Re: [SLUG] Linux Databases
try running filemaker in wine Dean Phil Scarratt wrote: Edwin Humphries wrote: I'm trying to convert my personal PC use from Windoze to Linux. But there is a Win application that I've used for a long time for flat-file databases: Filemaker Pro. It's much better than other simple Win databases (eg, Access) and it isn't Microsoft! Can anyone suggest a Linux alternative? My key database is a database of my experimentation with bush food plants (yes, I know geek and gardener seem somewhat contradictory :-). This has several fields that contain bitmaps (photographs of plants). I know about SQL databases, but it seems a tad overkill for this - and there isn't a simple GUI front-end. Short answer: there is nothing that replaces Filemaker Pro or the like. One of the areas I think is lacking in Linux (more than happy to be proved wrong of course). OpenOffice does an OK job at being able to create an interface for the DB backends, but it's not as user-friendly as the Windows apps available - although it's more than a year since I was experimenting and it could well have changed (most if not all aspects of OO have only improved). I'm a little surprised that OO can't handle (as others have reported - I've no idea myself) bitmaps when the DB backends can. Filemaker Pro is originally a Mac program - is there an OSX version? There may be a Linux version if so. May be worth sreaching. Fil -- WWW: http://dean.bong.com.au LAN: http://www.bong.com.au EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 16867613 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux media player ...
i like mplayer Dean Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Jason Rennie So what is the best easiest media player for linux with the most supported codecs and so on ? What ever is recommend need XviD and DivX support. Totem with the libxine backend. - Jeff -- WWW: http://dean.bong.com.au LAN: http://www.bong.com.au EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 16867613 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] embperl and its mail function
i cant seem to make sense of how to use embperl's inbuilt email functions can someone send me a quick example even a link found on google ;) Dean -- WWW: http://dean.bong.com.au LAN: http://www.bong.com.au EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 16867613 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] embperl and its mail function
im more after how i would use embperls mail functions in a web page
Dean
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Sep 08, 2004 at 05:32:11PM +1000, Dean Hamstead wrote:
i cant seem to make sense of how to use embperl's inbuiltr
email functions
can someone send me a quick example
even a link found on google ;)
[ Okay, first version get held for moderation by Mailman, with a
'Message has a suspicious header' warning - I'll try adding a
Message-ID ]
Reply sent via HTML::Embperl::Mail :-), using:
perl -MEmail::MessageID -MTime::Piece -MHTML::Embperl::Mail -le HTML::Embperl::Mail::Execute({
inputfile = 'reply-to-dean.epl',
subject = 'Re: [SLUG] embperl and its mail function',
to = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]',
from = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]',
mailheaders = [
'In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]',
'Date: ' . localtime-strftime('%a, %d %b %Y %H:%M:%S %z'),
'Message-ID: ' . Email::MessageID-new,
'X-Mailer: HTML::Embperl::Mail',
] })
reply-to-dean.epl is the mail template, and contains exactly what you're
reading here, except that embperl stuff gets executed as expected e.g.
[+ localtime +] gets expanded to: Wed Sep 8 20:59:19 2004.
HTH,
Gavin
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[SLUG] cgi.pm and the upload function
im trying to upload (via a web form) an image
file and then put it into a mysql table
(wow i bet thats never been done befre)
my $filehandler = $cgi-upload('file');
while ( $filehandler ) {
print $_;
}
is just returning nothing
my $filehandler = $cgi-upload('file');
while ( $filehandler ) {
$filecontents .= $_;
}
my $sth = $dbh-prepare();
$sth-execute($filecontants);
$sth-finish();
nothing goes into the field of the table.
im running debain with perl straight out of apt-get
i get the feeling that debian is doing things funny because
i cant seem to get outside of the current directory
(eg ../ or ../../../files/ or even absolute paths)
could be apache2 and mod_perl
anyway ive googled poor firefox to death. im sure its
an easy fix
Dean
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[SLUG] mrtg + exim
if anyone has some nice mrtg config and scripts for monitoring exim i would be really appreciative if you linked or sent them ive googled away my evening without much love. would asking for graphs with rejections or even spam oriented stuff be too much? well anything that would stop me having to start from scratch. thanks Dean -- WWW: http://dean.bong.com.au LAN: http://www.bong.com.au EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 16867613 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] IDE Flaky on Linux ?
yeah you can just get pci card - ide controllers. but first of all i would make sure your running the latest version of your distribution of choice. you could upgrade your kernel (which is effectively what im saying) but i would just stick with easy steps for now and just make sure your distribution is up to date and hence that your kernel is fairly new. you would have to find out what chips you are running exactly then see how well they are support. generally though most of the hardware problems of the past have gone. most of the big manufacturers now give out specs i believe. they are pretty much killing themselves now if they dont. i think creative pretty much proved that being silly about it just gets your hardware blacklisted and when you release specs (and crap drivers) assuming your hardware is good someone will fix them nicely. sb live is what i was refering to. initially black listed but now probably the best sound card for linux. Dean Rod Butcher wrote: Thanks... how do I check what IDE controller I have ? I have a $99 Gigabyte board with all Via chips. How do you use a separate controller ? PCI board ? (be patient with me, I'm used to Windows and don't you worry about that). thanks, Rod Dean Hamstead wrote: ide is way better on linux than in windows but that all depends on the support for your ide controller chip (so basically the driver) options include upgrading your kernel or getting another ide controller. i just bought a nice silicon image pci ide controller for $40 whole dollars that gives me another 2 channels ata133 Dean Rod Butcher wrote: Newbie here again... I think I've narrowed dow my system flakiness during heavy audio editing to a 10-gig Seagate IDE drive I was using for temp work files... switching these to the main SATA 120 gig drive results in a stable system. Reason for using the IDE drive was to try and spread the disk IO around. My IDE CDROM R/W drive is also flaky on Linux... both IDE devices work great on Win2K dualbooted on the same box. So - is IDE known to be flaky on Linux, or is it a matter of me configuring my system better ? The CD Burner is old anyway and only writes these days at 2x, so I need to get another one soon - question is, what type should I get to suit Linux ? thanks Rod -- WWW: http://dean.bong.com.au LAN: http://www.bong.com.au EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 16867613 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] IDE Flaky on Linux ?
the ide driver will be built into the kernel. you can either type 'lspci' or watch while your machine boots or look in /var/log/messages it could be a conflict with pata and sata buts hard to say without more details you know. your kernel is a little old but not chronically old. it would be worth updating if possible. i dont know if mandrake has a nice update method or not. thats kind of why i use debian. but mandrake will still rock your world. but without knowing specifically what your hardware is its hard to say if there are known problems and what the state of support linux has for your hardware. Dean Rod Butcher wrote: Thanks Dean. Is it possible that IDE doesn't work too well together with SATA ? I have Mandrake 2.6.3 kernel, and I don't want to touch it for a few months yet... by then I'll have a list of things to do to it ! It's stable now and I want to keep it that way. What command do I issue to find out what IDE driver is loaded ? Is it a module or builtin to the kernel ? The Controller and devices must be OK if they work OK for Win 2k, so it can only be driver or incompatibility with SATA surely ? thanks Rod --- Brought to you by a thunderbird, penguin, gnu and a camel Dean Hamstead wrote: yeah you can just get pci card - ide controllers. but first of all i would make sure your running the latest version of your distribution of choice. you could upgrade your kernel (which is effectively what im saying) but i would just stick with easy steps for now and just make sure your distribution is up to date and hence that your kernel is fairly new. you would have to find out what chips you are running exactly then see how well they are support. generally though most of the hardware problems of the past have gone. most of the big manufacturers now give out specs i believe. they are pretty much killing themselves now if they dont. i think creative pretty much proved that being silly about it just gets your hardware blacklisted and when you release specs (and crap drivers) assuming your hardware is good someone will fix them nicely. sb live is what i was refering to. initially black listed but now probably the best sound card for linux. Dean Rod Butcher wrote: Thanks... how do I check what IDE controller I have ? I have a $99 Gigabyte board with all Via chips. How do you use a separate controller ? PCI board ? (be patient with me, I'm used to Windows and don't you worry about that). thanks, Rod Dean Hamstead wrote: ide is way better on linux than in windows but that all depends on the support for your ide controller chip (so basically the driver) options include upgrading your kernel or getting another ide controller. i just bought a nice silicon image pci ide controller for $40 whole dollars that gives me another 2 channels ata133 Dean Rod Butcher wrote: Newbie here again... I think I've narrowed dow my system flakiness during heavy audio editing to a 10-gig Seagate IDE drive I was using for temp work files... switching these to the main SATA 120 gig drive results in a stable system. Reason for using the IDE drive was to try and spread the disk IO around. My IDE CDROM R/W drive is also flaky on Linux... both IDE devices work great on Win2K dualbooted on the same box. So - is IDE known to be flaky on Linux, or is it a matter of me configuring my system better ? The CD Burner is old anyway and only writes these days at 2x, so I need to get another one soon - question is, what type should I get to suit Linux ? thanks Rod -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] IDE Flaky on Linux ?
ide is way better on linux than in windows but that all depends on the support for your ide controller chip (so basically the driver) options include upgrading your kernel or getting another ide controller. i just bought a nice silicon image pci ide controller for $40 whole dollars that gives me another 2 channels ata133 Dean Rod Butcher wrote: Newbie here again... I think I've narrowed dow my system flakiness during heavy audio editing to a 10-gig Seagate IDE drive I was using for temp work files... switching these to the main SATA 120 gig drive results in a stable system. Reason for using the IDE drive was to try and spread the disk IO around. My IDE CDROM R/W drive is also flaky on Linux... both IDE devices work great on Win2K dualbooted on the same box. So - is IDE known to be flaky on Linux, or is it a matter of me configuring my system better ? The CD Burner is old anyway and only writes these days at 2x, so I need to get another one soon - question is, what type should I get to suit Linux ? thanks Rod -- WWW: http://dean.bong.com.au LAN: http://www.bong.com.au EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 16867613 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] exchange server 2003 linux replacement
most people dont even need all features of exchange. most people (even just for internal mail) will do quite happily with nothing more than a pop3 mail server. even my work, which has pisses hundreds of thousands into exchange and hardware blah blah blah, could easily just use pop3 (even with exchange) and an ldap server for some address booking Dean Matthew Palmer wrote: On Mon, Aug 16, 2004 at 02:49:34AM -0700, pesoy misak wrote: Dear all Well I just got a little story behind this question. I just succeed convince my customer that trying to do web design using ASP.net to use Linux using PHP yeaaahhh Linux Rulez. now seems I got a bit problem trying to convince this administrator to change all the system using linux. he is asking about the mail server for replacement for their exchange server 2003 that he said is the best (may be true) I just want to debate with this guy since I haven't much experience with mail server. he want to know the capabilities of each linux mail server and compatibilty and how much can the mail server handle like how much email etc, etc and how much size that it could handle The first thing to realise is that most Linux mail servers aren't an integrated whole -- you build them together from the relevant bits -- pick an MTA that best suits your needs, bolt an MDA for your desired message storage format (if it's not supported natively by your MTA), and then put an IMAP/POP server on for retrieval. This mix and match approach is useful, because you can (for instance) support sites with a relatively low rate of incoming mail, but a high rate of client-side IMAP access by choosing the right tools for the job. There are a couple of integrated mail systems -- I think cyrus 2 is like this, and there's XMail and Courier, and a bunch of commercial ones like Communigate are like them. I hate the really tightly bound ones, because they're a big black box -- hmm, like Exchange. Basically, you can easily build a mail server which will handle several times the volume of mail that Exchange will for a fraction of the *hardware* cost, let alone the licencing fees. On the other hand, there is one thing that Exchange does that nobody else has managed to provide -- the complete basic groupware functionality and integration with Outlook. Outlook is (incomprehensibly) popular, and a lot of companies want/like the integrated shared calendars and address books, which really nothing else does. And, when it comes down to it, your average click-monkey can usually fix what's wrong with an Exchange server by either pointing and clicking (thus accidentally fixing whatever they accidentally fucked up in the first place) or by sacrificing a goat and reinstalling at the correct phase of the moon. No actual thought required in either case, which is an unpleasant side effect of running a decent mail system (or server in general). Oops, I think I'm frothing a bit. Hope I didn't get any on the carpet. - Matt -- WWW: http://dean.bong.com.au LAN: http://www.bong.com.au EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 16867613 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] exchange server 2003 linux replacement
go get the calendar plugin for firefox/thunderbird/mozilla or get it as the stand alone app 'sunbird'. personally ive found sunbird to be good on its own (in windows) its based on the nice open standadrd apple made with ical. ical is a cool calendaring app thats for sure, i love it. use it on my mac. but use sunbird everywhere else. because of nice open standards, i can drop calendars back and forth perfectly. sunbird it going to murder outlook. i can seriously see firefox, thunderbird and sunbird taking some serious market share in the upcoming shortish time period. firefox is already wiping out ie and thunderbird is taking outlook express to town. Dean Rev Simon Rumble wrote: This one time, at band camp, Dean Hamstead wrote: most people dont even need all features of exchange. most people (even just for internal mail) will do quite happily with nothing more than a pop3 mail server. even my work, which has pisses hundreds of thousands into exchange and hardware blah blah blah, could easily just use pop3 (even with exchange) and an ldap server for some address booking It grabs me that the biggest problem free software has in this sphere is that Microsoft have set the bar too high. Everyone assumes that all organisations need all the features Exchange provides. In my experience, LDAP, IMAP and some kind of calendar are all that are needed. Are there no free software clients that integrate these features? I think calendaring is the big gap... -- WWW: http://dean.bong.com.au LAN: http://www.bong.com.au EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 16867613 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Which flavour of Linux
personally i would never consider mandrake ever. its major bloatware (so flame me *shrug*) debian is really really good. I havent used fedora but redhat was seriously becoming bloatware and i just left it. mandrake took redhat and just bloated it more. if debian is a little raw for you (no offence if it is) then you might want to look at suse. slackware is still out there and kicking as well. ive really been meaning to run crux (linux) on something also. i much prefer the BSD boot system so crux looks good from where i sit. personally i run linux on desktops (mainly ppc's at this moment) with freebsd and openbsd servers. granted freebsd is a bit bloated but openbsd is supremely light. ok this is a linux list but dont look past the bsd's ;) in summary. forget mandrake. most likely forget fedora check out debian, check out suse, check out crux. check out slackware Dean Phill wrote: I have been playing around with linux for a little while now and want to setup a web server that incorporates webdav and jsp largely for uni I currently use mandrake 10 because of the simplicity to setup. What is the general feeling about mandrake amongst SLUG and is there a better flavour to use. Bearing in mind that I have definite time constraints so it must be quick easy to install and maintain plus cope with multimedia. How does mandrake compare with fedora and debian? Phill -- WWW: http://dean.bong.com.au LAN: http://www.bong.com.au EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 16867613 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: [activities] Wireless fest - 14 Aug 2004 - Postponed for 5 weeks
doesnt it fall under slugs PLI? Dean Richard Hayes wrote: On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 01:50 pm, Simon Males wrote: this still on ? if so mail acitivies again to get on the slug.org.au front page Sorry for the delay in replying but the Wirelessfest is delayed for about 5 weeks. The cheapest public liability insurance quote I got was nearly $300 for the day and others where up to $500 Trying to get some cheaper insurance. -- WWW: http://dean.bong.com.au LAN: http://www.bong.com.au EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 16867613 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] mailman and exim (well mysql as well but its ok)
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im trying to get mailman to play nice with exim
versions are both latest
exim is working fine (its using mysql,exiscan+spammassassion+clamav)
delivering email happily to pop3 and qpopper is just loving life as well
now mailman works just fine on the www side of things
but i cannot post to lists!!
