[newbie-it] prova
ciao
Rif: Re: [newbie-it] driver modem
Se il mio driver si presenta come 2.04-00_20mdk ,il 20mdk che significa?E' determinante? affermativo. Ehm, direi proprio di no ... ah... allora chiedo scusa... 20mdk significa solo che e' la ventesima ricompilazione di quel modulo nella stessa versione (di solito perche' sono state applicate delle patch minimali a correzione di bug) perdonatemi allora una domanda OT da questo thread.. io ho litigato la settimana scorsa con iptables.. la versione 1.2.4-mdk andava perfetta su un 2.4.8-mdk, ma non funzionava su un 2.4.18... quindi ricompilando iptables-1.2.6a su un 2.4.18 tutto è funzionato.. ho chiesto in ml e mi è stato detto che i pacchetti xxx-mdk sono predisposti per i kernel mdk, i quali vengono patchati all'origine... da qui la mia deduzione che quel 20mdk fosse significante nel caso di tentativi di installazione su un kernel _non_ mdk.. richiedo ancora scusa. buona giornata e grazie a LukenShiro della correzione.. :-) - jv -
[newbie-it] driver
Grazie per chi mi ha dato una risposta innanzitutto. Allora provo a prendere i sorgenti del driver del mio modem slmdm-2.04-00_20mdk.src.rpm e lo ricompilo nella mkk8.2. Dovrei ottenere dei pacchetti rpm tipo slmdm-2.4.18...? Ciao
Re: [newbie-it] configurazione hardware
grazie per la risposta - Original Message - From: tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; x [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 6:07 PM Subject: Re: [newbie-it] configurazione hardware Alle 14:31, sabato 4 maggio 2002, x ha scritto: 1) non riesco a far riconoscre al sistema un modem isdn. su isa plug e pray mi dice stringa (lectron winet express isdn), i chip sono siemens come quelli del teles 16.3, su winzozz il modem funziona con entrambi i drivers, ma non so come fare a descriverlo. credo che il problema sia la stringa plug e pray, ma non so come fare a non farla leggere a linux Prova a mettere in LILO/GRUB(dipende da che usi) nobiospnp io ti posso dare indicazioni solo per grub.. /boot/grub/menu.lst devi inserire nobiospnp (nelle righe che fanno partire linux) dopo vmlinuz..ottenendo piu o meno questo title linux kernel (hd1,0)/boot/vmlinuz nobiospnp root=/dev/hdb1. alle volte questo risolve parekki problemi anke con skede audio. purtroppo stavolta no :-( 2) scheda audio ectiva ev 1935 machone pci. non so come farla funzionare: la riconosce come scheda audio, ma resta muta tuo stesso problema uguale uguale ma skeda diversa prova ad eseguire da root #lsmod facendo cosi controlli che moduli ha caricato il kernel...se vedi moduli riguardanti la tua skeda qualcuno qui ti potra aiutare a farli funzionare (disicuro non io:) in caso contrario o qualcuno qui ha la tua stessa skeda oppure ti aspetta una bella ricerca nel mare degli Howto non mi pare di averti dato un grande aiuto.ma cmq inboccaalupo Ciao , Tom grazie, cmq
Re: [newbie-it] configurazione hardware (scusate per la lunghezza)
grazie per la risposta - Original Message - From: miKe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 6:30 PM Subject: Re: [newbie-it] configurazione hardware -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Il 14:31, sabato 4 maggio 2002, in merito a [newbie-it] configurazione hardware, x ha scritto: 1) non riesco a far riconoscre al sistema un modem isdn. su isa plug e pray mi dice stringa (lectron winet express isdn), ... credo che il problema sia la stringa plug e pray, ma non so come fare a non farla leggere a linux oltre a connettere pregando :-P disabilita il PnP da bios e da LILO fatto, ma inutile se può servire allego pnpdump # pnpdump # $Id: pnpdump_main.c,v 1.27 2001/04/30 21:54:53 fox Exp $ # Release isapnptools-1.26 # # This is free software, see the sources for details. # This software has NO WARRANTY, use at your OWN RISK # # For details of the output file format, see isapnp.conf(5) # # For latest information and FAQ on isapnp and pnpdump see: # http://www.roestock.demon.co.uk/isapnptools/ # # Compiler flags: -DREALTIME -DHAVE_PROC -DENABLE_PCI -DHAVE_SCHED_SETSCHEDULER -DHAVE _NANOSLEEP -DWANT_TO_VALIDATE # # Trying port address 0273 # Board 1 has serial identifier b2 02 ca 2a 53 17 21 27 50 # (DEBUG) (READPORT 0x0273) (ISOLATE PRESERVE) (IDENTIFY *) (VERBOSITY 2) (CONFLICT (IO FATAL)(IRQ FATAL)(DMA FATAL)(MEM FATAL)) # or WARNING # Card 1: (serial identifier b2 02 ca 2a 53 17 21 27 50) # Vendor Id TAG2117, Serial Number 46803539, checksum 0xB2. # Version 1.7, Vendor version 1.3 # ANSI string --LECTRON Winet ISDNExpress PnP-- # # Logical device id TAG2117 # Device supports vendor reserved register @ 0x3b # Device supports vendor reserved register @ 0x3c # Device supports vendor reserved register @ 0x3d # # Edit the entries below to uncomment out the configuration required. # Note that only the first value of any range is given, this may be changed if required # Don't forget to uncomment the activate (ACT Y) when happy (CONFIGURE TAG2117/46803539 (LD 0 # Multiple choice time, choose one only ! # Start dependent functions: priority preferred # Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines # Minimum IO base address 0x0580 # Maximum IO base address 0x0580 # IO base alignment 64 bytes # Number of IO addresses required: 32 # (IO 0 (SIZE 32) (BASE 0x0580)) # Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines # Minimum IO base address 0x0180 # Maximum IO base address 0x0180 # IO base alignment 64 bytes # Number of IO addresses required: 64 # (IO 1 (SIZE 64) (BASE 0x0180)) # IRQ 3, 4, 5, 9, 10, 11, 12 or 15. # High true, edge sensitive interrupt (by default) # (INT 0 (IRQ 3 (MODE +E))) # Start dependent functions: priority acceptable # Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines # Minimum IO base address 0x0500 # Maximum IO base address 0x0580 # IO base alignment 64 bytes # Number of IO addresses required: 32 # (IO 0 (SIZE 32) (BASE 0x0500)) # Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines # Minimum IO base address 0x0100 # Maximum IO base address 0x0180 # IO base alignment 64 bytes # Number of IO addresses required: 64 # (IO 1 (SIZE 64) (BASE 0x0100)) # IRQ 10, 11 or 12. # High true, edge sensitive interrupt (by default) # (INT 0 (IRQ 10 (MODE +E))) # Start dependent functions: priority acceptable # Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines # Minimum IO base address 0x0680 # Maximum IO base address 0x0680 # IO base alignment 64 bytes # Number of IO addresses required: 32 # (IO 0 (SIZE 32) (BASE 0x0680)) # Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines # Minimum IO base address 0x0280 # Maximum IO base address 0x0280 # IO base alignment 64 bytes # Number of IO addresses required: 64 # (IO 1 (SIZE 64) (BASE 0x0280)) # IRQ 10, 11 or 12. # High true, edge sensitive interrupt (by default) # (INT 0 (IRQ 10 (MODE +E))) # Start dependent functions: priority functional # Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines # Minimum IO base address 0x1500 # Maximum IO base address 0x17c0 # IO base alignment 64 bytes # Number of IO addresses required: 32 # (IO 0 (SIZE 32) (BASE 0x1500)) # Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines # Minimum IO base address 0x1100 # Maximum IO base address 0x13c0 # IO base alignment 64 bytes # Number of IO addresses required: 64 # (IO 1 (SIZE 64) (BASE 0x1100)) # IRQ 3, 4, 5, 9, 10, 11, 12 or 15. # High true, edge sensitive interrupt (by default) # (INT 0 (IRQ 3 (MODE +E))) #
Re: Rif: Re: [newbie-it] driver modem
On Mon, 6 May 2002, jv wrote: Ehm, direi proprio di no ... ah... allora chiedo scusa... E di che? ;-) io ho litigato la settimana scorsa con iptables.. la versione 1.2.4-mdk andava perfetta su un 2.4.8-mdk, ma non funzionava su un 2.4.18... quindi ricompilando iptables-1.2.6a su un 2.4.18 tutto è funzionato.. ho chiesto in ml e mi è stato detto che i pacchetti xxx-mdk sono predisposti per i kernel mdk, i quali vengono patchati all'origine... Il pacchetto 1.2.4-Xmdk non avrebbe funzionato neanche su un 2.4.8 liscio. Faccio una piccolissima precisazione (credo di averti risposto io nell'altra ML): iptables crea due ordini di problemi: 1) [gia' esposto] che il pacchetto rpm X.Y.Z-Wmdk di iptables e' costruito in relazione al kernel A.B.C-Ymdk, e non funziona cosi' com'e' con un' altra versione [serve appunto una compilazione dei sorgenti] 2) che un iptables recente (mandrakizzato o meno) ha cmq bisogno per funzionare di una versione del kernel (liscio o -mdk) superiore ad un dato numero, altrimenti non andra', _neanche_ se compilato da sorgente. Guarda p.es. http://www.iptables.org/files/changes-iptables-1.2.6a.txt This version requires kernel = 2.4.4 This version recommends kernel = 2.4.18 [questo piu' che altro mi suona di mooolto caldamente consigliato, per fare il suo lavoro in modo ottimale] -- LU #210970 LM #98222 - MDK8.2 elaborata - krnl 2.4.18-6mdk Dopo un gran casino con un HD IBM un po' bacato, la Cooker impazzita e i backup inservibili, preferisco non testare piu' niente :P
[newbie-it] rete locale
ciao a tutti sono nuovo e mi sono appena iscritto in quanto o da poco istallato Mandrake linux 8.2 su di un pc all'interno di una grande rete composta da macchine che montano win 2000 o nt4il mio problema è il seguen te: tutte le macchine della rete riescono a vedere il mio pc con linux mentre dalla mia macchina quando vado su rete locale dal menu mi da l'errore impossibile collegarsi all'host localhost. la configurazione della rete credo che sia giusta dato che si internet va. da cosa puo dipendere ?
