RE: [RCSE] F3J Team Raffle/ Merchandise Last Call
Hi Jim, Thanks for YOUR EFFORT as TM. I don't think many realize the effort needed as a successful TM and especially as Fund Raiser! Great Job Tom Copp Composite Specialties www.f3x.com http://www.f3x.com/ 949-645-7032 -Original Message- From: Jim Monaco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 1:12 PM To: 'RCSE' Subject: RE: [RCSE] F3J Team Raffle/ Merchandise Last Call DOH - the website is http://www.usf3jteam.com http://www.usf3jteam.com/ Thanks - Jim _ From: Jim Monaco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 11:11 AM To: 'RCSE' Subject: [RCSE] F3J Team Raffle/ Merchandise Last Call Hi folks - I am back from Turkey and it was a great event. The senior team did well despite some plane difficulties and the juniors were terrific taking home the team silver medal and the 2nd and 3rd place in the world. I will be spending several evenings tearing up tickets for the drawing. If you want in, you need to get your orders in now. I still have a pretty large stock of tee shirts that we will be selling with free shipping. We will only be shipping out items that we have in stock. We are out of the polo's and will not have any more. We don't have a magic real-time inventory system, so ff you order something and it is out of stock, I will refund your complete payment. The website will be closed for further ordering at 5:00 MDT on July 11th. Thanks for all of your support. The team and I really appreciated the cheers of support, the donations, and the merchandise purchases. YOU make it possible for us to be successful! Thanks again. Jim
RE: [RCSE] US F3J Team Merchandise to Stay Available
Keep it open Jim, I know many on RCSE will wake up early each day to check out the scores and that will sometimes will stoke the fire! Good Luck!!! Tom Copp Composite Specialties www.f3x.com http://www.f3x.com/ 949-645-7032 -Original Message- From: Jim Monaco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 7:51 AM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] US F3J Team Merchandise to Stay Available Thanks to everyone for your support. I have decided to not close the F3J merchandise website this Friday as planned. We are making great progress on the goal and are currently about $1500 from our initial budget. Our last uncontrollable expense will be excess baggage charges for our models for the trip to Turkey. I had budgeted a substantial increase from the previous cycle, but the outlook of hitting that number is looking glum. Last cycle only a few pilots got dinged with excess baggage and they were only in the $75-$125 range. This year we have one more pilot and the excess baggage situation looks pretty grim. We have heard of the possibility of charges as high as $500 each way for our model boxes. What actually happens at the airports is really up to the gate agents and skycaps. We are hoping for some mercy, but need to be prepared for the worst. As a result I am keeping the merchandise site open though our return when we will have the final numbers for our expenses. It feels like a small miracle to be as close to the goal as we are and we want to thank everyone that has supported us, and there are too many to name individually, but between the donors listed on the website and each and everyone that has purchased raffle tickets or merchandise, we are eternally grateful! If you have not purchased any tickets or merchandise, we would still appreciate your support. And should be overachieve, any remaining funds will be placed in the team fund for the benefit of the next cycle. Tickets and merchandise can be purchased at: http://www.usf3jteam.com http://www.usf3jteam.com/ Thanks a bunch. Jim Monaco US F3J Team Manager 2008
RE: [RCSE] 60 F3J contest at Dayton Sunday
Sounds like fun Ed! Tom Copp Composite Specialties www.f3x.com http://www.f3x.com/ 949-645-7032 -Original Message- From: Ed Franz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 3:49 PM To: Soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] 60 F3J contest at Dayton Sunday Hello all, This Sunday I am holding a 60 F3J contest at Dayton Ohio. All flights will be off of mini Hi-Starts, so it's time to bring out that old javelin H/L to fly again! The contest will be in an F3J rules type MoM format. So dust off that old H/L, put a hook on it and come join the fun. The contest will start around 11, I will be there around 9 so that you can trim out your plane on the Hi-Starts. Ed Franz
RE: [RCSE] TMSS Spring Challenge Goes MOM!!
Nice!! MOM RULES!! Tom -Original Message- From: Glaab, Louis J. (LARC-D205) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 9:38 AM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] TMSS Spring Challenge Goes MOM!! Good afternoon! After some discussion and thought, the Man-On-Man format was selected for Expert and Sportsflyer for our May TMSS Spring Challenge contest in Smithfield, VA. This was a result of wanting to provide a meet that provided the most amount of soaring pleasure and satisfaction to our soaring guests. Note that the LSF-Ladder event will still be run in very Open Winch format as part of the meet with Novice and Juniors flying in that event along with the LSF-Ladder competitors. Consider yourself CHALLENGED!!! More information at: http://www.soartmss.com/id19.html Register at: http://www.flyesl.com/ Many thanks! Josh Glaab. Office phone: (757)864-1159 Home phone: (757)850-3971 Cell phone: (757)771-1073 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] OT Full Scale Stuff
Nice! That's a GREAT looking Glasair! Tom Copp Composite Specialties www.f3x.com 949-645-7032 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 7:49 AM To: Soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] OT Full Scale Stuff Hi Guys: Here's some fun flying stuff to whet your appetite as flying season approaches. Last weekend, Paul and I did a presentation to the local EAA chapter covering our full scale building and restoring adventures dating back to 1962! Here's a link to the videos we presented: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=47E218790F5CA813 WARNING -- Paul is topless in the Champ video! See you all at the Cincinnati Soaring Electric May Memorial -- if not sooner. Thermals, Rudy -- Rudy Siegel, AMA 131126, CD Civis Aerius Sum RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] JR 9303 Flap Programming Question
OK to set the Trailing edge in flight modes all you do is switch to the FM you want and push the little trimmers on the top face of the 9303 the direction you want the ailerons and flaps to go in that FM. These are the ones on either side of the JR logo. That's all there is to it. Once you switch back to Cruse mode the TE will return. Tom Copp Composite Specialties www.f3x.com 949-645-7032 My problem is that I try adjusting the flaps in the flap rates and camber mix menus, but I don't see any change in the flaps as I move the various switches for the various flight modes. I'm trying to program a Berg 4l, berg 7 channel, and a jr700 rx. Is there something that I'm missing? I've tried to program this like I would my JR 6102, but this is an entirely different beast. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Fuselage Mold Making Supplies / Advise
If you want to make a professional mold easily try this; 1. Your master is perfect. 2. Your master has a hard finish like catalyzed polyester paint or urethane and a high polish. 3. Make a splitter board. Add locating balls or pins and bushings to the flange. 4. Make a Steel frame of 1 X 2 welded around the perimeter of the plug offset by 2.00 5. Use a good carnauba release wax, wax and buff. Let cure and repeat 4x. 6. Use Epoxy gelcoat. Add about .025 thick and even coverage. Apply with a 1/2 brush and start from one end always keeping a wet edge. 7. Mix thick (like mayonnaise) slurry of epoxy and milled fibers and attach the clean, sanded frame to the gelcoat. 8. Now the fun part. Mix a slow cure epoxy laminating resin with clean white sand. The kind used in ash trays. You can buy at the tile store. Mix the slurry until you can't add any more sand to solution. 9. Pack the sand over the gel coat while the gel coat leaves a finger print but does not come off to your finger. Pack a mix about 1.5 thick. 10. Let cure for 2 days and flip over and repeat the process. The mold is only as good as the master; the edge and parting line are only as good as the splitter. Take your time on the master and splitter. It pays off in the end 100 fold. It will take less than a gallon of resin to make a 55 glider fuselage mold. US Composites seams easy to buy from. I havent shopped there so I dont know first hand. Tom Copp Composite Specialties www.f3x.com 949-645-7032 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] 9303 Ham Module
Hi Guys, I have a NIB 03 Ham TX Module here for the 9303/10X for sale. Email me off the list if your interested. Tom Copp Composite Specialties www.f3x.com http://www.f3x.com/ 949-645-7032
RE: [RCSE] EZ glider setup?
Out West we: Can sand bumps but keep them visible. Haven't noticed any improvement in flight. LE with tape is OK. Taps as a single layer and not 100 plies for changing the airfoil. Stock Control size only. Carbon spar OK Move Tow hook. We normalize the carbon spar by using a light zip start so no winch wars and a stock EZ launches as well as a modified EZ on these. If you winch the Carbon spar is the ticket. Tom Copp Composite Specialties www.f3x.com 949-645-7032 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 5:05 PM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] EZ glider setup? So what's legal for EZ gliders? Sanding mold bumps? Protecting leading edges with tape? Can we make the control surfaces larger??? I find the response to be sluggish.. I am running a 2 cell lipo on the stock motor setup, climb is not fantastic, but good enough, what is the consensus for the best setup??? Mark Mech www.aerofoam.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Re: Airfoil flight comparison( HN-216)?
Are these the same guys that had an issue with what end of the chute to use last week and needed the colored rings? Tom -Original Message- From: Anker Berg-Sonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 7:32 AM To: David Webb Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] Re: Airfoil flight comparison( HN-216)? David, Launching without turning the transmitter on is a symptom of a greater problem. You must build a routine that you consistently follow each and every time you launch, otherwise you will make this and a bunch of other mistakes. Most of the problems occur if you let yourself be rushed, either by external circumstances, or by a desire to join the gaggle in the monster thermal just off the launch. There are so many ways launches can go wrong that your proposed device may save you from one problem, but the others will be sure to bite you instead. As a reformed sinner myself I speak from bitter experience. Anker David Webb wrote: Gentlemen, I would like your feedback on something I created last season in a bit of a whim. I have been competing at various TD tasks in the Northwest over the last 3 years. Over this time I have witnessed far too many launches where the pilot after the fact admitted that he/she did not turn on the aircraft. Needless to say most of the aircraft were lost or seriously damaged. So in search of a solution I went to a local electronics shop and asked a young guy if he could give me a hand designing a safety component that might help avoid this scenario. Basically we designed a switch with a small tilt sensor and some latching circuitry. The result is this: If you remember to turn on the plane the switch works as expected. The plane powers on and off as it would normally. If you turn OFF the plane and tilt the aircraft in the desired launch angle ( this is set by the pilot) the plane turns ITSELF on and stays on until the circuit is reset by disconnecting / interrupting the battery. The draw is tiny and the circuit and switch itself 1xx .25 or double the size of a typical 20 amp RC switch. I have tested the product in the lab and i know a shop that could likely get the size down to half its current size or close to the size of a standard switch This would of course cost some money out of pocket but I am not sure if the target market is too limited to bother creating this solution for. For the most part, the elite pilots I watch either don't even use a switch or are very disciplined in their launch methodology. The target market is more appropriately general pilots who may be approaching the more senior years as well as new pilots. What do you think people? At your local club have you seen anyone toss an un-powered glider to its death? Would a product like this be of value as a replacement for the standard on off switch for your more senior members or new eager soaring enthusiasts? David Webb RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Need Help!
