Re: [SLUG] Tutorial for a LaTeX package.
why Latex in this modern age? On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 4:28 PM, wbenn...@turing.une.edu.au wrote: Can anyone point me towards a tutorial for the geometric package in LaTeX? Regards, William Bennett. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] tracking incoming connections by IP /or hostname?
do you mean netstat -a ? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Multifunction printers vs dedicated sheet-feed scanners?
I have a client that runs really old printers. HP1300's, HP1100's and even older. Keep in mind that these things are just (electro)-mechanical devices. Lubrication gets dry after a while. Most of the materials in these devices are usually excellent quality. The metal or nylon doesn't usually wear out. Screwdriver, vacuum-cleaner in reverse (blow out the dust and dirt) and some lubricating spray, and you have a good chance that you can keep your device going for another year, two, three or four. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Text to HTML?
Have you tried a template engine such as: - http://www.cheetahtemplate.org/ On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 10:04 AM, DaZZa dazzagi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. I'm looking for something that can take a text file and convert it into HTML, possible with some highlighting. I've got some routers reporting to my syslog server on a Linux box, but I want to be able to do a quick scan for bad things without having to SSH to the box and scrolling through the text file. It'd be nice if the files could be put in some form of date order/heading for each tracking (in conjunction with logrotate, maybe) to ensure all that it in the link is one days worth of logs. Anyone know of such a beastie? It's be nice if it was CentOS compatible, since that's what I'm stuck with at work, but if it's source and needs to be compiled, so be it. Thanks. DaZZa -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Huawei E585 pocket-wifi on vodafone network?
was 'usb-dev' tried? on ubuntu I had a 3 modem, and once you do a apt-get install usb-dev it suddenly was recognised and came to life.. On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 10:37 PM, Erik de Castro Lopo mle+s...@mega-nerd.com wrote: Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: I'm trying to set up a Huawei E585 pocket wifi device on Ubuntu 11.04. The device has a USB pid/vid of 12d1:1446 and network-manager simply doesn't recognise it. This device is rather confusing. When plugged into the machine lsusb says: 12d1:1446 Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd. E1552 (HSPA modem) but printed on the actual case is Huawei E585. By default it comes up as a USB mass storage device when plugged in. It then needs some magic incantation send via usb_modeswitch to actually switch it into modem mode. Unfortunately, while I have found magic incantations[0] for other modems, I have not been able to find any for this particular device. I am therefore going to suggest to the own of said device that they take it back to Vodafone and get it replaced with something that actually works on Linux. Erik [0] http://www.blah-blah.ch/Mra/HuaweiUmts -- -- Erik de Castro Lopo http://www.mega-nerd.com/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Hacked email
I'm not scamproof myself.. I've been scammed in europe a few times.. I too got the email.. I was ready to send the cash.. being stuck in europe with no cash and no cards (doubly bad if you're in a country where they don't/can't speak english). Anyway, there were some funny logic problems in the email.. I'm just pointing out for entertainment purposes.. Pay the hotel bill.. well in europe most of the time you have to prepay. The hotel takes a swipe of your credit card when you arrive. Even if you lose your card, the hotel can still take it's payment. Robbed at gunpoint. Like in Australia, it doesn't happen that much in the UK. Going to the airport soon. Well, it costs money to go to the airport like here. If the flight is leaving soon, no need to pay the hotel bill. Just make the flight.. etc.. well if not for those logic errors, I was close to sending money.. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] KDE gui package manger in Debian
I sort of sympathise. Maybe you need to teach him apt-get install . . in the command shell... Six years is very young.. but today I saw a boy in a pram playing with some sort of game device.. he's a boy.. apt-get is a boys toy really.. On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Steven Tucker tux...@yahoo.com.au wrote: Hi sluggers, quick background to problem: My son (6 yrs old) has been running Ubuntu for over a year, he keeps it up to date and installs games himself through the use of software center. As he has been an independent user capable of selecting and installing the software *he* wants, it would be very sad if he had to start relying on me. So now we come to the problem . with the inevitable move to from gnome2 to Unity or Gnome3, we looked at what environment he might like to choose. He decided he would like to use KDE, which may have been influenced by the fact that it is the choice I made, but never the less that is what he has chosen. For some reason there is a huge issue with Kubuntu and his hardware that I have given up trying to fix, so I have installed Debian (wheezy) and we both absolutely love it. The problem is it does not come with something like software center on KDE, and he is not about to start using apt! (least not till next year). Synaptic is not as simple as software center, I have read that there are issues getting software center running on Debian Wheezy, and if at all possible I would prefer a Qt/KDE solution. I have seen online Muon, which looks exactly like what I am after, easy software selection, integrated update notifier etc. But is not yet in Debian. Has anyone else come across this issue and found a suitable solution? We are sticking with KDE, are open to changing distro (but prefer not to) and would like relatively up to date software but not bleeding edge (so probably not Fedora or at the other end Debian stable). Thanks in advance Tuxta -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/**mailinglists.htmlhttp://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] KDE gui package manger in Debian
Patrick, When you say GUI ? do you mean something like this ? - http://lcdproc.org/ :-) a bit of hacking and perhaps you can get a graphics lcd working.. then he can have pixels.. On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 12:49 PM, elliott-brennan elliottbren...@gmail.comwrote: Steven wrote: Maybe I am selling him short, but his younger brother (only 4) will be joining the ranks soon, and I think he will still need a nice gui with pictures, so the problem remains. Hi Steven, There's nothing wrong with a nice GUI to do things with. It's attractive, easy to navigate and you can browse just like you do in a store! It's a great, fun way to look for something you may want to use and to find things you didn't know about. Sometimes I just wander down the aisles of the GNU/Linux 'app store' (LOL) on my machine just to see what there is and have found some amazingly interesting things. Re: the 'old dogs, new tricks' comment. Some old dogs never learnt tricks before becoming old :) Regards, Patrick -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/**mailinglists.htmlhttp://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Which Linux for Autonomous driving platform ?
Hi people, I'm trying to choose the best platform for an open source autonomous driving project that I've been working on for a while. - https://bitbucket.org/djlyon/smp-driverless-car-robot/overview I'm considering Debian Live, DSL, Puppy-Linux but can't make up my mind. Target hardware is something like a mini-ITX PC. But it could also be a Cortex-M3 or even an Android cellphone. I think the project will go away from being solely dedicated to cars. It's likely to go on boats and perhaps high-speed trains as well. Some buddies in Nevada (where driverless cars are legal) have offered to allow me to do testing there. Any ideas? Codebase is mainly Python, C, OpenCV, Arduino etc. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] The 'nanny state' and freedom of choice
Yes, Australia is definitely a Nanny state... So many examples - particularly in technology. High Speed Trains - we have 200kmh capable XPT trains. Not allowed to run them at their designed speed. Only run at 80-90kmh Uranium. Allowed to dig it up. Not allowed to use it in a pressure cooker or use it in any commercial lab. Solar Power - allowed to research it. Not allowed to commercialise it. Military - allowed to give 'Freedom' to outlying Islands (Timor) but does not allow Australians to go there and economically develop it. After giving 'freedom' other Governments.. like China.. Indonesia move in and setup commercial outposts where we did the clearing. Technology - a lot of Australians in Tech are bullied and told to get on a plane and leave the country if they have an idea and want to pursue it... Last technology example... Try find any of the great Australian Technology developed by Australians in an Australian Museum in Canberra or Sydney - it's not there. Nanny says No to recognising things like the Spectrum Analysers, Ear Implants, Combine Harverster, Puppy Linux, Solar Boats, Black Box Flight Recorders, Suntek Solar Cells or anything else done by innovative Australians... None of that gets into Australian Museums... 2011/6/29 david da...@kenpro.com.au Marghanita da Cruz wrote: From time to time, SLUG, gets into philosophical debates, in relation to Internet Filtering and Free/Open Source Software. I found this parliamentary briefing interesting and thought others may too. Note its focus is tobacco and gambling - so the principles may or may not apply. JUNE 16, 2011 The 'nanny state' and freedom of choice In recent times, a number of Australian Government policy initiatives have been criticised as 'nanny state' or 'paternalist' policies. http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/**parlInfo/search/display/** display.w3p;query=Id%3A%**22library%2Fprspub%2F875642%22http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;query=Id%3A%22library%2Fprspub%2F875642%22 ** What is nanny and what is justifiable is utterly a POV issue. example Some years ago in NSW, children of Jehovah's Witnesses were denied blood transfusions by their parents because of religious beliefs. The state introduced legislation and stepped in to make such children wards of the state if their lives were at risk. What right has the state to deny to a child eternity in the presence of the Lord for the sake of a few years of earthly life? /example Mostly whoever is in charge tries to impose their belief system and make it the current paradigm - whether it's religious, commercial, political or philosophical. I can't say I can see much logic going on, unless it's a kind of stumbling, long-term Darwinian logic. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/**mailinglists.htmlhttp://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] The 'nanny state' and freedom of choice
I'm not having a stab at the PowerHouse.. but why can't we use that AI system on Australia's High Speed Trains? why force those people to work in China not here? why does Nanny say No to trains that run faster than 90kmh? Why does Nanny say NO to having that technology here in Australia? On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 11:31 AM, pe...@chubb.wattle.id.au wrote: David == David Lyon david.lyon.preissh...@gmail.com writes: David Last technology example... David Try find any of the great Australian Technology developed by David Australians in an Australian Museum in Canberra or Sydney - David it's not there. You should check out the mezzanine level of the PowerHouse museum. Each year it contains a showcase of that year's Australian technology, along with older inventions like the Hill's Hoist and the Combine Harvester. The best bit this year was an AI system for recognising obstructions on railway tracks, that has been deployed on China's fast trains. Peter C -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] The 'nanny state' and freedom of choice
In Japan in the 1960's they were running standard trains on standard tracks on the the Shenkazen line at 160kmh - 200kmh. When they wanted to go faster than 200kmh they built special tracks. The XPT trains will run on standard tracks at 160-180kmh. But it isn't allowed. Australian Trains still don't run as fast as what German Steam Trains could run in the 1930's. Funnily enough - Hitler was more sympathetic to technology than what we find here in our Nanny State today. Sorry to say that - but results speak for themselves... On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Jake Anderson ya...@vapourforge.comwrote: I'm guessing that the 90km/h limit on the trains is more about the tracks than the trains. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Is Linux Dead a worthy Debate for a SLUG meeting?