Re: [newbie-it] rete locale
- Original Message - From: Jacopo Mugnaini To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 12:13 PM Subject: [newbie-it] rete locale ciao a tutti sono nuovo e mi sono appena iscritto in quanto o da poco istallato Mandrake linux 8.2 su di un pc all'interno di una grande rete composta da macchine che montano win 2000 o nt4il mio problema è il seguen te: tutte le macchine della rete riescono a vedere il mio pc con linux mentre dalla mia macchina quando vado su rete locale dal menu mi da l'errore impossibile collegarsi all'host localhost. la configurazione della rete credo che sia giusta dato che si internet va. da cosa puo dipendere ? prova con konqueror scrivendosmb://nomealtropc o ipaltropc, oppure dal mandrake control center selezioni punti di mount samba e dai un indirizzo alle risorse condivise spero di esserti stato utile
Re: [newbie-it] driver
On Mon, 6 May 2002, Augusto wrote: Allora provo a prendere i sorgenti del driver del mio modem slmdm-2.04-00_20mdk.src.rpm e lo ricompilo nella mkk8.2. Dovrei ottenere dei pacchetti rpm tipo slmdm-2.4.18...? Be', no, al massimo otterresti un slmdm-2.04-00_20mdk.iX86.rpm [con al posto della X la cpu target della compilazione]. Cmq hai due possibilita': o lo compili+ pacchettizzi+installi con un'apposita opzione tuttofare di rpm (mi pare che sia '--build', ma non ho mai avuto l'occasione di usarla, dovresti guardare il man rpm); oppure lo installi come se fosse un normale rpm binario, ti creera' (tra l'altro) in /usr/src/RPM/SOURCES un file compresso (tar/gzip o tar/bzip2) che inizia per slmdm e che compilerai come sorgente dopo averlo scompattato con tar xvzf (o xvjf). -- LU #210970 LM #98222 - MDK8.2 elaborata - krnl 2.4.18-6mdk Dopo un gran casino con un HD IBM un po' bacato, la Cooker impazzita e i backup inservibili, preferisco non testare piu' niente :P
Re: [newbie-it] [OT] blocco ADSL [was: Continuando (ancora) con LimeWire]
On Mon, 6 May 2002, Andrea - Tamalandia wrote: Non è una diceria: ADSL bloccata per una settimana!!! A me! Giurin giuretta! :-)) Si è bloccata esattamente 20 secondi dopo aver lanciato LimeWire. Sara' una pura coincidenza (vedi lavori in corso di telecomica o provider con banda subdimensionata nella tua zona, e rimpallo tra sordi). Per quanto riguarda la possibilita' legale di usare o meno determinati programmi o servizi, devi guardare il tuo contratto di fornitura (... che sicuramente avrai letto _attentamente_, prima di firmarlo, veeero?? :PPP): se hai commesso un'illecito contrattuale di una certa importanza non ti bloccano il servizio per una settimana, ma piuttosto chiedono la risoluzione del contratto per inadempimento da parte tua e il risarcimento degli eventuali danni :) -- LU #210970 LM #98222 - MDK8.2 elaborata - krnl 2.4.18-6mdk Dopo un gran casino con un HD IBM un po' bacato, la Cooker impazzita e i backup inservibili, preferisco non testare piu' niente :P
Re: [newbie-it] Fw: Results of your commands
Laura ^.* wrote: ciao quando mando la richiesta per togliere l'iscrizione, mi manda, si, la conferma da sympa ma poi ritorna con questo messaggio No command found in message non socosa devo fare?? prova a mettere nel testo del messaggio un comando analogo al subject.: disiscrivimi da newbie-it Sei sicura di non essere già stata rimossa? Gli headers di questo tuo ultimo messaggio sono poco standard.Quindi ti rispondo sia pubblicamente che in privato. Alla peggio, vai sul sito Mandrake, alla pagina ML e disiscriviti da li. ciao, andrea
Re: [newbie-it] [OT] blocco ADSL [was: Continuando (ancora) con Lime Wire]
Allora... io l'ho sempre usato con win98. L'adsl ce l'ho da 1,5 anni. Ho cambiato pc. Intallato XP e ADSL e andava benissimo. Poi ho messo LimeWire e si è impiantato. Ai miei amici andava benissimo. Quindi presumo che sia un impallamento dovuto a LM. Tu dici di no?! 06/05/2002 13.08.45, LukenShiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: On Mon, 6 May 2002, Andrea - Tamalandia wrote: Non è una diceria: ADSL bloccata per una settimana!!! A me! Giurin giuretta! :-)) Si è bloccata esattamente 20 secondi dopo aver lanciato LimeWire. Sara' una pura coincidenza (vedi lavori in corso di telecomica o provider con banda subdimensionata nella tua zona, e rimpallo tra sordi). Per quanto riguarda la possibilita' legale di usare o meno determinati programmi o servizi, devi guardare il tuo contratto di fornitura (... che sicuramente avrai letto _attentamente_, prima di firmarlo, veeero?? :PPP): se hai commesso un'illecito contrattuale di una certa importanza non ti bloccano il servizio per una settimana, ma piuttosto chiedono la risoluzione del contratto per inadempimento da parte tua e il risarcimento degli eventuali danni :)
Re: Rif: Re: [newbie-it] driver modem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Il 14:38, lunedì 6 maggio 2002, in merito a Rif: Re: [newbie-it] driver modem, jv ha scritto: 20mdk significa solo che e' la ventesima ricompilazione di quel modulo nella stessa versione (di da qui la mia deduzione che quel 20mdk fosse significante nel caso di tentativi di installazione su un kernel _non_ mdk.. non è il 20 ma l'mdk che ti frega.. bye miKe __ Slackware 8 GNU/Linux 2.4.18 hp Xe3 R.U.#219755 - S.R.U.#705 - R.M.#110932 - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE81mraF/9fksDJ4y0RAjffAJ4o2oD6MvP2XBLPLv4lBUlK5tdFAgCgqqxT VBV0XZeu9ymV+ulCVKEE7fc= =Fj86 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [newbie-it] [OT] blocco ADSL [was: Continuando (ancora) con LimeWire]
On Mon, 6 May 2002, Andrea - Tamalandia wrote: Ho cambiato pc. Intallato XP e ADSL e andava benissimo. Poi ho messo LimeWire e si è impiantato. Ai miei amici andava benissimo. Quindi presumo che sia un impallamento dovuto a LM. Tu dici di no?! Direi un impallamento dovuto a uindous, piu' che altro ;-) E' quasi impossibile che un software ti incasini la connessione, a meno che non agisca modificando i parametri di questa ... (e non credo sinceramente che un programma di condivisione musicale faccia questo). Ma, come ribadisco, tutto e' possibile ... e il discorso va profondamente off-topic SaluT, Lk
[newbie-it] komba
ho installato komba su la mandrake 8.2 ma come faccio a lanciarlo???
Re: [newbie-it] komba
Alle 15:06, lunedì 6 maggio 2002, Jacopo Mugnaini ha scritto: ho installato komba su la mandrake 8.2 ma come faccio a lanciarlo??? Hai due metodi: 1) Apri una console e digiti komba 2) clic su Go (la Kappa o il piede di Gnome) e poi su Esegui Comando. Digita comba al suo interno e poi premi invio. Un saluto.
Re: [newbie-it] driver
On Mon, 6 May 2002, freefred wrote: si', l'opzione esatta dovrebbe essere rpm --rebuild file.src.rpm Gia', e' vero! Cioe', nel caso tu abbia che so un pentium ti creera' un rpm i586 e cosi' via, ma se hai problemi di compatibilita' tra il modulo e il kernel quelli rimarranno. Teoricamente, dato che si tratta di un sorgente (pacchettizzato rpm ma pur sempre tale) non dovrebbe aver problemi, dato che si tratta di compilarlo da zero (AFAIK avrebbe potenziali problemi di compatibilita' se avesse avuto a disposizione solo un modulo binario da inserire). -- LU #210970 LM #98222 - MDK8.2 elaborata / 2.4.18-6mdk Pubblicita' progresso - Abbasso a: crossposting, quoting selvaggio, email HTML, documenti di oscuro formato M$, siti web non usufruibili, troll che fanno sprecare banda, patenti software per bambini, normative partorite per via rettale, i Savoia .. ecc..
[newbie-it] 8.2 in edicola
Ciao! Per chi non se ne fosse accorto (spedisco questa mail prima di scaricare la posta, percio' la mia info potrebbe essere un doppione): con la rivista LinuxC ci sono i tre CD della Mamdrake 8.2. -- A presto, Arwan mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] Setting Keyboard Auto Repeat Delay
Admiittedly this is trivial wwhen compared to problems some newbies have, but it has me stumped. The tuorepeat of my keyboard appears to be around 0.25 seconds with the repeat rate of about 30/sec or more. I tried setting them as follows: DelayRepeat BIOS1 sec 6 / sec XF86Config 3 sec 10/sec XF86Config-43 sec 10/sec But my keyboard still takes off too fast. Any ideas? I will borrow another brand of keyboard from work tomorrow (Monday) on the off chance that this Dell keyboard has the Auto Repeat function hard coded. Thanks, /Pen ps. The double characters you see in the message occured naturally and were not edited out. As you can see, the problem nipped my a couple of times in this message alone. It's relaly frustrating with passwords!! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Dcopserver
Linux Mandrake 8.2 , Every now and again, upon boot up, I get the message which goes something like, Unable to locate mail something, , please check that your DCOP-SERVER is running. This only happens occassionally, but I do not know what it means. I also notice that in home directory there is also another file besides Dcopserver called Mcopserver,are these relevant ? My bootups do not include automatic connection to any IPS. regards, John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] quake2
OK folks - I've downloaded the tar file for quake2, unzipped it into a folder etc, but can't find how to get it to install or run :-(( The readme has lots of useful info, but nothing quite as simple as 'how to get it going'!! What do I do next? TIA and sorry for the silly question (asI am sure it is :-)) Heather
[newbie] PDF Files
I have been using WordPerfect to compose business letters, and exported to pdf when I didn't know whether or not the recipient had WordPerfect. Is there a LInux wordprocesser that will export in .pdf? Corel WP does not so I am back in the Windows box for yet another reason. Right now this issue, DesignCad, and PCB Designer are all that are holding me to Windows. I know.I have Linux programs that cover the CAD stuff, but the learning curve is digging in to my basic lazy character. Anyway, I'm not a nut to get off Windows. I found that if I keep two Windows boxes and the Linux box in network, mirror important Windows stuff in the two boxes and archive in the Linux box where everything is snug and secure, BSOD can't get me! I have the best of both worlds. A little expensive, but us lazy guys have to go the distance. When I get free, what do I do with the other two boxes? Lee Registered Linux abuser #223705 The best indication that there is intelligent life elsewhere is that they haven't contacted us. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Stocks
Well Marcia, I sympathize with you. I haven't found any good way of doing it so far, and amongst one such problem for instance is the lack of Point and figure charts, an absolute elementary basic form of financial charting. Those graph programmes that do exist are centered around the kind of windows programmes, which usually mean plain old single line graphs , bar charts, pie charts etc etc. and although these are satisfactory in the ordinary world, they are less than suitable for financial charting. Another important problem is import of financial statistics.These come in various forms which range from the very costly professional screen based inputs like Tellerate and Reuters, to your humble much under rated Teletext, your broker, and of course manual input. Without a good input system financial stock tracking is meaningless in Linux. There needs to be the capacity to not only input these stats but to connect them to point and figure charts automatically. This is essential since one cannot daily update stock figures by hand , the time taken to update hundreds of daily closing stock prices and together with the range on the day is obviously only feasible when incorporated into a computer programme. Yet another feature that is sadly lacking is the calculation of moving averages. Well, I suppose I ought to take that back, I use kspread to calculate my moving averages,but I have two problems, one , when the stats build up and become more than so much worth the amount of memory required goes up immensly,not that I mind that, since , well you only get what you pay for, and well calculating say a 200 day moving average takes more than 128Mb of SDRAM, If you want to be able to sweep down the calculation en block rather than individually calculate each cell . The second problem is that I cannot automatically input the stock stats. Another Manual job. I suppose what I am saying here is that the creation of a good stock trading programme in Linux requires the setting up of a team to create it, since it is a specialized feature and requires the support and combining of several other programme features as well, in much the same way as say xcdroast requires 6 or 7 other supporting programmes like cdrecord,cdparanoia, and mkisofs, etc etc. I have to say that out there in the wide world there is plenty of demand for such a programme and I am sure that it would do much to enhance the Linux worlds reputations and create good demand for Linux OS's that support it. Whether there is the will to do it I do not know. One of the problems that would be encountered is the fact that whatever exists currently to connect and trade with brokers is to the best of my knowledge written in C++ and NTFS , I openly admit I may be wrong here I am no programmer, but I suspect there will be compatibility issues to overcome. I don't think there are any standard formats for broker programmes, I haven't seem much of them, I prefer to do things by email, but , a good stock trader programme really connects directly to a broker and feeds of info gained thus by. Currently in the Country where I live(UK) no ordinary individual can afford the extortionate connection charges to be connected to the internets 24 hours a day, but in other parts of the world things are better, so broker programmers would be useful in those areas, but as time goes buy even luddite Countries like mine, will get there. I suspect brokers themselves would welcome the creation of some standardized programmes that they could acquire inexpensively and offer to their client base so that they can trade with them. Currently those that offer online trading systems have to get someone to write a programme for them, and of course this means that each broker has different requirements. John On Sunday 05 May 2002 17:50, you wrote: Dear All, Does anyone trade stocks and track them using Linux? If so, how are you doing this? Is there a totally free way to do this or at least inexpensive? Thank you. Sincerely, Marcia -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] PDF Files
Hi, One way is to print into a postscript file and the convert in pdf thanks to the pdf2ps command. Fred Lee wrote: I have been using WordPerfect to compose business letters, and exported to pdf when I didn't know whether or not the recipient had WordPerfect. Is there a LInux wordprocesser that will export in .pdf? Corel WP does not so I am back in the Windows box for yet another reason. Right now this issue, DesignCad, and PCB Designer are all that are holding me to Windows. I know.I have Linux programs that cover the CAD stuff, but the learning curve is digging in to my basic lazy character. Anyway, I'm not a nut to get off Windows. I found that if I keep two Windows boxes and the Linux box in network, mirror important Windows stuff in the two boxes and archive in the Linux box where everything is snug and secure, BSOD can't get me! I have the best of both worlds. A little expensive, but us lazy guys have to go the distance. When I get free, what do I do with the other two boxes? Lee Registered Linux abuser #223705 The best indication that there is intelligent life elsewhere is that they haven't contacted us. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 2 distributions on 1 computer?????
