[RCSE] 9303

[Ira Faberman]

I have a low time, very clean JR9303 for sale with 72MHz (ch53) module and
2500mah battery. Protective plastic is still on the windows. Used only for
gliders so no slime ;) $300 shipped in the US.

Interested? Please contact me at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [RCSE] 9303 aileron to rudder coupling

[Mike Lachowski]

Or, you could try and use one of the flight modes as 0 rudder mix.  
Don't know if you use all 5 or have switches set so that you could use 
all fo them.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Mike, you are quite right, old habits.

I was trying to use the Aileron to Rudder standard mix rather than using
a separate programming mix.  I guess I have to set the pre-programmed
mix to 0 and go to the programmed mix.

I use on/off on my DLG so I can practice rudder with my left thumb.  I
prefer coupling, but I wanted to see a good roll with a new DLG just
built.  I set my rudder up exponentially, so that my rudder kicks in
fast before the aileron takes over.  I like more top-rudder ( believe
that is what that is).  I found recently I was cross-coupling the
aileron and rudder for flatter turns.  My old habits go back to just
rudder elevator on planes with more dihedral.

Thanks for the help.

Chris


  

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [RCSE] 9303 aileron to rudder coupling
From: Mike Lachowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, June 04, 2008 2:46 pm
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: "soaring@airage.com" 

Some old habits don't go away... Normally aileron to rudder coupling is
set up by flight mode.   Flight modes make it possible to have more than
two mixes.  In fact for aileron to rudder, you should set the mix to
100% in launch mode in case you forget to use the correct stick.

My suggestion if you want on/off mixing would be to use one of the
programmable mixers.  Configure aileron to rudder.  Have the mix switch
change you to position 1.  Set the aileron to rudder mix rates you want
for position 0 and then leave the mixes for position 1 at 0.   In
reality you probably don't want to go to 0, just a very low value.  So
you could set position 1 to some small numbers like 6 or 7.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I am trying to set up my 9303 to turn off the aileron rudder coupling
via the right back Mix switch. I have been unable to locate the setup as
I had on my 8103.  Can some help with a pointer on how to do it?

Thanks
  

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RE: [RCSE] 9303 aileron to rudder coupling

[chris]

Mike, you are quite right, old habits.

I was trying to use the Aileron to Rudder standard mix rather than using
a separate programming mix.  I guess I have to set the pre-programmed
mix to 0 and go to the programmed mix.

I use on/off on my DLG so I can practice rudder with my left thumb.  I
prefer coupling, but I wanted to see a good roll with a new DLG just
built.  I set my rudder up exponentially, so that my rudder kicks in
fast before the aileron takes over.  I like more top-rudder ( believe
that is what that is).  I found recently I was cross-coupling the
aileron and rudder for flatter turns.  My old habits go back to just
rudder elevator on planes with more dihedral.

Thanks for the help.

Chris


>  Original Message 
> Subject: Re: [RCSE] 9303 aileron to rudder coupling
> From: Mike Lachowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Wed, June 04, 2008 2:46 pm
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: "soaring@airage.com" 
>
> Some old habits don't go away... Normally aileron to rudder coupling is
> set up by flight mode.   Flight modes make it possible to have more than
> two mixes.  In fact for aileron to rudder, you should set the mix to
> 100% in launch mode in case you forget to use the correct stick.
>
> My suggestion if you want on/off mixing would be to use one of the
> programmable mixers.  Configure aileron to rudder.  Have the mix switch
> change you to position 1.  Set the aileron to rudder mix rates you want
> for position 0 and then leave the mixes for position 1 at 0.   In
> reality you probably don't want to go to 0, just a very low value.  So
> you could set position 1 to some small numbers like 6 or 7.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I am trying to set up my 9303 to turn off the aileron rudder coupling
> > via the right back Mix switch. I have been unable to locate the setup as
> > I had on my 8103.  Can some help with a pointer on how to do it?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Chris
> >
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Re: [RCSE] 9303 aileron to rudder coupling

[Mike Lachowski]

Some old habits don't go away... Normally aileron to rudder coupling is 
set up by flight mode.   Flight modes make it possible to have more than 
two mixes.  In fact for aileron to rudder, you should set the mix to 
100% in launch mode in case you forget to use the correct stick.


My suggestion if you want on/off mixing would be to use one of the 
programmable mixers.  Configure aileron to rudder.  Have the mix switch 
change you to position 1.  Set the aileron to rudder mix rates you want 
for position 0 and then leave the mixes for position 1 at 0.   In 
reality you probably don't want to go to 0, just a very low value.  So 
you could set position 1 to some small numbers like 6 or 7.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I am trying to set up my 9303 to turn off the aileron rudder coupling
via the right back Mix switch. I have been unable to locate the setup as
I had on my 8103.  Can some help with a pointer on how to do it?

Thanks
Chris


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[RCSE] 9303 aileron to rudder coupling

[chris]

I am trying to set up my 9303 to turn off the aileron rudder coupling
via the right back Mix switch. I have been unable to locate the setup as
I had on my 8103.  Can some help with a pointer on how to do it?

Thanks
Chris


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[RCSE] 9303 w/2.4 module question

[BCLERX]

You can switch between the two Tx antenna systems in less than a minute, so 
I'm not sure mounting the 2.4 antenna on top of the 72 MHz collapsed Tx antenna 
will save you much time. The actual 2.4 antenna can be mounted nearly anyway 
you want, but you need to have the ability to keep it perpendicular to the 
aircraft for max range. Yeah, you could slip it over the stub of the 72MHz 
antenna and secure it with tape, but why? It only takes a few seconds to 
unscrew the 
regular 72MHz antenna and screw in the plastic 2.4 GHz antenna mount (it is 
only a mount and not part of the antenna system). Slipping it over the other 
antenna will probably not affect range, but a ground range check should reveal 
any problems. I can't make any guarantees since I have't tried it.

Ben Clerx

I have a 9303 with a 2.4 module.  The 2.4 antenna mount uses a plastic adap=
ter which screws in to replace the 72 mhz antenna. =20

Is there any reason I cannot simply mount the 2.4 antenna on top of the col=
lapsed 72 mhz antenna?  In other words, do I have to remove the 72 mhz ante=
nna?

Robert Samuels ... St. Louis


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[RCSE] 9303 w/2.4 module question

[Robert Samuels]

I have a 9303 with a 2.4 module.  The 2.4 antenna mount uses a plastic adapter 
which screws in to replace the 72 mhz antenna.  

Is there any reason I cannot simply mount the 2.4 antenna on top of the 
collapsed 72 mhz antenna?  In other words, do I have to remove the 72 mhz 
antenna?

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[RCSE] 9303 Ham Module

[Tom Copp]

Hi Guys,

I have a NIB 03 Ham TX Module here for the 9303/10X for sale.

Email me off the list if your interested.

 

Tom Copp

Composite Specialties

www.f3x.com   

949-645-7032

 

 

Re: [RCSE] 9303???

[Marta Zavala]

Thanks guys.  Yes a local guy also said the 
switch placment on the Heli version seemed to be better for certain 
things.  Just wanted to make absolutely certain the heli version would work 
for sailplanes as well before I decide to buy one.
Than ks again, Walter

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Rob Davis 
  
  To: 'Marta Zavala' ; soaring@airage.com 
  Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 8:37 
PM
  Subject: RE: [RCSE] 9303???
  
  
  I fly both Heli’s and 
  Sailplanes and have the 9303 heli version.  I prefer the switch placement 
  of the Heli version.  
   
  Rob
   
  
  
  
  
  From: Marta 
  Zavala [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 7:03 PMTo: soaring@airage.comSubject: [RCSE] 
  9303???
   
  
  Does the JR 9303 Heli version have 
  all the sailplane programming available in it as well?  I have heard it 
  does with the big difference between it and the airplane/sailplane version 
  being switch location?
  
  thanks, 
  Walter

RE: [RCSE] 9303???

[Rob Davis]

I fly both Heli’s and Sailplanes and
have the 9303 heli version.  I prefer the switch placement of the Heli
version.  

 

Rob

 









From: Marta Zavala
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 7:03 PM
To: soaring@airage.com
Subject: [RCSE] 9303???



 



Does the JR 9303 Heli version have all the sailplane
programming available in it as well?  I have heard it does with the big
difference between it and the airplane/sailplane version being switch location?





thanks, Walter

RE: [RCSE] 9303???