Is this a 2.4ghz F3B Skeeter with RDS in a Man on Man social event issue flying in Grey cup?? Tom -Original Message- From: Dan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 4:57 PM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] Need Help! How do you safely make a downwind turn and land a Skeeter with no skeg? DW _ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51438/*http:/www.yahoo.com/r/hs your homepage.
RE: [RCSE] Contest Format
Wow lots of stuff here. In general contests outside the USA are well attended. Contests attendance inside the USA is diminishing. Why? Outside the USA they typically fly F3J or a local version of F3J with F3B winches that the pilots supply btw. They are strict about being on the line in time; they don't soften the task for anyone. They play hardball over there and their attendance is thriving. Inside the USA most of our formats are the same since the late 70's while our models have evolved over the last 30+ years the contests have not. Our attendance is shrinking, we give in to a sandbagger, and we don't want to change anything to keep the pilots we have coming back. We don't push ourselves to try anything new and learn something. Sure the new guy has lots to learn starting from zero but after 6 months what is next? Guys soaring is not difficult. How many of us are significantly better pilots after the first 2 or 3 years? What have you learned the last 3 years? We quit flying if the conditions get a little rough. You can choose your issue all day long as why we get board or why attendance is shrinking. BTW, Each and every contest I have been to is a social event! That's the nature of humans. We tend to have fun when we can. I would say lets play a little hardball and push our skills a bit and move up a peg. The USA was at one time a soaring leader we sure can't say that anymore. Tom Copp Composite Specialties www.f3x.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Contest Format
Yes, I see the same thing too. The Europeans make F3J and F3B the F1 of soaring and because they do they bring in the new guys. You will get your butt kicked when you start out and what do they do to help you? Nothing.its sink or swim. The best teacher I ever had was a good ass kicking! Getting old? Can't see? Tough, move over old man there are 50 new guys waiting to replace you. No one is complaining about buying a winch or model and in many cases it's more difficult over there to come up with Toy Money plus the cost to travel to a comp is expensive. Yes sure Europe is small but have you ever drove from Spain/France to Germany? Shoot the toll fees will exceed the cost of fuel (at 8.00+ a gallon!) yet contests are full and the parties are well worth the effort. The USA TD contest pilots are dieing. I mean literally dieing (RIP) no new blood. The writing has been on the wall for years.. Its time to read the wall. Tom -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 9:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] Contest Format A note in support of Tom's comments, I noticed that the Munich F3k Contest registration opened up last week. I was considering going over and was trying to organize it with some friends. The competition was full in 3 days 110 confirmed 15 on a back up list. I have seen this over and over in European Events. I have also noticed a younger crowd showing up. My Best regards Larry Wow lots of stuff here. In general contests outside the USA are well attended. Contests attendance inside the USA is diminishing. Why? Outside the USA they typically fly F3J or a local version of F3J with F3B winches that the pilots supply btw. They are strict about being on the line in time; they don't soften the task for anyone. They play hardball over there and their attendance is thriving. snip
[RCSE] paging: mike lachowski
Hi Mike can you send me an email with your ph number I need a favor. Tom Copp Composite Specialties www.f3x.com http://www.f3x.com/ 949-645-7032
RE: [RCSE] Re: JR 9303 Set-Up Help
You may like this also: http://www.f3x.com/htdocs/howto/9303.htm Tom Copp Composite Specialties www.f3x.com 949-645-7032 -Original Message- From: sleep4 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 9:37 AM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] Re: JR 9303 Set-Up Help Try these links. http://www.horizonhobby.com/Articles/Article.aspx?ArticleID=1459 http://www.horizonhobby.com/Articles/Article.aspx?ArticleID=1432 -- sleep4 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Discounts on JR 2.4 systems ?
Hello, JR products are MAP priced so no one can advertise below a set cost. Big Lift! Tom Copp Composite Specialties JR Dealer! www.f3x.com 949-645-7032 -Original Message- From: Doug McLaren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 9:02 AM To: Steve Gibson Cc: RCSoaring Exchange Subject: Re: [RCSE] Discounts on JR 2.4 systems ? On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 10:22:28AM -0600, Steve Gibson wrote: |Does anybody discount the 2.4 JR 9303 systems below Horizons direct |order pricing ? The best price I'm aware of is at http://www.toddsmodels.com/, where a X9303 2.4 A/S Tx w/DSM 9 Ch Rx No SXS Mode 2 is $530. I believe the Horzion price for that is $630. Looks like shipping is $11. The general sentiment that I've seen about Todd's Models on rcgroups has been very positive. -- Doug McLaren, [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] F3X is off to Visalia!
Hi Guys, F3X is off to Visalia this weekend with a carload of special deals. I am clearing out a bunch of models. Get to the cash machine Come on by and get see what we have. I will be moving a bunch of park flyers, E-flight models and accessories. Some GAS Too! Shadow F3J, Experience Pro V and X tail. Artemis X tails! I will drop in a few F3F models as well. Come see the Aspirin DLG and get your order in for the next delivery! SEIKO stop watches! Come buy early before they are gone! See ya there! Tom Copp Composite Specialties www.f3x.com 949-645-7032
RE: [RCSE] Supra #42 problem
Thats all holding your wings on Guys, Zenith carbons in stock call NOW! Tom Copp Composite Specialties www.f3x.com 949-645-7032 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 2:51 PM To: soaring@airage.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Supra #42 problem Supra Enthusiasts, Check out the latest failure mode shown on my web site (www.hilaunch.com) under photos. The beginning of the problem showed at Phoenix when the rear of the CF cap that holds the wing attachment nuts came loose. I applied a generous amount of epoxy, but that repair did not solve the problem. On a landing yesterday, the entire wing with the hold down bolts popped from the fuse. Fortunately the landing had been completed and there was no additional damage. If you have a good idea about how to repair this problem, send me an email. Don Richmond San Diego, CA (Pensacola, FL today) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.hilaunch.com
RE: [RCSE] Epoxied servo techniques
This is easy, do a test. Find an old servo with a clean case. Mix up some 5 minute and micro about like mayonnaise. Put about a quarter size blob on the servo case side and squish it to a piece of smooth clean 1/4 plywood and you want to push down so the servo contacts the wing but not forces the wing flat in one area, push down so the epoxy just rolls out all sides about 1/16. If you put too much then you get more roll out. So push down and get the squeeze out and then just hold light pressure until it cures. Now about 2 hours later try and pull it out. Now sand the servo case with 150 grit, clean and repeat the test. The un-sanded servo will hold well for most guys and easily come out in a hard landing or when you want it to. The sanded servo will stay put in a hard landing but still come out when you want it to but will take a little more force. Also add some 8oz glass or carbon to the wing skin to stiffen the servo area if it has not been already done for you before you epoxy in servos. Tom Copp Composite Specialties www.f3x.com 949-645-7032 -Original Message- From: Corey Groves [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 8:14 AM To: Soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] Epoxied servo techniques That is something I know I would be very interested in. Based on the comments here there seem to be a huge variance in techniques when going for the glue-in approach. I have only seen two variations where the servo is glued in using a bed of epoxy and micro balloons and is either bare or wrapped in masking tape. But some people are describing servos that pop out of the epoxy easily and others are describing needing to grind the servos out. Can those who have had really good luck with gluing there servos in provide some insights? Thanks for all the information, Corey RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Gluing Servos v.s. Servo Frames
I epoxy all my wing servos in but I do sand the case w/150 grit to get a bite on the case, I never use tape or heat shrink over the servo, just sand to a dull finish and spooge in. There are many photos of the spooge in instillation on my site www.f3x.com in the how to build section. Use good servos and land with your flaps up and they will not need fixing! If at a contest you did need to fix one they go right back in the custom molded spooge pocket with a finger wipe of 5 minute or a squirt of thick CA. Usually no re-trimming needed. Tom Copp Composite Specialties www.f3x.com 949-645-7032 -Original Message- From: Daryl Perkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 7:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Corey Groves; soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] Gluing Servos v.s. Servo Frames These frames weigh next to nothing and can be glued into the wing with medium or black CA. I think I'll just start taping a 1/2 ounce of lead to every servo for absolutely no reason... ;-) I enjoyed that thread of a few weeks ago where the engineer, don't know his name, talked about getting all the unnecessary weight out of his model. I'm pretty much the same way, without getting nuts about it. I put my servos in with a mixture of 5 minute and micro-balloons (Peanut butter thick mixture). I do not prepare the servo by sanding it or cleaning so it will stick to the epoxy mixture. They pop right out if need be. And there is a little pocket remaining to drop the next servo right in. Of course you can wrap the servo in masking tape, saran wrap, or even put mold release on it... In my Insanity, (a bagged wing POS), I did have Dave Hauch put a false bottom of ply into the servo hole, since the Airtronics new wing servos have little mounting lugs... but even as many times as I've slammed that thing into the ground, never had to change a servo. So I won't mess with that in the next one. I realize the anal retentives in the group need the install to be pretty. After the servo covers go on... who can see it? My main question remains... what are you guys doing to destroy your servos? Instead of bullding all of this unnecessary crap into your airplanes, why not learn to NOT break the darn things??? Just thinkin' out loud... D __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] NEW PIKE PERFECT
A Samba Jane, You have to love the mini skirt and GoGo boots in the snow! Now when is my trip back to Czech? Oh yea! April baby!! Tom Copp Composite Specialties www.f3x.com 949-645-7032 http://www.skipmillermodels.com/pikeperfect.php RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] RE: Best airline sailplane case
FedEx Express is better at paying than FedEx Ground. They are really different companies. Check this out. DHL broke a shipment of mine and called me because they wanted to pay only the wholesale cost of the model even though I insured it for invoice value. What's up with that? I told them I was factory direct to the customer and had no resellers in the USA. After a long wait and fight they finally paid the insured amount.well almost the insured amount they deducted the shipping and handling fees so now I am out 2x shipping costs to the customer. Every shipping company has horror stories! Tom Copp Composite Specialties www.f3x.com 949-645-7032 -Original Message- From: glide [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 8:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; soaring@airage.com Subject: RE: [RCSE] RE: Best airline sailplane case My understanding is that FedEx will not honor an insurance claim if the item damaged during transit is a model airplane. I found that out when I initiated a claim with FedEx when a molded R/C sailplane was received damaged from a vendor. Fortunately my credit card company sided with me and I got a chargeback until the vendor made good on the damage. Best regards, Al Battad - #506981 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] RE: ??? (Digital SLR)
I have a FZ5 also like I posted earlier and LOVE it. It is almost as fast as a DSLR shot to shot. If the new FZ30 was out when I bought my FZ5 I might have got that instead because the zoom control is like a DSLR mounted on the lens, it also has all manual controls if you like that option. Point shoots are very cool because they are 1-piece = no dust in the camera or on the sensor and you can get a quality fast F2.8 lens and VR (Vibration Reduction) at a low price with a PS but the real world problem for me is speed from shot to shot like we do in RC action shots. If that bugs you either get a DSLR or a Panasonic FZ5 or FZ30 or the Fuji S7000, or Canon's S2 IS. There are so many out there. Look at http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/specs.asp and read the timing specs for the camera you're interested in and pay attention to the shot to shot specs. Anything over 2 seconds feels like a lifetime and most PS are that and longer. Btw. If you are shooting for web or email or print 4x6 to 8x10 max buying extra MP's won't matter. Anything over 4mp is overkill especially of you buy a camera with a good lens. Tom Copp Composite Specialties www.f3x.com 949-645-7032 -Original Message- From: Nathan Woods [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 1:45 PM To: Soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] RE: ??? (Digital SLR) Wow, I looked at the photo samples from the Panasonic FZ25 and was quite impressed. They are all of static shots, so it's hard to know how it would do for Soaring related photography, but the static shots are quite good, and a few a extremely challenging shots to take well: http://www.dpreview.com/gallery/?gallery=panasonicfz5_samples/ Regards, Nathan Woods -Original Message- Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 11:24:05 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ron Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] ??? Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks to everyone for the helpful suggestions regarding VAS. I got an FZ5 http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/panasonicfz5/ This is one awesome camera for the money... RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] ???