On Monday 06 May 2002 10:06 am, skinky wrote: On 06 May 2002 08:48, adrian wrote: Hello, I have mandrake 8.2 installed on my computer and i wanted to try redhat so i installed it to on a difrent partition ( same harddrive ) . After the installation i rebooted my computer and up came the mandrake lilo thingie and red hat was not in any of the options, so i went into mandrake control center and added the hde which was the red hat partiion and then rebooted, The option was there but when i chose it i got all kinds of failure and it wouldnt boot up, so i wonder if i can run 2 distribution on the same harddrive and computer ? and also do i need 1 swap for each distrubtion or can they share swap? If its possible to run 2 i would be gratefull if you could tell me how to set it up. Best regards Adrian I just installed redhat and had lilo/boot problems also. You only need the one swap partition. I have a separate /boot partition which I share between the distros - be sure NOT to format the /boot partition is you have the same setup. During the redhat install I chose not to install a boot loader - thought I would rather keep Mandrake's lilo going. When the rh installation finished I rebooted with the boot floppy (made during installation) and all seemed OK. I rebooted from the hard drive to Mandrake (with Mandrake's lilo) and edited lilo.conf to include the rh partition. However upon running lilo (# /sbin/lilo) I got an error about an older version. So I rebooted with the rh boot floppy, uninstalled lilo (rh had automatically installed lilo but /etc/lilo.conf did not exist), then reinstalled lilo. I edited the lilo.conf to include Mandrake and ran # /sbin/lilo. All is well but I don't like rh's boot loader (its ugly). From what Civileme said I think you need to install rh first then install Mandrake to use Mandrake's lilo. I might reinstall Mandrake later in the week - I'm getting faster at setting up apache, samba and twiki and upgrading all packages ; ). BTW rh is a lot slower than Mandrake on my machine! I'm still downloading all the updates (sloww dial-up internet connection). IMHO rh's installation is much cleaner/clearer than Mandrake's but I prefer Mandrake any day! I needed to try rh because I only have Mandrake 8.0 and 8.1 and most of my friends who are keen to try linux have older i386/i486s. While I'm here, can anyone tell me if Mandrake 7.2 runs on the older pcs and if it is much different to 8.0/8.1? skinky if you have two /boot then copy the kernal and initrd from redhat to mandrake boot. (the ones with the version number after it). Edit /etc/fstab to mount one visible to the other. This info in from Civilemes more thorough reply on 20 April to the Dual Booting with Multiple Linux Distro's thread. -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Early distro on older PC (was 2 distributions on 1 computer?????)
While I'm here, can anyone tell me if Mandrake 7.2 runs on the older pcs and if it is much different to 8.0/8.1? skinky I have 7.1 running on a p1 circa 95-96 second PC and it is graphically very different. Mandrake won't run on a 486 or 386 as it is compiled for pentiums. I beleive there is a 486 distro downloadable (from memory). -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Dcopserver
Linux Mandrake 8.2 , Every now and again, upon boot up, I get the message which goes something like, Unable to locate mail something, , please check that your DCOP-SERVER is running. This only happens occassionally, but I do not know what it means. I also notice that in home directory there is also another file besides Dcopserver called Mcopserver,are these relevant ? My bootups do not include automatic connection to any IPS. regards, John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Stocks
Well Marcia, I sympathize with you. I haven't found any good way of doing it so far, and amongst one such problem for instance is the lack of Point and figure charts, an absolute elementary basic form of financial charting. Those graph programmes that do exist are centered around the kind of windows programmes, which usually mean plain old single line graphs , bar charts, pie charts etc etc. and although these are satisfactory in the ordinary world, they are less than suitable for financial charting. Another important problem is import of financial statistics.These come in various forms which range from the very costly professional screen based inputs like Tellerate and Reuters, to your humble much under rated Teletext, your broker, and of course manual input. Without a good input system financial stock tracking is meaningless in Linux. There needs to be the capacity to not only input these stats but to connect them to point and figure charts automatically. This is essential since one cannot daily update stock figures by hand , the time taken to update hundreds of daily closing stock prices and together with the range on the day is obviously only feasible when incorporated into a computer programme. Yet another feature that is sadly lacking is the calculation of moving averages. Well, I suppose I ought to take that back, I use kspread to calculate my moving averages,but I have two problems, one , when the stats build up and become more than so much worth the amount of memory required goes up immensly,not that I mind that, since , well you only get what you pay for, and well calculating say a 200 day moving average takes more than 128Mb of SDRAM, If you want to be able to sweep down the calculation en block rather than individually calculate each cell . The second problem is that I cannot automatically input the stock stats. Another Manual job. I suppose what I am saying here is that the creation of a good stock trading programme in Linux requires the setting up of a team to create it, since it is a specialized feature and requires the support and combining of several other programme features as well, in much the same way as say xcdroast requires 6 or 7 other supporting programmes like cdrecord,cdparanoia, and mkisofs, etc etc. I have to say that out there in the wide world there is plenty of demand for such a programme and I am sure that it would do much to enhance the Linux worlds reputations and create good demand for Linux OS's that support it. Whether there is the will to do it I do not know. One of the problems that would be encountered is the fact that whatever exists currently to connect and trade with brokers is to the best of my knowledge written in C++ and NTFS , I openly admit I may be wrong here I am no programmer, but I suspect there will be compatibility issues to overcome. I don't think there are any standard formats for broker programmes, I haven't seem much of them, I prefer to do things by email, but , a good stock trader programme really connects directly to a broker and feeds of info gained thus by. Currently in the Country where I live(UK) no ordinary individual can afford the extortionate connection charges to be connected to the internets 24 hours a day, but in other parts of the world things are better, so broker programmers would be useful in those areas, but as time goes buy even luddite Countries like mine, will get there. I suspect brokers themselves would welcome the creation of some standardized programmes that they could acquire inexpensively and offer to their client base so that they can trade with them. Currently those that offer online trading systems have to get someone to write a programme for them, and of course this means that each broker has different requirements. John On Sunday 05 May 2002 17:50, you wrote: Dear All, Does anyone trade stocks and track them using Linux? If so, how are you doing this? Is there a totally free way to do this or at least inexpensive? Thank you. Sincerely, Marcia -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Dad hates MS!! Now what?
Hi all, I was chatting with my dad the other night about his adventures with Windows XP. He starts out with "Man, I hate Microsoft!" :-D Ok, so now what? I mentioned Mandrake to him and he seems interested... However, I don't know where to point him. What applications should I suggest? And for support, should I just point him to this list? He knows just enough to be dangerous (would "Interactive Bastille" help with that? - you know, something to protect yourself from yourself)... Unfortunately he doesn't live local so I couldn't set it up for him (unless somehow over the net?). I'm very much a newbie to this operating system, and Linux and general. But if you have any ideas how to help the process of a 50 year old Dad interested in a Microsoft alternative, please let me know. Thanks!
RE: [newbie] The Register: Preinstalled Windows Illegal to Remove ?
Other states have better gun laws than this state (read: less restrictive on law abiding tax paying citizens), such as Texas, Tennessee, and a few others I can't remember. Here in Georgia, in the city I live in Kennesaw, GA there is a city ordinance that you cannot live inside the city without owning a Firearm. There is not that many home break-ins here, most of the crime we have is traffic violations in the city of Kennesaw, there are the occasional break-ins but those are of stores, not homes. Anyway I think all should be allowed to own weapons, especially for defense of your home. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] The Register: Preinstalled Windows Illegal to Remove ?
How about we save the pro-gun shit for the IamaHickWhoLikesToKill mail list. This list is about linux - or it was. On Mon, 2002-05-06 at 22:18, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Other states have better gun laws than this state (read: less restrictive on law abiding tax paying citizens), such as Texas, Tennessee, and a few others I can't remember. Here in Georgia, in the city I live in Kennesaw, GA there is a city ordinance that you cannot live inside the city without owning a Firearm. There is not that many home break-ins here, most of the crime we have is traffic violations in the city of Kennesaw, there are the occasional break-ins but those are of stores, not homes. Anyway I think all should be allowed to own weapons, especially for defense of your home. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] OT over reacting
Well it actually came on the installation CD's, then again since I am new to linux that may not be what I am looking for and could explain why it doesn't work. When I did my install (clean). I choose expert mode and selected the option to install individual packages and one of them was wine. Which told me it was for emulating windows. figure this might be helpful to me as a beginner so I installed it and the man page for it. I have looked on http://winehq.com and they have a download section for the binaries and source. from what some people have said they might be on http://www.rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/ Sorry I can't be of more help, with locating the packages, but I would still appreciate the tips :) Thanks Mike -Original Message- From: daRcmaTTeR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 6:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] OT over reacting On Fri, 3 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have installed Winex, but I just can't figure out how to get it to work, I am fairly new to Linux and still learning. I installed it when I installed the Linux OS on the machine. I read the man page for wine and it didn't make much sense to me. I have also tried to read docs on the winehq.com website. Can you please send me some tips on how to get it working properly. Mike, I'll share tips with you if you'll tell me where in the sam-hill you found those nasty buggers. I can't find the packages anywhare. 'course I may not be looking in the right place either. -- daRcmaTTeR -- Registered Linux User 182496 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] The Register: Preinstalled Windows Illegal to Remove ?
