Re: CS>FDA Announces Plan to Eliminate Vitamin Companies
What if it isn't really about terrorist attacks? Hey, is this the CS site? Faith G. - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 11:29 AM Subject: Re: CS>FDA Announces Plan to Eliminate Vitamin Companies Yeah, that "no terrorist attacks on US soil for the past 7 years" doesn't count for anything...other than that we're still alive to debate the finer points of education, free universal health care, big Pharma, and all the wonders of moving to an even bigger nanny-state government under the oh-so-compassionate socialist opposition... bbanever wrote: = Ode, Sorry ole buddy, but if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck,... well he's a duck. The all time WORST duck in the history of this great country I might add. Cheers. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re: CS & blood brain barrier
Thanks Marshall. Faith G. - Original Message - From: "Marshall Dudley" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 12:11 PM Subject: Re: CS>Re: CS & blood brain barrier faith gagne wrote: Is there milk in the brain? Faith G. Follow the logic. Milk contains lactose. When milk ferments, lactose becomes lactic acid. Ionic silver will combine with lactic acid and produce silver lactate. IF silver lactate can cross the barrier, then adding CS to milk that has slightly soured could be a problem. Marshall - Original Message - From: "Tad Winiecki" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 5:27 AM Subject: Re: CS>Re: CS & blood brain barrier On Jan 21, 2008, at 12:49 PM, faith gagne wrote: What kind of a problem? Faith G. - Original Message - From: "Tad Winiecki" Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 7:18 AM Subject: Re: CS>Re: CS & blood brain barrier ] I looked at old files on my old computer no longer used on the internet and found a file like this. It said Silver nitrates and lactates were a problem. I wonder what this would mean about putting CS in milk? Nancy They were implicated in causing silver to cross the blood-brain barrier. There is no blood in the brain itself, only spinal fluid. There they could build up in various parts of the brain. I could go look at my computer again, it would be hard to hook it back up to a phone line but I could see who wrote the email and the date. Nancy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>
I thought Frankie was right and Linda's response confirmed it. Faith G - Original Message - From: Carol Ann To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 10:50 AM Subject: Re: CS> Hi Linda, Chuckling alright. :) I will also add - that Ken is the last person in the world that anyone should feel that they would have to speak up for or defend, so to speak. Linda Ellis wrote: Now, see, this response to Ode is a prime example of a knee-jerk reaction! I think anybody on this list who has paid any attention at all to Ode's writings must be chuckling at this! Of all the people I've known in my life, Ode would be in the TOP TEN of people who don't believe "we" need "looking after"! Frankie, spend a little more time and pay a little more attention to the context of Ode's writings. Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think.. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html -- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.
Re: CS>
Wear a bib. Faith G. - Original Message - From: "Linda Ellis" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 10:57 AM Subject: Re: CS> --- Carol Ann wrote: Hi Linda, Chuckling alright. :) I will also add - that Ken is the last person in the world that anyone should feel that they would have to speak up for or defend, so to speak. You're absolutely right, Carol Ann! It was just so funny to me that anybody would think Ode had that viewpoint that I just about spit out my milk when I read it! Linda Ellis wrote: Now, see, this response to Ode is a prime example of a knee-jerk reaction! I think anybody on this list who has paid any attention at all to Ode's writings must be chuckling at this! Of all the people I've known in my life, Ode would be in the TOP TEN of people who don't believe "we" need "looking after"! Frankie, spend a little more time and pay a little more attention to the context of Ode's writings. Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think.. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. Linda The Truly Educated Never Graduate -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>FDA Announces Plan to Eliminate Vitamin Companies
Right on. Faith G. - Original Message - From: "bbanever" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 10:58 AM Subject: Re: CS>FDA Announces Plan to Eliminate Vitamin Companies Ode, Sorry ole buddy, but if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck,... well he's a duck. The all time WORST duck in the history of this great country I might add. Cheers. - Original Message - From: "Ode Coyote" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 6:58 AM Subject: RE: CS>FDA Announces Plan to Eliminate Vitamin Companies At 07:30 AM 1/21/2008 -0800, you wrote: Ode Coyote wrote: >>Bush takes blame without protest. Yup, and so must the serial killer or embezzler when all evidence proves him guilty. It's rare that there aren't more key players involved in embezzlement schemes. The old guard Mafia always took care of the paisans who took the heat and protected the family. >I've not seen him point a finger to those who really did the screwing >up...not that he's never screwed up. [EVERYBODY screws up ] Amazing. >People place all the power on his head making him king. >If a king isn't perfect, he must be evil. >Then when he doesn't have that power, he gets the blame and the > >Label. >BAD king! YES. BAD KING!! BAD DOG! when it's had training yet still poops on the floor, as if it didn't. . It's just they way it isthe crown comes with thorns for those aggressively lobby to wear it. ## There are an awful lot of people who will poop on a floor and point to the dog. Some messes are so crusty and old that the dog can't lick them up... and finding the original pooper leads to a grave yard somewhere. Can't make a dead person clean up anything. Getting someone else to admit a mistake is rarely relevant to solutions to problems, but people who focus on fault over solutions cannot see that, so who-so-ever that doesn't engage in the blame game appears guilty...and if the problem is difficult to solve, incompetent. GWB is a "problem solver" mentality. How good he is at is debatable...but it is clear that he regularly accepts responsibility that blamers hand him without complaint. He may or may not be a dim bulb, but the fellow does have "class" [not much polish ] He's been handed some really BIG problems that others have ignored for decades upon decades, because they ARE REALLY BIG PROBLEMS. Sure, someone else may have handled them better, but I seriously doubt that any of them would not have made some serious mistakes when facing such catch 22 style situations where there's just no way to win. OF COURSE he's damned. It's a *damned if you do and damned if you don't* situation and GWB waded right on in. That's "class". OF COURSE he doesn't know what he's doing. If anyone knew, there would not have been a problem. OF COURSE no one else gets the blame for those problems...they "avoided" them. The turkeys just flew out of the alligator pond leaving it for the next turkey. But GWB didn't, so he's stupid. Well, he does "look" stupid, but looks can also be deceiving. Hard to say, but it took a lot of "smart looking" people to pile those problems up so high by stepping around them for so long. So, while pointing blame fingers will make someone appear smart, it doesn't solve any problems, therefore, only someone willing to look stupid will even attempt the job. Enter GWB looking like a stupid turkey, standing in the midst of an ocean of evasive alligators looking smart with all those pointy fingers. Only time will tell that whole story, but there's an old fable about the country bumpkin lawyer in "overhauls" pulling the pants off the city slicker lawyer whos' been lulled into believing his opponent is an idiot. That would be a Texan tradition.. where it's not at all rare to get cut to ribbons by what "looks like" a dull blade. One cannot judge a Texan by his dung covert cover -alls. Remember who GWBs daddy is and what secrets he might know that nearly no one else in the entire world does. GWB doesn't HAVE to be smart, just there looking dumb, a distraction...a fall guy running an apparent show while the real show runs in a darker screening room full of spooks. It could well be that only his job is TO take blame. Remember how he got elected the first time? Rats in closets anyone? You suppose that *no one* was aware of potentials growing for decades? You can't see SPOOKS. If you can, they aren't good spooks. I'll bet this movie has a really twisty sub plot...so *sub* that we may never even hear that it existed. If you do see spooks, they were placed there for you to see so you won't see spooks. A "population" rarely has a clue and it ***doesn't want one***...but all-ways believes it does on both counts. OF COURSE it will be "gone around" using that very desire as the means to go around it. If an enemy is scattered all over the place, the only way to fight it is to attract it to a location using like kinds. [Birds and
Re: CS>FDA Announces Plan to Eliminate Vitamin Companies
At least Mr. B. has stopped drinking and smoking pot. Or so it is rumored. I saw our president speaking on tv to an elderly woman who told him she is working 3 jobs to survive. His laughing response was: "When do you find time to sleep?" Do you suppose he slipped her five on the side? Oh no, he couldn't have. He doesn't carry cash. How come you get to post such lnng posts? Faith G. - Original Message - From: "Ode Coyote" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 9:58 AM Subject: RE: CS>FDA Announces Plan to Eliminate Vitamin Companies At 07:30 AM 1/21/2008 -0800, you wrote: Ode Coyote wrote: >>Bush takes blame without protest. Yup, and so must the serial killer or embezzler when all evidence proves him guilty. It's rare that there aren't more key players involved in embezzlement schemes. The old guard Mafia always took care of the paisans who took the heat and protected the family. >I've not seen him point a finger to those who really did the screwing >up...not that he's never screwed up. [EVERYBODY screws up ] Amazing. >People place all the power on his head making him king. >If a king isn't perfect, he must be evil. >Then when he doesn't have that power, he gets the blame and the >Label. >BAD king! YES. BAD KING!! BAD DOG! when it's had training yet still poops on the floor, as if it didn't. . It's just they way it isthe crown comes with thorns for those aggressively lobby to wear it. ## There are an awful lot of people who will poop on a floor and point to the dog. Some messes are so crusty and old that the dog can't lick them up... and finding the original pooper leads to a grave yard somewhere. Can't make a dead person clean up anything. Getting someone else to admit a mistake is rarely relevant to solutions to problems, but people who focus on fault over solutions cannot see that, so who-so-ever that doesn't engage in the blame game appears guilty...and if the problem is difficult to solve, incompetent. GWB is a "problem solver" mentality. How good he is at is debatable...but it is clear that he regularly accepts responsibility that blamers hand him without complaint. He may or may not be a dim bulb, but the fellow does have "class" [not much polish ] He's been handed some really BIG problems that others have ignored for decades upon decades, because they ARE REALLY BIG PROBLEMS. Sure, someone else may have handled them better, but I seriously doubt that any of them would not have made some serious mistakes when facing such catch 22 style situations where there's just no way to win. OF COURSE he's damned. It's a *damned if you do and damned if you don't* situation and GWB waded right on in. That's "class". OF COURSE he doesn't know what he's doing. If anyone knew, there would not have been a problem. OF COURSE no one else gets the blame for those problems...they "avoided" them. The turkeys just flew out of the alligator pond leaving it for the next turkey. But GWB didn't, so he's stupid. Well, he does "look" stupid, but looks can also be deceiving. Hard to say, but it took a lot of "smart looking" people to pile those problems up so high by stepping around them for so long. So, while pointing blame fingers will make someone appear smart, it doesn't solve any problems, therefore, only someone willing to look stupid will even attempt the job. Enter GWB looking like a stupid turkey, standing in the midst of an ocean of evasive alligators looking smart with all those pointy fingers. Only time will tell that whole story, but there's an old fable about the country bumpkin lawyer in "overhauls" pulling the pants off the city slicker lawyer whos' been lulled into believing his opponent is an idiot. That would be a Texan tradition.. where it's not at all rare to get cut to ribbons by what "looks like" a dull blade. One cannot judge a Texan by his dung covert cover -alls. Remember who GWBs daddy is and what secrets he might know that nearly no one else in the entire world does. GWB doesn't HAVE to be smart, just there looking dumb, a distraction...a fall guy running an apparent show while the real show runs in a darker screening room full of spooks. It could well be that only his job is TO take blame. Remember how he got elected the first time? Rats in closets anyone? You suppose that *no one* was aware of potentials growing for decades? You can't see SPOOKS. If you can, they aren't good spooks. I'll bet this movie has a really twisty sub plot...so *sub* that we may never even hear that it existed. If you do see spooks, they were placed there for you to see so you won't see spooks. A "population" rarely has a clue and it ***doesn't want one***...but all-ways believes it does on both counts. OF COURSE it will be "gone around" using that very desire as the means to go around it. If an enemy is scattered all over the place, the only way to fight it is to attract it to
Re: CS>
AGreed. Faith G. - Original Message - From: joe bloggs To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 8:43 AM Subject: CS> Ode wrote: .The FDA was formed to get a handle on Cocaine and Opium Patent Medicine salesmen. Their job was to ensure drug safety because the people were too dumb to not buy into that stuff and needed that protection -- Sorry Ode, but your take on human nature is a bit tainted. I mean, where did you get the idea that we all need 'looking after'? I can fend quite well for myself thank you very much and can well do without the Government or any other regulatory body telling me what is 'for my own good'. How insulting. I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels like this. In fact, it is precisely the control freaks and manipulators that have brainwashed people into believing that they cannot make decisions for themselves. Please don't buy into that pretence, or repeat the misinformation. Thanks. Frankie -- Sounds like? How many syllables? Guess and win prizes with Search Charades!