Hi Patrick, You know if everybody brought their teenage children (with their android phones) they'd all be sitting there in silence (apart from the sound of electronic bing and ding) and the whole thing could be done as a facebook chat.. Occassionaly you'd see changes in face expression.. David -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Article, Linux, APC.
I'm employed as an IT Manager. Heterogeneous environments with Linux and Windows are perfectly acceptable these days. With Android pads coming onto the market, it's reason to have even less Windows machines. Modern Linux is perfectly robust and it all works like a charm so I don't mind taking on the responsibility for that. On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Kevin Shackleton krshackle...@gmail.comwrote: But they do - employers do pay you to use MS, otherwise their IT manager might have to shoulder some responsibility. Kevin On 24/06/2011 6:24 AM, David Lyon david.lyon.preissh...@gmail.com wrote: and late model Ubuntu releases run very nicely on 8 core machines... somebody would have to pay me to accept windows over ubuntu.. On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 8:21 AM, Jeremy Visser jer...@visser.name wrote: David Lyon said: The computers 'to-die-for' now, are no longer the Windows machines but the Android and Apple computers. Clearly, they both are Linux derivates. ... -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Article, Linux, APC.
It's not so much that Linux is dead, but rather it is perhaps finished. The computers 'to-die-for' now, are no longer the Windows machines but the Android and Apple computers. Clearly, they both are Linux derivates. So in a way, commercial Linux won out. There's little that really can be done on an activism front. Because that is just appstore or whatever they call it. So in a way, Linux is 'finished'. But finished in so far as it is now complete, useable and stable. On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 4:12 PM, wbenn...@turing.une.edu.au wrote: Has anyone read/have an opinion of the article Is Linux finished that appears in the APC magazine of July 2011? I haven't read it. A friend alerted me; being the suspicious sod that I am, my first reaction would be to check the provenance of the material and the qualifications of the writer. If it's anyone called Gates, my second reaction would be to move briskly to the bird cage, which is in need of fresh lining. Regards, William Bennett. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Article, Linux, APC.
Of course. gnu tool chain, has a command shell... if it has a shell where you can enter linux commands.. it's a linux derivative.. just a very beautiful one.. On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Adrian Chadd adr...@creative.net.auwrote: On Thu, Jun 23, 2011, David Lyon wrote: It's not so much that Linux is dead, but rather it is perhaps finished. The computers 'to-die-for' now, are no longer the Windows machines but the Android and Apple computers. .. Apple - linux derivative? Adrian -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Article, Linux, APC.
So clearly, the main market forces are: Android (Linux), Apple (BSD), Microsoft (Windows).. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Linux in Australia in 2012 - trends..
Opinions sought... What will happen in Linux in Australia in 2012? Yes Ubuntu is nice, but Android is surely set to be a competitor ? Is anyone going to retrofit Linux for sensors and A/D ports? Accelerometers? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] How to do a Custom Print Processor in Linux ?
Hi all, Background for this is that a client has a dBaseIV DOS accounting system that they will upgrade after the Senior Partner retires. Which is a decade or more away. Printing from DOS is the not negotiable part. For a few years, I've run a server on a Windows machine that intercepts LPT1: data and sends it to a TCP/IP port where I have a server process that then renders the text output to graphics (Windows GDI) under Windows and the output prints. Its all good until electrical contractors come and disconnect cables from the hub, and then the network goes, and it all breaks and users complain. This problem only occurs in XP, not on Windows 2000, but the W2K is disappearing. Now I want to move the rendering of text files to a Linux server (some stable ones exist here) and hoping to do the same in Linux. Anybody know how to drive CUPS from Python and do GDI level control ? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] How to do a Custom Print Processor in Linux ?
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Nick Andrew n...@nick-andrew.net wrote: then the network goes, and it all breaks and users complain. It doesn't sound like a software problem. In a sense you are right. But the subtlety of who's fault it is never goes to the person who kicked the wire out, just the IT department as a whole. Now I want to move the rendering of text files to a Linux server (some stable ones exist here) and hoping to do the same in Linux. Would it be possible to run the DOS software in a virtual machine under linux? dBaseIV works amazingly well under DOSBox - but they don't want to use it. That's not the problem. The problem is that it's getting hard to find Laser printers that print ascii data streams. Recent HP printers no longer work with character streams. So we have to intercept the print stream and render to graphics. Including all the character escapes that make things bigger and bold and so forth. That part is all working fine with the Windows GDI. It seems what I need to do is make a postscript rendering engine for it to work under Linux. Which looks possible, but I'm open to other ideas. David -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Looking for tiny little (old?) linux box as shown at meetings..
Hi, I want to buy a tiny (and perphaps older) linux box if anybody has one lying around. What I am talking about is the industrial type super compact models that are fanless. Can't be bothered getting one from offshore since I'm going anyway soon but if somebody has one I'd like to know how much. The only requirement is that it has VGA output and can run a webbrowser. Needs to be no bigger than 20cm x 10cm x 4cm. just contact me offlist.. I'm in sydnew and would probably pick it up from reception somewhere and leave the money. Regards David -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] submissions to National Innovation System Review
Silvia, You know, actually, when I opened the innovation.gov.au link and navigated to the cartoons section... it did make me extremely angry... because it contains a lot of insults that get thrown at us by government... ie australian industry being mediocre and so forth... it is rather condescending.. i found anyway.. So don't take anything I said too personally just as I don't take the offensive material on your website personally either. The realities of what we produce is more upbeat.. Don't know if you saw TopGear on SBS last night... it was a cracker episode... What they did was to compare the Australian built (but American owned) SV8 (commodore) now sold in britain to a selection of German cars at the same price. Turns out what we make here ate all the German cars for dinner To me, that was an absolutely fantastic - and perfectly realistic assessment. What a lot of people in our own Government don't realise is the standards of workmanship in Australia have risen so dramatically in the last 50 years that we are now pumping out some pretty incredible stuff. Like cars that can stand a side by test with the best the Germans do. In Linux, Tridge produces Samba. Which basically powers all the non-windows file servers of the western world Nobody rates that as mediocre Not everything in Germany is as rosy as it may seem. It is a big economy and lots of things are happening. Actually, there is no better country to go to to learn about innovation commercialisation and distribution.. If I was in government.. I'd be making sure a lot more Australians got there and learnt from the way things are set up there... no - I didn't say octoberfest... -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: submissions to National Innovation System Review
Quoting Marghanita da Cruz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I share David's skepticism and would even venture he is being extremely polite given the reality. I don't know if I am skeptical.. and reality is usually the result of what you did yesterday... Perhaps a change of government could improve things. Didn't we just do that ? The old ones were stooges The biggest and most useful source of government funding is it's contracts. There used to be a local content/industry development component but that is gone and maybe it didn't work. Actually that is misinformation. We've had some excellent industries in Australia and often they've been shut down by governments unfairly. (This applies to Linux) Then they want to do something to correct the mistake and pump in 17c but only 4c ends up getting to the people to do the work. Who wants to work for that ? At the same time (applies to linux), they pump money offshore to buy basically the same thing. Perphaps there is some good management there.. keep some costs down. (doesn't apply to Linux) However, given the size of the Australian market if these contracts/customers are denied to local companies (to not just develop technical but leadership experience) then anything else the government does is just whitewash. more misinformation. There are 2 billion people on our doorstep are you blind ? You really need to fix ASIO. It has a serious problem if it hasn't noticed that the population centre of the world is now about 10 hours flight away... Can you sell ASIO off ? Talk about one corrupted organisation in the true sense of the word... Most intelligence services now and for hundreds of years collect business intelligence information for their country. ASIO does sure. but for which countries is the question that I want to know... damn... I am trying to work on Linux and that ASIO thing still applies... because our governments don't even know where people and markets are... David -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: submissions to National Innovation System Review
Quoting Erik de Castro Lopo [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Silvia Pfeiffer wrote: Just for your information: I do not work for the government nor is it any of the stuff on www.innovation.gov.au my website. David, please note the above. I stand corrected... my apologies.. I'm not a very good people person.. at the best of times and you know what it is like having too many things on the boil in too many places.. sorry :-) David -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] submissions to National Innovation System Review
Quoting Silvia Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all, If any of you have made a submission to the National Innovation System Review http://www.innovation.gov.au/innovationreview/Pages/home.aspx , I'm on a panel discussing this topic and I'd like to find out what people's concerns were. Well you'll be rich soon - most people worth their salt in the Australian Government find it pretty easy to siphon off the development funds. Just one way I've heard of is.. a) find not enough (good) projects to invest in.. b) find a recognised fund manager.. c) move the funds to via the fund-manager to singapore where it can be collected less a commission... d) collect your money and go. Best thing is - all above board... nothing illegal in that. That's what happened with the $700 million grants from NOIE a few years ago... happy if you prove me wrong.. But seriously... What good is innovation if it isn't directed towards good quality saleable products ? That's basically what the world wants.. nothing else... The fact is that Australia has had so many opportunities to be a player in the global technology market but our Government has thwarted those opportunities for its people. For example, look at our involvement in Korea.. now a technology powerhouse... Australia was there - during the Korean war. We sent troops to Korea and a lot of our soldiers get killed. We win the war and had the whole country at our disposal. Our government then walks away - following orders I guess. At the same time, other governments, a bit more loyal to their citizens, supply a stream of their own people into Korea and fund them with money to rebuild (and own) the country. 20 years later Korea is transformed from an Agricultural backwater to high-tech powerhouse. All the other participants share in 25% ownership of the countries industry. Except for Australia of course.. we get to buy some flowers for some missing loved ones who were told they were doing it for their country. Exactly the same thing happened in Japan in WWII.. with unconditional surrender Australia could have owned 25% of Sony, Mazda, Mitsubishi... all or any of them... what do we own now - about 0.0001 of 1%.. quite shocking.. And now, China's market is booming... so what does Australia do about it apart from commodities ? nothing... absolute zilch... Send our young people there? give them our endorsement like the British or Germans ? i'm not hearing it.. We must not kid ourselves into believing the government spindoctoring. Our government is anti-innovation - and I am not picking up how any of this is actually getting Australian products into the worlds products stream. David -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux and other software made in India... and lessons we can't understand...