On Mon, 6 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Other states have better gun laws than this state (read: less restrictive on law abiding tax paying citizens), such as Texas, Tennessee, and a few others I can't remember. Here in Georgia, in the city I live in Kennesaw, GA there is a city ordinance that you cannot live inside the city without owning a Firearm. There is not that many home break-ins here, most of the crime we have is traffic violations in the city of Kennesaw, there are the occasional break-ins but those are of stores, not homes. Anyway I think all should be allowed to own weapons, especially for defense of your home. now THAT is a city ordinance I can live with! -- daRcmaTTeR -- Registered Linux User 182496 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dad hates MS!! Now what?
my sugestion, purchase a powerpack from the mandrake store, to be delivered to his house, explain how to get the computer to boot from a CD, and point him to this list. thats about all... and don't forget, 50 ain't that old (shesh). On Monday 06 May 2002 08:17 am, you wrote: Hi all, I was chatting with my dad the other night about his adventures with Windows XP. He starts out with Man, I hate Microsoft! :-D Ok, so now what? I mentioned Mandrake to him and he seems interested... However, I don't know where to point him. What applications should I suggest? And for support, should I just point him to this list? He knows just enough to be dangerous (would Interactive Bastille help with that? - you know, something to protect yourself from yourself)... Unfortunately he doesn't live local so I couldn't set it up for him (unless somehow over the net?). I'm very much a newbie to this operating system, and Linux and general. But if you have any ideas how to help the process of a 50 year old Dad interested in a Microsoft alternative, please let me know. Thanks! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dad hates MS!! Now what?
Tommy Eaton wrote: I was chatting with my dad the other night about his adventures with Windows XP. He starts out with Man, I hate Microsoft! Ok, so now what? I mentioned Mandrake to him and he seems interested... However, I don't know where to point him. What applications should I suggest? And for support, should I just point him to this list? He knows just enough to be dangerous (would Interactive Bastille help with that? - you know, something to protect yourself from yourself)... Unfortunately he doesn't live local so I couldn't set it up for him (unless somehow over the net?). I'm very much a newbie to this operating system, and Linux and general. But if you have any ideas how to help the process of a 50 year old Dad interested in a Microsoft alternative, please let me know. Thanks! I just have some ideas of what not to do and some questions: Don't tell him that Linux is (better | easier | more robust | requires fewer resources (mem and CPU)) than Microsoft without giving some qualifiers. (It is certainly not all four at the same time, it can use less resources if you use the command line only -- to get performance similar to equivalent applications under Win95, I had to add a lot of memory. I have crashed Linux, usually from the GUI, and sometimes was able to simply restart X (i.e., not a real crash.) What does he do with the computer -- email and surf the net, use it for work, as a hobby, or to support some hobby? Does he need some specific applications? Word processing, spreadsheet, drawing, CAD, paint, flow chart, presentation, geneology, stock tracking, database ...? Which? Did he learn Windows on his own? Would he expect to learn Linux on his own? Is he willing to do the extensive reading that may be necessary to do this? Is there anybody available to coach him? Are you ahead of him enough that you might coach him while you scramble to keep one step ahead of him? Do you use the same applications he will use? Is there a local LUG in his area? Does he (need | expect) sound? Video? Printing? I don't use sound or video (my son does, but still uses Windows), and I still do all my printing from a Windows box. Linux is getting better, but there is still a fairly steep learning curve. Hopefully, a few years from now, the learning curve will be less steep. For some people (and for the good of Linux, I think), it would be better for people who might forever after be discouraged from trying Linux if they would wait a few years. Or, let him read this, and recognize the pitfalls (I haven't gone into detail, but it gives some general idea). If he has some other reason to drive him on his Linux oddyssey (like a thorough dislike of Microsoft and its approaches or business practices), that might be enough to let him make the transition. The transition might be easier if he can start by using only Linux GUI applications, and if Linux is preinstalled by someone else, or if he has a lucky install that works the first time for him. (When I first installed Linux, I acquired a stack of CDs with Linux distros, mostly from my local LUG (no cost) (I had bought a few distros, also, including Caldera 2.2). Went through the stack -- if the installation didn't work, I set the CD aside. If installation worked I spent a few hours trying out the system. Then I went back and reinstalled Caldera 2.2 (it (with KDE 1.?) seemed easiest to use at that time). Spent a few months with that, then went to Mandrake 6.2, then 7.0, 7.2, and now one machine with a partial installation of 8.1 (a few things don't work). Can (you | someone) (explain | lead him through) setting up a dual boot system? What is his hardware? (Processor and speed, memory, hard disk size, modem (internal, external -- is it a WinModem?). (Does he plan to connect to the Internet? Dial up? Does he have more than one computer in the house that he would want to network together (and | or) share the Internet connection? For my daughter, I have set up computers (with Windows at the time) and mailed (UPS) them cross country with everything pre-setup. Is this an option? Sorry for so many questions. I am a 50 year old dad, computer enthusiast, and was usually considered a dos/Windows guru at work. I have had a lot of trouble using / learning Linux. (I have started the WikiLearn site (http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Wikilearn/AboutThesePages) to help people (myself and others) learn Linux and open source software -- maybe you or he will find that site usefule, and be interested in correcting any errors that you find, suggesting additional pages, or adding content to new or existing pages.) Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Dad hates MS!! Now what?
Well Tommy, If he's dangereous (as you said) I guess he's exactly the right person to try Linux, beside with distributions like Mandrake you dont need to be an expert to play around with Linux, and even betrer you dont have to suggest any applications, Mandrake is full of em, you just tell him which is for what ( If he couldnt guess from the names :) Dangereous guy + Mandrake + newbie@linux-mandrake URL + enough time = A linuxian in the making and maybe YOU will learn from him later on ;) Regards, = Original Message From Tommy Eaton [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Hi all, I was chatting with my dad the other night about his adventures with Windows XP. He starts out with Man, I hate Microsoft! :-D Ok, so now what? I mentioned Mandrake to him and he seems interested... However, I don't know where to point him. What applications should I suggest? And for support, should I just point him to this list? He knows just enough to be dangerous (would Interactive Bastille help with that? - you know, something to protect yourself from yourself)... Unfortunately he doesn't live local so I couldn't set it up for him (unless somehow over the net?). I'm very much a newbie to this operating system, and Linux and general. But if you have any ideas how to help the process of a 50 year old Dad interested in a Microsoft alternative, please let me know. Thanks! - Hanan AL-Shargi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dad hates MS!! Now what?
On Monday 06 May 2002 1:17 pm, Tommy Eaton wrote: Hi all, I was chatting with my dad the other night about his adventures with Windows XP. He starts out with Man, I hate Microsoft! :-D Ok, so now what? I mentioned Mandrake to him and he seems interested... However, I don't know where to point him. What applications should I suggest? And for support, should I just point him to this list? He knows just enough to be dangerous (would Interactive Bastille help with that? - you know, something to protect yourself from yourself)... Unfortunately he doesn't live local so I couldn't set it up for him (unless somehow over the net?). I'm very much a newbie to this operating system, and Linux and general. But if you have any ideas how to help the process of a 50 year old Dad interested in a Microsoft alternative, please let me know. Thanks! You might like to consider getting him on Lycoris Linux. Just 1 install CD and it installs just one application of each type. It is supposed to be easier for the total newbie who is not going to want to tinker with all the exotic stuff available in mandrake. As for configuring his system over the net, sure you can do that. Just get him to install webmin and you can log into his system and configure it. (You will need to know his IP address) derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Dad hates MS!! Now what?
Who said 50 something was old? :) -Original Message- From: ed Tharp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 9:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Dad hates MS!! Now what? my sugestion, purchase a powerpack from the mandrake store, to be delivered to his house, explain how to get the computer to boot from a CD, and point him to this list. thats about all... and don't forget, 50 ain't that old (shesh). On Monday 06 May 2002 08:17 am, you wrote: Hi all, I was chatting with my dad the other night about his adventures with Windows XP. He starts out with Man, I hate Microsoft! :-D Ok, so now what? I mentioned Mandrake to him and he seems interested... However, I don't know where to point him. What applications should I suggest? And for support, should I just point him to this list? He knows just enough to be dangerous (would Interactive Bastille help with that? - you know, something to protect yourself from yourself)... Unfortunately he doesn't live local so I couldn't set it up for him (unless somehow over the net?). I'm very much a newbie to this operating system, and Linux and general. But if you have any ideas how to help the process of a 50 year old Dad interested in a Microsoft alternative, please let me know. Thanks! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] PDF Files
On Monday 06 May 2002 02:43, Lee opened a general hailing frequency and transmitted to all open stations: I have been using WordPerfect to compose business letters, and exported to pdf when I didn't know whether or not the recipient had WordPerfect. Is there a LInux wordprocesser that will export in .pdf? Corel WP does not so I am back in the Windows box for yet another reason. actually, at least in KDE, almost all applications can create pdf. choose print, but select the printer that says print to file (pdf) -- Microsoft, Windows, Windows 98, Bugs, Lacking Features, IRQ Conflicts, System Crashes, Non-Functional Multitasking, The Y2K Problem and The Blue Screen of Death (BSOD) are registered trademarks of Microsoft Corp., Redmond, Washington, USA. shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dad hates MS!! Now what?
On Monday 06 May 2002 13:17, you wrote: Hi all, I was chatting with my dad the other night about his adventures with Windows XP. He starts out with Man, I hate Microsoft! :-D Ok, so now what? I mentioned Mandrake to him and he seems interested... However, I don't know where to point him. What applications should I suggest? And for support, should I just point him to this list? He knows just enough to be dangerous (would Interactive Bastille help with that? - you know, something to protect yourself from yourself)... Unfortunately he doesn't live local so I couldn't set it up for him (unless somehow over the net?). I'm very much a newbie to this operating system, and Linux and general. But if you have any ideas how to help the process of a 50 year old Dad interested in a Microsoft alternative, please let me know. Thanks! Well Tommy, I'm older than your dad, and I only owned a computer for the first time just over 2 years ago, and not only that, but I managed to get into linux as well, which means that , if I can do it, he can too, and I would not be supprised to learn that he became better at it than you. Tell him to start with either downloading the 3 no. ISO CD files from mandrake website,then burn them to CD,or buy the same from Mandrake store where they come in a box with some usful install advice in the form of a book, then get him to join the newbie website , and ask how to proceed. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dad hates MS!! Now what?
On Monday 06 May 2002 05:17, Tommy Eaton opened a general hailing frequency and transmitted to all open stations: Hi all, I was chatting with my dad the other night about his adventures with Windows XP. He starts out with Man, I hate Microsoft! :-D Ok, so now what? I mentioned Mandrake to him and he seems interested... However, I don't know where to point him. What applications should I suggest? And for support, should I just point him to this list? He knows just enough to be dangerous (would Interactive Bastille help with that? - you know, something to protect yourself from yourself)... Unfortunately he doesn't live local so I couldn't set it up for him (unless somehow over the net?). I'm very much a newbie to this operating system, and Linux and general. But if you have any ideas how to help the process of a 50 year old Dad interested in a Microsoft alternative, please let me know. Thanks! one thing you might try if you are not sure how he will take to linux is to simply burn a SuSE live eval CD. (the only thing SuSE is better than mandrake for) that way he can try it out without even making a dual boot. if he likes it go for the dual boot. be sure to point out that while linux is generally more stable/performs better, it can be (though not always) less friendly/harder to setup certain apps, and treat it as a try it and see and you will likely make a sale (so to speak). treat it like the second coming and he will not be impressed. just ask lucas how episode I lived up to the hype. ;-) -- Friends help you move. Real friends help you move bodies. shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] The Register: Preinstalled Windows Illegal to Remove ?
