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CSA new blue man
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CSCS and fish
Recently a friend called to enthusiastically report this: He has a couple of those large fish tanks full of expensive, exotic fish. One of the fish was sick, sluggish and covered with a grey film, eyes starting to glaze over. His wife took the fish out of the tank and put it in a bowl of CS. The next day, the eyes were clear and the grey film was gone. Cool. Anyone else had a similar experience? How about with other kinds of pets? (Cats, dogs, birds) Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CS'Health Canada strikes
See: http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/ahc-asc/media/advisories-avis/2007/2007_115_e.html So it begins here in Canada Get news delivered with the All new Yahoo! Mail. Enjoy RSS feeds right on your Mail page. Start today at http://mrd.mail.yahoo.com/try_beta?.intl=ca -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSunsubscribe
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CSSodium chlorite
Marshall, Where did you obtain sodium chlorite and how much did it cost? Terry Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSSpectrophotometer needed
I recently decided I would like to acquire a spectrophotometer to accurately test ppm in the CS I make. I went to ebay and discovered that there are many devices that have that label. Can anyone here tell me what type of spectrophotometer I need to accurately determine ppm in CS? Where would I be likely to find a used (lower-priced) one? I remember Bob Burger once said that he had paid $150 for his used one, but I don't see any prices that low on ebay. Terry Chamberlin Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail at http://mrd.mail.yahoo.com/try_beta?.intl=ca -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSVit C ascorbates
Harold said, To smooth out ascorbic acid and make Sodium ascorbate, which is a better way to take... Actually, calcium ascorbate is much better than sodium ascorbate. Even potassium ascorbate or magnesium ascorbate (both hard to find) would be better than extra sodium. Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSPlug-in products
Received from a friend: Received from a friend who is in the property insurance business. It is well worth reading. This is one of those e-mails that if you didn't send it, rest assured someone on your list will suffer for not reading it. The original message was written by a lady whose brother and his wife learned a hard lesson this past week. Their house burned down... Nothing left but ashes. They have good insurance so the house will be replaced with most of the contents - that is the good news. However, they were sick when they found out the cause of the fire. The insurance investigator sifted through the ashes for several hours. He had the cause of the fire traced to the master bathroom. He asked her sister-in-law what she had plugged in the bathroom. She listed the normal thingscurling iron, blow dryer. He kept saying to her, No, this would be something that would disintegrate at high temperatures. Then her sister-in-law remembered she had a Glade Plug-In, in the bathroom. The investigator said that was the cause of the fire. He said he has seen more house fires started with the plug-in type room fresheners than anything else. He said the plastic they are made from is THIN plastic. He also said that in every case there was nothing left to prove that it even existed. When the investigator looked in the wall plug, sure enough the two prongs left from the plug-in were still in there. Her sister-in-law had one of the plug-ins that had a small night light built in it. She said she had noticed that the light would dim and then finally go out. She would walk in to the bathroom a few hours later, and the light would be back on again. The investigator said that it was getting too hot, and would dim and go out rather than just blow the light bulb. Once it cooled down it would come back on. That is a warning sign. The investigator said he personally wouldn't have any type of plug in fragrance device anywhere in his house. He has seen too many places that have been burned down due to them. HOUSE FIRES PLEASE READ (From Chief Dornell) Ok, I had one similar to this at my place in the mountains; it used the slide-in packets. Last weekend I unplugged it to use the outlet and found that the unit had melted and scorched the face of the outlet so I decided to replace the outlet I went to my panel and shut off the circuit breaker. Upon pulling the cover plate I found that the outlet had burnt away, melted a considerable portion in the interior plastic wall box and wire insulation. Obviously, this got very hot and I was very lucky that this did not cause a fire in the wall because I would have certainly lost my place. Notice that my breaker did not trip and I manually shut it off. I need to investigate why. Perhaps it was a steady current and never caused a surge or arcing that would have tripped the circuit breaker. I am encouraging everyone I know to pass on the fact that these are potentially dangerous. The Consumer Products Safety Commission does not have a recall on the specific model that I was using. However, they will be hearing from me. Our Fire Prevention personnel will be using the remnant that I brought back to help spread the word through the Fire Prevention community as well. If you use something similar to this or other plug-in products take the time to pull them and toss them. We can't afford to be the proving grounds for these devices. It is my opinion that these are unsafe and should be pulled before something tragic occurs. This danger in addition to the toxic chemicals they fill your house with. Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail at http://mrd.mail.yahoo.com/try_beta?.intl=ca -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSNancy - hot tub death
Nancy referred to her husband as Mike. The article lists it as Mariano. Could be a nickname, I suppose. But I thought she had been killed in a car accident? Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail at http://mrd.mail.yahoo.com/try_beta?.intl=ca -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCS video
Dee said, Excellent video and very convincing, although it would make people wary of other products other than the one being sold That was my complaint. The speaker manipulated the audiences impressions. He never SAID that all other products were dangerous or ineffective, but he implied it (plausible deniability). He started right off by defining 'ionic' as a chemical process, which CAN be accurate. But, in fact, 'ionic' simply means a particle with a charge, whether caused by a chemical or electric process (as we do). From that point on, I knew not to trust him, as he either was not the authority he claimed to be, or else he was in fact deliberately misleading his audience, which he was. He made the distinct point that everybody else but them uses DC electricity to brew their CS, then referred to 'ionic' as coming from a chemical process, which would NOT be a DC process. The great effort he made to cause the unscientific to come to the conclusions he wanted them to (that their product was fundamentally different than and superior to anything else on the planet) did more to convince me that, were my product (or almost anyone else's) to have been that used in their testing, the results would have been similar. If I had the money to buy EPA officials, I could do what they are doing (they are owned, in fact, by Clifton Silver Mines). It was the same ole Barnum Bailey type of marketing, conning the gullible, taking advantage of the listeners ignorance and lack of familiarity with the subject to misguide (deceive) them into coming to the right conclusions, promising wonderous results and threatening dire consequences for even considering the competitions products. The ole Carrot Stick ploy. To have to resort to this kind of marketing hype convinces me of the validity of our own home-made stuff even more. Methinks Thou Dost Protest too much (or too dishonestly). Terry chamberlin Get a sneak peak at messages with a handy reading pane with All new Yahoo! Mail: http://mrd.mail.yahoo.com/try_beta?.intl=ca -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSNancy's journal
If you don't mind my asking..how, when and why did you come by Nancy's journal. Nancy called me about five years ago to inquire about purchasing one of my 10-gallon per batch devices. When she told me her story, I said, Can you write this down and send it to me? This is amazing! She said, I'll do better, I'll send you my journal. I tidied it up a bit, corrected misspellings, etc., and have been sending it to folks ever since. Terry Chamberlin Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail at http://mrd.mail.yahoo.com/try_beta?.intl=ca -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSMelamine
Mary said, I am a non toxic house cleaner everyone tells me to use Mr. clean magic erasers, for a long time I could not find what it is made from. Well I found it-- melamine foam. Is this the same melamine found in the pet foods that are killing our pets See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melamine Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail at http://mrd.mail.yahoo.com/try_beta?.intl=ca -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSNancy's death
Alternative therapy may have led to deaths Of all the stupid, irrelevant, misleading titles to put on an article, this takes the cake. Nothing in the article even suggested that her involvement in Alternative Therapy had anything to do with her death. Is a hot tub alternative therapy? Maybe the golf cart was alternative therapy? And no, unless they drove the golf cart into the hot tub and crushed themselves, it had nothing to do with their deaths. On the amazing side, the quotations from her journal would certainly catch my attention if I was an MS victim reading this article. Make free worldwide PC-to-PC calls. Try the new Yahoo! Canada Messenger with Voice at http://ca.messenger.yahoo.com/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCancer
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CSCS video
Somebody watch this video and give feedback. (Techies) http://nutronix.typepad.com/healthyagainbiz/2007/04/keith_moeller_o.html Get a sneak peak at messages with a handy reading pane with All new Yahoo! Mail: http://mrd.mail.yahoo.com/try_beta?.intl=ca -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSIn memory of Nancy
Nancy used to call me each year or so to update me about how she was doing. She had purchased one of my 10-gallon-per batch CS-brewers about five years ago, which enabled her to give away a lot of CS. She was a very generous woman. She was a positive, cheerful, hopeful person whom I enjoyed chatting with. I know she is having more fun right now than we are! My prayers go out to her husband. For those of you whom I have not sent it to, I have a copy of her 2-year journal that she kept as she vanquished MS with CS. Contact me and I will send it to you. Terry Chamberlin Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSGood farmers/dairies vs commercial
Becca said, Those cows [in Oregon] lived in large pastures, only going in to the barn for milking twice a day, or if one was sick. I also think it is the Beef cattle that are fed the unspeakable parts, and I agree that that should stop immediately, if not sooner!!! I wish that were automatically true, Becca. To make sure, go visit a local dairyman. Ask him if he feeds his cows any grains in addition to the grass they eat (he almost has to, or his cows will not give him enough milk to compete against the other dairies). If he does, is it organic (meaning, nothing but grains, grown without pesticides, herbicides, etc.)? If it is not, the milking feed grain is 80% likely to contain rendered animals, which is what I was referring to. The fact is, apart from unusually good nutrition (truly organic), the addition of protein to the cows feed (whatever the protein source) increases their milk production (at the expense of the cows health). In fact, nearly ALL commercial feed-grain is supplemented with rendered animals. Yes, they give to beef cows whatever will cause them to get fat (animal parts of every imaginable species, sawdust, cement, etc.) since the cow is sold by the pound. Since the cows are not going to live very long headed as they are to the dinner table they do not need to be healthy, merely big, fat and profitable. Why sawdust? Hey! It is fiber! Plus, it keeps the cement moving (I am sorry, I did not make this up, it is really true). If you actually want to know more about this (few people do it is much too upsetting), contact me and I will send you the info. Beware, it is trauma-inducing. I am not a vegetarian, but I will no more buy commercial beef or chicken than I would buy commercial rat meat (come to think of it, there is a closer similarity to that than you think!). I buy from local hobby farm folks who disagree with the need to use antibiotics as a disease preventative, nor to inject steroids to get more milk. Their chickens run around and eat bugs and seeds and weeds and get sunshine and fresh air and lay eggs it takes a knife to break open. I do not need to be a vegetarian with food like that available! If you can find small farmers with that philosophy, support them! Terry Chamberlin Get a sneak peak at messages with a handy reading pane with All new Yahoo! Mail: http://mrd.mail.yahoo.com/try_beta?.intl=ca -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSMisc topics
Zoe said, OK my question is, is this [water] good enough to be making CS or should I just use it for drinking purposes? Any water is good enough (except for water with toxic chemicals). The point is to try to make clear CS (or as clear as you can). If your water turns yellow or murky after a certain amount of brewing time, brew slightly less time the next batch. As long as it is clear or nearly clear, the silver particles are too tiny to be of any concern. The more minerals are in your water, the sooner it will acquire a color or become murky while brewing (from the silver particles aggregating to the minerals). The simple, fool-proof CS-brewing principle is: brew it as long as you can while still ending up with clear or near-clear CS. It does not matter what water you use or what minerals are in the water if your CS is clear. If your water is so full of minerals that you cannot brew more than a minute or so before it becomes cloudy, you can still brew perfectly good, perfectly safe CS, but it will have less actual silver in it and you may need to drink more of it to get the same benefit. If you use something like well-water (full of minerals), it would measure at a high PPM, but not all of that PPM will be silver. Wendy said, I know we've talked about vitamin A supplementation recently. Does anyone have links or information on 'how much' we and our children REALLY need or can handle. I quote from a site: 100,000 IU per day can be tolerated by adults with no serious side effects but children who ingest 50,000 IU per day do show toxicity. http://foodsupplements.homestead.com/A.html When you look at government standards of optimal Vit A dosages, the same thing occurs as when you look at what the government says about colloidal silver. The government/medical/pharmaceutical folks absolutely refuse to make any distinction between silver compounds (which are technically colloidal) and pure, water-and-silver, electro-colloids. With Vit A, they also refuse to make any distinction between natural, fish-oil Vit A and synthetic, unnatural substances such as retinyl or retinol palmitate (made from retinoic acid). See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retinyl_palmitate There was a doctor some years ago who was treating cancer with mega-doses of Vit A. (Ive lost the book, so cannot remember his name.) He gave his patients 3 million I.U.s of fish-oil-derived Vit A every day with no sign of overdose. He said every recorded case of Vit A overdose was from synthetic Vit A. He also had such success with cancer he was persecuted. The Inuit Eskimo Indians who live far north and never see a white man (nor eat his diet) average 650,000 I.U.s of Vit A per day all winter with never a sign of overdose. Even with its toxicity, retinoic acid has benefits. See: http://lungdiseases.about.com/b/a/166861.htm www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/02/05/1044318669710.html www.breastcancer-treatment.us/news/latest-news/vitamin-a-and-c-synergistically-fight-breast-cancer-cell-growth.html www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2006/01/wu_vitamin_a.html On the subject of cancer, see this very good site: http://www.longislandpress.co.uk/fightingcancer/ Terry Chamberlin Get news delivered with the All new Yahoo! Mail. Enjoy RSS feeds right on your Mail page. Start today at http://mrd.mail.yahoo.com/try_beta?.intl=ca -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSHealth issues