Re: CS>CS/EIS forced with baking soda/salt
Anyone can make silver. Buy a generator that you can understand and follow the instructions. I've looked at a few and I have not seen one that recommends using salt nor baking soda. Using salt or baking soda seem like strange ideas. Faith G. - Original Message - From: "Dee " To: Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 8:21 AM Subject: Re: CS>CS/EIS forced with baking soda/salt So this gives the lie that 'anyone' can make silver? And this is the reason I didn't go for making my own, as I, along with millions of others am one of these! Dee ---Original Message---> Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re: CS & blood brain barrier
Is there milk in the brain? Faith G. - Original Message - From: "Tad Winiecki" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 5:27 AM Subject: Re: CS>Re: CS & blood brain barrier On Jan 21, 2008, at 12:49 PM, faith gagne wrote: What kind of a problem? Faith G. - Original Message - From: "Tad Winiecki" Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 7:18 AM Subject: Re: CS>Re: CS & blood brain barrier ] I looked at old files on my old computer no longer used on the internet and found a file like this. It said Silver nitrates and lactates were a problem. I wonder what this would mean about putting CS in milk? Nancy They were implicated in causing silver to cross the blood-brain barrier. There is no blood in the brain itself, only spinal fluid. There they could build up in various parts of the brain. I could go look at my computer again, it would be hard to hook it back up to a phone line but I could see who wrote the email and the date. Nancy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Multi Vitamin and Mineral
Supplements may make urine more yellow, but that has nothing to do with the good the supplements do as they pass through the body. Faith G. - Original Message - From: KENNETH TUURI To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 3:35 AM Subject: Re: CS>Multi Vitamin and Mineral Hi Faith. I do realize a cup of water is different from hot stomach acid. But I was under the impression (and maybe wrongly so) that there is alot stuff out there in pill or tablet form that will not break down and go right through our bodies. I am open to correction and all thing possible. There seems to be a weath of knowledge on the list and at the moment I'm a sponge trying to soak it up. Ken - Original Message - From: faith gagne Date: Monday, January 21, 2008 12:44 pm Subject: Re: CS>Multi Vitamin and Mineral To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Hi Ken. A cup of water may be a bit different from hot > stomach acid. Faith G. > > > - Original Message - > From: KENNETH TUURI > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 11:59 PM > Subject: Re: CS>Multi Vitamin and Mineral > > > nu-life Ultimate One is in Canada not sure about the USA. > One of the things I do with any vit. or supplement I take > is to put one in a cup of water and see how long it takes to > desolve. It may not be scientific but it gives me an idea if a > product will break down easy. > > > Ken >
Re: CS>Multi Vitamin and Mineral
Hi Ken. A cup of water may be a bit different from hot stomach acid. Faith G. - Original Message - From: KENNETH TUURI To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 11:59 PM Subject: Re: CS>Multi Vitamin and Mineral nu-life Ultimate One is in Canada not sure about the USA. One of the things I do with any vit. or supplement I take is to put one in a cup of water and see how long it takes to desolve. It may not be scientific but it gives me an idea if a product will break down easy. Ken
Re: CS>Girl in Trouble
Hi. why is her father not giving her CS? It is my understanding that CS is non-toxic and won't interfere with her other meds. I'd be giving it to her by the cup ful all day long. Well, maybe as much as I could get into her. Faith G. - Original Message - From: "hj" To: Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 11:28 AM Subject: CS>Girl in Trouble Hi all: Just came home from visiting a friend whom I haven't seen for a while. He told me that his teenage daughter got infected with e-coli around Thanksgiving. A doctor sent her home with antibiotics, but she got worse, and had to be taken to the hospital. He said she lost control of her bowels and a green "soup" came out of her. They found that her liver has been attacked by the bacteria. She's been in ICU for the past three weeks, and had to have several blood transfusions. She's on a breathing machine now as her lungs have collapsed due to fluid build up. They did a biopsy on her liver, and it appears to be clean now, but they are still finding the bacteria in the lung fluid they are draining via tubes. Her father is ready to try anything, even if it means to sneak stuff by the hospital staff. She's able to take a few sips of fluid a day, and I thought of MMS, but on an empty stomach? I thought of maybe applying it over her chest mixed with DMSO, but the thought of her having to throw up gives me the scares? What about a magnetic pulser, or Godzilla-type unit? May I ask for your thoughts please? Thank you all, Heidi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re: CS & blood brain barrier
What kind of a problem? Faith G. - Original Message - From: "Tad Winiecki" To: Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 7:18 AM Subject: Re: CS>Re: CS & blood brain barrier I looked at old files on my old computer no longer used on the internet and found a file like this. It said Silver nitrates and lactates were a problem. I wonder what this would mean about putting CS in milk? Nancy On Jan 20, 2008, at 7:32 PM, Clayton Family wrote: some time back a link was posted to a medical study, which stated in it that cs was found in brain tissue, as well as in organ tissue. This was supposed to be a bad thing, and was mentioned to discourage people from taking cs. I thought this was a good thing, that it showed the silver was getting around to kill off the beasties that were plaguing me. I am sorry I don't remember which one it was, or I would post it for you. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Marketing 101
Good Dee. I hope you find what you are looking for. Best Wishes. Faith G. - Original Message - From: "Dee " To: Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 5:58 AM Subject: Re: CS>Marketing 101 Hi Faith, I have been onto the Swansons site and it looks really, really good! Wish I had known about it before. Their food state multi vit looks great and they also do the l-selenomethionine form of selenium. Dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Girl in Trouble
Agreed. Faith G. .. Would not straight CS help? At least its non toxic in such a situation where her system is so traumatised. Dee From: hj Date: 21/01/2008 19:02:56 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>Girl in Trouble Hi all: Her father is ready to try anything, even if it means to sneak stuff by The hospital staff. She's able to take a few sips of fluid a day, and I thought of MMS, but on an empty stomach? I thought of maybe applying It over her chest mixed with DMSO, but the thought of her having to Throw up gives me the scares? What about a magnetic pulser, or Godzilla-type Unit? May I ask for your thoughts please? Thank you all, Heidi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>All Products
Another site to add to my list. thanks Paula. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Paula Perry To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 7:08 AM Subject: CS>All Products This site was recommended as being very good. The prices are extremely reasonable. I haven't ordered from them yet, but am planning on trying it. Paula http://store.ourhealthcoop.com/All_Products_s/17.htm
Re: CS>FDA Announces Plan to Eliminate Vitamin Companies
Pharma bought Vitamin companies because they make big profits and aren't subject to all the expensive FDA regs they have to pay for, because *we the people* don't. They were sold "to the highest bidder" by those "altruistic founders" of those companies because the price was met, justified by the profit margins and market share. None of it had anything to do with Government. Just pure business. Government may eventually step in with anti trust [monopoly] laws. Ode Sure Ode. All small business owners want to be lured out of business by a few carrots. All small small business owners are stupid and want to give up their lucrative incomes and are blind to what pharmas and the FDA are doing.. Government has everything to do with business, where have you been? If the Government had not demolished the anti trust laws we already had we wouldn't be in this pickle today. It was in pharmagovernment's best interest to do so. Faith G. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Marketing 101
Dee: Of course I do not advocate paying more. Not now or ever. NOW and other large supplement manufacturers are in cahoots with the FDA to drive smaller manufacturers out of business so that these larger companies can have the market to themselves. THEN they WILL raise prices because where else will you go to buy supplements? So let's get it straight. Competition helps to keep prices low. Eliminate the competition (with the help of the FDA) and prices will rise, probably substantially. So I am against eliminating the competitive smaller vitamin manufacturers. SO, to help keep the smaller vitamin manufacturers in business I will support them instead of supporting greedy, monopolistic companies like NOW. NOW has kept their prices low to attract business and become the large company they are today. All that will change in a heartbeat once they get rid of their competition. Someone asked about finding smaller drug comapnies to buy from. There are plenty of them and probably at good prices too. Anyone can go to any number of online outlets like Swanson's or Vitacost or iHerb, etc., etc., etc., and find supplements marketed by companies other than NOW. It is not difficult. Mr. Byron, the author of the heads up article, is a small vitamin company himself, and he does not want to be strong-armed out of business. I do not blame him in the least. There is a Health Store not far from my home that has only a small section in their store that offers NOW products, so evidently they are not strong supporters of NOW either. I compliment them. Monopolistic practices disadvantage the customer tremendously, and this country is swimming in them. Faith G. .. Subject: Re: CS>NOW and the FDA So you advocate paying more *now* then! What is the difference? Plus not *all* small companies are so ethical either, given the chance they want to be in with the big league as well eventually, so again, what is the difference? Dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Multi Vitamin and Mineral
Does anyone have a recommendation for a good daily multi-vitamin & mineral supplement? I think I may need to try something different from what I am using. Thanks. Faith G.
Re: CS>FDA Announces Plan to Eliminate Vitamin Companies
MessageThat is one definition. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Terry To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 2:28 PM Subject: RE: CS>FDA Announces Plan to Eliminate Vitamin Companies From Wikipedia: "The term 'Bush Derangement Syndrome" refers to a purported tendency by some American liberals to blame President George W. Bush for virtually every ill in the world. -Original Message- From: bbanever [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net] Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 8:24 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>FDA Announces Plan to Eliminate Vitamin Companies So painfully true.
