Re: Battery Behavior - istDS

2005-11-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi


On Nov 2, 2005, at 11:55 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:


There were some messages a while back about the battery charge warning
indicator on the istDS.  Didn't have the camera then so I didn't  
pay much

attention.

Earlier today I noticed the indicator was at half.  Turned off the  
camera
for a while as I wasn't snapping any pix, about 1/2 hour later  
turned the
camera on again, indicator was at full.  After a few snaps it was  
at 1/2

again.

Does this behavior suggest that it's time to replace the bats, or  
something

else.


They're getting used up. Be sure to have a spare set of batteries in  
your bag, you'll need them soon. Run what's in there until they go dry.


One of the things I was doing today was experimenting with trap  
focus.  I
caught a few pix of cars coming and going.  Godfrey, I think when  
we were
trying out the technique on Friday you were wondering if a car  
could be

caught with the technique.  It seems that it can.


:-)
Oh, I knew it could catch a car in motion. The question is just how  
fast it will make the exposure once the car enters the trap focus zone.


Godfrey



*ist-DS saving zero-byte files occasionally.

2005-11-03 Thread David Oswald
Over the last couple of months, on three occasions I've experienced the 
following:


I review a few of the day's shots on the camera's viewscreen.  One shot 
will come up as Image cannot be displayed (or something like that). 
When I look at it on my computer, I find that particular image is just a 
filename, but the file itself is zero bytes long.


This only seems to happen once in a great while.  Out of a thousand 
shots in the last two months, it only affected three.  And it doesn't 
seem tied to any particular memory card; I've seen it on both my 512mb 
Sandisk card, my 1gb generic brand, and my 1gb sandisk.


I think what I'm doing is shutting the camera off by flicking its on-off 
switch to the off position too quickly after snapping a shot.  I don't 
know how I developed that wierd habbit, but I think it is somehow related.


Has anyone else experienced this behavior on their *ist-DS?



RE: Best M42 Camera?

2005-11-03 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi John
what kind of batteries do you use with the SP's?
greetings
Markus



I now have three SP's, and they all feel good!

 Does anyone else remember the ads Pentax used to run, in which 
the tag-line 
was Just hold a Pentax?

HTH

John Coyle




Re: Another crystal image

2005-11-03 Thread skye
This is amazing (and again, begs the question: what is it, exactly?).
It looks like organic stained glass.

You're truly putting that camera to good use :)

On 11/2/05, Don Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I thought this might be interesting.

 http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/hold/only003.jpg



Re: Another crystal image

2005-11-03 Thread Don Williams
This one is also salicylic acid, but the 
crystals have grown much faster and 
overlap and join. Conditions are the 
same as before -- more or less. I've 
taken well over 150 similar images with 
the *ist D about half of which have been 
scrapped. I have dozens on film as well.


This is the start of a commercial 
operation. They'll be offered for sale 
from a US website as prints, framed, or 
mailed in tubes. But because I have such 
warm feelings for the Pentax group I've 
snatched the opportunity to come back -- 
now that I have a Pentax body on the 
microscopes again and can legitimately 
do so -- and show some of this stuff.


One idea is that many prints could be 
original -- one image one print. This 
way you could not find, hanging in a 
neighbors bathroom, the same one you 
have in the prized spot in your front 
hall. I've been looking at websites 
where pictures are for sale and trying 
to decide how to price them. However 
they're different insofar as they'll be 
originals with no others like them 
anywhere. Any suggestions? Off-list 
would be best for a reply to this one.


The big printer has been set up, paper 
and loads of ink bought (in Oklahoma by 
the way) and soon we'll start. The first 
ones should be ready in a week. Because 
my partner and I are now in business I 
have to forgo the satisfaction of 
posting galleries of these images as I 
have done with other photomicrographs 
and videos.


Diatoms and other interesting and 
beautiful 'micro-life' will be included 
in these collections.


Don

skye wrote:

This is amazing (and again, begs the question: what is it, exactly?).
It looks like organic stained glass.

You're truly putting that camera to good use :)

On 11/2/05, Don Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I thought this might be interesting.

http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/hold/only003.jpg






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Updated: Photomicro Link -- 18 05 2005



Re: BH Drops *istD from latest catalogue

2005-11-03 Thread John Forbes
I bought my second body from a major UK supplier in April.  When I  
enquired about future availability, they told me that the camera was still  
being made.  In the UK at least, it is priced the same as the DS (£600  
when I bought mine, slightly less now), which is not high (at least by  
UK standards).


For my needs, it's fast enough, and has enough pixels.  I doubt if its  
successor will be enough of an improvement to justify my spending what I  
expect will be quite a lot more than £600 on it.  Indeed, I don't  
anticipate buying another body for quite a while.


When you consider what the PZ1-P and MZ-S sold for, and compare facilities  
and construction quality, I think it's great value.


I suspect Pentax have sufficient parts in stock to continue making them  
for the time being, and will do so in small batches as required - like the  
lenses.  The more knowledgeable buyer will seek them out without Pentax  
having to spend any money on promotion.  Seems like a reasonable strategy  
to me!


John






On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 06:05:23 -, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Ironic, considering what I payed for mine in Sept ($899CDN with the D-BG  
grip at Blacks, on blowout)


-Adam


P. J. Alling wrote:

They stopped building them but they're not discontinued, not according  
to Pentaximaging at least.  They're priced high to keep

them in stock until the replacement is announced.

Herb Chong wrote:

i'm surprised that a camera whose manufacture was supposedly  
discontinued in February is still available so long after that.


Herb
- Original Message - From: Kenneth Waller  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: BH Drops *istD from latest catalogue



Oh, so the sky isn't falling ;)



















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Re: Re: Another crystal image

2005-11-03 Thread mike wilson
 From: Don Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  But because I have such 
 warm feelings for the Pentax group I've 
 snatched the opportunity to come back -- 

Steady, there.


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Re: Pentax Prayer... was Nikon D200, 18-200 lens and flash system

2005-11-03 Thread John Forbes

On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 02:38:38 -, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Dear Pentax Father who art in Japan, the only true God,

Forgive us for looking envfully and coveting the DSLR's being produced


I hope he forgives you for SAYING envfully. :-)

Anyway, can I just say that it's very encouraging to see you repenting for  
past sins, Tom.


John



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Re: *ist-DS saving zero-byte files occasionally.

2005-11-03 Thread Fred
 Has anyone else experienced this behavior on their *ist-DS?

No, not here.

Fred



Re: Best M42 Camera?

2005-11-03 Thread Paul Stenquist
I've owned and used a number of screwmount cameras. While I liked the 
Fuji 801 very much, I found it a bit fragile. I broke the advance 
mechanism on two of them. One got ten years of use or so and probably 
about 3000 rolls of film. That's all one can expect. The second one 
lasted only a couple of months. My all time favorite is the Spotmatic 
F. The meter isn't as advanced as the Fuji, but the camera feels better 
in terms of workmanship. And it seems to be very tough. Of course it 
will give you open aperture metering with all those wonderful SMC Tak 
lenses. That's a very good thing.

Paul
On Nov 2, 2005, at 11:08 PM, Andre Langevin wrote:


I kept my feet in the film camera area... but yes, why not?

Andre


Canon 1DSmkII with a mount adapter?
How about a 5D?

-Mat

On 11/2/05, Andre Langevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Spotmatic F

 Second choice: Fujica 705  801 (brighter finder and silicium 
meter).


 But way ahead is... Canon T90 used with SMC Takumar lenses, each 
with

 the proper Canon adapter.  Multi-spot metering, flash spot metering,
 8 images per second, etc...


  Andre






Re: FS - LX

2005-11-03 Thread Toralf Lund

Bruce Dayton wrote:


Just want to make sure there is no interest in this camera before I
move on to venues for selling it.  It does seem that the age of film
is about over.
 

Actually, I sort of want it, but expect the price will be higher than 
what I'm prepared to pay for another camera right now - based on what 
people usually ask for (and get) when selling an LX. Which suggest to me 
that it's age isn't quite over yet.


Then there is the question of postage etc.

But if you think you can give me a really good price...

- T



Re: BH Drops *istD from latest catalogue

2005-11-03 Thread Paul Stenquist
BH lists six Pentax digital SLR packages, including three for the 
*istD. You can get it for $1169.95 without a lens or for more with 
either of two zooms -- the DA 16-45 or the FA-J  18-35. The other 
listed cameras are the DL (with and without  the DA 18-55 zoom) and the 
DS2 (body only). The only camera no longer available is the DS.


No, the sky isn't falling.

Paul

On Nov 3, 2005, at 1:05 AM, Adam Maas wrote:

Ironic, considering what I payed for mine in Sept ($899CDN with the 
D-BG grip at Blacks, on blowout)


-Adam


P. J. Alling wrote:

They stopped building them but they're not discontinued, not 
according to Pentaximaging at least.  They're priced high to keep

them in stock until the replacement is announced.

Herb Chong wrote:

i'm surprised that a camera whose manufacture was supposedly 
discontinued in February is still available so long after that.


Herb
- Original Message - From: Kenneth Waller 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: BH Drops *istD from latest catalogue



Oh, so the sky isn't falling ;)















Re: PESO: The scene of an accident.

2005-11-03 Thread Paul Stenquist
Another shot that would surely sell would be one of the emergency 
workers extricating the woman from the car.

Paul
On Nov 3, 2005, at 2:23 AM, Cotty wrote:


On 2/11/05, David Oswald, discombobulated, unleashed:

than two minutes, when suddenly it was struck by a fast moving car 
that

ran its red light.  The car broadsided the bus.  The car was seriously
damaged, and driver taken to the hospital in critical condition (she 
was

later upgraded to stable).

We were then put through a triage routine by the first responders to
determine who (if anyone) was injured.  Mostly any injuries were just
people pretending to be injured, thinking their gravy train had come 
in.

 Despicable really.  Anyway, it held us all up by about 90 minutes.
Fortunately I had my camera.

Taken with the *ist-DS, and the DA16-45 lens

http://users.adelphia.net/~daoswald/pictures/index.html


Well done David. FYI - next time (!) try and get the casualty in the 
same

frame as the bus  - that would have been the pic the paper would have
wanted. I know it's easy to say that, but shuffle right to the front, 
go
vertical, casualty and team at the bottom of frame, the front of the 
bus

at the top. A couple of shots rattled off before you're asked to step
back and bingo. Under the circumstances, you did well.




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: Battery Behavior - istDS

2005-11-03 Thread Paul Stenquist
The batteries are goners. Replace them before the camera goes weirdo on 
you g.

Paul
On Nov 3, 2005, at 2:55 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:


There were some messages a while back about the battery charge warning
indicator on the istDS.  Didn't have the camera then so I didn't pay 
much

attention.

Earlier today I noticed the indicator was at half.  Turned off the 
camera
for a while as I wasn't snapping any pix, about 1/2 hour later turned 
the
camera on again, indicator was at full.  After a few snaps it was at 
1/2

again.

Does this behavior suggest that it's time to replace the bats, or 
something

else.

One of the things I was doing today was experimenting with trap focus. 
 I
caught a few pix of cars coming and going.  Godfrey, I think when we 
were

trying out the technique on Friday you were wondering if a car could be
caught with the technique.  It seems that it can.