Sounds like someone has a bad case of the Mondays... -Source: Office Space -Original Message- From: Brian Parish [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 8:47 AM To: newbie Subject: RE: [newbie] The Register: Preinstalled Windows Illegal to Remove ? How about we save the pro-gun shit for the IamaHickWhoLikesToKill mail list. This list is about linux - or it was. On Mon, 2002-05-06 at 22:18, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Other states have better gun laws than this state (read: less restrictive on law abiding tax paying citizens), such as Texas, Tennessee, and a few others I can't remember. Here in Georgia, in the city I live in Kennesaw, GA there is a city ordinance that you cannot live inside the city without owning a Firearm. There is not that many home break-ins here, most of the crime we have is traffic violations in the city of Kennesaw, there are the occasional break-ins but those are of stores, not homes. Anyway I think all should be allowed to own weapons, especially for defense of your home. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] E-term problems under 8.2?
On Sunday 05 May 2002 09:49 pm, you wrote: darklord wrote: Has anyone else had problems with E-term under 8.2? I'm getting this (non-fatal) error when I start E-term: bash: TMOUT: readonly variable [darklord@darkforce darklord]$ I looked at .bash_profile, .bashrc, and .bash_history in my /home director but saw nothing that pointed to this... I addressed the expert list on one problem: namely I can't save my settings using the Save Button. :( But no bombing sorry. Hi Femme! Well, its not a total bomb. I can go ahead and use Eterm, it just does that little annoying thingy. It did not do this from 7.0 - v8.1... Thanks though! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] The Register: Preinstalled Windows Illegal to Remove ?
On Monday 06 May 2002 09:07 am, you wrote: On 6 May 2002, Brian Parish wrote: How about we save the pro-gun shit for the IamaHickWhoLikesToKill mail list. This list is about linux - or it was. wow! someone isn't very happy this morning .hope your day gets better as it goes along Brian. Really. I own a gun... I've never killed anyone with it yet... ;-) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Very bad review of Mandrake 8.2 boxed set
Although it's written in the characteristic The Register style (halfway between a magazine and a weblog ... not much of a filter between the journalist and bytes on screen), there are pretty obviously correct points being made here: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/25160.html Alastair -- Alastair Scott (London, United Kingdom) http://www.unmetered.org.uk/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] gkrellm volume plugin make error
I'm using gkrellm's plugins from: [quini@quinipt quini]$ rpm -qa|grep gkrellm gkrellm-themes-0.2-1mdk gkrellm-1.2.8-2mdk gkrellm-plugins-1.2.8-1mdk [quini@quinipt quini]$ And sound plugin is working for me... hope that helps ;) Es Dilluns 06 Maig 2002 02:18, en Todd Slater va escriure: I'm trying to get the volume plugin for gkrellm, but get this error when I run make: In file included from volume.c:26: volume.h:20:30: gkrellm/gkrellm.h: No such file or directory make: *** [volume.o] Error 1 The readme said to make sure to have installed the gkrellm header files in /usr/include/gkrellm or /usr/local/include/gkrellm. I assume this is my problem, but I can't find gkrellm.h anywhere on my system. Hints? -- Joan Tur. Ibiza - Spain AOL quini2k ICQ 11407395 www.ClubIbosim.org Linux: usuari registrat 190.783 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] The Register: Preinstalled Windows Illegal to Remove ?
On Mon, 2002-05-06 at 23:48, darklord wrote: Really. I own a gun... I've never killed anyone with it yet... ;-) Look, I know that the attitude to guns is a little different in the USA and I make no comment as to whether that's right, wrong, or whatever. I just can't understand why it's being discussed on this list. This thread seems to go on forever and it's left the software track a long time ago. I guess being forced to own a weapon to live in a certain town just made me so incredulous that...well I'm just blown away that any society could think that was normal or OK. But who knows - I'm probably the crazy one. My Monday was fine BTW - and it's Tuesday already here, so no more from me for a few hours. So to all you armed and dangerous linux heads out there, be REAL careful! OK? Brian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] The Register: Preinstalled Windows Illegal to Remove ?
On Monday 06 May 2002 08:35, Brian Parish opened a general hailing frequency and transmitted to all open stations: I guess being forced to own a weapon to live in a certain town just made me so incredulous that...well I'm just blown away that any society could think that was normal or OK. But who knows - I'm probably the crazy one. i feel the same way about windows, why am i forced to own it? still, in my old home state 99.9% of all sex acts were illegal. between consenting adults mind you. if the price to a private bedroom (or wherever) and an MS free machine is to own a gun i'll buy 2. ;) -- We are Linux. Resistance is measured in Ohms. shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Very bad review of Mandrake 8.2 boxed set
On Monday 06 May 2002 07:21, Alastair Scott opened a general hailing frequency and transmitted to all open stations: Although it's written in the characteristic The Register style (halfway between a magazine and a weblog ... not much of a filter between the journalist and bytes on screen), there are pretty obviously correct points being made here: um, maybe i am just lucky enough to not have his bad luck, but what points are correct? i had none of the trouble he describes. what did i do wrong? (right?) -- I believe OS/2 is destined to be the most important operating system of all time. -Bill Gates shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] The Register: Preinstalled Windows Illegal to Remove ?
On Sun, 2002-05-05 at 12:54, Kaj Haulrich wrote: Oh, come on Richard ! - On my screen I see no foam at all. Lyvim was merely answering a naive question concerning the fact that I'm now a criminal, because I eradicated windows from my laptop. Furthermore, it seems that I'm a communist, because I use free software. I wonder if that holds for my children as well ? If THAT isn't crap, I don't know what crap is. Lyvim was kind enough to inform me that not all americans cave in to the evil empire. To quote my question : What happened to the land of the free ? We europeans (well, most of us) have great admiration for the United States of America. Mostly because you kicked the oppressors out, wrote a brand new Constitution - and took it seriously ! What you describe here makes me doubt : is USA becoming Europized ? Reverting to feudalism, pseudo-democracy, corruption, fraud and mob-rule ? If so, where can we find hope ? I still don't know. But I know that at least some americans stand up : judge Pennfield Jackson is still in office (as far as I know). Nader is still at large and Linus Skywalker, eh Thorvalds isn't knighted by emperor Bill yet. Lyvim can criticize his country's legislative system and Todd can even criticize its founding fathers. You can like their opinions or dislike them. But they have freedom of speech - and use it. Without risking incarceration. That's why I envy americans. And linux is about freedom. I don't think that's irrelevant here on this list. May the Force be with us ! Kaj Haulrich Denmark Kaj, I had an idea in the beginning that adopting a broad view of the M$ and legislative situation for your question would not be wasted. I can see now that the investment could not have been put in a better direction. :) Thanks, LX -- °°° Kernel 2.4.8-26mdk Mandrake Linux 8.1 Enlightenment 0.16.5Evolution 1.02 Registered Linux User #268899 http://counter.li.org/ °°° Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] PDF Files
Shane, You've done it again. The font appears different than the kword doc, but fonts seem be a perennial issue hereabouts. Guess I pick one that looks good in the final pdf doc and go. Thanks Lee On Monday 06 May 2002 09:28 am, shane wrote: On Monday 06 May 2002 02:43, Lee opened a general hailing frequency and transmitted to all open stations: I have been using WordPerfect to compose business letters, and exported to pdf when I didn't know whether or not the recipient had WordPerfect. Is there a LInux wordprocesser that will export in .pdf? Corel WP does not so I am back in the Windows box for yet another reason. actually, at least in KDE, almost all applications can create pdf. choose print, but select the printer that says print to file (pdf) -- Registered Linux abuser #223705 The best indication that there is intelligent life elsewhere is that they haven't contacted us. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Very bad review of Mandrake 8.2 boxed set
In reply to shane's mail, d.d. Mon, 6 May 2002 08:52:56 -0700: um, maybe i am just lucky enough to not have his bad luck, but what points are correct? i had none of the trouble he describes. what did i do wrong? (right?) I read the review too. I think he had a flakey config to start with. Paul -- It is better to ask some of the questions than to know all the answers. -James Thurber http://nlpagan.net - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 8.2 - Sylpheed 0.7.5 Help Microsoft combat software piracy: give Linux to a friend today! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Very bad review of Mandrake 8.2 boxed set
He only used the f word once. He really liked it. Lee On Monday 06 May 2002 10:21 am, Alastair Scott wrote: Although it's written in the characteristic The Register style (halfway between a magazine and a weblog ... not much of a filter between the journalist and bytes on screen), there are pretty obviously correct points being made here: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/25160.html Alastair -- Registered Linux abuser #223705 The best indication that there is intelligent life elsewhere is that they haven't contacted us. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] PDF Files
On Monday 06 May 2002 09:32, Lee opened a general hailing frequency and transmitted to all open stations: Shane, You've done it again. The font appears different than the kword doc, but fonts seem be a perennial issue hereabouts. Guess I pick one that looks good in the final pdf doc and go. don't thank me, thank whomever told the guy who told told me! :-) fonts are indeed the trouble. used to be fonts, office, and games. games are about done, in some ways better. office is closing fast. now about those fonts... -- Microsoft: The company that made web browsing dangerous. shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Very bad review of Mandrake 8.2 boxed set
On Monday 06 May 2002 5:23 pm, Paul wrote: In reply to shane's mail, d.d. Mon, 6 May 2002 08:52:56 -0700: um, maybe i am just lucky enough to not have his bad luck, but what points are correct? i had none of the trouble he describes. what did i do wrong? (right?) I read the review too. I think he had a flakey config to start with. Indeed, but the points about the firewall (it _isn't_ clear when it's working and, once I've learnt more, I may try to write a Kicker application to show basic information, including when and if packets are being rejected) and nVidia cards (posts here anon, plus my personal experience with another machine) are right ... Also, problems with StarOffice/OpenOffice fonts, although not MandrakeSoft's fault, are becoming staple fare for the [openoffice] discussion lists :/ Alastair PS What is (supposedly) missing from KDE in the boxed set? -- Alastair Scott (London, United Kingdom) http://www.unmetered.org.uk/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Stocks
For free chart services, try http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/ http://fast.quote.com/fq/briefing/group?mode=IwatchMenu1group=IndustryWatch/indexid=page=IwatchMenu1 http://stockcharts.com/index.html (this one will do Point Figure for you) For portfolio tracking there are numerous free services, such as Yahoo or http://cbs.marketwatch.com/news/default.asp?siteid=mktw hth, Mike John Richard Smith wrote: Well Marcia, I sympathize with you. I haven't found any good way of doing it so far, and amongst one such problem for instance is the lack of Point and figure charts, an absolute elementary basic form of financial charting. Those graph programmes that do exist are centered around the kind of windows -- - Mike Larson Registered Linux User # 246593 http://counter.li.org/ Linux Mandrake 8.2 Mozilla 0.9.8 If Bill Gates had a nickel for everytime Windows crashed..oh wait,he does! - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Converting Mozilla Bookmarks
Hi everyone, I have used Mozilla quite extensively in WinXP (I know, I know - I gotta play my games SOMEWHERE) and I have a TON of bookmarks in it. However, I just reinstalled 8.2 and KDE3 so I have no bookmarks in Linux. I was wondering if and how I could import my WinXP Mozilla bookmarks to Linux Mozilla and/or Konqueror. Thanks in advance! Brian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Very bad review of Mandrake 8.2 boxed set