Re: CS>NOW and the FDA
If we are not part of the solution, we are part of the problem. Faith G. - Original Message - From: "Clayton Family" To: Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 11:14 AM Subject: Re: CS>NOW and the FDA I use some of the NOW products, they are pretty good quality. Maybe not all of them are, but as a vegan with allergies to many things it is not easy to find suitable supplements. I am not worrying about it. I like to buy locally, and use small companies, but I need to get what works for me. --kathryn On Jan 19, 2008, at 6:11 AM, Dee wrote: Thanks for this Frankie. The trouble is, what if the small companies don't supply the same products? I have only just found the NOW range and am so pleased with it, I am loath to give it up. Especially if it means buying something inferior and/or more expensive. Surely if the companies like Now are supplying us with quality natural products/supplements that is what we want isn't it? We also have to remember that the big companies started out as small companies, so maybe the same will happen in time. I'm confused. Dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>FDA Announces Plan to Eliminate Vitamin Companies
And I jsut responded to the Natural Products Associatio's request to stop S.2470, a proposed restriction on the sale of DHEA. What "testing" is necessary on the supplements that we have been using for years? Faith G. - Original Message - From: "Paula Perry" To: Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 5:23 AM Subject: Re: CS>FDA Announces Plan to Eliminate Vitamin Companies Nancy, The Natural Products Association is a trade organization which represents industry. It is not a public citizens group at all. The word "natural" is really meaningless. John Hammell has spoken out about this group before in regards to Codex. What has happened to many of the largest vitamin companies is that controlling interests have been sold to big pharma companies. Also persons that represent big pharma have been placed on their board of directors. What seems to be afoot is that they are trying to drive out all the smaller companies and completion. But, there is also a movement to establish upper safe limits on vitamins and restrict what products are allowed to be sold. In this way, they can make the vitamin companies more like drug companies. The costs of testing, etc. will restrict who is able to pay those costs (which will then be passed on to consumers.) It will help them make a big monopoly out of the vitamin industry, just like the drug industry. Profits, profits. Prices will skyrocket and big pharma wins again. Paula - Original Message - From: "Tad Winiecki" To: Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 3:43 AM Subject: RE: CS>FDA Announces Plan to Eliminate Vitamin Companies I read the newstarget link and also went to the link- http://www.naturalproductsassoc.org/site/PageServer? pagename=abt_aboutnnfa "Founded in 1936, the Natural Products Association is the nation’s largest and oldest non-profit organization dedicated to the natural products industry. The Natural Products Association represents more than 10,000 retailers, manufacturers, wholesalers and distributors of natural products, including foods, dietary supplements, and health/beauty aids." It has a link for people to protest the government's interference in our right to have safe, affordable vitamins. Are these really the bad guys? Who is the writer of this article and what do you actually know about him? It seems like a complicated thing to decide just who the bad guys are unless you know more. Nancy On Jan 18, 2008, at 4:21 AM, faith gagne wrote: Read the article. Under "Trade Groups and Their Big Companies Turn on America" , NOW is listed in the 4th paragraph down. http://www.newstarget.com/022499.html -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>NOW and the FDA
Well you just keep supporting NOW and perhaps you will be happy with the increased cost of your supplements in the future. Faith g. - Original Message - From: "Dee " To: Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 7:11 AM Subject: Re: CS>NOW and the FDA Thanks for this Frankie. The trouble is, what if the small companies don't supply the same products? I have only just found the NOW range and am so pleased with it, I am loath to give it up. Especially if it means buying something inferior and/or more expensive. Surely if the companies like Now are supplying us with quality natural products/supplements that is what we want isn't it? We also have to remember that the big companies started out as small companies, so maybe the same will happen in time. I'm confused. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Joe bloggs Date: 19/01/2008 11:22:08 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>NOW and the FDA From what I can gather Dee, the Natural Products Association has been infiltrated and corrupted and is in cahoots with the BIG DRUG . Stick to the small companies and we can't go wrong - which is why the FDA are now bringing in laws that will wipe out the small companies. We are being herded into the sheep's pen without us even realising it. Hope I got it right. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong. Regards, Frankie. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>FDA Announces Plan to Eliminate Vitamin Companies
The article tells you who he is. Faith G. - Original Message - From: "Tad Winiecki" To: Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 3:43 AM Subject: RE: CS>FDA Announces Plan to Eliminate Vitamin Companies I read the newstarget link and also went to the link- http://www.naturalproductsassoc.org/site/PageServer? pagename=abt_aboutnnfa "Founded in 1936, the Natural Products Association is the nation’s largest and oldest non-profit organization dedicated to the natural products industry. The Natural Products Association represents more than 10,000 retailers, manufacturers, wholesalers and distributors of natural products, including foods, dietary supplements, and health/beauty aids." It has a link for people to protest the government's interference in our right to have safe, affordable vitamins. Are these really the bad guys? Who is the writer of this article and what do you actually know about him? It seems like a complicated thing to decide just who the bad guys are unless you know more. Nancy On Jan 18, 2008, at 4:21 AM, faith gagne wrote: Read the article. Under "Trade Groups and Their Big Companies Turn on America" , NOW is listed in the 4th paragraph down. http://www.newstarget.com/022499.html -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>citric acid and distilled water
You are welcome. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Dianne France To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 7:03 PM Subject: Re: CS>citric acid and distilled water WOW, what an eye opener. Thanks. I have also bought from Jarrow. Will rethink where I buy. Dianne - Original Message - From: faith gagne To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 7:21 AM Subject: Re: CS>citric acid and distilled water Dianne: Read the article. Under "Trade Groups and Their Big Companies Turn on America" , NOW is listed in the 4th paragraph down. http://www.newstarget.com/022499.html Faith G. - Original Message - From: Dianne France To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 6:15 AM Subject: Re: CS>citric acid and distilled water Faith I'm confused, I thought we didn't trust the FDA. I didn't read the article on NOW though. Have bought supplements from them before but if there is a problem would like to know. Dianne - Original Message - From: faith gagne To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 4:43 PM Subject: Re: CS>citric acid and distilled water After reading the FDA article I am not buying any thing more from NOW. Faith G.
CS>Fw: FDA Approves Food from Clones
Did everyone get this lessage? Sign up and sign EVERYTHING folks. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Citizens for Health To: jitte...@gis.net Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 5:20 PM Subject: FDA Approves Food from Clones FDA Approves Sale of Meat and Milk from Cloned Animals - But There's Still a Chance to Act! Washington, DC, January 15, 2008 - Today the Food and Drug Administration announced its determination that milk and meat from cloned animals are safe for sale to the public. In addition, the FDA is requiring no tracking system for clones or labeling of products produced from clones or their offspring. This action comes at a time when the U.S. Senate has voted twice to delay FDA's decision on cloned animals until additional safety and economic studies can be completed by the National Academy of Sciences and the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA). Sign the Center for Food Safety's "Clone-Free Pledge", and let food companies know you won't buy food from clones! Citizens for Health joins with the Center for Food Safety and dozens of other food industry, consumer, and animal welfare groups in blasting this decision as insensitive as well as irresponsible, since it flies in the face of opinion polls showing that the majority of Americans do not want milk or meat from cloned animals in their food. A December 2006 poll by the Pew Initiative on Food and Biotechnology found that nearly two-thirds of U.S. consumers were uncomfortable with animal cloning. A national survey conducted this year by Consumers Union found that 89 percent of Americans want to see cloned foods labeled, while 69 percent said that they have concerns about cloned meat and dairy products in the food supply. A recent Gallup Poll reported that more than 60 percent of Americans believe that it is immoral to clone animals, while the Pew Initiative on Food and Biotechnology found that a similar percentage say that, despite FDA approval, they won't buy milk from cloned animals. As a Citizens for Health member, you know we are committed to defending your right to the information you need to make your own health and wellness choices. That is why we are particularly disappointed that the FDA also failed to require labeling of food from clones, effectively preventing consumers from making educated decisions about what they put into their bodies. In response to FDA's pending approval, US Senator Barbara Mikulski (D-MD) has introduced Senate Bill S.414, the Cloned Food Labeling Act, and U.S. House Representative Rosa DeLauro (D-CT) introduced an identical bill, H.R. 992, in the House just a few weeks later. Protect Your Right to Know - Send an email in support of labeling food from clones! Thanks for taking action! The Citizens for Health Team To view our privacy policy, click here. You are receiving this alert because you are subscribed to the Citizens for Health list to receive occasional updates of importance to the natural health community. If you wish to be removed from this list, click here and enter the email address you wish to have removed.
Re: CS>citric acid and distilled water
Dianne: Read the article. Under "Trade Groups and Their Big Companies Turn on America" , NOW is listed in the 4th paragraph down. http://www.newstarget.com/022499.html Faith G. - Original Message - From: Dianne France To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 6:15 AM Subject: Re: CS>citric acid and distilled water Faith I'm confused, I thought we didn't trust the FDA. I didn't read the article on NOW though. Have bought supplements from them before but if there is a problem would like to know. Dianne - Original Message - From: faith gagne To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 4:43 PM Subject: Re: CS>citric acid and distilled water After reading the FDA article I am not buying any thing more from NOW. Faith G.
Re: CS>citric acid and distilled water
Read the material. Faith G. - Original Message - From: "Dee " To: Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 8:15 AM Subject: Re: CS>citric acid and distilled water What has Now done to upset you. I think their products are great. Dee ---Original Message--- From: faith gagne Date: 17/01/2008 21:44:02 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>citric acid and distilled water After reading the FDA article I amnot buying any;thing more from NOW> Faith G. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>citric acid and distilled water
What have Now done then? Dee < Read the article: http://www.newstarget.com/022499.html Faith G -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>FDA Announces Plan to Eliminate Vitamin Companies
MessageNo kidding. - Original Message - From: Terry To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 9:22 PM Subject: RE: CS>FDA Announces Plan to Eliminate Vitamin Companies Big pharma and the fascist goons at the FDA were in play long before the Bush administration. Sorry Mike, I know it's not a political forum (and I promise won't volley with bbanever), but I've had enough short-sighted, hate-driven buffoonishness for one day. -Original Message- From: bbanever [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 3:10 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>FDA Announces Plan to Eliminate Vitamin Companies Faith, We can't get millions to march on congress to stop the war. Do you think we'll get millions to demand access to vitamins and minerals? This country and much of the world is being taken over by fascists who only want money and power in the hands of corporations and the priviledged few. This is a play by big pharma with the approval of Bush and his fascist goons at the FDA. The sicker you are, the more you will spend on drugs. They do not want you to be healthy, and worse the don't want anyone to be able to treat themselves. These people are pure evil. - Original Message - From: faith gagne To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 12:59 PM Subject: Re: CS>FDA Announces Plan to Eliminate Vitamin Companies No, maybe we have to march on Congress. Millions of Americans must march on Congres and put a stop to this. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Paula Perry To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 5:37 AM Subject: CS>FDA Announces Plan to Eliminate Vitamin Companies http://www.newstarget.com/022499.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.6/1229 - Release Date: 1/17/2008 11:12 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.6/1229 - Release Date: 1/17/2008 11:12 AM
Re: CS>FDA Announces Plan to Eliminate Vitamin Companies
Not so.
Faith G.
- Original Message -
From: leslie1053
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: CS>FDA Announces Plan to Eliminate Vitamin Companies
i've been getting mail from them for over 6 months and no problem. Think any
sites with frames which includes most news sites are warned that there is a
possibility of problems.
Leslie
- Original Message -
From: faith gagne
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: CS>FDA Announces Plan to Eliminate Vitamin Companies
I was just going to subscribe to the News Target Insider E-Mail Newsletter,
but my Virus protection immediately warned me against the site. Faith G.