Shel
You meet the nicest people with a Pentax






Re: PUG comments

2005-11-03 Thread Mark Roberts
Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Having the blank and a balanced rack with lots of
possibilities is desirable.
having no vowels at all is not -

You gotta pick up that Welsh version of Scrabble, Ann ;-)
 
 
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: Pentax Prayer... was Nikon D200, 18-200 lens and flash system

2005-11-03 Thread Mark Roberts
Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

snip
and/or will lead to the U.S. becoming a nation governed by 
religious zealots...

becoming???
;-)
 
 
-- 
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Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: PESO - Herb On the Ledge

2005-11-03 Thread Herb Chong
a camera and a hiking backpack. we went about 5 miles, including some steep 
stuff and at least one place where rock climbing experience was useful, and 
there was both snow and a lot of wet trail from the rains. all of the 
waterfalls were running much higher than normal for this time of year.


Herb
- Original Message - 
From: Patrick Schork [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 11:02 PM
Subject: Re: PESO - Herb On the Ledge



Great shot - well done.

How much gear was Herb carrying? Looks like he's got 2 huge bags on.





Re: Best M42 Camera?

2005-11-03 Thread Mark Roberts
Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I know this is subjective -
I'd like a full frame to slap my M42 lenses onto, so...
Any opinions on which is the best screw mount camera?
Including Fuji cameras, etc...all are fair game.
I know each can be the best for a particular reason, but I'm thinking, in
terms of build quality, longevity, features, etc...

Canon 1Ds-II with M42 adapter g
 
 
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: Best M42 Camera?

2005-11-03 Thread Dario Bonazza

Mark Roberts wrote:


Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I know this is subjective -
I'd like a full frame to slap my M42 lenses onto, so...
Any opinions on which is the best screw mount camera?
Including Fuji cameras, etc...all are fair game.
I know each can be the best for a particular reason, but I'm thinking, in
terms of build quality, longevity, features, etc...


Canon 1Ds-II with M42 adapter g


I won't link any digicam to longevity, and I'd be rather hesitant when it 
comes to build quality...

OK, I notice your g

My choice is the Spotmatic F.

Dario 



Re: Best M42 Camera?

2005-11-03 Thread frank theriault
On 11/3/05, Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 My choice is the Spotmatic F.

A lot of people seem to be choosing the F.  The only thing I wouldn't
like about it is that the meter's on when the lenscap's off.  That
means the battery's constantly draining, and if you leave the cap off
when you're done...

I'd choose the SPII.  Stop-down metering doesn't bother me a bit, and
you still get the hotshoe.

-frank

--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: Pentax Prayer... was Nikon D200, 18-200 lens and flash system

2005-11-03 Thread frank theriault
On 11/2/05, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
 If you think that God should not be mentioned snip[because it]snip will 
 lead to the U.S.
 becoming a nation governed by religious zealots, please do not read any
 further.


you're a bit too late on that score, don't you think?

LOL

-frank


--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: PESO: The scene of an accident.

2005-11-03 Thread frank theriault
On 11/2/05, David Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Los Angeles introduced a new bus line on the 29th of October.  It is a
 rapid line that runs on a road all its own called Busway, thorough the
 middle of the San Fernando Valley, connecting Woodland Hills / Warner
 Center with the Metrolink subway system starting in North Hollywood.
 The busyway has synchronized traffic lights that keep the bus moving all
 the time.  This means that as the busline road crosses major streets,
 traffic stops on those surface roads.

 I rode the Orange Line today as a novelty, to see how the experience was
 going to be.  My wife came with me.  We had been on the bus for less
 than two minutes, when suddenly it was struck by a fast moving car that
 ran its red light.  The car broadsided the bus.  The car was seriously
 damaged, and driver taken to the hospital in critical condition (she was
 later upgraded to stable).

 We were then put through a triage routine by the first responders to
 determine who (if anyone) was injured.  Mostly any injuries were just
 people pretending to be injured, thinking their gravy train had come in.
   Despicable really.  Anyway, it held us all up by about 90 minutes.
 Fortunately I had my camera.

 Taken with the *ist-DS, and the DA16-45 lens

 http://users.adelphia.net/~daoswald/pictures/index.html

 Warning: It's about 4.5 megabytes of photos that will load.

 I posted the pictures quickly because a woman riding on the bus with us
 is married to a reporter.  Quickly he was on the cell with me requesting
 any of the pictures I took.  ...I had to remove the ones where my wife
 was posing, smiling next to the firefighters.  It seemed a little
 inappropriate after the fact. ;)

nice series

-frank

--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: PESO - Herb On the Ledge

2005-11-03 Thread frank theriault
On 11/2/05, Mat Maessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://www.matoe.org/gallery2/v/tomatoe/catskills/006_4_0001.JPG.html

 This was taken this past saturday, while hiking in the Catskills with
 our esteemed Herb Chong.
 The full gallery is in progress, and will be done tomorrow, but here's
 the first of the bunch. Herb himself pondering life, the universe, and
 everything.

 This was shot with my Super Program, and the 31 Limited that I
 borrowed from Herb (thanks again Herb!). The crappy Kodak scan really
 doesn't do the lens justice, it really is tack sharp. I'll have to try
 rescanning the negative and playing with it to see if I can get a
 better picture out of it.

 Stay tuned for more images from the same trip, including a few
 full-frame shots from the Sigma 12-24 zoom (also borrowed for the day
 from Herb. Thanks again!).

 -Mat



wonderful shot!  seems to be a lot of sky on the shot.  maybe taking a
bit of it out would put the emphasis a bit more on herb and the
gorgeous mountains below him.  cropping it square looks even better to
my eye than it does now - and it looks great as is.

thanks,
frank


--
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Re: Pentax Prayer... was Nikon D200, 18-200 lens and flash system

2005-11-03 Thread Kenneth Waller
Yes father -
I will now go to my room and say 5 hail Takumars!

Grin

Kenneth Waller

-Original Message-
From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Pentax Prayer... was Nikon D200, 18-200 lens and flash system

If you are offended by references to God, please do not read any further.  
If you think that God should not be mentioned in a post that is being sent 
to a mail server in the United States of America because of 'The Separation 
Clause' and/or because you fear the mere mention of the word 'god' will 
cause you or others to become converts, and/or because it will otherwise 
make you feel uncomfortably accountable, and/or will lead to the U.S. 
becoming a nation governed by religious zealots, please do not read any 
further.

.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.

Dear Pentax Father who art in Japan, the only true God,

Let your name continue and not be profaned.  Let it continue even if it has 
to be in some hyphenated form such as Pentax-Samsung.

Let thy corporate entity flourish and continue to produce digital SLR 
cameras.

Let thy will to keep the same market share or even surrender some to the 
competition be done in the USA as it's done earth-wide (who cares what they 
think?).

Give us this day (or sometime in the near future) our megapixels (hopefully 
12mp or more), and our big buffers to take more than 5 or 6 rapid fire 
shots, and our faster AF, and our simultaneous dual format RAW/.jpg ability, 
and our larger LCD screen, and our HyperProgram mode, and our complete lens 
compatibility with all previously existing K-mount lenses.

Forgive us for looking envfully and coveting the DSLR's being produced by 
your competitors just as we forgive those who actually go and purchase them.

Lead us not into temptation by not producing a comparable product, but 
deliver us from evil by shortly giving us, your faithful servants and 
acolytes, an answer to our prayers.

For yours is the corporation, and the product, and the marketing power, and 
the glory, forever and ever.

Amen


Tom C. (all in fun)


From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED]


It seems that all prayers of Nikon users came true:

Now let's hope that Pentax listens to its loyal users' prayers and at least
we will have fully K compatible body with most of above improvements
built-in soon...





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Re: Best M42 Camera?

2005-11-03 Thread Bob Shell


On Wednesday, November 2, 2005, at 10:30  PM, Andre Langevin wrote:


Spotmatic F



Agreed.


Second choice: Fujica 705  801 (brighter finder and silicium meter).



Also good.

But way ahead is... Canon T90 used with SMC Takumar lenses, each with 
the proper Canon adapter.  Multi-spot metering, flash spot metering, 8 
images per second, etc...




No, because parts are not available.  Most T90 cameras are starting to 
show darkening of the LCD by now and there are no replacement parts.  
The T90 was the test platform for the shutter and many other subsystems 
used in the EOS cameras, and all were improved for that series.


If the original poster wants a brand new M42 camera, the Voigtländer 
Bessaflex is available (www.cameraquest.com).  I know several people 
who have bought them and really like them.


Bob




Re: Another crystal image

2005-11-03 Thread frank theriault
On 11/3/05, Don Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I thought this might be interesting.

 http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/hold/only003.jpg

 Its a stack of five pictures. Sometimes,
 if one is not careful the growth gets a
 bit thick (deep) and since the depth of
 field is almost non-existent one has to
 resort to other means. The images were
 stacked with CombZ and had the levels
 slightly altered in Photoshop. No
 sharpening was done and they were
 'stacked only'. I didn't measure the
 focus steps. The total might have been
 about 120um.


you're right, it is interesting!  cool shot.

-frank


--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: PESO: The scene of an accident.

2005-11-03 Thread Kenneth Waller
Neat looking bus, but I don't see any damage.

There was a similar incident a while ago, in Minneapolis, I believe, where 
after a bus accident, more people showed up claiming injury, than were actually 
on it at the time of the incident.

Kenneth Waller

-Original Message-
From: David Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PESO: The scene of an accident.

Los Angeles introduced a new bus line on the 29th of October.  It is a 
rapid line that runs on a road all its own called Busway, thorough the 
middle of the San Fernando Valley, connecting Woodland Hills / Warner 
Center with the Metrolink subway system starting in North Hollywood. 
The busyway has synchronized traffic lights that keep the bus moving all 
the time.  This means that as the busline road crosses major streets, 
traffic stops on those surface roads.

I rode the Orange Line today as a novelty, to see how the experience was 
going to be.  My wife came with me.  We had been on the bus for less 
than two minutes, when suddenly it was struck by a fast moving car that 
ran its red light.  The car broadsided the bus.  The car was seriously 
damaged, and driver taken to the hospital in critical condition (she was 
later upgraded to stable).

We were then put through a triage routine by the first responders to 
determine who (if anyone) was injured.  Mostly any injuries were just 
people pretending to be injured, thinking their gravy train had come in. 
  Despicable really.  Anyway, it held us all up by about 90 minutes. 
Fortunately I had my camera.

Taken with the *ist-DS, and the DA16-45 lens

http://users.adelphia.net/~daoswald/pictures/index.html

Warning: It's about 4.5 megabytes of photos that will load.

I posted the pictures quickly because a woman riding on the bus with us 
is married to a reporter.  Quickly he was on the cell with me requesting 
any of the pictures I took.  ...I had to remove the ones where my wife 
was posing, smiling next to the firefighters.  It seemed a little 
inappropriate after the fact. ;)

Dave




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Re: Battery Behavior - istDS

2005-11-03 Thread Doug Franklin
On Wed, 2 Nov 2005 23:55:44 -0800, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

 Earlier today I noticed the indicator was at half.  Turned off the
 camera for a while as I wasn't snapping any pix, about 1/2 hour
 later turned the camera on again, indicator was at full.  After a
 few snaps it was at 1/2 again.

It means the charge in the batteries is waning.  If they're
rechargeable, I'd go ahead and recharge them.  If not, I'd keep using
them until (a) the camera acts wonky or (b) I have to shoot something I
can't miss.

 [...] wondering if a car could be caught with [trap focus].  It
 seems that it can.