SNIP Also, problems with StarOffice/OpenOffice fonts, although not MandrakeSoft's fault, are becoming staple fare for the [openoffice] discussion lists :/ Alastair PS What is (supposedly) missing from KDE in the boxed set? The version of OpenOffice supplied with 8.2 has its startup script tweaked by Mandrake to include the fonts imported by Drakfont. I am not sure if the same is true of the StarOffice supplied in the Pro-pack, and it is certainly not true for anyone who has downloaded OpenOffice 1.0 from openoffice.org. Here is the relevent stanza from /usr/bin/ooffice # Expand TrueType and Type1 font paths chkfontpath=/usr/sbin/chkfontpath if [ -x $chkfontpath ]; then fontpath=$($chkfontpath | perl -ne '/[0-9]+: (.*)/ and print $1;') else ttf_fontpath=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF;/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/drakfont/ttf for fontdir in /usr/share/fonts/ttf/*; do ttf_fontpath=$ttf_fontpath;$fontdir done type1_fontpath=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1;/usr/share/fonts/default/Type1 fontpath=$ttf_fontpath;$type1_fontpath fi SAL_FONTPATH_USER=$fontpath;$SAL_FONTPATH_USER derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Installing KDE 3
I followed the instructions on installing KDE 3 from the Mandrake website, but when I do the urpmi *, I get all of these errors about qt3 devel files conflicting with the qt2 devel files. How do I get around this? is is alright to have it install without checking dependencies? Thanks, Fred Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] OT over reacting
On Mon, 6 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well it actually came on the installation CD's, then again since I am new to linux that may not be what I am looking for and could explain why it doesn't work. When I did my install (clean). I choose expert mode and selected the option to install individual packages and one of them was wine. Which told me it was for emulating windows. figure this might be helpful to me as a beginner so I installed it and the man page for it. I have looked on http://winehq.com and they have a download section for the binaries and source. from what some people have said they might be on http://www.rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/ Sorry I can't be of more help, with locating the packages, but I would still appreciate the tips :) Thanks Mike Ok Mike...ya talked me into it. to get you started you may want to take a look at Codeweavers wine. that seems to be the best one to start with if you're very new to using wine. you can get a copy of Codeweavers wine at this address. Let me know how you make out. feel free to email me off list ifso desire. http://www.codeweavers.com/ -- daRcmaTTeR -- Registered Linux User 182496 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Converting Mozilla Bookmarks
On Mon, 6 May 2002, Brian Koppe wrote: Hi everyone, I have used Mozilla quite extensively in WinXP (I know, I know - I gotta play my games SOMEWHERE) and I have a TON of bookmarks in it. However, I just reinstalled 8.2 and KDE3 so I have no bookmarks in Linux. I was wondering if and how I could import my WinXP Mozilla bookmarks to Linux Mozilla and/or Konqueror. Thanks in advance! Brian Hi Brian, sure can. copy away. -- daRcmaTTeR -- Registered Linux User 182496 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] gkrellm volume plugin make error
Todd Slater wrote: I'm trying to get the volume plugin for gkrellm, but get this error when I run make: In file included from volume.c:26: volume.h:20:30: gkrellm/gkrellm.h: No such file or directory make: *** [volume.o] Error 1 The readme said to make sure to have installed the gkrellm header files in /usr/include/gkrellm or /usr/local/include/gkrellm. I assume this is my problem, but I can't find gkrellm.h anywhere on my system. Not if you don't install it, you won't. Install gkrellm-devel from your cds. ;-) Guy. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT over reacting
On Monday 06 May 2002 02:24 pm, you wrote: Ok Mike...ya talked me into it. to get you started you may want to take a look at Codeweavers wine. that seems to be the best one to start with if you're very new to using wine. you can get a copy of Codeweavers wine at this address. Let me know how you make out. feel free to email me off list ifso desire. http://www.codeweavers.com/ Again, there is a Codeweavers version that you can install straight from the Mandrake 8.2 CD's...thats what I did. -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Installing as Newbie
Short and simpel If I have 3 users that use the computer How can I make * one install of some program (lets say Star (open)Office because that what i tried to do ) * Where I should install it ? What locations * How I can make the programs appear in menu and for all 3 users * Should I do all that as root (or as newbie :=)? * Is there anything else particular that I should Keep in mind ? Thanks for advise Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] problem remembering program states?
For some reason, I have begun having a problem on most of my programs where they will not remember the last state. For example, Galeon repeatedly asks for confirmation regarding information sending of unencrypted data, and will only remember my answer for the current session. Xchat opens very small and won't remember preferences across sessions. What's going on? My drive is not full, and I haven't made any major system changes. - Paul Rodriguez New York Linux Scene www.NYLXS.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Keeping Private and Simpel
Some more I want to make the life easier and still have some privacy We have 3 users (me, my wife and my mom) I use computer for a lot of several purposes, the rest use for internet and e-mail Can I do so that the computer automatically logs in as one user, but still can keep the private things private and have some authentication before opening mailbox (The rest is not so private). I also might want to hide some catalogs from the others, but thats not so important. user 1 - 4 mail accounts user 2 - 2 mail accounts user 3 - 1 mail account I use currently Evolution as I found it can handle several email accounts in a very nice way . And I also used to use the tasks and calendar in one place... (Outlook style) Today we handle the case with 3 logon names... that is very complicated (in out all the time) Any hints... maybe another program.. or some other ways to handle that ? Thanks for advise Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing as Newbie
On 06 May 2002 23:17:26 +0200 Klemm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Short and simpel If I have 3 users that use the computer How can I make * one install of some program (lets say Star (open)Office because that what i tried to do ) * Where I should install it ? What locations * How I can make the programs appear in menu and for all 3 users * Should I do all that as root (or as newbie :=)? * Is there anything else particular that I should Keep in mind ? Thanks for advise For a multi-user installation of Star/Open Office, you have to start the setup application with the /net parameter, like this: ./setup /net then, install it wherever you want ( preferably somewhere inside /usr or something, let's assume you install it inside /usr/local/office ) then inside /usr/local/office you will find a setup binary. log in as each user and run it. from it you make the local installation for each user, ( creates personal configuration files and such, installed on their home directory, takes up a couple of MB's for each user. ) menu configs are independent. if you want to add entries to all three of them, it's done indivivually ( use menudrake to do it ) you will have to be root to install your office app, however to make the personal setting for the users you have to log them in... and, of course, this is the same for the menu settings. anything else... uhm.. well at least for me, OpenOffice 1.0 worked MUCH better than StarOffice 6... so that's what i would recommend. good luck. Damian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] BBC Streaming OGG - FYI
On Wednesday 24 April 2002 10:31 am, Sevatio offered this for consideration: Here's an email I received from the BBC: We've managed to get another encoder up and running, so you can get your daily fix of teeny boppy all-sound-the-same tunes coming from Radio 1 in sparkly ogg format at http://support.bbc.co.uk/cgi-bin/oggurl/radio1_high.ogg.m3u http://support.bbc.co.uk/cgi-bin/oggurl/radio1_low.ogg.m3u but for the people with taste, we've kept the 6music stream running at http://support.bbc.co.uk/cgi-bin/oggurl/6music.ogg.m3u and will hopefully get a 64kbit stream of that running sometime today. Have fun :-) ~~ Thanks again (late I know, but.) for the links. The 6music link is invalid (at least from here) unless you modify it. This link: http://support.bbc.co.uk/cgi-bin/oggurl/6music_high.ogg.m3u works though. Doesn't seem to be as high priority as the other channel since the avg. bit rate for me is around 120 kbits/sec. Acceptable though for listening. -- Charlie in Edmonton, AB, Canada Mandrake 8.2 user 244963 at http://counter.li.org 2:49pm up 3 days, 18:15, 2 users, load average: 0.17, 0.23, 0.21 If you do your best the rest of the way, that takes care of everything. When we get to October 2, we'll add up the wins, and then we'll either all go into the playoffs, or we'll all go home and play golf. Both those things sound pretty good to me. -- Sparky Anderson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Very bad review of Mandrake 8.2 boxed set
On Monday 06 May 2002 12:50 pm, you wrote: On Monday 06 May 2002 11:51, Anne Wilson opened a general hailing frequency and transmitted to all open stations: I have often wondered why people hold The Register in such regard. because the other choices are what... zdnet? cnet? when the compitition sucks, being one of the best is easy. thank goodness there are other linux distros, or who would mandrake compete against for quality? ms? ;) I am a linux fan/advocate etc. Let us not kid ourselves. The competition is in Redmond. The world belongs to linux but linux shoots itself in the leg. There is no point denying that. Linux will get there eventually, but it will get there faster if it stops shooting itself. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Compatible Video Cards
I don't think you can get more bang for the buck from a local builder. They have to pay WAY,WAY more for their parts than Dell so to be competitive they always half to make concessions on the quality of components. (Did you know there is a huge market out there on manufactured seconds?) If you aren't familiar with components, you won't know. When you add in the warranty and 24/7 support, the bottom line price comparison is not even close. It's the sad truth because I would rather support a small business owner ... I build and support my own. It costs me more than buying from dell and thats with me bringing my OS software from my last machine. What I get for my money is more choice/control. Hi all, Work has decided to buy me a new desktop box. They're pushing a Dell OptiPlex GX240 w/Pentium 4 1.7 ghz, etc., etc. I may try to talk them into a custom box from Monarch or Micronux where I think I can get a little more linux bang for the buck.. but my question relates to the Dell graphics card...an ATI Rage Ultra 128...If memory serves this is fairly common card, been around a while... Anybody got it running under 8.2? Any problems? TIA. Terry Smith Cape Cod USA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 2 distributions on 1 computer?????
On 06 May 2002 08:48, skinky wrote: I just installed redhat and had lilo/boot problems also. You only need the one swap partition. I have a separate /boot partition which I share between the distros - be sure NOT to format the /boot partition if you have the same setup. During the redhat install I chose not to install a boot loader - thought I would rather keep Mandrake's lilo going. When the rh installation finished I rebooted with the boot floppy (made during installation) and all seemed OK. I rebooted from the hard drive to Mandrake (with Mandrake's lilo) and edited lilo.conf to include the rh partition. However upon running lilo (# /sbin/lilo) I got an error about an older version. So I rebooted with the rh boot floppy, uninstalled lilo (rh had automatically installed lilo but /etc/lilo.conf did not exist), then reinstalled lilo. I edited the lilo.conf to include Mandrake and ran # /sbin/lilo. All is well but I don't like rh's boot loader (its ugly). From what Civileme said I think you need to install rh first then install Mandrake to use Mandrake's lilo. I might reinstall Mandrake later in the week - I'm getting faster at setting up apache, samba and twiki and upgrading all packages ; ). Ooops! Just found out that all I had to do in Mandrake was uninstall lilo (with --nodeps) and reinstall it! Piece of peewees... skinky -- oxymoron: Microsoft Works Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dad hates MS!! Now what?