That can be as wide open. My choices are: DSLR: Nikon D50 or Canon XT350. Basically the same features at basically the same cost. If you already have either Canon or Nikon AF lens then stay with that system. 1000.00 with a -200mm lens added. For Point and shoot or all in one I have a Panasonic FZ5 that is VERY fast shot to shot! Only DSLR's are faster and my Panasonic cost about 350.00 USD today. It has Image Stabilization and a 12x optical Leica lens. If you want to spend all the money go with the Canon 20D or Nikon D200. Both will cost over 2000.00-2500.00 with a lens that you will like. Tom Copp Composite Specialties www.f3x.com 949-645-7032 -Original Message- From: Ron Russell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 11:16 AM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] ??? A while back one of you guys was asking for info and recommendations about new Digital SLR's, can you please get back to me with your findings, decision and how you are getting on with it in relation to flying shots etc. Thanks, Yes I am in the market for one now. Must get ready to take some shots at the VR 2006. -- Ron Russell RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] 1.15mm MONO. F3J line
Hello, I have 3 cases of 1.15 (130lb test) Advantage brand mono for F3J towline, This is the line we use for light wind days or weak non F3X.com models J 25.00 a roll 900YARDS long! Delivered. While supplies last. Thanks, Tom Copp Composite Specialties www.f3x.com 949-645-7032
RE: [RCSE] something new
I have the Spektrum module in my 9303 for ground use, Works great, a 9303 with all the mixers if you like stick radios for boats or cars this is the way to go. They have a module for Airtronics as well. More of these are showing up at the RC races and work awesome. I hear they are working on a aircraft version so keep a ear out. Tom Copp Composite Specialties www.f3x.com 949-645-7032 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Stratos SL wing joiners
Hello, Looking for a set of Stratos SL wing joiners and a aileron control horn Call or email me if you can help out, TIA. Tom Copp Composite Specialties www.f3x.com 949-645-7032
[RCSE] RE: [F3F] FS: UPDATED! New servos. Several types.
Now that Gregs 368s are all gone and if your still looking for more I still have a few 6 servo set deals at $350.00 for 6 DS368s if you want. Unfortunately I need 5.00 for shipping so add that. Tom Copp Composite Specialties www.f3x.com 949-645-7032 -Original Message- From: Greg Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 12:42 PM To: RCSE; F3f Subject: [F3F] FS: UPDATED! New servos. Several types. Guys, shop cleaning and I found some extra servos. All servos are new in the box! Volz Micro Maxx X (analog) - $65 per servo. Sold in pairs. $130 total per pair. Includes Shipping in ConUS. 2 pairs (4 total servos) available. Volz Micro Maxx XP (analog) - $75 per servo. Sold in pairs. $150 total per pair. Includes Shipping in ConUS. 1 pair (2 total servos) available. Hitec HS-85mg - $34 per servo. Sold in pairs. $68 total. Includes Shipping in ConUS. 3 pairs (6 total servos) available. The 368s are all sold First come first served! Thanks, -- Greg Smith Slope Soaring Resource http://www.slopeflyer.com
RE: [RCSE] DS368/361 Servo's
Nope, all my brand new 368's run with all my old 368's. I also have some 361's I got from overseas and there is a difference in speed so when the two are side by side you can tell. I have a box of 368's I just received so if you are still worried that JR is pulling a fast one buy all my inventory of REAL 368's ASAP and put them to proper use! Tom Copp Composite Specialties www.f3x.com 949-645-7032 -Original Message- From: Les or Gypsy Stockley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 10:32 PM To: soaring Subject: [RCSE] DS368/361 Servo's Hi all, I have seen some discussion in the past about the 361 being identical to the 368, however I have found differing specs between the two. DS36128x30x13mm18g0.15s/40deg DS36828x30x13mm22g0.11s/40deg I believe the difference between the two is the 361 has a 3 pole motor whereas the 368 has a 5 pole, can anyone out there confirm this?? There were some rumours a number of months ago that the 368 was to be discontinued, does anyone know if JR Japan has simply been putting 368 stickers onto 361 servos for the US market, I have heard that from at least one source fairly close to JR Japan. Cheers, Les. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] F3X at Visalia
Hello Soaring Fans, F3X will have a tent at Visalia again this year probably on the North end of vendor's row. I will have with me: Mini Falcons Seiko Stopwatches (only about 10) F3X Chutes NEW JR XP9303 TX sets JR DS368 DS168 servos Prodij slope ships F3F NYX Artemis LT V X 21 LT F3B/F3J winch (Great for F3J practice) Super servo cover tape. Extra clear 1/2 wide. Some Gambler wing sets for you builders. F3X Skeg box kits. And A few other things, come on over and visit while you check out the new XP9303 radio. I will try and have a model mock up there so you can play with the programming via the DSC cord. Tom Copp Composite Specialties www.f3x.com 949-645-7032 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
RE: [RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #4359
Shoot, even REAL airplanes know not to land downwind Tom Copp Composite Specialties www.f3x.com 949-645-7032 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 8:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #4359 In a message dated 9/25/04 10:34:55 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Tom Copp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2004 5:07 PM Subject: [RCSE] Did you hear? No skegs at Visalia this year! !!!Sucker!!! How about adding some extra skill. Anyone up for No skegs? I'm in! You? Sounds great to lose the skegs. They they make all landings very ugly and unlike full scale sailplanes. You don'r need them if you learn how to land and don't land downwind. Dale Nutter RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
RE: [RCSE] RE: Did you hear? No skegs at Visalia this year!
Hey hey hey, Thats not my Quote! Lets not put Gordys words in my mouth please!! Tom Copp Composite Specialties www.f3x.com 949-645-7032 -Original Message- From: James V. Bacus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2004 6:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE] RE: Did you hear? No skegs at Visalia this year! CD Tom Kallevang has had the no skeg rule at every Fred Fredrickson memorial contest that has ever been (OVSS stop in Chicago), I think that is at least 5 years now. We use a FAI tape. No bruised shins, no dented leading edges, guys control their landings and get the points. The same guys that score high with skegs and 1 tapes score high without skegs on a FAI tape. It's simple, and it works. TK is always thinking far ahead, and you guys are going to be surprised at the format next year. It's not my idea, and not for me to talk about yet, but I like it a lot. At 07:39 PM 9/25/2004, Tom Copp wrote: Of course if we were involved in international contests, it would be crazy to use skegs, but we aren't except for twice a year :-) I think if we decided against skegs in the USA, there would be a lot of broken leading edges and bruised shinsjust like in the rest of the world :-) Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, AMA 592537 LSF 7560 Level IV ICQ: 6997780 AIM: InventorJim R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net
[RCSE] My Apology to Gordy.
I forwarded an email reply to the RCSE list that Gordy sent to me in private. I deeply apologize for that. I didnt notice the address was to me and not the RCSE. Totally my bad. Sorry Gordy! Tom Copp Composite Specialties www.f3x.com 949-645-7032
RE: [RCSE] Flight testing the 9303
Jim, Check the stick length, they are set at the shortest length from the factory and that makes the TX feel hot on the controls. Tom Copp Composite Specialties www.f3x.com 949-645-7032 -Original Message- From: James V. Bacus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2004 7:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE] Flight testing the 9303 snip The response of this radio seems a little quicker than my 10x, Jim thinks it's fast too, I am not sure why it seems like that. I start dialing in my model, I appreciate the ease of use on the field with it. I am trying out 100% diff in launch mode, a suggestion from Mike Lachowski. Wow, that is different, I see the idea. I also work my way up to 100% aileron rudder mix in that configuration so I the right stick is very effective. Every landing I don't have to stretch my way home I dial in the landing compensation a little more. Slowly but surely I am getting my new 9303 to feel like I expect it to with a known model. I need some more time on it before I contest it, I will have it out on Friday at FRU flying it, and anybody is welcome to check mine out over the weekend there in Muncie. Snip RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] F3XTD at HSS So Cal.
Hello TD Gurus, We are holding another F3XTD contest this Sunday at the HSS field in Costa Mesa, Ca. Look here for more info. http://www.f3x.com/Contest/F3xtd.htm Please have your entry card in by 8:45. No new entries will be accepted after 9:10. Once the matrix is set the contest is closed. (Sorry but that's the way it works). This will give me some time to set the matrix and we should start flying by 9:30. We will fly 4 10-minute rounds and a fly off if needed. I will try and keep the contest limited to 4 groups max if frequencies allow. This should keep us at 1 round per hour. We will be flying easily until 2:00 so be prepared. RES pilots will form there own group. Please enter 1 class only as we will possibly fly RES along with the open models to save time but you will be scored separately as RES. For those pilots that have flown the contest before you know the drill. Fly, time shag. The contest can not run without your help. This format is a bit different over the normal TD contest; you will be active all day. Many pilots told me they had more fun because they kept busy. As before, bring a good TD winch and battery and your entry is free! We are looking for 4 more winches. Keep it up, Tom Copp Composite Specialties www.f3x.com 949-645-7032 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
RE: [RCSE] I'm afraid to ask, but....