heres exim -d -bd -q30m output
~ 4635 argv[1] = post
~ 4635 argv[2] = bong
~ 4635 Writing message to pipe
31141 set_process_info: 31141 reading output from
|/usr/local/lib/mailman/mail/mailman '${if def:local_part_suffix
{${sg{$local_part_suffix}{-(\\w+)(\\+.*)?}{\$1}}} {post}}' $local_part
~ 4635 writing data block fd=8 size=47 timeout=3600
~ 4635 writing data block fd=8 size=2100 timeout=3600
~ 4635 writing data block fd=8 size=1 timeout=3600
~ 4635 writing error 32: Broken pipe
~ 4635 transport error EPIPE ignored
~ 4635 mailman_transport transport yielded 2
~ 4635 search_tidyup called
14672 mailman_transport transport returned FAIL for [EMAIL PROTECTED]
14672 post-process [EMAIL PROTECTED] (2)
14672 LOG: MAIN
14672 ** [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=mailman_router T=mailman_transport:
Child process of mailman_transport transport returned 2 from command:
/usr/local/lib/mailman/mail/mailman
14672 deliveries are done
exim knows it needs to send it to mailman,
heres the configure file details
~ mailman_transport:
~driver = pipe
~command = MM_WRAP \
~ '${if def:local_part_suffix \
~{${sg{$local_part_suffix}{-(\\w+)(\\+.*)?}{\$1}}} \
~{post}}' \
~ $local_part
~current_directory = MM_HOME
~home_directory = MM_HOME
~user = MM_UID
~group = MM_GID
straight from the howto
any ideas?
dean
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Re: [SLUG] RAID-5 array problems
it may be time to replace the whole original array 3x40 gigs isnt much any more, so you might want to dump it off to tape and make the raid5 again from scratch with the new disks seeing as one has died it may be the beginings of more deaths so replacing them all now might save problems in the future. Dean Rowling, Jill wrote: I wonder if it would come up OK if you formatted and partitioned only 40GB of the new disk, and used the other 40GB as a spare logical drive? That is, trick the hardware into thinking it has three 40 GB disks again. I recently had to replace both halves of a mirrored array (RAID-1 on Solaris/SPARC) because I could not buy the same hardware that was originally installed. I wonder if RAID-5 is similar? The only time I've ever heard of different types of disks used in a RAID system is when people make up a RAID-0 stripe from JBOD. Cheers, Jill. -Original Message- From: Chris Henman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 19 July 2004 12:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] RAID-5 array problems Dear All, I have a RAID-5 array consisting of three 40GB disks (ext3) on a machine running Redhat 3.0ES. Recently one of the three disks failed; hdf. All continued happily on two disks. Yeterday I bought some new disks; 3 x 80GBs. I replaced the bad disk with a new one, formated and partioned the new disk and did a raidhotadd. All seemed well, see copy of lsraid -A -a md0. [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# lsraid -A -a /dev/md0 [dev 9, 0] /dev/md0 02EF0419.559F377C.34A1ABA4.2AAE1C59 online [dev 33, 1] /dev/hde102EF0419.559F377C.34A1ABA4.2AAE1C59 good [dev 33, 65] /dev/hdf102EF0419.559F377C.34A1ABA4.2AAE1C59 good [dev 34, 1] /dev/hdg102EF0419.559F377C.34A1ABA4.2AAE1C59 good until I rebooted. hdf was missing. I did another raidhotadd and all was well again. I waited until the disks had completely resynced and tried again. Same result. Below are raidtab and fstab, neither of which have been altered by me. [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]# cat raidtab raiddev /dev/md0 raid-level 5 nr-raid-disks 3 chunk-size 64k persistent-superblock 1 nr-spare-disks 0 device /dev/hde1 raid-disk 0 device /dev/hdf1 raid-disk 1 device /dev/hdg1 raid-disk 2 also, fstab is quite straightforward. [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]# cat fstab LABEL=/ / ext3defaults1 1 LABEL=/boot /boot ext3defaults1 2 none/dev/ptsdevpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0 /dev/md0/home ext3defaults1 2 none/proc procdefaults0 0 none/dev/shmtmpfs defaults0 0 /dev/hda3 swapswapdefaults0 0 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom udf,iso9660 noauto,owner,kudzu,ro 0 0 /dev/fd0/mnt/floppy auto noauto,owner,kudzu 0 0 Any suggestions as to why? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Home LAN IP details
your modem/router shoul dbe able to tell you leases or 'arp -a' will tell you what your computer knows about Dean bill wrote: I have a home LAN - 3 PC's networked via an ethernet switch and connected to the 'Net via a modem/router. The PC's IP's are generated by the modem/router via DHCP. AS the IP assigned appears to depend on the socket on the ethernet switch to which the PC is connected, and as each PC is running a different OS or Linux distro ( some of which are lacking access to basic commands such as ifconfig), and 1 PC is running without monitor/keyboard/mouse and is accessed via tightvnc, is there a command or a GUI that will give me the hostnames and IP's of each PC connected to the LAN? I have googled and read many networking/vnc howto's etc with no luck. thanks in advance BILL -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] port trunking
anyone got a link of somewhere to start for port trunking we have all cisco gear on the server farm, and id like to make some server - switch trunks (gigabit is an option, but seeing as we have lots of free 100mbps ports and multiple unused 100mbs cards. say hello dell servers) Ideas? Links? Dean -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] port trunking
maybe i nee to clarrify i want to connect 2 or more (lets say n) number of network connections from a single server to a single switch and utilise them all for sending data. i understand that recieveing may be limited but sending can use all via some fancy mac spoofing. i also believe that linux (and others) can pretend to be a switch (etherchanel or whatever) and thus have n x 100mbps throughput full duplex Dean DaZZa wrote: On Thu, 8 Jul 2004, Dean Hamstead wrote: anyone got a link of somewhere to start for port trunking we have all cisco gear on the server farm, and id like to make some server - switch trunks (gigabit is an option, but seeing as we have lots of free 100mbps ports and multiple unused 100mbs cards. say hello dell servers) Ideas? Links? www.cisco.com Trunking is dead easy on Cisco switches, provided the OS running on the switch is older than something like version 11. I suspect what you want is not, however, what Cisco calls trunking. Trunking in the Cisco world is a means of managing VLAN's - what you want is known as etherchanneling or an etherchannel - it's also easy to setup from the switch side of things, but I don't know how you'd go at the server end. DaZZa -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Help Configuring CPAN and wget Issue on Solaris !