- Original Message -
From: Paula Perry
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 5:37 AM
Subject: CS>FDA Announces Plan to Eliminate Vitamin Companies
http://www.newstarget.com/022499.html
Re: CS>citric acid and distilled water
After reading the FDA article I amnot buying any;thing more from NOW> Faith G. - Original Message - From: "Smitty" To: Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 4:10 PM Subject: Re: CS>citric acid and distilled water Where's the best source to purchase citric acid? I got mine from a HFS. On the bottle is a supplier = http://tinyurl.com/24v6jl Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>FDA Announces Plan to Eliminate Vitamin Companies
I was just going to subscribe to the News Target Insider E-Mail Newsletter, but my Virus protection immediately warned me against the site. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Paula Perry To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 5:37 AM Subject: CS>FDA Announces Plan to Eliminate Vitamin Companies http://www.newstarget.com/022499.html
Re: CS>FDA Announces Plan to Eliminate Vitamin Companies
No, maybe we have to march on Congress. Millions of Americans must march on Congres and put a stop to this. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Paula Perry To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 5:37 AM Subject: CS>FDA Announces Plan to Eliminate Vitamin Companies http://www.newstarget.com/022499.html
Re: CS>FDA Announces Plan to Eliminate Vitamin Companies
We should one and all march on the FDA to put a stop to this. Millions of us should march ofnthe FDA. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Paula Perry To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 5:37 AM Subject: CS>FDA Announces Plan to Eliminate Vitamin Companies http://www.newstarget.com/022499.html
Re: CS>Middle Ear Infection
That takes a little getting used to. But it is good. Faith G. - Original Message - From: "Clayton Family" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 8:53 PM Subject: Re: CS>Middle Ear Infection I use the cs in the sinuses, as they are connected with the inner ears. It seems to reduce the swelling, which in turn allows the ears to drain too. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Middle Ear Infection
Me too. Faith G. - Original Message - From: "leslie1053" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 7:35 PM Subject: Re: CS>Middle Ear Infection Hi, I put CS in my ear. It takes care of it; may have to do it a few times. Leslie - Original Message - From: "G Murray" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 6:00 PM Subject: CS>Middle Ear Infection Hi All, I seem to have an infection running in my inner ear. I woke up 4 days ago with a plugged right ear. Over the course of an hour or so it progressively built up more pressure. It did not exactly hurt like an ear ache just felt like my ear would explode. I let IES and hydrogen peroxide sit in the ear for 10 minutes or so, but had to leave. It was still plugged at that time but slowly seemed to get better over the course of a few hours where it seemed to clear and I could hear again. The next day, I went to talk with a pharmacist who claimed that it was a middle ear infection and unless I wanted antibiotics, that a decongestant to dry it up would likely be the only thing that helps. I did not take the decongestant that day, but I did mix alcohol with the Hp and IES hoping that if it was water this would dry out the ear canal. Did not feel much difference. I went to another pharmacist who said to use an anti-histamine to dry it up. I stopped the IES and Hp for 24 hours while I was on the benadryl and decongestant, but now instead of feeling just plugged, I can now feel a little ear ache. So this afternoon I put more peroxide and silver in my ear again. It has not felt any better since that time. It has been about 4.5 hours. The peroxide did fizz this time where it never really did the first couple of days. Is there some other treatments that I can try? I really don't want to see a doctor. I have thought about colostrum, but it is hard to find in this town and it is very expensive. What about oregano oil would that be of any use? Nutribiotic with citricidal(grapefruit seed extract))? G Murray -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Doctor alleges plans underway to "microchip" newborns
Okay, I'll add my 2 cents worth: If you feel fear, even the tiniest whiff of fear or any other negative uncomfortable feeling, that is your first clue that you are relying on yourself. Now can we get back to CS? thanks. Faith g. - Original Message - From: Carol Ann To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 11:00 PM Subject: Re: CS>Doctor alleges plans underway to "microchip" newborns No offense Nancy, but really, I have no interest in what Scribes wrote 2000 years ago as the word of God, nor would I be truly interested in throwing myself on any religious sharpened sword.Religion does not reveal to me that chip implanting infants, the helpless elderly etc, etc. etc. is fundamentally wrong. Nor am I in fear of any ethereal beast absconding with my immortal Soul. And although, per the Bible, that's one hell of a hair raising, fear driven rapture scenario you describe, on par, perhaps better, than anything Edgar Allen Poe could have aspired too, at the moment, I am more concerned with the living two legged beasts of government running their rapture ponzi schemes under the guise of the good natured humanitarian veils. I might add, the concern is not for myself, but for my children and grandchildren. My hope is only to live long enough to teach them how to effectively use their own swords. Kurt Milkowski wrote: Kind of makes you wonder what all those guillotines are for? Great post Nancy! Kurt Tad Winiecki wrote: On Jan 14, 2008, at 5:37 AM, Carol Ann wrote: > Heck, IF information contained within the body of your post is true > and accurate, .even I would join a christian movementproviding > they made this their primary opposition objective and crusade as > opposed to trying to convert the word to christianity.. Carol Ann- You are probably aware the Bible predicts in the book of Revelation that under the Anti-Christ a mark in the forehead or hand will be necessary to buy or sell. Many think this could be a micro-chip. Those who refuse will come under harsh repercussions. Those who refuse to worship the Anti-Christ and take the mark of the Beast will be beheaded (but will be instantly in the presence of God in Heaven). Those who take the mark will have at most 7 years left, probably just 3 1/2 years, and suffer terrible things on the earth- sores that won't heal, scorpions that sting, but don't kill, the oceans and fresh water becoming like blood, all the grass and trees burned up in scorching heat, winds that cause men to die just from fear, (all the natural disasters being brought on my man himself) then be cast into the Lake of Fire. Some choice. Some Christians believe the Church (body of believers in Messiah Yeshua, Jesus) will have been removed from the earth before the Tribulation begins and the Anti-Christ is revealed; this is the hope of the Rapture, when the dead in Christ will come out of their graves and the living will be transformed instantly into incorruptible bodies and will join them in the air. Jesus says that those who are worthy and watching for His return will not have to go through wrath, Luke 21:36, and also tells the parable of 10 virgins awaiting the return of Bridegroom to take them to the wedding party, 5 of which are left behind because they have no oil (the Holy Spirit) in their lamps, and 5 which go to the wedding party because they are prepared and watching , Matthew 25:1-13. Some believe in the Rapture at the start of the 7 year Tribulation, some mid-Trib, some just as Jesus returns to rescue the Jews from the final destruction by the Anti-Christ and to set up His Kingdom on the earth. Some don't believe in the Rapture at all. The Word is there, people have opinions. There is still only one Truth. Under the pre-Trib view, being a Christian would spare you from the whole Tribulation woes, but not from the wars and rumors of wars, increasing earthquakes, and conquest of the whole earth (4 Horsemen of the Apocalypse) to create a One World government under 10 kings, marked by war, famine, and disease. So, let's see, being a Christian doesn't mean freedom from persecution, war and disease in this world but guarantees being in the presence of God and a total lack of all these things in Heaven, but someone who believes this should keep it to themselves and not try to take anyone with them? Wouldn't this make them monsters? I should tell you that true Christians are not the ones that make the headlines, the ones who bomb abortion clinics, and are big on condemnation. We are actually called to reconcile the world with God and tell people that
Re: CS>Re: Cancer - Sarcoma
Thaks I have bookmarked the site. Faith G. - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 2:38 AM Subject: CS>Re: Cancer - Sarcoma Faith, You might want to contact the Center for a more local Tibetan Medicine practitioner. Mine began his studies at 8---and it shows! http://www.tibetanacademy.org/ jr P.S. Apologies if this is a duplicate; couldn't tell for sure if the 1st one went out. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Doctor alleges plans underway to "microchip" newborns
What rubbish. - Original Message - From: "Tad Winiecki" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 1:36 AM Subject: Re: CS>Doctor alleges plans underway to "microchip" newborns No offense taken. The chips under discussion are just co-incidental, are they necessary to buy or sell? The mark in the Bible may not be a computer chip but will be necessary to buy or sell. Just as there is a Holy Trinity, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, at some future point there will be an unholy trinity, The Beast (Anti-Christ), the False Prophet, and the Dragon (Satan). They will not be able to take choice away from you, they will just force to make one. Nancy On Jan 14, 2008, at 8:00 PM, Carol Ann wrote: Religion does not reveal to me that chip implanting infants, the helpless elderly etc, etc. etc. is fundamentally wrong. Nor am I in fear of any ethereal beast absconding with my immortal Soul. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Doctor alleges plans underway to "microchip" newborns
What on earth does this have to do with colloidal silver? Faith G, - Original Message - From: "Tad Winiecki" To: Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 8:22 PM Subject: Re: CS>Doctor alleges plans underway to "microchip" newborns On Jan 14, 2008, at 5:37 AM, Carol Ann wrote: Heck, IF information contained within the body of your post is true and accurate, .even I would join a christian movementproviding they made this their primary opposition objective and crusade as opposed to trying to convert the word to christianity.. Carol Ann- You are probably aware the Bible predicts in the book of Revelation that under the Anti-Christ a mark in the forehead or hand will be necessary to buy or sell. Many think this could be a micro-chip. Those who refuse will come under harsh repercussions. Those who refuse to worship the Anti-Christ and take the mark of the Beast will be beheaded (but will be instantly in the presence of God in Heaven). Those who take the mark will have at most 7 years left, probably just 3 1/2 years, and suffer terrible things on the earth- sores that won't heal, scorpions that sting, but don't kill, the oceans and fresh water becoming like blood, all the grass and trees burned up in scorching heat, winds that cause men to die just from fear, (all the natural disasters being brought on my man himself) then be cast into the Lake of Fire. Some choice. Some Christians believe the Church (body of believers in Messiah Yeshua, Jesus) will have been removed from the earth before the Tribulation begins and the Anti-Christ is revealed; this is the hope of the Rapture, when the dead in Christ will come out of their graves and the living will be transformed instantly into incorruptible bodies and will join them in the air. Jesus says that those who are worthy and watching for His return will not have to go through wrath, Luke 21:36, and also tells the parable of 10 virgins awaiting the return of Bridegroom to take them to the wedding party, 5 of which are left behind because they have no oil (the Holy Spirit) in their lamps, and 5 which go to the wedding party because they are prepared and watching , Matthew 25:1-13. Some believe in the Rapture at the start of the 7 year Tribulation, some mid-Trib, some just as Jesus returns to rescue the Jews from the final destruction by the Anti-Christ and to set up His Kingdom on the earth. Some don't believe in the Rapture at all. The Word is there, people have opinions. There is still only one Truth. Under the pre-Trib view, being a Christian would spare you from the whole Tribulation woes, but not from the wars and rumors of wars, increasing earthquakes, and conquest of the whole earth (4 Horsemen of the Apocalypse) to create a One World government under 10 kings, marked by war, famine, and disease. So, let's see, being a Christian doesn't mean freedom from persecution, war and disease in this world but guarantees being in the presence of God and a total lack of all these things in Heaven, but someone who believes this should keep it to themselves and not try to take anyone with them? Wouldn't this make them monsters? I should tell you that true Christians are not the ones that make the headlines, the ones who bomb abortion clinics, and are big on condemnation. We are actually called to reconcile the world with God and tell people that He is not holding their sins against them, they've already been paid. Colossians 1:20, 2 Corinthians 5:18-19 Nancy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>SomalifeGHP
I'm not Dee but it sounds as though you need either a new mouse or, more likely, a more compatible mouse pad. Faith G - Original Message - From: "sol" To: Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 6:59 PM Subject: Re: CS>SomalifeGHP That is the claim. I am actually planning to reduce some other expenses this year, including some other supplements, and hope to free up enough $$ to give it a try. I REALLY can't afford it, but if I can cut enough $$ from other places, I could try it maybe for a couple months. But I can't remember if a 2 month trial is long enough to see any benefits What format do you send emails in Dee? I can't crop your text, and when I try to delete to shorten my answer my cursor goes wonky, and I can't edit my own text, or place the cursor where I want it. To fix this I have to shut down my computer and reboot it. Any ideas why this happens? sol Dee wrote: -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re: Cancer - Sarcoma
I'm impressed. This is a fabulous story. Unfortunately I live on the East Coast. Thanks. Faith G. - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 5:37 PM Subject: CS>Re: Cancer - Sarcoma Re Karen's aunt, I had a similar situation where doctors had biopsied and diagnosed a growth on my right hand as cancerous, said it HAD to be removed surgically or else. As they'd given me a 'distant' surgery date, as I walked back to my car, when I saw "Tibetan Healing Center" outside a non-descript building near my hospital, I walked in to see what they might have to say. Despite having no money in my pocket, Dr. Lobsang Dhondup saw me immediately. After taking the 6 pulses in each forearm and examining a urine sample, he prescribed a 30-day herbal regimen (that they prepare; little round pellets resembling rabbit droppings). As an aside, you don't tell him what's wrong---he tells you. When I came back 30 days later, the growth had disappeared, never to return. This is now 5 years later. Powerful medicine---can't recommend them enough! While their main location is in San Diego, where I saw him, Dr. Dhondup travels and takes appointments throughout California. (At the time, an appointment was $70, plus meds. http://www.tibetanacademy.org/ jr -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>SomalifeGHP
It is pretty pricey and I couldn't find quantity only price. Faith G - Original Message - From: "Smitty" To: Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 8:19 PM Subject: Re: CS>SomalifeGHP I looked this up on the web, and it didn't get a good write up mainly because it didn't list ingredients. Does anyone know why? Dee You didn't try to google it dijja ? Ingredient Details : The ingredients are the purest free-form crystalline amino acids consisting of L-Lysine, L-Arginine, L-Ornithine, L-Glutamine, Glycine, Leucine, Iso-Leucine, and Valine. Magnesium stearate (MCC) is a lubricant used in minute quantities to assist the encapsulation process of the amino acids. Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Re: CS>MMs hoax or cure?
