.d/rc.local and save that file (also as root) where does this come from? How does it relate to the previous. What is your point? Guy since I / we was / are answering a question from Mark Evans, and in the question he said I created a link to /dev/dsp from /dev/sound/dsp and then these apps started to generate sound for the first time. After re-booting the link had gone! I have two questions. 1. Where can I configure /dev/dsp to be permanent? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] USB smart media reader
On Sunday 30 December 2001 23:27, Terry C wrote: This is the response I get when attempting to mount this device: mount -t vfat /dev/sda /media/camera mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda, or too many mounted file systems Try sda1, not just sda. It's like mounting a HD, where you have to include a partition number. *** Powered by SuSE Linux 7.2 Professional KDE 2.1.2 KMail 1.2 Bryan S. Tyson [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] problem correctly detecting cdrom
I'm have problems mounting my cdrom. I assume that supermount was installed on the system. I have tried mounting the cdrom drive at the command line and using konqueror with no success. I have two cdroms installed - a TEAC CDRW and a generic cdrom that did not work in windows, so I am only concerned with with getting the TEAC to work. It was working OK with a default install of Mandrake 8.0. When I run HardDrake 3 cdrom devices are detected: 1) Model: 40X CD-ROM Device: /dev/hdd Bus Type: ATAPI/IDE 2) Model: CD-W58E Device: /dev/hdc Bus Type: ATAPI/IDE 3)Vendor: TEAC Model: CD-W58E Device: /dev/scd0 Bus Type: SCSI Seems that HardDrake is detecting the TEAC drive twice. Also, the TEAC drive is not a SCSI drive (I think I would have remembered installing a SCSI card and a big chunk of change leaving my bank account!) Here is my /etc/fstab that I have not edited: /dev/hda9 / ext2 defaults 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0 /mnt/cdrom /mnt/cdrom supermount dev=/dev/scd0,fs=iso9660,exec,ro,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850 0 0/dev/hdd /mnt/cdrom2 auto user,iocharset=iso8859-1,exec,codepage=850,ro,noauto 0 0 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto user,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,exec,codepage=850,noauto 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hda7 /mnt/win_d vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hdb1 /mnt/win_e vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda8 swap swap defaults 0 0 In the boot log it looks like a SCSI driver is being loaded for the CD rom: SCSI subsystem driver Revision: 1.00 scsi0 : SCSI host adapter emulation for IDE ATAPI devices Vendor: TEAC Model: CD-W58E Rev: 1.0A Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Near the end of the log I found this: SCSI cdrom error : host 0 channel 0 id 0 lun 0 return code = 2800 Info fld=0x10, ILI Current sd0b:00: sense key Illegal Request Additional sense indicates Illegal mode for this track I/O error: dev 0b:00, sector 64 isofs_read_super: bread failed, dev=0b:00, iso_blknum=16, block=16 SCSI cdrom error : host 0 channel 0 id 0 lun 0 return code = 2800 Info fld=0x10, ILI Current sd0b:00: sense key Illegal Request Actually, the lines Additional sense... to Info fld=0x10... is repeated five or six times. Also, when I do a ls hd* in /dev hdc is not there but when I look for SCSI devices I find scd0. Any ideas on what I need to do to get the CDrom working? I know this is a lengthy message but I wanted to include all the information that someone who really knows hardware and Mandrake would need. TIA, mr_tortoise Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] USB smart media reader
On Monday 31 December 2001 00:06, Terry C wrote: and received this response: mount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist Be sure you do modprobe usb-storage before trying to mount the CF reader. *** Powered by SuSE Linux 7.2 Professional KDE 2.1.2 KMail 1.2 Bryan S. Tyson [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] USB smart media reader
On Monday 31 December 2001 00:38, Terry C wrote: MAKDEV, or makdev, or mkdev don't seem to be the correct commands. I just keep getting command not found. See if you can do it as root. *** Powered by SuSE Linux 7.2 Professional KDE 2.1.2 KMail 1.2 Bryan S. Tyson [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RE: Office Suites