[Sheldon-YNT uDesign]

Yes it does...All the aircraft types are 
incorporated.
 
-Sheldon-


From: Marta Zavala 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 
8:03 PMTo: soaring@airage.comSubject: [RCSE] 
9303???

Does the JR 9303 Heli version have all the 
sailplane programming available in it as well?  I have heard it does with 
the big difference between it and the airplane/sailplane version being switch 
location?
thanks, Walter

RE: [RCSE] 9303???

[Jon Stone]

Title: Message



the software in 
all 9303's is identical.  Only differences are switches, and labels on 
them.
 
Jon
 

  
  -Original Message-From: Marta Zavala 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 05, 
  2006 7:03 PMTo: soaring@airage.comSubject: [RCSE] 
  9303???
  Does the JR 9303 Heli version have all the 
  sailplane programming available in it as well?  I have heard it does with 
  the big difference between it and the airplane/sailplane version being switch 
  location?
  thanks, 
Walter

[RCSE] 9303???

[Marta Zavala]

Does the JR 9303 Heli version have all the 
sailplane programming available in it as well?  I have heard it does with 
the big difference between it and the airplane/sailplane version being switch 
location?
thanks, Walter

[RCSE] 9303 Help Needed...badly :(

[Todd Larsen]

Hi All,


I am in the process of "learning" how to work the new 9303.  I am a
basic "slopehead" and am looking for F3F set-up and DS setup...got one
bird programmed and "flyable" just not using the endless options of this
beauty properly.  I am not the sharpest tool in the shed when it comes to
programming these puppiesjust struggling!  Tried Horizon for some "help"
and got a very nice fellow on line, but the problem was, He hadn't had much
experience with the TX eitherHe reccomended that I post up and ask the
"Pro's" for the help I need.  So, with all that said, IF you own a 9303 and
are blessed with the patience to help out others PLEASE, PLEASE write to me
or call me...831-620-1852.

Thank You in advance for whatever help is offered!  :)

Todd

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[RCSE] 9303 Left Handed DLG Setup

[Michael Conte]

All,

Background:  I'm left handed and fly DLG's (among other airplanes) and 
recently got a 9303.  I got the Heli version because I like having a 
spring switch vs. the push button that's on the left side of the 
sailplane and acro TXs.  Anyway, since I throw left handed I like 
having my launch switch for DLGs on the right side of my TX.  I really 
wanted to move the spring switch to the right side of my TX but was 
apprehensive,


This weekend I threw caution to the wind and moved the switch.  Here's 
how I did it.  First I disconnected the battery and removed the back of 
the TX.  Next I unplugged the wiring harness that connects the back to 
the front.  Then I removed the switches from their mounting holes.  I 
used a multi-meter to figure out whether the spring switch defaulted to 
an open or closed circuit.  In order for it to work for me on the other 
side of the TX, I needed to move the black wire on the spring switch to 
the opposite end of the switch so it defaults to a closed circuit.  
After I did this, I unsoldered the wires that connect the switches to 
the circuit board on the back of the TX.  Finally, I switched the 
switches to the appropriate sides and soldered everything back.  So now 
I have a long two position toggle switch on the left side of my TX 
(timer start/stop) and a spring loaded long switch (DLG launch) on the 
right side of the TX.  I'm sure the warrantee is voided (although my 
solder joints are perfect :), but it works for me.  BTW, I love the 
flight mode feature of this TX.


Mike
Las Vegas, NV 


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[RCSE] 9303 help

[mrmaserati]

I am trying to program my 9303 to drive a PolySergio, v-tails, and flaps and a 
Himax outrunner. The Rx is a Shadow 3 with the deault pin setup. I would like 
to operate the flaps with the LH stick and the throttle with the LH side rotary 
lever. I have the V-tails ok but I can't get the rest even close.

Does anyone out there have the solution ?

Regards and thanks in advance, 

Dave Corven.
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Re: [RCSE] 9303 or 10X Programming assistance

[Michael Lachowski]

That will work OK.  You will probabably have to use a Y connector or 
matchbox to run both the spoiler servos and use a mixing curve to do the 
throttle stick to spoiler mixing.


I have not tried anything like that on a 9303. You only have 9 channels 
there and obviously you have 10 servos in the 8 wing servo model. But 
with the modified channel output pattern for the sailplane configs, you 
should not have much of a problem using all 9 channels.


If your flaps will always be used just as flaps (never ailerons) then 
treat the outter ailerons as the ailerons, the inner ailerons as the 
flaps for your normal channels.  Then use mixers to create the flap and 
spoiler mixes.


Now all you need are retracts and tow release...

Lydon, Matthew (NBC Universal) wrote:



Mike Lachowski wrote up a nice guide to doing a 6 servo wing - 
http://www.eclipse.net/~mikel/10X/Escape10X.html


He's also got a link to the setup, so you can download it into your radio

 


You might be able to modify it for your 8 servo.

 


Matt

 


From: George Voss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 1:52 PM
To: RCSE
Subject: [RCSE] 9303 or 10X Programming assistance

 

I've got 2 sailplanes that I need programming assistance.  They have 6 
and 8 servo wings.  I'd like to have them programmed like a normal 4 
servo wing in a competition sailplane, with the addition the following:  
The 8 servo wing has spoilers, inner and outer ailerons and flaps.  I'd 
like to be able to allow the outer ailerons to always work as ailerons.  
The inner ailerons will work as ailerons part of the time, then I want 
to be able to flip a switch or go into a flight mode and have the 
ailerons cambered with the flaps.  I want the ailerons to come down ½ 
way with the flap stick, then start going up.  At the ½ way point of the 
flap stick movement, the spoilers come up.


The 6 servo wing doesn't have spoilers, and I want to be able to do the 
same thing as above.  Does anyone have a 9303 or 10X programmed to do 
this type of mixing?  It would save me a tremendous amount of 
programming time and headache.  TIA  gv



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RE: [RCSE] 9303 or 10X Programming assistance

[Lydon, Matthew (NBC Universal)]

Title: 9303 or 10X Programming assistance








Mike Lachowski wrote up a nice guide to
doing a 6 servo wing - http://www.eclipse.net/~mikel/10X/Escape10X.html

He's also got a link to the setup,
so you can download it into your radio

 

You might be able to modify it for your 8
servo.

 

Matt

 









From: George Voss
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005
1:52 PM
To: RCSE
Subject: [RCSE] 9303 or 10X
Programming assistance



 

I've
got 2 sailplanes that I need programming assistance.  They have 6 and 8
servo wings.  I'd like to have them programmed
like a normal 4 servo wing in a competition sailplane, with the
addition the following:  The 8 servo wing has spoilers, inner and outer
ailerons
and flaps.  I'd like to be able to allow the outer ailerons to
always work as ailerons.  The inner ailerons will work as ailerons
part
of the time, then I want to be able to flip a switch or go into a flight mode
and have the ailerons cambered with the flaps.  I want the ailerons to
come down ½ way with the flap stick, then start going up.  At the
½ way
point of the flap stick movement, the spoilers come up.

The
6 servo wing doesn't have spoilers, and I want to be
able to do the same thing as above.  Does anyone have a 9303 or 10X
programmed
to do this type of mixing?  It would save me a tremendous amount of
programming time and headache.  TIA  gv 

[RCSE] 9303 or 10X Programming assistance

[George Voss]

Title: 9303 or 10X Programming assistance






I’ve got 2 sailplanes that I need programming assistance.  They have 6 and 8 servo wings.  I’d like to have them programmed like a normal 4 servo wing in a competition sailplane, with the addition the following:  The 8 servo wing has spoilers, inner and outer ailerons and flaps.  I’d like to be able to allow the outer ailerons to always work as ailerons.  The inner ailerons will work as ailerons part of the time, then I want to be able to flip a switch or go into a flight mode and have the ailerons cambered with the flaps.  I want the ailerons to come down ½ way with the flap stick, then start going up.  At the ½ way point of the flap stick movement, the spoilers come up.

The 6 servo wing doesn’t have spoilers, and I want to be able to do the same thing as above.  Does anyone have a 9303 or 10X programmed to do this type of mixing?  It would save me a tremendous amount of programming time and headache.  TIA  gv 

Re: Re: [RCSE] 9303

[James V. Bacus]

We found Butch at the FRU in Muncie curled up on TK's jacket in the cab 
seat of his van.  Butch knows where to find shade and the most comfortable 
spots to lounge on a flying field!