It surely can.  I've used a number of lenses that way with my ZX-5 and
MZ-S.  I haven't tried it with the *ist D yet.  The thing to beware of
is that the point of focus often isn't what you want it to be due, I
think, to the lock time (the time between the camera realizing
something has come into focus and the actual tripping of the shutter). 
Often, I find that the main plane of focus will be a little behind
where the car came into focus, measured in the direction of the car's
travel.  With the MZ-S and *ist D there are enough focal points in the
AF system that you should be able to select one that will get the
actual plane of focus about where you want it.

TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ




Re: PESO: The scene of an accident.

2005-11-03 Thread Scott Loveless
On 11/2/05, David Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 We were then put through a triage routine by the first responders to
 determine who (if anyone) was injured.  Mostly any injuries were just
 people pretending to be injured, thinking their gravy train had come in.
   Despicable really.  Anyway, it held us all up by about 90 minutes.
 Fortunately I had my camera.


A few years back, in St. Louis, a Metro bus was involved in a minor
accident.  There were only a handful of people riding on the bus.  By
the time the ambulance arrived the population of the bus had
tripled, most of them complaining about neck pain.  Go figure. 
Anyway, nice series.  Thanks for sharing.

--
Scott Loveless
http://www.twosixteen.com

--
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Re: PESO: The scene of an accident.

2005-11-03 Thread Kenneth Waller
OOPs, I commented thinking there was only one image posted! Duh

Kenneth Waller

-Original Message-
From: David Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PESO: The scene of an accident.

Los Angeles introduced a new bus line on the 29th of October.  It is a 
rapid line that runs on a road all its own called Busway, thorough the 
middle of the San Fernando Valley, connecting Woodland Hills / Warner 
Center with the Metrolink subway system starting in North Hollywood. 
The busyway has synchronized traffic lights that keep the bus moving all 
the time.  This means that as the busline road crosses major streets, 
traffic stops on those surface roads.

I rode the Orange Line today as a novelty, to see how the experience was 
going to be.  My wife came with me.  We had been on the bus for less 
than two minutes, when suddenly it was struck by a fast moving car that 
ran its red light.  The car broadsided the bus.  The car was seriously 
damaged, and driver taken to the hospital in critical condition (she was 
later upgraded to stable).

We were then put through a triage routine by the first responders to 
determine who (if anyone) was injured.  Mostly any injuries were just 
people pretending to be injured, thinking their gravy train had come in. 
  Despicable really.  Anyway, it held us all up by about 90 minutes. 
Fortunately I had my camera.

Taken with the *ist-DS, and the DA16-45 lens

http://users.adelphia.net/~daoswald/pictures/index.html

Warning: It's about 4.5 megabytes of photos that will load.

I posted the pictures quickly because a woman riding on the bus with us 
is married to a reporter.  Quickly he was on the cell with me requesting 
any of the pictures I took.  ...I had to remove the ones where my wife 
was posing, smiling next to the firefighters.  It seemed a little 
inappropriate after the fact. ;)

Dave




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Re: PESO: The scene of an accident.

2005-11-03 Thread Kenneth Waller
I still don't see any image of damage to the bus. Seems that would be a shot 
sure to be taken.

Kenneth Waller

-Original Message-
From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PESO: The scene of an accident.

OOPs, I commented thinking there was only one image posted! Duh

Kenneth Waller

-Original Message-
From: David Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PESO: The scene of an accident.

Los Angeles introduced a new bus line on the 29th of October.  It is a 
rapid line that runs on a road all its own called Busway, thorough the 
middle of the San Fernando Valley, connecting Woodland Hills / Warner 
Center with the Metrolink subway system starting in North Hollywood. 
The busyway has synchronized traffic lights that keep the bus moving all 
the time.  This means that as the busline road crosses major streets, 
traffic stops on those surface roads.

I rode the Orange Line today as a novelty, to see how the experience was 
going to be.  My wife came with me.  We had been on the bus for less 
than two minutes, when suddenly it was struck by a fast moving car that 
ran its red light.  The car broadsided the bus.  The car was seriously 
damaged, and driver taken to the hospital in critical condition (she was 
later upgraded to stable).

We were then put through a triage routine by the first responders to 
determine who (if anyone) was injured.  Mostly any injuries were just 
people pretending to be injured, thinking their gravy train had come in. 
  Despicable really.  Anyway, it held us all up by about 90 minutes. 
Fortunately I had my camera.

Taken with the *ist-DS, and the DA16-45 lens

http://users.adelphia.net/~daoswald/pictures/index.html

Warning: It's about 4.5 megabytes of photos that will load.

I posted the pictures quickly because a woman riding on the bus with us 
is married to a reporter.  Quickly he was on the cell with me requesting 
any of the pictures I took.  ...I had to remove the ones where my wife 
was posing, smiling next to the firefighters.  It seemed a little 
inappropriate after the fact. ;)

Dave




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Re: Tripod Head for Big Bertha

2005-11-03 Thread Kenneth Waller
Thanks!

Other than the weight, I'm very pleased with the combo  what it can do.

Kenneth Waller

-Original Message-
From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Re: Tripod Head for Big Bertha


- Original Message - 
From: Kenneth Waller
Subject: Re: Tripod Head for Big Bertha



 This goes for any gimbal head. You use a gimbal head so you don't have to 
 fight the inherent imbalance/weight  of long lens/camera body.

I was completely amazed, BTW, at how smooth your 600mm rig is to run.

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Re: Best M42 Camera?

2005-11-03 Thread Otis C. Wright, Jr.



frank theriault wrote:


On 11/3/05, Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 


My choice is the Spotmatic F.
   



A lot of people seem to be choosing the F.  The only thing I wouldn't
like about it is that the meter's on when the lenscap's off.  That
means the battery's constantly draining, and if you leave the cap off
when you're done...
 

Been using a Spotmatic F since '74.   When traveling, walked around for 
many a day with the cap off.   Never had a problem.  From my experience, 
this isn't much of a problem.  I always had a spare battery buried in 
the case.  Can't remember using one while in the field, but that maybe 
just my bad memory.  Almost all of them became suspect due to age 
and were tossed.   For me, it was never a problem.Have a couple of 
ESIIs that came my way over the years.  Prefer the F.



I'd choose the SPII.  Stop-down metering doesn't bother me a bit, an
 


you still get the hotshoe.
 

Had one of these for aboutr seven years.  Great camera.   Stop-down 
worked fine for me.  


Otis Wright


-frank

--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson


 





Re: Another crystal image

2005-11-03 Thread Jack Davis
Don,
I feel that this type of image would be particularly suited to
commercial use. Virtually any sort of business office or attendant
customer receiving or waiting area. 
Engineering office reception areas immediately comes to mind. They will
trend to occupy the viewers mind to a greater extent than would a
quickly read common theme. One route to reaching such locations would,
of course, be through arming commercial interior decorating businesses
with examples (watermarked) for their portfolios. Has worked some for
me.
Very marketable, at least the one I've seen.

Jack

--- Don Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This one is also salicylic acid, but the 
 crystals have grown much faster and 
 overlap and join. Conditions are the 
 same as before -- more or less. I've 
 taken well over 150 similar images with 
 the *ist D about half of which have been 
 scrapped. I have dozens on film as well.
 
 This is the start of a commercial 
 operation. They'll be offered for sale 
 from a US website as prints, framed, or 
 mailed in tubes. But because I have such 
 warm feelings for the Pentax group I've 
 snatched the opportunity to come back -- 
 now that I have a Pentax body on the 
 microscopes again and can legitimately 
 do so -- and show some of this stuff.
 
 One idea is that many prints could be 
 original -- one image one print. This 
 way you could not find, hanging in a 
 neighbors bathroom, the same one you 
 have in the prized spot in your front 
 hall. I've been looking at websites 
 where pictures are for sale and trying 
 to decide how to price them. However 
 they're different insofar as they'll be 
 originals with no others like them 
 anywhere. Any suggestions? Off-list 
 would be best for a reply to this one.
 
 The big printer has been set up, paper 
 and loads of ink bought (in Oklahoma by 
 the way) and soon we'll start. The first 
 ones should be ready in a week. Because 
 my partner and I are now in business I 
 have to forgo the satisfaction of 
 posting galleries of these images as I 
 have done with other photomicrographs 
 and videos.
 
 Diatoms and other interesting and 
 beautiful 'micro-life' will be included 
 in these collections.
 
 Don
 
 skye wrote:
  This is amazing (and again, begs the question: what is it,
 exactly?).
  It looks like organic stained glass.
  
  You're truly putting that camera to good use :)
  
  On 11/2/05, Don Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I thought this might be interesting.
 
  http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/hold/only003.jpg
  
  
  
 
 -- 
 Dr E D F Williams
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 See feature: The Cement Company from Hell
 Updated: Photomicro Link -- 18 05 2005
 
 





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Re: OAMPS extended warranty and Phototechnical repairs in Brisbane

2005-11-03 Thread David Savage
DO CRK do lens repairs as well?

Dave

On 11/3/05, Leon Altoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi John,

 Thanks for the offer, but I decided that I didn't trust them enough to
 have another go.  I took it to C R Kennedy yesterday and asked for a
 rush job and told them the tale.

 I got a call this morning saying it is ready to go and no charge.  The
 hot shoe contacts needed to be repaired in some way, which means that
 Phototechnical can't have tested it correctly or the poor packaging they
 used to return it caused it to be shaken to bits.  Either way they
 aren't getting another one of my cameras.

   Leon

 http://www.bluering.org.au
 http://www.bluering.org.au/leon


 John Coyle wrote:
  Leon, I've used Phototechnical in the past on a couple of occasions, and
  they had been excellent.  However, they are only just down the street
  from me and therefore I did not have to mail anything!
  I have to say that the last occasion I thought they were not very
  interested in working on Pentax - maybe they have lost the Old Fred
  who used to know the brand?
 
  If I weren't going to the UK next week I'd offer to go down for you...
 
  John Coyle
  Brisbane, Australia
 
  - Original Message - Wrom: FPEGAUTFJMVRESKPNKMBIPBARHDMNNSKVFVW
  To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
  Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 3:34 PM
  Subject: OAMPS extended warranty and Phototechnical repairs in Brisbane
 
 
  Hello everyone,
 
  I am currently upset with the service I have received the OAMPS
  extended warranty people and their repairer of choice Phototechnical
  in Brisbane (Australia).
 
  I have just sent off the email below to the companies concerned but
  would appreciate comments about either of these companies or with
  extended warranties in general.  At present I am not likely to ever
  purchase an extended warranty again.
 
  --
   Leon
 
  http://www.bluering.org.au
  http://www.bluering.org.au/leon
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Hello,
 
  I would like to express my dissatisfaction with the service I have
  received from Phototechnical and OAMPS.  The OAMPS extended warranty
  was originally purchased through Michael's in Melbourne (invoice
  x) who were unaware that the repairs were carried out by a
  Brisbane company.
 
  I recently sent my Pentax *istD to Phototechnical for repair via an
  OAMPS extended warranty.  It arrived at the Phototechnical workshop on
  12/9/2005 and took 7 weeks to be returned to me (The Phototechnical
  website mentions a 10 day repair turnaround - I have to assume this is
  only for your own extended warranty customers as is your freepost
  service which I am not allowed to use).  When I rang to check on it's
  progress I discovered Phototechnical had been waiting 2 and a half
  weeks for reply to a quote which OAMPS had never received and which I
  fear if I had not chased up both companies you would still be waiting on.
 
  I originally sent the camera with 9 weeks until I needed to have it
  again. There are now 8 days until I need to have the functioning
  camera back in my hands and the camera works worse than when it was
  originally sent.
 