On Tuesday 01 January 2002 19:23, you wrote: On Tue, 1 Jan 2002 09:12:25 -0500 Ed Tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] studiouisly spake these words to ponder: On Tuesday 01 January 2002 01:38, you wrote: On 31 Dec 2001 20:05:55 -0500, Michael Leone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think Civileme's point was that if/when the UCITA law passes in Washington, USA, then Microsoft (headquartered in Washington) will be able to make a minor change to their proprietary .doc/.xls/whatever file formats, and it will be illegal for Sun or anyone else to reverse-engineer that file format to create a new filter for their competing office suite. Sun licenses the file formats from MS, don't they? They didn't reverse-engineer them, I thought. Nope, they are reverse-engineered. That's why it has taken so long for the filters to reach their present level of quality (which is very good). Calling it reverse engineered is a little of a dangerous reach, (in my HUMBLE opinion), my guess is a lot of the info is from APIs released by M$, to allow third parties to be able to write macros and other programs that will work with M$ applications, the rest would be obvious to someone studying, say, word processor programing. I don't say this lightly, or with any reservation or apology at all. I think it's past time to just tell MS to take a fly leap on a rolling donut and move away from them in mass. For some it may be a bit difficult, but not impossible. If we don't we've only got ourselves to blame for the feeling of being held hostage by their proprietary systems. I for one am going to begin recommending, and loudly, to my superiors that its time we begin productivity migration away from MS. There just isn't any future in it. O, well, _their_ future, but certainly not one of choice and freedom. Just to add my experience with M$ bondage: ALL my documents, in their original format, were in MS Word for Windows 2.0c format. Some I had used in Ventura for DTP. When I decided to switch to LM 8.0, I was left in a quandry. All those documents had to be converted. Unfortunately, W2W 2.0c file format cannot be imported directly in StarOffice 5.2. If I had not made a firm decision to continue with LM, I would have backed out because of this major import problem. Luckily, I could import rtf -- so converted all the documents. My Win partition awaits to be deleted (the kids use it for Caesar III). As far as businesses are concerned, most have upgraded to Word 95/97 etc. So, if the switch would be relatively painless. When I ran my publication, it was a constant struggle to get different programs to work together (in WIn 3.1) . With Linux, I've had few problems, aside from learning a new OS. StarOffice, though it's sort of slow, allows me to plan what I'm about to do -- at least I have time to grab a coffee while it loads! From my limited business experience, I would not trade the stability, ease of use, and functionality of LM, for all the glitz and promise of continuous reboots that I had encountered with M$ products. Furthermore, the threats of forced upgrades, dubious registration tactics, and cost of operating MS might tip the balance for other businesses to switch from MS. It's just a question of time. I agree that there isn't any future in it -- but getting businesses to take that first step. . . . Have a Blessed New Year! Regards, Andre [Btw -- And I'm REALLY Off-Topic here: My wife received the neatest present from her mother: PJ's with a whole bunch of cute,smiling little penguins. Guess that makes her a Linux-Lady -- Maybe LM should promote these? Or send one as a present for Billy's wife???] -- Please pray the Holy Rosary to end the holocaust of abortion. Remember, in your prayers, the suffering souls in Purgatory. May God bless you abundantly with His love! For a free Cenacle Scriptural Rosary Booklet -- http://www.webhart.net/csrb/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] USB smart media reader
On Monday 31 December 2001 19:25, Terry C wrote: Here's some additional information from harddrake under other devices: Vendor: Microtech Model: CameraMate SmartMedia and CompactFlash reader Kernel Module: unknown Bus Type: USB Informations: This device hasn't been identified by HardDrake, please send `/proc/bus/*' files and this device ID `07af0006' to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't know how important it is for the card reader to be identified, but I would think it could be important. I don't know how much these card readers differ between different manufacturers, but I can tell you the SanDisk CF reader is widely known as working great in Linux. It's the one I chose after doing some newsgroup research. Maybe you can try a SanDisk and see if you get better results. *** Powered by SuSE Linux 7.2 Professional KDE 2.1.2 KMail 1.2 Bryan S. Tyson [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] no permission to mount cdrom
Gerald, This is actually further restricted, because user(s) mounting / umounting the CDROM must be in the 'cdrom' group. This also applies to the floppy. In order to mount / umount the floppy drive, you must be in the floppy group. Michael -- Michael Viron Registered Linux User #81978 Senior Systems Administration Consultant Web Spinners, University of West Florida At 01:58 PM 01/01/2002 -0500, you wrote: On Tuesday 01 January 2002 01:34 pm, Julian Opificius wrote: If I understand that what you're asking for is for multiple users to be able to mount and unmount CD-ROMS, then you must change user to users in fstab. See man mount. using users will allow any user to umount the filesystem using user allows any user to mount the filesystem but only the user that mounted the filesystem to umount it. Which sounds like a good idea! Gerald Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Is This (browser type/function) Available in Linux?