Please name some oxidants. Thanks. Faith G. - Original Message - From: gmetrop...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 4:58 PM Subject: Re: CS>MMs hoax or cure? Thanks Marshall. Great explanantion. So many people are taking anitoxidants when ill many take them along with oxidants. As you point out that is counterproductive. I quess what we get in foods is balanced. So your saying kill the pathogens, then protect with anitoxidants. Valuable info. ** Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
Re: CS>How much is too much?/was Kathryn..Potassium/now Debbie, Leslie, Smitty, Faith
Which potassium is best, chloride or gluconate? Thanks. Faith G. Go to the grocery store and the salt section and you can buy a box of NuSalt that is Potassium chloride. 1/6 teaspoon is 530 mg or 15% of the RDA. Minerals in the chloride form don't use up your Hydrochloric acid (stomach acid) to break them down into a soluble form . Nancy Jodi wrote: According to my bottle of potassium, one 99 mg. caplet (I'm taking potassium gluconate) is 3% of the "daily value". -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Brooks Bradley, Magnesium Plus good info on Prostate.
A few days ago I began taking liquid magnesium every night in addition to the 500 mg magnesium that I get in my daily supplement, plus whatever I get in my diet. Last night I had leg cramps that would not quit. I was out of bed and standing on my sore legs every 5 minutes, or so it seemed, to stretch the muscles and make them quit hurting. And I didn't even take the full recommended amount of liquid magnesium. SO! No more liquid magnesium for me. Anybody want a quart of liquid magnesium cheap? Faith G. - Original Message - From: tom chick To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 8:59 PM Subject: CS>Brooks Bradley, Magnesium Plus good info on Prostate. -- From: Brooks Bradley Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 11:45 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS> CS & DMSO:COMMENT Hello Marshall, The amounts of Magnesium involved in this protocol are many times lower than required to create consequential upsets within the physiology of any but the MOST SYSTEMICALLY CHALLENGED INDIVIDUALS.. Much disruptive and inaccurate information relating to the Calcium/Magnesium relationship has been bandied about by many persons who do not have correct information..and even less research in the matter. For example, with some notable exceptions, most of the general population ingests an EXCESS of calcium...much of it from un-noticed sources in the general food supply. Magnesium is, in most cases, in short supply for insuring good health in the average adult. We do not contend that the proportional relationship between magnesium and calcium is of no consequence.as there is a proven interaction which is important in human health. However, we do contend that the ACTUAL necesary proportions of SUPPLEMENTAL ADDITIONS (MOST ESPECIALLY OF CALCIUM FRACTIONS)are considerably different from a majority of the popular media claims, and overblown in their specific importance relative to stated exactitudes of percentages. The problem of TOO MUCH CALCIUM is, we seem to find, much more prevalent than too little. The central problem revolves around calcium UTILIZATION..not gross intake. The long-lived bromide about calcium shortages had its inception, primarily, as a result of studies (many quite flawed) relating to osteoporosis conditions manifesting in post-menopausal women. My short answer to your observation is, simply, that 1000 mg daily of supplemental magnesiumfor adults consuming anything but a nutritionally-starved dietwill pose very, very, small corrective demands on the systemic functions...at least this has been our experience-others may have effected different results. We have found that magnesium is woefully unresearched and denied its recognition warranted for MANY undeclared benefits in human health. Adult males, especially, are as a groupchronically deficient in sufficient magnesium levels required for best health. Additional calcium (unless of a high magnitude [over 2000 mg] would probably not impose any reduction of the magnesium's benefits. However, for the previously-mentioned reasonsI do not feel such to be a required component to this protocol. If one has personal reservations relative to ingesting 1000 mg of magnesium without an additional calcium supplement, then 500 mg of some form of EASILY assimilated calcium can be ingested..if only to satiate their personal health paradigm. Be Well Marshall, Brooks. p.s. As a personal anecdote I relate that I have ingested 1500 mg of magnesium chloride daily (without any form of buffering or companion substance) for the past 3 years.without experiencing any form of compromise. However, I do take two tablespoons daily, of Thorvin kelpwhich would tend to ameliorate mineral-induced excursions-from a wide variety among the body's roster of minerals. a -[ Received Mail Content ]-- >Subject : Re: CS> CS & DMSO:COMMENT >Date : Wed, 29 Nov 2006 12:57:42 -0500 >From : Marshall Dudley >To : silver-list@eskimo.com > >Thank you very much for this very informative posting. I do have one >question. You are recommending taking large dosages of Magnesium. It >was my understanding that magnesium and calcium should be taken >together, that taking one without the other can lead to some >imbalances. Do you have any information on this? Should calcium not be >taken as well to maintain a balance, or would calcium reduce the >effectiveness of the protocol? > >Thanks, > >Marshall
Re: CS>MMS
Thanks Chuck. Faith G. Misery loves company, but that doesn't mean you have to accept the invitation. - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 11:08 PM Subject: Re: CS>MMS Here's two http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MDI_News/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/miracle_mineral_supplement/ Chuck Humpty Dumpty was pushed On 1/10/2008 7:18:46 PM, marmar...@bellsouth.net wrote: Isn't there a chat list for MMS? If so, would someone give me the subscription address please? I think this is something that may help my husband, who has lung problems. And he got his first computer for Christmas, so joining a chatlist would help him to learn to navigate around the internet. Thanks. MA -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>MMS
Thanks Chuck. That one works. Faith G - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 3:48 PM Subject: Re: CS>MMS On 1/10/2008 2:35:36 PM, faith gagne (jitte...@gis.net) wrote: Chuck, the link to buy MMS ready made isn't working. It must be hollow. Faith G. You're right, I took that from months old post. This will work: http://www.globallight.net/Mms_86.html for purchases. Thanks Chuck Honesty is the best policy, but insanity is the better defense -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>How much is too much?/was Kathryn..Potassium/now Debbie, Leslie, Smitty, Faith
What is Body Balance? Thanks. Faith G. - Original Message - From: "Jodi" To: Cc: "sol" Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 8:38 PM Subject: Re: CS>How much is too much?/was Kathryn..Potassium/now Debbie, Leslie, Smitty, Faith I get plenty of salt. No worries there. I used to crave it until I started on Body Balance. Now I don't. Weird. Actually, I've been feeling very well lately, so I must be getting what I need, I'm happy to report. [grin] Thanks Sol. Jodi sol wrote: Are you watching your sodium too? I ahve read that over supplementing potassium can deplete sodium and unbalance other minerals as well. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>MMS
Chuck, the link to buy MMS ready made isn't working. It must be hollow. Faith G. - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 1:31 PM Subject: Re: CS>MMS On 1/10/2008 12:38:22 PM, gmetrop...@aol.com wrote: I was told it would be cheaper to drink chlorox. This is a really dumb statement! MMS=Miracle Mineral Supplement Has CURED malaria in African trials. Go here, download the free part 1 book. http://www.miraclemineral.org/ Read it, get up to speed. Buy ready made product here. http://www.globallight.net/Mms-Miracle-Mineral-Supplement.html There is no MLM involved. If you want to make it yourself, buy the part 2 of the book. Chuck _Hollow chocolate has no calories -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Fw: ACTION ALERT: Support Ron Paul's Health Freedom Protection Act, H.R. 2117
Thank you Paula. I have re-contacted "Citizens for Health" on the internet and signed several of their Take Action requests. Thanks a million for bringing this to our attention. Our supplements and our entire food supply is in danger. Faith G. - Original Message - From: "Paula Perry" To: Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 4:23 AM Subject: CS>Fw: ACTION ALERT: Support Ron Paul's Health Freedom Protection Act, H.R. 2117 - Original Message - From: Citizens for Health To: p...@zoomnet.net Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 5:23 PM Subject: ACTION ALERT: Support Ron Paul's Health Freedom Protection Act, H.R. 2117 It is a New Year, and a new opportunity for Congress to stand up in support of our health freedoms! Urge Your Representative to Support H.R. 2117, The Health Freedom Protection Act! ACTION ALERT: WASHINGTON, January 9, 2008 - We are in the thick of an election year and many of the candidates for President are clamoring to offer health policies that simply maintain the status quo and enable the pharmaceutical industry to maintain its stranglehold on consumers. These same candidates would also allow the FDA to continue to shirk its duty to protect consumers from the often dangerous or lethal drugs big pharma is all too eager to push on the public. It is especially important at this time for our elected representatives to support policy and legislation that puts consumers in control of their own health decisions. That is why it is critical that you urge your Representative to co-sponsor Ron Paul's Health Freedom Protection Act, H.R. 2117. With your help we can surpass the level of support the bill enjoyed in the 109th session, and bring it to the floor for a vote. Click here to email your Congressperson to co-sponsor H.R. 2117! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>How much is too much?/Kathryn..Potassium
What kind of potassium are you taking...chloride or gluconate? - Original Message - From: "Jodi" To: Cc: "Deborah Gerard" Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 9:40 PM Subject: Re: CS>How much is too much?/Kathryn..Potassium Hi Deb - I don't know about 8,000, but I'm up to 5,600 mg. of potassium a day, and have gone as high as maybe 6,300 or 7,000 so far. Not sure exactly how much I take on some days (could be more) because I'm not worried about it hurting me so I lose track. I take doses of 700 at a time, and it has helped me tremendously. My blood pressure came down 45 points, and all the inflammation that I had suddenly developed in my lower legs is gone. No negative side effects at all. Hope this helps. Kind regards, Jodi Deborah Gerard wrote: I read somewhere that we are supposed to take really large doses of potassium somewhere around 8,000 mg can anyone comment on this? thanks debbie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>subscribe (UNCLASSIFIED)
In case I haven't said it already, A Happy and Prosperous New Year to you Mike. Faith G. - Original Message - From: "M. G. Devour" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 2:41 AM Subject: Re: CS>subscribe (UNCLASSIFIED) Relax folks, Bob Medwith (a long time member) is obviously having some trouble getting subscribed. I've sent him an off-list message offering to help. The Classified/Unclassified nonsense is clearly an artifact of the miltary servers he's using. He's obviously subscribing from his "day job." Have no fear! Mike D. da list owner dude... I keep getting this too and others. What is it? Dee ---Original Message--- From: Dave Date: 04/01/2008 16:49:34 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>subscribe (UNCLASSIFIED) Robert: Why do I keep getting this posting with no message. What is it you are trying to say? Dave [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Selenium
Hi Dee. Thanks.. Faith G.
- Original Message -
From: Dee
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Selenium
Hi Faith, I order it online from iHerb
http://www.iherb.com/ProductsList.aspx?c=1&cid=2235 as I am in the UK. Even
with the postage it is still cheaper than ordering in the UK and also, I can't
get this sort of thing here. It is really, really fast delivery and very
reasonable. Dee
---Original Message---
From: faith gagne
Date: 07/01/2008 19:50:34
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Selenium
Dee, do you order NOW by mail? Thaks. Faith G.