(look at the first 3 shots)
http://www.jimbacus.net/soaring/OVSS_8_2005/pages/DSC03487.html





At 12:31 PM 10/6/2005, Pat McCleave wrote:
Of course you left out the part about Johnny having one of the lasiest 
dogs around.  Butch sure is partial to his pile of ice though. :o)


Jim
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Re: Re: [RCSE] 9303

[Pat McCleave]

Jeff,

Well said.  Of course you left out the part about Johnny having one of the 
lasiest dogs around.  Butch sure is partial to his pile of ice though. :o)

See Ya,

Pat McCleave
Wichita, KS


> 
> From: Jeff Steifel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2005/10/06 Thu PM 12:56:06 EDT
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> CC: soaring 
> Subject: Re: [RCSE] 9303
> 
> Johnny will get back to you. It might take a day.
> 
> He doesn't have a website.
> But Johnny supports us glider pilots.. provides repair stuff at the 
> Nats, is a good all around guy...He also provides raffle gifts for the 
> Nats workers..
> So I'll support him.. I used to have a local hobby store until I moved 
> away... I supported them. If you don't have a local store definetly 
> consider supporting the little guy. His prices are good, his service is 
> good..
> 
> 
> 
> david alchin wrote:
> 
> >Thanks for the response regarding my request I was looking for a used or
> >unwanted gift 9303 Tx however I did send an e-mail to Johnny Berlin I also
> >tried to locate the web site RC Hanger all to no avail.
> >
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Re: [RCSE] 9303

[Jeff Steifel]

Johnny will get back to you. It might take a day.

He doesn't have a website.
But Johnny supports us glider pilots.. provides repair stuff at the 
Nats, is a good all around guy...He also provides raffle gifts for the 
Nats workers..
So I'll support him.. I used to have a local hobby store until I moved 
away... I supported them. If you don't have a local store definetly 
consider supporting the little guy. His prices are good, his service is 
good..




david alchin wrote:


Thanks for the response regarding my request I was looking for a used or
unwanted gift 9303 Tx however I did send an e-mail to Johnny Berlin I also
tried to locate the web site RC Hanger all to no avail.

david alchin
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[RCSE] 9303

[david alchin]

Thanks for the response regarding my request I was looking for a used or
unwanted gift 9303 Tx however I did send an e-mail to Johnny Berlin I also
tried to locate the web site RC Hanger all to no avail.

david alchin
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[RCSE] 9303 FS

[Lydon, Matthew (NBC Universal)]

Nearly new (2 months old and used maybe 2 hours) 9303, with
charger, manual, module (ch. 35)

 

$375 shipped

 

Matt

Re: [RCSE] 9303 driving a Berg 4

[mrmaserati]

Hi Larry, I can't get the v-tail function to work in the sailplane mode, nor 
the throttle. I have to use the acro mode to get throttle on the left stick and 
I haven't figured out how to get the flap servo to operate from either of the 
side levers.

Maybe i need more rx channels or a shadow rx that allows you to program the rx 
channels.

Regards, Dave Corven.


> What kind of problem are you having? I've only used a 9 channel Receiver and 
> would like to know what type of problem you are having on a 4 channel 
> receiver. I just picked up a 6 channel receiver and may have problems also. 
> Have not tried it out yet.
> Larry Taylor KF6JBG
> CD for the Visalia Fall Soaring Festival
> 2005  Oct 1st & 2nd
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> Subject: [RCSE] 9303 driving a Berg 4
> 
> 
> >I have been trying to set up my 9303 to drive a Berg 4 micro stamp 2 in a 
> >Poly Sergio V-tail, electric sailplane for F5J.
> >
> > Any thoughts out there ? This bird has flaps as well, driven by one servo.
> >
> > I am using a AstroFlight 215D ESC also.
> >
> > Regards, Dave Corven.
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[RCSE] 9303 driving a Berg 4

[mrmaserati]

I have been trying to set up my 9303 to drive a Berg 4 micro stamp 2 in a Poly 
Sergio V-tail, electric sailplane for F5J.

Any thoughts out there ? This bird has flaps as well, driven by one servo.

I am using a AstroFlight 215D ESC also.

Regards, Dave Corven.
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Re: [RCSE] 9303

[Matt Lydon]

claude60 wrote:
How do I disable the gear switch so that it has no efect on the flaps.
Currently  the gear switch turns the flaps on and off, I would prefer
that it had no efect  at all on the left stick. Thanks, first time
programing the 9303.
 

Sounds like you might have the transmitter set for acro mode instead of 
glider...

Matt
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Re: [RCSE] 9303

[DUWorm]

In a message dated 5/11/2005 12:45:14 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
How do I 
  disable the gear switch so that it has no efect on the 
  flaps.Currently  the gear switch turns the flaps on and off, I would 
  preferthat it had no efect  at all on the left stick. Thanks, first 
  timeprograming the 9303

Too little information to comment.
 
What are you calling the gear switch, the tall two position switch on the 
upper left and back of radio or you calling g it the two position push button 
switch?  
 
What receiver channels are your flaps plugged into?
 
Is dual flap active or inactive?
 
What mix are you using to activate the flaps?  The various options 
would be:
1.y harness to the flaps and plug the other end 
into the motor (spoiler/flap stick)
2.Butterfly
3.Using a nondedicated mix 2 through 6
 
What is the "Effect" you are talking about.  Does it change the flap 
movement or simply turn them off or on?  
 
Are you using flight modes?
 
thanks 
 
Sherman 
KnightThe Law Offices of Sherman L Knight5400 Carillon PointKirkland 
WA 98033425-576-4028 wk425-576-4029 fax425-822-9305 
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[RCSE] 9303

[paul bell]

thanks to all who responded to my questions regarding 9303 xmitter puzzles.
paul bell

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[RCSE] 9303 Aux. Batt.

[Dudley Dufort]

Cross country and other long duration flying requires greater 
transmitter battery capacity than is available in the stock radio.  
George Steiner and I came up with a quick fix for those occasions when 
an additional battery is needed to buy more flight time.  I'll be happy 
to share our modification with those interested.  Reply off list.  Dudley

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[RCSE] 9303 xmitter

[paul bell]

got my 9303 all set up on aegea mantis, but do not find camber mix menu as
shown in manual.  what did i miss??

paul bell

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[RCSE] 9303 and Berg rec

[Goinav8n]

Has anyone programmed these for a DLG.  If so could you share your
setup

Jeff


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[RCSE] 9303 Copy Function

[Byron Blakeslee]

    To new JR 9303 transmitter owners:  

    If you've wondered if a COPY function is 
installed (the instruction book doesn't say anything about it), it is included 
in the Model Select function.  Click on SELECT and COPY will come up.  
Enter the "Copy From" and "Copy To" models as usual and then press 
CLR.
    The 9303 is a powerful sailplane 
transmitter but the instruction book leaves much to be desired.  I'm sure 
someone out there will soon produce a definitive write-up on the 9303 - as 
Sherman Knight did for the 8103 .
 
    Byron Blakeslee, RMSA 
Denver

RE: [RCSE] 9303 Sailplane Modification

[Hall, Stuart A]

Wow, seems like yet another reason to buy an Evo 9. :-)

-Original Message- 
From: Hank Schorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thu 2/24/2005 12:05 PM 
To: soaring@airage.com 
Cc: 
Subject: [RCSE] 9303 Sailplane Modification



After using it for around 3 months in the conventional way (way it was 
intended to be used), I modified my JR 9303. This was also prompted by the way 
Joe has set up his 9303. He programmed the Elev D/R switch on the far left to 
be launch mode on/off  (toward you or down is on), and he programmed the 
Land/Cruise/Launch switch to be Thermal/Cruise/Speed. I think he also had to 
change the wiring on one of the switches, or turn it around. This allows all of 
the various modes to be accessed with your left thumb so that you can keep your 
right hand on the stick where it belongs.

 

My solution was slightly different, and required a tiny bit of easy 
rewiring and relocation which is very easy on this radio. The total 
modification took around 45 minutes including figuring out what to do.