Tommy Eaton wrote: Hi all, I was chatting with my dad the other night about his adventures with Windows XP. He starts out with Man, I hate Microsoft! :-D Ok, so now what? I mentioned Mandrake to him and he seems interested... However, I don't know where to point him. What applications should I suggest? And for support, should I just point him to this list? He knows just enough to be dangerous (would Interactive Bastille help with that? - you know, something to protect yourself from yourself)... Unfortunately he doesn't live local so I couldn't set it up for him (unless somehow over the net?). I'm very much a newbie to this operating system, and Linux and general. But if you have any ideas how to help the process of a 50 year old Dad interested in a Microsoft alternative, please let me know. Thanks! Have him get the 8.2 PowerPack or if he can download, get the download edition and join Mandrake Club at Tier 2 or higher. Also, he can join mandrakeonline to get answers to questions from mandrakeexpert as well as here. Apps, well Open Office is a reasonable alternative for spreadsheets and Word processing and presentations. LyX can run circles around Miscosoft Publisher but does have a significant learning curve. Quanta+ is reasonably easy to use and standards compliant for making web pages. Xine will play DVDs and will work better if he chooses to become an outlaw and download forbidden software to play the encrypted ones. Xmms is unmatched with all its plugins for the music fans, except the linux kernel could be better designed to handle sound. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] The Register: Preinstalled Windows Illegal to Remove ?
Tommy Eaton wrote: Sounds like someone has a bad case of the Mondays... -Source: Office Space -Original Message- From: Brian Parish [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 8:47 AM To: newbie Subject: RE: [newbie] The Register: Preinstalled Windows Illegal to Remove ? How about we save the pro-gun shit for the IamaHickWhoLikesToKill mail list. This list is about linux - or it was. Ummm, actually you don't have to hunt that far for a maillist for this purpose. Fire up Google and find Geeks with Guns The leader is Eric S. Raymond, last I looked. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Follow-up question about bookmarks...
First off, thank you for the help copying my Mozilla bookmarks - I didn't realize it was so easy. Two other things: 1) How do I import my Mozilla bookmarks in Konqueror and 2) I have a friend who use(d) IE and I just got him to try Linux - how would he import the IE bookmarks into either Mozilla or Konqueror? Thanks! Brian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Very bad review of Mandrake 8.2 boxed set
Alastair Scott wrote: On Monday 06 May 2002 5:23 pm, Paul wrote: In reply to shane's mail, d.d. Mon, 6 May 2002 08:52:56 -0700: um, maybe i am just lucky enough to not have his bad luck, but what points are correct? i had none of the trouble he describes. what did i do wrong? (right?) I read the review too. I think he had a flakey config to start with. Indeed, but the points about the firewall (it _isn't_ clear when it's working and, once I've learnt more, I may try to write a Kicker application to show basic information, including when and if packets are being rejected) and nVidia cards (posts here anon, plus my personal experience with another machine) are right ... Also, problems with StarOffice/OpenOffice fonts, although not MandrakeSoft's fault, are becoming staple fare for the [openoffice] discussion lists :/ Alastair PS What is (supposedly) missing from KDE in the boxed set? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Well, NVidia chooses to make their 3D driver a binary-only. On commercial distros this may be included/distributed, but we don't know from his article which he tried to install. Anyway, a few days after the masters were sent for pressing, NVidia announced some new drivers and those worked a lot better with kernel 2.4.18+. KDE has only one thing missing, AFAIK, which is the loading of libraries that are extremely dangerous to a number of models of IBM laptops. Again, AFAIK, Mandrake is the only one to omit them, but the dead laptops are no less real for the others distros refusal to acknowledge the problem. Certain other KDE apps, that would destroy integrated desktop menus or are simply unnecessary with Mandrake Control Center, are hidden menu items. Now on firewall, nothing is set up until you use Interactive Bastille. Tiny Firewall was causing more problems than it was solving and was pulled for overhaul. Basically, the network settings assumed a single machine and cut off all local services, which was noticeable to anyone trying to print on another local machine or trying to use NFS. So the real problem here is that the doc is out of sync with the situation. Civileme And if you care to cc this to anyone, feel free. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Keeping Private and Simpel
On Tuesday 07 May 2002 9:40 am, Klemm wrote: Some more I want to make the life easier and still have some privacy We have 3 users (me, my wife and my mom) I use computer for a lot of several purposes, the rest use for internet and e-mail Can I do so that the computer automatically logs in as one user, but still can keep the private things private and have some authentication before opening mailbox (The rest is not so private). I also might want to hide some catalogs from the others, but thats not so important. The normal way of installing allows you to have this as standard. During the install you set up an account for each user. Each gets their own directory (ex windows users read folder) which cannot by read into by the others. Only root (the super-user) can have access to all files irrespective of where they are in the structure. It sounds like you chose options which disabled this during your install. Perhaps you should look at installing again. The decision point which covers this during the install is Set root password. Do not click on the no password button (this button is evil and applies only to those that wish others to trash there computer). The next step, Add a user is where you put in each persons name and a password for each. Set up a user account for your own use here as well as your wife and mum. Thus your private photo collection and/or correspondence with your girlfriend is safe from wife and mother ;-) user 1 - 4 mail accounts user 2 - 2 mail accounts user 3 - 1 mail account I use currently Evolution as I found it can handle several email accounts in a very nice way . And I also used to use the tasks and calendar in one place... (Outlook style) Evolution is on your disks. You can change profiles i believe. Today we handle the case with 3 logon names... that is very complicated (in out all the time) Any hints... maybe another program.. or some other ways to handle that ? Thanks for advise -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Early distro on older PC (was 2 distributions on 1 computer?????)
On Tuesday 07 May 2002 9:15 am, skinky wrote: On 06 May 2002 22:57, Michael Adams wrote: While I'm here, can anyone tell me if Mandrake 7.2 runs on the older pcs and if it is much different to 8.0/8.1? skinky I have 7.1 running on a p1 circa 95-96 second PC and it is graphically very different. Mandrake won't run on a 486 or 386 as it is compiled for pentiums. I beleive there is a 486 distro downloadable (from memory). Thanks for the info, much appreciated. Will see what I can find in the 'net. skinky There was a thread on that 486 distro either last year or very eary this year try the newbie-archives. Alternatively, redhat is compiled AFAIK to run on 386 or better. Michael ducks for cover after suggesting altenative distro -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Follow-up question about bookmarks...
I had a problem getting my Netscape bookmarks into Konqueror last week. If you place your Netscape bookmarks, bookmarks.html not bookmarks.htm, into the ./mozilla directory. Then from Konqueror's menu bar, select Bookmarks Edit Bookmarks... This brings up a popup File Import Mozilla Bookmarks You'd think Import Netscape Bookmarks would be the correct option but mine was greyed out and I was told that the bookmarks are pretty much the same in both Mozilla and Netscape. The above worked well for me. Jeanie -Original Message- From: Brian Koppe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 2:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Follow-up question about bookmarks... First off, thank you for the help copying my Mozilla bookmarks - I didn't realize it was so easy. Two other things: 1) How do I import my Mozilla bookmarks in Konqueror and 2) I have a friend who use(d) IE and I just got him to try Linux - how would he import the IE bookmarks into either Mozilla or Konqueror? Thanks! Brian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dad hates MS!! Now what?
On Tuesday 07 May 2002 1:05 am, ed Tharp wrote: my sugestion, purchase a powerpack from the mandrake store, to be delivered to his house, explain how to get the computer to boot from a CD, and point him to this list. thats about all... and don't forget, 50 ain't that old (shesh). On Monday 06 May 2002 08:17 am, you wrote: Hi all, I was chatting with my dad the other night about his adventures with Windows XP. He starts out with Man, I hate Microsoft! :-D Ok, so now what? I mentioned Mandrake to him and he seems interested... However, I don't know where to point him. What applications should I suggest? And for support, should I just point him to this list? He knows just enough to be dangerous (would Interactive Bastille help with that? - you know, something to protect yourself from yourself)... Unfortunately he doesn't live local so I couldn't set it up for him (unless somehow over the net?). I'm very much a newbie to this operating system, and Linux and general. But if you have any ideas how to help the process of a 50 year old Dad interested in a Microsoft alternative, please let me know. Thanks! I have read all the offers of hints. Are you confused yet? Check out this website http://www.ssc.com:8080/glue/ If dad is close to a LUG (Linux user group) point him at it. Then let him go for it. Buying him the package, or burning the CD's for him was the other good idea. After all, Mandrake is the distro you want him to have ;-) -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] The Register: Preinstalled Windows Illegal to Remove ?
On Tue, 2002-05-07 at 01:49, shane wrote: On Monday 06 May 2002 08:35, Brian Parish opened a general hailing frequency and transmitted to all open stations: I guess being forced to own a weapon to live in a certain town just made me so incredulous that...well I'm just blown away that any society could think that was normal or OK. But who knows - I'm probably the crazy one. i feel the same way about windows, why am i forced to own it? still, in my old home state 99.9% of all sex acts were illegal. between consenting adults mind you. if the price to a private bedroom (or wherever) and an MS free machine is to own a gun i'll buy 2. ;) -- We are Linux. Resistance is measured in Ohms. shane Shane, As long as you reserve one of them for use on Bill Gates, who could argue? ;-) I must say I don't follow the logic of guns buying freedom of sexual expression - not the way I do it my bedroom anyway. :-) Brian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] gkrellm volume plugin make error
On Mon, 06 May 2002 22:02:17 +0200 Guy Zelck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Todd Slater wrote: I'm trying to get the volume plugin for gkrellm, but get this error when I run make: In file included from volume.c:26: volume.h:20:30: gkrellm/gkrellm.h: No such file or directory make: *** [volume.o] Error 1 The readme said to make sure to have installed the gkrellm header files in/usr/include/gkrellm or /usr/local/include/gkrellm. I assume this is my problem, but I can't find gkrellm.h anywhere on my system. Not if you don't install it, you won't. Install gkrellm-devel from your cds. ;-) Guy. Doh! Thanks, Guy! -- Todd Slater 6:37pm up 22:49, 2 users, load average: 0.97, 0.46, 0.31 2.4.8-26mdk We are students of words; we are shut up in schools, and colleges, and recitation rooms, for ten or fifteen years, and come out at last with a bag of wind, a memory of words, and do not know a thing. (Ralph Waldo Emerson) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Early distro on older PC (was 2 distributions on 1 computer?????)
On 06 May 2002 22:57, Michael Adams wrote: While I'm here, can anyone tell me if Mandrake 7.2 runs on the older pcs and if it is much different to 8.0/8.1? skinky I have 7.1 running on a p1 circa 95-96 second PC and it is graphically very different. Mandrake won't run on a 486 or 386 as it is compiled for pentiums. I beleive there is a 486 distro downloadable (from memory). Thanks for the info, much appreciated. Will see what I can find in the 'net. skinky -- oxymoron: Microsoft Works Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Follow-up question about bookmarks...
Thank you so much, that really helped :-D Now, does anyone know how to import IE bookmarks? Thanks Brian Schwenk, Jeanie wrote: I had a problem getting my Netscape bookmarks into Konqueror last week. If you place your Netscape bookmarks, bookmarks.html not bookmarks.htm, into the ./mozilla directory. Then from Konqueror's menu bar, select Bookmarks Edit Bookmarks... This brings up a popup File Import Mozilla Bookmarks You'd think Import Netscape Bookmarks would be the correct option but mine was greyed out and I was told that the bookmarks are pretty much the same in both Mozilla and Netscape. The above worked well for me. Jeanie -Original Message- From: Brian Koppe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 2:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Follow-up question about bookmarks... First off, thank you for the help copying my Mozilla bookmarks - I didn't realize it was so easy. Two other things: 1) How do I import my Mozilla bookmarks in Konqueror and 2) I have a friend who use(d) IE and I just got him to try Linux - how would he import the IE bookmarks into either Mozilla or Konqueror? Thanks! Brian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] The Register: Preinstalled Windows Illegal to Remove ?