Quoting Shakthi Kannan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, --- On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 6:40 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Industry and Government work very hand in hand... | | in India it is even more so and what I was saying was that it has got | them somewhere... \-- The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence ... or the ocean. :-) I wasn't trying to imply that... It's not so bad here - footpaths are smooth to walk on - no funny smells everywhere - no need to be careful about what food you eat and no scoldings... :-) so that wasn't my point - rather that a lot of Australians are pushed off overseas, even by Government IT policy... never to return... We even have people working in our Government to get Australians one-way tickets to overseas to work. To me, I think that is wrong. In India, very different. If you go off to the States or Europe and come back, you get some sort of god status. But here in Australia... it is totally the opposite... going off overseas and coming back get's you the equivilent to leppar status... That is why I admire that part of Indian technology philosphy. The reason behind using FOSS is mostly for cost cutting solutions rather than 'software freedom'. There are still challenges. http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Challenges True. But I think there are some fundimental differences between Indian and Western society in there. I'm not an academic, so I can't pull that sort of stuff apart and give you some nice short answer. However, open-source doesn't always mean totally free. Free software is something (imho) entirely different to open-source. The point behind open source can be honesty, ie we show you our source because we have nothing to hide. But then that might lead to paid services or add in products at additional cost. So it can be just a marketing mechanism... One point I liked from the link was about Indian workers only wanting to be paid. Of course we have that here too. Good open source projects always have either money coming in to pay for programming... or are done as some sort of communal hobby arrangement. That is the difficult part behind open-source.. making it commercial. Here it is a little bit easier because people do value good work and in theory don't mind paying for it. Reality of course is somewhat different but that is another story :-) Regards David -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Multiple Offices with redundant DSL Connection
Quoting Sven Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED]: VPNwise I was thinking about OpenVPN but still open to any other products which are open source. OpenVPN is pretty good in my opinion. Most of the other designs (poptop) are implementations/copies of PPTP which is a proprietory format. I've used OpenVPN successfully with Samba and whilst there are perphaps some delays it is still pretty useful. I had already a look at http://lartc.org/howto/ and got some ideas but it'll still be a lot of work to put together all the scripts. True. There is always some script work to be done. I personally have been a bit lazy/distracted with my project lately and have some time to inject in this sort of thing again soon. Also, I have some overseas programmers in Europe who love challenges that are thrown at them. (I reward them by giving them financially challenged projects :-) ) As it isn't such an uncommon problem I was wondering if somebody else has a similar setup and likes to exchange experiences, ideas and pitfalls. You can reach me off list. Trick with VPNs is to do them incrementally. ie: - start with making the connection - extend the network - add load-balancing - add configuration - add management voila! final thing: - get your friends all over the world to share (home-made) movies and mp3 recordings from their band. just joking. I actually hate it when they do that :-( David -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Linux and other software made in India... and lessons we can't understand...
Quoting Richard Ibbotson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Also, my mobile phone runs on the Three network - www.three.co.uk - this is the worst mobile phone network that I have ever come across. Believe me, I've seen some bad networks and mostly in the United States. You call the three call centre and someone comes back with some Bindi Badger (curried badger/wombat) type of language which is completely unintelligible and then they proceed to screw up everything yes... but at least no matter where you are in the world and call you still get the same call centre with the same people ... at the very least it is consistant no matter where you go... :-) Well all I can say to other comments is the British and Americans and Germans are all making a stack of money out of India. They are doing something right that Australia as a country is not. Well, we export a lot of gold there so that is one thing. As for higher level skills, recently, Morris Yemma whoever whatever recently went to India and offered to use NSW as a labour supply to the Tata company. After being wined and dined and probably offered a lot of Kingfisher beer. I would say India is a fascinating country for technology... It has achieved what the Australian politicians promised us - (vibrant exporting IT industry) - and we have largely been left stuck up the billabong. funny accents and funny smells yes but you gotta give it to them, they have done wonders with software and computers... such a pity our political leaders aren't actually smart enough to figure out how they have done it but they don't mind spending our hard earned money on some wining and dining and partying to try to figure it out David -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux and other software made in India... and lessons we can't understand...
Quoting Richard Ibbotson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: but you gotta give it to them, they have done wonders with software and computers... Okay .. fine :) such a pity our political leaders aren't actually smart enough to figure out how they have done it but they don't mind spending our hard earned money on some wining and dining and partying to try to figure it out Sounds like Mr Brown ... better get back to some Linux now ... Hey.. don't get me wrong... I'm all into the dining and partying anywhere in the world I find myself at the time I'm actually more guilty than most... and I make no apologies for it :-) Actually my point is that more Australians should do it... and work together way more than we have in the past I really admire the way the British Government works hand in hand with British Industry. They'll go drinking together and have pissups anywhere unashamed does our Government work the same way with Australian Industry ? I don't think so.. Same with the Germans... Industry and Government work very hand in hand... in India it is even more so and what I was saying was that it has got them somewhere... so who are the drinking partners of *our* political leaders - it's usually none of us. But put me to the test try to get a meeting about Australian Linux with the NSW GCIO... Government Chief Information Office Chances are you'll be bounced over to another office then back... then around. come on... facts are NSW Government has no interest in local Linux... Ever listened to British Government people talk about how proud they are that Ubuntu is London based ? Fact is - if Australian business offered the same number of glasses of champagne that Australian Government officials received abroad - we'd be locked up by ICAC for the rest of our lives So yes - work on Linux - good idea. But be very careful about how you do it in Australia. Because how it is done in other countries will run you the risk of some serious jail time here in Australia... Compared to Bangalore, NSW is still a penal colony when it comes to business... Guess that is why our poli's are finally waking up to the fact that those places are actually not all that bad places to be... I'll work on Linux... but not with my eyes closed... way too dangerous here in Australia David -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] wireless broadband?
Quoting Del [EMAIL PROTECTED]: So, who uses wireless broadband here? I'm currently researching the available alternatives and although Virgin appears the cheapest they also appear to have limited coverage and none of the vendors provide (a) Linux support or (b) an offer of your money back if you can't get it working on Linux. I actually don't have any wired internet - going only on 3's mobile internet. No complaints about the service or cost ([EMAIL PROTECTED]/m) and it works fine at 110km/h while the wife is driving. For using with Linux, one thing you should be aware of is that the vendors/carriers will know not much about the technology they are selling. There are actually big changes here (in the last few months) technology wise, with new 3G routers becoming available. They work just like an adsl router only you plug in the sim card from your mobile phone. So I wouldn't imagine any difficulties running linux. here is a link... to one example... http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/index.php/taxid;345396484;pid;5301 Cheaper ones (generic) ones are available in Shenzhen/China and Taiwan. Good thing about 3 is the roaming.. you can use the internet in HongKong, UK, Germany, France, Malaysia etc and it is s ss much cheaper than pumping 1 euro coins into and internet cafe for 3 mins.. omg... how i hate that... even with roaming rates on 3 for me it's only 25-50c at a time... but don't go over the download limit... then they hit ya real easy for an extra coupla hundred bucks. oh well tax-deductible anyway Good Luck David -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: eee pc 900 (20080709)
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Re: [SLUG] usb automount problem with multiple logons
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Re: [SLUG] more RS232: USB-RS232, PCI ?
I came across this - seams very simple... and cheap too... It's just a cable with all the chips built in http://www.antonline.com/p_SBT-USC1M-NX_471223.htm Quoting Jobst Schmalenbach [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ahh! data logging the old fashion way ... but still good. http://www.verbatim.com.au/products/hardware.cfm Jobst On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 10:39:15AM +1000, Voytek Eymont ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I want to setup a 'data logger' for rain water tanks and hot water storage tanks, for this I'll need at leats 3 RS232 ports luckily, the vinatge of computers found at rubish tips, oops, recycling places, generally has two RS232 ports, but, that still leaves me short of one port: I have several multi RS232s cards, but, ISA, which is of not much use should I get a PCI multi RS232 card, or, go for USB-with-two-RS232 ports gadget ? (or, get another PC, and use two PCs...) -- Voytek -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- Computers run on smoke, once the smoke gets out they don't work anymore! | |0| | Jobst Schmalenbach, [EMAIL PROTECTED], General Manager | | |0| Barrett Consulting Group P/L The Meditation Room P/L |0|0|0| +61 3 9532 7677, POBox 277, Caulfield South, 3162, Australia -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: BBC iPlayer beta
Quoting James Purser [EMAIL PROTECTED]: No, the BBC actively blocks non UK ip addresses for a lot of stuff. -- James Purser [EMAIL PROTECTED] probably cos they (we) don't pay the uk telly tax. which is what keeps the bbc going With everybody having broadband these days.. and the ease of setting up a vpn link to the UK (or any other country for that matter)... this doesn't really sound like a technical problem. All you need is a friend in the uk who doesn't mind you setting up a squid server on their linux box. Then vpn to their box and point your browser to their squid server which will drag down the programs. Since i know how many british expats there are out there, and how important it is to be connected... this advice is to help them... joys of linux - i would say -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: BBC iPlayer beta
Quoting Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/6/30 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: All you need is a friend in the uk who doesn't mind you setting up a squid server on their linux box. Then vpn to their box and point your browser to their squid server which will drag down the programs. Why do you need a VPN? Can't you just use FoxyProxy, for instance, to tell your browser to pull BBC only (or even just the blocked URL's on BBC's web site) through the proxy, but everything else to be accessed directly? That's similar to what I did at work - I setup a protected proxy on our DMZ for other purposes but use it also to browse from our faster link. FoxyProxy allows me to avoid using the proxy when accessing internal web sites which the DMZ proxy isn't going to work with. So what's the advantage of a VPN over that? I am already openvpn'd to servers based in europe so it was the first thing that came to mind Using a vpn to my mind provides a degree of security.. If foxyproxy works too then that is good but before you mentioned it I had never heard of it... Daivd -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] perl comm port data reading/parsing
Quoting Voytek Eymont [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
you need to fix this line, so it does the read.
$linebuffer =. $port-read; # poll until data ready
I don't have any of the earlier emails but your first version must
have been correct.