On Fri, 28 Dec 2001 13:01:39 -0500 Wes Gregg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I just remembered that I saw a program once that allowed you to type a website address (ie, http://gnttype.org for instance) and tell it how many levels deep you wanted it to go and it would start downloading complete pages to your hard drive for offline browsing. It would allow the option of specifing what type of files to get (html, graphics sound, etc.) or not as the case would be and if you wanted links followed how deep to go in them as well. snip Thanks much, Wes Gregg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User # 252649 i think you are referring to httrack. if i remember it correctly their homepage is at httrack.com but if that fails, do a search at freshmeat.net. be warned that the linux version does not have a gui but the manual written by fred (?) cohen is more than enough to get you started. ciao! -- Programming, an artform that fights back. = Anuerin G. Diaz Design Engineer Millennium Software, Incorporated 2305 B West Tower, Philippines Stocks Exchange Center, Exchange Road, Ortigas Center, Pasig City Tel# 638-3070 loc. 72 Fax# 638-3079 = Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] no permission to mount cdrom
On Tuesday 01 January 2002 08:24 pm, Michael Viron wrote: Gerald, This is actually further restricted, because user(s) mounting / umounting the CDROM must be in the 'cdrom' group. This also applies to the floppy. In order to mount / umount the floppy drive, you must be in the floppy group. Yes, I see, it seems that my users are being automagically added to the cdrom group, but are not so added to the floppy group? Gerald Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] no 'control center' after InteractiveBastille
Hi, After I ran InteractiveBastille I can not get into 'control center' (the one on the desktop with an icon - not the one under k-menu?). A window comes up asking for the root password. I enter the password, press enter, 'control center' just disappears. Any help would be appreciated. TNA Charles Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] knewsticker size of scroll
Hi, I have knewsticker set up nicely and it even calls up Konq when I click on a link. However, my taskbar has grown and knewsticker gets pushed over to the far edge. There is just enough visible to barely see a scrolling series of messages. There are 2 arrows that shift the taskbar in order to see more of what is being hidden. However, when I use the arrows to 'expose' more of the scroll window, it doesn't. I get some nice empty real estate but I can still only see a small sliver of knewsticker. Has this one come up before? Anyone have any ideas? TIA, Bill W. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] bash scripting for beginners
the best bash scripting guide that you can have is the one from linuxdoc.org or better known as the linux documentation project. the BASH-HowTo is often revised for errors and currently equivalent to a 400page book. its more than what you bargained for and a rather obsolete version is included with the help packages in your installation. do yourself a favor and surf to the linuxdoc site and you can find the pdf and html formats there. HTH. On Sat, 29 Dec 2001 22:02:14 +0100 Andrei Raevsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I am looking for a good bash scripting tutorial/manual for BEGINNERS who are new Bash, Linux and scripting. Ideally - a book in PDF format or something in HTML. Please let me know if you know were I could find such an item. Thanks! Andrei _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com -- Programming, an artform that fights back. = Anuerin G. Diaz Design Engineer Millennium Software, Incorporated 2305 B West Tower, Philippines Stocks Exchange Center, Exchange Road, Ortigas Center, Pasig City Tel# 638-3070 loc. 72 Fax# 638-3079 = Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I'm giving up on XP
Go into your bios and change your boot up sequence to boot from CD or something like that. Then you don't need boot disks for Win2k or Win XP. - Original Message - From: Hugo Saro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 7:11 AM Subject: [newbie] I'm giving up on XP I couldn't fix my problem (would be hard w/o the cd anyway), so i'm leaving XP. I want to switch to 2000 Server, but i have no idea of how to create a startup disk for NTFS.. Does anyone know how to ? Thanks, and happy new year guys __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] need help on erase glibc-devel-2.2.4-18mdk rpm