 

The result is that my far left switch is Launch/Cruise/Land switch 
moved over one position to the left and rotated 180 degrees so that Launch mode 
is toward you (down) and Landing Mode is full up or away. The three position 
switch from the right (Thermal/Cruise/Speed) is then relocated where the left 
three position switch was located (requires one longer wire). The Elev D/R 
switch that was on the far left is now where the Thermal/Cruise/Speed switch 
was located next to the Ail D/R switch.   

 

The radio front panel switches are now located as follows (from left to 
right):

 

Land  Speed   Flap TrimAux Trim 
 Elev D/R  Aile D/R

CruiseCruise

Launch   Thermal

 

I will be modifying another for a friend and I will take some pictures 
of what to do. If anyone else is interested just email me direct and I can send 
you the info on how to do it.   

 

 

 

 

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[RCSE] 9303 Sailplane Modification

[Hank Schorz]

After using it for around 3 months in the conventional way
(way it was intended to be used), I modified my JR 9303. This was also prompted
by the way Joe has set up his 9303. He programmed the Elev D/R switch on the
far left to be launch mode on/off  (toward you or down is on), and he
programmed the Land/Cruise/Launch switch to be Thermal/Cruise/Speed. I think he
also had to change the wiring on one of the switches, or turn it around. This
allows all of the various modes to be accessed with your left thumb so that you
can keep your right hand on the stick where it belongs.

 

My solution was slightly different, and required a tiny bit
of easy rewiring and relocation which is very easy on this radio. The total
modification took around 45 minutes including figuring out what to do.

 

The result is that my far left switch is Launch/Cruise/Land
switch moved over one position to the left and rotated 180 degrees so that
Launch mode is toward you (down) and Landing Mode is full up or away. The three
position switch from the right (Thermal/Cruise/Speed) is then relocated where
the left three position switch was located (requires one longer wire). The Elev
D/R switch that was on the far left is now where the Thermal/Cruise/Speed
switch was located next to the Ail D/R switch.   

 

The radio front panel switches are now located as follows
(from left to right):

 

Land  Speed   Flap Trim    Aux
Trim  Elev D/R  Aile D/R

Cruise    Cruise

Launch   Thermal

 

I will be modifying another for a friend and I will take
some pictures of what to do. If anyone else is interested just email me direct
and I can send you the info on how to do it.   

 

 

 

 

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ACT Litigation Services

 

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Re: [RCSE] 9303 camber program question

[Michael Lachowski]

I don't use camber sliders.  I always use presets.

Have you tried reflex?  Do you have to make the aileron travel go to 150%
for reflex to work properly?  I always make sure that I have travels set so
that camber moves the entire TE evenly. Either through increasing travel or
increasing the mix rate.  This is because I always use elevator to camber
mix and want that to work right.  Actual presets for camber, reflex, launch
come later.  The travel amounts have to be set to deal with whatever horn
lengths and servo arms you have on your equipment.  Besides long aileron
horns (or short aileron servo arms, you might also have really short flap
linkage.  Do you have zero for the subtrim on the flaps, which means you 
are only using half the servo travel for down flap? You might be able to
offset the flap neutral to use more servo travel to get down flap and
adjust your flap horns.

If you don't use elevator to camber, or a slider, the 9303 can just use the
flight mode presets which can be set individually for ailerons and flaps.


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Re: [RCSE] 9303 camber program question

[James V. Bacus]

I agree, there must be an easier way because I did not have to do this to 
get mine to work properly.  Are you following the setup guide by John Adams 
on page S40 in the manual?


At 10:01 PM 2/23/2005, you wrote:
The 150% down required is in travel adjust.  The proper amount of up and 
down is then done with differential.  I keep thinking there is an easier 
way on the 9303, therefore the question posted on the exchange.Tom
Jim
Downers Grove, IL
Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR
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Re: [RCSE] 9303 camber program/General Camber Question

[James V. Bacus]

Last season alone I can think of 4 times where I overheard pilots in my 
flight group saying after landing, "Oh DUDE, I flew that flight with my 
reflex on"

Even better, last season I timed for a guy who maxxed a 10 with launch mode 
left on...  8-)


At 09:55 PM 2/23/2005, Tom Watson wrote:
Reflex is on the left slider (normally left engaged at full travel) and 
actuated by the snap roll button...reflex thus can't be left on by 
mistake.  I pirated this idea from Jim Bacus.
Jim
Downers Grove, IL
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Re: [RCSE] 9303 camber program question

[TGRESSMAN]

Thanks Mike for the response.  We get the travel by going to 150% down on the travel adjust with the ailerons and then using differential to get the proper up and down.  We just thought that there may be an easier way with the 9303.  Are you using the left slider to get camber?  If so exactly what is your program?  We use the above and then go to flap rate followed by flaperon mix.  Tom

Re: [RCSE] 9303 camber program question

[TGRESSMAN]

The 150% down required is in travel adjust.  The proper amount of up and down is then done with differential.  I keep thinking there is an easier way on the 9303, therefore the question posted on the exchange.    Tom

Re: [RCSE] 9303 camber program/General Camber Question

[Tom Watson]

On the 10X, I like camber on the right slider (full slider travel sets 
appropriate camber - no guessing at midpoints) because I can instantly 
tell by feel whether camber is set.  Don't have to move my thumbs off 
the sticks, or worry about bumping the wrong switch.

Reflex is on the left slider (normally left engaged at full travel) and 
actuated by the snap roll button...reflex thus can't be left on by 
mistake.  I pirated this idea from Jim Bacus.

Tom

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I haven't used a slider for camber control in over 10 years (since the 
Airtronics Vision). For a given angle of attack there is only one flap 
setting that will result in minimum drag, be it positive camber for high 
AOA or negative camber (reflex) for lower AOA's.
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Re: [RCSE] 9303 camber program question

[James V. Bacus]

At 12:49 PM 2/23/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My soaring buddy and I have had difficulty in setting up camber using the 
left side lever.  In order to get the ailerons and flaps to move in unison 
we find that 150% of down aileron is required.
Where are you entering in 150% of down aileron, the sub trim?

 Are we missing a key step here that would simplify without having to 
establish this large aileron down travel?
This is quite possible, I didn't have to do this to get camber to work on 
the left side lever on my 9303 setup.

I like to use the side lever for camber adjustment, but much of the time it 
goes to the same point so on my 9303 I will try to use the triple switch 
reflex / cruise / thermal with some presets this season.  I will still keep 
the slide bar functionality, because there are times when I need more or 
less travel there, like I might pull the entire trailing edge down to half 
of what I might use as a launch setup for the bungee or windy days.  I use 
it to attenuate my flight speed at times as well.

On my 10x the reflex goes to a preset with the snap roll button, and the 
left lever does camber.

Jim
Downers Grove, IL
Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR
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Re: [RCSE] 9303 camber program question

[Michael Lachowski]

The travel amounts vary with the linkage setups.  If you find that the 
ailerons don't move enough for equal travel across the flaps and 
ailerons, you should increase the aileron travel (both up and down) and 
then use the dual rate settings to reduce the total aileron travel off 
the stick so it's not too sensitive.  Usually this happens when the 
aileron horns are long.

This applies also applies to the 8103, 388, 783, etc.
With the 9303, the presets in the flight modes are the best solution for 
camber, reflex settings.  But you still need to even out the travel if 
you use elevator to camber mixing on the wing.

The combination of fixed presets and elevator to camber mixing is about 
the best you can do.  Most airfoils have some pretty definite presets. 
The elevator to camber mixes help out especially if you input a lot of 
elevator Most of the airfoils get real draggy as you transition through 
very low Cl's into negative Cl's and only a lot of reflex helps.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My soaring buddy and I have had difficulty in setting up camber using the left 
side lever.  In order to get the ailerons and flaps to move in unison we find 
that 150% of down aileron is required.  We then use flap rate and flaperon mix. 
 Are we missing a key step here that would simplify without having to establish 
this large aileron down travel?  Tom Gressman/RMSA/Denver
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[RCSE] 9303 camber program/General Camber Question

[BCLERX]

Hi Tom
 
I haven't used a slider for camber control in over 10 years (since the 
Airtronics Vision). For a given angle of attack there is only one flap setting 
that will result in minimum drag, be it positive camber for high AOA or negative 
camber (reflex) for lower AOA's.
 