---
#!/usr/bin/perl
use Device::SerialPort qw( :PARAM :STAT 0.07 );
my $MAXVAR = 20;# Maximum data variation (%)
my $port=Device::SerialPort-new(/dev/ttyS0);
my $tmpfile = /var/tmp/aqualogger;
my $linebuffer = ;
$port-baudrate(2400);
$port-databits(8);
$port-parity(none);
$port-read_char_time(0); # don't wait for each character
$port-read_const_time(1000); # 1 second per unfulfilled read call
$port-are_match(d);
# Main loop
while (1) {
# Read a full line of data
until (index($linebuffer,\r) != -1) {
$linebuffer =. $port-read; # poll until data ready
sleep 1; # polling sample time
}
print Full line received\nNow processing...;
# Extract what we need for the next step
$gotit = substr $linebuffer,1,index($linebuffer,\r);
# We must put any stray characters after the terminator back
# into the linebuffer as they will form the start of the next
# line.
$linebuffer = substr $linebuffer, index($linebuffer,\r);
$gotit =~ /a(\d+)b\dc(\d+)d(\d+)e\df(\d+)g/;
$level1 = $1 / 10;
$temp1 = $2 / 10;
$level2 = $3 / 10;
$temp2 = $4 / 10;
printf Read: %s\n, $gotit;
print T1 Lvl: $level1, Temp: $temp1 T2 Lvl: $level2, Temp: $temp2\n;
}
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Re: [SLUG] perl comm port data reading/parsing
Quoting Voytek Eymont [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
on first read, I get only 'half' of output, followed my 'wrong offset',
see below:
Right,
You must wait till the end of line character is received, and not when
data is available.
Set up a variable called 'linebuffer' or something...
keep adding characters in your loop until you receive a carriage-return.
Once you have your carriage return, process the line, and clear the
linebuffer.
Regards
David
On Wed, June 25, 2008 12:14 am, Gonzalo Servat wrote:
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Voytek Eymont [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Works for me:
my $str = 'a1566b0c203d1477e0f205g';
if( $str =~ /a(\d+)b\dc(\d+)d(\d+)e\df(\d+)g/ ) { printf( DEPTH: %.1f\n,
$1/10 );
printf( AIR TEMP: %.1f\n, $2/10 ); }
Gonzalo, thanks
so my problem is not in parsing expression, then
on first read, I get only 'half' of output, followed my 'wrong offset',
see below:
# ./aa.pl
Read: a6b0c213
T1 Lvl: 0, Temp: 0 T2 Lvl: 0, Temp: 0
Read: 1e0f221ga6b0c213
T1 Lvl: 0, Temp: 0 T2 Lvl: 0, Temp: 0
Read: 1e0f221ga6b0c211
T1 Lvl: 0, Temp: 0 T2 Lvl: 0, Temp: 0
Read: 1e0f221ga6b0c211
T1 Lvl: 0, Temp: 0 T2 Lvl: 0, Temp: 0
Read: 1e0f221ga6b0c212
T1 Lvl: 0, Temp: 0 T2 Lvl: 0, Temp: 0
aa.pl:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] tank]# cat aa.pl
#!/usr/bin/perl
#
# Pool an Aqualogger via a serial port and write the temp and
# level values to a temporary file for use by other scripts.
#
# Steve Cliffe - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
#
# April 2007
use Device::SerialPort qw( :PARAM :STAT 0.07 );
my $MAXVAR = 20;# Maximum data variation (%)
my $port=Device::SerialPort-new(/dev/ttyS0);
my $tmpfile = /var/tmp/aqualogger;
$port-baudrate(2400);
$port-databits(8);
$port-parity(none);
$port-read_char_time(0); # don't wait for each character
$port-read_const_time(1000); # 1 second per unfulfilled read call
$port-are_match(d);
# Main loop
while (1) {
my $gotit = ;
until ( ne $gotit) {
$gotit = $port-lookfor; # poll until data ready
sleep 1; # polling sample time
}
$gotit =~ /a(\d+)b\dc(\d+)d(\d+)e\df(\d+)g/;
$level1 = $1 / 10;
$temp1 = $2 / 10;
$level2 = $3 / 10;
$temp2 = $4 / 10;
printf Read: %s\n, $gotit;
print T1 Lvl: $level1, Temp: $temp1 T2 Lvl: $level2, Temp:
$temp2\n;
}
--snip--
Minicom outputs this:
Welcome to minicom 2.1
OPTIONS: History Buffer, F-key Macros, Search History Buffer, I18n
Compiled on Jan 7 2007, 04:48:39.
Press CTRL-A Z for help on special keys
a2b0c213d1e0f222ga2b0c213d1e0f222ga2b0c213d1e0f221g
**though** sometimes, in Minicom, I see some garabage as first 10 or 20 chars
Minicom captures as follows:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] tank]# cat minicom.cap
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
tank]#
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Re: [SLUG] perl comm port data reading/parsing
Quoting Voytek Eymont [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
yes, I thought it was something like that, I recall some REXX script we
had for SMSsing, it had stuff like that to process comm port;
there must be some ready made perl code like that, any thoughts where to
look for such ? (I'm just a water tank gauge installer)
Well you are almost there
Problem is that the UART has a 16 byte buffer (or something like that)
and your processor is way too fast. These characters are coming in
probably at 1 line per second.
In the old script your processor was spinning out before it had even
finished receiving the line of data
try something like this... it isn't debugged... you will have to do
that.. i cannot ensure it is right or it will work
my $MAXVAR = 20;# Maximum data variation (%)
my $port=Device::SerialPort-new(/dev/ttyS0);
my $tmpfile = /var/tmp/aqualogger;
my $linebuffer =
$port-baudrate(2400);
$port-databits(8);
$port-parity(none);
$port-read_char_time(0); # don't wait for each character
$port-read_const_time(1000); # 1 second per unfulfilled read call
$port-are_match(d);
# Main loop
while (1) {
my $linebuffer = ;
until (index($linebuffer,\r) -1) {
$linebuffer = $linebuffer + $port-lookfor; #
poll until data ready
sleep 1; # polling sample time
}
print Full line received\nNow processing...
# Extract what we need for the next step
$gotit = substr $linebuffer,1,index($linebuffer,\r)
# We must put any stray characters after the terminator back
# into the linebuffer as they will form the start of the next
# line.
$linebuffer = substr $linebuffer, index($linebuffer,\r)
$gotit =~ /a(\d+)b\dc(\d+)d(\d+)e\df(\d+)g/;
$level1 = $1 / 10;
$temp1 = $2 / 10;
$level2 = $3 / 10;
$temp2 = $4 / 10;
printf Read: %s\n, $gotit;
print T1 Lvl: $level1, Temp: $temp1 T2 Lvl: $level2, Temp:
$temp2\n;
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Re: [SLUG] perl comm port data reading/parsing
apologies...
there was a fatal flaw... so this is the update..
my $MAXVAR = 20;# Maximum data variation (%)
my $port=Device::SerialPort-new(/dev/ttyS0);
my $tmpfile = /var/tmp/aqualogger;
my $linebuffer =
$port-baudrate(2400);
$port-databits(8);
$port-parity(none);
$port-read_char_time(0); # don't wait for each character
$port-read_const_time(1000); # 1 second per unfulfilled read call
$port-are_match(d);
# Main loop
while (1) {
until (index($linebuffer,\r) -1) {
$linebuffer = $linebuffer + $port-lookfor; #
poll until data ready
sleep 1; # polling sample time
}
print Full line received\nNow processing...
# Extract what we need for the next step
$gotit = substr $linebuffer,1,index($linebuffer,\r)
# We must put any stray characters after the terminator back
# into the linebuffer as they will form the start of the next
# line.
$linebuffer = substr $linebuffer, index($linebuffer,\r)
$gotit =~ /a(\d+)b\dc(\d+)d(\d+)e\df(\d+)g/;
$level1 = $1 / 10;
$temp1 = $2 / 10;
$level2 = $3 / 10;
$temp2 = $4 / 10;
printf Read: %s\n, $gotit;
print T1 Lvl: $level1, Temp: $temp1 T2 Lvl: $level2, Temp:
$temp2\n;
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[SLUG] How to load locale in ubuntu for German test environment..
Hi all,
I want to do testing of some python programs on Ubuntu (hardy i think)
for a German client.
Everything works fine for Australia, but I don't seem to have a locale
for Germany loaded. I have no idea where to load it. Can anybody help ?
import locale
locale.setlocale(locale.LC_ALL, '')
'en_AU.UTF-8'
print locale.localeconv()
{'mon_decimal_point': '.', 'int_frac_digits': 2, 'p_sep_by_space': 0,
'frac_digits': 2, 'thousands_sep': ',', 'n_sign_posn': 1,
'decimal_point': '.', 'int_curr_symbol': 'AUD ', 'n_cs_precedes': 1,
'p_sign_posn': 1, 'mon_thousands_sep': ',', 'negative_sign': '-',
'currency_symbol': '$', 'n_sep_by_space': 0, 'mon_grouping': [3, 3,
0], 'p_cs_precedes': 1, 'positive_sign': '', 'grouping': [3, 3, 0]}
locale.setlocale(locale.LC_ALL, 'de_DE')
Traceback (most recent call last):
File pyshell#5, line 1, in module
locale.setlocale(locale.LC_ALL, 'de_DE')
File locale.py, line 478, in setlocale
return _setlocale(category, locale)
Error: unsupported locale setting
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Re: [SLUG] Re: slug Digest, Vol 29, Issue 44
Quoting jam [EMAIL PROTECTED]: David I'm about to get one, so this is all hearsay, but Full Distro, including WiFi or CAT5 and all the bits. And the big draw card is low power. WA is somewhat shell shocked about power at the mo. Bluddy idjits, but I digress James Only thing I noticed is no VGA output.. unless mistaken.. outputs only to a crappy little LCD.. I want to output to 50 plus displays... Still.. looks like an irresistable tow imho David -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Recommendation for PC dealer/parts supplier
Quoting elliott-brennan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Has anyone any recommendations for parts suppliers? I live in the around the Inner West and am looking for somewhere to purchase a motherboard, CPU and some RAM. I have a car and am willing to travel a reasonable distance. Places like Campbelltown are okay too (I have rels out that way). One of the best kept secrets in Sydney is an ex-lease computer sales place. They have LCD monitors from $110 usually, but that might have gone down. Computers from about $90 through to $350. That is usually Dell or HP's but they also have white-boxes. The brand name ones look nice and my customers love them. Lots of genuine bargains... most of the time.. Details: Tom Liu MyTech Ex-Lease Computer Sales 92 Parramatta Road Homebush NSW 2140 Tel : 9764 1814 (customer endorsement only) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Is someone is snooping my wireless?
Quoting Cibby Pulikkaseril [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'd just like to add an anecdote on pseudo-random number generation: several years ago, a group of Canadian comp. sci. students were arrested for fraud. . ... Good story.. I can't seem to find a link to this story, though. Is it bogus? try sending it to mythbusters maybe they might know... David -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Gumstix - do they work ?
Are these things any good ? do they run python ? and have net access ? can somebody demo them at a meeting ? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Is someone is snooping my wireless?