Simeon said, Will you please share some of your successes with fighting disease or direct us if we can read about them on the internet. Do you mean specific diseases, or just ones general health? If you have specific health issues, post them on this list, there are many here (in addition to myself) who have had success with many issues who will be delighted to share with you. You want to start educating and empowering yourself and reprogramming yourself away from the allopathic 'make the symptoms go away and that must mean that you're OK' philosophy (hey, I just made that up!). I have an info CD that is the accumulation of years of searching for answers for myself and others that is (gasp!) for sale. (Sorry, Mike) It contains 1200+ articles on 100+ topics. And it only costs $25! If you are interested, contact me off-list. Terry Chamberlin Get news delivered with the All new Yahoo! Mail. Enjoy RSS feeds right on your Mail page. Start today at http://mrd.mail.yahoo.com/try_beta?.intl=ca -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSWorking with your doctor
you need, as you keep talking with others of like mind (HELP your body, not force it), what you need to know about resolving your own health issues will rise to the surface, will become clearer and clearer to you, what you should do. The PROCESS of searching for answers will change you and make you able to benefit from the answers that come to you. That searching process is an important part of experiencing healing. Be aware: the searching process is at first hard, and fraught with discouragement and despair. It is when you KEEP searching when it seems a waste of time, when you are even criticized for searching but you refuse to stop, that something wonderful will happen inside you. I am not talking in theory here, my searching has been all my life, and I would not have missed it for the world. 'Holistic' means approaching the problem from all angles, or as many as you can. Good health is not found in taking a pill, whatever that pill contains. Good health is found in approaching life in as healthy a way as you can. That includes hope and faith and love and humor as well as diet and exercise and healthy therapies. I have become the youth leader at a small church recently (imagine that! a 59-year old youth leader!), and the last few months have done more for my health than anything I have ever done with diet and nutrition. My energy, frame of mind, diet, sleeping habits and zest for life have improved exponentially. The kids (high school) in this group do not know what to make of me. I am balding, gray, wrinkled and wear a dental bridge that does not always stay in place, but I have been places and done things they have only heard about. My energy equals their own and my zest for life, love, joy and adventure perplexes them. They have started bringing their friends to be exposed to what is happening. I had forgotten (this is not the first youth group I have led, but it has been a long time since the last) how much love, compassion and passion for life energizes your mind and body. I am convinced that love and laughter are a more effective cancer therapy than nutrition. Better yet, do them both! Terry Chamberlin Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSDistilled water vs others
What do people think of the discussions between distilled water and ionized water for drinking? Oh, boy, you put your foot in it this time! From one of my articles, my own slant: WATER: Everyone today is aware of the issue of water purity and the dangers of chlorinated tap water. But the importance of water in our diet is not confined to water purity alone. Water is a carrier in our bodies. It first is used to carry nutrients throughout our bodies to the locations where those nutrients are needed. Then it is used to carry metabolic waste-products and toxins from throughout the body to the eliminative organs to be disposed of. To do this, the water must be empty of all minerals and chemicals. If it is not, the body must first distill its own water before utilizing it, which consumes extra metabolic energy. This full and empty aspect of water can be seen when you stir sugar into a glass of water. The first spoonful dissolves and disappears into the water, but if you keep stirring more sugar into the water, eventually the sugar stops dissolving. This is because the water has become saturated with sugar. In the same way, if the water we put into our bodies is already full of various substances, the water will need to be emptied by the body before it can carry the important nutrients extracted from our food. 80% of our body is composed of water, and water is the universal solvent and lubricant. It is the primary ingredient in the process of digestion, and plays an important part in every metabolic process that occurs within our body. There is controversy over the theoretical value of the minerals found in water, but because of the importance to the body for water to be empty, water is not an essential source of minerals. Indeed, according to Dr. Carey Reams, more usable minerals are garnered from the air we breathe than are found in water (which demonstrates the value of clean, pure air!). In addition to this, the minerals found in water are inorganic, metallic minerals, not readily or easily assimilable by the body, unlike food-derived minerals, which the plant or animal they come from has converted to an organic state. Add to this the uncertainty of the wide variety of kinds and concentrations of different minerals in the water which can be found in wells, streams and reservoirs throughout the country, and it's clear that water is an uncertain and sometimes even risky source of minerals. Although there are numerous processes used to purify water (charcoal filtered, reverse-osmosis, deionised, etc.), steam distillation is the process which fully purifies and empties the water of not only all pollutants, but of all minerals. Charcoal filtering is an excellent method for removing most pollutants, but does not remove minerals. Reverse-osmosis can remove pollutants and minerals, but creates a negative-energy state on the molecular level that interferes with healthy metabolism. De-ionization removes minerals, but the resin beds of this system are breeding grounds for bacteria. Furthermore, de-ionization is not efficient in removing synthetic chemicals such as herbicides, pesticides, insecticides or industrial solvents. Steam distillation duplicates the process that occurs in nature (rainwater). It also charges the water with energy on a molecular level, which energy is utilized by the body. In fact, the only water that is more charged with energy than distilled water is the heavy water found in nuclear reactors. One of the fallacies you might hear concerning distilled water is the idea that distilled water will remove or leach minerals from your body. But, in fact, rather than removing minerals from your body, your body must first remove the minerals from the water you drink in order to best utilize it. Rain water has always been the purest natural source of water (though not any longer, of course, because of pollution in the air). Rain water is nature's steam distilled water, using the power of the sun. End of article. Let me add that I very much like the suggestion of Mike Devour about adding Concentrace to distilled water to get a mineral water with non-metallic minerals that are easily assimilated by the body. But also, I like to give my body empty water that it can use to cleanse itself, as well as carry essential nutrients to where they are needed. Terry Chamberlin Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail at http://mrd.mail.yahoo.com/try_beta?.intl=ca -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSNot pH again! Yep.
is that there are important qualifiers to be taken into consideration. Even in my own case, I have been representing pH in simplistic terms in order to present the basic concept. In my own practise, pH is only one of five tests, and each test result affects and qualifies the results of the other tests. In addition to the four other tests besides pH, other qualifiers include age, weight, diet, stress level and belief system. A client with a urine or saliva pH of, say, 5.5 (a very acid pH) will concern me more if they are 70+ years old than if they are 25; if they are greatly overweight than if they are very thin; if their outlook on life is negative and discouraged than if they are hopeful. I have had much greater success with folks who have a deep faith and hope in God than with negative atheists; with people who strive to love others than with people who feel that life is every-man-for-himself. I test to see how well the client is metabolizing proteins (urea levels), which is an important qualifier of pH; how high the total electrolite level is in their body, which also qualifies pH readings. If the level of cellular debris (dead cells leaving their body) is high or low, that greatly qualifies pH readings. Dr. Reams taught that 6.4/6.4 was the perfect pH IF you were perfectly healthy. In practise, I try to get the acidic pH of my clients up above what I consider balanced for awhile (7.4-7.6), overcompensating until their metabolism balances out. But I do even that far less with folks who are younger than with seniors. It is not just, Are you acid? It is also, How long have you been acid? Overly-acidic pH generally indicates a deficiency; Overly-alkaline pH generally indicates an excess. In some ways, both affect you the same. He considers a healthy first saliva test of the day to be around 6.4 to 6.6, but ideally 6.7 to 7. He also suggests doing a lemon juice saliva test. The body should react quickly to an extremely acid condition by flushing alkalinity into the mouth and within minutes we should have readings of 8 or above, if not, this is apparently another indication of lack of alkaline minerals. Actually, because I am primarily concerned with anionic/cationic rather than alkaline/acid, I consider the above concept to be erroneous. Fresh lemon juice is pure anionic (which normally corresponds to alkaline). After it has been exposed to air for 20-30 minutes, it becomes cationic (which normally corresponds to acidic). Dr. Reams used fresh-squeezed lemon juice to initiate healing in the body. It was so powerful that, if one is not careful, it can cause a healing crisis. Strangely, although I reject the concept that alkaline pH is healthy, with most of my clients I strive to bring them up into the alkaline pH range, at least initially. What I am finally after is BALANCED pH. Terry Chamberlin Get news delivered with the All new Yahoo! Mail. Enjoy RSS feeds right on your Mail page. Start today at http://mrd.mail.yahoo.com/try_beta?.intl=ca -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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supply of the Wallach stuff will cost you at least $60, plus shipping. Terry Chamberlin Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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You have to see this. http://www.sonnyradio.com/motheroftheyear.htm Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail at http://mrd.mail.yahoo.com/try_beta?.intl=ca -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSpH, etc.
Dan said, Is it possible for you to give the actual pH ranges for the states referred to below? Also, is 6.4/6.4 correct? That is slightly acid, and I have heard figures indicating it should be 7.4/7.4. In a laboratory, the pH range for chemicals is 0-14, which would make 7.0 balanced. Dr. Reams taught that 6.4 was balanced for the human metabolism (you are probably referring to blood pH, which must stay very close to 7.4 7.35-7.45). Since 6.5 is 10X as alkaline as 6.4, and 6.6 is 10X as alkaline as 6.5, then you can see why I would consider 7.4 to be quite alkaline. Every person I have tested since 1984, when I first started testing folks, who had pH in the 7.0-8.0 range were all suffering from the kinds of issues that overly-alkaline people have: constipation, higher body temperature, sinus issues, headaches, ear infections, heart and lung issues, body odor, upper skeletal and shoulder problems...the list goes on. The ranges I think you are asking about are regarding this that I described: From balanced pH it will go to double alkaline (urine/saliva), then acid urine and alkaline saliva, then alkaline urine and acid saliva, then double acid, then death. If that is not what you were asking about, ask again. Acid is anything below 6.4, alkaline is anything over it. Double alkaline can be 6.5/6.5 all the way up to 8.4/8.4 (the highest pH I ever encountered in a client), or higher, although folks with pH that high are in a very serious condition. The pH paper I use only goes as low as 5.5, but I once had a woman client with a pH of 4.2/4.4 (using my pH chemicals to test her). She later died from her terminal cancer. I believe I could have helped her, but she just would not do what I recommended (I dont like to take pills; That stuff tastes icky.). The client with the 8.4/8.4 pH had a bowel movement every 3 weeks. She owned a Health Food store and advised her clients on appropriate supplements. She scorned my recommendations and thought she merely needed more fiber in her diet. I assure you, fiber would have made absolutely no difference! She could eat herbal laxatives like candy with no affect! She was a prime candidate for abdominal cancer of some kind (uterus, colon, liver, etc.). Terry Chamberlin Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail at http://mrd.mail.yahoo.com/try_beta?.intl=ca -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Dee said, Actually, that doesn't sound bad to me Terry. I have just paid £13 ($22) something for 57mls. I expect the postage from you would be prohibitive though wouldn't it? Do you have a web site Terry? Give me your address and I will determine the exact shipping and let you know. Also, how many bottles? Obviously, the larger the order, the cheaper per bottle the shipping. I do not have a website because of the legal issues with both recommending CS and also selling it. Clayton Family said, there is a lot of salt in Concentrace- more so. Actually, no. The company that bottles Concentrace takes out most of the sodium before selling it. Sandee said, Hi There Terry - thanks for this - I have heard both arguments before however you put it very clearly, now where can I get the Concentrace at a reasonable price? Call whatever HF stores are near you and ask for it. If they do not carry it, contact friends who are not near you whom you visit periodically and ask them to call the HF stores near them. If no one carries it, I can ship it to you - $30 plus shipping. Terry Chamberlin Get news delivered with the All new Yahoo! Mail. Enjoy RSS feeds right on your Mail page. Start today at http://mrd.mail.yahoo.com/try_beta?.intl=ca -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Wendy said, is this the same for children as well as adults? I was thinking we can all do it at the same time as I am curious to know how the kids are doing. Yes, you can test the whole family each morning and evening. Send me the numbers for everyone and I will explain them. Folks, I have no hidden sales agenda in doing this. I will sell you pH paper or Concentrace if you cannot find it at your local HF store, but both of them will be cheaper if you find them in a store. It costs me nothing to tell you what your pH numbers mean, and if it helps you, I am happy. Duncan said, ..it's rare that someone is too alkaline, and if you were, the yogurt would be a good bet. Most children