I am importing these from Roman, I expect a delivery with the next batch. Tom Copp Composite Specialties www.f3x.com 949-645-7032 -Original Message- From: Bill Johns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 8:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] I'm afraid to ask, but I wrote for information regarding the LOLO data logger for gathering data of altitude as a function of time. This is the response. Is anyone in the US importing these devices? Planning to import them? Has anyone dealt with purchases in this manner? It's not that I don't trust this individual, but just sending off buck$ seems a little strange. The price seems reasonable. Bill From: Roman Vojtech [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Bill Johns [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: I'm afraid to ask, but Hello Bill, Im sure you can afford it :) Price till the end of July 2002: 88EUR Shipping Costs: shippinghandling costs 7 EUR but shipment is insured only up to 50EUR. If wanted to be insured to cca 100EUR, must go via customs and will cost more i.e. 88+12EUR. Payment: a/Payment via envelope would be the best (please use solid insured envelope!) b/Bank wire transfer (please add2% from total amount, while they charge me this here) Unfortunatelly my Bank does NOT accept Credit Card payment via Internet from security reasons If you will choose envelope payment will be 95EUR Delivery: Allow 3-4 weeks for delivery. I am doing my best to make it shorter! Address: Roman Vojtech U Studanky 31 170 00 Praha 7 Czech Republic Europe Tell me the sampling rate requested. I must update my site. Every LOLO can be selected for TWO sampling rates. Any combination of two from: 0,1; 0,2; 0,3; 0,5; 1; 2; 1.5; 3; 5; 8 sec longer sampling period=longer recording time Bank: Komercni banka Na Prikope 33 Prague 1 ZIP 114 07 Czech Republic S.W.I.F.T. Code KOMB CZ PP Acount No. 198861000287/0100 Name of the acc.holder Ing.Roman Vojtech-HDA Address of the acc.holder U Studanky 31 Prague 7 ZIP 170 00 Czech Republic regards Roman -Original Message- From: Bill Johns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 7:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: I'm afraid to ask, but You know the story about the fellow who asked about the price of a very fancy yacht. He was told that if he had to ask, he could not afford it. I will ask. Are these marvelous little data logging products available? How much? Off the shelf? Shipping? Thanks, Bill -- Your conscience never stops you from doing anything. It just stops you from enjoying it. Bill Johns Pullman, WA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Recall: [RCSE] F3xTD again at HSS.
Tom Copp would like to recall the message, [RCSE] F3xTD again at HSS.. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] IESC RESULTS
First I will add my thanks to the club for a good weekend and for the guts to fly man on man. Great job guys!!! BTW. Thanks for the ass whipping Manny! Man on man flying is defiantly the way to go. Everyone I talked to liked the idea and had a few suggestions (listed below) The IESC flying site has some very tough air, if you zigged when you should have zagged you found yourself at 1/2 launch height in short time.. The contest used retrievers and 4 winches for 5 man groups, sometimes the last guy in the group launched 1 1/2 to 2 minutes behind the first guy and the professional sandbaggers took full advantage of it. When the air is that fickle 1 minute is enough time to figure out who NOT to follow. Short line were not a problem but you did need a good launch set up. The contest was defiantly biased towards soaring with a max of 5 landing points possible. The contest was also a triathlon scoring thrown in for fun. The first round was a 3 minute bell curve straight up. What I heard for suggestions: * Landing points could be higher but more importantly define a tighter landing area. If you don't define a landing area then guys are landing all over the place from all directions. At this contest inside the 1/4 mile track would be a good landing area. Outside the landing area would receive no points. It would be safer and more controlled. * Drop the triathlon, go with all 10 minute man on man flights. * More winches, the retrievers worked and pilots were launched as soon as possible with the manpower available. Without retrievers you can get the group up faster but you also need more help shagging lines. If you have the space between winches then retrievers are a good idea. At our field we can't spread out wide enough to keep the bow from the retriever line out of the next pilots way so you need to wait for the retriever to tighten the line before the next pilot can launch. Worse in a cross wind. At HSS we will put some of these suggestion into play so if your July 7th Sunday is open come on out. Tom Copp COMPOSITE SPECIALTIES www.f3x.com 949-645-7032 -Original Message- From: Daryl Perkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 7:07 AM To: John Erickson; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Soaring List Subject:Re: [RCSE] IESC RESULTS Was there much of guys chasing the leader around the field, or did everyone try to find their own air? If it's at all like the IHLGF, I'm always surprised how little poaching actually takes place. You have less time to decide in hand launch, and 25' can make a big difference, but I would think that with good launches there would be the opportunity to just try and cover the leader. The launch lines were quite short, and the winches easily stalled - not much launch height. The air was brutal - light disorganized lift with BIG sink. I was not instantly comfortable on any of my flights. (Except the 3) There was a bit of herd mentality, but if you wanted to make your times, you needed to break away from the pack. I think only the top 3 made all their times - and Cohn turned an 8 minute on a 10 minute task into a 1,000. (So actually only 2 of the top 3 made their times) I was trying to figure out if this would have been the case had the contest NOT been held man on man. I think many more people would have made their times had it been held in a normal contest format. There would have been planes in the air to read and cover. Or to read and go the other way. The contest definitely emphasized soaring skills - it was more fun than the typical steer and stabs we normally fly in. Thanks again to ISS for trying something new - it was a hoot! D __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] DYNAMIC SOARING FESTIVAL VIDEO
This thread is going off topic but I have to with Walter on this one, The last ISR had over 80 individual heat races with 3 pilots per heat on average with only 3 or 4 model fatalities. That's not a carnage fest by any stretch of imagination. Yes, negative talk will keep potential racers away. We are working hard to get slope racing going again see www.sloperacing.com for info. So we try to keep things in perspective about the carnage. Btw. I have one of Marty's video shorts and they are good. Get one. I am also looking forward to Dave's tape on the 2002 ISR. He shot a bunch of footage. Including me stuffing my Acacia at base B. ouch! Well maybe that won't make the video.. Also while I am promoting other peoples stuff go get the VR98 video from Paul. He had them on sale and it is the BEST I have seen at showing what we do in F3F. Tom Copp COMPOSITE SPECIALTIES www.f3x.com 949-645-7032 -Original Message- From: Pat McCleave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 8:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; RCSE Subject:Re: [RCSE] DYNAMIC SOARING FESTIVAL VIDEO Geez Walter, Lighten Up. UNL MOM has enough appeal to with stand a little hype advertising about a new video release. I love to see a good crash caught on tape just much as the next guy and I guarantee it does keep me from racing. As I understand from reading many accounts about the old race series, it was more a matter lack of support in running the races than the crashes that killed the series. It also sounded like what made the most recent race at Davenport such a success was the great support those that stepped up and organized the event received from several volunteers. The excitement is there and as long as there is help to run a quality event talk of a few crashes are not going to keep the racers away. See Ya, Pat McCleave Wichita, KS - Original Message - From: gldr guy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 8:36 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] DYNAMIC SOARING FESTIVAL VIDEO I am sure, especially if Dave Reese says so, that you have produced an excellent video. All the head on destruction at Davenport MOM? I realize that you want to sell your videos, but you have to realize that a lot of people are putting in a lot of effort to get the ISR MOM going again. I know a lot of people are scared off by the notion that there is just too much carnage at a unlimited MOM event and are hesitant to race because of this. If you take in the amount of racing that took place there during the last event, and count the head on destruction, you may find there was very little of this. I hope people considering this race will realize that in spite of your advertising. Walter --- GG On Tue, 11 Jun 2002 20:23:28 Tuffpuppy wrote: Marty your videos ROCK!!! The price is WAY cheap!! You boyz best grab some copies before he comes to his senses and ups his prices :-))!! The DS Fest is definately the best! Thanks for the entertainment and keep up the great work! Dave Reese RC Videos www.ReeseProductions.com In a message dated 6/11/02 7:55:42 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This was the first ever Dynamic Soaring event held at Cape Blanco.The top DS pilots flew a three day event breaking world records and exploding planes. See planes hit 186mph. See and hear planes explode right before your eyes. This video will make you feel like you were there. If you want to see a professionally shot and edited video of the event than check out CROSLEYCUSTOMS.COM This video also includes WEST COAST SLOPE TOUR A short video that takes you on a high speed tour of our best slopes and flying. Los Banos scale, West Ridge, Cajon Summit PSS Fest, Hells Canyon ect. This is the tape you may have heard about that captured all the head on destruction at Davenport MAN on MAN. Another bonus short on the tape is DS racing at parker with JW's and Dave pushing a DG three meter scale plane to it's limit on the backside. CROSLEYCUSTOMS.COM RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is your boss reading your email? Probably Keep your messages private by using Lycos Mail. Sign up today at http://mail.lycos.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] HSS F3XTD- mini report.