5/6/02 5:29:49 PM, Brian Parish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2002-05-07 at 01:49, shane wrote: On Monday 06 May 2002 08:35, Brian Parish opened a general hailing frequency and transmitted to all open stations: I guess being forced to own a weapon to live in a certain town just made me so incredulous that...well I'm just blown away that any society could think that was normal or OK. But who knows - I'm probably the crazy one. A interisting point to ponder is that from what I have heard the crime rate in Kenasaw Georga before passing that local ordance was extremely high compared to the rest of the state of georgia but after that law was in place for 3 months the crime rate had droped to way below average for the state. Has getting rid of most of the firearms in a lot of the UK had that kind of positive effect? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] The Register: Preinstalled Windows Illegal to Remove ?
Brian Parish wrote: How about we save the pro-gun shit for the IamaHickWhoLikesToKill mail list. This list is about linux - or it was. So agree Brian. :) I'm all for freedom of speech but the politicizing on this issue can go on forever. Quit now while you're all behind. :) -- Femme Good Decisions You boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re: WineX was: OT over reacting
darklord wrote: Don't feel bad Miark! I routinely play 3 (2 comps and myself) vs 5 comps (top vs bottom) in Starcraft: Broodwars and win...and yet, when I play humans I usually lose... I think its because ultimately, the comps, no matter how good the AI, are predictable after a fashion. Humans (to their credit!) can't be predicted with serious accuracy... Oh well... ;-) So now that we've all established we suck, *Myself included* why dont' we find an IRC server to chat on Setup games? I usually use irc.enterthegame.com for my gaming goodness in #wfa channel. :) Let me know pvtly if you wish. And fwiw, I always lose at games against humans so we're all in good company. -- Femme Good Decisions You boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Converting Mozilla Bookmarks
Charlie wrote: Brian; doesn't Mozilla for Windows save/export the bookmarks as an html file? It also (should) actually save the bookmarks as a file called (surprise!) bookmarks.html. If so; and if you can read the NTFS, you should be able to just copy the file to the MDK installation of Mozilla. You'll have to use: viewshow hidden files, then open .mozilladefaulta number that corresponds to your installationbookmarks.html. That file can be overwritten by drag and dropclick 'copy here.' This directory is also where the Mozilla mail client stores the address book. (abook.mab) HTH -- Charlie in Edmonton, AB, Canada Just do an Export bookmarks To a floppy boot linux, in mozilla do a IMport bookmarks Point to the floppy drive. Done deal. Worked for me fine. And its less complex ;) -- Femme Good Decisions You boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] i586 v i686
I'm looking to download some Texstar RPM's but I don't know the difference between i586 and i686. Can anyone help? Thanks in advance. Brian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] i586 v i686
On Monday 06 May 2002 08:08 pm, you wrote: I'm looking to download some Texstar RPM's but I don't know the difference between i586 and i686. Can anyone help? Thanks in advance. Brian If you have a Pentium II or higher then get the i686 one. If not then get the i586 one. -- Where'd you get your CPU, a box of Crackerjacks!? -Wierd Al Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Converting Mozilla Bookmarks
On Monday 06 May 2002 05:53 pm, FemmeFatale offered this for consideration: Just do an Export bookmarks To a floppy boot linux, in mozilla do a IMport bookmarks Point to the floppy drive. Done deal. Worked for me fine. And its less complex ;) ~~ Hey neighbour. ;-) I thought knowing where the browser hides it's secrets would be a good idea. Besides, what's complicated about drag and drop? (jk!!) Export (neither for bookmarks or address book) in Mozilla 1.0 RC1 doesn't work for me (nor did import) so I explained where the files should be hiding for anyone else that had the same trouble. Mine are parked on a floppy (as well as in backups on '/archive') via the drag and dropcopy here method. Suspenders and belt, ya know? -- Charlie in Edmonton, AB, Canada Mandrake 8.2 user 244963 at http://counter.li.org 6:11pm up 2:41, 2 users, load average: 0.05, 0.11, 0.08 The way some people find fault, you'd think there was some kind of reward. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] i586 v i686
Well, I have an Athlon T-Bird - am I correct in assuming that means to equeate it to over a PII? Also, what if there is only one option i.e. it comes in i586 but not i686 - will the i586 work for me? Thanks a lot! :) Brian Kirtis B wrote: On Monday 06 May 2002 08:08 pm, you wrote: I'm looking to download some Texstar RPM's but I don't know the difference between i586 and i686. Can anyone help? Thanks in advance. Brian If you have a Pentium II or higher then get the i686 one. If not then get the i586 one. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] The Register: Preinstalled Windows Illegal to Remove?
On 7 May 2002, Brian Parish wrote: On Tue, 2002-05-07 at 01:49, shane wrote: On Monday 06 May 2002 08:35, Brian Parish opened a general hailing frequency and transmitted to all open stations: I guess being forced to own a weapon to live in a certain town just made me so incredulous that...well I'm just blown away that any society could think that was normal or OK. But who knows - I'm probably the crazy one. i feel the same way about windows, why am i forced to own it? still, in my old home state 99.9% of all sex acts were illegal. between consenting adults mind you. if the price to a private bedroom (or wherever) and an MS free machine is to own a gun i'll buy 2. ;) -- We are Linux. Resistance is measured in Ohms. shane Shane, As long as you reserve one of them for use on Bill Gates, who could argue? ;-) I must say I don't follow the logic of guns buying freedom of sexual expression - not the way I do it my bedroom anyway. :-) Brian Brian, Thats a terrible thing to say. even for Billy-bob. sure the guy is evil but geeZ. That's rather harsh. Maybe the poor bugger simply doesn't know any different. poor dumb bugger. -- daRcmaTTeR -- Registered Linux User 182496 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] i586 v i686
On Monday 06 May 2002 08:19 pm, you wrote: Well, I have an Athlon T-Bird - am I correct in assuming that means to equeate it to over a PII? Also, what if there is only one option i.e. it comes in i586 but not i686 - will the i586 work for me? Thanks a lot! Yes, and yes. That's why there are lots of packages that end in i386... they'll work on any x86 (including AMD chips) processor from the i386 on up. :) Brian Kirtis B wrote: On Monday 06 May 2002 08:08 pm, you wrote: I'm looking to download some Texstar RPM's but I don't know the difference between i586 and i686. Can anyone help? Thanks in advance. Brian If you have a Pentium II or higher then get the i686 one. If not then get the i586 one. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Where'd you get your CPU, a box of Crackerjacks!? -Wierd Al Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT over reacting
On Mon, 6 May 2002, darklord wrote: On Monday 06 May 2002 02:24 pm, you wrote: Ok Mike...ya talked me into it. to get you started you may want to take a look at Codeweavers wine. that seems to be the best one to start with if you're very new to using wine. you can get a copy of Codeweavers wine at this address. Let me know how you make out. feel free to email me off list ifso desire. http://www.codeweavers.com/ Again, there is a Codeweavers version that you can install straight from the Mandrake 8.2 CD's...thats what I did. stooopid me...I didn't even know that. show ya just how closely I've examined those Cd's. Just installed the stuff I needed and then shelved the rest. -- daRcmaTTeR -- Registered Linux User 182496 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] i586 v i686
On Monday 06 May 2002 07:19 pm, you wrote: Well, I have an Athlon T-Bird - am I correct in assuming that means to equeate it to over a PII? Also, what if there is only one option i.e. it comes in i586 but not i686 - will the i586 work for me? Thanks a lot! :) Brian Kirtis B wrote: On Monday 06 May 2002 08:08 pm, you wrote: I'm looking to download some Texstar RPM's but I don't know the difference between i586 and i686. Can anyone help? Thanks in advance. Brian If you have a Pentium II or higher then get the i686 one. If not then get the i586 one. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com yes and yes, i686 is ok on athlon, duron and i586 or i386 will also work. Backwards compatible. HTH Dennis M. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Early distro on older PC (was 2 distributions on 1 computer?????)
On Monday 06 May 2002 14:55, Michael Adams opened a general hailing frequency and transmitted to all open stations: Mandrake won't run on a 486 or 386 as it is compiled for pentiums. I beleive there is a 486 distro downloadable (from memory). Thanks for the info, much appreciated. Will see what I can find in the 'net. skinky There was a thread on that 486 distro either last year or very eary this year try the newbie-archives. Alternatively, redhat is compiled AFAIK to run on 386 or better. Michael ducks for cover after suggesting altenative distro you better bucky! :P seriously, does it matter? i mean try and run XP on a 486, then realize there is a reason we are fooling with linux... depending on what you want the machine to do, either http://dmoz.org/Computers/Software/Operating_Systems/Linux/Distributions/ or http://dmoz.org/Computers/Software/Operating_Systems/Linux/Distributions/Tiny/ may be a big help to you. -- ... and if you drown, die knowing you were headed for the shore. -from farenheight 451 shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] The Register: Preinstalled Windows Illegal to Remove ?
On Monday 06 May 2002 17:35, daRcmaTTeR opened a general hailing frequency and transmitted to all open stations: As long as you reserve one of them for use on Bill Gates, who could argue? ;-) I must say I don't follow the logic of guns buying freedom of sexual expression - not the way I do it my bedroom anyway. :-) Brian, Thats a terrible thing to say. even for Billy-bob. sure the guy is evil but geeZ. That's rather harsh. Maybe the poor bugger simply doesn't know any different. poor dumb bugger. now now, billyg does come from a family of lawyers -- I struggle to be breif but manage to be obscure.- Horace shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] E-term problems under 8.2?
civileme wrote: Femme, are you running a K6-2? If so, try this Install 8.2 with F1 at splash screen and expert nopentium and then at bootloader time, Modify the append line to include nopentium. You should then be able to save. This is an undocumented difference between k6-2 and pentium that was exposed by the new virtual memory code in the kernel and it brings about memory paging errors. Civileme Ironically? not? I'm running a PIII 550. On an ancient but reliable BX board by Asus. Otherwise I would have tried that while back when it was mentioned on the list by Kaj. *sigh* Sorry thats not it. And I tried again the other day, configuring 3 terms (all E-terms) differently trying a few diff things with the menus. Nada. They all come up transparent no backgrounds or not the backgrounds I set when I turn off the transparency. -- Femme Good Decisions You boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Dock and tray
I've been fooling around with different windows managers, particularly IceWM. One thing I can't figure out is the use of the tray, and dockable apps. Does someone have a URL or a manual to point me to? I couldn't find anything on Google and icewm.org. -- Warren Post Santa Rosa de Copan, Honduras http://www.srcopan.vze.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dock and tray
On Mon, 6 May 2002 18:23:35 -0600 Warren Post [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been fooling around with different windows managers, particularly IceWM. One thing I can't figure out is the use of the tray, and dockable apps. Does someone have a URL or a manual to point me to? I couldn't find anything on Google and icewm.org. An FAQ: http://icewmfaq.cjb.net/ An online manual (same as help on the menu?): http://www.icewm.org/files/en/manual/ Mailing list/IRC: http://www.icewm.org/index.php?page=support -- Todd Slater 10:06pm up 1 day, 2:18, 2 users, load average: 0.25, 0.15, 0.11 2.4.8-26mdk Examinations are formidable even to the best prepared, for even the greatest fool may ask more than the wisest man can answer. (C.C. Colton) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