Airfoils obviously are designed to need no camber changing devices when 
near their "normal" AOA (for soaring, this would be near Best or 
Max L/D AOA). Deviations from Max L/D AOA may benefit from small changes in 
camber to reduce drag. 
 
Some airfoils respond well to camber changing. Some thin, low cambered 
airfoils, don't like high AOA's and respond well to a little camber at high AOA 
(the Nyx comes to mind here). Higher cambered airfoils like the 7037 do fine 
without camber. Although they may benefit with a little camber near the stalling 
AOA, the benefit won't be as noticeable as with the low cambered airfoil. You 
really need to deviate quite a bit from Max L/D AOA to need positive or negative 
camber, i.e. flying very slow in a thermal or pushing hard and fast. If you're 
using more than a few degrees either way, you're probably using too much. Play 
with 1/16 to 3/16 inch of positive and negative camber on a toggle switch and 
save yourself the hassle of messing with the slider. I'll agree with George 
Voss--The odds of you selecting the correct camber setting with the slider while 
thermalling is slim to none.
 
Try putting Launch/Cruise on a 2 position switch and Thermal/ Speed on a 3 
position switch (all as presets) and do away with the slider. 
 
Sorry, I know I haven't answered your original question (my 9303 is too new 
for me to have figured out the answer to that. If you figure it out, let me know 
just for my general knowledge). Try Tom Copp at www.F3X.com. He might be able to give you an 
answer since he's proficient with the radio. He also has a couple JR manuals on 
his website that have instructions for setting up a sailplane.
 
Ben Clerx
 
 

RE: [RCSE] 9303 camber program question/General Camber Question

[George Voss]

I see and read of a number of people who ask about camber control on a
slider.  I used to use sliders for camber also but I've changed to the
3-position switch on the upper left of my TX.

My question is: Why use a slider when the plane responds best at 2 specific
locations for camber/reflex?

I used to fly a Lovesong in competition.  It responded to 3-degrees of
reflex (approx. 1/8") and about the same amount for camber control.  I tried
a number of different positions and like Michael Selig discovered, the
3-degrees was about right.

I fly an Icon now and it too responds to a small amount of reflex and
camber.  Why not put the camber on a switch instead of a slider?  If we only
use a small amount, say less than 1/8", there is little difference in the
way the plane handles yet we have to spend energy/attention making sure the
slider would be in the correct position.  It seems easier to me to use the
switch.  What are others thoughts, Daryl P.? Joe W.?  gv

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[RCSE] 9303 camber program question

[TGRESSMAN]

My soaring buddy and I have had difficulty in setting up camber using the left 
side lever.  In order to get the ailerons and flaps to move in unison we find 
that 150% of down aileron is required.  We then use flap rate and flaperon mix. 
 Are we missing a key step here that would simplify without having to establish 
this large aileron down travel?  Tom Gressman/RMSA/Denver
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Re: [RCSE] 9303 questions

[Barry Andersen]

A fine radio, with not so fine documentation.
First suggestion, go to the Horizon website and download the JRP9249 
manual.  That's the standard airplane manual.  It does have the copy 
function listed.

In brief:
go into model select, what's not intuitive is that you have to 
highlight the "select"  text then press the cricket wheel.  This 
changes the function from select to copy.  Hard to find if you don't 
know where to look.

Be sure the model you want to copy is already selected, then select the 
model number to copy to. Rename as needed. Viola

If you haven't fiddled with the little flap trim and flaperon trim 
slide switches at the top.  Give them a push.  They make re-centering 
existing glued in servos a breeze.  Another major feature that is 
undocumented.

I'm just making the transition myself.
Barry
On Feb 15, 2005, at 10:23 PM, James R MacLean wrote:
Just got my 9303 and starting to charge batteries and read the manual. 
A
few general questions arise:
Is there a copy function to make duplication of similiar models easier?
Is there a diode in the charging circuit?
I would like to use a larger (1650 mah which is the same physical size)
NiMH battery. The battery connector is different from the usual Molex
type. Any thoughts?

I was surprised by one thing, the sailplane version only comes with a
sailplane manual which does not give much help in setting up a power
plane.  I wanted to fly the radio and receiver in my "mule" plane 
looking
for infant failures in a cheap plane which vibrates a bit also.  Have 
to
mail in request for a manual or download from the net.  Kind of a lot 
of
pages to have to print out at work.

There is also the "reversed" charging plug polarity. Anyone haave an 
idea
about how the input circuit is arranged?  It should be possible to add 
a
small but rugged diode which will protect the transmitter "innards" 
from
a reversed input long enough to blow the input fuse.  I think some have
just rewired the input connector which is certainly easy enough but 
hard
to mark in a way to preclude trying to use a JR charger as it would
normaly be used.

Thanks for any thoughts.  Looking forward to using this excellent 
radio.
Jim MacLean
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[RCSE] 9303 Question

[Jim McCarthy]

Title: Message



There is a copy 
function. Although the manual does not show it, it is actually present in the 
main setup menu. You can access it under the model select menu which will allow 
you to copy one model to another. Feel free to drop me a note for any other 
questions.
 
Jim 
McCarthy
 

RE: [RCSE] 9303 questions

[John Derstine]

There should be a card in your box to send for the other manuals no
charge, or go to Horizons web site and down load a pdf file and print
it.

The copy function is done from "model select" in the system menu. It is
not spelled out in the manual as I remember.
If you are not comfortable with the JR charge polarity, just make up
charging plugs for your aftermarket charger, or pull the batteries for
charging. I usually carry spare charged batteries so I don't have to
field charge anyway. You can charge up to a 1 amp rate through the
transmitter with no problems. Plenty for your intended battery.

JD

Endless Mountain Models
http://www.scalesoaring.com
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> -Original Message-
> From: James R MacLean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 10:23 PM
> To: soaring@airage.com
> Subject: [RCSE] 9303 questions
> 
> Just got my 9303 and starting to charge batteries and read the manual.
A
> few general questions arise:
> Is there a copy function to make duplication of similiar models
easier?
> Is there a diode in the charging circuit?
> I would like to use a larger (1650 mah which is the same physical
size)
> NiMH battery. The battery connector is different from the usual Molex
> type. Any thoughts?
> 
> I was surprised by one thing, the sailplane version only comes with a
> sailplane manual which does not give much help in setting up a power
> plane.  I wanted to fly the radio and receiver in my "mule" plane
looking
> for infant failures in a cheap plane which vibrates a bit also.  Have
to
> mail in request for a manual or download from the net.  Kind of a lot
of
> pages to have to print out at work.
> 
> There is also the "reversed" charging plug polarity. Anyone haave an
idea
> about how the input circuit is arranged?  It should be possible to add
a
> small but rugged diode which will protect the transmitter "innards"
from
> a reversed input long enough to blow the input fuse.  I think some
have
> just rewired the input connector which is certainly easy enough but
hard
> to mark in a way to preclude trying to use a JR charger as it would
> normaly be used.
> 
> Thanks for any thoughts.  Looking forward to using this excellent
radio.
> Jim MacLean
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Re: [RCSE] 9303 questions

[James V. Bacus]

At 09:23 PM 2/15/2005, James R MacLean wrote:
Is there a copy function to make duplication of similiar models easier?
Yes, and you have 30 slots to save them in.
I use all JR gear, so I am already used to the polarity issue, but I carry 
a separate charge cable in case guys with other brands need a bump off my 
fast charger.  That's the way I handle it.

You are really going to enjoy your new radio, I certainly like my 9303.
Jim
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[RCSE] 9303 questions

[James R MacLean]

Just got my 9303 and starting to charge batteries and read the manual. A
few general questions arise:
Is there a copy function to make duplication of similiar models easier?
Is there a diode in the charging circuit?
I would like to use a larger (1650 mah which is the same physical size)
NiMH battery. The battery connector is different from the usual Molex
type. Any thoughts?

I was surprised by one thing, the sailplane version only comes with a
sailplane manual which does not give much help in setting up a power
plane.  I wanted to fly the radio and receiver in my "mule" plane looking
for infant failures in a cheap plane which vibrates a bit also.  Have to
mail in request for a manual or download from the net.  Kind of a lot of
pages to have to print out at work.

There is also the "reversed" charging plug polarity. Anyone haave an idea
about how the input circuit is arranged?  It should be possible to add a
small but rugged diode which will protect the transmitter "innards" from
a reversed input long enough to blow the input fuse.  I think some have
just rewired the input connector which is certainly easy enough but hard
to mark in a way to preclude trying to use a JR charger as it would
normaly be used.  