We had 12 pilots in open show up for the contest and 2 RES. We flew 4 rounds of 3 heats with 4 pilots per heat. After the round the 2 RES guys flew man on man so they also got 4 rounds in. We had 5 winches on the field (Thanks guys!) I used a free F3J scoring program that could automatically set the matrix and score the contest (we did input the scores manually). I did make a few tweaks to suite our format. In F3J there is a penalty for flying over the 10 minutes so if someone posted a 10:03 for example we input a 9:57 in the program and it wouldn't add a penalty automatically. I am sure someone could write a special program for this but that's beyond my capabilities. Everything worked well for our needs. Basically we launched the 4 pilots, the next pilot launched when the first was 1/2 way up the tow. No retrievers. This gave us enough separation that there was no traffic on final approach if everyone made his time. With only 12 pilots the 2nd group timed for the first and the 3rd shagged the winch lines. After a bit the pilots got the hang of the format and some had their models ready to launch well ahead of time. With a bit more help and a few more contests everyone will be up to speed and the contest will move quickly. 2 heats could easily be flown 5 minutes apart. So at a large contest you could launch 10 pilots every 5 minutes if you wanted. No line breaks and I think only 1 pop off for the day. Sorry Mark. I used the std FAI tape (the long one) because we had them already. I will make the special tape for the next contest. The next F3XTD contest is the first Sunday next month at HSS field in Costa Mesa, CA. Come on out. We will set the field for 7 winches next time. (The club is re conditioning a few extra winches for next month.) Tom Copp COMPOSITE SPECIALTIES www.F3X.com ph/fax 949-645 7032 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] WANTED: Taboo DLG and Fx3 Bandit
Bandit's are back in production and the Bandit-E instruction sheet is included to make it SP400 powered. Tom Copp COMPOSITE SPECIALTIES www.F3X.com ph/fax 949-645 7032 -Original Message- From: Brian Joder - OUTBOUND Ind. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 12:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] WANTED: Taboo DLG and Fx3 Bandit Hello, ANybody have a Taboo DLG or an Fx3 Bandit kit or used in good condition for sale? Brian __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] Is an Aquila with a glass fuse Nostalgia Legal
I don't know about your particular situation but before 1980 most every model built from a kit I have seen or owned has been bashed one way or another. I appreciate the nostalgia's dedication to the era and I do not envy your job. Please correct me if I am wrong but the current NOS rules allow carbon spars and skegs. You can even add spoilers if the kit had none. By doing this you already opened a big can of worms. Are your NOS contests so full that you need to limit the entries by disqualifying minor non-conformance? I would think a carbon spar Windfree w/skegs that zooms to the moon is less nostalgia than a model with blade spoilers that were available in the era. You guys have a tough job. We had some conflicts out west also. There is a movement for balsa built up models only but then some guy heading the Balsa Task Force glasses over the fuse w 6oz cloth and epoxies on a 5 landing skeg. What's up with that??? BTW. I just received my BoT plans from RCM ($9.00) and plan to build it like my old one from 1979 w/3- piece wing, change the dihedral angles, skinny wood fuse and no sub fin. Although I might add some of those high dollar blade spoilers even though my old BoT had none and carbon spars. No 5 long skegs for me though. I have to draw the line somewhere. Am I still NOS legal? It will be RES legal. Q. Will a BoT with a new glass fuse be NOS legal? As far as I know these were not commercially available but if this gets more guys interested why not? Tom Copp COMPOSITE SPECIALTIES www.F3X.com ph/fax 949-645 7032 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 4:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE] Is an Aquila with a glass fuse Nostalgia Legal Hi Ray, Could you ask Tim about vertical popup blade spoilers? I put a set of Graupner spoilers in my standard Aquila before 1980. I am about to take them out but won't if I can fly with them. Last year I won a Nostalgia contest with it but had them disconnected and taped down. I was CD and didn't want to cause controversy. If anyone but me had shown up with s similar setup I would have allowed them to fly. Many of the mods we made years ago didn't really enhance performance much. These spoilers are certainly not better than the old tilt up style. Mike Clancy RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] Fuselage painting help
James, Go to your local Auto Body supply shop and buy some of their high dollar (11.00) spray paint of the shelf. The cans spray wonderfully and the paint is almost as durable as the paint on a car. Temco or Tepco or ??? is one brand name. Option 2. Go to Pep Boys or Kragen or ?? and buy Dupli-Color spray paint. It's a lacquer base and dries very fast. Also buy a can of Dupli-Color clear wheel paint to go over that. Their sandable filler primer surfacer is about the best primer out of a can you will find for under 5.00. Tom Copp COMPOSITE SPECIALTIES www.F3X.com ph/fax 949-645 7032 -Original Message- From: James R MacLean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 4:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Fuselage painting help Now I know this may be a bit heretical, but I wish to paint my Compulsion fuse. I am aware that it will add a bit of weight. My Addiction flies extremely well with a white fuse. I am very pleased with the Compulsion and want to dress it up a bit. The problem is finding a good, affordable paint system. I used Krylon on the Addiction - it soaks up dirt, sweat, looks dull, is thick and generally poor looking. I have two problems: My air compressor was stolen. I am thinking about using disposable spray bottles which the industrial paint store sells. They have a small bottom jar which can be loaded with any kind of paint. The nozzel will not be ideal - anyone have any thoughts on using this system. The cost is quite reasonable - how are the results in the real world? What kind of paint / primer is suitable for this job? Oh by the way, is it still for sale! I have a friend who uses KB epoxy for all of his work and it looks great - he stocked up 4 years ago. Imron works fine but is expensive and very toxic. Dupont makes a system called Ful-Thane (sp ?) which is a catalized paint with an epoxy 2 part primer. It is not quite as expensive or toxic but still needs careful precautions. Anyone used this and how about looks / durability / weight? Anything else out there which makes sense to get a good looking / durable finish? I considered LusterKote but the last time I used that was on my Condor and the peel strength of the bond was awful. It is possible something went wrong but that fuse has areas where the tape has wholesale removed the paint and looks terrible. Many thanks for any help. I hope to have a flight report soon. I am so happy with my Addiction that a better flying plane is hard to imagine, nevertheless, this plane sure looks like that will be the case. Jim MacLean Melbourne,FL GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] looking for John Yee of SWSA
John if you are out there please drop me an email. Tom Copp COMPOSITE SPECIALTIES www.F3X.com ph/fax 949-645 7032 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] Nyx teething problem????
All the new NYX have the carbon aero shaft and steel pushrod ends for elevator. I would recommend that you replace the aluminum pushrod end with a steel end or use a spring steel clevis epoxy directly inside the carbon aero shaft. You can get to the bell crank without surgery but it is a bitch. That plastic clevis with the brass pin really hold tight. 1. Grab and spin the carbon pushrod to un-screw the clevis at the bell crank 2. Open the rudder clevis and fold back the rudder so you have access to the fin post. 3. Rotate the bell crank (stabs of) so the clevis is positioned at the slot in the fin post and pull the brass pin from the clevis. 4. Replace the aluminum pushrod end by heating the aluminum end with a soldering iron and pull out. 5. Epoxy in the steel clevis directly or shorten the carbon rod and add a piece of music wire and a wood wedge in the end of the pushrod and solder the clevis directly to the wire. Like the old days. 6. Install the pushrod. 7. That's it. The NYX went through a few design changes on the F3B versions. If your carbon NYX weighs about 75oz you have a great carbon skinned F3J and overly strong AMA ship. The current F3B lay up gives a model that is 81oz RTF and real world F3B strength. FYI, There was a report on an elevator pushrod failure in Australia a few weeks ago. The model will be replaced at no charge. Even though David and the Australian gentleman are not my customers I want you all to know that the NYX manufacturer backs up his products. Call your dealer for the right model to fit your needs. Tom Copp COMPOSITE SPECIALTIES www.F3X.com ph/fax 949-645 7032 -Original Message- From: davidvels [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 3:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Nyx teething problem Greetings, I think all that have flown the Nyx will agree that it is a sweet flyer and would highly recommend it. However, I will say beware the elevator pushrod. I have (fortunately still) the F3B version with the carbon pushrod and what a fine pushrod it is. The problem lay with the aluminium threaded coupler at the belcrank (rear) end. Yup, aluminium !!! It's the same coupler supplied for the servo end. All you have to do is bounce the tail on the ground (and I mean bounce, not slap) and the weight of the pushrod, coupled with the weight of the tailplane supplying a compression load, bends the 2-56 size Alum. thread. The next launch provides enough load to further bend the thread to about 45 degrees to the pushrod, leaving you flying straight and level holding about half up elevator to land if your lucky The thread snapped off while I was undoing the clevis. Remedy; Replace the alum. coupler with a steel coupler, and/or support the weight of the push rod with a balsa block. To insert the balsa support block, I did it in two stages. First, glue a block about half the size required to the bottom of the fuse by using a 2-56 threaded wire into the balsa. When the glue has set, unscrew the wire and glue in the next block on top of the first. The reason for two blocks is there is not enough access to do it in one step. Now I can fly this magnificent aircraft with total confidence and I do highly recommend it to anyone interested. David Vels RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] Eraser Xtreme CDT
That sounds about right. They are typically 1 to 3oz heaver than the Artemis LT V tail :) Tom Copp COMPOSITE SPECIALTIES www.F3X.com ph/fax 949-645 7032 -Original Message- From: John Ihlein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 1:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Eraser Xtreme CDT For those interested: I just unpacked an Erase Xtreme CDT (carbon D tube)I bought from Skip Miller at the SWC. Out of the box the parts weighed as follows: Fuse with tail and pushrods: 357.2 grams - 12.6 ounces Left Wing: 227.7 grams - 8.0 ounces Center Wing: 521.9 grams - 18.4 ounces Right Wing: 230.9 grams - 8.2 ounces Misc Parts(screws, wing joiners, etc):71.4 grams - 2.5 ounces Now, if I did the math right, thats 1409.1 grams, or 49.7 ounces before radio gear installation. Figure on 16 or so ounces for gear and nose weight, and it should fly around 66 ounces or so. Cool!! John Ihlein Albuquerque, NM _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] RES what's in a name?
2. TPG rules, meaning AMA rules but no skegs. Cool, I like that one. Like the good old days! (Old for me anyway). Those TPG guys are on the cutting edge! Tom Copp COMPOSITE SPECIALTIES www.F3X.com ph/fax 949-645 7032 -Original Message- From: John Roe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 9:18 AM To: rcse Subject: [RCSE] RES what's in a name? The Harbor Soaring Society like many clubs has a group of pilots who like to fly low tech planes, i.e. Rudder Elevator Spoiler only. Thisquestion was debated; As a competition class, what other restrictions should apply? The majoritywere happywith the AMA definition of RES, which allows any typeof construction materials/methods and allows skegs. The other options discussed were: 1.Nostalgia rules, meaning designs kitted during or before 1980. 2. TPG rules, meaning AMA rules but no skegs SNIP
RE: [RCSE] RES what's in a name?
HI John, I just went through this drill a few months ago. What I found is there are pilots for each sub category (big surprise) Nostalgia is not necessary all wood construction, its pre 1980. But spoilers are allowed to be added and the structure i.e. carbon spars, spruce spars can replace balsa etc. You cant make a wood wing a foam/glass wing though. Mixing radios are allowed. Plastic and glass fuses are allowed if the kits had them. Local HSS rules are really a problem because one guy has the say as what is OK and what is NOT. Nothing in writing and on the books and that is what I pushed for. The AMA has gone through this and approved RES as Rudder, Elevator and top mounted spoilers that move in unison, no other restrictions apply except for AMA safety rules. The big 3 west coast contests use the AMA RES rules. A few built up only contests are held. They were popular. My vote is for AMA RES. This will allow original designs, Nostalgia, balsa and foam to fly. Some guys are worried about mega buck models winning the class; they should be worried about who is at the sticks. Tom Copp COMPOSITE SPECIALTIES www.F3X.com ph/fax 949-645 7032
RE: [RCSE] June 89 F3F
Hi Bruce, It would be good to have you there. OPEN class only for F3F. In F3F we don't judge you ...just time you :) Tom Copp COMPOSITE SPECIALTIES www.F3X.com ph/fax 949-645 7032 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 7:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] June 89 F3F Thinking about staying out west after the IHLGF for a week of slope and a bit of F3F June 8 and 9. What classes will be flown? Bruce Davidson Louisville, KY RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] How strong is a Hera really?