Looks like it is going to be a boring day on slug from now on cos this one was really great... does kindof makes you think about all sorts of bizzarre possibilities... I've been working with regexes and search and replace... mixing that in with the http streaming (changing words in web pages on the fly) you could play some funny tricks on the wife when she is using the computer alone or on the teenage boys if they try to misuse the internet with their friends.. damn funny. damn damn funny (is it time for a prize system? - this post has my vote) Quoting Tony Sceats [EMAIL PROTECTED]: why not have a little fun instead of locking everything down immediately :) http://ex-parrot.com/~pete/upside-down-ternet.html and anyway, setting up a proxy server, forcing them through it and logging all requests may give you an insight into what they are doing on your network, and maybe who they are.. much more interesting than securing your network -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] evolution attachments
Quoting jam [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi my query to the forums was just closed after too long inactive. I would use evolution if I could enable 'display images inline' by default. Anybody know of a config setting ? Forgive me for this... but if it isn't in the config dialog box have you checked the source code ? http://www.gnome.org/projects/evolution/svn.shtml Your answer will be in there somewhere. (The joys of open-source-software) if you find it - just hack the code and recompile... it feels good... :-) David -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] problem with Displaying German characters under mozilla in Linux
Hi all, I am having a problem under linux.. with my html... with german characters.. Nothing is wrong with the system, every other german web page displays properly. Problem is the word höchsten in the following page. When it gets displayed in the browser it gets shown as höchsten. I know something is wrong - just not sure what it is. html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; lang=de xml:lang=de head titleLG GDR-H30N/title meta http-equiv=content-type content=text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 /head body table height=708 width=100% border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 tr td id=header DVD-Rom Laufwerk /td /tr tr td id=maintable width=100% border=0 cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 tr tdimg name=graphics1 align=left border=0 width=550 height=421 src=#xA; ../Images/LG-GDR-H10N_350_lge.jpg#xA; //td td h3 class=red Mit einer Geschwindigkeit von 16x (22.1 MB/Sek) wird das LG GDR-H30N höchsten /h3 p/p table id=spec width=100% border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 tr td h3 class=red Specs:/h3 ul type=disc li 52 Speed /li /ul /td /tr/table /td /tr /table/td /tr tr td id=footer table width=100% border=0 id=priceBar tr td width=73% align=right/td td width=27% align=righth1 /h1/td /tr /table /td /tr /table /body /html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] problem with Displaying German characters under mozilla in Linux
Hi Masood, Thank you very much for that... perfect... such a simple thing but you have saved me many hours of work. :-) Quoting Masood [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The problem is the meta tag sets a wrong encoding for the xhtml documents. in meta http-equiv=content-type content=text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 change iso-8859-1 to utf8 : David -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] composite multiple images command in imagemagick
Hi Rick, Quoting Rick Welykochy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've always pondered where to draw the line between sys admin and programmer /analyst. Well there's definitely a difference... but there are true sys-admins, true programmers and some who seem to be able to do both. Which raises the question: does it require a programmer to handle and correctly execute complex command-line programs like convert, etc. as found in Imagemagick? Definitely not. But it is painful for me seeing days of list debate for something that could be fixed (by a programmer) in an hour at the cost of a six-pack of german beer. :-) As an aside, my brain begins weeping when I have to do something novel with iptables (another command-line monster) but I don't consider that a programming job. I get the impression many Linux admins can configure iptables in the dark without a keyboard and both hands preoccupied with beer and pizza. I'm sure they can... but only if they are running with four monitors and 3 keyboards David -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: composite multiple images command in imagemagick
Well that's the spirit... Quoting elliott-brennan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: All Hail Amos :)) Looks like I owe you at least *a* beer! (note inference of more than singular :)) Nice to hear that something good came out of the whole thing.. David -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] composite multiple images command in imagemagick
Elliott, What you are after is actually a programmer... who can write that sort of thing.. Usually there are two ways - pay with beer or cheques or other sort of favours... :-) I can't see any way past it... you are in industrial-land... plenty of people out there who might want to help you... Quoting elliott-brennan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all, First, thanks to everyone who assisted with my previous exploits. It appears the reason I couldn't get the command to work was I had an earlier version of Imagemagick. Again, thanks to all, your assistance is very much appreciated - not least of all by the relatives who 'stare in amazement' at what FOSS can do in the multimedia arena :)) Now, I have another goal I'm seeking assistance with. I have two video streams. In this case (for my trial) they're identical moving picture streams. I've broken them down into stills: one_01.png to one000201.png two_01.png to two000201.png I want to superimpose stream two onto stream one. Stream two is a smaller image with a transparent border. In effect, this will be a video playing with a smaller version of itself in one corner. I thought this command would do it for me: for i in `seq 1 999`; do j=`printf %06d $i`; echo convert one_$j.png two_$j.png -composite convert$j.png; done but though it gives me the following message: convert one_01.png two_01.png -composite convert01.png I end up with no change in the end...and the 'end product' - convert01.png does not exist. Can someone please have look at what I'm doing and provide a hint/assistance with my obviously crap command? Many thanks, Patrick PS. I'm hopefully going to find the time to blog my vid exploits. In the meantime, if anyone is interested in some ideas about vid editing and effects, I'm more than happy to help out. -- Registered GNU/Linux User 368634 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Sydney Python 5th June meetup postponed... ended up being interesting
Hi All, I've never been to a python user group.. I thought I would go... It turned out to be quite interesting... had enough linux to keep me interested the whole time. They were showing off Amazon Web Services. What it appeared to be was that what they offer access to rack mounted machines that you can chuck your own linux image onto and (magically) boot. Not just one machine.. but maybe hundreds.. or thousands.. more than you need. I'm thinking how i can chuck some customer 3D image-magick rendering on to that array.. :-) Apparently the cost of this is very reasonable - and you get access to an almost unlimited number of processors. They showed a few things, ssh'ing into a machine.. some web server and database.. all very impressive. The point that they made was basically, play around with linux at work/home wherever, but if you want like 500 machines... don't buy them.. rent them on a computer farm.. they convinced me that the concept makes sense. It really is do your own *big* linux stuff at rock bottom prices... they quoted low prices like $2.50.. for a few hours of time or something.. After that, there was an excellent presentation by Mike from Attlassian on their Java clone of Ruby-on-Rails. Basically, what they are doing with that is cloning Ruby-on-Rails concepts (fast-web-app-development) using Java. Not such a bad idea. They showed a java derivative language called groovy (looked to me like python) and as a technology collaboration, the whole thing seemed to make some sense. The development is definitely world class and I'd just like to point out that we have local firms like Attlasian contributing and doing an excellent job. Pity we don't see more Australian tech firms operating in a bigger capacity overseas. Guess they need a bit more encouragement and pushing along.. Anyway - it was all good. David Quoting Dylan Jay [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Python lovers, First off, many thanks to Mark Rees for doing a great job organising SyPy until now. Normally SyPy is 1st Thursday of the month but it looks like we're going to have a special talk in a couple of weeks at google so this weeks meeting has been postponed. Stay tuned. It would be great to have a 2nd talk so if you've played with something pythonic lately and want to share, send me an email. So this week instead we've been welcomed to join AJUG on this Thursday. The talk on amazon ec2 should be interesting to anyone wanting to host any kind of application server (inc django, zope) Atlassian HQ 173-185 Sussex Street (cnr Market) Sydney CBD http://maps.google.com.au/maps?q=173+Sussex+Street,+Sydney+NSW WHEN: Thursday, June 5, 6:00pm. First talk starts at 6:30pm SPEAKERS: Talk #1: Running Java web apps on Amazon Web Services Peter McKeown Talk #2: Holy Grails Mike Cannon-Brookes And then we'll file out to parking lot for a python vs java good old fashioned no weapons rumble (joking). Or we could just go to the pub. http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ajug/message/7109 Dylan Jay -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Wine needs your help
Quoting Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED]: A later comment further down the thread says they have enough data for Windows XP but need more data about other Windows platforms (2000, 2003, Vista, Me 95) and would like to see re-runs when rc3 comes out. http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=563226cid=23530662 Happy to do that since I know some haunts with good numbers of old windows machines.. but where is the link to get the test software ? and how to submit ? (it appeared that was just a summary page) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: slug Digest, Vol 29, Issue 5
Quoting Darryl Barlow [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I had the pleasure some years ago of a cracker gaining access to a Linux box on my work Network running SME Server. I still do not know how the attacker located the machine. I presume it was probably through a port scan . I have seen the same thing with other installs of SME Server. The machines I saw it on were properly firewalled and not even visible. People I know have come to the conclusion that it was software already embedded within the system at distribution. It got activated in idle time. It was doing spam mass mailing. I wonder if this is what you experienced ? David -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: Compromised Linux box stories (Re: [SLUG] upgrading complicated installs)
Adrian Chadd wrote: The trouble is that the entry barrier for coding is so low, you can code without any clue. This very issue gave rise to some heated debate over on the LINK mailing list, which some of you attend. Many of us computer professionals were peeved by this low barrier to entry into the software industry. Computer software creation is not a certified profession like engineering. There are far toomany shiesters out there peddling crap software because they can. This gives rise to many many problems in IT. I guess I am lucky enough to see the other side of the story.. both here and overseas.. When I was growing up, there wasn't enough money for university. So accreditation was frankly impossible - only open to kids with richer parents. Those more privileged than myself. Through hard work.. way more than getting a degree.. I hacked out a career in software. Against all the odds.. Living I get from it now is not too bad.. Recently, in my travels and open source exploits, I have had the privilege to help young programming hopefuls in poor countries get runs on the board to enable them to then go off and get proper paid work in their own countries. They do some coding, i pay them and give them a reference. Often they go off to bigger and better things.. It's been tremendously rewarding... I wouldn't say that the quality of these young hopefuls is any less good than a university student of the same age At the end of the day... software is judged by whether it works for the customer or not. Not whether it has a long list of accreditations. If you want to find toomany shiesters out there peddling crap... I suggest you go look in the accreditation industry is it little more than selling pretentious scout badges to detract from the quality of the software ? Seriously... how many of the worlds best open source projects are properly accredited from the start ? please... lets keep the self balancing system. David -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: slug Digest, Vol 29, Issue 5
Quoting Daniel Pittman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Which release of SME Server was this? Having done some auditing, and worked with customers who ran SME Server systems for some years without incident -- but only on older versions -- I am surprised at this claim. It is some years ago now... As I recall the older versions didn't seem to have the problem. I only found the problem with the 'last two' versions... whatever numbers they were.. sorry can't remember. Do you have any supporting evidence for that? Alternately, did the folks you know write this up anywhere? We weren't able to track down the exact process that was doing the sending... Every time you touched the mouse.. or keyed 'ps ax' the sending seemed to stop. When it was spamming, we got disconnection threats from our isp... We noticed that if the machine was totally isolated to the local network it didn't send anything. If it had internet access then it would spam. I'm very certain that if one were to install it fresh from CD on a fresh machine it would start spamming again. The rogue code (I think) would still be there. These are just my opinions... i don't have any logs or enough evidence to catch it quite frankly it was too clever for me. David -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] simple text formatting language
Quoting Sonia Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Can anyone recommend a simple text formatting language/package? To explain a bit more: I want a formatting language that's text based (so it's easier to keep track of diffs in source control, and editable in vim), for doing stuff you'd usually do in Open Office Word Processor - bullet points, bold/italic, tables, etc. I'd like output in pdf, so it's easily printable cross-platform. I've briefly thought about things like LaTeX, postscript and Docbook, but they all seem overkill for what I want to do, and will take too much time to learn. Maybe have a look at xml and xslt... Do your content in xml, then process it with xslt... You would be surprised how many companies out there do their content in xml and then format it using one or more of a handful of different tools. The companies grow and grow and grow and I've seen them sold off for lots of money. The time you 'invest' in learning then becomes a knowledge asset. You can 'learn-slowly' with this stuff.. one good site is xmlpitstop.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: Strawpoll on Roles in the Governance of ICT