rpm -e glibc-devel-2.2.4 --nodeps then put the old one back on. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of eric Sent: Tuesday, 1 January 2002 8:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] need help on erase glibc-devel-2.2.4-18mdk rpm Dear linux-mandrake users: I ever upgrade glibc-devel from 2.2.2 to 2.2.4 but it seem not nice to compile my c++ program-many compile error, so I decide to erase 2.2.4 then reinstall 2.2.2 but when I do erase by rpm -e glibc-devel-2.2.4 [root@localhost ~/c_program]# rpm -e glibc-devel-2.2.4 error: removing these packages would break dependencies: glibc-devel is needed by gcc-c++-2.96-0.48mdk glibc-devel is needed by gcc-c++-2.96-0.69mdk glibc-devel is needed by gcc-2.96-0.48mdk glibc-devel is needed by gcc-g77-2.96-0.48mdk glibc-devel is needed by gcc-objc-2.96-0.48mdk glibc-devel is needed by gcc3.0-3.0.1-1mdk how should I let it down then reinstall 8.0 cd's 2.2.2? sincer eric, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] what to use for hostname
Hi, I'm was looking at trying to set up postfix on my gateway/router. The mandrake-user doc say that I need a fully qualified domain name. I'm a little confused at what to use. My internet access is by cable with a dynamic ip address. I noticed that windows(before I set up a gateway) thinks my domain name is name.vc.shawcable.net where name is the name I gave the computer. Is this ok to use? Anyone on vc.shawcable.net could have chosen the same name. Thanks Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] [Newbie] Need to install my USB Printer HP656c
On Sunday 30 December 2001 01:31 pm, Tiago Inácio wrote: I'm new at this, but i like very much the mandrake 7.1, so i need your help. Mandrake does not recognize my USB Printer, it is an HP 656c. I need all the steps and suport you can give to me. Bye the Way, Good New Year for all off you guys. Tks. Ass: Tiago Tiago: LM 7.1 had rather limited support for USB -- keyboards, mice and ZIP drives were about it. Although I'm no expert, I think that it was a limitation of the kernal. This might be the time to upgrade to 8.1 -- after all, 7.1 came out in the first half of 2000, and there have been tremendous improvements since then, particularly in the area of hardware support. Regards, and a happy New Year to you --- Carroll Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Slave drive question
I installed a 20 gig slave drive that had windows on it and mounted it with diskdrake. The question I have is, the drive was a 20 gig and when I open Disk Free it shows both of the windows drives and where it says size it shows and incorrect number. One drive is 157Mb and the other is 2.29Gb with the 157Mb being 100% full and the 2.29Gb at 38.9%. This must be incorrect because the drive is a 20 gig. Is there something I am doing wrong here? Also, is it possible to mount the two windows drives (C D) anywhere I want? When I mount them it gives me a list to pick from but I want to be able to mount it to where I want. Thanks in advance, Mithrilhall _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] USB smart media reader
On Tuesday 01 January 2002 20:19, you wrote: I thought - hey, forget about getting my Simpletech Flashlink combo SmartMedia and CompactFlash card reader to work with Linux - I'll just buy one of the Sandisk units. I went to Sandisk's website, and yes, they do state that two of their units, the SSDR31 and 33 models, are compatible with Linux. The first is CompactFlash (including type II) USB, and the second is Secure Digital MultiMediaCard USB. Neither is SmartMedia. Sigh. - Original Message - From: Bryan Tyson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yeah, it can be a bummer. I have one of their older models (ssdr-05) and I've been trying to get it to work for weeks. I guess I'll have to bite the bullet and get a reader that's really compatible. The only consolation is that I've seen a lot of posts around that say the SSDR31 is really cool-mounts no hassle, just like a drive, and the cards can even be partitioned. Some people are trying to figure out how to actually get them to boot the peanut OS. If they manage to figure out how to get a boot sector to work I think that would be super cool. Anyway, the darn flash reader is pretty much the only thing that is keeping me from completely ditching Windows. Right now I have 3 machines that are only linux, one that dual boots linux/W98 and one that duals linux/NT Server. And then there is the one dedicated to W98 (my wife's computer). That has the SanDisk on it, and she's actually complaining because the Win TCP/IP locks up about once a day, and she has to reboot. With a cardreader, I can convert that machine, at least to dual boot, and I don't think I'll hear any more whining. My other dual boot machines get popped into Windows about once a month to run updates--that's it. My wife thinks that the Liquid Theme running with the Slick icon set is pretty, so I won't get any complaints about the desktop, either. Wish me luck, e. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RE: Zip Drive and fstab