Have fun Rick but remember to- Engage brain first before applying foot to pedal. Tom Copp COMPOSITE SPECIALTIES www.F3X.com ph/fax 949-645 7032 -Original Message- From: Rick Eckel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 7:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE] How strong is a Hera really? Thanks for the feedback guys! There were no reports of Hera's failing on launch. Universally I have been advised that a contest between a Rahm winch and the Hera will be won by the Hera. Sure hope you guys are right. ;-) Rick RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] Christmas Came Early Shameless F3X self-promotion. Hit delete.
Thanks Pat, Yes the NYX (say Nix) are starting to ship. Mark and I received #2 #3 prototypes out of the molds 1 week before Visalia. Now only 2 months later (including import) and the first batch of 8 production NYX's are delivered to my customers. If you're on the waiting list hang on because by mid January we should be receiving about 8 models a month for the USA. To get the models coming in as soon as possible I ordered random colors along with specific customer requests. I received a bit of both. F3X will order any color or scheme (within reason) for our customers on any model I sell. Of course the wait is a bit longer but I like the fact that you can get a model built exactly the way you want it. This includes different lay up options for TD, F3J, F3F, F3B and special DS versions. I order the most popular std colors and configurations for stock to keep things moving but if you want something special give me a call. It might be thought of as a bad business decision by others but I think it is more fun this way. Don't you? One thing you might not know is the F3X NYX and Artemis models now all come with a ballast kit and pre wired airframes. Yes, the harness is built and installed; the wing mounts to the fuse with an auto hook up DB9 connector installed, the wires are ran to the flap servo pockets and out the main panel to the tips. Both are terminated with a female socket to plug your servos into, the fuse harness has 4 leads up to the nose for your receiver Sweet! When you order a F3X NYX you get a state of the art model including 2001 airfoil technology, a planform designed by a PHD in Aerodynamics, high teck materials- Kevlar/carbon fuse, Kevlar carbon D tube (or other versions), pre wired airframe, ballast tube and ballast included, choice of colors and sometimes very friendly service. You also get the model that is right for your skill level and advice from a R/C sailplane pilot for 23 years and on my good days can pose a threat in TD, F3F, or F3J contests and I have the Wood to prove it. Being a Has-Been is better than a Never-Was any day of the week. Look over what F3X has to offer the soaring community; yes I cater to the competition pilot because that is what I like. Other vendors are better suited for beginner pilots with models designed for their budget and skill level. The models I sell will do the task properly or I will tell you about it. I personally fly each design to make sure it is right for the job and not just write about it. When your ready to make that next step in performance give me a call and we can talk about your needs. Seiko's for Christmas! Shameless F3X self-promotion is now over. Merry Christmas everyone! Tom Copp COMPOSITE SPECIALTIES www.F3X.com ph/fax 949-645 7032 -Original Message- From: Pat McCleave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 6:51 PM To: RCSE Subject: [RCSE] Christmas Came Early Hi Gang, Christmas came early today in Wichita in the form of my new NYX. It has been quite a while since I owned my Hera and I am pleasantly amazed at how much better the quality has gotten from this manufacturer. Now do not get me wrong the Hera was a really nice plane but they have taken it to a new level with the NYX. Thanks to Tom Copp at www.f3x.com we get a chance to own these fine models at a good price. I hope to have it in the air soon so I can start getting it tuned and ready for the FUN IN THE SUN in Phoenix in February. More to come as I get it in the air. See Ya, Pat McCleave Wichita, KS RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] Nats..reply..Numbers (long)
I have to agree with you on that. If you want to see FAI events grow in the USA then we need to hold more club level contests. I agree that the AMA TD contests that we all go to in the last 20+ years are very much the same, no it's not easy to win, it's fun and social but it is also less challenging than FAI events. We ran some F3J contests 2 years ago and the response from hard-core AMA TD pilots that tried it REALLY liked the challenge, you have to think more and it makes you better. F3B will teach you plane control like no other flat land soaring. It's interesting how many good TD pilots can't do a straight distance course. It's all for lack of practice I know; it's not our game. We need to start off slow. With just the 3 F3B contests a year it's too intimidating for new guys to enter and there are so few F3B contests that the more serious guys don't want there limited F3B weekends diluted with a F3B school. Where does that leave us? You need the new guys and you need the good contests to succeed. As someone said earlier the current AMA TD ships would make great entry F3J/F3B models so lets do this: On 1 weekend set up the F3B course and use club winches and whatever TD models you have to fly some simple F3B just to get the feel for it. Remember the sportsman F3B years ago? (The one that died) I wouldn't make it a contest but more like a F3B clinic at your local field. Have fun with it. Repeat. For F3J fly winched launch man on man, the hand tow is fun but a big pain in the ### especially for us fat guys. F3X started F3F in the USA 2 years ago from nothing. Now we have a good west coast circuit with events every month. N vs. S competitions and big 2 day contests, It can be done with F3J or F3B but don't expect it to out grow TD for years and years. Start at home and work on the Nats later. As for the Nats I never attended one. I would like to. Especially for F3J or F3B if the contest was longer. So that's why I never went. I am talking through my hat because I do not know the schedule or lay out but if the Nats could host 3 days of either F3B or F3J at the same time as 2 meter, scale, res. and Nos I am sure that the FAI entries would grow, yes the FAI guys would have to give up RES, 2 meter and scale to compete and bring there equipment and some manpower but if that's the price you need to pay. In F3F you are REQUIRED to work or the contest doesn't go. Give the FAI guys the odd freq if the field is in radio conflict with the other events. The price of crystals isn't that bad considering the overall expense of the trip. It's just a thought. Anyway someone with Nats experience should do the scheduling. Some people want to move forward (fai) some move back (res, nos) to simpler times. I see the same faces at Visalia year after year. Where are the new guys? Where are the juniors? Is this addiction of ours a habit or do you still enjoy it? Do you want a challenge? Is it the money or the time? In So California we are loosing our fields to Golf courses Soccer fields. We can show a history of use but not a growth. The sky is falling! The sky is falling! Have fun, see you in AZ! Tom Copp COMPOSITE SPECIALTIES www.F3X.com ph/fax 949-645 7032 -Original Message- From: Jason Werner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 7:37 AM To: RCSE Subject: Re: [RCSE] Nats..reply..Numbers Mike, You (ok we) are fightning a losing battle. Everyone has every number that supports their position. The simple thing is that the LSF is going to support the masses, not the competitive and international arena. While all other RC competitions view the FAI tasks as the pinnacle of their competition, soaring views it as a fringe activity. To most soaring participants, F3b or F3j are stupid events that have no basis or impact on their soaring persuits. Of course that rules out molded planes, airfoil design, Joe and Darryl, launching increases, etc... But to them they simply don't care. Jack is right, 2M is more popular than F3b. More people showed up, so that must mean it is more popular. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] RES, 3-F, Nos.
I need help clarifying the 3-F, RES, Nostalgia classes bent wing. It looks simple enough but there are MANY variables on the local interpretation of these classes. A few of the larger contests fly RES or 3-F (3 function). What they usually mean is rudder, elevator spoiler. 3-F should be interpreted as any 3 control i.e. ailerons, elevator, flaps but most clubs are looking for bent wing ships or RES (I think). Nostalgia and RES are different because Nostalgia planes are models kitted or published plans before 01/01/1980 (?) with a few mods. Can I fly a Dodgson Todi in Nostalgia? Can the clubs involved decide on better definitions for these following classes? I propose the following to get the discussion going: Lets define 3-F class as any 3 functions like REF (rudder, elevator, flaps) or AEF (aileron, elevator, flaps) or XXX. This could be a creative class. Nostalgia. Kits or plans built models before 01/01/1980. I understand the want for stronger spars for models designed before winches but why add spoilers if the kit never had them? No skegs either. By definition you have to allow early aileron designed (pre 1980) models in the class. RES. Rudder, elevator spoiler. That's it. Bent wing. My NYX has a bent wing. Does it qualify? Drop the definition. Notice I didn't cover materials yet. Here it goes. There is strong support to turn back the clocks to a simpler time and get to balsa, open structure, RES models. If that is your goal then lets have a class that is called RES Balsa or ???. Of course I have a motive here. I sell models and am working with builders on a new toy and I want to know what class is most popular and most supported to design the new model around. I am sure other builders are interested as well and will be looking for this information. Here is a good chance to develop a class that will be supported by manufactures if the rules are understood. Open for discussion. Tom Copp COMPOSITE SPECIALTIES www.F3X.com ph/fax 949-645 7032 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] F3J Team selections
This was my 3rd team selection (2 F3J, 1 F3B) and I really like the high level of competition you have at team selections. The normal TD contest like the FSF, are more social events and much less challenging as a whole. Don't get me wrong you don't see my name at the top of the leader board at most contests but I like good high level competition and I found it at the team selections every time. Thoughts for next time: Team Protection: In the future I would like to see 4-man team protection as the norm. F3J is labor intensive and we all say we want more participation in F3J contests. 4 men are the max allowed on the field, 1 pilot 3 helpers. If everyone on the team is also a pilot then you don't need to Hire a tow man. Of course in the fly off all protection is out. Carrying scores: For us bottom feeders carrying scores wont help us make the team at all but it does allow the better pilots to win a competition not a crap shoot. 2-man tow w/stake: It has worked every time for me and it equals the tow power available. With a 2-man stake tow and a little wind the launch power is very equal for all the teams. I am sure there are 40+ other stories about the F3J team selection, for me I would like to thank my teammates for caring my weight thought the competition (I couldn't tow this time) and I would like to thank SOAR for hosting the selections and rounding up the workforce to put on a good show. I know my club in So Cal wouldn't have the manpower to run such an event If you like great competition and want to learn more about the finer points of our hobby I highly recommend getting involved in the team selection process, until we get more FAI type events in the USA it's the only game in town. BTW. Aren't you all bored with the regular launch and land contests yet? Tom Copp COMPOSITE SPECIALTIES www.F3X.com ph/fax 949-645 7032 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] FW: [FAIsoaring] WC F3B
I hope this is still new news. Tom Copp -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 4:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[FAIsoaring] WC F3B This is the first report from the Czech Republic. The euro-tour contest started today in a slow tempo. Many of the WC contries are flying in the event, but not all. The reigning WC Darryl Perkins blow up his model (Icon) during launch. The flying field is big and open and the teams has been training on it since monday. The weather has been good whole week with temperatures above 30 degreese and very light wind (except today when it was 4-6 m/s) More to come... /Stefan == Send mail to the list at address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To [Un]Subscribe go to the list-homepage: http://www.cirrus-rcfk.no/faisoaring/ or send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is maintained by Cirrus RC Flyklubb, Norway by Inge Balswick, E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] F3J toys FS
Hello, Team selections are almost here. I have a few models/toys for those in need: 1 Pike Plus LT. 2-piece v-tail, ballast tubes in the fuse, extra wide bhf. Yellow/blue NIB. Stratos SL RTF. Mint cond. Yellow/red. Sharon 3.5m 5-piece wing. RTF. Very good cond. All MPX digitals. Pike Plus Carbon. RTF Yellow/LT blue RTF. Good cond. 141s all around. Artemis LT +. STD tail NIB. 5 to choose from w/ballast tubes in the fuse. FAI Chutes. Only 25 left. F3J team selection pilots gets priority, first come first serve. F3J hand winch. Graupner. 2 only F3J winch. Better quality, better gears than above. 2 ea. #200 mono and a few rolls of #150. The #1 Pike and Artemis models are NIB. The others are in very good condition. No junk. If any of these will help you out let me know. Thanks for the space. Good luck to all Tom Copp COMPOSITE SPECIALTIES www.F3X.com ph/fax 949-645 7032
RE: [RCSE] FIJI Hand reels
www.f3x.com where else! Tom Copp COMPOSITE SPECIALTIES www.F3X.com ph/fax 949-645 7032 -Original Message- From: Darrell Z. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 9:34 PM To: Exchange Subject: [RCSE] FIJI Hand reels I was wondering if anybody knew of a good quality hand reel used in F3J with removable spool for removing lines off of the field between rounds? Thanks Darrell Z. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] F3X.com is still here.