just because you get http doesnt mean you get ftp so check that your running ftp through your http proxy also check that your proxy allows you to get to ftp stuff maybe you need to set passive ftp *shrug* Dean Louis wrote: On Wed, Jun 30, 2004 at 10:40:13AM +1000, Louis wrote: I hope queries on Solaris is ok on the list. Not until they GPL Solaris! But anyway, this is a perl/wget/proxy question anyway Perhaps your proxy requires authentication? Well on the Sun box, within Netscape when I enter manual proxy details IP, port number for all (no username and password), I can go to web sites . So I guess no authentication is required. Anyone else. Matt -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Interested Was Re: About LPI exams (was Re: [SLUG] Semester 2 Linux Courses)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Well im interested i emailed the gentleman who posted initially (graham??) not sure if he responded somewhere in the flood of responses. just need to know more details than the general ones right now eg. day of the week, do you need to be a tafe student. will the instructor/cooridinator book exams for the class all the usual. LPI 1 does looks simple and yes its just memorized stuff. but i think everyone who has any form of unix cert should know what 'man' is off the top of there heads. and some grasp of ls. this isnt a MS cert after all *ducks* i didnt see anything in the example exam i didnt answer correctly already and that i thought would be unreasonable for someone to know off the top of there head. surely most of us are past 'cat --help' ;) someone send me info, *waves money about to try and get salemans attention* Dean Ken Foskey wrote: | On Sun, 2004-06-27 at 16:40, Dave Airlie wrote: | | |yeah I've always hated this aspect of those types of exams, (I've also |never officially done any..), Sun exams seem to be similiar asking |questions about an arcane switch on ls for example... where my thinking |was being a good admin is knowing how to find the answers to problems |rather than trying to learn a fixed set of answers if you see what I mean |:-) | | | | How often do you take time out to actually look at the options on ls? | | One of the benefits of the course (and cert) is that you actually take | time to look. For example the really cool but underused option `ls -F`. | -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFA3rdfI1HDX08lY+ARAkUXAJ4/NtNHOw5jr2L6ZGwvFatSeKL/qgCfV7rT GA8vq6BKe9fwEByDvvzYIqc= =AwEg -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] linux laptop shopping
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 i can vouch for an ibook. they are great. dont look past powerpc's. linux runs perfectly personally im running debian, but you can compile stuff if you like (which i sometimes do) works just like linux anywhere else. Dean Chris Deigan wrote: | quote(Simon Males); | |Other things I feel I must have included: Firewire, which it seems that |many toshiba models lack. Audio must work, so should I pay attention to |the chipset. Possibly 64MB video (Nvidia I've had experience with |although I believe ATI has the portable market). Do not want anything |bigger than 15. | | | The new iBooks (or Powerbooks) are nice, and a good steal if you | can get the edu discount. | | Integrated wireless antenna and customizable, and as demonstrated at last | meeting -- not bad for wardriving. ;-) | | |If someone could rant on warranty and who has received there MS tax |refund :) | | | What is this MS you talk about. ;-) | | - Chris -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFA1D1ZI1HDX08lY+ARAnyqAKDB22dHFHl3w2Ukqw+QjbLvPTrwigCfU0xY g7fR6kG/P/inxc3SGS0Jq1A= =z/p8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Wireless fest - 14 Aug 2004
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 penrith is good for me. would be there with bells and whistles and my debian-ibook Dean Richard Hayes wrote: | On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 02:13 pm, Simon Males wrote: | |where? | | | Yet to be confirmed but maybe either Seven Hills or Penrith | | Penrith is 5 mins of M4 with big garden with BBQ ;) (10 mins walk from | station) Seven Hills is 5 min walk from station. | Both have lots of parking | -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFAyw4cI1HDX08lY+ARAoybAJwNiS2ONhJpdvd2BOrMQoDPmB5cnACglfqw DaR5hclS9PwQ1gokAfQC2Xc= =h9Rw -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Digital cameras and motion video
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 if you can get your camera supported via video4linux then you can use gnomemeeting etc. if its just usb-storage, youll just have to save to .mov or whatever and move it across. chances are if you cant use it as a webcam in windows you can in linux either. i havent had good experiences with gnome-meeting. although i was running it in the most obscure configuration concievable (running on an imac (running debian), using the quickcam express (dodgy driver even on i386 - youll note quickcam express's dont work on macs other than in linux though), and i was connecting to a windows me machine using netmeeting with the worst webcam ever (courtesy of samsung)) YYMV - infact it definately will. im sure gnomemeeting is solid as a rock when its not being put to such unreasonable tests. Dean Michael Chesterton wrote: | Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | | |Is it possible to pull motion video from most / any cameras and save to the |host computer, or use it with software like gnomemeeting? I can't think of a |way, but I haven't really played with this stuff enough. | | | I think some cameras have a webcam feature, mine doesn't appear | to. Other than that, I have no idea. | -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFAxGOEI1HDX08lY+ARAtr/AKCYYtSATbDdKb9rJsEFV4nGQp/EkwCdEkny CfICiYt9SVq3n5dEoWIIPwE= =455m -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Off Topic? - Re: [SLUG] Which open source license is best
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 not sure if im correct, but i think this thread is more ontopic in the slug-chat list, but im sure debating licensing isnt ontopic for a linux discussion list. anyone with higher authority want to clarrify? not trying to stiffle debate but just trying to classify it Dean David Guest wrote: | Jeff Waugh wrote: | | | quote who=Brad Kowalczyk | | | | Just one small Q, lets say I develop an app and release it under | | say the GPL, if I then improve on this app adding new features | | and functionality and wish to make a $ with it can I then release | | it under a shudderclosed source/shudder license even though | | it is heavily based on GPL'd code? | | | | | | Because you hold the copyright, yes. | | | | Here's an example: | | | | Ximian wrote the Evolution groupware suite, so hold the copyright. | | They require copyright attribution from contributors so that they | | continue to hold copyright over the complete work. That allowed | | them to ship Evolution with the Exchange connector (which until a | | few weeks ago, was closed). | | | | If their contributors had not assigned copyright, Ximian would not | | be able to ship a proprietary module along with their contributor's | | code. Quite a few projects work in a similar fashion | | (FSF/GNU-backed projects, Twisted, etc). | | Jeff | | A few questions if I may. | | Are there any projects where subsequent developers have also dual | licensed their contributions under the GPL and a closed source | license? Essentially they would trying to do the same as Ximian or | MySQL, viz. have an income stream from commercial extension and | application while making their code freely available under the GPL. | | Alternatively are their commercial contracts for assigning copyright | under dual licensing? (e.g. I get one dollar for every seat where this | application is used under a commercial license.) Or is this too messy | to handle in practice? | | David | | -- | PGP public key 0x24606D9C at pgp.mit.edu | 56D7 3608 6D73 0E11 064E 79C8 AC8E 6CAE 2460 6D9C | | -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFAwpXqI1HDX08lY+ARAlkSAJ9WOS4Iz5s3CJVvufa9oU1orDb9QwCePcOq uPw1N2HNm42FP6Z0cptTQG0= =4qzT -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Enterprise Platform
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 | Debian has some good points and some very serious failings. One I have | just come across was in trying to install RAID and LVM at the same | time. In fact even trying to install RAID as part of the installation | didn't want to work for me using the debian-installer because I wanted | to install LVM on RAID 1 arrays. I could have had LVM as part of the | installation setup but then that wouldn't have been on RAID arrays. | | With RedHat (use Fedora for current installs) at least I can get RAID 1 | on _all_ of my installed partitions and can then do LVM on those RAID | arrays where I want it. | | To me this is a major shortfall in Debian. installation quirks are more relative to your level of compentence with linux. thats not supposed to put anyone down. but the above mentioned issue is a more enlarged version of saying mandrake is better than redhat because it uses kde over gnome. i dont know which either uses by default as im an avid enlightenment/debian junky and never do default installs anyway. but hopefully you can see my point. Dean -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFAqZxiI1HDX08lY+ARAneIAKCG1IMiSiIe42WpndmY5fTkLL8/2gCg144i wNjIBMoyWJVxuDfJVLXJgbE= =GKON -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADVICE REQUEST: Modem support in mission-critical environments
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 if they are just hardware modems then there is no need for 'drivers'. you just initialise it and off you go. its just that windows calls everything 'drivers'. drivers is a strange word anyway, do you need a driver for your cpu?. oh the philosophy of it is mind blowing. i would put linux ahead of windows. my advise would be to be conservative with your install. not throw on the latest kernel straight from CVS and expect 3 year uptimes. im assuming linux enterprise server is a redhat distribution. its sad how windows-esque names are invading the linux world. anyway its all just a kernel, glibc and some random console tools to me. im also a big fan of freebsd on servers. without being flamed too much i usually prefer to run freebsd/openbsd on servers and use linux on my desktops. but thats mainly because i think the bsds are packaged better. you should have no problems running some form of radius or ldap server etc. id pay money youll get closer to a perfect solution on free unix that you would on one of bills crowd Dean VK2COT wrote: | Hello, | | One of the customers wants to run Linux Enterprise | Server 3 with several modems attached to it. | | They purchased HP ProLiant DL380 server and | wish to use NetComm modems. | | The issue is that hey wantto have unbreakable | evnironment and that modems do not fail | under Linux. | | I have spoken to Netcomm and their official response was | that none of their modem products officially support Linux, | and no drivers and technical support were available for Linux. | | Red Hat offers support for the CDC/ACM driver, which is | classified as Working. | |From experience, if a modem is a full hardware based modem | and using serial interface for external modem, then it can be | worked with Linux. | | Only two NetComm modems are full hardware devices: | | AM5698 NetComm Roadster V.92 (serial interface) | AM4068 NetComm Wave V.92 (serial interface) | | The question is: is it worth playing with Linux support for | modems on what customer wants to call mission-critical | server? | | What is you experience? Do you run, or are you aware | of any critical environment where Linux servers are used | with directly-attached (or through a hub, Adaptec for example) | modem pool? | | I know that Linux can work for reasonable use, but the | services that customer have in mind are higly critical and | highly utilised round the clock... | | I welcome and thank you for any comments in advance. | | Regards, | | Dusan (Amateur Radio VK2COT) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFAo1XZI1HDX08lY+ARAgtHAJ9LLoVXFmbty2J+juU6JibCPxSOkQCeLROY GcJMcowz8zY7MnzVyABQDPI= =0OGa -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] mysql databases
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 success! thanks Dean Matthew Palmer wrote: | On Wed, May 12, 2004 at 02:35:43PM +1000, Dean Hamstead wrote: | |is it possible to copy a database from one mysql installation |to another by copying the files | | | Yes, but make sure you stop both databases before beginning the copy, and | that they've both stopped doing their thing before you start to copy. | | - Matt -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFAodhVI1HDX08lY+ARAnF6AKCdGJJF2dPJAvZHHdT/NCMIWfjhWACg28lC uaOoQR5XoX+GsWd+due8mic= =E7ZL -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] mysql databases
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 is it possible to copy a database from one mysql installation to another by copying the files obviously i could dump the database and reimport it but thats not practical i just want to copy the files from /var/mysql and drop them in on another machine can this be done, i assume i need to tell mysql about the new files? Dean -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFAoameI1HDX08lY+ARAkaYAJ9mhb7Ni8ZOd2YNaM41jRV6GDX4qgCg2/3p CvliGOCzEAJJH/JzoVN4scU= =hP9V -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Desktops
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 i believe there is a gnome version of oo that has ms style buttons and stuff. also gnome or kde should behave enough like windows for normal users. just click on button, click on app. easy! personally i cant stand using windows at all, i find it cant run the applications i want to use not that it has enough applications. i also find it very unproductive and not very user friendly. infact all the complaints that are against linux usability i honestly feel against windows. i mean, how much effort is it to sort a test file in windows vs linux? cat file.txt | sort file2.txt now try that fast in windows. but seriously, lindows is supposed to be ok. and gnome and kde sites should shed some light. Dean Simon Bryan wrote: | On Sat, May 8, 2004 2:20 pm, James Gregory said: | |Hey all, | |I've been getting a lot of requests from people for whom I've setup |Linux desktops who are becoming increasingly frustrated with the fact |that their Linux box doesn't behave like windows. There's a bunch of |ways this manifests, but most commonly I field complaints that |OpenOffice is completely unusable on the basis that menu items are |arranged differently. | | | Strange I get the same complaints, but it is due to using differnet | versions of MS Office and different versions of Windows! | | Have you looked at customising the toolbars to put some things in the | 'right'place, but ask first which version of Office on which version of | Windows you want to emulate. | | In addition for things that have keyboard shortcuts - all the ones I have | used are the same. So start with a cheat sheet of these to turn them into | 'Power Users' - at least convince them of that. | | Alternatively I have shown some MS addicts Lindows (not sure of it's | current status) and they were quite happy with that. | | | -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFAnJNsI1HDX08lY+ARAqczAKDQrSUu/A6ZsXDRFrBZ0XvfxhuifwCfTNOv A1QCNBs6MuI8I1Q2hIziu+k= =/Qjs -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux on an xbox
haha yes, that would be correct. being the powerpc-linux bigot that i am, im suprised i blasphemed such things as saying an xbox has a ppc Dean -Original Message- From: Shane Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: SLUG [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, May 06, 2004 2:57 PM Subject: Re: [SLUG] Linux on an xbox Dean Hamstead wrote: i believe sony helped get linux going on playstation2, but youll need to google it. the xbox is a powerpc with an ati card. its biggest problem is that it doesnt have a hard disk (unlike ps2 and xbox) I'm guessing you mean't GameCube instead of xbox in reference to powerpc and ati card :) Here's a link for those who are interested : http://www.gc-linux.org/ Shane -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] spam filters not working