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Re: CS>Selenium
Dee, do you order NOW by mail? Thaks. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Dee To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 10:39 AM Subject: Re: CS>Selenium IHerb - Now Foods is in the l-selenomethionine version, which is the easiest to assimilate. It is really reasonable cost and super fast delivery. Dee ---Original Message--- From: sickleave48...@aol.com Date: 07/01/2008 01:03:55 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>Selenium What is cheapest place to buy Selenium Bob <>
Re: CS>Brooks Bradley-Magnesium
Dear Brooks: Many thanks from me also, and I am saving the article too. Faith G. - Original Message - From: mborg...@att.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 7:56 AM Subject: Re: CS>Brooks Bradley-Magnesium Dear Brooks Thanks again for your information, this time I am saving the article. Mary -- Original message from "tom chick" : -- From: Brooks Bradley Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2007 4:16 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: [RE]CS>Severe muscle cramps: Comment Dear Faith, You have, already, received a number of useful comments. I will take a moment to expand on one area of address. We have discovered over the immediately past 15 years, that a majority of sudden-onset cramping (especially in the extremities) demonstrates for a magnesium deficiency component..even in those cases presenting dehydration and/or calcium deficiency. Our experimental researches with high-impact athletes has confirmed, that proper magnesium in the lean muscle tissue beds.results in the vast majority of leg cramps (even professional athletes are subject to this quite frequently) being mitigated against. Such presentations of cramping are, quite often, direct companions of any form of exercise resulting in pronounced loss of fluid electrolytes. FYI, calcium is, as a general matter GREATLY overemphasized as being too low. We have found that it is MAGNESIUM which is the "BELL-WEATHER" sheep. As a general rule, ingesting adequate quantities of ! balanc! ed fluid electrolytessuch as Gatorade, before and/or during any activity pronounced enough to generate sweatingaids in preventing a majority of such painful presentations. Interestingly, a majority (80%) of our experimental volunteers who are on adequate Marine Kelp supplementationdo not manifest cramping of this type.even in the face of limited magnesium supplementation. One supplementation protocol displaying excellent results (especially among adults 50+ years, is 1000 mg daily for males and 750 mg for females.body mass considerations notwithstanding. At least that has been our experience. Magnesium is a very forgiving substanceand woefully undervalued in the allopath-dominated health arena. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. p.s. I would be remiss if I did not take this opportunity to remind the list members that our experience confirms that magnesium is the SINGLE MOST important protocol element yet discovered, for the control/pr! eventio n of kidney stones. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : CS>Severe muscle cramps Date : Thu, 6 Sep 2007 09:03:00 -0400 From : "faith gagne" To : Does CS help muscle cramps? I am having severe muscle cramping of the legs and feet at night. These cramps are more like seizures and they wrench me out of a sound sleep 2 or 3 times a night. This is really cutting down on my sleep. My hands are also cramping badly during the day, though not as often as my legs and feet. My feet and hands can sometimes feel heavy and numb. My doctor does not know what is wrong and he has scheduled me to see a neurologist on October 1. Will CS help this problem? Thank you. Fa! ith -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Brooks Bradley-Magnesium
Thank you Tom. Faith G. - Original Message - From: tom chick To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 8:29 PM Subject: CS>Brooks Bradley-Magnesium -- From: Brooks Bradley Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2007 4:16 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: [RE]CS>Severe muscle cramps: Comment Dear Faith, You have, already, received a number of useful comments. I will take a moment to expand on one area of address. We have discovered over the immediately past 15 years, that a majority of sudden-onset cramping (especially in the extremities) demonstrates for a magnesium deficiency component..even in those cases presenting dehydration and/or calcium deficiency. Our experimental researches with high-impact athletes has confirmed, that proper magnesium in the lean muscle tissue beds.results in the vast majority of leg cramps (even professional athletes are subject to this quite frequently) being mitigated against. Such presentations of cramping are, quite often, direct companions of any form of exercise resulting in pronounced loss of fluid electrolytes. FYI, calcium is, as a general matter GREATLY overemphasized as being too low. We have found that it is MAGNESIUM which is the "BELL-WEATHER" sheep. As a general rule, ingesting adequate quantities of balanc! ed fluid electrolytessuch as Gatorade, before and/or during any activity pronounced enough to generate sweatingaids in preventing a majority of such painful presentations. Interestingly, a majority (80%) of our experimental volunteers who are on adequate Marine Kelp supplementationdo not manifest cramping of this type.even in the face of limited magnesium supplementation. One supplementation protocol displaying excellent results (especially among adults 50+ years, is 1000 mg daily for males and 750 mg for females.body mass considerations notwithstanding. At least that has been our experience. Magnesium is a very forgiving substanceand woefully undervalued in the allopath-dominated health arena. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. p.s. I would be remiss if I did not take this opportunity to remind the list members that our experience confirms that magnesium is the SINGLE MOST important protocol element yet discovered, for the control/prevention of kidney stones. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : CS>Severe muscle cramps Date : Thu, 6 Sep 2007 09:03:00 -0400 From : "faith gagne" To : Does CS help muscle cramps? I am having severe muscle cramping of the legs and feet at night. These cramps are more like seizures and they wrench me out of a sound sleep 2 or 3 times a night. This is really cutting down on my sleep. My hands are also cramping badly during the day, though not as often as my legs and feet. My feet and hands can sometimes feel heavy and numb. My doctor does not know what is wrong and he has scheduled me to see a neurologist on October 1. Will CS help this problem? Thank you. Faith -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Mineral drink
Gail, will you please say where you ordered the organa mineral drink? thanks. Faith G - Original Message - From: "Gail Naranjo" To: Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 1:12 PM Subject: CS>Mineral drink From: Tad Winiecki We do use mineral supplements Nancy Nancy, Thank you so much for telling me about the organa mineral drink. I just ordered a gallon from Organa International for $35. Ofcourse, the s&h ran a little high, but still can't get over how inexpensive the price is! I'm very excited about getting on it. Read some of the testimonies. Apparently, it is great for leg cramps. What I am so excited about, tho, is it has zeolite in it! Again, many thanks! Gail -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Nigari
For detailed information on buying and using nigari in the USA search this site: http://www.naturalimport.com/shop_for_nigari Faith g
Re: CS>Transdermal magnesium product
Okay. thanks Ian. Faith g - Original Message - From: Ian Davies To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 2:58 AM Subject: CS>Transdermal magnesium product Hi Ian. If the information has been changed by the good doctor, why read the book? Just curious. Thanks. Faith G. > Hi Faith, the only information which has changed is the product recommendation. Other than that it's an excellent book in my opinion. Ian
Re: CS>Root Canals
Hi His! Good grief. What in the world did your dentist do to you? I had a root canal more than 35 years ago. It has given me no trouble. What remains of that tooth supports a crown, which looks pretty nice -- although the original crown has been replaced once. If you have a root canal removed, then you lose the usefulness of that tooth altogether, don't you? MA (who probably has a couple more root canals in her future, as thirty-year old silver fillings are beginning to fail and the dentist won't replace them with composite) :- >>>. Then find another dentist. Find a holistic dentist even if youhave to travel a little. They are your teeth. Faith g
Re: CS>Transdermal Magnesium Products link
- Original Message - From: mborg...@att.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 3:40 PM Subject: Re: CS>Transdermal Magnesium Products link I would check with your local co-op as I did, they have it or they can get it cheeper. It is not the price it is the freight that hurts. I paid 1.32 lb < Come to think of it, I don't think we have a local co op in my area either. I would really like to get some of that magnesium oil but I am a little timid about ordering from a site that I know nothing about on the internet.I am getting lame in one leg. It is the right leg which is the donor leg for heart surgery in 1997. I wonder if magnesium oil would help it. Faith G
Re: CS>Transdermal Magnesium Products link
If you have a Small Business Association or Information Center or something like that near you they might help you. It is a good idea. Good luck. Faith G. - Original Message - From: leslie1053 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 5:21 PM Subject: Re: CS>Transdermal Magnesium Products link How would one go about starting a co-op? Should be able to get several around here that would like to participate. In a rinky dink town. Leslie - Original Message - From: mborg...@att.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 3:40 PM Subject: Re: CS>Transdermal Magnesium Products link I would check with your local co-op as I did, they have it or they can get it cheeper. It is not the price it is the freight that hurts. I paid 1.32 lb -- Original message from Dave : -- I would use it experimentally but would have to make it myself. Global light has it for ONLY $100.00 a gallon. Dave leslie1053 wrote: Mary, are you making your own magnesium oil?? Can I order from that place also? I have some from Clark Chemical which is the magnesium chloride but the nurse from IMVA told me to immediately get all the magnesium in my body possible and recommended the oil but was too expensive for me. Thanks, Leslie - Original Message - From: mborg...@att.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 9:32 AM Subject: Re: CS>Transdermal Magnesium Products link Paula, I make my own oil. It is called Nigari, I get the kind from Japan and not from China. The formula is 1 cup of Nigari to 4 cups of water heat up a little and there you have it. I pay 1.32 lb and get it from my local co op. No freight involved. Mary -- Original message from "Paula Perry" : -- This is where I ordered magnesium oil and bath chrystals. Unfortunately, the site is being updated and not working. You can call 480-874-1879 or 1-800-481-9987 and then press "1" to order or ask questions about products. She was very friendly when I called and ordered. Seemed happy to answer questions. http://ihsite.com/ Paula
Re: CS>transdermal magnesium product
Hi Ian. If the information has been changed by the good doctor, why read the book? Just curious. Thanks. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Ian Davies To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 2:49 PM Subject: CS>transdermal magnesium product I believe that Dr Sircus now only recommends one product and that is from http://www.ancientminerals.eu/index1.html It is available in the US but I don't know where. If you haven't already you should read his book http://magnesiumforlife.com/ or at least read the extensive information available on the web site. Just don't take heed of the product recommendation in the book because it has since been changed by the good doctor. Cheers, Ian in Spain
Re: CS>Transdermal Magnesium Products link
Ooops! It is Mary's recipe. thank you Mary. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Paula Perry To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 10:43 AM Subject: Re: CS>Transdermal Magnesium Products link That is interesting. I have never heard of Nigari but I imagion it would be much cheaper. We don't have a co-op here. I wonder where I could get the Nigari. I guess I will google. Thanks, Paula - Original Message - From: mborg...@att.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 10:32 AM Subject: Re: CS>Transdermal Magnesium Products link Paula, I make my own oil. It is called Nigari, I get the kind from Japan and not from China. The formula is 1 cup of Nigari to 4 cups of water heat up a little and there you have it. I pay 1.32 lb and get it from my local co op. No freight involved. Mary
Re: CS>Range Guide Products - Transdermal Magnesium Therapy - Magnesium Chloride
Paula: Thank you very much. I am going to try your recipe. I really
appreciate that.
Now to find Nigari.
Faith G
- Original Message -
From: Paula Perry
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Range Guide Products - Transdermal Magnesium Therapy -
Magnesium Chloride
Faith,
I have used the magnesium oil and the magnesium bath chrystals. I didn't buy
it from the Range Guide though. It really isn't an oil. If you use the
magnesium oil it does have a little bit of the oily feel to it, but it is not
real greasy. With the bath chrystals it is not oily. The water just seems
softer.
Paula
- Original Message -
From: faith gagne
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Range Guide Products - Transdermal Magnesium Therapy -
Magnesium Chloride
HiThe streaming part doesn't work. Have you used this oil? Thanks.
Faith G
Re: CS>Range Guide Products - Transdermal Magnesium Therapy - Magnesium Chloride
HiThe streaming part doesn't work. Have you used this oil? Thanks. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Paula Perry To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 7:06 AM Subject: CS>Range Guide Products - Transdermal Magnesium Therapy - Magnesium Chloride This site has a streaming where you can listen online to the talk of magnesium. Info and ordering. Paula http://www.rangeguide.net/magnesiumchloride.htm
Re: CS>The Blue Man (Argyria) - Any Comments?
- Original Message - From: To: Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 10:56 AM Subject: Re: CS>The Blue Man (Argyria) - Any Comments? I personally think that "Big Pharma" set this up. Jacques -- www.jointhesolution.com/parjac7 . What does "Big Pharma" have to do with solar energy? Faith G. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Guillain-Barr syndrome
- Original Message - From: mborg...@att.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 9:45 AM Subject: Re: CS>Guillain-Barr syndrome Paula, Yes he answers his mail, which surprised me as well. I have his book on transdermal magnesium therapy read it and reread it. He is also on the curezone site under magnesium. There is a site--www. mgwater.com, this site is where I started to learn about the need for magnesium. I was in an accident years ago, the docs insisted on me taking antidepressant drugs for they said I was clinically depressed, I said no, but in reading up on magnesium I see all of my symptoms. All the years wasted trying to find out what was wrong with me. Brooks Bradley also wrote a long piece on magnesium. Mary > Mary, do you have that piece on magnesium by Brooks Bradley? I'd love to see it if you do. Thanks. Faith G
Re: CS>The Blue Man (Argyria) - Any Comments?
So, anytime anyone says, ... ONE THING, . I will usually have something to say. Certainly this applies to the USE of a PINCH, which should be banned from the dictionary, and the vocabulary of intelligent people. It has no place in the world today. Wayne >>>. Hi Wayne. I used a PINCH of salt this morning in a cream sauce I was making. I have seen this expression many times in food cooking and I use it when called for. Works for me. Happy New Year. Faith G.