  The camera had been sent securely packaged, double boxed, and was
  returned very loosely packaged - I dread what happens to more fragile
  equipment that Phototechnical return to its owner.  The box used to
  return it was in poor condition and had been recycled from a previous
  delivery and had not been marked as fragile.  If you are going to use
  this practice I would have preferred that you reuse the box I
  originally used (which was new) and had appropriate packaging for the
  camera.
 
  The camera had been sent because of a problem with the hotshoe.  When
  a flash was connected the digital communication was intermittent,
  requiring pressure to be placed gently on the left of the flash
  (looking at the rear) in order to get connection.  Now that it has
  been returned to me there is no communication between camera and flash
  except when the camera is fired.  I tested the original and new faults
  using 3 different Pentax AF360FGZ flashes and another *istD body with
  exactly the same configuration to clearly identify the cause of the
  problem.
 
  The original minor fault made using the camera slightly annoying but
  not impossible.  As I now can not use it with an external flash it is
  not functional for my use.
 
  When I rang through to the Phototechnical office today I found no one
  in authority to be able to talk to me about the problem and a company
  procedure of not letting the customer (me) talk to the technician.
  When I asked for a message to be relayed to the technician the answer
  did not inspire confidence.
 
  I asked which lens and flash were used to check the camera
  functionality. The answer was that they did not know.  Before I trust
  my camera back to the care of Phototechnical, I need to know that
  their technicians have the skill to diagnose faults and test
  functionality after the repair.  I was not asked to 

Re: Another crystal image

2005-11-03 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Don Williams wrote:
 
 I think I need to add that the picture
 I've posted is rather small. The
 original is a full sized TIFF with
 masses of fine detail.
 
 D

And I thank you for that a zillion times!

So beautiful.


Don't suppose you have any thin sections of rocks
such
as serpentine (without asbestos :) :) ) or the
like
that you have photoed with birefringence do you?

taking petrography in , I think it was, 1970 I
enjoyed
observing how much some of the samples looked like
the
work of some abstract impressionists or even 19th
century
impressionists - Id use it as a guide to remember
which was
which and the professor even accepted that, do a
degree,
when we had to explain how we knew which rock or
mineral
was what it was. 

It was sort of a there is nothing new under the
sun experience.


back then there was a poster that could be
found of the moon rock under a microscope which 
I had for quite a while.

ann

 
 Don Williams wrote:
  I thought this might be interesting.
 
  http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/hold/only003.jpg
 
  Its a stack of five pictures. Sometimes, if one is not careful the
  growth gets a bit thick (deep) and since the depth of field is almost
  non-existent one has to resort to other means. The images were stacked
  with CombZ and had the levels slightly altered in Photoshop. No
  sharpening was done and they were 'stacked only'. I didn't measure the
  focus steps. The total might have been about 120um.
 
  Don
 
 
 --
 Dr E D F Williams
 ___
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 See feature: The Cement Company from Hell
 Updated: Photomicro Link -- 18 05 2005



Re: PUG comments

2005-11-03 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Mark Roberts wrote:
 
 Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Having the blank and a balanced rack with lots of
 possibilities is desirable.
 having no vowels at all is not -
 
 You gotta pick up that Welsh version of Scrabble, Ann ;-)
 

LOL!  There _have_ been discussions of the like on
my Scrabble list
I can assure you :)



Re: Best M42 Camera?

2005-11-03 Thread pnstenquist
I've owned four Spotmatic Fs. Still have two. The battery has never been a 
problem for me. I took no greater pains with the lens cap than I do with any 
other camera. I think the drain on the battery is extremely low  when the meter 
is on and static. 
Paul


 
 
 frank theriault wrote:
 
 On 11/3/05, Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 
 My choice is the Spotmatic F.
 
 
 
 A lot of people seem to be choosing the F.  The only thing I wouldn't
 like about it is that the meter's on when the lenscap's off.  That
 means the battery's constantly draining, and if you leave the cap off
 when you're done...
   
 
 Been using a Spotmatic F since '74.   When traveling, walked around for 
 many a day with the cap off.   Never had a problem.  From my experience, 
 this isn't much of a problem.  I always had a spare battery buried in 
 the case.  Can't remember using one while in the field, but that maybe 
 just my bad memory.  Almost all of them became suspect due to age 
 and were tossed.   For me, it was never a problem.Have a couple of 
 ESIIs that came my way over the years.  Prefer the F.
 
 I'd choose the SPII.  Stop-down metering doesn't bother me a bit, an
   
 
 you still get the hotshoe.
   
 
 Had one of these for aboutr seven years.  Great camera.   Stop-down 
 worked fine for me.  
 
 Otis Wright
 
 -frank
 
 --
 Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson
 
 
   
 
 



Re: PESO - Herb On the Ledge

2005-11-03 Thread Mat Maessen
Thanks Frank!
I was thinking that cropping some of the sky might improve it. I'll
have to play around a bit tonight, and see how that looks.

-Mat

On 11/3/05, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 wonderful shot!  seems to be a lot of sky on the shot.  maybe taking a
 bit of it out would put the emphasis a bit more on herb and the
 gorgeous mountains below him.  cropping it square looks even better to
 my eye than it does now - and it looks great as is.



Re: BH Drops *istD from latest catalogue

2005-11-03 Thread P. J. Alling

Blacks was premature...  (But I assume it was good for you).

Adam Maas wrote:

Ironic, considering what I payed for mine in Sept ($899CDN with the 
D-BG grip at Blacks, on blowout)


-Adam


P. J. Alling wrote:

They stopped building them but they're not discontinued, not 
according to Pentaximaging at least.  They're priced high to keep

them in stock until the replacement is announced.

Herb Chong wrote:

i'm surprised that a camera whose manufacture was supposedly 
discontinued in February is still available so long after that.


Herb
- Original Message - From: Kenneth Waller 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: BH Drops *istD from latest catalogue



Oh, so the sky isn't falling ;)
















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Re: Pentax Prayer... was Nikon D200, 18-200 lens and flash system

2005-11-03 Thread Derek
I laughed so hard I almost died and went to Asahi/Pentax heaven.

Thanks, I really needed that!

Derek



 If you are offended by references to God, please do not read any further.  
 If you think that God should not be mentioned in a post that is being sent 
 to a mail server in the United States of America because of 'The Separation 
 Clause' and/or because you fear the mere mention of the word 'god' will 
 cause you or others to become converts, and/or because it will otherwise 
 make you feel uncomfortably accountable, and/or will lead to the U.S. 
 becoming a nation governed by religious zealots, please do not read any 
 further.
 
 .
 .
 .
 .
 .
 .
 .
 .
 .
 .
 .
 .
 
 Dear Pentax Father who art in Japan, the only true God,
 
 Let your name continue and not be profaned.  Let it continue even if it has 
 to be in some hyphenated form such as Pentax-Samsung.
 
 Let thy corporate entity flourish and continue to produce digital SLR 
 cameras.
 
 Let thy will to keep the same market share or even surrender some to the 
 competition be done in the USA as it's done earth-wide (who cares what they 
 think?).
 
 Give us this day (or sometime in the near future) our megapixels (hopefully 
 12mp or more), and our big buffers to take more than 5 or 6 rapid fire 
 shots, and our faster AF, and our simultaneous dual format RAW/.jpg ability, 
 and our larger LCD screen, and our HyperProgram mode, and our complete lens 
 compatibility with all previously existing K-mount lenses.
 
 Forgive us for looking envfully and coveting the DSLR's being produced by 
 your competitors just as we forgive those who actually go and purchase them.
 
 Lead us not into temptation by not producing a comparable product, but 
 deliver us from evil by shortly giving us, your faithful servants and 
 acolytes, an answer to our prayers.
 
 For yours is the corporation, and the product, and the marketing power, and 
 the glory, forever and ever.
 
 Amen
 
 
 Tom C. (all in fun)
 
 
 From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 It seems that all prayers of Nikon users came true:
 
 Now let's hope that Pentax listens to its loyal users' prayers and at least
 we will have fully K compatible body with most of above improvements
 built-in soon...
 
 



Re: PESO: The scene of an accident.

2005-11-03 Thread P. J. Alling
You have to admit that the accident wasn't exactly metrolink's fault.  
Stranding the survivors for 90 minuets is, (brings to mind an old 
joke, I wonder where they were planning to bury them...).


David Oswald wrote:

Yes, there was a 90 minute delay.  Here's why.  An officer eventually 
escorted us to the Woodman stop.  But he forgot to inform the 
metrolink authorities of where we were.  So OrangeLine buses were 
being re-routed past us.  We even went and asked a metrolink security 
officer and he impatiently just said, You're gonna have to work with 
us on this.  20 minutes later we found an apparent supervisor.  She 
said she didn't even know we were waiting.  I said, There were 40 
people travelling on the bus.  You took 12 away to medical attention.  
It doesn't take much of a mental leap to realize that you've got 28 
people stranded here.  A few minutes later they sent a bus by.


It's funny because I'm not a normal rider.  But sometimes on our day 
off we jump on the subway to go to the civic center or to hollywood, 
rather than driving through traffic.  Today I was telling my wife that 
the new Orange Line sounded really convenient, and that we ought to 
give it a try to see where it goes.  We rode less than one stop from 
the park-and-ride lot before we were struck and delayed 90 minutes.  
...very convenient.


Dave

Derek wrote:

Oustanding job!  I'm a Westsider who doesn't get to the valley much, 
so this is the first I've seen of the Orange Line.  Where are the 
pictures of your wife smiling with the firemen? (My wife wants to know).


Derek

P.S.  You had a 90 min delay?  Sounds like LA mass transit at work!




Thanks.  I was just kind of snapping away, but too timid to really 
stick my nose in it.  I was afraid that eventually they would ask me 
to stop if I got too aggressive.  In retrospect, I probably 
shouldn't have worried.  They were all too busy with their big scene 
to bother me.  As I look the shots over I quickly see they're 
nowhere near my best work. I guess I myself was a little flustered, 
plus, as I mentioned, I didnt' want to be too obvious.


The thought did cross my mind that if I got too obvious they would 
assume I was just a passer-by with a camera rather than one of the 
accident victims, and escort me out from within the police taped 
boundry.


Tom C wrote:

Just viewed them all.  Excellent job.  I love the irony :-( of the 
Fresh Cut Flowers and Easy to Get Across the Valley shots.


Tom C.






From: David Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: PESO: The scene of an accident.
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 21:21:33 -0800

The last shot in the sequence is of a kid that was interviewed by 
a local reporter via his wife's cell phone.  His wife then put me 
on the phone and he asked me to snap a shot of the kid.  No problem.


Tom C wrote:


Still waiting for the photos to come in.  Great job!  Gigantic 
kudos for having your camera with you.  My camera is always with 
me, if not just outside in the car.


Looking forward to seeing them as they download.  Work Pentax in 
there somehow.


Tom C.






From: David Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: PESO: The scene of an accident.
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 20:30:36 -0800

Los Angeles introduced a new bus line on the 29th of October.  
It is a rapid line that runs on a road all its own called 
Busway, thorough the middle of the San Fernando Valley, 
connecting Woodland Hills / Warner Center with the Metrolink 
subway system starting in North Hollywood. The busyway has 
synchronized traffic lights that keep the bus moving all the 
time.  This means that as the busline road crosses major 
streets, traffic stops on those surface roads.


I rode the Orange Line today as a novelty, to see how the 
experience was going to be.  My wife came with me.  We had been 
on the bus for less than two minutes, when suddenly it was 
struck by a fast moving car that ran its red light.  The car 
broadsided the bus.  The car was seriously damaged, and driver 
taken to the hospital in critical condition (she was later 
upgraded to stable).