below 14 or 15 years old are usually alkaline (but less and less as time goes by), and I still run into the occasional adult who is. From the time you are born, your pH follows a pattern. A healthy baby will have balanced numbers 6.4/6.4 (urine/saliva). Unless they are fortunate enough to have health fanatic parents (lets face it, that is what you have to be today), and parents who also passed on excellent health to their children, the health of the child will follow a predictable decline pattern as indicated in their pH: From balanced pH it will go to double alkaline (urine/saliva), then acid urine and alkaline saliva, then alkaline urine and acid saliva, then double acid, then death. Note: Depending on how mineralized/demineralized their body was to begin with, that double acid pH can last for many years before serious health issues/death occurs. In the early 80s, I did not see double acid except in seniors. Now I am sometimes finding it in teenagers. You will notice that arthritis, cancer and heart disease are also occurring in children today. There is a connection. In the pH decline pattern I described above, I did not mention fluctuating pH. Most folks between about 30-60 years old have fluctuating pH. How it fluctuates, how often it fluctuates, how far (wide) it fluctuates, how consistent the fluctuation is, these all tell me things about what is going on inside you. What health is primarily about is the mineral situation inside the body. (I am speaking about the physical dimension, not the emotional/spiritual dimension.) We are MADE of minerals, and our bodies use up minerals each day, and the condition/balance of our health affects the utilization of those minerals. The pH gives me insight into how low our savings account of minerals is (what Dr. Reams called our Mineral Reserve). We are born with a certain Mineral Reserve, and that is that (it is like being born large-boned or small-boned you cannot change from one to the other). Dr. Reams explained that if you were born with a Mineral Reserve of picking an arbitrary number 100 (whatever), and you squandered much of it being raised on the Standard North American Diet, what you would give to your children would be less than YOU started out with. If they do the same, passing on to their children a bit less than they started out with, you can see what is happening in our country as the generations go by. Remember, what you were born with is it, and even if you become a health freak and eat/exercise/supplement/think/live in an amazingly healthy way, the most you can accomplish is to regain what was lost and approach what you were born with. Sigh. I have probably put a quarter in the Controversial Discussion machine now! Maybe I better quit while I am behind. One last point. In attempting to balance your pH, it is NOT enough just to supplement the correct calcium. The REST of the minerals, especially the trace minerals, must accompany the right calcium. That is why I am always recommending Concentrace. Terry Chamberlin -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSpH testing instructions
Here is the instruction portion of my pH testing page: Performing the pH tests To perform the pH tests for yourself to determine your calcium and nutritional imbalances, or prior to my performing the rest of the Bioanalysis tests, you will need to test your urine and saliva each morning and evening for 6 days in a row. The first time you urinate each morning is too concentrated to use for testing, so do not test that. The exception to this would be if you have already used the washroom only a few hours before arising for the day. The first test should be before eating in the morning. Also, do not do any tests for an hour after eating (such as in the evening). You also should not have drunk anything just (say, 20 minutes) before testing saliva. You will need to put a sample of each in separate small, clean containers to dip the pH paper in. Do not put the pH paper in your mouth or urinate directly onto the pH paper (the chemicals can come off). After you have dipped a piece of the pH paper (3/8-1/2 long) into the specimen, immediately compare it to the color chart on the side of the pH paper container. Use a separate pH strip for each specimen and each test. I would recommend testing in the morning before eating or drinking anything. Even if you drink water, you should allow 15-20 minutes afterwards before testing saliva. In the evening, testing should be at least one hour after eating. You dont have to follow a rigid schedule, but neither should you test at 7:00 AM one morning and 11:30 the next morning. Try to keep it within a reasonable period, say between 7:00 8:00 each morning (or 9:00-10:00, or something like that) and the same in the evening, say, between 7:00-8:00, or 10:00-11:00 each evening. Try to do it during the same time periods each day. Try to allow at least 8 hours between morning and evening testing times. Terry Chamberlin -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Pat said, I have questions too.how to use Concentrace so you don't have to taste it. I've mixed it in juice, but yuck! Concentrace mixes best in salty-tasting items. I put it in soups and stews without noticing it. Here is the content from an article about it: Concentrace usage The first thing to understand about taking Concentrace is that it is the most concentrated mineral supplement being sold today. When you first start taking Concentrace, your body may be amazed and even stunned at the amount of minerals it is receiving. It may have trouble assimilating them until it gets used to it. Many folks start off taking half what the label suggests, until their body can adjust to it. One half teaspoon of Concentrace provides more minerals than todays modern diet provides in a week, including minerals that are not found at all in processed foods. If you take more than your body can assimilate, your body will get rid of the excess through loose stools or even diarrhea. If this happens, cut back or even stop for a day, then resume with a lower amount. After a day or two, you can usually increase your dose. Many people, wanting to remineralize their bodies after years of eating mineral-poor processed foods, will gradually increase their intake until they reach the loose stools level, then cut back slightly. I have clients who take one teaspoon twice a day without any reaction. How to get around the flavor: Concentrace mixes in well with soups and stews and other salty-tasting foods. You can mix it in pizza, spaghetti and lasagna sauce. Im told it mixes well with tomato and V-8 juice (I have not tried it). If mixed into apple juice into which you have also stirred nutritional yeast, you cannot taste the Concentrace. If you put 2 drops per 8 oz. of your drinking water, you will barely taste it, and if you are drinking the amount of water you should be drinking, you will get a lot of minerals that way. Or of course you can mix 10 drops into a glass of water and gulp it down, its really not bad. I guess. The most common effect reported by those who regularly take Concentrace is improved regularity. This is not because Concentrace acts like a laxative, but because your body uses the minerals to manufacture digestive enzymes, resulting in improved digestion. Other people report increased energy, clearer complexion, shinier hair and a stronger immune system. Combined with determining and taking the right type of calcium needed by your body, Concentrace addresses the most basic nutritional needs your body has. Also, when doing the ph testingyou use the first a.m. saliva and the second urine of the day? See my instruction post. Why do they say to put it into a cup first? You actually can dip the pH strip into a little pool of saliva in your mouth, but be careful not to lick it, as the chemicals will come off (affecting the reading). If you urinate onto the strip, you will wash off the chemicals. terry Chamberlin -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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You posted on the silver-list, My daughter-in-law sent me an e-mail this morning saying that our grandson's doctor wants to test him for autism. He does seem to have some of the characteristics, namely repetitive actions and delayed speech. He just turned 2 years old a few weeks ago, I'm trying to find the best protocols to deal with it. Does anyone have any experience with how to do the detoxing? Go to: http://www.waiora.com This product is having amazing results with autistic children. It is sold through network marketing, which increases the price, but I have seen astounding results in my area with it. If I had an autistic child, I would not hesitate. Ask them to refer you to a local distributor. Ask them how you can get info about its use for autism. If you become a distributor, it lowers the price by more than the cost of becoming a distributor. Terry Chamberlin -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSMissing pH post
I received a digest that listed me as a poster, but my posts were missing (just a large blank space). Here they are again: Wendy said, is this the same for children as well as adults? I was thinking we can all do it at the same time as I am curious to know how the kids are doing. Yes, you can test the whole family each morning and evening. Send me the numbers for everyone and I will explain them. Folks, I have no hidden sales agenda in doing this. I will sell you pH paper or Concentrace if you cannot find it at your local HF store, but both of them will be cheaper if you find them in a store. It costs me nothing to tell you what your pH numbers mean, and if it helps you, I am happy. Duncan said, ..it's rare that someone is too alkaline, and if you were, the yogurt would be a good bet. Most children below 14 or 15 years old are usually alkaline (but less and less as time goes by), and I still run into the occasional adult who is. From the time you are born, your pH follows a pattern. A healthy baby will have balanced numbers 6.4/6.4 (urine/saliva). Unless they are fortunate enough to have health fanatic parents (lets face it, that is what you have to be today), and parents who also passed on excellent health to their children, the health of the child will follow a predictable decline pattern as indicated in their pH: From balanced pH it will go to double alkaline (urine/saliva), then acid urine and alkaline saliva, then alkaline urine and acid saliva, then double acid, then death. Note: Depending on how mineralized/demineralized their body was to begin with, that double acid pH can last for many years before serious health issues/death occurs. In the early 80s, I did not see double acid except in seniors. Now I am sometimes finding it in teenagers. You will notice that arthritis, cancer and heart disease are also occurring in children today. There is a connection. In the pH decline pattern I described above, I did not mention fluctuating pH. Most folks between about 30-60 years old have fluctuating pH. How it fluctuates, how often it fluctuates, how far (wide) it fluctuates, how consistent the fluctuation is, these all tell me things about what is going on inside you. What health is primarily about is the mineral situation inside the body. (I am speaking about the physical dimension, not the emotional/spiritual dimension.) We are MADE of minerals, and our bodies use up minerals each day, and the condition/balance of our health affects the utilization of those minerals. The pH gives me insight into how low our savings account of minerals is (what Dr. Reams called our Mineral Reserve). We are born with a certain Mineral Reserve, and that is that (it is like being born large-boned or small-boned you cannot change from one to the other). Dr. Reams explained that if you were born with a Mineral Reserve of picking an arbitrary number 100 (whatever), and you squandered much of it being raised on the Standard North American Diet, what you would give to your children would be less than YOU started out with. If they do the same, passing on to their children a bit less than they started out with, you can see what is happening in our country as the generations go by. Remember, what you were born with is it, and even if you become a health freak and eat/exercise/supplement/think/live in an amazingly healthy way, the most you can accomplish is to regain what was lost and approach what you were born with. Sigh. I have probably put a quarter in the Controversial Discussion machine now! Maybe I better quit while I am behind. One last point. In attempting to balance your pH, it is NOT enough just to supplement the correct calcium. The REST of the minerals, especially the trace minerals, must accompany the right calcium. That is why I am always recommending Concentrace. Terry Chamberlin -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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This is the other missing post. Marshalee said, How about calcium orotate?? I`m taking a preparation of it with magnesium orotate, and it is helping me a lot. My bone spurs in the toes are even disappearing! Calcium orotate is a very good, alkaline calcium. I havent been able to find it much, and it was very expensive when I did. As an example, ordering it in bulk from a pharmaceutical supply, 100 grams of calcium citrate costs $6.25; 100 grams of calcium orotate costs $66! Where are you getting it, and how much is it? If you are acidic, it is just the thing. Dee said, Could this be any yoghurt i.e. Commercial, supermarket fruit types or just plain, or would you have to make it yourself? Any yogurt has calcium lactate in it (generated by the fermentation process that creates yogurt), but commercial yogurt is not nearly as good for you. If you must eat commercial yogurt, make it plain, adding your own flavoring. Calcium lactate is a very strong, high-energy calcium (especially in supplement form), and can change your pH fairly quickly. If you were eating, say, a quart per day (as an example of a large amount), it would be wise to keep an eye on your pH, to see if it was dropping much. Connie said, Could you advise how or where one could find out their pH? Call the HF stores around you and tell them you need pH paper that measures in .2 increments. The brand I use is made by a company called Greens Plus. I do not know if they sell in the US. If you cannot find it anywhere, I can sell it to you for $20, but it will be cheaper if you can find it at a HF store. I also have an instruction page for how to conduct the testing, with places to write down the daily numbers. If you do the 6-day testing and send the numbers to me, I will tell you what they mean. Along this line, although your body uses more calcium in volume each day than all other nutrients put together, and giving your body the calcium it needs can bring about significant improvements in your health, the essential need for the trace minerals is paramount. We have all heard how the body uses magnesium with calcium, but, in reality, it uses the trace minerals much, much more. If you have any symptoms of calcium deficiency (although it is almost a given with most people), you need to add a multi-mineral supplement to your life. It should be liquid (to optimize assimilation) and it should be as many minerals as possible (70-80+). That is why I like Concentrace, which has 100+ minerals, is liquid and is not sold multi-level (which makes it reasonably priced). The relationship in our bodies between calcium and the rest of the minerals is like this: Picture the human body as if it were a brick wall. This wall is made up of bricks, plus the mortar that holds them together. In the case of the body, the bricks represent calcium, and the mortar is all the rest of the minerals that the body uses for life and health. Obviously, without bricks there would be no wall, but equally obvious is that without the mortar, the bricks would not hold together. Terry Chamberlin -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Marshalee said, How about calcium orotate?? I`m taking a preparation of it with magnesium orotate, and it is helping me a lot. My bone spurs in the toes are even disappearing! Calcium orotate is a very good, alkaline calcium. I havent been able to find it much, and it was very expensive when I did. As an example, ordering it in bulk from a pharmaceutical supply, 100 grams of