Re: CS>Cancer - Sarcoma
- Original Message - From: Dave To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 9:36 PM Subject: Re: CS>Cancer - Sarcoma Take a look at this link,I used their information to stop three cancerous growths and believe they are right on. One was in the bladder area,one on the skin and one in my jaw about the size of a walnut. Dave http://www.alkalizeforhealth.net/cancerselftreatment.htm#alkalinity >> One needs to read the Disclaimer, Terms of Use and Privacy Policy in this web site's Table of Contents. It EMPHASIZES in no uncertain terms that the site is for educational purposes only. That is fine with me, but folks should be aware of the intent. Faith G
Re: CS>Cancer - Sarcoma
Try: The Division of Experimental Medicine, Room 101, Lady Meredith House, 1110 Pine Avenue West, Montreal, Quebec, Canada H3AlA3 Phone: (514) 398-3466 Fax: (514) 398-3425 E-mail: experimental.medic...@mcgill.ca OR The Hoxsey Clinic: Bio-Medical Center, 615 General Ferreira, Colonia Juarez, Tijuana, B.C. Mexico Mailing Address: PO Box 433654, San Isidro, CA 92143-3654 Pho9ne: 011-52-664-684-90-11 Fax: 011-52-664-684-9744 Faith G. Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:18 PM Subject: CS>Cancer - Sarcoma Does anyone have information on CS and cancer, specifically sarcoma? This one that my aunt has is called pleomorphic malignant histiocytoma. The tumor is now exposed and went from golf ball size under the skin, to 1/2 a large orange sitting on top of the skin after trying black salve - in two months it increased that much. She's taking a some tonics (for 10 days now) from http://sacredmedicinesanctuary.com modeled after Hoxsey and Eli Jones called Sundance and Algonquin. Thanks, Karen -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Season's greetings and ... huh?
Dear Mike: I have thought about joining the OT list, but decided against it because I can hardly handle all the emails I get now. I've been away for a couple of days for Xhristmas and I came home to a mail box stuffed full. Can't handle any more. Thanks anyway. Faith G. - Original Message - From: "M. G. Devour" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 5:07 PM Subject: CS>Season's greetings and ... huh? Dear Friends, I was busy enough yesterday not to have a moment to send my greetings for the season to you all. Please accept them now. Thanks to folks for moving these... suddenly edgy topics to the OT list in a sprightly fashion. Please, everyone make that effort. You're all policing yourselves pretty well on that, just so long as all do so. As far as I can tell the Off Topic List is working fine. Posting is done to silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com ... If you're not already set to receive OT list messages, send an e-mail with the word 'subscribe' as the subject to: silver-off-topic-list-requ...@eskimo.com Remember, the same rules of civility apply there as here on the main list, despite the fact virtually any subject is allowed. Any topic that cannot be discussed civilly amongst the members I will discourage or disallow, but an intelligent conversation can be had on a surprising range of things if everyone cooperates to a reasonable degree. Be sensitive toward others' feeling and slow to take offense and things will go well. Thank you all for your cooperation and loyalty to the mission of our little community. Peace! Be well, Mike Devour silver-list owner [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Merry Christmas
Thank you Dee. And Blessings to you too. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Dee To: silver-list@eskimo.com ; silverp...@yahoogroups.com ; candidia...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 2:26 PM Subject: CS>Merry Christmas Just to wish all on the lists a very Happy Christmas and may 'The Force' be with you throughout the year! X Dee <>
Re: CS>Merry Christmas
I don't really know what a Smoky Mountain Christmas is, but it sounds nice. I love the silver New Year. Faith G. - Original Message - From: T. J. Garland To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 3:07 PM Subject: Re: CS>Merry Christmas May you all have a Smoky Mtn. Christmas and a Silver New Year - Original Message - From: Dee To: silver-list@eskimo.com ; silverp...@yahoogroups.com ; candidia...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 2:26 PM Subject: CS>Merry Christmas Just to wish all on the lists a very Happy Christmas and may 'The Force' be with you throughout the year! X Dee
Re: CS>Technical crap?
Blessings to yu Wayne. Merry Christmas. I think you do try hard. Faith G. - Original Message - From: "Wayne Fugitt" To: Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 1:39 PM Subject: Re: CS>Technical crap? Evening Dan, >> At 12:16 PM 12/23/2007, you wrote: Morning Wayne, Hey, I understood that... ;-)) My laugh of the Day ! Are you sure ? I tried hard. Wayne = -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>blue man out in Minnesota
Blessings Dan. Faith G - Original Message - From: "Dan Nave" To: Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 1:11 PM Subject: Re: CS>blue man out in Minnesota I live in Minnesota, a state that elected a third party candidate for Governor. Jesse Ventura wasn't able to do too much in Minnesota other than shake up the two parties and eliminate the vehicle emission testing requirements. This is partly due to his personal defects, but mostly due to the inertia of government, the inertia of any institution, and the difficulty of getting any group of people to agree about anything... Have you ever been on a committee? Regarding the inertia of government, I am under the impression that the founders of this government purposely set things up so that there would be inertia so that no person or group could come in and make changes too quickly. Do yourself a favor, recognize the reality of these situations but don't allow yourself to become emotionally attached to any outcome. Unless you like emotionalism, that is. Dan wordsjunkie wrote: Probably because Ron Paul is running for President. Now this one is a new one on me! I'm so angry I could spit nails. I'm tired of a government that whores itself. And if Hillary gets elected, or anyone else besides Ron Paul, that's exactly what will happen, business as usual. Pay the money at the door of the white house, cash only and paid in advance, and the President and Congress will happily spread their legs. Yeah, I know it's ugly. The truth is ugly and right now I'm too danged angry to care how ugly it sounds. On Dec 22, 2007 9:18 PM, Carol Ann wrote: Richard, -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Argyria yes. Other side effects no.
You do a great job Mike. Merry Christmas. Faith G. - Original Message - From: "M. G. Devour" To: Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 10:49 AM Subject: Re: CS>Argyria yes. Other side effects no. Hint! Hint! OT List! OT list! Mike D. On Dec 23, 2007 2:55 PM, Sam L. wrote: > Natalis Solis Invicti > Main article: Sol Invictus -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>blue man
Forget it, it is a pbroblem with my computer.Thanks. Faith G. - Original Message - From: faith gagne To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 9:20 AM Subject: Re: CS>blue man Why is ther no sound with this video? thanks.
Re: CS>blue man
Why is ther no sound with this video? thanks. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Richard To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 4:53 PM Subject: CS>blue man Dear list members , I would like you to watch this video in order to understand just how insignificant our little blue Californian Smurf is in the scheme of things . These are the guys we are up against .. and this is what they are capable of ...! Bon w-end -Richard YouTube Broadcast Yourself™ xxisilverman wants to share a video with you watch video Video Description Company put HIV virus in its medicine. This is so illegal and un moral. Please spread this around To accept my friend request, click here. To respond to xxisilverman, click here. Thanks, xxisilverman Using YouTube YouTube Help Check the Help Center for answers to common questions. Your Account Settings To change your preferences, settings, or personal info, go to the 'My Account' section. Email Notifications To change or cancel email notifications from YouTube, go to the Email Options section of your Profile. Copyright © 2007 YouTube, Inc.
Re: CS>The Blue Man (Agryria) - Any Comments?
There is no more "too hot" coffee sold at McDonalds.
When an elderly woman endured intense physical pain which resulted in personal
disfigurement that required corrective surgery after spilling a scalding hot
beverage in her lap at McDonald's drive up window, the authorities finally woke
up and decided it was not such a bright idea to serve scalding hot beverages to
people in moving vehicles.. Coffee temperature is now reduced and regulated by
law at McDonalds and probably all drive up windows.
I tend to appreciate many of the public safety rules. It didn't happen to me
but that does not stop me from deeply sympathizing with the woman to whom it
did happen.
- Original Message -
From: Paula Perry
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 7:20 AM
Subject: Re: CS>The Blue Man (Agryria) - Any Comments?
I think the most valid reason for what you call the "nanny state" is NOT to
protect consumers. It's government and corporate interest merger. Government
agencies, especially of late, work primarily to protect industry profits and
monopolies. Lawyers and suing are just part of a little side show. It has
gotten tougher and tougher to beat big insurance and big pharma racket. Sure
take the wrong leg off during an operation you are likely to collect something
if you live long enough. Might be better to have the leg. A lot of new
legislation is now in force that protects pharma and places limits on what
people can collect for damages. Most people damaged by pharma drugs and
surgeries and infections related to hospitals don't collect a dime. Behind that
anti lawyer spin are a lot of big insurance and big pharma talking heads. How
many people have collected damages for too hot of coffee since that one case
was fully exploited by the corporate controlled media? Probably none.
Paula
----- Original Message -
From: faith gagne
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: CS>The Blue Man (Agryria) - Any Comments?
People are so used to NOT taking responsibility for themselves and the
Nanny government doesn't help. This started when all the danged lawyers
started suing for stupid stuff, like the lady and the McDonald's coffee. Come
on now, how much common sense does it take to know that coffee is hot, and you
need to be careful with it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Liz: The woman was elderly and was badly injured. Accidents happen.
Faith G.
Re: CS>The Blue Man (Agryria) - Any Comments?
I could not disagree with you more but I do not intend to pursue this. Merry Christmas. Faith G. - Original Message - From: wordsjunkie To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 1:52 PM Subject: Re: CS>The Blue Man (Agryria) - Any Comments? Hi Faith:) Yes, accidents happen. But you don't blame everyone else for your own dumb stunts. That was my point there. I have no complaints about accidents. Those are a part of life. She was injured yes, but that was her error in judgement, not the establishment where she bought the coffee. And that particular accident was totally preventable. That was just an example off the top of my head. The way I recall it, she bought the coffee and put it between her legs and I guess she squeezed it hard enough for the top to pop off, which can happen if you squeeze those paper cups too hard. It's been a while since I read the story. It's just the first example that crossed my mind at the time. Instead of just saying okay I goofed, and I got hurt, she blamed the store. She didn't take the responsibility for her own goof up. Liz:)
Re: Christ's birth, OT list anyone? was: Re: CS>Argyria yes. Other side effects no.
Ditto. - Original Message - From: "His Child" To: Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 2:42 PM Subject: Christ's birth, OT list anyone? was: Re: CS>Argyria yes. Other side effects no. Sounds like a great topic for the off-topic list :) His --- Dee wrote: I think we would open up a whole new 'can of worms' with this Debbie Dee ---Original Message--- From: Deborah Gerard Date: 22/12/2007 14:56:38 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Argyria yes. Other side effects no. Anyone who would take the time to read the scriptures for themselves would know this isn't the time of Christ's birth it is the time for His conception ..people don't want to think for themselves on any level. debbie Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>The Blue Man (Agryria) - Any Comments?
People are so used to NOT taking responsibility for themselves and the Nanny government doesn't help. This started when all the danged lawyers started suing for stupid stuff, like the lady and the McDonald's coffee. Come on now, how much common sense does it take to know that coffee is hot, and you need to be careful with it? Liz: The woman was elderly and was badly injured. Accidents happen. Faith G.
Re: CS>Argyria yes. Other side effects no.