We were then put through a triage routine by the first 
responders to determine who (if anyone) was injured.  Mostly any 
injuries were just people pretending to be injured, thinking 
their gravy train had come in.  Despicable really.  Anyway, it 
held us all up by about 90 minutes. Fortunately I had my camera.


Taken with the *ist-DS, and the DA16-45 lens

http://users.adelphia.net/~daoswald/pictures/index.html

Warning: It's about 4.5 megabytes of photos that will load.

I posted the pictures quickly because a woman riding on the bus 
with us is married to a reporter.  Quickly he was on the cell 
with me requesting any of the pictures I took.  ...I had to 
remove the ones where my wife was posing, smiling next to the 
firefighters.  It seemed a little 

Pentax Prayer... was Nikon D200, 18-200 lens and flash system

2005-11-03 Thread Joseph Tainter
And bless this basket of lenses so that it may be fruitful and multiply 
and nourish thy users.


Okay, I'm mixing up my miracles here. Its sort of like mixing metaphors.

And deliver us from the need to resort to Sigma lenses, Amen.

And protect thy servant, Nguyen.

Joe



Re: Best M42 Camera?

2005-11-03 Thread P. J. Alling
Spotmatics were originally designed to use a single 1.35 volt 625 or 
PX13(?) mercury cell.  Later models were designed to give correct meter 
readings with 1.5 volt replacements as well.


Markus Maurer wrote:


Hi John
what kind of batteries do you use with the SP's?
greetings
Markus


 


I now have three SP's, and they all feel good!

Does anyone else remember the ads Pentax used to run, in which 
the tag-line 
was Just hold a Pentax?


HTH

John Coyle

 




 




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Re: Best M42 Camera?

2005-11-03 Thread Mat Maessen
For a newer camera, it almost makes sense to get something like a
ZX-5n and semi-permanently mount an M42 adapter to it. No matrix
metering, but you do get the full center weighted, motor drive
integrated, etc. Only downside is stop-down metering, but if you're ok
with that, you're set.

Does the Bessaflex do open-aperture metering with screwmount lenses
that support it?

-Mat

On 11/3/05, Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If the original poster wants a brand new M42 camera, the Voigtländer
 Bessaflex is available (www.cameraquest.com).  I know several people
 who have bought them and really like them.



Re: Battery Behavior - istDS

2005-11-03 Thread Bob Sullivan
Full = 51% to 100% full
Half = 1% to 50% full
Zero = SOL - make sure to carry some spares!
Regards,  Bob S.

On 11/3/05, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 There were some messages a while back about the battery charge warning
 indicator on the istDS.  Didn't have the camera then so I didn't pay much
 attention.

 Earlier today I noticed the indicator was at half.  Turned off the camera
 for a while as I wasn't snapping any pix, about 1/2 hour later turned the
 camera on again, indicator was at full.  After a few snaps it was at 1/2
 again.

 Does this behavior suggest that it's time to replace the bats, or something
 else.

 One of the things I was doing today was experimenting with trap focus.  I
 caught a few pix of cars coming and going.  Godfrey, I think when we were
 trying out the technique on Friday you were wondering if a car could be
 caught with the technique.  It seems that it can.

 Shel
 You meet the nicest people with a Pentax






Re: Best M42 Camera?

2005-11-03 Thread P. J. Alling
Well, I have a Spotmatic F which still has a Mercury battery in it.  
It's, (the battery),  got to be at least 10 years old...


frank theriault wrote:


On 11/3/05, Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 


My choice is the Spotmatic F.
   



A lot of people seem to be choosing the F.  The only thing I wouldn't
like about it is that the meter's on when the lenscap's off.  That
means the battery's constantly draining, and if you leave the cap off
when you're done...

I'd choose the SPII.  Stop-down metering doesn't bother me a bit, and
you still get the hotshoe.

-frank

--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson


 




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	Run in circles, (scream and shout).




Re: *ist-DS saving zero-byte files occasionally.

2005-11-03 Thread Charles Robinson

On Nov 3, 2005, at 2:02, David Oswald wrote:


I review a few of the day's shots on the camera's viewscreen.  One  
shot will come up as Image cannot be displayed (or something like  
that). When I look at it on my computer, I find that particular  
image is just a filename, but the file itself is zero bytes long.




[snip!]


Has anyone else experienced this behavior on their *ist-DS?



I'll get this when the batteries are nearly exhausted (RCR-V3s).   
Their voltage never sags enough to show that they are waning (battery  
indicator stays on full) but they lack the amperage.  My clue will be  
that I'll either take a shot and not get my preview, or I'll push the  
shutter button and nothing happens.


 -Charles

--
Charles Robinson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Minneapolis, MN
http://charles.robinsontwins.org



Re: PESO: The scene of an accident.

2005-11-03 Thread P. J. Alling
There have been photographically ddocumented incidents of people jumping 
onto buses after accidents in New York.


Kenneth Waller wrote:


Neat looking bus, but I don't see any damage.

There was a similar incident a while ago, in Minneapolis, I believe, where 
after a bus accident, more people showed up claiming injury, than were actually 
on it at the time of the incident.

Kenneth Waller

-Original Message-
From: David Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PESO: The scene of an accident.

Los Angeles introduced a new bus line on the 29th of October.  It is a 
rapid line that runs on a road all its own called Busway, thorough the 
middle of the San Fernando Valley, connecting Woodland Hills / Warner 
Center with the Metrolink subway system starting in North Hollywood. 
The busyway has synchronized traffic lights that keep the bus moving all 
the time.  This means that as the busline road crosses major streets, 
traffic stops on those surface roads.


I rode the Orange Line today as a novelty, to see how the experience was 
going to be.  My wife came with me.  We had been on the bus for less 
than two minutes, when suddenly it was struck by a fast moving car that 
ran its red light.  The car broadsided the bus.  The car was seriously 
damaged, and driver taken to the hospital in critical condition (she was 
later upgraded to stable).


We were then put through a triage routine by the first responders to 
determine who (if anyone) was injured.  Mostly any injuries were just 
people pretending to be injured, thinking their gravy train had come in. 
 Despicable really.  Anyway, it held us all up by about 90 minutes. 
Fortunately I had my camera.


Taken with the *ist-DS, and the DA16-45 lens

http://users.adelphia.net/~daoswald/pictures/index.html

Warning: It's about 4.5 megabytes of photos that will load.

I posted the pictures quickly because a woman riding on the bus with us 
is married to a reporter.  Quickly he was on the cell with me requesting 
any of the pictures I took.  ...I had to remove the ones where my wife 
was posing, smiling next to the firefighters.  It seemed a little 
inappropriate after the fact. ;)


Dave




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Re: Battery Behavior - istDS

2005-11-03 Thread P. J. Alling

Only if you're using an A lens.

Doug Franklin wrote:


On Wed, 2 Nov 2005 23:55:44 -0800, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

 


Earlier today I noticed the indicator was at half.  Turned off the
camera for a while as I wasn't snapping any pix, about 1/2 hour
later turned the camera on again, indicator was at full.  After a
few snaps it was at 1/2 again.
   



It means the charge in the batteries is waning.  If they're
rechargeable, I'd go ahead and recharge them.  If not, I'd keep using
them until (a) the camera acts wonky or (b) I have to shoot something I
can't miss.

 


[...] wondering if a car could be caught with [trap focus].  It
seems that it can.
   



It surely can.  I've used a number of lenses that way with my ZX-5 and
MZ-S.  I haven't tried it with the *ist D yet.  The thing to beware of
is that the point of focus often isn't what you want it to be due, I
think, to the lock time (the time between the camera realizing
something has come into focus and the actual tripping of the shutter). 
Often, I find that the main plane of focus will be a little behind

where the car came into focus, measured in the direction of the car's
travel.  With the MZ-S and *ist D there are enough focal points in the
AF system that you should be able to select one that will get the
actual plane of focus about where you want it.

TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ



 




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	Run in circles, (scream and shout).




Re: Best M42 Camera?

2005-11-03 Thread P. J. Alling

Mat Maessen wrote:


For a newer camera, it almost makes sense to get something like a
ZX-5n and semi-permanently mount an M42 adapter to it. No matrix
metering, but you do get the full center weighted, motor drive
integrated, etc. Only downside is stop-down metering, but if you're ok
with that, you're set.

Does the Bessaflex do open-aperture metering with screwmount lenses
that support it?

-Mat
 


No.


On 11/3/05, Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 


If the original poster wants a brand new M42 camera, the Voigtländer
Bessaflex is available (www.cameraquest.com).  I know several people
who have bought them and really like them.
   




 




--
When you're worried or in doubt, 
	Run in circles, (scream and shout).




Re: BH Drops *istD from latest catalogue

2005-11-03 Thread Adam Maas
Blacks no longer stocks the D, only the DL until they get their stock of 
DS2's (Expected momentarily).


-Adam


P. J. Alling wrote:

Blacks was premature...  (But I assume it was good for you).

Adam Maas wrote:

Ironic, considering what I payed for mine in Sept ($899CDN with the 
D-BG grip at Blacks, on blowout)


-Adam


P. J. Alling wrote:

They stopped building them but they're not discontinued, not 
according to Pentaximaging at least.  They're priced high to keep

them in stock until the replacement is announced.

Herb Chong wrote:

i'm surprised that a camera whose manufacture was supposedly 
discontinued in February is still available so long after that.


Herb
- Original Message - From: Kenneth Waller 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: BH Drops *istD from latest catalogue



Oh, so the sky isn't falling ;)





















Re: Best M42 Camera?

2005-11-03 Thread Raimo K

Has anyone here tried the current Voigtländer Bessaflex?
All the best!
Raimo K
Personal photography homepage at:
http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho


- Original Message - 
From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 1:37 PM
Subject: Re: Best M42 Camera?



I've owned and used a number of screwmount cameras. While I liked the Fuji
801 very much, I found it a bit fragile. I broke the advance mechanism on
two of them. One got ten years of use or so and probably about 3000 rolls
of film. That's all one can expect. The second one lasted only a couple of
months. My all time favorite is the Spotmatic F. The meter isn't as
advanced as the Fuji, but the camera feels better in terms of workmanship.
And it seems to be very tough. Of course it will give you open aperture
metering with all those wonderful SMC Tak lenses. That's a very good
thing.
Paul
On Nov 2, 2005, at 11:08 PM, Andre Langevin wrote:


I kept my feet in the film camera area... but yes, why not?

Andre





Re: BH Drops *istD from latest catalogue

2005-11-03 Thread P. J. Alling

I think I made my point.

Adam Maas wrote:

Blacks no longer stocks the D, only the DL until they get their stock 
of DS2's (Expected momentarily).


-Adam


P. J. Alling wrote:


Blacks was premature...  (But I assume it was good for you).

Adam Maas wrote:

Ironic, considering what I payed for mine in Sept ($899CDN with the 
D-BG grip at Blacks, on blowout)


-Adam


P. J. Alling wrote:

They stopped building them but they're not discontinued, not 
according to Pentaximaging at least.  They're priced high to keep

them in stock until the replacement is announced.

Herb Chong wrote:

i'm surprised that a camera whose manufacture was supposedly 
discontinued in February is still available so long after that.


Herb
- Original Message - From: Kenneth Waller 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: BH Drops *istD from latest catalogue



Oh, so the sky isn't falling ;)
























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	Run in circles, (scream and shout).