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jeff Waugh wrote: | quote who=James Gregory | |How can we get a spam filter to check for misspelt words and reject the |mail on that basis? | |I thought about this a while ago. It would be relatively easy to implement |-- just hook aspell into a procmail rule. I eventually came to two |conclusions: | |1. I would lose a lot of important (though difficult to read) mail this |way. |2. For any significant misspellings of words, bogofilter will already look |for them. | | | Mind you, having client-side scoring down of people who can't spell would be | a fantastic feature for spelling-fascists the world over. Tell you what: I'D | LIKE THIS FEATURE SO MUCH, I'D BUY THE COMPANY! english is a ridiculous language anyway. but restricting spam based on english spelling would be terrible for those of use who can speak more than one language. more so for those of us whos second (third and forth) languages arent a european or asian or middle eastern language. Dean -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFAmvA9I1HDX08lY+ARAkohAJ9Gx6I6oTlXTvn+FQYPbZ4rxI78pgCcDSx5 L2bV/r25O+6xH11B1o0IuN4= =9V/e -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux on an xbox
the xbox is basically just a pc. i believe its a celeron with an nvidia video card the interfaces are just usb with different plugs, ethernet card, ide with hard disks so throw a bunch of monkeys (or even better, hackers* with too much time) in a room with an xbox and some linux sources and sooner or later... viola xbox linux. remember that linux is also on playstation2 (could also be on one) dreamcast and xbox as is netbsd etc. i believe sony helped get linux going on playstation2, but youll need to google it. the xbox is a powerpc with an ati card. its biggest problem is that it doesnt have a hard disk (unlike ps2 and xbox) Dean * note the use of the word hackers used correctly in this email. -Original Message- From: Mary Gardiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Rick Welykochy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: SLUG [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, May 06, 2004 2:08 PM Subject: Re: [SLUG] Linux on an xbox On Thu, May 06, 2004, Rick Welykochy wrote: Pardon my ignorance, but why did MS deploy the Xbox using Linux instead of one of their own operating systems, perhaps Windows CE? They didn't. As I understand it, the xbox runs something much like the Win2K kernel. Since the xbox is largely known hardware with a custom bios, Linux is installable on it if you utilise various tricks. Is this a tacit admission by them that their own offerings are not up to scratch in the gaming dept? Evidently not. -Mary -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: FW: [SLUG] TPG modem recommendation
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 i would go out and just buy a little firewall. im using a netgear one. my set up is an alcatel bridge with a netgear firewall. the alcatel bridge connects ethernet to the phone line (bridging the ethernet over the dsl), then the firewall reeches down and does ppoe. mine does port forwarding etc (very handy). and has an inbuilt 4 port switch, which i then connect to 2 other switches and a wireless access point and from there to the nodes. the netgear device provides dhcp as well. im running a hadnfull of computers behind it, although it does have a maximum of 10 i think (not sure, my house isnt that bad yet). i like my setup because i just have two small devices hidden away in the top of my cupboard and they are both solid state. no noise, dont every turn them off. beautiful. just as some background im running an xp pro, xp home, win me, linux ppcx2 (one ibook - wireless and one imac - -hardwired), a freebsd machine and another compaq armada laptop running xppro with a $50 spirit 802.11b card from dse (shameless plug) homogenous =) the windows machines are for my sisters and parents. the macs are in my room (im in a bit of a ppc craze) with the freebsd machine and my brother has the two xp pro machines. my imac was running macos9 but i cleansed it. so this setup is very flexible. you should be able to check out a good range of options if you like the idea at yoru nearest dse superstore. Dean Phill O'Flynn (Bigpond) wrote: | I have to agree with glen, I have been down that road of mega | frustration trying to get a USB modem to run on Linux. Though, I see | that other people have had more success than me. | | I have used both the modems Glen suggested but have found DLink to be | less glitchy. They have built in firewall features (though basic) and | also a dhcp server. As I understand it (though someone with more | knowledge can correct me) that this type of firewall is more efficient | and secure. | | As one engineer once told me you don't get any prizes by finding the | hardest way to do something. | | Regards | | Phill O'Flynn | Muse-Tech | | | | --- | Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. | Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). | Version: 6.0.668 / Virus Database: 430 - Release Date: 24/04/2004 | | -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFAjnvgI1HDX08lY+ARAiivAKC7zIImZ/LVXkUcT7v80ksUBqHTqQCfckwC b+ECX2SccxyiAfa4mlM4TCk= =LuZK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] network sound daemons
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 can anyone recommend a good network sound daemon? ive had a play with esound but havent had much sucess when going over a network. by much i mean any. just doesnt seem to work. im looking at jack. does anyone have any experience that could recommend something? im just basically looking to play audio on my desktop but have it go through the network and out another machine basically i tried pointing esound clients to another machine running esd with tcp supposedly running. Dean -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFAhnj5I1HDX08lY+ARAr7pAKCDMKzogr0xsikJCYeyoY/1SZKrwACdEY4m YLYNY/ZJy+1gh63TcluonnU= =vC3O -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Small network Windows replacements
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Simon Bryan wrote: | Hi all, | I am helping a disability organisation I am associated with to setup a | small network of 10 Linux, three Windows and a Linux server. We can't | afford the needed hardware or the licences to go to XP and MS Office etc, | so we are looking at Linux alternatives. However it needs to maintain a | familiar Windows look and feel. I am looking for suggestions for the | following list of requirements. linux would be great for people with disabilities. Seeing as you can customize the heck out of it! | OS Lindows | Office APpsOpen Office and ABIWord you shouldnt have any problems with either, especially if your just typing and printing. | Email Yahoo Mail using Web Browser theres heaps of great email apps for linux. all of which arent vulnerable to outlook exploits!!! yahoo has the advantage of having builting up to date virus and spam checks. | Photo Manipulation GIMP | ACDSEE (IMage viewing and slideshows) ? look up gqview. its o for awesome. | Publisher (They like the templates)? i think openoffices word is capable of behaving like publisher. i really like publisher. its suprisingly good for a ms product. | PrinterHP2100 anything postscriptable would be best. i would recommend a network (or intelligent) printer. you can either buy a printer with the bits built in or you can buy a lil box that you can plug you normal printer into and get the same features. dick smiths should have something suitable. with network printers you can either connect directly or set up a queue on a convenient machine then get it to pass them along to the printer. | Plus we will need to connect Scanners, USB Digital Camera most digital cameras are just usb storage devices in linux just plug them in and mount /dev/sda1. ive had no problems on linuxi386 and linuxppc. slightly older cameras are supported through user space software i believe. although i have two of those old types around the house, we just use the canon which is alot better (its a usb storage device). ive had no problems with sony and canon cameras using usb-storage. | Any other suggestions or thoughts are welcome. | | I am setting up a Samba domain and would like to make it an AD look alike, is there really any need for AD? you can have network logins and map (i like the word import) directories and all that stuff without it. | I did read about this somewhere but am having trouble finding it again. samba.org? google.com? Dean -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFAhLKzI1HDX08lY+ARAnGnAKC4R92Q0nWUGStIjoJdmWArCtzgKQCaAodK kqvep4aO1gD2mf47vHOlh14= =O9F4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] virtual desktops in gnome
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 i finally got sufficiently pissed of with my imac and blew away macos9 and installed debian unstable. now as a normally devout fan of enlightenment, im quite enjoy having large virtual desktops and indeed, 2 or more virtual desktops indeed my ibook enjoys 2 virtual desktops each 2 screens wide. just for fun (and since i only use my imac as a glorified, tv-dvd combo anyway) i decided to let debian have mostly its own way and install gnome (i fought it valiently with dselect to hold off qt or anything beinging with a k). its quite nice and personally i think its about as user 'friendly' as windblows is these days. thats not an insult to gnome btw. anway, so i threw on a nice desktop. and there was much rejoicing. now i scrolled across on my virtual desktop, changed backgrounds and too my horror - all the backgrounds were the same. no probs ill just make a few virtual desktops h. well i gnome control panel doesnt give me any love. any gnome savy users out there... thats kind of a stupid question as for gnome version. look in unstable under us.debian.org Dean -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFAfjRII1HDX08lY+ARAuGVAJ9DX7j4hNPa1vaI1/1VAszFCXm5fgCeKMEr 1ujKqCnagrhFAGe2Bk6hqHE= =ZyyG -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] macosx binaries in linux powerpc
does anyone know if you can run macosx binaries in linux powerpc. ive googled it. but if someone has better google power. good =) Dean source isnt available otherwise i would use make ;) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux and Website
do to them what one does to Microsoft dont buy their products! seriously though, if they loose big chunks of business theyll soon tighten their belt. Dean Alexander Samad wrote: Hi I noticed there was some talk previously about St george and linux. I occasionally check out harris tech web site, seem like they have done some upgrade and now I can browse their site at all. What would you reccomend as the step to take to advise them of this, apart from the obvious email to webmaster. I presume I am not the only one having this problem Alex -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Linux (Debian Unstable Even) on Ibook (clamshell)
hey all, well its good to be back.if anyone even remembers me =) anyhoo, now im back in the country and back on the slug mailing list. im curious if anyone is running linux on an ibook (of the clamshell) variety. the reason i ask is because, being the little *nix nut that i am, am now doing so. now performance and stability is lightyears ahead of macos9 (which is what was loaded when i first got this little bad boy) not to mention actually having some usefull applications =) but im still having some niggling problems with drivers. for your avg jo linux they probably wouldnt be classified as problems. but im pedantic. so short of just sending me some google links, im curious if anyone can get me in contact with anyone whos running linux on ibook. or can put themselves in contact with me if they are running it. just as a plug clamshell ibooks are dirt cheap on ebay and really are classy. not to mention that x runs great, sound (alsa *grin*), usb firewire, airport card (built in 802.11b) all work great. i havent got the modem working but frankly i dont care. its getting the ati card to work in X but not through framebuffer. but they are cool. catch me sitting on the train watching dix's from the console through fb ;) Dean -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux (Debian Unstable Even) on Ibook (clamshell)
I do, just post questions to SLUG as usual. The internet wins again. just as a plug clamshell ibooks are dirt cheap on ebay and really are classy. not to mention that x runs great, sound (alsa *grin*), usb firewire, airport card (built in 802.11b) all work great. i havent got the modem working but frankly i dont care. its getting the ati card to work in X but not through framebuffer. You'll always be using the framebuffer device; X uses it for some features, even as it uses the rage128 directly. i tried using the ati driver for x, but it claims it cant find the bios. im not sure if thats the problem as the output in the logs isnt clear it does recognise the chipset. but basically im tried to get my video card to do some work (scaling). as in fb im under the impression that the cpu does all the work. but ultimatly im just lookinf for smoother mpg's/dvd/other-unmentioned-video-formats possibly at full screen. mplayer has been good thus far, but scaling in any app just destroys the experience. i dont know if youve played with it. also, any luck with getting the airport card to scan with iwlist i patch the driver but i seem to trade actually working as a network device for scanning for ap's. not that i have more than one, just that im pedantic. i would like to turn mouse clicking off on the touchpad, i have no idea where to configure that. i havent even worked out what bus the keyboard and touchpad are on (some mac special i assmue) Dean -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux (Debian Unstable Even) on Ibook (clamshell)
changing to the ati driver made life worth living. far out videos actually work really well now. i cant believe the stress my poor little cpu must have been under with the fb driver =\ If you use GNOME, install 'acme'. Otherwise, there's pbuttonsd and a few other GUI-ish ones for wmaker and so on. im a staunch Enlightenment fan. i try to keep as little gnome on my system as possible =) no offence to gnome fans. ill look into acme and see if i can get it going. You should be able to use it immediately with minicom. There's a driver for it which just makes the slightly odd serial interface work. does it just show up as ttyS0? i dont know if the driver is loaded or what. Dean -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux (Debian Unstable Even) on Ibook (clamshell)
does it just show up as ttyS0? i dont know if the driver is loaded or what. found it, macserial. works beautifully. Dean -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Yahoo Messanger
Ive got some blocking to do this afternoon, so im wondering if someone can tell me... What port does yahoo messanger run on? What port does msn messanger run on? Dean -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Yahoo Messanger
Thanks Dean Christopher Booth wrote: On Fri, 22 Feb 2002 13:44:57 +1100 Dean Hamstead [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ive got some blocking to do this afternoon, so im wondering if someone can tell me... What port does yahoo messanger run on? cs.yahoo.com port 5050 What port does msn messanger run on? I'm sorry I don't know They can use http proxy and connect through your proxy port though Dean -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information and may also be the subject of legal professional privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] ask perl(script for telnet)
can you telnet to the machine normally?
like not in perl?
Dean
henry wrote:
Dears :
I can telnet to host(linux802) by typing
telnet
linux802 ,
bilbo (uid) ,
baggins (pwd)
But when I apply telnet.pl as follows ,all I got is
Timeout for waiting , line 6
($telnet-login('bilbo', 'baggins'); )
Could some one give me hint to solve the problem?