Quoting Marghanita da Cruz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You probably need to trawl through the ALP policy to figure out what the new federal government is planning but they seem to share your thoughts on efficencies if not industry development. http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/business/soa/Tanner-promises-to-lead-Razor-Gang-in-IT-carve-up/0,139023166,339288026,00.htm I don't think they are my thoughts IT across government is very complex and diverse. For example, the computing systems used within a Health Department (including hospitals) bear no resemblence to what might be needed within the Roads or Fisheries Department. There is no real opportunities for standardisation. The article is just rhetoric. It could mean anything. This is just gossip but what the heck. Whilst I was in Germany there was a lot of talk over beer at the decision in the UK to cut out (razor) all German software from the new Heathrow airport system. They did that and went for a more expensive solution from another continent - the one across the Atlantic.. Only problem was there was still German contractors working around on key bits of the system. I was told that some razoring of the code in the stored procedures was then done in retribution and eventually the Heathrow baggage system came to a complete halt. :-) Not funny if you are flying via Heathrow who knows if it is true but that is what some in Germany were claiming :-) Domestically, people in Germany are having other issues with their software.. like in their new cars.. of various known luxury brands... A new generation of software is coming out in all the embedded devices within the car... I was told of one old lady who bumped a flowerpot low down on the bumper below the sensor. That bumped a wire that damaged some bit with a computer in it. When the sensor was replaced, it was replaced with a slightly different version. That caused the main computer to shut down - necessitating the replacement of the main computer. Total damage bill came to 3,500 euro ($AU5000) - not because of parts - but because of software incompatibilities - for bumping a flowerpot. Hardware component was maybe $20. Car was only worth 9,000 euro. Another car/software problem I was told about was a guy who had some problem with his airconditioner. After several attempts to fix whatever the problem was with the climate control - he gave up. He got the mechanic to disconnect the a/c. Only problem was, the service computer dialed into the car-maker and rejected the modification and decided to shut the car down - rendering it inoperable. Lucky he was a lawyer and sued - he got a new car - but normal people are rarely so lucky. The lesson in these new cars - if something goes wrong - chances are getting higher that the whole car will need to be replaced. There is a real push over there to shorten the operating life of cars to about 3 years (down from about 8 years currently). Fortunately, in Australia, we don't have any locally owned car industry. So we don't have to worry about this kind of thing. :-) It is staggering traveling in Asia and Europe to see how low the technological bar has been set for Australia ... ok - we are slightly above africa... but not much.. well ho ho ho - long live the banana republic. I'll drink to the the seriousness of the Governance thing... David -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] search engine for company network (OT)
Hi Sebastian, One option worth looking at if you have some time is transferring your content across to a Content Management System (CMS). I had never used a CMS until I was asked to revue several of them for a Government Department. After seeing them in operation I was really impressed. There are several open source ones available, even including some excellent Australian ones like Mambo. Support an Australian CMS if you possibly can as they are competitive with the rest. The CMS that I evaluated was Plone. It is a python based CMS and runs on Linux. Quite easy to install and set up. Very quickly, I will explain what they do and how they work. You can setup hierarchical folders and sub-folders to store your documents. Maybe you might setup folders for clients. For every document (file) you can add a description, comments and other information. The comments and descriptions you add are searchable. You should be able to save your autocad files no problem. A sophisticated search window will let you do easy searches. Most CMS's allow you to attach previews, in png or jpeg format which may or not be helpful. When searching. From what I have seen, a CMS system like Plone or Mambo might just be what you are looking for. They really do offer incredible capabilities.. Sebastian Spiess wrote: hi all, I know this is not a 100% linux related question but it's open source baby :-) On our company network we have a daily growing number of documents in lots of folders and stuff. Most of it is organised in project folders and has reoccurring folder structures and file names. We are working hard on giving it more and clearer structure but sometimes it is still hard to find some files. I want to suggest to install a search engine which will index our existing files so that employees can crawl quickly though projects history. I've heard of the various desktop search engines like beagle, tracker and google desktop but are there open source engines which can be run on a server so that many can connect to it and search? Sadly we are relying on MS office (2001), AutoCAD (R16 to 2008) and other proprietary software in our daily work so those kind of files would need to be indexed. Does anyone has a idea, something I could investigate further? a software name? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: Strawpoll on Roles in the Governance of ICT
Yes hi Marghanita, Well the 2020 conference was a big surprise to me... actually asking australian young people what they want. jeeze ... did that catch me off guard... :-) If I am not mistaken we've never had this level of democracy in this country ever ... My reading of your link leaves me a bit unclear as to what you wish to achieve. Not sure if you know but in the NSW Department of Commerce there is a section known as GCIO, Government Chief Information Office. They are charged with making recommendations of technology to various NSW Departments. I know when I worked there, their PCs were so locked down, that all they were really good for was a web-browser and an email client. Something that linux could do just as well. Unfortunately, there was a big bias against local companies and products when I was there. I think the people in our Government really enjoy a trip off to Britain or Germany or the United States to buy stuff. Especially when they don't need to declare any of the wining and dining that they receive to icac. :-) No - received nothing - i just went out with friends. Yeah - right. In other countries, Government people work more closely with their local industry to develop core products that will advance everybodies cause. There are enough companies and enough people associated through the Sydney Linux User Group to push for change within our local Government. Moving some Linux development to young people in Universities is the kind of thing that you find in Germany and the United States. One would hope that places such as the Department of Commerce would try to facilitate that but they are not quite up to it - yet. Like I said, Government requirements for computing operating systems are not that big. A browser, file manager and an email client, and some other things would certainly do it. The real cost is what to do with the left over Australian public servants who will lose their free wine-dine and girly-bar passes in washington, san-Fransisco and London. And chears to Kevin Rudd.. who actually trained in China... was busted at a girly bar on the west coast a few years ago... . The twist - so unusual for australian politicians is that when they tried to blackmail him to get his life loyalty (essential for any up coming leader of the australian public service) - Kevin just left them in his smoke... After that he was able to come back to Australia and actually ask what is in the interests of Australian young people amazing really.. That we finally have a mature prime-minister and not a totally corrupted stooge is an amazing accomplishment... Whilst maybe not perfect.. it's a big step.. The truth is that if enough people lobbied Government in Australia.. from a Linux perspective... a lot more should be possible... Anyway... I head back to Germany in a few days... and observe the way they do things and get more reports on what our wayward public servants are up to in europe on their fact finding and purchasing missions David Quoting Marghanita da Cruz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Results are here: http://www.ramin.com.au/itgovernance/straw-poll-ICT-roles-responsibilities.shtml further comments welcome. Marghanita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Sending mail from within a highly locked down network
Quoting Mick Pollard [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 12:06:54 +1000 Mary Gardiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Background: my normal mail setup uses Postfix on my laptop to send outgoing mail. My university has blocked all outgoing ports except 80 (and they may have a transparent proxy in front of that) and 443 on their wireless network. My laptop cannot contact its normal mail servers on any port. (I happen to run those servers, but I already have processes listening on 80 and 443 on the relevant servers!) What will always work : 1) is a mobile-phone/pda with email built in (ie blackberry) 2) cheap telstra/3/optus usb internet adaptor plugged into your n/b Benefits of the above is that it won't violate your fair-use agreement that you have with the uni. But it will allow you to send whatever file it is that you need to send. Some people i know always get a connection using a vpn back to their server. Then they can do whatever it is they need... Can't tell you exactly how they do it... because i never bothered to ask for the details. But shouldn't be too tricky to figure out. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: Sending mail from within a highly locked down network
Quoting Mary Gardiner [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I wasn't clear in my original mail: I'm more interested in how people get their laptop to switch mail settings between inside horrible network and normal operation than I am in specifically what their inside-horrible-network settings are, because in this particular case I can use the university's mail server to get mail out (and I also have an SSH server on my own machine listening on 443, so if I couldn't I could do various SSH tunneling). It's just annoying to have to remember to re-configure my mail client (in this case, actually Postfix, but similar problems apply to any client, whether full MTA or not) when I am located at uni, and again when I leave. :-) well of course maybe a quick and nasty shell/python/perl script to change/update/swap your configuration file is what you need that would save you having to edit it manually every time... David -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: Open2020 and Strawpoll on Roles in the Governance of ICT was Re: [SLUG] Looking for speakers
Quoting Marghanita da Cruz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Sridhar and SLUGers, Video of the Open 2020 talks is now available at http://tomw.net.au/moodle/course/view.php?id=9 Sitting around watching Videos at a SLUG meeting might not be what you are after... and the files are pretty big MPEG4 but the content might be of interest. The submission to the main 2020 conference is now available here http://tomw.net.au/moodle/mod/resource/view.php?id=199 Lastly, I am interested in thoughts (to the list or offlist) of the specific role/contribution/responsibilities of various disciplines/professions in the governance of ICT. One of the difficulties with the Governance of ICT is to engage the right skills and knowledge, at the right time. Well forgive my cynicism but having good connections with people in the Australian Government I can decode some of the rhetoric that they use. Once you understand it, you might appreciate how precarious working in open source can be if you are an Australian citizen. First secret-word to debunk is Open-Market. This is a code-word term with a special meaning. Much like the term Free Trade Agreement it doesn't actually specify an open market, but a highly controlled and regulated one. Where preferential treatment is dished out no less or no more than in a protected market. Japan, Korea, UK, US are all examples of protected markets. Open-Market as used by the Australian government, tends to actually mean discrimination against local companies. ie favouring foreign firms. If you look at it this way, the Australian Government does whatever it can do to ensure that foreign companies have the best access to our markets. That is an Open Market Governance is about keeping policies in Australia which flush out the clever people into the higher economies. Let's just say across the pacific and back to Europe. Where proper commercialisation is better set to take place. Let's not read this and be too pessimistic.. maybe Kevin Rudd with his chinese perspective can help us triangulate our views. Funny how some overseas analysts are afraid of having a non-puppet character running the boat here.. But the indoctrination of Governance runs right through our buruaucracy and always runs back to the queen character. That is the way it was set up a hundred years ago and we are kidding ourselves if we think the system was changed somewhere along the line. It never was. Well as they say in China Any great journey must begin with the first step.. It is going to take a long time to unwind the governance system and string pulling system. Any young people in Australia should get on a plane and see how technology (OpenSource) is being managed in Schenzhen (China), HongKong, Korea, Japan and Germany. It is fascinating. As Australians, need to play a more active part in this world... maybe that is what this 2020 thing is all about... -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] whack MBR
Hi Peter, have you tried install-mbr ? eg: install-mbr -i n -p D -t 0 /dev/hda Quoting Peter Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dear Lazy Web, I am presently debugging PXE installs for our product. This involves a lot of round trips like this: 1. enter bios setup, disable disk boot 2. netboot and install Linux, when that reboots 3. notice the reboot, hit DEL, enable disk boot 4. shiny new linux boots, not perfect, figure our what went wrong, go back to step 1 The bios doesn't have a Press F12 to enter boot menu which would be particularly useful, because I could then leave disk boot enabled. So, dear reader, if you have got this far, how hard is it to add a Whack Master Boot Record to the *grub* boot menu, alongside memtest86, which would overwrite the MBR with all zero? That option, combined with a h/w reset, could be used to cause a fresh install. Has such a thing been written? what is the package name? Regards Peter Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] /\/\*http://miller.emu.id.au/pmiller/ PGP public key ID: 1024D/D0EDB64D fingerprint = AD0A C5DF C426 4F03 5D53 2BDB 18D8 A4E2 D0ED B64D See http://www.keyserver.net or any PGP keyserver for public key. You got the Dumb Bird sitting on your shoulder. -- Dr. Phil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Repartitioning XP to support dual booting...