Thanks for any thoughts.  Looking forward to using this excellent radio. 
Jim MacLean
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[RCSE] 9303 question

[James R MacLean]

Some questions about the new JR radio:  Is the R700 and /or R770 receiver
of a form factor conducive to the usual 3 meter sailplane fuse
dimensions?

Can the TX be easily converted by the user to Mode one operation?  (mode
one is elevator and rudder on the left stick)  My present Futaba 8UAX
makes the conversion very simple.  I have owned transmitters which were
very difficult to convert.

Can the transmitter operate in a standard FM mode such as would be
compatable with a normal FM receiver? Yes, I know the shift polarity does
not match Futaba and Hitec but on 50 MHz band they are all the same so I
plan on continuing to use my collection of FMA and Futaba receivers. I
may have to reorder the servo connections however.  

Many thanks,  Jim MacLean   Melbourne, FL
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Re: [RCSE] 9303 Vs. Stylus?

[jon stone]

Jack,

You have hit the essense of choosing a TX on the head with all of your
bullet items.  Cannot be said better.

Jon
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Re: [RCSE] 9303 Vs. Stylus?

[Mike Remus]

I too have owned a Vision and a Stylus.  I liked them both a lot, 
especially the operations manual on the Vision.  I now have the JR9303 and 
like it, though I relocated a couple of switches to suit me.
Advantages/ Differences??
The main thing about the Stylus that I don't like, is having to 
purchase two additional cards in order to have the whole Radio and it's 
only an 8 channel system.  You need more for a scale glider.
Some important pluses for the JR9303. Better price for good functionality. 
Great support from Horizon Hobby, and they actively support our glider 
activities. I would like to see a better manual, or someone writing a good tip 
sheet for it.  That might not be a problem for someone already familiar 
with a JR radio.
I am looking forward to this summer with my 9303.
Mike RemusLOFT Glider ClubFort Wayne INLSF Level 5 
#112Remember; Dreams are the seedlings of reality. Dream Lofty 
dreams!
 
On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 11:25:05 -0500 Jack Strother <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
writes:

  Jon,Excellent comments to be sure, What you offer is a sound 
  analogy that, as far as I am concerned may apply also to the MPX Line of 
  radios.Having owned Hi end Futuba, JR, Airtronics, and now MPX, the 
  conclusion that I come to is about the same as your, and I would offer the 
  same advice. 
  
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder... 
All radios have their Quirks 
Review a manual if possible before the purchase 
Someone else's Diamond just might end up being your junk, so take all 
the data that you get from all the people, and treat it as such.. data ..not 
gospel !! 
Remember, many people are Biassed for any number of reasons. 
When you make the purchase, Resolve yourself to LEARN the product, Do 
not trouble you hobby dealer with a return, because you can not figure out 
how to re-center the servos in an existing project. Its always a 
  pleasure, to read you !!Thanks JackAt 01:38 AM 1/9/2005, jon 
  stone wrote:
  Let's go over some of your 
items:> I've been using the Stylus for a few years now and 
was wondering how> the 9303 compared.  I like several things 
about the Stylus, but there> are a few I don't:> > 
1.  I think the camber setup is confusingI don't know what you 
mean.  I find it very straightforward.  I usedthe GLID card, 
which can make all the difference.> 2.  I don't like the way 
you have to reset the timer.  It's not> practical for the quick 
turn-around DLG launches.The 9303 is about the same.  If you 
are careful, you could do itquickly, but still might require 2 
hands.> 3.  It's heavy (although for DLG, it exercises both 
arms)yup.> 4.  If you select wing type after you've 
done some programming,> everything is resetAll the computer 
radios I've ever owned (4) acted exactly the sameway.  This is a 
fundamental setup you should do almost before anythingelse, when 
starting a new model.  As many of the menu options offeredyou may 
change completely as soon as you select a wing type.> The things 
I love about the Stylus are:> > 1.  The ability to change 
channels with the modules (although they're a> little 
expensive)Same (at least legally) on most other high end 
radios.  > 2.  The ability to fly on both positive and 
negative shiftOnly Airtronics, Multiplex do this to my 
knowledge.   They are not themarket leaders, so they have to 
play with everyone else.   Not sure onany Hitec 
TX's.> Anyway, I've read some of the literature about the 9303 
and now that> they're in the hands of the consumers, I'm curious how 
it stacks up to> the Stylus.Investing your time, money, and 
effort into a new TX is a personalchoice.  And a pretty serious one 
for most of us.   I suggest you readthe manuals for the 9303 
and see if it will meet your needs.    Theyhave a nice 
tutorial (addendum) at the end of the Sailplane manualwalking you 
through the steps of setting up a full-house glider with 3flight 
modes.The complete manuals are online at Horizon.  The issues 
you have withthe Stylus listed above are pretty minor, in the big scheme 
of things.Niether the Stylus nor the 9303 are perfect radios.  
There are littlethings that are quirky about each transmitter, 
IMHO.  The sad part ismost of them you can't figure out until 
you've actually played andflown with the radio on a real glider.  
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Re: [RCSE] 9303 Vs. Stylus?

[Jack Strother]

Jon,
Excellent comments to be sure, 
What you offer is a sound analogy that, as far as I am concerned may
apply also to the MPX Line of radios.
Having owned Hi end  Futuba, JR, Airtronics, and now MPX, the conclusion
that I come to is about the same as your, and I would offer the same
advice.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder...
All radios have their Quirks
Review a manual if possible before the purchase
Someone else's Diamond just might end up being your junk, so take all
the data that you get from all the people, and treat it as such.. data
..not gospel !!
Remember, many people are Biassed for any number of reasons.
When you make the purchase, Resolve yourself to LEARN the product, Do
not trouble you hobby dealer with a return, because you can not figure
out how to re-center the servos in an existing project. 
Its always a pleasure, to read you !!
Thanks 
Jack
At 01:38 AM 1/9/2005, jon stone wrote:
Let's go over some of your
items:

> I've been using the Stylus for a few years now and was wondering
how
> the 9303 compared.  I like several things about the Stylus, but
there
> are a few I don't:
> 
> 1.  I think the camber setup is confusing
I don't know what you mean.  I find it very straightforward.  I
used
the GLID card, which can make all the difference.
> 2.  I don't like the way you have to reset the timer. 
It's not
> practical for the quick turn-around DLG launches.
The 9303 is about the same.  If you are careful, you could do
it
quickly, but still might require 2 hands.
> 3.  It's heavy (although for DLG, it exercises both
arms)
yup.
> 4.  If you select wing type after you've done some
programming,
> everything is reset
All the computer radios I've ever owned (4) acted exactly the same
way.  This is a fundamental setup you should do almost before
anything
else, when starting a new model.  As many of the menu options
offered
you may change completely as soon as you select a wing type.
> The things I love about the Stylus are:
> 
> 1.  The ability to change channels with the modules (although
they're a
> little expensive)
Same (at least legally) on most other high end radios.  
> 2.  The ability to fly on both positive and negative
shift
Only Airtronics, Multiplex do this to my knowledge.   They are
not the
market leaders, so they have to play with everyone else.   Not
sure on
any Hitec TX's.
> Anyway, I've read some of the literature about the 9303 and now
that
> they're in the hands of the consumers, I'm curious how it stacks up
to
> the Stylus.
Investing your time, money, and effort into a new TX is a personal
choice.  And a pretty serious one for most of us.   I
suggest you read
the manuals for the 9303 and see if it will meet your
needs.    They
have a nice tutorial (addendum) at the end of the Sailplane manual
walking you through the steps of setting up a full-house glider with
3
flight modes.
The complete manuals are online at Horizon.  The issues you have
with
the Stylus listed above are pretty minor, in the big scheme of
things.
Niether the Stylus nor the 9303 are perfect radios.  There are
little
things that are quirky about each transmitter, IMHO.  The sad part
is
most of them you can't figure out until you've actually played and
flown with the radio on a real glider.  :)
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Re: [RCSE] 9303 Vs. Stylus?

[jon stone]

Let's go over some of your items:


> I've been using the Stylus for a few years now and was wondering how
> the 9303 compared.  I like several things about the Stylus, but there
> are a few I don't:
> 
> 1.  I think the camber setup is confusing

I don't know what you mean.  I find it very straightforward.  I used
the GLID card, which can make all the difference.