use Net::Telnet;
$telnet = new Net::Telnet ( Timeout=20 ,
Errmode='die' ,
Prompt = '/bash\$ $/');
$telnet-open('linux802'); #host
$telnet-login('bilbo', 'baggins');#uidpwd
BestRegards
Henry
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Re: [SLUG] What have I forgotten, steeing up virtual Apache server
check that your webserver can resolve the hostname for that virtual server to an address that is on your server check that your config is correct (looking for obvious visual errors, checking against prior virtual host entries and by running /usr/local/apache/bin/apachectl configtest) if you have added a new ip address for the new host you may need to add a new NameVirtualHost x.x.x.x line try killing or /usr/local/apache/bin/apachectl stop then restarting apache (/usr/local/apache/bin/apachectl start) restart or HUP'ing will frequently fail to produce error messages. Dean Peter Vogel wrote: Running Linux 6.1 and I have minimal knowledge - I am running Apache with a number of virtual domains. I have just added a new one and when I try to browse it locally I get what looks like my domain's default site (different IP address). I can ping the server okay. I have set up a virtual server entry in httpd.conf and done httpd restart What might I have forgotten to do? The domain is www.axisofevil.info -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] perl quicky
does perl have a function to return the length of a string? eg $length = size($foo); Dean -- -- -- ME: http://dean.bong.com.auICQ: 16867613 [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Failing pop3 login
if no one has answered details about your MTA (aka qmail, sendmail, exim etc) and your pop daemon will be helpful there may be a lockfile in addition to permissions problems Dean Shannon wrote: Hi people, I nedd a little help. I am trying to get my pop3 server back up and running here at home, after it decided to die today. However I am getting a failing error on login. I have looked through my logs and am getting Error opening or locking INBOX user= I am assuming this is a permissions problem but I am not sure exactly what the permission need to be on the mail spool files. 777? 477? 4777? any help would be great. - Shannon -- -- -- ME: http://dean.bong.com.auICQ: 16867613 [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Getting a USB controller recognised
i find its usually worth compiling in the usb controller but since your using out of the box, have you run depmod -a then tried modprobe usb-uhci ? Dean Howard Lowndes wrote: I have just put a PCI USB controller card into a box and kudzu can find it and has logged it in its database. How do I now get the correct entries into /etc/modules.conf? I looked on another box and found alias usb-controller usb-uhci but when I try to modprobe usb-uhci on this box it conplains that it can't find the module, even though it exists in /lib/modules/2.4.2-2/kernel/drivers/usb -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Getting a USB controller recognised
sure its a uhci usb controller? Dean Howard Lowndes wrote: Yep, done that, then did modprobe usb-uhci and got: /lib/modules/2.4.2-2/kernel/drivers/usb/usb-uhci.o: init_module: No such device /lib/modules/2.4.2-2/kernel/drivers/usb/usb-uhci.o: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.2-2/kernel/drivers/usb/usb-uhci.o failed /lib/modules/2.4.2-2/kernel/drivers/usb/usb-uhci.o: insmod usb-uhci failed Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters but the beast is certainly there: total 591 -rw-r--r--1 root root 8928 Apr 9 2001 acm.o -rw-r--r--1 root root46956 Apr 9 2001 audio.o -rw-r--r--1 root root18584 Apr 9 2001 bluetooth.o -rw-r--r--1 root root37948 Apr 9 2001 dabusb.o -rw-r--r--1 root root 6204 Apr 9 2001 dc2xx.o -rw-r--r--1 root root 6392 Apr 9 2001 dsbr100.o -rw-r--r--1 root root15916 Apr 9 2001 hid.o -rw-r--r--1 root root27464 Apr 9 2001 hp5300.o -rw-r--r--1 root root44040 Apr 9 2001 ibmcam.o -rw-r--r--1 root root11632 Apr 9 2001 mdc800.o -rw-r--r--1 root root 9092 Apr 9 2001 microtek.o -rw-r--r--1 root root53148 Apr 9 2001 ov511.o -rw-r--r--1 root root14308 Apr 9 2001 pegasus.o -rw-r--r--1 root root 9248 Apr 9 2001 plusb.o -rw-r--r--1 root root 8184 Apr 9 2001 printer.o -rw-r--r--1 root root 7764 Apr 9 2001 rio500.o -rw-r--r--1 root root 9716 Apr 9 2001 scanner.o drwxr-xr-x2 root root 1024 Jul 1 2001 serial drwxr-xr-x2 root root 1024 Jul 1 2001 storage -rw-r--r--1 root root31168 Apr 9 2001 uhci.o -rw-r--r--1 root root12192 Apr 9 2001 ultracam.o -rw-r--r--1 root root76307 Apr 9 2001 usbcore.o -rw-r--r--1 root root 5464 Apr 9 2001 usbkbd.o -rw-r--r--1 root root15820 Apr 9 2001 usbnet.o -rw-r--r--1 root root24264 Apr 9 2001 usb-ohci.o -rw-r--r--1 root root27776 Apr 9 2001 usb-uhci.o -rw-r--r--1 root root31888 Apr 9 2001 usbvideo.o -rw-r--r--1 root root 8544 Apr 9 2001 uss720.o -rw-r--r--1 root root 5808 Apr 9 2001 wacom.o GV suggested I insmod usbcore which I have done and that is installed OK. On Fri, 18 Jan 2002, Dean Hamstead wrote: i find its usually worth compiling in the usb controller but since your using out of the box, have you run depmod -a then tried modprobe usb-uhci ? Dean Howard Lowndes wrote: I have just put a PCI USB controller card into a box and kudzu can find it and has logged it in its database. How do I now get the correct entries into /etc/modules.conf? I looked on another box and found alias usb-controller usb-uhci but when I try to modprobe usb-uhci on this box it conplains that it can't find the module, even though it exists in /lib/modules/2.4.2-2/kernel/drivers/usb -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Sydney Wireless Mailing List up
this isnt mine but http://www.sydneywireless.com/ nothing like reinventing the wheel ;) Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For all of you who may be interested in wireless networking in Sydney, this is just a quick message to inform people that the Sydney Wireless Mailing List is now up. The subscription page can be reached at: http://sydney.air.net.au/mailman/listinfo/syd-wireless --Jon Teh - Sydney Wireless Network -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] An impossible X11 dream?
copy and paste are catered for nicely by your middle mouse button which imo is much more eligant than select-ctrlc-click-ctrlp i can only begin to express my frustration when i try the same in windows ;) Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the many things I have on my list of `Things To Have A Go At One Day', is to read carefully through the X manuals and see if there's a way to provide keyboard shortcuts (like Alt-X, Alt-C, Alt-V) as keyboard shortcuts for Cut, Copy, Paste. Is that an impossible dream? luke -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] An impossible X11 dream?
as i mentioned select the text then middle click into your target text widget never leave home without it Dean Chris Barnes wrote: Your right they do implement cut and paste, but it still bugs me that if I was to cut or copy something from Licq, I cant paste it into Mozilla That goes with a lot of apps I use in gnome or kde...the clipboard isn't properly shared among all apps. -- -Original Message- From: Ken Foskey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, 14 January 2002 11:23 PM To: slug Subject: Re: [SLUG] An impossible X11 dream? On Mon, 2002-01-14 at 22:49, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the many things I have on my list of `Things To Have A Go At One Day', is to read carefully through the X manuals and see if there's a way to provide keyboard shortcuts (like Alt-X, Alt-C, Alt-V) as keyboard shortcuts for Cut, Copy, Paste. gnome and kde actually implement the cut and paste buffer properly. Keystrokes do vary a little though. KenF -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Enlightenment Themes
themes.org seems to have merged into one archive and in the process dropped all its old content Dean Daniel Harper wrote: I have found that site to be very confusing, and lacking in any worthwhile content, except a couple of themes -Original Message- From: Dane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 15 January 2002 1:23 PM To: Daniel Harper Cc: SLUG Subject: Re: [SLUG] Enlightenment Themes http://e.themes.org is generally a good place to start. You should find both docs and resources there. -Dane On 0, Daniel Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone out there had any experience writing Enlightenment themes?? Know of any docs or resources? Regards, Daniel Harper UMR Research Australia Marketing and Issues Management Consultants Level 1, Suite 105, 332-342 Oxford Street, Bondi Junction, New South Wales, 2022. Australia Phone: 02 9386 1622 Fax: 02 9386 1633 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Mozilla Spell Check
spell check isnt in yet, you can read about it on mozilla.org Dean Paul Copeland wrote: Hi All, The other night I downloaded Mozilla 0.9.7. I went for the typical install with just Navigator, Mail and News. I have found, however, that there does not seem to be a spell checker for out going e-mails. Is this the case for the typical installation? Have I done something wrong? Regards Paul Copeland -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] limit apaches bandwidth usage
mod_throttle mod_bandwidth http://modules.apache.org lists a good many modules you can also build apache with modules in a nice scripted (lazy) fashion by using apache toolbox http://www.apachetoolbox.com i recommend it Dean George Vieira wrote: I don't think apache can do it *george looks up apache site*... if anything you might be able to rig squi to use delay pools and proxy it into the apache server... don't ask how but it's a thought thanks, George Vieira Systems Manager Citadel Computer Systems P/L -Original Message- From: Doug Stalker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 19 December 2001 10:53 PM To: Slug Subject: [SLUG] limit apaches bandwidth usage How can I limit Apaches bandwidth use? I have a 256 kbps outgoing connection with Telstra ADSL (when it works...) and would like to limit apache to using only 192kbps, so that I can still use systems inside the network when my web-site is being hit. - Doug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Virus attacks on Linux
this is really a slug-chat sort of post im sure jeff can clarify Dean Internet User wrote: Of course we will see more and more attacks on Windows, but Linux will be a target because its use is becoming more widespread, said Raimond Genes, European president for antivirus at Trend Micro. It is a stable OS, but it's not a secure OS. Jack Clarke, European product manager at McAfee, said: In fact it's probably easier to write a virus for Linux because it's open source and the code is available. So we will be seeing more Linux viruses as the OS becomes more common and popular. One has to speculate who is actually writing these virii... when I think about it too I could set up my own anti virus software company and scribble out a few virii to keep myself employed from now until eternity..., just issue a new variant when the cash at bank runs low. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] ADSL Monitor
i use a little app called 'xnetload' which gives a running graph of in and out data on a given interface... in this case ppp0 not anything amazing or anything, but suits me. Dean George Vieira wrote: All I have is a simple pppstats command monitoring transfer rates and logging to a file. This then is read by a CGI on a webpage showing graphs over a time line... but I'd like something better.. thanks, George Vieira Systems Manager Citadel Computer Systems P/L -Original Message- From: Edwin Humphries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 5 December 2001 9:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] ADSL Monitor G'day, Does anyone know of a KDE-suitable (with version for KDE 1) monitor for ADSL connection performance? I've just connected our RH6.2 server to Telstra's ADSL service, and would like to be able to log any disconnections, error messages, connection speeds, etc. -- -- -- ME: http://dean.bong.com.auICQ: 16867613 [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] XMMS
alsa broke horribly on 2.4.16, so i venture to think similarly for xmms. alsa works fine too :). alsa-0.9-beta7. perhaps try upgrading your ALSA version? 0.5.12a which is for 2.4.16, and i tried removing the libAALSA output plugin to no avail Dean -- -- -- ME: http://dean.bong.com.auICQ: 16867613 [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] XMMS
has anyone built xmms 1.2.5 on kernel 2.4.16? having just done so, i am now being presented with unsolvable segfaults. which is most od (and annoying) seeing 1.2.4 was workig just fine, however built on a prior kernel version (2.4.4.. something like that) alsa broke horribly on 2.4.16, so i venture to think similarly for xmms. anyone? ive tried removing plugins etc, to no avail =( Dean -- -- -- ME: http://dean.bong.com.auICQ: 16867613 [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Telstra ADSL - Quick Query
They do not use PPP authentication - no client software is required - just hook your ethernet card straight up to the modem, and set up your static IP. Its worth noting that ADSL+router just bridges the ethernet. Hence why its more an ADSL router than an ADSL modem.. infact, wouldnt the Digital in ADSL rule out being a modulate demodulate? slug-chat anyone? You can run static IP's or dhcp or whatever hits the spot for you. telstra has just opted for pppoe. which imo isnt a bad decision and they have implemented it nicely. ok sure the network sucks but you can connect with any pppoe client, no windows funny business etc. wow something not bad about telstra. Dean -- -- -- ME: http://dean.bong.com.auICQ: 16867613 [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Telstra ADSL - Quick Query
Just use the scripts from roaring penguin usernames are 'username@bigpond' that caused 5 seconds of grief ;) rebecca (insert name here) claims on her lil page that she needed to drop the MTU in her internal network. i havent had this problem and nor has my friend who also runs dsl via linux (a good use for a sparc classic). i believe a gateway (firewall) does the job of converting MTU between interfaces. the tech who set up dsl was only too happy to just install the router, hand over the usb nic (you know you wana play with one) and leave. I wasnt letting him near my parents windoze pc! personally, i plug my router straight into my switch. All my pcs are then connected to the switch and behave in a normal tcpip network kind of way. my pc then connects to the pppoe service through its single NIC and still remains on the normal tcpip network. I can then use iptables or chains or whatever floats my boat at the time, to let others through onto the net. If my pc is off, my parents need only turn on the switch and use the bigpond windoze client and connect normally, whilst still maintaining access to other machines and services on the network. the smc usb nic works quite nicely in linux. after i plugged it in and observed it working i promptly got over the novelty and put it aside for my trusty netgear 10/100 nic ;) gadgets are cool though ;) Dean Steven Kerr wrote: Good morning all. Is there a 'Telstra BigPondDirect - ADSL' Linux Howto type document that will ease me into this wonderful service offering of Telstra ? Steve Kerr __ Get your free Australian email account at http://www.start.com.au -- -- -- ME: http://dean.bong.com.auICQ: 16867613 [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: Funky USB hardware (Was: [SLUG] dead video?
logitech quickcam express's cost like $100 (sometimes like $80 in bigw, but are available from all your big chains stores like tricky dickies, hardly normal etc) and work quite well in linux. youll need the driver and usb support (on linux-usb.org) im running 0.4b on 2.4.11 quite nicely with xawtv 3.46 (the latest wont build for me... od eh?) http://www.bong.com.au/zortcam/ for my sometimes on webcam. Dean Peter Hardy wrote: On Mon, 2001-11-26 at 08:38, Fox, Michael wrote: model of camera? phillips what? Oh, it's a Vesta (PCVC675). The driver supports most models, check out http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam for details, and the binary-only decompressor module. Sample output at http://ppp50.adsl88.pacific.net.au/~peter/camstream.png Cheers, -- -- -- ME: http://dean.bong.com.auICQ: 16867613 [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: Funky USB hardware (Was: [SLUG] dead video?