Hi Guys, We are still here even though our server is down for 5 days now. They say it will be back up soon. New Nemesis models with bottom hinged flaps are in. Wish I could show them to you! Thank you for all the emails. Everything is fine and we will be up and running soon (possibly with a new server) Tom Copp COMPOSITE SPECIALTIES www.F3X.com ph/fax 949-645 7032 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] F3X.com is still here.
It is worse than that now. Our server nuked my entire web page. I have a OLD copy up now so the newest stuff is not there. I need some help from some of you who might have a copy of some f3x stuff lurking on your computer. If you regularly visit the site see if you can find some current pages. Here is 1 way to do it. OpenC: OpenWindows folder OpenTemporary Internet Files Click on Internet address bar at top to sort files. See how many http://www.f3x.com/.htm files you have from last week. Let me know what you have and if you are willing to send them back to me. I can restore the site from this info. Please DONT send anything until after we talk. Tom Copp COMPOSITE SPECIALTIES www.F3X.com ph/fax 949-645 7032 -Original Message- From: Karlton Spindle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 9:00 AM To: Tom Copp; RCSE; F3F@yahoogroups. com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE] F3X.com is still here. Tom I cant say I fell your pain because in the years and years we have been with NETMEISTER I can not remember an outage EVER due to server problems. Internic yes once but NEVER a server problem. Joe Nave an active Soaring Pilot owns Netmeister. They also host rcsoaring.com along with MANY companies in the R/C community. I can OPENLY RECOMMEND NETMEISTER to ANY company who wants to improve service and not have server problems!! Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ASAP! http://www.NETMEISTER.com I DO NOT WORK FOR OR GET PAID BY NETMEISTER THEY ARE JUST TOO COOL FOR WORDS! They ROCK! BTW Tom the Profi 4000 shipment came in and I need that plane VBG Smooth Sailing, Karlton Spindle http://www.MultiplexRC.com - Original Message - From: Tom Copp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RCSE [EMAIL PROTECTED]; F3F@yahoogroups. com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 6:35 AM Subject: [RCSE] F3X.com is still here. Hi Guys, We are still here even though our server is down for 5 days now. They say it will be back up soon. New Nemesis models with bottom hinged flaps are in. Wish I could show them to you! Thank you for all the emails. Everything is fine and we will be up and running soon (possibly with a new server) Tom Copp COMPOSITE SPECIALTIES www.F3X.com ph/fax 949-645 7032 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Vacuum Pumps for $50.00
CH sales have good little vacuum pumps for 50.00 www.candhsales.com PC9904 PUMPS DIAPHRAGM PUMP THOMAS INDUSTRIES 115 VAC *RFE Have fun. Tom Copp COMPOSITE SPECIALTIES 949 645 7032 ph/fax http://www.f3x.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Seiko stopwatches at Pheonix.
See Ben Clerx or Joe Rodriguez this weekend at the SWC. Also check out the Zenith on display. Tom Copp COMPOSITE SPECIALTIES 949 645 7032 ph/fax http://www.f3x.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] FW: [SoCalSlopeRacing] Temple Hills and Los Banos
Tom Copp COMPOSITE SPECIALTIES 949 645 7032 ph/fax http://www.f3x.com -Original Message- From: Robert Bingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 1:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SoCalSlopeRacing] Temple Hills and Los Banos Just got done editing photos from this past weekend. Take a look Temple Hills F3F (practice) http://www.gliderking.com/race/temple.1.13.01/index.htm Los Banos F3F http://www.gliderking.com/race/losbanos.1.14.01/index.htm Enjoy the pics... still need some captions for the banos pics... anyone want to write some for Charlie's pics? Bob Bingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Miraj Slope model
Mini report. I just returned from test flying a customers Miraj. I have to say so far I am impressed! Smooth, responsive and FAST! Handles light lift very well with a bit of camber. ULTRA QUIET in the air! (No hollow molded noise) I caught a couple of thermals sneaking buy and the Miraj went up very well. I will try and make Torrey sometime this week and give it a go. Yes, I sell them, yes I make some money from the sale, and yes I think it's a very good model. When If my web page comes back up you can see some photos of the Miraj there. This is no new news to the regular Euro F3F guys some of you have seen the Miraj in action but I believe this is the first Miraj in the USA. Tom Copp COMPOSITE SPECIALTIES 949 645 7032 ph/fax http://www.f3x.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] largest rc-plane?
I think it's probably that 707 () airliner that they crashed for a fire test years ago. Does that count? Tom Copp COMPOSITE SPECIALTIES 949 645 7032 ph/fax http://www.f3x.com -Original Message- From: John Derstine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2000 1:05 PM To: Kjell-Arne Fjelde; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [RCSE] largest rc-plane? This is the largest in the US anyway, see the link below. Tony Elliots SB-10 at 10.6 meter span (almost 35') Towed to 1500' by a Pegasus tug by the way! http://www.sailplanes.com/Tips/ama_certification_proces.htm John Derstine E-mail; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scale Soaring: http://www.Geocities.com/~scalesoar -Original Message- From: Kjell-Arne Fjelde [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2000 4:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] largest rc-plane? What is the biggest rc-glider built, and flown?. Is there some kind of record? If so, how big? Any ideas? RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Throwing things was All that B52 jazz ...
I tossed a paper airplane off the 4th floor from the top of the Luxor in Vegas. That was pretty cool! You need to set the airplane for a slow circular glide so you can stay in the center of the pyramid. They even give you material in the room to make the airplane from! Nice place. Tom Copp COMPOSITE SPECIALTIES 949 645 7032 ph/fax http://www.f3x.com -Original Message- From: Jennifer and Scott Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 9:27 AM To: RCSE Subject: Re: [RCSE] All that B52 jazz ... I once threw a small balsa stick glider off the Seattle Space Needle. The glider spiraled all the way to the ground after clipping a wire just after launch. :-) Scott Martin Jacksonville, Ark. - Original Message - From: Keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chuck Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]; RCSE [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 3:49 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] All that B52 jazz ... I've managed to glide a Challenger corporate jet(with the engines at flight idle) 197 miles, from a starting altitude of 39,000' and a speed that was around 230 kts. for most of the time. From the same altitude, if I maintain 300 kts., I can make about 125 miles. Keith M Hawaii RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] GLUED IN SERVOS (2nd tip of the day)
Hello, When installing servos in a molded wing without pre-molded pockets you usually need to attach them to the inside of the top skin. Before you do this first apply some 8oz fiberglass or 6oz carbon patches 1/2 " larger than the access hole to the inside of the skin with laminating epoxy (West systems works) to cover the area where the servo will rest. With the lighter overall weight on the newer molded ships (like we all want) the inside skin is usually very light f/g cloth .75 to 1oz weight and can be damaged when the servo needs to be removed. Try and run a corner of the patch up the side of the spar. This patch also stiffens the wing skin quite a bit and makes for a firm installation. When I epoxy the servo in I usually sand the surface of the servo a bit and the area that I will bond to. I found that most epoxy will not stick to the servo case material. I usually use 30-minute epoxy and micro balloons and add just enough spooge to seat the servo in the wing with a LITTLE excess curling up around the edges. Do not force the servo tight against the surface and clamp in place because that will flatten the wing skin and stay that way. Gently float the servo in position and tape in place until the epoxy has set up. Less is best. Removing servos installed with epoxy; Gently twist the servo clockwise (If in the northern Hemisphere) with a pair of long nose pliers if you have the room. The servo will just pop out. If you can't get a good grip on the servo then use 1/4 music wire through the wing root and gently but firmly tap the corner of the servo to apply a twisting force and the servo will pop out. This is easiest with a 3-piece wing. When you replace the servo the epoxy micro spooge formed a perfect mold of the servo, so apply a VERY THIN layer of epoxy and replace the servo in the spooge bed. Your servo will be exactly in the same position as before. The trick is to twist the servo. Do not pull the servo out or you could bring the skin with it. This method has been used for years with great success. If you use quality servos the need for repair is minimal. Tom Copp COMPOSITE SPECIALTIES 949 645 7032 ph/fax http://www.f3x.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] HN1038 airfoil for compufoil?