calcium citrate costs $6.25; 100 grams of calcium orotate costs $66! Where are you getting it, and how much is it? If you are acidic, it is just the thing. Dee said, Could this be any yoghurt i.e. Commercial, supermarket fruit types or just plain, or would you have to make it yourself? Any yogurt has calcium lactate in it (generated by the fermentation process that creates yogurt), but commercial yogurt is not nearly as good for you. If you must eat commercial yogurt, make it plain, adding your own flavoring (reduces the 50% sugar). Mashed fruit and/or Stevia would be good. Calcium lactate is a very strong, high-energy calcium (especially in supplement form), and can change your pH fairly quickly. If you were eating, say, a quart per day of yogurt (as an example of a large amount), it would be wise to keep an eye on your pH, to see if it was dropping quickly. Connie said, Could you advise how or where one could find out their pH? Call the HF stores around you and tell them you need pH paper that measures in .2 increments. The brand I use here in Canada is made by a company called Greens Plus. I do not know if they sell in the US. If you cannot find it anywhere, I can sell it to you for $20, but it will be cheaper if you can find it at a HF store. I also have an instruction page I can email you explaining how to conduct the testing, with places to write down the daily numbers. If you do the 6-day testing and send the numbers to me, I will tell you what they mean. Along this line of discussion, although your body uses more calcium in volume each day than all other nutrients put together, and giving your body the calcium it needs can bring about significant improvements in your health, the essential need for the trace minerals is paramount. We have all heard how the body uses magnesium with calcium, but, in reality, it uses the trace minerals much, much more. If you have any symptoms of calcium deficiency (although it is almost a given with most people), you need to add a multi-mineral supplement to your life. It should be liquid (to optimize assimilation) and it should have as many minerals as possible (70-80+ minimum). That is why I like Concentrace, which has 100+ minerals, is liquid and is not sold multi-level (which makes it reasonably priced). The relationship in our bodies between calcium and the rest of the minerals is like this: Picture the human body as if it were a brick wall. This wall is made up of bricks, plus the mortar that holds them together. In the case of the body, the bricks represent calciums, and the mortar is all the rest of the minerals that the body uses for life and health. Obviously, without bricks there would be no wall, but equally obvious is that without the mortar, the bricks would not hold together. Terry Chamberlin -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSpH paper
Kathryn said, I am wondering if you can find out anything useful from pH paper that reads with .5 increments. A small percentage of folks have consistently, non-fluctuating acidic or alkaline pH. A few of them are very acid in the morning and very alkaline at night (or vice versa). For those folks, .5 increments wouldn't matter because, above 8.0 or below 5.0, it does not matter if it is very accurate. By the time you are in those extremes, you are in trouble. But for folks who have fluctuating pH between 5.0 and 8.0 (the majority), I want to know what their pH really is. Terry Chamberlin -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSMore on pH
Dee said, Just one question Terry, I had thought that veggies produce an alkaline environment and meat, dairy etc., produced an acidic environment. Is this wrong? According to Dr. Carey Reams, who developed the biochemical testing procedure I use in my practise, it is not food that determines urine/saliva pH, but the state of the calciums in the body. The reason for this is because Dr. Reams was not actually concerned about pH, but about a cationic/anionic balance. Most of the time, anionic corresponds to alkaline and cationic to acid, so measuring pH gave a pretty much accurate assessment. The concept that he taught was that most all foods are either cationic or a mixture of cationic and anionic. In a healthy body, the digestive enzymes are pure anionic. The interaction of cationic/mostly cationic foods with anionic enzymes is somewhat like the interaction of vinegar and baking soda - there is a release of energy. If you were to pour a cup of baking soda into an equal amount of vinegar, you would get a significant release of energy. But if you were to pour a teaspoon of baking soda into a cup of vinegar, there would not be much of an energy release because of the unequal ratio. So when I test someone and find them to have an acidic pH, it is like too much vinegar, or, a deficiency of baking soda. Of course, I am not concerned with vinegar and baking soda, but with alkaline vs acidic calcium. A person who tests overly acidic is actually deficient in alkaline calcium, not alkaline foods. When the body has a healthy ratio of all kinds of calciums, it is best able to digest food and assimilate minerals. If the pH (anionic/cationic ratio) is unbalanced in either direction, you can eat the best foods and take the best supplements in the world and you will not benefit from them. To the degree that a person has unbalanced biochemistry, to that degree does digestion/assimilation suffer. The energy that is released by this anionic/cationic interaction is not the kind of energy you feel, but metabolic/molecular energy that the body uses for operation/maintenance. I have watched folks with severely acidic pH (4.0 or less) waste away and die even though eating and supplementing like health fanatics. Fortunately, most folks still have the capacity to benefit from healthy food/supplementation. A word on Vit D overdose: When I was in the US, when clients showed very acidic pH (below 5.0), I would have them take 50,000-100,000 I.U.s of Vit D/day, with no overdose problems whatsoever. A person with that acidic pH is extremely, almost dangerously deficient in Vit D. On the other hand, someone with 7.5-8.0+ pH I would advise to absolutely avoid Vit D for fear of overdose. Vit D has an alkalinizing effect of the body. If they were already overly alkaline, they would not be able to assimilate Vit D, and it would act like an overdose. Folks with overly alkaline pH should take calcium lactate, and acidifying calcium. Eating a lot of yogurt would accomplish the same thing, since calcium lactate is derived from soured (not spoiled) milk products. The calcium gluconate found in milk is converted to calcium lactate by the fermentation process. Terry Chamberlin -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSBlood sugar, weight loss, etc.
you can eat), unless you cannot handle it. The fact that you may have (or suspect you have) a candida type yeast infection/condition doesnât automatically mean you will have trouble with nutritional yeast. I have many candida clients across the country, and half of them can eat n. yeast freely, while the other half can hardly look at it. Here is the initial diet idea for both weight-loss folks and hypo/hyper blood sugar folks: NO grains. NO sweets, including fruit and sweet potatoes. Use Stevia to sweeten stuff (no other kind of sweetener). NO soy (Dr. Mercola will explain). If you juice (very good idea), go very easy on the carrots (too high in sugar). Juice a green drink instead, sweeten with Stevia. (Really, not kidding.) Eat as many types of vegetables as you can (go easy on potatoes, which have little nutrition but are high in starch, which turns into sugar). Eat every 2 hours - not a meal, but veggie snacks. Some nuts, seeds, beans are OK (all of them are incredibly good for you if sprouted). Avocados are super (mash them with some lemon juice and garlic, spread on other veggies). Drink good water. Work up to about 40% of your body weight (if you weighed 100 lbs, your goal would be 40 oz.). This is not a permanent diet, just the one you should follow until you achieve some biochemical balance. After that, you can begin to gradually add some fruit and other natural sweets to your diet. You will know because your pH will begin to balance, plus you will start feeling better. But plan on 6-months to a year before that actually happens. Terry Chamberlin __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSVarious topic resources
The following websites provide excellent info to a range of relevant subjects. The Trans-fat issue Lipid hydroperoxides are contaminants that form from natural fatty acids when polyunsaturated fats are heated excessively, which happens in processing and when these oils are heated for cooking and frying. Lipid hydroperoxides poison our body's systems just as trans fats do; in fact, they may even be worse than trans fats because of their propensity to react with oxygen and iron, thereby forming free radicals. http://www.westonaprice.org/modernfood/lipid-hydroperoxides.html All about Splenda http://v.mercola.com/blogs/public_blog/Do-the-Makers-of-Splenda-Know-Something-They-Aren-t-Telling-You--7900.aspx New Danger Associated With Drinking Ordinary Milk http://v.mercola.com/blogs/public_blog/New-Danger-Associated-With-Drinking-Ordinary-Milk-8038.aspx Vit D, Sun Cancer, Sunglasses http://vitalvotes.com/QA/UVB-Blocking-Sunglasses---Vitamin-D-2696.aspx Sunlight and Cancer Prevention H. Gordon Ainsleigh, DC, Beneficial effects of sun exposure on cancer mortality, Preventive Medicine, January 1, 1993, Vol. 22, Num. 0, pp. 132-140 In 1941, Apperly reported that overall cancer death rates increased with distance from the equator, and were further decreased in areas where a large percentage of the population was engaged in the sun-intensive occupation of farming. Compared with cities located between 10° and 30° latitude, cities between 30° and 40° latitude averaged 85% higher overall cancer death rates, cities between 40° and 50° latitude averaged 118% higher overall cancer death rates, and cities between 50° and 60° latitude averaged 150% higher overall cancer death rates. [In other words, more sun, LESS cancer] http://www.healthsentinel.com/briefs.php?id=023title=Sunlight+and+Cancer+Preventionevent=briefs_print_list_item My Dad faithfully took Dr Johanna Budwig's cancer remedy (from the book How to Fight Cancer Win) for prostate cancer. [eat 1/2 cup of organic cottage cheese (or quark ), or yogurt, and 2 tablespoons of organic flax oil twice a day, with two 15 minute periods of sunlight each day.] He used it as a sweet, or to compliment a salad. Really it is so absolutely delicious it should be a regular treat for everyone!! His doctor was totally amazed at his excellent results, but he refused to tell his doctor what he was doing because he said the doctor didn't believe in natural remedies anyway. He also ate lots of raw garlic. He smelled dreadful but he said he didn't care how many friends he lost, just so long as he lost the cancer. Over a long period of time (year+) his body odour gradually changed and became quite sweet even though he still ate the garlic. But he definitely did beat the cancer! From: http://v.mercola.com/blogs/public_blog/How-to-Reduce-Your-Risk-of-Cancer-By-50--8790.aspx __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSNanosilver particles
Faith said, Nano particles would not be filtered out by a bit of cotton, would they? Nano means billionths. Relating to nanosilver, we are talking about nanometer (billionths of a meter) sized particles, which nothing will filter out. OK, there are some special ceramic filters that can filter out even minerals, and reverse osmosis, if set to its highest setting, can remove minerals from water, so I would expect it would filter out the mineral silver as well. Nothing you would normally use would do it. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSAmazing dog
You have to see this: www.mercola.com/2007/mar/6/the-most-amazing-dog-youve-ever-seen.htm __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSDental resources
With all the discussion of dental issues lately, here it a good resource: http://www.mercola.com/forms/dental_corner.htm __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSShelf-life of CS
Bill said, What is the life of colloidal silver if stored in a dark bottle at room temperature. If what you are making is silver particles suspended (floating around) in water (erroneously called *Colloidal* silver), the shelf life will be subject to outside influences like sunlight, magnetism, heat and cold, which can cause the silver particles to fall out of suspension to the bottom of the container, or plate out onto the sides of the container walls, or the particles will clump (aggregate) together into bigger particles and cause the water to obtain a color (yellow to gold, as the particles get bigger). If what you are making is silver particles dissolved into the water (called a *solution*, and erroneously called *ionic*), none of the above will happen. What most folks make is a mixture of the two, suspended and dissolved. A silver preparation that is mostly suspension will change color, etc., when exposed to those outside influences. A silver preparation that is mostly dissolved silver (a solution) will not. If you are using 30 volts or less and not overbrewing it (until it turns a pale yellow or darker), it is mostly dissolved silver and should last a long time. It is, however, possible to overbrew and still have a clear CS, as long as the ppm is low (this is subject to pH and other factors). After the ppm reaches a certain level, the particles begin to aggregate together even though it hasn't changed color yet. These larger particles are too big to be dissolved silver (so they are suspended), yet they are still invisible to the eye. But they are susceptible to sunlight, etc. This is why some clear CS will change color after a relatively short time, while others will seem to last forever. When using low voltage, you will brew a more stable CS when it is 5 ppm than when it is 20 ppm (assuming it is clear). Terry Chamberlin __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSStomach ulcer
About a 10 days ago, I discovered I had stomach pain that wouldn't stop, night or day. I called an MD friend of mine. This MD had called me a few years ago to report that she had had an ulcer, and by drinking one ounce of CS every two hours, her ulcer was gone in 4 days. Then she called me a month later to tell me that she had four patients with ulcers who were following the same protocol, and two of them had called her to tell her that all symptoms were gone (I never asked her about the other two). I thought, one ounce every two hours? Forget it. So I drank two ounces every hour all day and woke up frequently during the night to drink more. Five days later, absolutely no pain, and none for the last week. I have even eaten some spicy stuff to see what would happen. Nothing. Son of a gun. Terry Chamberlin __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSChicken Pox
Wendy said, I think my 2.5 yr old has chicken pox- tis the season. Yes, liberal CS is important. Chicken pox is from the Herpes family of viruses, along with cold sores (Herpes Simplex I), VD (Herpes Simplex II) and Shingles (Herpes Zoster). They are all killed by CS. Also, the whole Herpes family is well controlled by the amino acid Lysine. Try to find Lysine in capsules so you can pull them apart and put the powder into, say, some apple sauce for your child (one capsule mixed into a teaspoon or two of apple sauce). Buy capsules that are ONLY Lysine, not Lysine mixed with other items. Lysine has a slightly tangy flavor, not unpleasant. 3-4,000 mg/day is not at all excessive. If you cannot find Lysine capsules, you will have to crush the tablets, but make sure it is only Lysine. This is to prevent taking too much of whatever else might be mixed with the Lysine. While your child is fighting off the Chicken Pox, it is essential that he reduce or eliminate all nuts, seeds, beans and grains. These items contain high levels of the amino acid Arginine, which the Herpes virus flourishes in the presence of. The two worst foods your child can eat right now are peanuts and chocolate, which are the two highest sources of Arginine, but all nuts will feed the Chicken Pox. Terry Chamberlin __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSFLOURIDE!