there are alot of apps in the xawtv package including webcam which is a cli program and fbtv which puts video streams to fb rather than x just get usb going compile the driver and install it plug in the cam insmod mod_quickcam then go for your life if you use webcam you need to set the width and height to one of its two resolutions anything else will not generate a desirable image its worth running xawtv first, before starting webcam, so that the camera has time to adjust to the lighting conditions Dean Fox, Michael wrote: So I have hope yet, maybe I should try and get mine to work before I end up selling it. Any other tips :) or should I just follow the driver info on the relevant pages. Be nice if one didn't need X and could just use a cli interface for capturing pics. logitech quickcam express's cost like $100 (sometimes like $80 in bigw, but are available from all your big chains stores like tricky dickies, hardly normal etc) and work quite well in linux. youll need the driver and usb support (on linux-usb.org) im running 0.4b on 2.4.11 quite nicely with xawtv 3.46 (the latest wont build for me... od eh?) http://www.bong.com.au/zortcam/ for my sometimes on webcam. Dean Peter Hardy wrote: On Mon, 2001-11-26 at 08:38, Fox, Michael wrote: model of camera? phillips what? Oh, it's a Vesta (PCVC675). The driver supports most models, check out http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam for details, and the binary-only decompressor module. Sample output at http://ppp50.adsl88.pacific.net.au/~peter/camstream.png Cheers, -- -- -- ME: http://dean.bong.com.auICQ: 16867613 [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] OT: University
Gaining a degree (say an engineering degree) gives you a good solid base for changing careers later in the future. Going to uni is also a good place to a) be a bum student (because everyone has to have there turn once) b) meet people (many a man has met his wife at uni, not to mention the friends youll make generally) c) when you get into uni youll find out about all sort of other neat careers you can get into. (eg im in BOE (comp) atm, and BOE (biomedical) looks damn appealing and would be maybe a few years extra to get in addition if UWS goes with it) Although i think alot of people get a degree and use maybe 1/10 of all they learnt. But this is a paper world (was) and having said piece of paper stands for something. I think uni (well engineering) also builds character (as cheesey and calvin and hobbes as that sounds) but youll learn all sorts of neat stuff or fail =) I mean, i cant believe maxwells equations arent taunt in high school ;) Dean Jason Rennie wrote: Why go to uni - because PHB/clueless idiots are largely in charge of recruitment and being unable to evaluate resumes, they believe the gumf the anyone with a degree can do it - so they specify a degree as a requirement. That is the sole general reason. However, other positions do require some indepth knowledge and having a degree can save you 10 years of experience. Is it worth noting that at uni you'll also get to do things like operating system design and compiler design etc ? These are interesting courses (well one was and the other looks it) and i'm not sure, short of reading a bunch of textbooks on your own time, where else you pick this sort of stuff up. Jason -- -- -- ME: http://dean.bong.com.auICQ: 16867613 [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: Funky USB hardware (Was: [SLUG] dead video?
If you wana use usb peripherals beyond HID's then i think 2.4 is a must Actually i really think if your not running 2.4 yet you should consider it. Although if its not broke, dont waste your time fixing it ;) Dean Simon Wong wrote: On Thu, 2001-11-22 at 14:47, Tony Green wrote: I've had a couple of web cams etc working too. Linux USB support is starting to seriously rock! Sorry, missed the start of this discussion... Are you running a 2.2 or 2.4 kernel? -- -- -- ME: http://dean.bong.com.auICQ: 16867613 [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] dead video?
Firewire and USB make the forementioned rebooting for hardware changes a thing of the past. Although video cards etc... Hot pluggable ram would go down very nicely, someone care to invent / implement it on the x86 platform? (Ok sure you could change printers and mice etc before.) This is slug-chat material i think. Unless anyone knows any really neat usb/firewire hardware that works in linux. Dean David wrote: Since you mentioned it.. [david@fast david]$ uptime 11:10am up 153 days, 21:32 However, there can be OTHER reasons than impressing NT users for not wanting to reboot. On Thu, 22 Nov 2001, Fox, Michael wrote: Damien sketched into the sand.. what some people will do for an uptime ;-) Hehe yeah, I grow out of that a while ago now. If I must reboot box to install hardware then it must be done. It can always start again. But hey, its hard bringing yourself to boot a machine with 100+ days uptime. It rather impresses your windows pals :) - Michael Fox -- -- -- ME: http://dean.bong.com.auICQ: 16867613 [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Multiple NICS under Linux
Also afaik there're problems with the NetGear FA311s with 2.4.x ? and people have suggested use of FA310s instead. Is this true ? Get Intel EtherExpress cards or Tulips (chipset, not brand). Netgear 10/100's work well in linux. What's the difference between OEM and Retail pricing ? You don't get pretty manuals, and seldom disks. ...which are usually totally useless in linux and youll just toss them in the recycling anyway. Dean -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Multiple NICS under Linux
George Vieira wrote: I'm running 2 Realtek 8029 and 1 Tulip card and worked great in the old P100 system and when moved to the new system I had problems with 1 of the 8029 cards having weird conflicts. Probably just an irq conflict or maybe shared pci/isa slot blues. Though I would still use them anyway, I've heard people make comments about Realtek cards being bad but I've never had problems until now (and it's probbly because I'm using the same HDD from the old machine moved to the new one.. so you'd expect some trouble) For thr $10-15 youll pay for a Realtek card youll get a connection to an ethernet network. The calibre of the connection is almost totally random but is generally very average. Although the 8029as (the 10mb pci card) isnt a bad little 10 meg card. I would recommend it for anyone who just wants to get some print or internet sharing going. Its big brother the 8139 (10/100mb) is pretty below standard. Ive only seen transfers of 1.5mb/sec (8139-8139 and 8139-various), on most other cards and combinations ive seen speeds approaching the theoretical max of a 100mb segment (6 or 7 mb/sec is what i consider normal). The only cards ive had more problems with than realteks are dlinks. That said they work ok when they are working, eg normal transfers etc. im running alot of netgear fx310 (something like that) which are tulip based, then new 311 card use a different chip which is supported in the kernel but i dont know if your dists standard kernel ships with it compiled. Dean -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] OT: University
I attend UWS, if you live out this way i think its a waste of time to go to a city uni. Do engineering over comp science. I know in my elec/mech/comp engineering there is a feeling of comp sci being a bludgy degree. Dean Rich Buggy wrote: Hi Matt, Currently i'm looking at UTS, Sydney and UNSW but am wondering how these differ from universities such as Macquarie and UWS and why these may be discouraged ? I wouldn't discourage anyone going to club mac (aka Macquarie). I have a degree from there and had a great time getting it. The one advantage that Macquarie has over the rest is the flexible program. My understanding with your 3 preferred universities is that you have to do a fixed program. You might get a choice like chemistry or physics but that's it. At Macquarie you have to get a major at 3rd year and meet the requirements of your degree but you choose the courses you do. This allows you to do stuff like languages, music, psychology, ... as part of your degree. It also means you can do the computing subjects that interest you to complete the major. I don't know if UTS still makes you do a years work experience as part of the their degree but that always turns me off them (personal preference - please don't flame). I had a friend their who's (non-computing) degree was delayed by 12 months because he couldn't get relative work experience. Rich PS: The name club mac comes from the number of holidays we appeared to get. I suspect this had a lot to do with a smaller exam period because of lower student numbers. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Why the different platforms
i can get from here to here by going --- | or by going | --- both perfectly solve the problem, and yet like a glass of water, people will rally behind if its hall full or empty. Dean Rick Welykochy wrote: Minh Van Le wrote: Why all the platforms ? - AIX, HP-UX, IRIX, Alpha/Sparc/Sun. Is it a greedy vendor thing, or are there hardware advantages or something. capitalism and the free market system _ Rick Welykochy || Praxis Services Pty Limited Yes means No and No means Yes. Delete all files [Y]? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- f u cn rd ths, u cn gt a gd jb n cmptr prgrmmng. -- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] BONG LANS: http://www.bong.com.au ICQ: 16867613 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] bbstats 0.21
has anyone got a copy of the source for bbstats 0.21? the proper site for it according to freshmeat is gone *weep* Dean -- As we enjoy great advantages from inventions of others, we should be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours; and this we should do freely and generously. - Benjamin Franklin -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Hotplug and cached Disk writes
Is there a setting to change the amount of cache? of cache per filesystem? even the life of a cache before it syncs? all of which set to zero or another minimalistic value would serve to push data to the fs on the fly Dean Steve Downing wrote: From the wouldn't it be cool if Department: Is it possible to tell the kernel NOT to cache disk writes to a certain mounted filesystem. Then if that mount suddenly dissappears, everything has been already written. i.e 1. Using hotplug I plug in a small USB key flash-memory filesystem. 2. Hotplug then insert the right kernel modules and mounts the flash- memory filesystem in the desired spot. 3. Copy/delete/move files onto or off the flash-memory. (NOTE: It all works up to here.) 4. Pause to allow files to be written WITHOUT kernel caching the write. 5. Unceremoniously Pull out the USB key. Hotplug realises and unmounts filesystem and rmmods the unused modules. Step 5 is the killer. I'm not sure it's even sane without risking the obvious possible disk corruption. a) I'm not sure hotplug can do the unmounting, it doesn't seem to have a pre/post-removal thing. b) Win98 doesn't seem handle it properly, so why should I expect Linux to. FWIW Kernel 2.4.3, Hotplug 0.0.20010919 out of Debian unstable, Modutils 2.4.6. Is anyone else trying something like this? Steve -- The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not Eureka! but That's funny...' - Isaac Asimov -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- f u cn rd ths, u cn gt a gd jb n cmptr prgrmmng. -- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] BONG LANS: http://www.bong.com.au ICQ: 16867613 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] a pop keep on server mail client
Im a big fan of netscape and now mozilla mail flame me, but i like it Dean Craige McWhirter wrote: Thus spake Grant Street, on Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 02:30:08PM +1000: Hello all I am fairly new to using linux for peronal email stuff but: I have a laptop(low powered) that I want to access my my mail from the ISP's pop3 server but leave it there so that It can be downloaded on to the main workstation(windose :-( ). But also be able to send some mail as well. I know in netscape you used to be able to set Keep on Server but I don't want to download it if it does not have it. Or should I use fetchmail + balsa etc instead. Fetchmail would be my tool of choice (does what you have outlined above). You can then choose any MUA you like. that may or may not be Balsa. -- As we enjoy great advantages from inventions of others, we should be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours; and this we should do freely and generously. - Benjamin Franklin -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Perl-cgi frustrations
H1Software error:/H1 PRECan't locate LWP/Simple.pm in @INC (@INC contains: ^^^ perl -MCPAN -e install LWP::Simple make sure your on the net Dean -- EMAIL... [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] BONG LANS: http://www.bong.com.au ICQ: 16867613 -- Imagine working in a secure environment and finding the string _NSAKEY in the OS binaries without a good explanation -Alan Cox 04/05/2001 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Telstra Outages
No bitching but seeing telstra was out today (adsl for 7 hours) id like to encourage people to get the value of that period credited to next month. for adsl this is only about $1 ( $100*7/(24*30) ) however thats $1 that your basically giving to them $1 that could buy you some nice refreshing coke. remembering that if all customers hit them up for that $1, it would be 10,000's of dollars. something that may even inspire them to provide a product half as good as they say it might be. Dean -- EMAIL... [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] BONG LANS: http://www.bong.com.au ICQ: 16867613 -- Imagine working in a secure environment and finding the string _NSAKEY in the OS binaries without a good explanation -Alan Cox 04/05/2001 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] keeping track of ip;s
you could whip up a quick ms access 'database', or just use the mysql cli ;) but seriously http://www.wesmo.com/~rwest/MID/ looks good Dean wal wrote: Hi, can anyone suggest a utility or what options do i have if i would to keep track of network addresses assigned to sites for an organization Sometihng that will allow me to keep track of WAN net address LAN addresses server/switch/router addresses within LAN/WAN Is there some opensource application for this? Any suggestions/pointers would be appreciated. Regards../ wal -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] PCMCIA 10/100 card tuning?