> 2.  I don't like the way you have to reset the timer.  It's not
> practical for the quick turn-around DLG launches.

The 9303 is about the same.  If you are careful, you could do it
quickly, but still might require 2 hands.

> 3.  It's heavy (although for DLG, it exercises both arms)

yup.

> 4.  If you select wing type after you've done some programming,
> everything is reset

All the computer radios I've ever owned (4) acted exactly the same
way.  This is a fundamental setup you should do almost before anything
else, when starting a new model.  As many of the menu options offered
you may change completely as soon as you select a wing type.

> The things I love about the Stylus are:
> 
> 1.  The ability to change channels with the modules (although they're a
> little expensive)

Same (at least legally) on most other high end radios.  

> 2.  The ability to fly on both positive and negative shift

Only Airtronics, Multiplex do this to my knowledge.   They are not the
market leaders, so they have to play with everyone else.   Not sure on
any Hitec TX's.

> Anyway, I've read some of the literature about the 9303 and now that
> they're in the hands of the consumers, I'm curious how it stacks up to
> the Stylus.

Investing your time, money, and effort into a new TX is a personal
choice.  And a pretty serious one for most of us.   I suggest you read
the manuals for the 9303 and see if it will meet your needs.They
have a nice tutorial (addendum) at the end of the Sailplane manual
walking you through the steps of setting up a full-house glider with 3
flight modes.

The complete manuals are online at Horizon.  The issues you have with
the Stylus listed above are pretty minor, in the big scheme of things.

Niether the Stylus nor the 9303 are perfect radios.  There are little
things that are quirky about each transmitter, IMHO.  The sad part is
most of them you can't figure out until you've actually played and
flown with the radio on a real glider.  :)
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[RCSE] 9303 Vs. Stylus?

[Michael Conte]

I've been using the Stylus for a few years now and was wondering how 
the 9303 compared.  I like several things about the Stylus, but there 
are a few I don't:

1.  I think the camber setup is confusing
2.  I don't like the way you have to reset the timer.  It's not 
practical for the quick turn-around DLG launches.
3.  It's heavy (although for DLG, it exercises both arms)
4.  If you select wing type after you've done some programming, 
everything is reset

The things I love about the Stylus are:
1.  The ability to change channels with the modules (although they're a 
little expensive)
2.  The ability to fly on both positive and negative shift

Anyway, I've read some of the literature about the 9303 and now that 
they're in the hands of the consumers, I'm curious how it stacks up to 
the Stylus.

Thank you,
Michael Conte
Las Vegas, NV
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[RCSE] 9303 and buddy box

[Barry Andersen]

Can anyone tell me if you can use an older JR radio, 388, 347 as a 
buddy box with a 9303?

thanks
Barry
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RE: [RCSE] 9303???

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Reece,

I do not know about has the best deal, but the best guy to get one from that
I know of is Johnny Berlin at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

See Ya,

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Wichita, KS


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Re: [RCSE] 9303???

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RE: [RCSE] 9303

[John Derstine]

I am using a 9 channel rx with the electric Sperber set up. The channel
assignment for AUX 2 can be one of three switches or sticks. If you put
the motor on aux4 you have a choice of 8 switches, sliders or buttons.
There are many ways to get what you want here. If you are getting
unwanted interaction with the original channel assignment you need to
deactivate that in device select.

 When using the flight modes and throttle hold, what the manual does not
specifically say is that you need to go to a program mix and mix motor
as master to the channel you want to assign to the spoiler stick when
the motor hold is on. In other words, the ancillary function you want
assigned to the spoiler stick when you flip the LAND(or other flight
mode) switch on. Don't assign any values here, or choose a switch at the
bottom of the screen. Exit the mix. This would be the same for any motor
switch assignment.

Now to get the flap to work with the spoiler stick (this example), I
went to the Butterfly P-mix menu. This will allow you to mix flap to the
spoiler stick in any direction or percentage you wish, if you wanted you
could also add elevator comp as I did, and flaperon mix if desired.
Because of the steps taken to this point, the values entered will only
affect the surfaces when the LAND switch is down or on. Simultaneous to
this the throttle (because we chose 0% in the MOTO hold window) will be
inactive.

Programming speed controls is something that needs to be simplified in
my book. Using a throttle stick as suggested by some manufacturers,
requires that you program your speed control before setting up the plane
if you want to use a button off/on when flying. That said, Castle
creations has taken the curse off this process by offering a computer
interface for programming your speed control on your PC. The nice thing
is if you are using Li polys you can select a precise cut off voltage vs
the stock presets in the stick programming mode.

JD


Endless Mountain Models
http://www.scalesoaring.com
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JR. states that you can assign the MOOT function to a number of
different places. This is not true. In fact, all the channel functions
are stuck on the channels they are assigned to. They cannot be changed.
They can, however, be mixed.  The stock assignment for AX 2 (channel 7)
is the spoiler stick. This means that no matter where you assign the
MOOT function in the devices menu, the motor will be effected by the
spoiler stick. for a 6 servo plane, this isn't workable.


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Re: [RCSE] 9303

[RCSoaring]

The following solution was used for my Stratus SL with an electric fuse. Before I cover the actual programming, it's worth going over my basic set up (I'll leave out all the real detail stuff). The Radio is configured so that left three position switch is used for the following:
 
FORWARD = speed mode
Small amount of reflex, less throw, less differential, more snap flap
 
CENTER = cruise
No reflex, more throw, more differential, a little less snap flap
 
BACK = Thermal
More differential, just a bit of snap flap
 
 
 
Gear switch (I physically had to turn it upside down so that down could represent landing settings)
 
DOWN = landing mode
Using Mix one, the first 60% of the spoiler stick pulls the flaps down. The last 40% actuates spoilers up. The elevator compensates with the second mix on a multipoint curve. I also mix in rudder just for landing (There are nasty rotors where I land often land, and it gives me a little less to think about)
 
UP = full-span camber
 
 
Elevator dual rate
 
DOWN = off with brake
UP = 100% full throttle
 
JR. states that you can assign the MOOT function to a number of different places. This is not true. In fact, all the channel functions are stuck on the channels they are assigned to. They cannot be changed. They can, however, be mixed.  The stock assignment for AX 2 (channel 7) is the spoiler stick. This means that no matter where you assign the MOOT function in the devices menu, the motor will be effected by the spoiler stick. for a 6 servo plane, this isn't workable.
 
You will need an 8 channel receiver, and the speed controller should be on channel 8 (AX 3). Connect the receiver battery to channel 7 using a separate lead. A "Y" connector for the receiver pack and the speed controller works with many speed controllers, but not on some... (for example, not on mine). 
 
Go to the DeviceSEL menu, and leave AUX3 set to the AUX3 LEV, and set it to INH. this means you can effect the motor trim by moving the right slider.
 
Set MOTO to ELEV D/R with the OUT set to ACT.
 
Go to one of the PROG. mixes, and set it for MOTO->AUX3.
 
Set CRU, SPD, and THM modes to POS1. the rest are set to POS0. This enables the elevator switch to actuate the motor in those modes in the up position.
 
 
Here's where your mileage may vary:
for Pos1 start by setting the top and bottom to +125%. This gives you full on, and full off with the switch. The Offset, will change the center position. By adjusting those three numbers, you can program the end points for the speed controller. Each speed controller is programmed a different way, so the specifics for programming those end points will vary. I had to set my Offset to +90 to get the amount of brake I needed.
 
- Steve

Re: [RCSE] 9303

[AMA3655]

In a message dated 10/26/2004 5:36:25 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
MULTIPLEX!

Been there, done that. It ain't perfect either.

RE: [RCSE] 9303

[Winch]

...Beats me why they buried a switch...
...fiddle with the wire harness and clip a cable tie or two you can get
enough slack to do this without clipping and soldering any wires.
...I'd like to move it to where the gear switch is currently
...Now for the stick switch...gotta do something about that...maybe a chunk
of rubber band tied from the flap stick to the flight mode switch...really
elegant.


MULTIPLEX!

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Re: [RCSE] 9303

[AMA3655]

Mike -

I also did not care for the flight mode switch location. I tried to fly with it there, 
it proved to be ugly. Beats me why they buried a switch that you need to be able to 
hit blind every launch. 