David: Thanks for an absolutely smashing report.. I just love it. Faith G. - Original Message - From: alchemysa To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 6:07 PM Subject: CS>Argyria yes. Other side effects no. Argyria is the real deal but the other side effects are speculation. A few months ago I tracked the claims of seizures, neurological problems, kidney damage, indigestion, headaches, fatigue, etc, as far as I could and have found they were barely credible. The FDA gets its info from the National Center for Complimentary and Alternative Medicine. http://nccam.nih.gov/health/alerts/silver/ In turn, the NCCAM gets its info from the Natural Medicine Comprehensive Database. http://www.naturaldatabase.com I subscribed to that service and found that most of the claims are based on the speculative idea that drinking colloidal silver might induce the same symptoms as Metal Fume Fever. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_fume_fever Basically, metal fume fever is what you get if you inhale lungfulls of toxic metal fumes such as from welding galvanised iron or working in a metal foundry. The other main reference listed in the NMCD database is 'Silver Products for Medical Indications, Risk benefit Assessment , Journal of Toxicology 1996 Fung and Bowen'. I couldnt find this paper anywhere on the net so I had to buy it from the National Library. Its 8 pages, almost entirely about argyria, but with a couple of very unconvincing hypothesis', mentioned almost as an aside, that silver might cause other symptoms. The trail for the source of these hypothesis' then gets even more blurred. But I think they are based on experiments in the mid 80's in which rats were fed high doses of silver nitrate every day until they started to get a bit cranky. (About 140 days straight as I recall). Even the researchers in those experiments concluded that the doses were so high that they bore no relevence to a real human situation. So in the end I'd have to say that the proof that silver causes side effects other than argyria is extremely unconvincing. A few months ago here in Australia the TGA (our FDA) published an alert that colloidal silver had caused in an elderly man 'debilitating fatigue accompanied by blue skin discolouration, dilated cardiomyopathy, amnesia and incoherent speech.' On three ocassions I asked the TGA to add some reference to the alert that proves that silver could cause any of these symptons other than argyria. They couldn't, and in the end simply said that the doctors diagnosis was good enough for them. I asked 'How can a doctor make such a diagnosis when theres no research to prove that silver can cause such a thing?' They had no answer for that other than "Go away". David Fox News states: The FDA does not consider colloidal silver safe or effective to treat any disease or condition. In fact, taking it could have serious side effects, such as: - Argyria - which is an irreversible blue-gray discoloration of your skin, nails and gums - Seizures and other neurological problems - Kidney damage - Indigestion - Headaches - Fatigue - Skin irritation
Re: CS>Blue man / particle accretion
Bravo, bravo Marshall! What a great explanation. Thank you. Faith G. - Original Message - From: "Marshall Dudley" To: Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 3:36 PM Subject: Re: CS>Blue man / particle accretion Nenah Sylver wrote: - Original Message - From: "Marshall Dudley" To: Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 9:06 AM Subject: Re: CS>Blue man Once the silver particles are in the skin, then they can grow, even from EIS. That is why it is essential to NEVER take silver compounds which can cause the seeds to form in the skin in the first place. You want the ionic part to eventually plate out on the colloidal component of the CS in the blood stream, not on particles stuck in the skin. Marshall, This is very interesting. By what mechanism do the ionic particles attach to the particles that are stuck in the skin? The photographic development process. And, can I infer by your above statement that if an externally ingested silver solution were completely colloidal (rather than completely ionic, or a combination of ionic and colloidal), it would NOT attach to the particles stuck in the skin? That is correct, only silver compounds plate out on particles. See: http://silver-lightning.com/theory.html#Compounds *What happens when you take silver compounds.* A silver compound will typically become silver chloride as soon as it hits the stomach. The silver chloride is sparingly soluble, about .8 ppm. The dissolved silver chloride will move into the blood stream and once there will be exposed to chemicals that will induce the silver to plate out on any other silver particles present. However initially there will be no other silver particles present, so the silver chloride circulates in the blood until exposed to light in the skin, where they are photo reduced to silver atoms. This is the photographic process that occurs when you take a picture (with a film camera). Once the silver atoms are produced in the skin, then the rest of the silver chloride will begin reducing onto those particles making them grow very fast, and resulting in many of them getting stuck in the skin. Since the particles are so small, they will appear as black or blue, giving the skin a bluish cast. This is called argyria, and can result from taking silver compounds without any colloidal component. http://silver-lightning.com/theory.html#Internal *What happens to EIS when taken internally?* Since there are two components to EIS, then two different things happen. The colloidal portion diffuses through the stomach wall rather quickly and enters the blood stream as long as the particles are small enough. The ionic portion is a combination of silver hydroxide and silver oxide. While in solution they continually convert from one to the other and back again. Each has a solubility of about 13 ppm, so any EIS which is less than about 26 ppm and a pH of 7 will be totally dissolved. Upon contact with the HCl (hydrochloric acid) of the stomach both of these compounds will immediately form silver chloride. The silver chloride has a solubility of .8 ppm, so most of the silver chloride will precipitate out, but the remaining part will quickly move into the blood stream. As it does, that which precipitated will redissolve and move into the blood stream as well. The end result is that most of the silver chloride will move into the blood stream over time, but at a lower rate than the colloidal portion. Once it is in the blood stream it is exposed to the same effects we discussed for silver compounds above. Basically it will try to plate out on any silver particles it finds. Since there will be colloidal silver which already passed into the blood, there will be lots of particles for it to plate out on. So in short order the silver in the silver chloride plates out onto the colloidal particles already there, and they grow by a small amount. Typically for an EIS of 10% particulate content, the particles should grow to about double in size. This is insufficient to cause them to get caught up into tissues, and they eventually get removed by the kidneys. So, as it turns out. colloidal silver is actually a prophylactic against argyria, instead of a cause as some would have you believe. *Marshall* Many thanks. Nenah -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Water Distillers
The Group may have discussed this before, most likely, but could someone please suggest a good inexpensive water distiller? Much appreciated. Thanks. Faith G.
Re: CS>what did I do wrong?
Thanks. - Original Message - From: "Clayton Family" To: Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 9:04 PM Subject: Re: CS>what did I do wrong? On Dec 20, 2007, at 7:41 PM, faith gagne wrote: What on earth is a wall wart? Faith G I have been told it is an affectionate term for the power supply plugs that convert ac power to dc power, like for recharging a cell phone, for instance. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>what did I do wrong?
What on earth is a wall wart? Faith G - Original Message - From: "Clayton Family" To: Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 5:27 PM Subject: CS>what did I do wrong? Dear Esteemed and Learned List Members, I was fooling around with a wall wart that is listed as 24V and 500mA, and had it hooked up in series with my radioshack multimeter. It tested as 30.6V, and after I switched it to mA, the meter failed. Now it just reads micro volts and won't read anything else. Dang! Maybe I had it on micro amps instead of milliamps, and would that break it? I need another multimeter! But I don't want to just turn around and break this one too. Thanks, Kathryn -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>The Blue Man (Agryria) - Any Comments?
Kirsteen The gods of the Disc have never bothered much about judging the souls of the dead, and so people only go to hell if that's where they believe, in their deepest heart, that they deserve to go. Which they won't do if they don't know about it. This explains why it is so important to shoot missionaries on sight. -- (Terry Pratchett, Eric) .. UGH! Faith G. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>The Blue Man (Agryria) - Any Comments?
Really. I'd like to know what kind of cs he drank, how much of it he drank, and over what period of time. Interesting. And a bit scary. But then, maybe Chuck has it right and the man is just a metaphor. (grin) Faith G. - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 8:08 PM Subject: CS>The Blue Man (Agryria) - Any Comments? http://abclocal.go.com/kfsn/story?section=news/local&id=5843725 Whoa, this is really blue... Chuck Are you sure it isn't time for a colorful metaphor? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Rebuttals please
- Original Message - From: "Ode Coyote" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 4:58 AM Subject: Re: CS>Rebuttals please Just because something is toxic if you get too much built up, doesn't mean that you can live without it. Copper and Zinc is toxic too..just about everything is. "Excito-toxins" ?? Who!! Bd!!!Except without any, you'd be dead. The nerves need excito-toxins to function. Ode Hello Ode. In your opinion, how much selenium should one take on a daily basis? In my daily vitamin I get 200 mcg selenium and 400 .U. vitamin E. That should cover it for me, I think. Merry Christmas to you and to everybody. Faith G. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Selenomethionine
Hi Dee. I just looked on Natures Way site and could not find I-selenomthionine. what is it anyway> Thanks. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Dee To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 8:48 AM Subject: Re: CS>Selenomethionine It's ok, I found the Now brand which *is* l-selenomethionine so that is the one I will get. Thanx Dee ---Original Message--- From: Dee Date: 16/12/2007 13:38:39 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>Selenomethionine Hi Duncan, I just found your site and the Nature's Way selenium. I did actually find this brand on my own search, but discarded it because it said it is selenomethionine not l-selenomethionine which I had read was not as good as the latter and still has to be chelated. Any comments on this? Dee <>
Re: CS>A new mainstream "politically well connected" form of ionic silver?
Are the followign statements true? How can an ion "Die"?From the article: "Now it's interesting to note that silver needs to reach a state of ionization before it can demonstrate any efficacy at all. And although this was sufficient for maintaining water purity, the ions have a very short life. They'll last for minutes to maybe hours. So you need a constant resupply. Now the next stage of evolution in the technology is moving into a colloidal form. Colloidal form of silver is simply small particles of elemental silver in a solution. The advantage over the solid silver is simple. For the same given mass or weight of the product, there is more surface area. Hence, more ions will be thrown off, but still the same drawback with regard to the short life for the ion itself. The next stage of evolution was moving into ionic silver using ionic generators. Now this is used today. It's been used for several decades, while hospitals will use this silver ion generators, public pools, recreational type water applications, generally a recirculating type system. Again, as long as it's plugged in and you're generating ions, you have protection. Unplug it, the ions die in minutes to maybe an hour or two." Faith G Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 3:18 AM Subject: CS>A new mainstream "politically well connected" form of ionic silver? This below came from CS forum on curezone Here is the link to the story about a new "unique and patented" form of ionic silver which claims to have some serious mainstream connections and be "politically well connected": http://seekingalpha.com/article/55664-pure-bioscience-the-wall-street-analyst-forum-presentation-transcript -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Fw: Merk drug company vaccines admits injecting cancer viruses
Wow. Thank you for sharing this. - Original Message - From: Carl Deb Charter To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 11:50 PM Subject: CS>Fw: Merk drug company vaccines admits injecting cancer viruses http://www.liveleak.com:80/view?i=327_1195303011
CS>Emphysema
A family member has emphysema (sp?). Will CS help with this problem? Thanks. Faith G.
Re: CS>Tissue regeneration
Nancy I am so sorry to hear about your accident of cutting your index finger so badly. It just gives me the shivers. Thank you for sharing the experience with all of us. I hope you are well. Faith G -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>CS Settled Out
Hi Dianne. The health food store is not far, but on-line might be more
economical. I haven't the faintest idea what they go for, or even if the store
here would carry them. Thanks.
Faith G.
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From: Dianne France
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: CS>CS Settled Out
Faith
Bought ours at the health food store. Also have found them on line if a
store is a distance.
Dianne
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From: faith gagne
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 8:05 AM
Subject: Re: CS>CS Settled Out
Where does one get ph test strips? Thanks.
Faith G
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>I wrote: >I just tested my six quarts of CS with laser and ph test
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Re: CS>CS Settled Out
That is good information Ode. Thanks. Faith G. - Original Message - From: "Ode Coyote" To: Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 7:18 AM Subject: Re: CS>CS Settled Out The max pressure on the side of a tire is relative to the load rating of the tire as that relates to deflection and sidewall flex. 2,500 pound load @ 45 PSI..for instance. To get the proper pressure for *that* tire on *your* car, park of a flat hard surface and inflate the tire till the edges of the tread surface just clear the pavement for a good balance between center wear on the straight road and edge wear on the corners. Keep a close eye on tread wear. Center getting thin? Too much pressure. Edges getting thin? Not enough. Sticking packing tape across the tread will tell you exactly where the rubber is coming off within a few miles to tweek alignment toe in, camber and pressure just right. [Sometimes the alignment shop specs are off ] Ode Many mechanics tend to under-inflate tires because they, or the manufacturer, feel that you will like the softer ride. The recommended pressure from the car companies is usually never as much pressure as that indicated on the tire itself. At least that is my experience. I always inflate to the rated pressure on the tire. Dan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.17/1178 - Release Date: 12/8/2007 11:59 AM