Pat said, Last week the dentist asked what kind of toothpaste I'd been using because I have a sore place on the upper gum that has been there for 3 months. I told him various natural ones with no fluoride. He about went wild, asking where I read that fluoride is not good for teeth. This dentist is a smart man in his 50's who has dedicated his life to keeping his patient's teeth in good condition. How could he be totally wrong? Is he wrong? First off, he may be sincere, he sounds like he is. But he is wrong, totally, completely, dangerously. Now, to do your own research, here is all you need: www.mercola.com/article/links/fluoride_links.htm The Fluoride Debate: A response to the American Dental Association's booklet, Fluoridation Facts www.fluoridedebate.com Fluoride Action Network (Excellent Resource, Very Up-to-Date) www.fluoridealert.org Fluoride: Protected Pollutant or Panacea? www.fluoridation.com New York State Coalition Opposed to Fluoridation www.orgsites.com/ny/nyscof/ Fluoride Controversy, the Townsend Letter for Doctors and Patients www.tldp.com/fluoride.htm More Scientific Facts on Fluoride www.all-natural.com/fleffect.html Fluoride Research Journal www.fluoride-journal.com Preventive Dental Health Site emporium.turnpike.net/P/PDHA/health.htm America Overdosed on Fluoride - Lynn Landes (Includes e-mail correspondence inwhich an ADA spokesperson refutes news reports that non-fluoridated bottled water causes cavities, and what you can do to ban fluoride and educate others.) www.zerowasteamerica.org/Fluoride.htm The Toxic Effects of Fluoride (Be aware that they are selling a fluoride removal system.) www.wholywater.com/fluoride.html Fluoridation Debate (Environmental Health Perspectives, Volume 105, Number 11, November 1997) ehpnet1.niehs.nih.gov/docs/1997/105-11/forum.html Fluoridation: The Overdosing of America - Fact or Fiction? (Slides by Gerald H. Smith, D.D.S.) www.icnr.com/FluoridePres.html Darryl W. Roundy, D.C. - Fluoride Research www.atlaschiro.com/fluorideresch.htm Fluoridation Fluoride Toxic Chemicals In Your Water www.holisticmed.com/fluoride Does water fluoridation have negative side effects? doctoryourself.com/fluoride_cancer.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSIntestinal worms
Faith said, My wife encountered worms in her faeces and she did not like it much. She asked me to write to the Forum and ask if Colloidal Silver would exterminate these unsympathetic creatures. Is there an alternative cure known to rid oneself of faecal worms? No, CS will not work (most of the time) against something as developed as worms (though there have been reports of it working). Diatomaceous Earth, available at many nurseries (the plant kind, not the baby kind). Anywhere from a teaspoon per day to as much as a tablespoon 3xday will pretty much do it. Takes about a month usually It must be Food Grade DE. If no nurseries in your area carry it, go on the internet. Terry Chamberlin __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSColloidal copper
Can anyone tell me how to make homemade colloidal copper? Terry __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSHeating milk
Sandee said, am I understanding what has been said to mean that when fresh milk is heated the properties of the product are changed, just as they are when oil is heated? No, heating milk is not a problem, otherwise it would not be safe to cook with milk (custard, etc.). Pasteurization is not simply heating milk, it is heating milk to a very high temperature (500 degrees) under pressure (to keep it from boiling or curdling). This unnaturally high temperature rearranges the milk constituents into something not good for our bodies. Terry Chamberlin __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSMilk
Ken said, Where did you read this? I drink lots of milk and I love it. If you research the topic of the toxicity of commercial milk, you should be prepared for what you will find. The philosophies of those who disapprove of milk will extend from those who believe humans shouldnt drink milk after infancy (and only human milk at that) to those who are only concerned with milk coming from unhealthy cows. My own children have been raised on fresh, unpasteurized milk from healthy, unmedicated goats. Yet I acknowledge the fact that humans have enjoyed and benefited from fresh cows milk for many, many centuries of human history. My alarm over milk centers on the fact that, if a cow is highly medicated, unhealthy and unhappy, its milk cannot be good. I have never heard that the calcium is almost impossible to digest. To the contrary, I remember reading studies in the past about calcium sources where people increased their bone density by drinking milk (but mainly it was usually focused on other things like calcium supplements or drugs) The homogenization process alters the fabric of milk and decreases its digestibility. The compression of the milk fat into tiny globules introduces something into the body that it is unfamiliar with and not designed to metabolize. People with very good digestion will have better success with it than those who dont. Over the long haul, it will cost the body more than it will benefit it. The milk industry has many studies to support their agenda. The pharmaceutical industry does the same about their drugs. You must decide whom you will trust. For myself, I tend to assume that food and medicine was better before man improved on them, that nature offered us what we needed, that what occurs naturally and spontaneously on our planet is what our bodies need. I greatly mistrust the products that come from a laboratory or from human engineering and coercion. Terry Chamberlin __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSVarious topics
Barbara said, Terry, what happened in the early 1900s that it had such profound and disastrous influence on the health of the citizens? I know that milk pasteurization started at that time. Could that be a reason? I am oversimplifying it, but what happened in the early 1900s was commercial farming techniques (put only 3 minerals back in the soil after harvest), plus the increasing use of chemical fertilizers and insecticides. Add to that the wholesale stampede to a high-grain diet (and processed grains at that), plus the increasing replacement of actual food with processed, chemicalized, synthetic food products and you have a recipe for the demise of public health. I could list other important factors fast food, vaccinations, flouride, etc., but you get the idea. Smitty said, I have read that pasteurized milk is BAD for a person's body. Maybe Terry can expound on this. First you take milk from an unhealthy cow that is made to stand in a tiny enclosure her whole life and eat a diet that the cow is not designed to eat. She is not allowed to ever see the sun or get any exercise, and everything she eats or drinks is full of chemicals that are designed to increase her milk production at any cost to her health. (Plus antibiotics to try to keep her from getting sick in this very unhealthy environment.) Then you take this unhealthy milk-like substance and you put it in a pressure cooker (to keep the milk from boiling or curdling) and heat it up to 500 degrees. This is called pasteurization. I can only guess what ultra-pasteurization is. Then you force the milk through a sieve with very tiny holes in it, so tiny that only high pressure can get the milk to go through. This compresses the milk fat and the milk protein together into tiny little balls of compressed milk. The milk fat no longer rises to the top of the container. This is called homogenization. This finished milk-like product is not only very difficult to digest, there is strong evidence that these plastic-like milk balls accumulate in various locations in our bodies. The calcium that is locked inside of these milk-balls is almost entirely indigestible. Jodi W Menard wrote: I don't think you can overdose on iron by eating alot of spinach, for example, because the iron you are getting in that way is in ionic form. Spinach is quite high in oxalic acid. Depending on how imbalanced your bio-chemistry is and what kind of imbalance, oxalic acid can greatly contribute to gall and kidney stones. Iron is one of the minerals our bodies use that can be ingested in unhealthy levels, ionic or not. Nowadays, increasing numbers of people are struggling with levels of iron that are too high. The doctors only know to bleed you to try to lower your iron level (rather than seek to bring about a balanced bio-chemistry). I will admit that it is not a simple process. Terry Chamberlin __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSButter, etc.
In my opinion there is no alternative to butter. If it is man made, it is no good. Just use butter with respect. First off, I must point out that many folks, including me, cannot handle butter, whether because of milk allergies or, as in my case, because I cannot efficiently metabolize milk fat. My own diet is a low-fat diet simply because more than a small amount of fats and oils affect me quite negatively. This includes olive and coconut oils. Secondly, if you are going to ingest butter, commercial butter is pure poison. We all know that commercial cows are routinely fed/injected with steroids and antibiotics to make them produce milk at an earlier age and to increase their milk production. Then, of course, they are fed diets of various animal parts too disgusting to mention, denied sunshine, green grass, fresh water and exercise, and the resulting unhealthy animal produces equally unhealthy milk. This milk is then concentrated into commercial butter. The levels of steroids/antibiotics/pathogens/diseases found in commercial butter makes regular milk seem healthy. If I could eat butter, I would avoid commercial butter like the (literally) plague. In my search for an alternative such as a healthy, non-hydrogenated margarine, I have been unable to find anything that is not made with rape seed oil (you know, canola oil). I would pay a pretty penny and order from far away if I could find a non-hydrogenated margarine made from virgin olive oil. Does anyone know of such a thing? Terry Chamberlin __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCholesterol!
that is there to enable the body to enlarge or constrict the arteries in order to regulate blood pressure. Its these layers of muscle tissue that are a rich source of minerals for the body to scavenge from in order to combat diet-caused mineral deficiency. But of course, after awhile, as the body continues to steal minerals from the artery walls, those walls begin to get thin and weak. So the body says to itself, Uh, oh, this is becoming serious, even life-threatening. One of those artery walls might balloon out (embolism) or burst open (aneurism) and I might die! So the body mixes up a batch of cement, which it plasters on the artery walls to strengthen them. What is this cement made of? Well, calcium and some other minerals, fibrin (what makes you stop bleeding from a cut) and yes, cholesterol. None of this dynamic I have just described has anything to do with the amount of cholesterol you eat. Restricting your cholesterol intake will not prevent your liver from producing it in response to weakness of the artery walls. Neither does any amount of cholesterol in your diet accumulate on your artery walls if your body is not already doing so. Dr. Reams declared that, if you address the mineral deficiency in your diet, eventually your body will repair the artery walls and remove the cholesterol/plaque from them of its own accord, as soon as your body knows that plaque is no longer needed. I have two more nails to drive into the coffin in which I want to bury the absurd, dangerous Cholesterol Myth. First nail: Lets get in our plane and fly up to the Northern Territories and visit the primitive Inuit Eskimo Indians. These are the ones who live out in the wild, who rarely if ever see a white man (or his food). What do they eat all winter? Whale/seal blubber. Pure cholesterol. Ill have a bowl of cholesterol soup for supper tonight, dear! Yet these primitive natives have never heard of heart disease (or cancer, or arthritis, or diabetes, etc.) either. Second nail: Lets get into our time machine and go back about 150 years ago right here in North America. 150 years ago, most folks in North America lived on farms. What was a farmers standard diet? Eggs, butter, cream, whole milk, red meat. Yet heart disease was virtually unknown 150 years ago. How did a diet that was healthy 150 years ago suddenly become dangerous? It didnt. It never has been. Indeed, Dr. Weston Price visited primitive peoples all over the world, examining their diets/lifestyles. These are the folks who live to be 130-140 years old and who, when they do die, have a full set of sound, straight, uncavitied teeth (I made up that word). People who have 20/20 vision all their lives and have never seen a bald man. Dr. Price found men 100+ years old who still worked 8 hours/day out in their fields. None of these people had ever heard of our common western diseases. In fact, Dr. Price said he found one tooth cavity every 240 mouths, and these cavities would heal after a time! When Dr. Price rated these primitive peoples according to levels of health (though he hastened to explain that the least healthy of them was still far beyond anything seen in western society), he discovered that the healthiest societies on planet Earth were the ones who ate the MOST saturated fats! It was as a society began to grow their own foods, especially grains, that their level of health began to decline. Does this mean we should run down to our nearest grocery store and buy a side-of-beef or a roasting pig? Most definitely NOT. The toxic, poisoned, chemicalized, unhealthy animal flesh found in the normal grocery store is not vaguely similar to the wild, healthy, unspoiled animals eaten by primitive peoples. That is why it is so essential to only eat grass-fed animals that were raised in a pasture; chickens that were allowed to run around and eat bugs and seeds and weeds and get sunlight and exercise and fresh water and air animals that are as close as we can practically come to what our primitive ancestors ate. The diet that your doctor will put you on if he concludes that you have or are developing heart disease will, in fact, CAUSE heart disease. I am not saying that your doctor knows this. I do not believe that all doctors are consciously involved in a conspiracy to try to make as much money off your health problems as possible, to the point of deliberately recommending a diet designed to increase your health problems, while prescribing toxic drugs that will guarantee that it will happen. Yet I cannot deny that some doctors fit this description. Terry Chamberlin __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l
CSMargarines
Both Olivio Becel contain mostly canola (rape seed) oil. The Earthbalance product is mostly soy oil, which I am not sure is a great improvement over canola oil. Is there no margarine spread that uses only olive oil? __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSSchool answering machine
This is the message that the Pacific Palisades High School (California) staff voted unanimously to record on their school telephone answering machine. This is the actual answering machine message for the school. This came about because they implemented a policy requiring students and parents to be responsible for their children's absences and missing homework. The school and teachers are being sued by parents who want their children's failing grades changed to passing grades - even though those children were absent 15-30 times during the semester and did not complete enough schoolwork to pass their classes. The outgoing message: Hello! You have reached the automated answering service of your school. In order to assist you in connecting to the right staff member, please listen to all the options before making a selection: * To lie about why your child is absent - Press 1 * To make excuses for why your child did not do his work - Press 2 * To complain about what we do - Press 3 * To swear at staff members - Press 4 * To ask why you didn't get information that was already enclosed in your newsletters and several flyers mailed to you - Press 5 * If you want us to raise your child - Press 6 * If you want to reach out and touch, slap or hit someone - Press 7 * To request another teacher, for the third time this year - Press 8 * To complain about bus transportation - Press 9 * To complain about school lunches - Press 0 * If you realize this is the real world and your child must be accountable and responsible for his/her own behavior, class work, homework and that it's not the teachers' fault for your child's lack of effort, then hang up and have a nice day! *If you want this in Spanish, you must be in the wrong country. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCholesterol again