Title: HN1038 airfoil for compufoil? Here it is. Tom Copp COMPOSITE SPECIALTIES 949 645 7032 ph/fax http://www.f3x.com -Original Message- From: Doug Boyd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 7:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] HN1038 airfoil for compufoil? does anyone have the coordinates for the HN 1038 airfoil in a format that compufoil will accept? Even better, is there a utility that can convert formats? Doug HN1038.cor
[RCSE] Fly off rounds 1 2
* Report from Team Norway. * * 7. July 17:40 First fly off: Joe Wurts had two line breaks, and blew it! Larry Jolly landed early FAR out (Ben CLerx had a LONG run to retrieve the model), Stefan Eder landed early... Christer Lennartson flew a full round! Jan Kohout landed early. Second round: Joe Wurts made a "hero or zero" flight, far away alone, landed early... Larry Jolly had a second landing, not coming back to the field! Jan Kohout got applaus, maybe a 1000. Juniors starting now for two rounds, we'll be back with more news! PS! The starting line with 15 models are LONG, so it's very hard to give more details. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] RE: Big Fast slope plane
Hi Guys, Thanks Nathan for helping out. The Gambler I offer has an obechi skinned wing and tail. The description on my site is correct although the photo is not:) Fred Sage is building a few of his thermal wings around the Gambler fuse and I am sure he would be happy to make a carbon RG 15 wing for the slope to your specs. The Gambler fuse will probably fit inside the Diamond fuse (also wider than the eagle fuse) There is just enough room to place the servos side by side, longer boom, slip off nose, standard tail. The Miraj is a very competitive slope racer...FAST!! It's butt ugly but does the job. Also check out the Blitz from CSD. Nice model at a good price. If you have more questions email me off the list. Tom Copp COMPOSITE SPECIALTIES http://www.f3x.com -Original Message- From: Nathan Marni Woods [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2000 8:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] RE: Big Fast slope plane Brett, Tom Copp is in Torrey Pines this weekend, so he can't answer this post. I will copy him on it so he can correct my errors. Snip Cheers, Nathan Woods Webmaster: www.boomerangwings.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] You know your getting old when....
I must be getting old! I have a F3F race this weekend and I ordered some models in December so I would have them in time for the season. Because of one thing or another they haven't arrived yet. I was able to pry a Pike F3F model from Mark Taylor's cold dead fingers for this weekends race. I have a few 'Hot Laps" on the Pike at my local slope in Costa Mesa but that is all. The Pike is a very easy plane to fly and is quite fast, by all means a world class model. But it's not mine. As I was getting my work life in some kind of order so I can get away this weekend, the guy in the little truck pulled up and delivered my Acacia order. I tore open the box, found the hardware and assembled the model Yea Baby!! Now let me think, if I do an all niter I can get it together, get up early, pack the car, change my oil, drive to Los Banos before the sun sets for some trim flights, enter the contest, post fast time, win every round...Hey, after all the model is already built! The younger Tom would just be removing the wings from the bag of his next "World Beater" two days before the contest anyway. That set up was good for a few victories in the past, it also had a built in excuse for a bad showing! Now the Getting Old part. I didn't do it! I thought about it. I just couldn't do it. The thought of a good night sleep was too overpowering. (The bench was dirty anyway) The older (Wiser??) Tom Copp COMPOSITE SPECIALTIES http://www.f3x.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Passaj molded wing
I will post this here to cover the majority of requests for the Passaj. Thanks for all the interest on the Passaj wings. The wings are made in hard female molds with a solid 2 lb foam core. You need to cut and hinge the ailerons yourself. Fit 2 wing servos and linkage, put your radio into the wing root, cover and bond on the winglets. The wing comes in 2 pieces you fit the radio in the root. It has a carbon fiber wing rod. Slide the wing together and tape the joint and fly! It breaks down into a small package for transport and if you bolt on the winglets you can easily pack it to carry almost everywhere. I just ran out. I will place an order tomorrow for Passaj and Aldi j models. I should have them in 3 to 4 weeks. Tom Copp COMPOSITE SPECIALTIES http://www.f3x.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] Passa-J Molded flying wing
Hi Jim, I carry the complete line of Pyrenees models. I have some Passaj and Aldi J models in stock. I also carry the Muninch 60" sloper. These models will soon catch on in the USA, they offer great flying qualities at a good value. Check us out! Tom Copp COMPOSITE SPECIALTIES http://www.f3x.com -Original Message- From: James C Deck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 11, 2000 6:32 AM To: RCSE Subject: [RCSE] Passa-J Molded flying wing There is a web site at www.chez.com/aeromod/ that shows some pretty neat planes. Of particular interest is a sort of molded "Zagi" style flying wing, the Passa-J. As the site is in French and my command of the French language is only enough to allow ordering a good meal at a French eatery, I'd like to know more about the Passa-J and other planes described at this site. Does anyone import their products to the USA? What about prices and availability? Jim Deck [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] 4 Seiko Countdown watches left. (advertisement hit delete)
I have 4 Seiko Countdown stopwatches left for sale. Get them before the CASL 2 day. I will deliver to Phoenix if you put one on hold. See them under "accessories" on www.f3x.com Tom Copp COMPOSITE SPECIALTIES RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] F3J Team Hera Raffle
In order to head off any confusion for those on the waiting list for a Hera model. The Hera that was donated to the USA F3J team is my personal red/black Hera I bought last year as a backup. As you very well know the Hera shipments have been very, very slow. ICARE and Composite Specialties wanted to donate a model to the team to help raise money and the only Hera available in hand was mine. So I will have to fly my old beat up Hera for a while longer until my new one arrives..yes I still have to get on the waiting list. I hope this helps some and go out and get your tickets. This Hera really exists! Tom Copp Composite Specialties RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] need source for milled glass
Try Aircraft Spruce. http://www.aircraft-spruce.com/index.html Also buy 1 lb of cotton flox for a lighter, as strong (for hobby use) filler. Or go see your Christmas tree vendor and ask for some cotton snow stuff. Tom Donna Unruh wrote: Anyone know of a supplier for milled glass? Try Fiberglass,Composites,Resins -- Rich Border
[RCSE] RE: [inlandsloperebels] ISR club meeting
Hey everybody! Don't forget the next F3F race is at Torrey Pines on Sat 18th. I will plan to be set up by 12:00 so "Think Wind" and I will see you there. Tom Email Jerry with your entry info at :[EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] F3F race at Torrey Pines.
Hey everybody! Don't forget the next F3F race is at Torrey Pines on Sat 18th. I will plan to be set up by 12:00 so "Think Wind" and I will see you there. Tom Email Jerry with your entry info at :[EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] A Scoop/Cone Reno Air Races/world tour
Bill, I am running the F3F races in So Cal and would help you guys hold a F3F race at your site. There will probably be 4 or so European pilots and a few California guys. Keep in touch. Tom -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 10, 1999 10:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE] A Scoop/Cone Reno Air Races/world tour Walter - Reno R/C Slope Air Races...I talked with the guys...we're interested...suggestions? Bill Gillis Sierra Silent Soarers Reno, Nevada RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] Molded 'Herra' weight ?
Richard, The lightest one I weighed was 48oz dry. 68 oz RTF. Depending on radio and installation the average Hera weight is 71 oz RTF. The Hera "Special" w/ballast tubes and heavier wing lay up is about 75oz RTF. Tom Copp Composite Specialties Your friendly Hera dealer. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, December 04, 1999 3:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Molded 'Herra' weight ? Can anyone out there give me the weight of a Herra with and without radio installation? Thanks in advance! Richard Chicago RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] FW: [F3F] F3F race at Temple Hill, CA Nov 7
Due to the time change the race is moved to 1:00 weather permitting. We will not run a round zero in order to complete the minimum 4 rounds before dark. With your cooperation and good weather we should get in 5 rounds and have one throw out round for the race. I hope to see you all there. Yes, we are at it again! F3F race Temple Hill site in California Nov 7 be there before 12:30 to help out. (yes, you will be required to help :) ) Please contact Jerry Craft at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and give him your name, freq, AMA and club name so he can get you in the scoring computer. Contest info: * Trophies to 3rd place. * We will fly 4 rounds minimum with 1 throw out after 5 rounds * Unlimited class, FAI rules apply for surface loading. (60" planes are welcome!) * You can enter only 2 planes on the same freq and fly any one you want in any round. * Pilots can share planes. * Pilots will help call the turns. * You will have fun! * Entry fee; $10.00 More info and the F3F rules are at http://www.onelist.com/community/F3F you can easily join and search the "file" section for the rules and also check out some F3F plane photos. You can unsubscribe when you exit, if you like. For directions see: http://home.earthlink.net/~windrider007/index.html Come on out and give it a try! See ya there! Tom Copp 949-645-7032 "If the wind doesn't blow-it's not my fault" RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Stylus to Vanguard trainer
Hello, I have a need to hook up my Stylus to a 4 ch Vanguard for a training system. Will this work? Does the Vanguard work through the Stylus? Vanguard can be on a different channel. Will I still have the mixing when the Vanguard is active? i.e.. snap flap, crow, elevator comp? I am hoping that the Vanguard will be like remote sticks for the Stylus. Is this true? TIA, Tom RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] F3F Race Results
The wind blew all week! Then Saturday morning the whole world (Southern California anyway) was covered by a thick marine layer no wind, no sun, no thermals. We started when the wind blew enough to support flight; it was decided (by me) to start round zero. There was only 13 entered and for 1/2 the field, this was their first F3F race. Everyone worked well together and helped out with the task of running the race. The lift was flyable, probably very close to the F3F minimum velocity all day. There was actually a few times when the planes made that "go fast" sound. Well the goal of breaking into the 30's was modified to breaking into the 50's. Jerry Craft with his new Brisk II was closest with a 61.10. The lift was on the verge of requiring ballast, everyone tried to find the best wing loading to squeeze a little extra speed from the conditions. Bruce Beddoe flew his OD model very well to win a round and take 3rd, Bruce looked on track the whole day. I think the California F3F series is starting to dig up some very competitive pilots. Keep on coming!! I want to thank everyone who showed up and put in a long day. I hope you had some fun and can see the potential for competitive slope racing coming back to California. It will only work with your help. Tom Doug, Bruce, your "cheesy" awards are in the works. Please send me your address or a contact so I can get them to you. PointsName Plane - 1 3636.80Tom CoppKobra 23549.40Doug ReelOpus 33466.80Bruce Beddoe OD Sd8000 43418.60John Roe Viper 53418.30Jerry Craft Brisk II 63413.90Arthur MarkiewiczCobra 73413.00Bren Lugo F3B Eagle 83237.90Mike Robinson Blitz 93232.10Bruce Schaefer OD 10 3197.30Mark Taylor Diamond 11 3153.20Colin CraftBrisk II 12 2951.50Keith MilletOD 13 2831.70Dan Field Fun-1 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] New F3F toys!!
I just received my Pike F3F/B and Kobra F3F (not that cobra!) from Samba today. The Pike looks real good, 3 piece wing V tail etc. etc.. Fit and finish is very good. All wipers and live hinges (top hinge flap 60~65 deg down) finished. They come with all nutplates/pushrods installed and include all hardware and even the allen wrenches! The little Kobra F3F (100 in) is real cute. 2 piece wing with a poly break, one piece stab w/ elevator, T tail, all molded even the rudder. Pre assembled tail linkages/ pushrods w/4 ballast tubes in the wing roots. This thing breaks down flat to fit into a 50 in box. I think the Kobra will make a very nice full house travel model. Both have mod (thinned) RG 15 foils. I am looking forward to test flying them soon. Flight report coming!! Tom RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