Re: PESO - Herb On the Ledge

2005-11-03 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 11/2/2005 6:51:59 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
http://www.matoe.org/gallery2/v/tomatoe/catskills/006_4_0001.JPG.html
=
Nice shot! And let's us know where Herb gets those great colors. We don't 
have fall color like that in CA.

But I am with frank on this one, the one thing bugging me about the shot is 
the horizon line is in the middle. So there is an equal amount of sky and equal 
amount of trees, etc. Usually more impact is gained by having either more sky 
or more ground. Too static otherwise. So I am with frank on how to crop.

Show more please.

Never get me up that high. Or at least that close to the edge. No way, Jose.

Marnie aka Doe ;-)



Re: Battery Behavior - istDS

2005-11-03 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I thought about the focal plane of focus, and tried shooting with more and
less DOF to see what resulted.  Also used faster/slower shutter speeds. 
Didn't think about trying the matrix metering.  However, that doesn't work
on all lenses, iirc.  Only the auto focus lenses, right?  What about
regular A lenses  the M and K and other manual lenses can't use that at
all.

Shel 
You meet the nicest people with a Pentax 


 [Original Message]
 From: Doug Franklin 

  [...] wondering if a car could be caught with [trap focus].  It
  seems that it can.

 It surely can.  I've used a number of lenses that way with my ZX-5 and
 MZ-S.  I haven't tried it with the *ist D yet.  The thing to beware of
 is that the point of focus often isn't what you want it to be due, I
 think, to the lock time (the time between the camera realizing
 something has come into focus and the actual tripping of the shutter). 
 Often, I find that the main plane of focus will be a little behind
 where the car came into focus, measured in the direction of the car's
 travel.  With the MZ-S and *ist D there are enough focal points in the
 AF system that you should be able to select one that will get the
 actual plane of focus about where you want it.

 TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ





Re: Battery Behavior - istDS

2005-11-03 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Thanks Bob ...

I'll be sure to carry some spares.  I have a set, by my mind frame hasn't
completely adjusted to this battery business having not used a camera that
needed them for years, so I keep forgetting to put them in the camera bag. 
Today will be the day for that ... ;-))

Shel 
You meet the nicest people with a Pentax 


 [Original Message]
 From: Bob Sullivan

 Full = 51% to 100% full
 Half = 1% to 50% full
 Zero = SOL - make sure to carry some spares!

 On 11/3/05, Shel Belinkoff  wrote:

  Earlier today I noticed the indicator was at half.  Turned off the
camera
  for a while as I wasn't snapping any pix, about 1/2 hour later turned
the
  camera on again, indicator was at full.  After a few snaps it was at 1/2
  again.
 
  Does this behavior suggest that it's time to replace the bats, or
something
  else.




Re: Battery Behavior - istDS

2005-11-03 Thread Shel Belinkoff
The camera was weird from the day it arrived here ;-))

Shel 
You meet the nicest people with a Pentax 


 [Original Message]
 From: Paul Stenquist 

 The batteries are goners. Replace them before the camera 
 goes weirdo on you g.




Re: Battery Behavior - istDS

2005-11-03 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi,

Running them (at least this set) until they go dry seems like a good idea. 
That way I'll better know the limits of the batteries and what to expect
from the indicator.  As long as spares are in the bag, all should be well. 
As suggested in another message, for something important it might be a good
idea to switch the bats before the camera goes wonky.  Tks!

Shel 
You meet the nicest people with a Pentax 


 [Original Message]
 From: Godfrey DiGiorgi 

  Does this behavior suggest that it's time to replace the bats, or  
  something
  else.

 They're getting used up. Be sure to have a spare set of batteries in  
 your bag, you'll need them soon. Run what's in there until they go dry.




RE: *ist-DS saving zero-byte files occasionally.

2005-11-03 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi David,

I've not experienced that problem.  However, I rarely turn the camera off. 
I'm not used to doing that, so it's left on and shuts down by itself after
some predetermined amount of time.  I do this because, as I said, I'm not
used to turning cameras on and off, but also because I want the camera to
be more ready for shooting.  I don't have to remember to turn it on when I
want to make a few shots.  Perhaps not turning the camera off would be a
solution.  You really don't want to ruin an important or meaningful shot.

Shel 
You meet the nicest people with a Pentax 


 [Original Message]
 From: David Oswald 

 Over the last couple of months, on three occasions I've experienced the 
 following:

 I review a few of the day's shots on the camera's viewscreen.  One shot 
 will come up as Image cannot be displayed (or something like that). 
 When I look at it on my computer, I find that particular image is just a 
 filename, but the file itself is zero bytes long.

[...]

 I think what I'm doing is shutting the camera off by flicking its on-off 
 switch to the off position too quickly after snapping a shot.  I don't 
 know how I developed that wierd habbit, but I think it is somehow related.

 Has anyone else experienced this behavior on their *ist-DS?




Re: Battery Behavior - istDS

2005-11-03 Thread pnstenquist
Yep, that's for sure. But seriously, once the battery indicator goes to half, 
you're basically finished. You won't get another thirty or forty shots. And 
unless you're shooting junk, why risk losing a special moment to a failed 
battery? Replace them before they fail.
Paul


 The camera was weird from the day it arrived here ;-))
 
 Shel 
 You meet the nicest people with a Pentax 
 
 
  [Original Message]
  From: Paul Stenquist 
 
  The batteries are goners. Replace them before the camera 
  goes weirdo on you g.
 
 



OT: Battery Tester for nonrechargeable Lithium AA Batteries.

2005-11-03 Thread Otis C. Wright, Jr.
Anyone have experience with a good tester for nonrechargeable Lithium AA 
batteries?


Thanks in advance.

Otis Wright



Re: PESO: The scene of an accident.

2005-11-03 Thread David Oswald

We were not allowed out of the bus until after that took place.

Paul Stenquist wrote:
Another shot that would surely sell would be one of the emergency 
workers extricating the woman from the car.

Paul
On Nov 3, 2005, at 2:23 AM, Cotty wrote:


On 2/11/05, David Oswald, discombobulated, unleashed:


than two minutes, when suddenly it was struck by a fast moving car that
ran its red light.  The car broadsided the bus.  The car was seriously
damaged, and driver taken to the hospital in critical condition (she was
later upgraded to stable).

We were then put through a triage routine by the first responders to
determine who (if anyone) was injured.  Mostly any injuries were just
people pretending to be injured, thinking their gravy train had come in.
 Despicable really.  Anyway, it held us all up by about 90 minutes.
Fortunately I had my camera.

Taken with the *ist-DS, and the DA16-45 lens

http://users.adelphia.net/~daoswald/pictures/index.html



Well done David. FYI - next time (!) try and get the casualty in the same
frame as the bus  - that would have been the pic the paper would have
wanted. I know it's easy to say that, but shuffle right to the front, go
vertical, casualty and team at the bottom of frame, the front of the bus
at the top. A couple of shots rattled off before you're asked to step
back and bingo. Under the circumstances, you did well.




Cheers,
  Cotty


___/\__
||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
_









Re: PESO: The scene of an accident.

2005-11-03 Thread David Oswald
There was no damage to the bus.  She hit its wheel, and you would never 
know it looking at the bus.



Kenneth Waller wrote:

I still don't see any image of damage to the bus. Seems that would be a shot 
sure to be taken.

Kenneth Waller

-Original Message-
From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PESO: The scene of an accident.

OOPs, I commented thinking there was only one image posted! Duh

Kenneth Waller

-Original Message-
From: David Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PESO: The scene of an accident.

Los Angeles introduced a new bus line on the 29th of October.  It is a 
rapid line that runs on a road all its own called Busway, thorough the 
middle of the San Fernando Valley, connecting Woodland Hills / Warner 
Center with the Metrolink subway system starting in North Hollywood. 
The busyway has synchronized traffic lights that keep the bus moving all 
the time.  This means that as the busline road crosses major streets, 
traffic stops on those surface roads.


I rode the Orange Line today as a novelty, to see how the experience was 
going to be.  My wife came with me.  We had been on the bus for less 
than two minutes, when suddenly it was struck by a fast moving car that 
ran its red light.  The car broadsided the bus.  The car was seriously 
damaged, and driver taken to the hospital in critical condition (she was 
later upgraded to stable).


We were then put through a triage routine by the first responders to 
determine who (if anyone) was injured.  Mostly any injuries were just 
people pretending to be injured, thinking their gravy train had come in. 
  Despicable really.  Anyway, it held us all up by about 90 minutes. 
Fortunately I had my camera.


Taken with the *ist-DS, and the DA16-45 lens

http://users.adelphia.net/~daoswald/pictures/index.html

Warning: It's about 4.5 megabytes of photos that will load.

I posted the pictures quickly because a woman riding on the bus with us 
is married to a reporter.  Quickly he was on the cell with me requesting 
any of the pictures I took.  ...I had to remove the ones where my wife 
was posing, smiling next to the firefighters.  It seemed a little 
inappropriate after the fact. ;)


Dave




PeoplePC Online
A better way to Internet
http://www.peoplepc.com




PeoplePC Online
A better way to Internet
http://www.peoplepc.com






Re: PESO: The scene of an accident.

2005-11-03 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 11/3/2005 5:13:26 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 http://users.adelphia.net/~daoswald/pictures/index.html

 Warning: It's about 4.5 megabytes of photos that will load.

 I posted the pictures quickly because a woman riding on the bus with us
 is married to a reporter.  Quickly he was on the cell with me requesting
 any of the pictures I took.  ...I had to remove the ones where my wife
 was posing, smiling next to the firefighters.  It seemed a little
 inappropriate after the fact. ;)

nice series

-frank

Real visual reporting. Very nice. Though I don't think the accident was. I 
imagine you could have willingly skipped it.

Marnie aka Doe 



Re: PESO: The scene of an accident.

2005-11-03 Thread pnstenquist
I figured that was the case. You did well considering the limitations.
Paul


 We were not allowed out of the bus until after that took place.
 
 Paul Stenquist wrote:
  Another shot that would surely sell would be one of the emergency 
  workers extricating the woman from the car.
  Paul
  On Nov 3, 2005, at 2:23 AM, Cotty wrote:
  
  On 2/11/05, David Oswald, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
  than two minutes, when suddenly it was struck by a fast moving car that
  ran its red light.  The car broadsided the bus.  The car was seriously
  damaged, and driver taken to the hospital in critical condition (she was
  later upgraded to stable).
 
  We were then put through a triage routine by the first responders to
  determine who (if anyone) was injured.  Mostly any injuries were just
  people pretending to be injured, thinking their gravy train had come in.
   Despicable really.  Anyway, it held us all up by about 90 minutes.
  Fortunately I had my camera.
 
  Taken with the *ist-DS, and the DA16-45 lens
 
  http://users.adelphia.net/~daoswald/pictures/index.html
 
 
  Well done David. FYI - next time (!) try and get the casualty in the same
  frame as the bus  - that would have been the pic the paper would have
  wanted. I know it's easy to say that, but shuffle right to the front, go
  vertical, casualty and team at the bottom of frame, the front of the bus
  at the top. A couple of shots rattled off before you're asked to step
  back and bingo. Under the circumstances, you did well.
 
 
 
 
  Cheers,
Cotty
 
 
  ___/\__
  ||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
  ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
  _
 
 
  
  
 



Re: Pentax Prayer... was Nikon D200, 18-200 lens and flash system

2005-11-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

Just go buy whatever camera works for you.

Godfrey
  agnostic



Re: Best M42 Camera?

2005-11-03 Thread Andre Langevin
Do you mean early Spotmatics would not give accurate metering with a 
1.5V cell? 