Check your duplex setting, seeing as you have a dumb hub you might need to force 10mbps/half-duplex Your symptoms sound like your at full duplex. Dean Rachel Polanskis wrote: Hi sluggers, I've managed to get myself a groovy little notebook running SuSE 7.1 on it. I went and bought a 10/100 PC card interface for it and even though I couldn't find any consumer/tech info about the interface online, it worked with Linux straight out of the box. Probably something to do with the box saying it supported Linux, which was pretty cool ;) Anyway, the card does work well, but seems to choke on certain activities such as when I connect using Knews to my private newsserver and also on ftp downloads. When I am using the Web or ssh, the choke is not so noticable but I do feel it when getting news or doing file transfers. A 2Mb file that takes a few seconds on my workstation takes a couple of minutes on the notebook, for eg... My private LAN is just 10Mb ethernet connected to a dumb hub. The news and FTP servers are on this same LAN. I notice with the PC Card I get a lot of collisions which I do not get on my Suns ;) What I am asking is for some help sorting out my network tuning. I know where to do this on a Sun but on Linux it's not so obvious. I read the PCMCIA HowTo and the Ethernet HowTo, but seem to be missing something about how to actually tune my interface to it's best potential. Although the interface is 100Mb capable, I am not using this functionality (as mentioned) but it seems I'm not getting the best performance I could, even at 10Mb. If it helps, the Interface is called a MobileConnect FE16-TX 10/100 adaptor. It is supposedly a DLink clone and is emulating an NE2000 at first guess. I could find zero info about this interface by Googling, but only found a few near misses... The notebook is a HP Omnibook 800CT, so it has plenty of Linux support and CPU power to match the Interface. Thanks! rachel -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] PCMCIA 10/100 card tuning?
append options to the kernel or to the module ;) Look in the kernel source ;) Dean Rachel Polanskis wrote: On Mon, 25 Jun 2001, Dean Hamstead wrote: Check your duplex setting, seeing as you have a dumb hub you might need to force 10mbps/half-duplex Your symptoms sound like your at full duplex. Yes - that's what I suspect too, but I do not know where the change is made! -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Amanda Onstream Tapetype Definition
Has anyone got an Amanda OnStream ADR50 Tapetype defintion for amanda? Could you please email it to me. Thanks! Dean -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Notification of Internet Violations
Is this a joke??? Dean Net Authority Investigations wrote: Dear slug, It has recently been brought to our attention that you are, or have been, in violation of the Net Authority Acceptable Internet Usage Guidelines. It has been reported that you distribute offensive materials over the Internet. Net Authority has investigated these claims and verified that they are true. As a result, your personal information has been added to one or more Net Authority Internet offender databases. Your information will be stored in the databases until enough evidence has been gathered against you to warrant further actions. To help avoid such a situation, it is strongly recommended that you cease your immoral actions on the Internet at once. You have been added to the following databases: - Hate Literature Offenders - General Blasphemy Offenders If you would like more information about Net Authority or the Net Authority Acceptable Internet Usage Guidelines, you may read the details at http://www.netauthority.org/. It is imperative that you fully understand the guidelines if you wish to avoid further prosecution. May God be with you as you struggle to overcome these evil impulses. You will be in our prayers at night. God speed, Net Authority Investigations Department [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.netauthority.org/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Multiple Mice in X
Morning, Does anyone have multiple mice set up in X 4.x? If so would you care to fwd the relevant entries in the config file Ive a PS/2 and a USB mouse and i would like to use two. Not two cursors (that would be neat though) but the normal multiple influences type of arrangement. Kernel does multiple USB mice for you, but alas, not ps2 as well (maybe some one could send a patch to add ps2 mouse to the mice device) Thanks in advance Dean -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] IPChains and net gaming
Runs fine with just ipchains -P forward DENY /sbin/ipchains -A forward -s 172.29.0.0/16 -d 0.0.0.0/0 -j MASQ even for multiple machines, i wouldnt recommend just those rules unless you have a tight ship. if you want to server you should only need to port map and you should be ok. You wont be visible to broadcasts though, and you might have problems with banning ips Dean ps .i use 172.29.0.0/16 for my local ips, so youll need to change that accordingly Crossfire wrote: Peter McCarthy was once rumoured to have said: Howdy all I have a problem now that I have placed my Win box behind my IP Masq-ing Linx box, that being I can no longer play Team Fortress Classic !! Now I expect it is just a matter of enabling some ports for IP Masq to support it ? Is this correct ? If so what needs to be done and how do I determine what ports TFC needs ?? Halflife uses high-port UDP. This works fine through pretty much any NAT/Masq system for playing. I wouldn't count on being able to serve though. (You probably can with enough hackery, but I advise against it). We have Counterstrike buffs at my old workplace, and they used to play it though our Cisco NAT (which is pretty unintelligent). You shouldn't have any problems making it work with a linux masq/nat. Just make sure you're permitting in UDP for `established connections', and all should be happy. C. -- --==-- Crossfire | This email was brought to you [EMAIL PROTECTED] | on 100% Recycled Electrons --==-- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- EMAIL... [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] BONG LANS: http://www.bong.com.au ICQ: 16867613 -- Imagine working in a secure environment and finding the string _NSAKEY in the OS binaries without a good explanation -Alan Cox 04/05/2001 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Just Another ISP Question
yes, fine its just normal ppp advice:- set up like any other provider Dean Tiwari, Rajnish wrote: Dear Folks, Has anyone attempted to use dingoblue internet access with Linux ? Success or failure ? Any advice/suggestions/recommendations on dingoblue and linux is most welcome. Thanks in advance. Regards, Rajnish -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- EMAIL... [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] BONG LANS: http://www.bong.com.au ICQ: 16867613 -- Imagine working in a secure environment and finding the string _NSAKEY in the OS binaries without a good explanation -Alan Cox 04/05/2001 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Getting a bt878 to work with xawtv
Most tv capture cards need a really strong signal. They have virtually no ability to amplify or filter whats coming down the line. Can i recommend that if you are in a poor location (like me), you take a trip to tricky dickies or jaycar (etc) and buy some signal boosting and filtering gear. If you have a weak signal then a booster will only make the fuzz stronger with the signal! Boosters are used when you have alot of devices and a good to start with! If you have any really fiddly problems i might be able to help out having tested the v3tv drivers since the first release (man was that fun to get going.. and crash) and now playing around with the quickcam express drivers (almost as much fun *grin*) My lastest trick was getting an mpeg decoder running in linux ;) There is *alot* of info on tv tuners/capture devices in linux, the great part is brooktree chips are basically universaly on all elcheapo capture cards and they are open spec!. Test with svideo or composite input plugged into your dvd, vcr or mpeg decoder output. A test pattern generator would be an expensive but similarly effective way to test your cards capturing. If your using alsa sound drivers for your video card and you plan to use oss emulation then ive found you need to run a oss mixer program before loading the v4l drivers in. Otherwise the oss emulation doesnt seem to jump in and grab slot 0, then when you bt card is enabled it grabs slot 0 and your emulation is left dazed and confused. If you forget alsa mixers still work fine on the sound card. I hope that made sense. X4 can also look after your capture card with the v4l module, i noticed a slight improvement in the behaviour of my viewing window with this on. You need a new version of xawtv to handle it. Well thats me off on a tangent ;) Dean Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Mehmet Ozdemir I just got a Pixel View bt878 tv/fm tuner yesterday for $40.00 (bargin!!) and I'm trying to get it to work. That's funny, there must have been quite a few SLUGgers at the Rocks Markets this weekend - all finding BT8x8 cards! ;) I've read thru the slug archives w/o success. (When I got mine, there was a wealth of knowledge in posts from Grahame Kelly and co.) I think everything set right but I just get static (i'm using rabbit ears atm, but will hook the real antenna tonight) Just for the record, you *have* to have an antenna of some sort plugged in, or it won't work at all. Can somebody send me there modules.conf and .xawtv file. I'm using xawtv 3.51 and the bttv driver that come stock with rh7.1. Check out: * /usr/src/linux/Documentation/video4linux/bttv/CARDLIST * Try 37 and 38, and tuner=7 * Have a peek at my xawtv file at: http://perkypants.org/misc/xawtv :) - Jeff -- Evil will always triumph over good, because good is dumb. - Dark Helmet, Spaceballs -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- BONG: http://www.bong.com.au EMAIL... [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 16867613 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] USB Modems.
Assuming that your modem is supported then you will most likely need to update your kernel. Id be suprised if updated kernels arent available as RPMS but compiling is easy enough even for a newbie. Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings. I am quite new to this group but I am committed to operating in a Microsoft free environment. I just have a few problems. This is my system: AMD 333mhz, 256Mb ram, 2 X 13gig hdd, CDROM, CDRW, USB modem, USB FM radio, PCI TV Capture card, Cordless mouse, USB web cam, HP Jornada 420 PDA, TNT2 pro, Creative 64 sound, 100+ Base eathernet card, 8 port 100+ hub, USB hub, 100 Mb zip drive, TD800 Tape drive, and a comms connection to my 600va UPS. I think that I covered it all. Can I some how use my USB devices through Linux (Red Hat 7.1?) I really need my modem and my zip drive working. I did find out how to get the zip drive working...but misplaced the printout. Can anyone please help me to get my USB modem working. It's an Acer 56 USB. Thanks. James -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- BONG: http://www.bong.com.au EMAIL... [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 16867613 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Which USB modem?
I would go with a brand name usb modem. Thats probably your best bet (look on linux-usb.org), a banksia or netcomm would probably be recognised. You will also wana check what drivers do what, as i have found with usb in 2.4 it doesnt always recognise compatable hardware. (the smc usb ethernet i got with my adsl, or my quickcam express both are unrecognised but work fine with a lil ismod ing) Dean Peter Hardy wrote: ...and then Steve Kowalik said: On Sun, Jun 03, 2001 at 01:17:07PM +1000, Jordan uttered: What USB modem can I buy that will work with Linux? I gather it must be ACM compliant? But, how to find one? The easier it is to setup, the better! Assume latest kernel, etc. Best place to look would be http://www.linux-usb.org, and the working devices list at http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/ Errr, why USB? USB under Linux still requires a black-belt degree in black magic. *pats his trusty 56K serial modem* Not really. According to the USB Guide, making a USB modem work involves a kernel-recompile, and adding a device. Funky user-friendly distros like Mandrake probably already have the support there. And since 2.2.18 and up have reasonably complete USB support rolled in, you don't even need to worry about upgrading to 2.4 anymore. The exception being usb-storage, but that's another story. Peter. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- BONG: http://www.bong.com.au EMAIL... [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 16867613 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] WFWG clients - How
Terry,
Can i suggest that your try the latest samba, if not i cant see any
reason not the use an older version of samba.
Samba still speaks basic smb, just does more now!
You could try using linux as a novell server which would mean a minimal
fuss transition as fast as the clients go.
I still have the wfwg tcpip stuff on my file server (i download drivers
and store them for occasions such as this, not like media is expensive)
Ill send/mail/post them to you if you want
Dean
Terry Collins wrote:
I am looking to retire my Novell 4.11 server but still need to provide
file and print services to two WFWG clients, which will be naturally off
a linux server.
Is anyone still doing this and how?
My understanding is that Samba gave up WFWG clients sometime ago. The
other option seems to be to dig out my PCNFS software from storage.