Dee said, http://www.bbc.co.uk/health/conditions/cholesterol1.shtml I found this article on the web Terry, and looking at what you have written, it is mainly wrong! Could you have a look and see what you think? If it is wrong, then how can such as the BBC publish such nonsense? The BBC will publish whatever the official position is on pretty much everything, the same as the mainline media does in North America. The problem concerning what the medical establishment tells us nowadays about heart disease originally started with some fairly logical but erroneous early-century science. During the early 1900s, various manifestations of heart disease began to occur. The first few cases of it were misdiagnosed because the doctors had never seen it before. As the incidents of it began to increase, the medical scientists began to pay closer attention to it. They discovered that every case of heart disease was accompanied by high blood cholesterol, and they came to the conclusion that high blood cholesterol caused heart disease. In reality, they got the cart before the horse. Heart disease causes high cholesterol, not the other way around. By the time the doctors discovered their error (well over 30 years ago), two things had occurred. First, they couldnt very well come out with a public statement like, Whoops! Hey, folks, we got it backwards, but its OK, we have it right now and you can trust us again. The medical High Priesthood never apologizes nor admits to error. Secondly, there was a burgeoning, highly-profitable poly-unsaturated oil industry, plus the doctors were making major dollars doing heart surgeries and other expensive heart disease treatments (not to mention lucrative statin and other drugs). Eighty years ago there was a health issue that occasionally occurred in seniors, but which has become the number two killer of seniors today. Im talking about Alzheimers disease (AL). For about 80 years or so the doctors have been warning us away from high-cholesterol foods, and the public has dutifully complied. But if your body doesnt get the cholesterol it needs from your diet, it will scavenge it from the best sources it can find within the body. Guess where the largest reservoir of cholesterol is in your body? Your brain is composed of 70% cholesterol! Now let me see: 80 or so years ago AL was quite uncommon. For the last 80 or so years folks have been running from eggs, butter, etc. Today AL is the number two killer of seniors. I can do the math. When a client tells me they have high blood pressure or heart disease, I put them on 2 eggs per day, minimum. Of course, I impress on them the importance of buying eggs from healthy, back-yard chickens that run around and eat like they were designed to do. Terry Chamberlin __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSSOTA Instruments
Carlene said, I have found the people at Sota Instruments to be courteous, although not as knowledgeable, in my opinion, as the members of the Silver List. You must understand, Health Canada (sick) is always breathing down SOTA's neck, trying to find some evidence of making unsubstantiated claims so they can shut them down. SOTA can tell you how to use their devices, but cannot tell you during a phone call (they told me they know their phones are bugged) how the device will benefit you. Neither can their website do that either. They know more than they can afford to tell you. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSYeast Medline
From Medline: Saccharomyces cerevisiae (also known as baker's yeast or brewer's yeast) www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmedcmd=Retrievedopt=AbstractPluslist_uids=16267727query_hl=4itool=pubmed_docsum This is interesting. Bakers yeast is a live yeast (used to make bread rise), brewers yeast is not (it's a left-over substance after making beer). If you used brewers yeast in place of bakers yeast to make bread, you would have thick, flat pancakes with a yeasty flavor. How can they be equally considered in a study about an etiologic agent of invasive infection? __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSNutritional yeast
Maz said, I had heard that dried nutritional yeast (though it is a yeast) is not a problem for those with, or a cause of, yeast infection. About half of my Candida clients have yeast infection reactions when they eat n. yeast, to the point that it makes them miserable. I had the impression that the yeast overgrowth infection was caused by immune system function and/or too much sugar which causes the overgrowth. The reason sugar is a problem is because the yeast organisms thrive on the sugar. The same is true concerning n. yeast - some of the yeast organisms thrive on it. Whether Candida Albicans likes n. yeast is unknown. Terry, are you saying that in those that have an active Candida infection and react poorly to nutritional yeast, are feeding the infective yeast with the nutritional yeast (ny)? Yes, just like sugar. Or could it be a general food sensitization or allergen to yeast? Although a small percentage of my non-yeast infected clients are allergic to ny (a very small percentage, 1-2%), the percentage of my yeast-issue clients is much higher, about 50%. And thank you for your observation re ny stabilizing blood sugar - very interesting. Do you know the mechanism? How does it act on blood sugar levels? There are two dynamics here. One is the high amounts of chromium found in ny; chromium is frequently called GTF, Glucose Tolerance Factor, because of its involvement in blood sugar stabilization. The other is that ny is the highest protein food you can eat. Liver is considered to be the highest protein meat, at 30% protein. Nutritional yeast is 52% protein, but it's 80% pre-digested. It's not only easy to metabolize (unlike meat), it actually improves digestion. A high-protein, low or non-carbohydrate diet is the standard medical response to hypoglycemia. This usually causes a problem, since very few people have good enough digestion to handle a lot of daily meat. People on this high-meat diet usually are majorly constipated, since they cannot digest the meat they are eating. (There's also the problem of eating a lot of commercial meat.) N. yeast gives the benefits of a high-protein diet (which breaks down into sugar in the blood stream at a very slow rate), but doesn't put a strain on the digestive system. Terry Chamberlin __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSNutritional yeast
Dee said, I had always understood that if you had a candida type infection, then you shouldn't eat anything with yeast in it. One needs to distinguish between live bakers yeast and dead, cooked nutritional yeast. I have had many Candida clients over the years. About half of them can eat nutritional yeast freely. The other half can hardly look at it. The reason for this is that there are, at last count, over 30 different yeast/fungus microbes that folks struggle with, all of them called Candida. Some of those microbes love nutritional yeast and will thrive in the body of the person who eats N. yeast. Others are indifferent to it, and the folks with those particular yeast microbes can eat N. yeast freely. Doctors don't even try to differentiate between one type of yeast infection and another, but call them all Candida (even though only one of them is Candida Albicans). In 30+ years, I have never seen a food/supplement that is more effective at stabilizing blood sugar than nutritional yeast. Terry Chamberlin __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSDMSO level
Garnett, What is the CS/DMSO ratio you drink? I have a client who is right now sick with cold/flu. What is the lowest DMSO level you have found to be effective when ingested? 10%? 25%? Terry Chamberlin __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSSelf-allergy testing
Does anybody know of a good way to do allergy testing oneself at home? From my article, Nutritional Insights: FOOD SENSITIVITIES: Probably more than half the people in this country experience food allergies/sensitivities to one degree or another. Actually, the term, food allergies is a misnomer, because the body reacts to various food substances for more reasons than allergic reactions (hence the word, sensitivities). When you think of allergies, you generally think of sneezing, runny nose, watery eyes, etc. But allergies mimic every known disease. The late Dr. Arthur Coca discovered that when people ate foods to which they were allergic, their pulse increased. So he began testing people by having them monitor their pulse when they ate certain foods. One woman who came to him because of her hay fever symptoms weighed 300 pounds. When she stopped eating the foods the pulse testing had indicated she was sensitive to, she began losing weight at an amazing, even alarming, rate. She hurried back to Dr. Coca and he told her to wait and see what would happen. When her body reached a healthy weight level, she stopped losing weight. Dr. Coca concluded that her body's reaction when she ate foods to which she was sensitive was to accumulate and retain fat. Another of Dr. Coca's patients found that their diabetes symptoms disappeared and they were able to discontinue taking insulin, and still another patient found they no longer exhibited symptoms of epilepsy. Obviously, these examples are abnormal; food sensitivities cannot be held responsible for more than a small percentage of diabetic or epileptic conditions, but there are other symptoms associated with food allergies, such as low energy, which are more common than normally thought. In his book, The Pulse Test, Dr. Coca explained that, when you eat something to which you are allergic, or even something which your body is sensitive to and has trouble metabolizing, your body will begin to struggle with that food or substance, and your pulse will increase. To use the pulse test to determine which foods you should avoid, the test should be conducted first thing in the morning, when you have first arisen, before eating or drinking anything. The reason for this is because your body will have had the night to clear itself out of the last food you ate. You should be fully awake. First, sit down for a couple minutes, so that your pulse is a sitting pulse. Then, take your pulse for a whole minute (rather than 15 seconds and multiplying by four). Then, eat one food which you are suspicious of being an allergen. That's one food, such as a hard-boiled egg, or a glass of milk, or an orange, etc. Bread is not one food, it contains wheat, eggs, milk, yeast, etc., so you could not accurately determine which item you were reacting to. After eating the one food, take your pulse every 15 minutes three times (Say you eat the food at 7:00 A.M. You would take your pulse at 7:15, 7:30 and 7:45), always sitting for a minute first so you are always taking a sitting pulse, and always for a whole minute for best accuracy (if you are testing a child who will not hold still long enough, use the 15 seconds method). Eat nothing during that hour, and if your pulse quickens to more than 92 beats per minute, your body is reacting to that food, and you should consider omitting it from your diet. You should test only one food each morning for the testing to be the most accurate. The most common food allergens to consider testing are chocolate (number one food allergen), milk (test whole milk, 1% or 2% milk and non-fat milk separately), wheat (test wheat germ or cooked whole-wheat berries), citrus fruits, strawberries, etc. Also, make sure to test the foods you eat the most frequently and the ones you have strong or frequent cravings for. Addictive allergies are very common (having an addiction to the foods you are the most allergic to). If you discover reactions to certain foods, you may still be able to eat them if you allow five or more days to go by before eating them again, and if you do not over-indulge (pig out) when you do eat them. If you have allergies to various non-food substances (dusts, pollens, etc.), you may find that after you omit the allergen foods from your diet, your sensitivity to these non-food substances will decrease or disappear. Terry Chamberlin Metabolic Solutions Institute Lawrencetown, Nova Scotia B0S 1M0 Canada 902-584-3810 msi...@yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev
CSComputing volume
Does anyone here know of a way/formula to compute the volume of a container in gallons? If I have, say, an aquarium that is 12x23x16, how many gallons will it hold? What is the formula for determining that? Thanks for any help. Terry Chamberlin __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSYucky DW
Doris said, I have run about 30 loads of water through my distiller and still it has a strange taste to it. Does anyone know how to change the taste so it's H2O? I filter it after with a charcoal filter and still yucky. The water from my own distiller tasted too bad to drink. I had a filter added to it (between the distiller and the storage tank) and the water is perfect. It's a Sta-Rite GAC filter (Delavin, WI). In fact, I can now brew CS for twice as long as before (DW from a very good pharmacy distiller) and it still be and stay crystal clear. Doris, I would investigate the quality of your water filter (Brita filters are a joke) and whether the filter needs to be changed. Terry __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSColon
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CS6-volt device
Actually Pat, you can't go to microelectricitygermkil...@yahoogroups.com, since that is an email address, not a website. Go to: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/ You must become a member, but that is free and you can always unsubscribe when you have all the info you need. They have step-by-step photos and instructions for assembling a very simple device using a 6-volt lantern battery that is having quite some success with a variety of health issues. Terry Chamberlin __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSPop bottle sources
Zoe said, And for us who never drink soda - can we use the bottles our water comes in? Yes, if it is plastic you can see thru it, clear (whether blue or green or whatever), not the whitish, cloudy plastic. Soda pop bottles are free from folks who drink it, set out on the side of the road for recycling and garbage pick up. I put an ad in the paper offering 10 cents per clean, unscratched bottle with lids. I get 50-60 bottles per month from folks who call me. Terry __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCS plating
MA said, OK -- I have a question about this. Terry -- do you think that the plated out residue attracts additional silver particles, creating more plated out residue? I've used cobalt blue bottles for my CS storage. After awhile, the insides of the bottles have a residue on them -- but I can't see what color it is (these bottles have a long narrow neck). I imagined that it was black. Or dark grey. But it seems that this increases with time. So if I do what you do with tap water and hydrogen peroxide, it'll clean them up again? Yes, the plating out continues and attracts more CS to the glass sides. That's why it gets darker as time goes by. Yes, you can clean them out the same way I did. I have gone to soda pop plastic bottles for my CS (PET or PETE plastic), since the plating out doesn't occur with them. Terry __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSGlass vs plastic
Doris said, From everything I've read and heard about cs I get the idea that you can't store it in anything but glass or clear plastic containers. Why can't you store it in white or green or any other colour container? A 2 liter pop bottle wouldn't make the water as smelly as some of those other ones? The only problem with storing CS in glass is that the silver particles stick to the glass sides (plate out) after awhile, which means less in the water. All my glass containers, after awhile, start to turn yellow on the insides. I fill them with tap water and pour in a bit of H2O2 and allow to sit for an hour and it dissolves the yellow off the sides. Clear soda pop plastic never has this experience, that I've noticed. By *clear*, I mean what you can see through. It's fine if it's green, just as long as it is clear. The whitish plastic that you find containing milk is too soft, I've heard, and the plastic dissolves into the CS. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSsilver/sulfur
Marshall said, Sulfur (MSM) binds with silver and can help to pull it from the body. Can you give some references for this idea? I've never heard it before. Terry __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSArgVictim
The problem I have with ArgyriaVictims complaint is the complete absence of supporting evidence. She has been asked to provide details of her condition, what was the product that she says produced this condition or did she make it herself and how. I can truly understand her anger if she looks like a walking corpse from using a substance she was given to understand was safe. And, unfortunately, it is human nature to throw the baby out with the bathwater and denounce all silver-containing products. Were I to experience the same thing from using my CS, I would be very dismayed, since I absolutely trust its safety and have freely recommended it to everyone around me (and sell it in 80+ Health Food stores across the country). Attempting to put myself in Victims shoes, I would want to determine why it happened (did I drink too much? Did I make it wrong? Is my metabolism eccentric in some way?) and is it truly possible to reverse the condition? Not everyone is like me, but I would want to see if it had happened to others, and what were the details concerning their condition? Should I now warn everyone away from CS? Warn them to ingest it in moderation? Recommend they take certain supplements along with their CS? (Which I already do.) In reality, I have already tried to research the existence of such victims, but have been unable to find any who mirror my own parameters, folks who drink only crystal clear ionic CS. For that matter, neither has the FDA. Were 1/10th of the numerous cases claimed by Victim true, the FDA would have launched a major campaign to erase it from existence. ArgyriaVictim claims to know of numerous cases, but, until she/he presents them for inspection, I must assume they dont actually exist. I must also wonder if Victim's problem actually exists. Terry Chamberlin __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSStop smoking
Go to: www.emofree.com This system (Emotional Freedom Technique - EFT) has had astounding success with smokers. Send me an email and I will send you an animated PowerPoint presentation showing how to do EFT. Works for almost any other addictive/compulsive behavior problem as well. Terry Chamberlin, B.Sc., C.N.C., Bioanalyst Metabolic Solutions Institute Lawrencetown, Nova Scotia B0S 1M0 Canada 902-584-3810 msi...@yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSNicotene cleanse
Debb said, Hi I would really appreciate some ideas on what you all think about detoxing the body and lungs from nicotene Of course saunas and sweat baths would help. Colonics would be effective. The consumption of a lot of water would be essential (60 oz/day max). Inhaling CS with a nebulizer causes a person to cough up large amounts of gunk. Fasting (water or juice) would help, if you don't have low blood sugar problems. There are various herbal lung cleansers that could be Googled for. Terry Chamberlin __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSPoison oak/ivy
Pat said, We need advice on how to neutralize poison ivy juice! I once knew two girls who lived in the woods (California) who, every time they got poison oak/ivy, took 10,000 mg of Vit C each day. Said it made the rash disappear in a day or two. They believed it neutralized the poison. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSSilver paperwork
Do You Know Where Your Folder's Been? Smead products with built-in antimicrobial protection keep germs away HASTINGS, Minn., Dec. 15 /PRNewswire/ -- A seemingly harmless cough or sneeze by your co-worker launches germ droplets all over their office, easily attaching to that file folder waiting to be passed around. When it eventually lands on your desk, you not only get the folder, you get the germs from your co-worker's sneeze. Sound unlikely? This is the unpleasant reality, unless it's a Smead Antimicrobial folder. According to a University of Arizona study, the average desk harbors 400 times more bacteria than the average toilet seat.(1) Now, imagine how much of that bacteria from co-workers' desks has attached to your file folders. Since 99% of paper is actually food for bacteria, that file folder marked To Do might not get done for awhile -- if you get sick. Antimicrobial Protection Smead Manufacturing now has a solution to help minimize the spread of germs in the office. By teaming up with SilverCo, Smead now produces filing products that offer exclusive antimicrobial protection. Using patented antimicrobial technology, Smead folders are produced with Silver Zeolite which kills 99.7% of the bacteria, mold, mildew and fungus it comes in contact with... http://sev.prnewswire.com/office-products/20061215/CGF00515122006-1.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSColon cleasne
Scott said, I was wondering if any of you knew of a safe, homemade recipe that cleanses the colon? A Naturopathic doctor in Ontario shared this formula with me: Put 1 tspn (or up to 1 tbsn) Bentonite clay in a jar and add one cup (or up to one pint) good water. Let sit overnight. The next morning, add one tbsn of psyllium powder (seed or husks). Stir it all up together and drink down immediately (it becomes a gelatin quickly). By varying the clay/psyllium ratio, you can determine what works for you, i.e., if stools are too loose, reduce the amount of psyllium or increase the amount of clay. Because folks respond to bentonite clay differently, some experimentation may be needed some folks find clay constipating, some just the reverse. This is not an overnight process because it cleanses gently. Terry Chamberlin __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSDairy and glaucoma
Sol said, I once read an article that said that dairy products and/or the galactose enzyme needed to digest them (sold for the lactose intolerant) are strongly implicated in cataracts. We must remember to make a distinction between the milk that comes from sick, drugged commercial cows and the natural product (assuming you can find it) that humans have consumed for many thousands of years. All of my children have been raised on fresh, unpasteurized goat milk, from happy goats that run around in the sun eating greens. I have been fortunate in that way, that we have always been able to find folks who raise goats, not primarily as a business, but as members of the family. When I see the literature from the No-milk folks, they also seem to ignore this distinction. Historically, milk has been associated with good health (A land flowing with milk and honey). Terry Chamberlin __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSEPA opposes CS
EPA uses nanotech regulation ploy to target colloidal silver http://www.newstarget.com/021231.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSDeionized water
Kirsteen, Deionized water will usually work as well as distilled water. The only way to know for sure is to try it. If, after hooking everything up and turning it on, the water turns cloudy, you know it is not as pure as distilled water. If it stays clear during the process, even if it eventually acquires a yellow color, the water is fine. If you do get yellow CS, reduce your brewing time on the next batch. I assume that the ionization process, like reverse osmosis, can be operated at a varying degrees of efficiency, so you wouldn't know how well it is made until you tried it. Terry Chamberlin __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCS website
I quote from this website: http://www.anslabs.com/store/inpcs.html The particle size of our Colloidal Silver ranges between 0.004 and 0.107 microns, with over 75% measuring between 0.065 and 0.013 microns in diameter.* This is the ideal particle size for optimum absorption. There has also been much said about the toxicity of silver, however, laboratory tests performed on our silver products concluded that ...the test article(s) would not be considered toxic... Comments anyone? I didn't find .107 microns to be that impressive. Terry Chamberlin __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSTels report
Tel said, [Sister Rita] is doing fine with it now and helping hundreds of poor people Thank you Tel, for that report. I was wondering how things were going. I can't describe to you how gratifying it was to read your report! Thank you, Terry Chamberlin __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSh pylori CS
I wondered if anyone had any experience with h pylori and CS I have a doctor friend who got rid of her stomach ulcer (involving h pylori bacteria) in 4 days by drinking one ounce every 2 hours she was awake. Terry Chamberlin __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSMaking Kefir
Barbara said, I'm making kefir every day and here is the way I do it. Barbara, how would a person in Canada acquire kefir grains? Also, how would one make good kefir without using milk? Thanks for any suggestions, Terry Chamberlin __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCS mixed with animal feed
MA said, ..is there anyone else on the list who knows anything about sulphur, and to a lesser degree protein, binding to CS particles and rendering CS ineffective when mixed with feed? My mink farmer friend is currently mixing CS with his animal feed, hoping to see an improvement in his animals health. When I receive a report from him, good or bad, I will post it. Terry Chamberlin __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRO CS
Debbie said, so would RO water be just as good? If you cannot find steam distilled water, RO water will work, but your CS will probably not be clear. If you are forced to make/drink cloudy CS, simply add a 50 mcg. tablet (capsule is better) of selenium, plus 400-800 I.U.s of Vit E daily to your diet. If you own your own RO unit, you can set it to maximum filtering (it uses a porous membrane) and it will remove most or possibly all minerals from your water. If you buy the RO water, you are stuck with whatever the vendors set their RO machine at, which is rarely at the same level as steam distillation. Still, I'd rather drink RO CS and take some supplements than go without it. Terry Chamberlin __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSTongue cancer
Paula said, I appreciated your posting because I know someone who might have tongue cancer (and is afraid to have it biopsied). I will tell them to follow your advice. I wonder if DSMO might be helpful also? I would expect DMSO to be an effective addition to the use of CS, especially for possible tongue cancer. You would need a motivated person to hold a CS/DMSO mixture in their mouth for 5-10 minutes several times per day, but I would expect the DMSO to increase the effectiveness of the CS exponentially. If they didn't use DMSO (or even if they did), I would do the tongue soaking thing at least three times per day, more if possible. If they are motivated enough, the 6-volt battery thing would be a very important addition to using CS (called the Godzilla - go to: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/ Terry Chamberlin __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCS pregnancy
I have a question. Does anyone have any specific information about using Colloidal Silver during your first trimester of pregnancy? My daughter freely drank CS all through her pregnancy, started giving CS to her son right after he was born (1/4 tsn at the start), gave him CS every day the whole 3 years he's been alive. An ounce or two/day while pregnant wards off sickness and infection. Terry Chamberlin __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSJaw cancer
Tim said, I am the one who's girlfriend has a tumor in her jaw right where they took out a wisdom tooth.. I once received a call from a man who's wife had just been diagnosed with cancer of the tongue. The doctor said that they had waited too long and he would have to remove most of her tongue, but that he would remove as little as possible. How much of your tongue can you lose and still be intelligible? To make matters worse, she was a full-time counselor! The man called me on a Friday. I told him he needed to get a postponement of the surgery, that I couldn't do much in one weekend. I was thinking a 2-month postponement. He got 2-weeks. The doctor wailed, Oh, no, I'll have to remove your whole tongue! I had the wife take one ounce of CS, hold it in her mouth for 5 minutes by-the-clock, and then swallow it. She was to do this 3Xday. If I did this again, I would make it much more often. She did it for 2-weeks, then went in for her surgery. The doctor couldn't find enough cancer to even take a biopsy. He kept searching and search, finally gave up. Today, I would make it an ounce every hour or two, plus drink nothing but CS and mix CS in her food wherever it could be done. In other words, diluge her body with CS. I would also use the 6-volt battery idea from the microelectricitygermkiller website, with electrodes on the inside and outside of the jaw, 20 minutes per session, two or three sessions per day, switching polarity every 10 minutes. Tim, if you would like to discuss any of this further, feel free to email me privately. Terry Chamberlin Metabolic Solutions Institute Lawrencetown, Nova Scotia B0S 1M0 Canada 902-584-3810 msi...@yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCS patent
Ron said, Read about the only US patent of CS that we're aware of. http://tinyurl.com/y9ann6 This is not a patent of CS, it is a patent of a specific process of making CS, using 10,000 VAC and 8 electrodes. You cannot patent silver, God already has the patent on silver. You cannot patent a colloid, whether a silver colloid or a colloid of any other metal or substance, because these occur naturally. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCS water
Kirsteen said, Nope - believe me I'm quite happy to take advice - will keep looking for distilled water if it's necesary. BTW What happens if you just use filtered or purified water. I'm curious to know what I would end up with. I think it is important to renew the point - CS can be made with ANY water and it will be effective. Many people all over the world make CS with non-distilled water - spring, tap, reverse osmosis, filtered, even water from the Ganges River in India (which was reported to be very effective against Malaria, and nobody turned blue). If you brew CS with water that has any *stuff* in it - minerals, etc., it will not likely be clear, but will be milky and hazy. This doesn't mean it is bad or toxic, it just means the silver particles are joining themselves to the other minerals in the water. Not a worry. I never throw away CS, I drink it all. Twice I forgot about the brew (before I bought a digital timer) and ended up with 10 gallons of blackish, coffee-colored CS. I drank it all anyway. I'm still not blue! Most water treatment methods don't remove ALL the minerals from water. Steam distillation removes all the minerals, but if it doesn't have a charcoal filter there are modern chemicals that evaporate with the water and can make it through. Reverse Osmosis is capable of removing all the minerals, but is not usually run at the level where it does (too expensive and too much trouble). Deionization can also remove all the minerals. The term distilled can legally refer to water that has been treated in almost any way whatsoever (including filtering and even just boiling it). The words STEAM DISTILLED is supposed to be used only for steam distilled water. My philosophy is: Use steam distilled water if I can. If it is not available, I would use the next best thing. I would freely drink cloudy, murky CS made from tap water rather than not have CS. There is virtually no evidence to support the near-paranoia folks have about using non-distilled water. I have drunk many, many gallons of yellow to gold (or even brown) CS over the past 7 years. I am not blue. If you can't obtain genuine steam distilled water, use what you can get and, if you're nervous, take a Vit E capsule and a selenium tablet each day (or even a couple times per week). If yellow/gold/cloudy CS was even 1/10th as risky as you get the idea it is from comments made on the internet, there'd be thousands of blue folks all over the place. (And remember, the faint possibility of some blue gills is the only possible risk from ingesting generous quantities of home-made CS.) Let's keep level heads about this, it isn't dangerous stuff we're making here. It's safe, easy, effective, wonderful. Terry Chamberlin __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSMink rancher
Mike said, The full flow rate is going thru your clear 3/4 inch chamber now, right? And that is 10 gallons per minute or thereabout. No, I dont have a unit built with the clear tubing I mentioned. That is what I intend to use. Right now, the rancher is using my regular device that produces 10 gallons per hour. He then pours it into his 160-gallon tank. Is there some reason it has to be that high, or it just happened that way due to pipe size and pressure? I would think, the higher the stream velocity, the higher your voltage needs to be. Thats how much water flows through his normal garden hose at his water pressure. He estimated 10 gallons per minute because it takes 15-16 minutes to fill a 160-gallon tank. Yes, the water flow could be reduced if necessary to optimize CS production. Using 110VDC, I dont think a reduced water flow is needed. In fact, at only 10-gallons per minute, I may need to reduce the voltage to minimize the silver dissolution. 16-guage wires will fit into a standard garden hose, but I can see that if I use a silver/steel rod that is significantly thicker, I will probably need to house it in a larger tubing, maybe 1 or 2 wide, in order to have adequate space between the electrodes. I have some experimenting to do, as soon as I find a way to somewhat reliably determine ppm. Terry Chamberlin __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSMink rancher