Andre

Spotmatics were originally designed to use a single 1.35 volt 625 or 
PX13(?) mercury cell.  Later models were designed to give correct 
meter readings with 1.5 volt replacements as well.


Markus Maurer wrote:


Hi John
what kind of batteries do you use with the SP's?
greetings
Markus




RE: Pentax Prayer... was Nikon D200, 18-200 lens and flash system

2005-11-03 Thread Tom C

Hah.  Good for you.  I forgot about Nguyen.

Tom C.





From: Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Pentax Prayer... was Nikon D200, 18-200 lens and flash system
Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 08:37:51 -0700

And bless this basket of lenses so that it may be fruitful and multiply and 
nourish thy users.


Okay, I'm mixing up my miracles here. Its sort of like mixing metaphors.

And deliver us from the need to resort to Sigma lenses, Amen.

And protect thy servant, Nguyen.

Joe






Re: Best M42 Camera?

2005-11-03 Thread Andre Langevin

For a newer camera, it almost makes sense to get something like a
ZX-5n and semi-permanently mount an M42 adapter to it. No matrix
metering...

Mat

Matrix metering is still possible with Takumar lenses with large 
enough base where you would need to put isolating tape in very 
specific locations.


Andre



RE: Another crystal image

2005-11-03 Thread Tom C
Now that's my cup of tea there!  The 1st one seemed void or unbalanced to 
me.  This one I love!


Tom C.





From: Don Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Another crystal image
Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 09:38:58 +0200

I thought this might be interesting.

http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/hold/only003.jpg

Its a stack of five pictures. Sometimes, if one is not careful the growth 
gets a bit thick (deep) and since the depth of field is almost non-existent 
one has to resort to other means. The images were stacked with CombZ and 
had the levels slightly altered in Photoshop. No sharpening was done and 
they were 'stacked only'. I didn't measure the focus steps. The total might 
have been about 120um.


Don

--
Dr E D F Williams
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See feature: The Cement Company from Hell
Updated: Photomicro Link -- 18 05 2005






Re: Battery Behavior - istDS

2005-11-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
If you're using Lithium disposables, it's most economical to simply  
keep going with them until they stop powering the camera unless  
you're in the middle of an important shooting session and time to  
change batteries is scant. Then, pull them, put fresh ones in, and  
replace the nearly exhausted ones for the last bits of energy from  
them when things aren't so hectic.


NiMH cells get somewhat unstable when near to exhausted so I usually  
pull them for recharging when I see the indicator fluctuating a lot.


These comments are in reference to the DS model. I am not sure that  
the D responds in the same manner.


Godfrey

On Nov 3, 2005, at 8:16 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

Running them (at least this set) until they go dry seems like a  
good idea.
That way I'll better know the limits of the batteries and what to  
expect
from the indicator.  As long as spares are in the bag, all should  
be well.
As suggested in another message, for something important it might  
be a good

idea to switch the bats before the camera goes wonky.  Tks!



[Original Message]
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi



Does this behavior suggest that it's time to replace the bats, or
something
else.


They're getting used up. Be sure to have a spare set of batteries in
your bag, you'll need them soon. Run what's in there until they go  
dry.







Re: Battery Behavior - istDS

2005-11-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
With my DS and a set of CRV3 Lithiums, I get about 200-300 exposures  
once the indicator hits the half-charge point.


That's a lot of exposures to waste if you're paying $15 for a set of  
batteries.


Godfrey

On Nov 3, 2005, at 8:23 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Yep, that's for sure. But seriously, once the battery indicator  
goes to half, you're basically finished. You won't get another  
thirty or forty shots. And unless you're shooting junk, why risk  
losing a special moment to a failed battery? Replace them before  
they fail.

Paul



The camera was weird from the day it arrived here ;-))

Shel
You meet the nicest people with a Pentax



[Original Message]
From: Paul Stenquist



The batteries are goners. Replace them before the camera
goes weirdo on you g.









Re: Best M42 Camera?

2005-11-03 Thread P. J. Alling
I don't know, I've only had experience with models from the Spotmatic II 
on.  They could, but I don't know when Pentax started using the bridge 
circuitry for their meters.


Andre Langevin wrote:

Do you mean early Spotmatics would not give accurate metering with a 
1.5V cell?

Andre

Spotmatics were originally designed to use a single 1.35 volt 625 or 
PX13(?) mercury cell.  Later models were designed to give correct 
meter readings with 1.5 volt replacements as well.


Markus Maurer wrote:


Hi John
what kind of batteries do you use with the SP's?
greetings
Markus








--
When you're worried or in doubt, 
	Run in circles, (scream and shout).




Re: Battery Behavior - istDS

2005-11-03 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I am ... and shall probably continue using them well into the (foreseeable)
future.

Shel 
You meet the nicest people with a Pentax 


 [Original Message]
 From: Godfrey DiGiorgi 

 If you're using Lithium disposables, it's most economical to simply  
 keep going with them until they stop powering the camera unless  
 you're in the middle of an important shooting session and time to  
 change batteries is scant. 




Re: Pentax Prayer... was Nikon D200, 18-200 lens and flash system

2005-11-03 Thread Tom C

From: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I hope he forgives you for SAYING envfully. :-)

Anyway, can I just say that it's very encouraging to see you repenting for  
past sins, Tom.




Yes.  It should have been envyingly... which is an odd looking little word. 
I knew envfully wasn't right.  It types right though. :-)


Tom C.




Re: OT: Battery Tester for nonrechargeable Lithium AA Batteries.

2005-11-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

What's wrong with a simple voltmeter?

Godfrey

On Nov 3, 2005, at 8:23 AM, Otis C. Wright, Jr. wrote:

Anyone have experience with a good tester for nonrechargeable  
Lithium AA batteries?


Thanks in advance.

Otis Wright





Re: Battery Behavior - istDS

2005-11-03 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi Paul,

At least with this set, I'm going to run 'em until the camera craps out or
starts to behave in a strange manner.  At least that way I'll have a better
idea of what to expect, and since I'm going to be around the house for the
next couple of days, there won't be an important pix made, plus a spare set
of bats is handy.  Seems like a perfect time to experiment and learn the
limitations of the camera.  Thus far, since the 1/2 full indication was
observed, the camera has made 20 good shots.  

If I were going out with some serious shooting in mind, replacing them now
would make sense, but then I'd put the old bats back into the camera just
to test the limits.

Shel 
You meet the nicest people with a Pentax 


 [Original Message]
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Battery Behavior - istDS

 Yep, that's for sure. But seriously, once the battery indicator 
 goes to half, you're basically finished. You won't get another 
 thirty or forty shots. And unless you're shooting junk, why risk 
 losing a special moment to a failed battery? Replace them 
 before they fail.
 Paul




Re: OT: Battery Tester for nonrechargeable Lithium AA Batteries.

2005-11-03 Thread P. J. Alling

That's what I'd use.  OTOH maybe he wants to test them under load.

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:


What's wrong with a simple voltmeter?

Godfrey

On Nov 3, 2005, at 8:23 AM, Otis C. Wright, Jr. wrote:

Anyone have experience with a good tester for nonrechargeable  
Lithium AA batteries?


Thanks in advance.

Otis Wright







--
When you're worried or in doubt, 
	Run in circles, (scream and shout).




Re: Battery Behavior - istDS

2005-11-03 Thread pnstenquist
I've found that I sometimes will get 200 exposures from half full lithiums. 
But not always. In nearly two years with the *istD, I've learned that the 
camera can go wonkers at any time once the battery indicator drops to the half 
full point. Admittedly, serious problems are rare, but they happen any time 
voltage is a bit down. I rarely find myself shooting anything that I don't want 
or need, so I'm not going to risk failure, even for an extra 200 exposure. I 
now use AA lithiums rather than the CRV3, since I've found the performance 
virtually identical. Nearly expended batteries are used to power toys, radios, 
or sometimes even a flash unit.
Paul


 With my DS and a set of CRV3 Lithiums, I get about 200-300 exposures  
 once the indicator hits the half-charge point.
 
 That's a lot of exposures to waste if you're paying $15 for a set of  
 batteries.
 
 Godfrey
 
 On Nov 3, 2005, at 8:23 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Yep, that's for sure. But seriously, once the battery indicator  
  goes to half, you're basically finished. You won't get another  
  thirty or forty shots. And unless you're shooting junk, why risk  
  losing a special moment to a failed battery? Replace them before  
  they fail.
  Paul
 
 
  The camera was weird from the day it arrived here ;-))
 
  Shel
  You meet the nicest people with a Pentax
 
 
  [Original Message]
  From: Paul Stenquist
 
  The batteries are goners. Replace them before the camera
  goes weirdo on you g.
 
 
 
 



Re: Battery Behavior - istDS

2005-11-03 Thread pnstenquist
That makes sense. I'll be interested in hearing how long those batteries last.
Paul


 Hi Paul,
 
 At least with this set, I'm going to run 'em until the camera craps out or
 starts to behave in a strange manner.  At least that way I'll have a better
 idea of what to expect, and since I'm going to be around the house for the
 next couple of days, there won't be an important pix made, plus a spare set
 of bats is handy.  Seems like a perfect time to experiment and learn the
 limitations of the camera.  Thus far, since the 1/2 full indication was
 observed, the camera has made 20 good shots.  
 
 If I were going out with some serious shooting in mind, replacing them now
 would make sense, but then I'd put the old bats back into the camera just
 to test the limits.
 
 Shel 
 You meet the nicest people with a Pentax 
 
 
  [Original Message]
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: Battery Behavior - istDS
 
  Yep, that's for sure. But seriously, once the battery indicator 
  goes to half, you're basically finished. You won't get another 
  thirty or forty shots. And unless you're shooting junk, why risk 
  losing a special moment to a failed battery? Replace them 
  before they fail.
  Paul
 
 



Re: Best M42 Camera?

2005-11-03 Thread Dario Bonazza
According to Gene Poon, ALL Spotmatics use a bridge circuitry, hence no 
problems at all with 1.5V batteries.

http://www.aohc.it/batte.htm

Dario

- Original Message - 
From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: Best M42 Camera?


I don't know, I've only had experience with models from the Spotmatic II 
on.  They could, but I don't know when Pentax started using the bridge 
circuitry for their meters.


Andre Langevin wrote:

Do you mean early Spotmatics would not give accurate metering with a 1.5V 
cell?

Andre

Spotmatics were originally designed to use a single 1.35 volt 625 or 
PX13(?) mercury cell.  Later models were designed to give correct meter 
readings with 1.5 volt replacements as well.


Markus Maurer wrote:


Hi John
what kind of batteries do you use with the SP's?
greetings
Markus








--
When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).





Re: OT: Battery Tester for nonrechargeable Lithium AA Batteries.

2005-11-03 Thread pnstenquist
I would guess even an almost depleted battery will show nearly full voltage 
with no load. The problem is that testing is a catch 22. If you provide 
adequate load to really test the batteries, you'll drain them.
Paul


 That's what I'd use.  OTOH maybe he wants to test them under load.
 
 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
 
  What's wrong with a simple voltmeter?
 
  Godfrey
 
  On Nov 3, 2005, at 8:23 AM, Otis C. Wright, Jr. wrote:
 
  Anyone have experience with a good tester for nonrechargeable  
  Lithium AA batteries?
 
  Thanks in advance.
 
  Otis Wright
 
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 When you're worried or in doubt, 
   Run in circles, (scream and shout).
 