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Re: [SLUG] ADSL with two pair cable [slightly OT]
Service drop outs are pretty regular, the server at the other end just doesnt reply. The max connection length ive heard of is 6 days (most windows machines wont stay up that long *grin*) and ip address's do move around. For me its fine though, i mean, 60k/s debian isos ;) The modem is rated to 8mbit down 800kbit up, pity its so underutilised =( My only grief is that Bigpond is the only real option for the sort of net access im after... Dean Michael wrote: Campbelltown main exchange in the main street has ADSL as of about 2 weeks ago.. although my phone hangs off an exchange connected to the main one, so until they roll it out to the outlying exchanges. I have to wait. Although it hasn't stopped me from signing up every few days, just to show my interest. I'll get it, and downgrade my dingoblue account to 9.95 or something for when adsl is down :) I heard they had a few teething problems on the odd ocassion. Doh Thanks On Fri, 1 Jun 2001, Dean Hamstead wrote: They are in the mountains now ;) Glenmoore park has ADSL as well but its one rack is now full (all 80 positions or something silly like that) i think my installation was in the last 20 places on the glenbrook exchange ADSL really hasnt been publicised alot (tv ads etc) so i think at this point its really being taken up by the more technologically inclined (eg. linux gurus and counter-strike players) I get a ping of about 80ms to my old isp (1/2 of dialing in) and ssh is a whole new experience ;) Dean Michael wrote: With the roll out of pit street , maybe they might put more effort into rolling out more exchanges in other areas. I only wish :) On Fri, 1 Jun 2001, Dean Hamstead wrote: When i had mine installed i asked the telstra tech about it Apparently in a given bundle, only about 2-3/10 lines can have adsl otherwise you get interferance. So if your considering it stop considering and start ordering as in a street only a handful of houses can have adsl (or in my street of about 15, only maybe 4 can have it) They supply you with up to 3 inline filters for your handsets and if you have 4 or more handsets they install one master filter thingy (apparently). I dont think you should have more than 4 connecting devices anyway, i recall hearing that it splits the signal too much. Linux runs bigpond adsl as perfectly as i can imagine. My tip is *not* to get 256kbps (if your getting a home plan), get the 512k. For $10/m your making your life that muych better ;) (apparently the pit street data center will be in place in 6 months... apparently) Dean Vince Meissner wrote: I have a multi pair cable comming into my place, there doesn't seem to be any noticable interference from the ADSL enabled line to the other lines. For ADSL you just connect the ADSL modem straight into the line, To use a normal phone, fax, modem etc, you need to use a double adapter, and then a filter (supplied with most ADSL modems) on the lead going to the phone. -Vince Howard Lowndes wrote: Most domestic premises have two pair cabling which allows two separate services. 1. Has anyone any experiences with cross talk from an ADSL enabled pair over to the other non-ADSL enabled pair, or between two ADSL enabled pairs? 2. Is the Telstra offering splitterless or bandpass filtered? -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates http://lannetlinux.com _ We needn't, as socialists, get too concerned about privacy; it's a bourgeois right, closely allied to the right to private property. - Former Federal Health Minister Neal Blewett, addressing the Fabian Society in 1988 in relation to the Australia Card issue. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] ADSL with two pair cable [slightly OT]
They are in the mountains now ;) Glenmoore park has ADSL as well but its one rack is now full (all 80 positions or something silly like that) i think my installation was in the last 20 places on the glenbrook exchange ADSL really hasnt been publicised alot (tv ads etc) so i think at this point its really being taken up by the more technologically inclined (eg. linux gurus and counter-strike players) I get a ping of about 80ms to my old isp (1/2 of dialing in) and ssh is a whole new experience ;) Dean Michael wrote: With the roll out of pit street , maybe they might put more effort into rolling out more exchanges in other areas. I only wish :) On Fri, 1 Jun 2001, Dean Hamstead wrote: When i had mine installed i asked the telstra tech about it Apparently in a given bundle, only about 2-3/10 lines can have adsl otherwise you get interferance. So if your considering it stop considering and start ordering as in a street only a handful of houses can have adsl (or in my street of about 15, only maybe 4 can have it) They supply you with up to 3 inline filters for your handsets and if you have 4 or more handsets they install one master filter thingy (apparently). I dont think you should have more than 4 connecting devices anyway, i recall hearing that it splits the signal too much. Linux runs bigpond adsl as perfectly as i can imagine. My tip is *not* to get 256kbps (if your getting a home plan), get the 512k. For $10/m your making your life that muych better ;) (apparently the pit street data center will be in place in 6 months... apparently) Dean Vince Meissner wrote: I have a multi pair cable comming into my place, there doesn't seem to be any noticable interference from the ADSL enabled line to the other lines. For ADSL you just connect the ADSL modem straight into the line, To use a normal phone, fax, modem etc, you need to use a double adapter, and then a filter (supplied with most ADSL modems) on the lead going to the phone. -Vince Howard Lowndes wrote: Most domestic premises have two pair cabling which allows two separate services. 1. Has anyone any experiences with cross talk from an ADSL enabled pair over to the other non-ADSL enabled pair, or between two ADSL enabled pairs? 2. Is the Telstra offering splitterless or bandpass filtered? -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates http://lannetlinux.com _ We needn't, as socialists, get too concerned about privacy; it's a bourgeois right, closely allied to the right to private property. - Former Federal Health Minister Neal Blewett, addressing the Fabian Society in 1988 in relation to the Australia Card issue. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Toshiba 2540XCDT ALSA help.
Did you read the documentation accompanying ALSA? you may also find alsa-conf (on the alsa ftp) very helpful if you really dont know much about linux (or if your lazy) Dean Jeremy Kerwin wrote: Greetings all. I am trying to get the Yamaha OPL3SA2 sound card working in my Toshiba 2540XCDT using the ALSA in Red Hat 7.1 I have configure and compiled the ALSA-driver. IF anyone has any ideas on how to do this...or if someone has actually succedded in doing this that would be great. Thanks in advance... __ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- BONG: http://www.bong.com.au EMAIL... [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 16867613 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] ADSL with two pair cable [slightly OT]
When i had mine installed i asked the telstra tech about it Apparently in a given bundle, only about 2-3/10 lines can have adsl otherwise you get interferance. So if your considering it stop considering and start ordering as in a street only a handful of houses can have adsl (or in my street of about 15, only maybe 4 can have it) They supply you with up to 3 inline filters for your handsets and if you have 4 or more handsets they install one master filter thingy (apparently). I dont think you should have more than 4 connecting devices anyway, i recall hearing that it splits the signal too much. Linux runs bigpond adsl as perfectly as i can imagine. My tip is *not* to get 256kbps (if your getting a home plan), get the 512k. For $10/m your making your life that muych better ;) (apparently the pit street data center will be in place in 6 months... apparently) Dean Vince Meissner wrote: I have a multi pair cable comming into my place, there doesn't seem to be any noticable interference from the ADSL enabled line to the other lines. For ADSL you just connect the ADSL modem straight into the line, To use a normal phone, fax, modem etc, you need to use a double adapter, and then a filter (supplied with most ADSL modems) on the lead going to the phone. -Vince Howard Lowndes wrote: Most domestic premises have two pair cabling which allows two separate services. 1. Has anyone any experiences with cross talk from an ADSL enabled pair over to the other non-ADSL enabled pair, or between two ADSL enabled pairs? 2. Is the Telstra offering splitterless or bandpass filtered? -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates http://lannetlinux.com _ We needn't, as socialists, get too concerned about privacy; it's a bourgeois right, closely allied to the right to private property. - Former Federal Health Minister Neal Blewett, addressing the Fabian Society in 1988 in relation to the Australia Card issue. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Toshiba 2540XCDT soundcard issues.
Maybe what you need is alsa www.alsa-project.org Dean Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Jeremy Kerwin Does anyone have any experience getting the soundcard to work in a toshiba 2540XCDT laptop? Hah. Swoit machine. :) If it's close enough to the similar model we have at the office, it will be a Maestro chip, which works with the 'maestro' kernel module. I forget how Red Hat does module loading though, sorry. :) - Jeff -- ASCII stupid question, get a stupid ANSI. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- BONG: http://www.bong.com.au EMAIL... [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 16867613 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Ms Publisher like apps?
Anyone know of any GPL'd *nix apps like MS Publisher. Its so good i think MS must have outsourced its creation ;) But seriously, i would like something similar it on my normal workstation! Dean -- BONG: http://www.bong.com.au EMAIL... [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 16867613 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Require in mod_perl
Whats the story with require in mod_perl? i have to replace it with do inorder to not get an internal server error. i mean hey do works, i just would like to know whats going on. xfire? Dean -- BONG: http://www.bong.com.au EMAIL... [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 16867613 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] which (non-nvidia) graphics card?
ati radeon Dean Russell Davies wrote: This is probably a FAQ here -- but can anyone recommend a non-NVIDIA graphics card that has 2d _and_ 3d dri capabilities in XFree 4.0.3? Bonus points for suggesting a cheap place online to purchase one. :) cheers, r. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Non-GUI ppp configuration for RedHat?
Edit /etc/ppp/options (not totally needed but makes life a lil easier) edit /etc/ppp/pap-secrets (or chap-secrets) edit /etc/ppp/ppp.chatscript then run /usr/sbin/pppd connect /usr/sbin/chat -v -r /etc/ppp/report-chat -f /etc/ppp/ppp.chatscript works for me ;) Dean Rev Simon Rumble wrote: Okay RH afficionados, please tell me there is a non-GUI way to configure ppp under RedHat 7? If there isn't it's the last straw and I'm gonna install something sane instead. -- Rev Simon RumbleCurrent physical location: London, UK [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.rumble.net And you can't get any Watney's Red Barrel, because the bars close every time you're thirsty... -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- BONG: http://www.bong.com.au EMAIL... [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 16867613 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] [OT] 3 wire fans
ooh ooh ooh you learn this in high school physics you need a stobe light with a controllable frequency you point it at it and adjust it till the blades stop at that point your frequency is a multiple of the fans frequency. Youll find as you lower the frequency the blades will move again and then slow and stop. You will eventually match the number of rotations and then youll get the same affect as you get to 1/2 frequency or 1/4 frequency stop the fan and mark a blade. start it again, then get the mark to stand still and repeat the process. if your at 1/2 youll find that the dot is in two places (or more as you go to 1/4...), increase frequency till it stops in place. Presto! your frequency matches the number of rotations per second. You can then work out all sorts of neat stuff in combo with the blade length (eg radius) works for all fans and isnt os dependant. it is also free to use but comes with no warranty and you can distribute it. Dean Michael Lake wrote: Alex Salmon wrote: i have one of those 3 wire fans on my cpu. My question is how do i measure the rpm of my fan from it. rpm --query --speed -p fan Mike :-) -- Michael Lake Active caver, Linux enthusiast and interested in anything technical. Safety Convenor, Australian Speleological Federation Owner, Speleonics (Australia) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- BONG: http://www.bong.com.au EMAIL... [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 16867613 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Why RedHat sucks
At this point i would like to mention turbolinux. If your a redhat fan and are sick of the amount of rubbish you get, and youd also like to have more provided binary packages that are better-than-rh integrated, then turbo could be for you. Go get the iso now. There is a workstation and a server, as you know you dont want say squid on a workstation, and you wouldnt want say gnumeric on a server. try now, is good. is redhat like with lots more control on the install process with heaps of console config tools for people who are lazy/dont know Dean Del wrote: OK, and I have a number of equivalent arguments as to why Debian sucks. For example: * Why don't they build packages from pristine sources. * What the fxxk is the name of the program I use to install packages again, is it dselect, apt-get, or dpkg? * Why does dselect tell me it's going to apply a bunch of security fixes to my debian system by _uninstalling_ a whole pile of stuff that I added with apt-get (such as apache, for example). * Why on earth do they still insist on running named as root? Other more useful commercial arguments include that most of the commercial Linux software (Oracle, Firewall-1, VMware, etc, etc) is targeted at RedHat and not Debian. It just makes sense for my clients' sake that I continue to use Red Hat. On a more personal note as a software developer, one of my packages is still floating around the net as a .deb file with _someone else's copyright notice_ attached to it. OK, so who gave the Debian developers permission to change the copyright message on other people's software? Are they packaging Oracle 8i in a .deb file with a GPL copyright message on it too? I'd like to see that one fly. I could go on. I won't. I've had enough of the arguments either side. I'm used to Red Hat, I tried it, I liked it, I tried Debian and I didn't like that much. Other people's mileage may vary. The fact of the matter is, *this is a Linux mailing list*. It's not an *I hate RedHat* mailing list or an *I hate Debian* mailing list. Personally, I don't give a rat's arse what version of Linux other people use, as long as it weans them off Microsoft, and one day I may very well find a customer site where I really need to use Debian instead of RedHat so I will. I still have one site running a really old version of slackware because it's small, fast, light, and nobody can remember what the bugs are any more. I'm getting rather tired of the *I hate RH* vs *I hate Debian* flame wars on this list and I just wish they'd all stop. If you want to flame something then go find an advocacy list or a net.news group with a bunch of people who care, 'cos I sure as hell don't. Simon, sure, a How to use Debian for RedHat users might be somewhat constructive, especially for people like me who use RH 90% of the time and have to play with the occasional Debian system, but a page that has the title Why RedHat sucks is neither constructive nor useful, except for Microsoft employees. I bet Bill Gates has your web site plastered to the wall of his dunny, with a picture of Larry Ellison in a chicken suit next to it for added jerk off value. I strongly suggest, in the interest of the entire world wide Linux community, that you take it down and replace it with something a little more user friendly. Del -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- BONG: http://www.bong.com.au EMAIL... [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 16867613 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] UPS for linux
Also, I went out to buy a Netgear FA311TX or Intel EEPro based NIC today, and wound up getting talked into getting a 3com 3C905C-TXM. I was assured this is a reliable NIC with relatively low CPU demands and sustained high throughput. Does anyone have any comments on these NICs? Is it a decent NIC or junk... I bought it to replace the SMC EZ10/100 I got with my ADSL, which has proven itself to be unstable junk in my motherboard. I have two of them, have run them in linux since 2.0 and now in freebsd as well. No complaints except the price. The netgear is just as good IMO but cheaper. I only run netgears now, no point in screwing around. Dean -- BONG: http://www.bong.com.au EMAIL... [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 16867613 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