Marshall said, Have you considered using copper tubing as the cathode and silver wire strung down the middle as the anode? Yes, but I couldn't figure out how to connect an electrical flow to the rod running down the middle. Also, the metal pipe would hide the silver rod, making it impossible to tell when it needed to be replaced. The clear plastic tubing appeals to me because it can be monitored how the silver rod is thinning. My friend came by yesterday with samples of CS that had been brewed for 5 minutes and also 2 minutes. He brought one of the silver wires with him to show me. After 5 batches of CS - the first at 10 minutes, 2 at 5 minutes and 2 at 2 minutes, the 14 guage silver wire is half dissolved. This means a lot of silver in the water, more than he needs. Today he will try 1 minute. He's quite satisfied with this because he is able to brew 20 gallons every 10-15 minutes (including filling and emptying the brewing jars), which he is adding to the food. His well water is obviously rich in minerals and very conductive. This makes me think he can brew adequate ppm CS with the flow-through unit I have in mind. I have to figure out how to measure the approximate ppm of silver he is brewing. The problem is that the water is already very high ppm with other minerals. The conductance type of testers only measured the ionic silver, not the colloidal?? Yet, almost certainly, most of what he is producing is colloidal because of using well water. Any ideas on how to get a basic idea? Terry Chamberlin __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSMink rancher
Wayne said, I started doing some calculations and then realized you were not going to use the flow thru system so I stopped. It would be nice if you could tell us a little more about the water system. I have been theorizing a lot, much of which is likely wrong. It appears you need some large silver electrodes. I have a friend from Africa that used to be a bookkeeper for a silver mine. Maybe he still has contacts there. Actually, it is a flow-thru I want, but not into the water supply. I want to be able to attach it into a garden hose water line. Then, whenever the client is filling his 160-gallon tank, he will be adding 160-gallons of CS (this water will be gradually mixed into the animal feed over two days time, so he only needs 80 gallons per day). I am using 16-guage silver wire right now because that is all I have, but I imagine using silver rods much thicker, maybe 1/8 or 3/16 think. I plan on using one silver rod and one stainless steel (or copper) because the client cannot be concerned with changing polarity. I want a unit that he can attach and forget until the silver rod becomes too thin. I have a device that gives me 0-600 VDC, with separate dials and meters for voltage and current. I may experiment with that to try to find an ideal voltage/current ratio. But the reality is that other producers of various 1-stomach animals (horses, pigs, minks, etc.) that are located in different locations will have differing water/mineral densities. So a standard voltage unit would produce widely differing results. Even this same mink rancher will have different water densities during different times of the year, due to changing water tables, etc. What would work fine with one water source might totally dissolve the silver rods very quickly with another water source. The other approach is to simply design a setup that brews 20, 30 or more gallons per day to be simply poured into the animal feed. I pretty much already know how to do that, but it needs some fine tuning. Terry Chamberlin __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCS device
Kirsteen said, I'd really like to be able to make my own CS. However i'm just not up to making my own generator - very technologically challenged. i was wondering if people thought this silver maker would be any use. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ionic-Colloidal-Silver-Maker... First off, this device is British, and runs on 230 volts. Secondly, at the current bid of 94 pounds, it would be very expensive in US or Canadian dollars (don't know which you are), plus the shipping from England. No, you don't want this device. Any number of folks on this list would be happy to assemble a basic battery unit for you for considerably less than the above unit. As Dan mentioned, do you want a unit that will shut itself off when finished? That will increase the cost some. What quantity of CS do you want to brew per batch? For folks fighting cancer or MS, etc., only being able to brew 8 to 16 oz per batch can make it a hassle. Some folks here sell a device that brews in the gallons-per-batch level (my own, for example!). That will also increase the price some. As you will see soon, there are several good vendors on this list who sell quality devices. Keep reading the posts here, you will see them. When you see something that meets your needs, contact that vendor directly. Terry Chamberlin Metabolic Solutions Institute msi...@yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSMink rancher, etc.
Carlos said, I remember how much emphasis has been placed on the great importance of using only steam distilled water of the best quality available in order to produce adequate EIS for human consumption. Or is it that in mink and other animals the biological laws work differently? For human usage, we consider distilled water to make completely safe CS. The minks on this ranch only live 7 months before their coats are taken from them. If they can get argyria in seven months, I don't think it matters. (Blue mink coats? There might be a market there.) Mike said, Given the geometry I was describing you couldn't allow the silver pieces to completely erode away. You'd have water leaking out the holes the wires come through, not to mention the wire and/or brass washer would also start eroding and contaminating the water with copper, zinc, nickel, etc... So I figure the coins (or bars) would be replaced when they got thin enough they would start exposing stuff. They would have to disassemble the cell and inspect the electrodes a few times during the first month of operation to get familiar with how they erode with use. That is why I am using clear tubing, so the condition of the silver rods can be observed. They wouldn't leak if they are sealed on the outside of the tube with silicone. There is no real water pressure to speak of here, the water flows through, but it shuts off at a point before the device is implemented into the water hose. Several folks have mentioned already existing devices that are used to sanitize water. They inject silver into the water in the parts-per-billion range. I called the one company someone mentioned to me - www.thomsontec.com - and they deliver 30% silver/70% copper in the ppb range (resulting in 1 - 3 ppb), US$2300, with the silver/copper bar lasting about six months. I'm not trying to sanitize the mink ranchers water, I'm trying to brew 160 gallons of CS per day. Since it will be mixed with dry feed (producing a mash), it seems to me that it needs to be 15-20 ppm at least to really protect the animals from the legion of diseases they are fighting. Terry Chamberlin __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSMink ranch
Today I bought 2 feet of 3/4 clear plastic tubing. It is my idea to run 18 of silver wire (maybe 2 or 3 strands twisted together for more silver and to make the strands stiffer), plus the same of stainless steel wire inside the tubing. They will run parallel to each other with almost 3/4 of space between them. At the beginning end of the wires, they will turn and go out through holes in the tubing wall on opposite sides. By connecting a negative and positive power source to the ends protruding out the tubing wall, I will essentially have the wires acting like electrodes such as hang down into a jar of water. In this case, the water will be flowing through the tube between the wires. Since the water flow will be about 10 gallons per minute, it seemed like 110VDC wouldnt be too high. Ill report back. Terry Chamberlin __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSMink rancher
This mink rancher houses 12,500 animals in 37 buildings, over about 30-40 acres. It doesnt seem realistic to try to brew CS into the amount of water that flows constantly to 37 buildings. The alternative is to treat the daily 160-gallon tank of water that is mixed with the animals feed. This would be done as the water was flowing into that tank. Today I spent the afternoon looking at various types of pipes and tubing, discussing what I was wanting to do with various salesmen. I finally became convinced that trying to suspend a silver rod down the middle of a section of metal pipe was too complicated. At last thought (until something better occurs to me), I envision using a ¾ clear plastic tubing about 12 long, with a silver rod on one side of the inside of the tube, and a stainless steel rod running parallel on the other side of the inside of the tubing. There would then be nearly ¾ between the two rods that the water is flowing between and through. The water flows through at about 10 gallons per minute into the 160-gallon tank. It seems that if I had 110VDC applied to the two metal rods (positive to the silver rod, negative to the steel rod), silver particles would be emitted into the water as it flowed through. The water flow is so fast that it only takes about 15 minutes to fill the 160-gallon tank. I can see the need to be able to perform before and after measurements of the water to get an idea of the silver ppm level. The problem with these measurements is that I dont know how to determine how much of, say, a 20 ppm measurement is silver and how much is the minerals already in the tap water that is flowing through the hose. I suppose if the water tested at 15 ppm before the unit was turned on, then read 20 ppm after going through my setup, that would mean the extra 5 ppm was added silver. ?? Comments? Terry Chamberlin __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Dan said, Water flowing through a tube or pipe, where the pipe is the ground potential and a silver wire suspended in the center of the pipe is at a positive potential would allow CS to be made continuously as long as water was flowing. The drinking water should already have relatively high conductivity and if the electrodes are close together it wouldn't necessarily take much voltage to get a high enough current flow. The Cell could be made as long as necessary. I'm not 100% sure of the safety of this.. The mink ranch fellow just left my house. I read him some of your post, and we discussed it. My concern about making silver in continuously flowing water is how fast the silver would be used up. Having to replace silver electrodes each week would be impractical and expensive. The water flows non-stop night and day. The animals drink from nipples set into the pipes running past their cages. The water must continually flow because, during Nova Scotia winters, it would freeze if it didnt. There is no drinking water 'tank'. The water flows in from one water inlet but diverges to 37 buildings to supply 12,500 animals. So the silver would need to be added to the water right at the beginning. It seems more practical to brew the water as it flows into the big plastic tank, just before being mixed with the food. This is a 160-gallon tank for the food preparation process, not drinking water. The tank is in a heated building, and is filled and used each day. Right now, the man is brewing 10 gallons of CS at a time with one of my 10-gallon devices and pouring it into the 160-gallon tank. I have recommended he brew each batch for 30 minutes since he is using tap water. 160 gallons per day of DW would be impossible to acquire, even if it wasnt expensive. He has an employee who is responsible to brew 10 gallons for 30 minutes, pour it into the holding tank, brew another batch, again and again repeatedly all day. This puts about 140-150 gallons of tap-water CS into his tank per day to be mixed with dry food (it makes a wet mash). This will work for awhile, but, using tap water means the 14-guage wires will dissolve pretty fast. He has just started doing this, in fact just starting today, so he doesn't know what benefit his animals will receive. To inject silver into the constantly-flowing water, I envision using a silver rod about the length and thickness of a pencil, suspended within a metal section of pipe (probably stainless steel) the width of a garden hose, or a bit wider. The water would flow through as fast as it could, which makes me think maybe 110VDC would be needed. Its only this 12-14 section of pipe/hose that would be made of metal, the rest is rubber/plastic. It could be insulated to prevent inadvertent shocks. The metal pipe would be grounded, and everything would be insulated. I even suggested, if we installed something like the previous paragraph, that he turn it on only during the day, since the animals mostly sleep at night. Comments and suggestions are very welcome. Terry Chamberlin __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSFlow-through CS
I have a friend who has a mink ranch, and his whole operation is being threatened by what he calls a Rotovirus. He contacted me this morning to inquire if I thought silver would be effective in protecting his animals. We spent some time discussing how to administer CS to his minks. The water his animals drink is from a constantly flowing source of water (like drinking from a stream), so it wouldnt be practical to try to put CS into that water. He prepares what is essentially a food mash each day using about 160 gallons (500-600 pounds) of water, which flows from a tank and is mixed with the dry food. This would be the opportunity to add CS. Some time ago someone on the list described a way they had come up with for injecting silver into water as it flowed. I think the application was maybe to treat large quantities of water as it flowed into a swimming pool. Could the list-member who discussed this method please contact me regarding how it was done? How can this friend of mine set up a way to brew CS as it flows into the holding tank? I am eager to hear any ideas anyone may have on how to do something like this. RSVP Terry Chamberlin __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCS question
Bob Adageyudi said, Please explain your statement: This gives me the highest silver concentration level in the water, but guarantees me safe particle size. I want to put as much silver in the water as I can while limiting the silver particle size. When the silver particles reach a certain size, they begin to refract light, giving the water a light yellow color. As they continue to get bigger, the color darkens. As long as the water stays crystal clear, I know the silver particles are too small to be of any concern (argyria or whatever), so I stop brewing just before color occurs. With my own CS, thats about 15-20 ppm (according to Bob Berger), which is as strong as anyone needs, especially if the particles are very small. Remember, its not how much silver is ingested, but how small the silver particles are. Remember also, ppm is a measurement of TOTAL SILVER CONTENT, not how many silver particles are present. You could have one lump of silver the size of a BB in the bottom of a jar of water and still have 20 ppm. Some of the studies demonstrating dramatic silver efficacy were conducted using ppb (parts-per-billion). Its not how many particles of silver that is responsible for the efficacy of CS, its how small they are. Terry Chamberlin __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSBrewing process
Peter said, I just let the process go until I have attained between 10 and 13 PPM then stop it. My concern is particle size.. As long as your CS is clear, particle size is fine. Even Tyndall effect is unimportant, if it is clear. The principle I use keeps it simple and safe. My goal is to brew it as long as I can and still end up with crystal clear CS. This gives me the highest silver concentration level in the water, but guarantees me safe particle size. All you need to do is keep increasing the brewing time a little bit with each batch until you get yellow CS (either by the end of the brewing time or by the next day). When you get that, use the previous brewing time. When Bob Berger was alive and testing CS, he pronounced my CS to be 18.7 ppm, very small particles and very few sparklies. Just what I want. I use the same formula with every batch. Of course, if your water quality changes, your results will too. Water temperature also is a factor. During the summer, when the room is warmer, I brew 10 gallons for one hour (sometimes only 50 minutes on a hot day). During the winter, when the room is colder, I may brew 70-80 minutes. Terry Chamberlin __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