Re: OT: Battery Tester for nonrechargeable Lithium AA Batteries.

2005-11-03 Thread Otis C. Wright, Jr.
Nothing, if you understand what you get when you read open circuit 
voltage and these results are acceptable for your application.  Depends 
on the accuracy you want.   My experience has been that testing 
batteries under load  gives more accurate indication of status.I 
could, but am not interested in doing so, assemble a load/meter combo 
using the manufacturers data.   Assembly is relatively easy.  
Calibration/test and packaging for field use takes time I'd rather spend 
doing something else.  I was looking for a prepackaged reasonable 
quality unit for field use in assessing cells used randomly in a 
standby/backup application.


Otis Wright

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:


What's wrong with a simple voltmeter?

Godfrey

On Nov 3, 2005, at 8:23 AM, Otis C. Wright, Jr. wrote:

Anyone have experience with a good tester for nonrechargeable  
Lithium AA batteries?


Thanks in advance.

Otis Wright








Re: Battery Behavior - istDS

2005-11-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Sounds like the D's behavior under low-voltage is quite different  
from the DS. All I can tell you is that I've had no problems at all,  
taking exposures right up to the point where the camera literally  
shuts down from lack of power.


Godfrey

On Nov 3, 2005, at 9:09 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I've found that I sometimes will get 200 exposures from half full  
lithiums. But not always. In nearly two years with the *istD, I've  
learned that the camera can go wonkers at any time once the battery  
indicator drops to the half full point. Admittedly, serious  
problems are rare, but they happen any time voltage is a bit down.  
I rarely find myself shooting anything that I don't want or need,  
so I'm not going to risk failure, even for an extra 200 exposure. I  
now use AA lithiums rather than the CRV3, since I've found the  
performance virtually identical. Nearly expended batteries are used  
to power toys, radios, or sometimes even a flash unit.




Re: OT: Battery Tester for nonrechargeable Lithium AA Batteries.

2005-11-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Perhaps I don't understand the circumstances of your need adequately.  
It's certainly too much trouble for my uses to test and measure  
battery status.


Whenever I buy batteries, particularly Li disposables, I put a date  
on them and put them into my battery box. I know Li disposables have  
a 6-7 year shelf life ... after a year, they will rarely have lost  
more than 5% total capacity. I rarely do this, but if I have been  
using a particular set and taken it out of the camera, I mark it with  
a red dot to say partially used. The reason I rarely do this is  
that it's generally speaking not common to just swap batteries in and  
out with Li disposables. Most of the time you just keep them in the  
camera until they are exhausted and replace them.


When putting together equipment for a trip or field session and  
counting on Li disposables, I just make sure I have an appropriate  
number of unused new batteries as backup. I've never been caught out.


Godfrey


On Nov 3, 2005, at 9:19 AM, Otis C. Wright, Jr. wrote:

Nothing, if you understand what you get when you read open circuit  
voltage and these results are acceptable for your application.   
Depends on the accuracy you want.   My experience has been that  
testing batteries under load  gives more accurate indication of  
status.I could, but am not interested in doing so, assemble a  
load/meter combo using the manufacturers data.   Assembly is  
relatively easy.  Calibration/test and packaging for field use  
takes time I'd rather spend doing something else.  I was  
looking for a prepackaged reasonable quality unit for field use in  
assessing cells used randomly in a standby/backup application.


Otis Wright

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:


What's wrong with a simple voltmeter?

Godfrey

On Nov 3, 2005, at 8:23 AM, Otis C. Wright, Jr. wrote:

Anyone have experience with a good tester for nonrechargeable   
Lithium AA batteries?


Thanks in advance.

Otis Wright










Re: Pentax Prayer... was Nikon D200, 18-200 lens and flash system

2005-11-03 Thread frank theriault
On 11/3/05, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Just go buy whatever camera works for you.

 Godfrey
agnostic

the last thing we need around here is a Voice of Reason.

-frank
--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Hmmm, something fishy about this guy....

2005-11-03 Thread Cotty
My lad was searching the internet as part of a school project and came
across this page - didn't know it existed!

http://www.users.waitrose.com/~greenwitney/recent.html




Cheers,
  Cotty


___/\__
||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
_




Re: BH Drops *istD from latest catalogue

2005-11-03 Thread frank theriault
On 11/3/05, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I think I made my point.

you did

-frank


--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: Hmmm, something fishy about this guy....

2005-11-03 Thread frank theriault
On 11/3/05, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 My lad was searching the internet as part of a school project and came
 across this page - didn't know it existed!

 http://www.users.waitrose.com/~greenwitney/recent.html





they look like a fun group.

-frank


--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: Pentax Prayer... was Nikon D200, 18-200 lens and flash system

2005-11-03 Thread Cotty
On 3/11/05, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:

Just go buy whatever camera works for you.

Godfrey
   agnostic

A Canon.

Cotty

Satanist



Re: Hmmm, something fishy about this guy....

2005-11-03 Thread Cotty
On 3/11/05, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:

they look like a fun group.

LOL!

I think that was about 18 months ago. IIRC, it was one of those
situations I would willingly have swapped for bamboo under the fingernails.




Cheers,
  Cotty


___/\__
||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
_




Re: Hmmm, something fishy about this guy....

2005-11-03 Thread frank theriault
On 11/3/05, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 LOL!

 I think that was about 18 months ago. IIRC, it was one of those
 situations I would willingly have swapped for bamboo under the fingernails.

looks like you were having as much fun as they were.  at least you
were getting paid.

-frank


--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: Pentax Prayer... was Nikon D200, 18-200 lens and flash system

2005-11-03 Thread frank theriault
On 11/3/05, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 A Canon.

 Cotty

 Satanist

oh,

a defector, eh??

g,dr

-frank

--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: PDML Map

2005-11-03 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Juan Buhler wrote:
 
 Why would you say that? Unless you write your email of physical
 address or phone number there, there's no way someone could send you
 spam.
 
 j

I meant that the concept of this thing sprung up
on the internet as you
and someone totally unrelated to you discovered it
- there has to be
a reason beyond isn't this cute for it to exist,
Juan - I originally
thought that you had designed it all yourself.  

at the very least, someone is using it as a
marketing tool - a way, perhaps, 
of finding the densest population of people
involved in specific endeavours
for targeting sales - be it on internet or
elsewhere.

ann

 
 On 11/2/05, Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  frank theriault wrote:
  
   On 10/27/05, Juan Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi list,
   
I found Frappr, a site that uses Google maps to let people place
themselves in the world. It is organized in groups, so people from
various internet communities can map where they are.
   
I started a PDML map there. Go to
   
http://www.frappr.com/pdml
   
And map yourself, if you care to do so. No need (or possibility) to
add an exact address, so privacy should not be a problem.
   
Let's see where we all are!
   
j
  
   i made my entry last week sometime, but i thought i'd bump this back
   up to the top of the list.  anyone else that may have missed this the
   last time?
  
   it's fun!
  
   -frank
  
  Well I thought how cute at first, then someone
  from my Scrabble list
  posted the same kind of thing...
 
  sounds like another insidious way to gather info
  for spamming now -
  all me paranoid :)
 
  ann
 
 
 
   --
   Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson
 
 
 
 --
 Juan Buhler
 http://www.jbuhler.com
 photoblog at http://photoblog.jbuhler.com



Re: Hmmm, something fishy about this guy....

2005-11-03 Thread Cotty
On 3/11/05, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:

looks like you were having as much fun as they were.  at least you
were getting paid.

I was considering asking the old biddy if I could borrow her chair for a
tracking shot ;-)




Cheers,
  Cotty


___/\__
||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
_




Re: Hmmm, something fishy about this guy....

2005-11-03 Thread Christian


- Original Message - 
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]

LOL!

I think that was about 18 months ago. IIRC, it was one of those
situations I would willingly have swapped for bamboo under the 
fingernails.


A, there you are  The images are so small on my screen that I didn't 
see you first time I looked...
Christian 



Re: OT: Battery Tester for nonrechargeable Lithium AA Batteries.

2005-11-03 Thread Otis C. Wright, Jr.
Understand.   Your approach makes sense for you requirement.  In my 
case, the cells are in reserve/backup circuit. Load is applied randomly 
for varying period.  There is no meaningful indication over a given 
period how much capacity has been used, etc. etc.


Otis Wright

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

Perhaps I don't understand the circumstances of your need adequately.  
It's certainly too much trouble for my uses to test and measure  
battery status.


Whenever I buy batteries, particularly Li disposables, I put a date  
on them and put them into my battery box. I know Li disposables have  
a 6-7 year shelf life ... after a year, they will rarely have lost  
more than 5% total capacity. I rarely do this, but if I have been  
using a particular set and taken it out of the camera, I mark it with  
a red dot to say partially used. The reason I rarely do this is  
that it's generally speaking not common to just swap batteries in and  
out with Li disposables. Most of the time you just keep them in the  
camera until they are exhausted and replace them.


When putting together equipment for a trip or field session and  
counting on Li disposables, I just make sure I have an appropriate  
number of unused new batteries as backup. I've never been caught out.


Godfrey


On Nov 3, 2005, at 9:19 AM, Otis C. Wright, Jr. wrote:

Nothing, if you understand what you get when you read open circuit  
voltage and these results are acceptable for your application.   
Depends on the accuracy you want.   My experience has been that  
testing batteries under load  gives more accurate indication of  
status.I could, but am not interested in doing so, assemble a  
load/meter combo using the manufacturers data.   Assembly is  
relatively easy.  Calibration/test and packaging for field use  takes 
time I'd rather spend doing something else.  I was  looking for a 
prepackaged reasonable quality unit for field use in  assessing cells 
used randomly in a standby/backup application.


Otis Wright

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:


What's wrong with a simple voltmeter?

Godfrey

On Nov 3, 2005, at 8:23 AM, Otis C. Wright, Jr. wrote:

Anyone have experience with a good tester for nonrechargeable   
Lithium AA batteries?


Thanks in advance.

Otis Wright













Re: Battery Behavior - istDS

2005-11-03 Thread P. J. Alling
I have a D and with NiHMs the behavior is quite stable, the camera works 
perfectly until the voltage falls low enough then it simply shuts down.  
The only time I've had it become wonky was in extreme cold conditions, 
then it behaved very strangely and then shut down, the batteries were 
far from exhausted after they warmed up.


Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

Sounds like the D's behavior under low-voltage is quite different  
from the DS. All I can tell you is that I've had no problems at all,  
taking exposures right up to the point where the camera literally  
shuts down from lack of power.


Godfrey

On Nov 3, 2005, at 9:09 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I've found that I sometimes will get 200 exposures from half full  
lithiums. But not always. In nearly two years with the *istD, I've  
learned that the camera can go wonkers at any time once the battery  
indicator drops to the half full point. Admittedly, serious  problems 
are rare, but they happen any time voltage is a bit down.  I rarely 
find myself shooting anything that I don't want or need,  so I'm not 
going to risk failure, even for an extra 200 exposure. I  now use AA 
lithiums rather than the CRV3, since I've found the  performance 
virtually identical. Nearly expended batteries are used  to power 
toys, radios, or sometimes even a flash unit.







--
When you're worried or in doubt, 
	Run in circles, (scream and shout).




Re: Pentax Prayer... was Nikon D200, 18-200 lens and flash system

2005-11-03 Thread tomreese
 On 3/11/05, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 Just go buy whatever camera works for you.
 
 Godfrey
agnostic
 
 A Canon.
 
 Cotty
 
 Satanist
 

No camera will work for you.

Tom

Atheist





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