Quoting jam [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Insert ubuntu CD, boot live, choose install, manual partition, shrink partition ... Ok thanks for that... (everyone) I haven't installed it that way for a long time and didn't know it worked. David -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Repartitioning XP to support dual booting...
Quoting Robert Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, 2008-03-14 at 12:13 +1100, Martin Visser wrote: Just a reminder if you want to help out at the 'Gong Uni installfest we could still do with a 2 or 3 more volunteers to help assist tomorrow I am told that XP now has some additional checks internally which make it a lot harder to run dual boot windows/linux; especially on notebooks. As I understand it, there is some extra information that needs to be adjusted on a partition and this requires a program such as provided by acronis. Are there any viable alternatives within FOSS ? My friends in germany all say go buy the windows tool.. are they right ? or is there another way ? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Repartitioning XP to support dual booting...
Are there any viable alternatives within FOSS ? My friends in germany all say go buy the windows tool.. are they right ? or is there another way ? Pretty much buncome. It JustWorks right up to a few day old purchase of Xp SP2 ok - no problem... so which tool reliably does it ? ie cfdisk etc ? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] open source management...
Quoting Rick Welykochy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The often touted response to this observation is that I should get into management. As if that is natural career growth path for someone talented in software design and development. Nothing of course could be further from reality. A good geek != a good manager. Heck, I even eschew project mgmt if I can avoid it. I find myself losing out out more and more jobs as I get older due to the almighty dollar and saving thereof. This is something a lot of people will face in their careers and I am with you. Well there's management and there's management... I guess I am fortunate enough to travel and spend time in Germany and bump heads with the Open Source and Linux guys over there. One thing I really admire is the German Project and Product management philosophy. Which to a large degree involves drinking beer, singing songs... long hours and precision workmanship.. My point is that even as the technical guys get older and slow down, they bring in young people to fill in the gaps and then concentrate on the precision components themselves. That enhances business growth and they pull in talent from Poland, Czechoslovakia, Croatia and neighbouring countries. I guess my point is that they have a culture which has a component of skills preservation from one generation to the next. We should see young people as an opportunity, spending time with them and passing on skills can make even old farts who should be out at pasture feel important David -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Seeing 2020
Quoting David Guest [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Does slug have a view on what, if any, should be the open source input to 2020 (http://www.australia2020.gov.au/topics/infrastructure.cfm)? lol... 2020 is a long way away. I mean come on we have a brain drain going on here Australia is known around the world as a place to find skilled workers. In return, Australia works to lure skilled workers back to replace the ones that are leaving. If you see inside many of our Government Departments, typically the open source projects they support are foreign ones. There are exceptions, which count for about 1%. Under the Federal Government and State Government, there has been millions of dollars promised but then leak away. This will keep on continuing... When people see the corruption they tend to leave the country... By contrast, India to it's credit... with more corruption has a wonderful software industry... while ours languishes. Things will remain much the same till 2020, except the offshore accounts of our politicians will continue to grow. I was listening to an ex-official in Canberra just this weekend describe it as an Open Market. Offshore companies will make the payments to your bank account anywhere you would like it in the world This is not new of course Australian Government officials have been on the foreign take for a long time and it is not going to change by 2020... and we wonder why our software industry is stuck in first gear.. Whilst this is true... the solution for us all is to act more globally ourselves... but when we do of course... work to grow equity... that is have more ownership of projects and attract foreign workers to work on projects that benefit us. Instead of simply sending young australians to work offshore on other nations projects. This is something that I really hope to see happen by 2020 David -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Seeing 2020
Quoting Erik de Castro Lopo [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Australian Government officials have been on the foreign take for a long time If you have real concrete evidence of this corruption why are you emailing the SLUG mailing list instead of contacting ICAC (Independant Commisson Against Corruption) or our somewhat flawed but still free press. If you have real info, any politician indulging in corruption *will* be investigated by ICAC and/or the press. lol - maybe i will and we wonder why our software industry is stuck in first gear. Never attribute to malice or corruption that which can more than adequately explained by stupidity and incompetence. In addition, this later explaination also works well for the majority of the business leaders of this country who even in 2008 still have little interest in or knowledge of IT. Well maybe you could run some training courses and help to set them straight maybe i might like to come along also.. take care David -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] image content management
Quoting Ben Donohue [EMAIL PROTECTED]: anyone have experience with an OS CMS primarily for images? I know there are heaps of CMS packages for docs. Something that can be searched for images with metadata, possibly scan images from various file server sources and give thumbnail images or whatever. Something based on LAMP. Anyone used/tried/found something that works really well for them? One CMS that I helped set up in the NSW Department of Commerce was Plone. It does images right out of the box and has quite a good publish model and javascript search capabilities. Plone is python based, and has a number of really cool add-ons for images on top of it's built-in functionality. Disadvantages are that it runs on its own python web server so you would have to set it up on your own machine. Or find one of the plone hosting companies. In a couple of instances, it manages an image library just fine... Regards David -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Restricting access to certain IP addresses with OpenVPN
Quoting Andre Kolodochka [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi sluggers, We have OpenVPN server running internally for employees to access our network from home. We have a request from a potential client to access some internal demo systems. They are happy to install and use OpenVPN client, however I won't be happy giving them the full access to our network. Hence the question. Is it possible to restrict access for certain users only to specific set of IP addresses? So everyone except this client will be able to use VPN to access everything on the network as usual and potential client will be able to access only boxes on those specific IP addresses? I'm interested in achieving exactly that also within our project. The situation that we have is that our remote support people want to access the server and then go out to individual (possibly windows) workstations on the network. They can do that at the moment by opening vnc on the server and using the remote desktop client to go to the client machines. That is not ideal, but it does work. It would be really handy to be able to run some sort of script on the server to allow this to happen easily. It's really good to here that there is actually so much expertise in this area on the mailing list. I am myself trying to come up with an easy gui interface, maybe in python, just to select all the hosts that would be available in the remote site. Click one and open access. So I am interested in what others are doing here... Regards David -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] report from last nights meeting?