Maureen L. Thomas wrote: I am using Mandrake 8.1. I can access my floppy and my cdrom but not the Zip disk. It is an internal Atapi drive. My fstab entry looks like this: /dev/hdd4 /mnt/zip auto user,icharset=iso8859-1,sync,exec,codepage=850,noauto 0 0 when I try to mount with the icon I get the following message: mount special device /dev/hdd4 does not exist I know it is probably something really simple, but I just can't figure it out. Your help is greatly appreciated. Maureen Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com In this case you need to create the device mknod -m a+rw /dev/hdd4 b 22 69 Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] no 'control center' after InteractiveBastille
What feedback do you get from the console when you try to run su? Open up a console window and type su+enter followed by the root passwprd. -Paul Rodríguez On Tue, 2002-01-01 at 21:38, ai4a wrote: Hi, After I ran InteractiveBastille I can not get into 'control center' (the one on the desktop with an icon - not the one under k-menu?). A window comes up asking for the root password. I enter the password, press enter, 'control center' just disappears. Any help would be appreciated. TNA Charles =_1009938918-11608-2836 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I Really Do Like Mandrake!
where do i apply for the job? ;) - Original Message - From: Michel Clasquin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 11:50 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] I Really Do Like Mandrake! On Monday 31 December 2001 14:06, Wes Gregg wrote: I have heard horror stories of people screwing up OS installations, or even deleting/mangling the wrong file before they learned not to. Some of us have managed to do it afterwards too ... regular visits to the cooker will make you an expert on backing up your data! -- Michel Clasquin, D Litt et Phil (Unisa) [EMAIL PROTECTED]/unisa.ac.za http://www.geocities.com/clasqm This message was posted from a Microsoft-free PC f u cn rd ths, u cn gt a gd jb n nx dmnstrtn Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] ScanJet 4c
Being that I am coming from a limited FreeBSD back ground, I am haveing some trouble with another device. I now have a ScanJet 4c with the SCSI card that came with it from HP. I am running LM 8.1. LM does not find the card. All I did was actually reinstall LM. It still did not see it. Should I get another SCSI card, if so, what kind should I get. I really like this scanner, and would like to get it working with LM8.1, any help would me great. Bob Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Using Midnight Commander
On Sat, 2004-10-16 at 23:10, Hoyt Bailey wrote: On Saturday 16 October 2004 07:51, Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 16 Oct 2004 13:14, Hoyt Bailey wrote: On Saturday 16 October 2004 03:02, Stephen Kühn wrote: Top posting is bad? On Sat, 2004-10-16 at 13:45, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: There's been alot of it lately, especially on the Expert list. LX Yes. Also quoting long emails and giving one-line answers. Anne I believe it got the message across. Where else can you get a multitude of answers but on the Mandrake Newbie list? Where else can you get such a cornucopia of information even when a simple answer will suffice? Where else would you get such a bountiful stream of smart-arsed remarks? No where - only here - on the Mandrake Newbie list. Someone needs to write an article about this list for the world to see(or at least the public to see) -- stephen kuhn mobile: 0410-728-389 illawarra and regional new south wales --- GNU/Linux/OpenSource Solutions and Alternatives 100% Microsoft Free and no viruses --- Harry's bar has a new cocktail. It's called MRS punch. They make it with milk, rum and sugar and it's wonderful. The milk is for vitality and the sugar is for pep. They put in the rum so that people will know what to do with all that pep and vitality. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com