anyone got any reports from last nights slug meet Here's one unofficial report... maybe others can give the correct version It was very nice that the people from Microsoft turned up and presented. I think that they put a lot of effort preparing the presentations and they all turned up on time - so it shows how dedicated they are to their jobs. Conversations drifted from important stuff to even more important stuff like xbox-360 game previews. There were good questions - and good answers. A lot of the discussion was around OpenXML and document formats and things like that. Possibly there were some tensions.. but the Microsoft people seemed to do a good job of setting a nice tone and they were really enjoying telling how good life working at microsoft was and all the benefits of being there. It was quite good The lesson to open sourcers : make your software easier to use and all will be well David -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Call for the likeminded.. Assistance with Local Linux Distro
Quoting Erik de Castro Lopo [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Quoting Rick Welykochy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You haven't explained why Australia in particular needs a Linux distro. Well, we haven't got a single one that I know of for a start... :-( That is a little dissappointing... No, but Canonical/Ubuntu has significant proportion of Australian employees, theres a large number of Australians involved with the Debain project, a large number of well known and respected Linux kernel hackers etc etc. Australia is doing quite well really. Yes, absolutely true, we have lots of clever Australians. The big problem is is that we don't develop leadership or equity here like they do in Britain, US, Germany or France. I've just come back from Germany... I love working there. Their philosophy is completely different... They drink beer, smoke cigars and sing song and invite workers from surrounding countries to come in and work at low rates to make them wealthy at the end... it is the Germans who get the credit for being clever and not the workers who helped them get there.. We need to be similar and develop equity here in Australia Anyway.. don't get me started on the great Australian brain drain... Suffice to say it is time for us to own our own boats when it comes to technology... Asking our young people to always row for others as hired labour is not something I am so comfortable with. As older people, we need to be creating the boats into which our young people can go into the world and be proud to sail on... I've worked in Germany on technology.. but I am not sure creating workers for other countries is a good mark at doing well... if that is the case then the Philippines and Indonesia are doing even better.. :-) they create more workers than us :-) do we really want to keep going that way ? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Call for the likeminded.. Assistance with Local Linux Distro
Quoting Alex Samad [EMAIL PROTECTED]: why not go the debian/ubuntu method. Start with a base debian build, create a custom deb package (sort of a meta package) that pulls in all the relevant other debs and does a config. You could setup you own repo and your done. Well another deb for each site to do the actual customer customisations. Hi Alex, yeah exactly... I have actually checked out all the distros that I could and stumbled upon DSL or damn-small-linux. I'm customising that. That is a knoppix/debian derivative, that boots very easily and has a lot of hardware support. I think for the server version we are doing, it doesn't need a repository.. but can use the dsl/knoppix/debian packages, you get to pull down stuff off the debian repositories. I'm thinking if somebody wants something outside the box, get a debian package. Having used debian for sometime, i can't see any way to beat their package repository. But linking to it seems to be pretty sensible. Take care David -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Call for the likeminded.. Assistance with Local Linux Distro
Quoting Rick Welykochy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You haven't explained why Australia in particular needs a Linux distro. Well, we haven't got a single one that I know of for a start... :-( That is a little dissappointing... beyond that.. there appears to be a niche within small IT companies for a Server product that can do the following: - boot up and install quickly (5 mins) - provide file sharing, and maybe CMS - call *designated-support-firm* and setup a VPN link so *support-firm* can RDP or VNC and fix things on any of the machines (extra cost) - have some sort of backup facilities or service. - compete with the redmond server product So it is a little different than a distro per se. When I speak to small computer firms, most say that small businesses would pay them $500 per year for such a facility. I am sure many of us on the list (me included) can vouch for many successful deployments of, say, Debian-based systems without the need for a local distro. Yes. Debian rules.. but it isn't so easy to setup unless you go for knoppix or ubuntu. I would say that I would be challenged if asked to setup debian from scratch on a new machine with samba and networking all running if i had a $500 budget. but I do know having something based on a live-cd that is all pre-prepared is viable. Regards David -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Call for the likeminded.. Assistance with Local Linux Distro
Quoting Phil Scarratt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I simply use the server version of ubuntu and apt-get any other extras I may or may not need depending on the function of the server. Yes.. but it takes some time to do all that... I guess you are talking about not having to do the extra install the other things? Exactly.. Have all the other things ready, even on a live-cd to give to a customer. All they do is insert the CD in some-machine, and it creates a vpn link back with all the packages loaded.. ready for the support-staff to admin... in addition, the support-staff can use RADMIN/RDP or VNC or whatever to support all the windows machines on the lan also. That will create support opportunities and the chance to build up ongoing monthly incomes, depending on how many businesses the support-company can sign up. I know a lot of IT-support companies would like to use linux a lot more but the problem is that the current distros aren't really configured in such a way that enables them to make money from them directly. That is the big reason why i think there is space for a distro/derivative. I honestly just don't know enough people (spend my time either hacking, or at sales meetings).So I wanted to bounce these ideas. David -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Call for the likeminded.. Assistance with Local Linux Distro
Quoting Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thanks everyone... Nice to get some responses... I'll just answer offlist.. Take care David -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Call for the likeminded.. Assistance with Local Linux Distro
Hello everybody.. I have stumbled into something which I think is too big for me and I am looking to reach out to people who might find some value. By Trade, I am a Programmer/Project Manager. Last year I worked at the Department of Commerce and they were talking about this and that with Open Source.. they kindof gave me the idea that a corporate linux to bung on servers like redhat would be useful out there. I have personally liked SLAMPP, SME-Server, Redhat... Debian... etc When I talk to some businesses in small business land and they are all interested in servers half the price of redmond with dial in support ability. If it was Linux then they don't mind either. Here in Australia, we are so lucky. We have everything. I think we could do a really server based distro for the world stage. The questions that I have are: - are there enough experts here to do it ? - is there a will ? - how to organise it ? My general observations are: - needs to be debian based - start with an SME server (FileServer 2008) - make it commercially viable and supportable Ok... if you have any comments go for it maybe I need to offer some free beer or other bribes but places like China... it is growing rapidly... having our own distro there is a sensible thing for us to be doing David -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: slug Digest, Vol 24, Issue 35
I have seen those problems also. If you are certain that you have the correct driver (this must be right) then try supplying a username and password. It is quite possible that 'nobody' doesn't have the correct access with samba for the printer share to be able to print. Within Samba, it checks username/passwords.. even to print.. Cleanest way is to make sure you have the user registered on the debian etch printing machine with smbpasswd. In the print administration, click and select the log in with a user option if you need to test with a know userid/password. Regards David Quoting dbmoodb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have a problem printing from an ubuntu gutsy box. I am trying to print to a scx-4200 printer shared by a debian etch server. My other debian etch computers can all print and two windows xp boxes can as well. However, the ubuntu box does not want to print. I have sudo aa-compain ed about cups, turned off apparmor and it still will not work. The error cupsys provides is Can not get the ticket cache for ...blah (where blah is my username). file=/usr/sbin/cupsd [16361.151404] audit(1200900536.960:146): type=1502 operation=inode_permission requested_mask=r denied_mask=r name=/var/run/samba/unexpected.tdb pid=21447 profile=/usr/sbin/cupsd [16361.151441] audit(1200900536.960:147): type=1502 operation=file_mmap requested_mask=r denied_mask=r name=/var/run/samba/unexpected.tdb pid=21447 profile=/usr/sbin/cupsd [16361.243346] audit(1200900536.960:148): type=1502 operation=inode_permission requested_mask=r denied_mask=r name=/var/run/samba/unexpected.tdb pid=21447 profile=/usr/sbin/cupsd [16361.243385] audit(1200900536.960:149): type=1502 operation=file_mmap requested_mask=r denied_mask=r name=/var/run/samba/unexpected.tdb pid=21447 profile=/usr/sbin/cupsd D [21/Jan/2008:18:49:45 +1100] PID 22418 (/usr/lib/cups/cgi-bin/printers.cgi) exited with no errors. D [21/Jan/2008:18:49:47 +1100] cupsdReadClient: 8 POST / HTTP/1.1 D [21/Jan/2008:18:49:47 +1100] cupsdAuthorize: No authentication data provided. D [21/Jan/2008:18:49:47 +1100] CUPS-Get-Printers D [21/Jan/2008:18:49:47 +1100] cupsdProcessIPPRequest: 8 status_code=0 (successful-ok) D [21/Jan/2008:18:49:47 +1100] cupsdReadClient: 8 POST / HTTP/1.1 D [21/Jan/2008:18:49:47 +1100] cupsdAuthorize: No authentication data provided. D [21/Jan/2008:18:49:47 +1100] Get-Printer-Attributes ipp://localhost/printers/PDF D [21/Jan/2008:18:49:47 +1100] cupsdProcessIPPRequest: 8 status_code=0 (successful-ok) D [21/Jan/2008:18:49:47 +1100] cupsdReadClient: 8 POST / HTTP/1.1 D [21/Jan/2008:18:49:47 +1100] cupsdAuthorize: No authentication data provided. D [21/Jan/2008:18:49:47 +1100] Get-Printer-Attributes ipp://localhost/printers/zelda D [21/Jan/2008:18:49:47 +1100] cupsdProcessIPPRequest: 8 status_code=0 (successful-ok) D [21/Jan/2008:18:49:47 +1100] cupsdReadClient: 8 POST / HTTP/1.1 D [21/Jan/2008:18:49:47 +1100] cupsdAuthorize: No authentication data provided. D [21/Jan/2008:18:49:47 +1100] Get-Printer-Attributes ipp://localhost/printers/zles D [21/Jan/2008:18:49:47 +1100] cupsdProcessIPPRequest: 8 status_code=0 (successful-ok) On the debian etch server I get the following errors - Jan 21 06:45:16 localhost RECV[5902]: lp: Check_for_missing_files: FAILED 'hfA5$ and 194 process=6197 opening device '/dev/usb/lp0' at 2008-01-21-14:23:31.661 ## A= [EMAIL PROTECTED] number=194 process=6197 printing job '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' at 2008-01-21-14:23:31.662 ## A= [EMAIL PROTECTED] number=194 process=6197 processing 'dfA194localhost.localdomain', size 39189, format 'f', IF filter 'none - passthrough' at 2008-01-21-14:23:31.664 ## [EMAIL PROTECTED] number=194 process=6197 printing finished at 2008-01-21-14:23:31.865 ## [EMAIL PROTECTED] number=194 process=6197 accounting at end at 2008-01-21-14:23:31.866 ## [EMAIL PROTECTED] number=194 process=6197 finished '[EMAIL PROTECTED]', status 'JSUCC' at 2008-01-21-14:23:31.867## A= [EMAIL PROTECTED] number=194 process=6197 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: job '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' printed at 2008-01-21-14:23:31.872 ## [EMAIL PROTECTED] number=194 process=6196 job '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' saved at 2008-01-21-14:23:31.874 ## A= [EMAIL PROTECTED] number=194 process=6196 lp: Check_for_missing_files: FAILED 'hfA501' lp: no permission to print at 2008-01-21-17:45:16.962 ## A=NULL number=0 process=5902 Oddly enough if i change the permissoins of the other shares i have ( the actual file permissions) the other computers cannot print either. (they require to be a user name blah-) I think that it maybe that nobody or nogroup will not work because nobody isn't part of the group lp or lpadmin perhaps. I shall test this out. If anyone else has any ideas please respond. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Windows Home Servers - the book for children AND the website
Here is the book, teaching children about Windows home servers: http://gizmodo.com/photogallery/microserveces08/1000446153 And here is the website it comes from: http://www.stayathomeserver.com Watch the videos. They're brilliant! Yeah - the presentations are very effective. Since I am kindof working on a very similar sort of thing and have cebit coming up... I'm thinking I should do something along similar lines for my corpnix project which is intended to be quite similar.. :-) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Backup from Windows files to Linux
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi there, I am not sure if this is possible. Is there away for a Linux PC to be able to back up files from a Windows 2003 Small Business Server. I would prefer to use Ubuntu as it is quick to install but the backup application would need to have a gui and be able to do full and incremental backups. Hi Lee, yes, of course there are many ways... easiest is to use the built in backup program in 2003sbs to do the backup aross to your linux machine using some samba folder shares. There is a GUI built into the 2003SBS which will have the common options. Pretty much everything is there that you need. Regards David -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