I was able to move it pretty easily. I swapped it with the elevator dual rate switch. 
If you fiddle with the wire harness and clip a cable tie or two you can get enough 
slack to do this without clipping and soldering any wires. This move helped a good 
bit. 

I'd like to move it to where the gear switch is currently, but I haven't taken the 
time to do so yet. That will probably require some wire splicing.

Now for the stick switch...gotta do something about that...maybe a chunk of rubber 
band tied from the flap stick to the flight mode switch...really elegant.

happy trails - Rob Glover
From: Mike Remus <>
That sure would be nice Rob I have one now and haven't made it through
the programing yet.  Too much Airtronics in my head.  I don't like the
Left front flight switch either.  It is to close the to the flap stick
for my clumsy finger.   I opened up the radio to see about moving the
Left 3 position switch to where the trainer button is.  Not a good idea.
Any other ideas?
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Re: [RCSE] 9303

[Mike Remus]

That sure would be nice Rob I have one now and haven't made it through
the programing yet.  Too much Airtronics in my head.  I don't like the
Left front flight switch either.  It is to close the to the flap stick
for my clumsy finger.   I opened up the radio to see about moving the
Left 3 position switch to where the trainer button is.  Not a good idea.
Any other ideas?
On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 11:59:42 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Has anybody figured out how to implement stick switches with the 9303 
> yet?
> 
> happy trails - Rob Glover
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[RCSE] 9303

[AMA3655]

Has anybody figured out how to implement stick switches with the 9303 yet?

happy trails - Rob Glover
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[RCSE] 9303 review

[John Derstine]

A few weeks ago I started a pictorial thread on RC Forums regarding the
new JR 9303. I recently gleaned the best of my original posts with
pictures and constructed a review of the radio on my web site. It will
continue to be updated as I get new info and I make new discoveries
about the radio. Kind of like a mini dictatorial BLOG.
It features a general photo overview with comparisons to other JR
radios, a quick set up to trailing edge switched presets using the
MONITOR screen, and an example of electric motor set up with and without
the motor hold function. 

http://www.scalesoaring.net/EMM/9303.htm

JD

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Re: [RCSE] 9303 with an electric -> cannot find the JR8103 write-up

[Matt Lydon]

Rense wrote:
This reminds me, I was looking for the JR8103 write-up on how to 
program for electrics that I once saw - but of course I forgot where. 
Does anyone remember?
 
Rense Lange
http://isoar.ca/~andrewm/rc/JRxp8103/
Matt
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Re: [RCSE] 9303 with an electric

[Brian Chan]

Recently I asked if anyone had a chance to actuate an electric motor 
using a switch with the XP9303. I asked if anyone has done it, not 
if someone had read the manual. For those of you that read the 
manual, as I have, you might hane been under the impression that 
there was a way to assign the MOTO function to a switch.

If anyone has actually set up the 9303 with an electric 6-servo 
plane, I'd like to know what solution you came up with. I have one 
already, but there may be a more elegant solution that I am not 
aware of.

- Steve
You can do it with the Graupner MX22, same body as the JR 9303, but I 
think the software might by different. On the MX22 , there is four 
softswitch that you can program so more than one function can 
activate the softswitch.

Brian
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RE: [RCSE] 9303 with an electric

[John Derstine]

Yes I have, and I sent my response to the list. It is also very clear in
the manual except for a few steps that tell you how to actually mix the
motor channel with the moto hold function. 
Here it is again…
You first have to go to device select in the system mode. Activate
“MOTO”   at bottom of screen, (use the scrolling wheel to highlight
“act/inh”)then click. Then scroll back to “moto” click, then scroll to
the  one of 9 switches, buttons, sliders, or sticks, then click again,
exit, done..  Check out the following for more on electric motor set up.
This article gives a step by step guide to using the moto hold function
and flight modes.

http://www.scalesoaring.net/EMM/9303.htm



JD
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004 6:10 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [RCSE] 9303 with an electric

Recently I asked if anyone had a chance to actuate an electric motor
using a switch with the XP9303. I asked if anyone has done it, not if
someone had read the manual. For those of you that read the manual, as I
have, you might hane been under the impression that there was a way to
assign the MOTO function to a switch.
 
If anyone has actually set up the 9303 with an electric 6-servo plane,
I'd like to know what solution you came up with. I have one already, but
there may be a more elegant solution that I am not aware of.
 
- Steve

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Re: [RCSE] 9303 with an electric -> cannot find the JR8103 write-up

[Andrew E. Mileski]

Rense wrote:
This reminds me, I was looking for the JR8103 write-up on how to program 
for electrics that I once saw - but of course I forgot where. Does 
anyone remember?
 
Rense Lange
My 8103 collection:
  http://isoar.ca/~andrewm/rc/JRxp8103/
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RE: [RCSE] 9303 with an electric -> cannot find the JR8103 write-up

[Rense]

This 
reminds me, I was looking for the JR8103 write-up on how to program for 
electrics that I once saw - but of course I forgot where. Does anyone 
remember?
 
Rense 
Lange

[RCSE] 9303 with an electric

[RCSoaring]

Recently I asked if anyone had a chance to actuate an electric motor using a switch with the XP9303. I asked if anyone has done it, not if someone had read the manual. For those of you that read the manual, as I have, you might hane been under the impression that there was a way to assign the MOTO function to a switch.
 
If anyone has actually set up the 9303 with an electric 6-servo plane, I'd like to know what solution you came up with. I have one already, but there may be a more elegant solution that I am not aware of.
 
- Steve

Re: [RCSE] 9303 with an electric

[DUWorm]

In a message dated 10/15/2004 10:35:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Has anyone been able to actuate an electric motor using a switch with the 
  XP9303? 
   
  (The plane has 6 servos)
   
  I'd like to know how.
   
  TIA
   
  - Steve S.
  (415) 456-5312
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


The 9303 has motor on 
a switch in spades.  See the Note on page S12 of the manual.  "if dual 
flap is activated, the motor function is not assigned to any channel."  In 
the new Devic. SEL page (again see page S12 of the manual) the motor function 
can then be assigned to Ail D/R, Ele D/R, Rudd D/R, Aux 4 SW, R3P SW, L3P SW, 
the new butterfly push button, the timer switch or the spoiler stick.  

 
There is also a motor 
hold function (See page S29 of the manual).  This allows you to enable or 
disable the motor switch in any of the five flight modes.  As an example, 
the spoiler stick may work the motor in a launch mode with a little flap and 
some down elevator (If you don't have enough down thrust at the motor)  In 
all the rest of the modes, the spoiler stick is for flaps and the motor will not 
operate.  
 
I am intrigued by the 
possibility of putting the motor with a soft start on the butterfly push 
button.  Push to turn on, push to turn off.  With camber on the side 
slide, the spoiler stick is always on for flaps.  
 
Sherman 
Knight
 

RE: [RCSE] 9303 with an electric plain text version

[John Derstine]

You first have to go to device select in the system mode. Activate
“MOTO”   at bottom of screen, (use the scrolling wheel to highlight
“inh” )then click. Then scroll to “moto” click, then scroll to the  one
of 9 switches, buttons, sliders, or sticks, then click again, exit,
done..  Check out the following for more on electric motor set up.

http://www.scalesoaring.net/EMM/9303.htm


JD
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [RCSE] 9303 with an electric

Has anyone been able to actuate an electric motor using a switch with
the XP9303? 
 
(The plane has 6 servos)
 
I'd like to know how.
 
TIA
 
- Steve S.
(415) 456-5312
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RE: [RCSE] 9303 with an electric

[John Derstine]

You first have to go to device select in
the system mode. Activate “MOTO”   at bottom of screen, (use the scrolling
wheel to highlight “inh”
)then click. Then scroll to “moto”
click, then scroll to the  one of 9
switches, buttons, sliders, or sticks, then click again, exit, done..  Check out the following for more on
electric motor set up.

 

http://www.scalesoaring.net/EMM/9303.htm

 

 

JD



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Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004
1:36 AM
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Subject: [RCSE] 9303 with an
electric

 



Has anyone been able to actuate an
electric motor using a switch with the XP9303? 





 





(The plane has 6 servos)





 





I'd like to know how.





 





TIA





 





- Steve S.





(415) 456-5312





[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [RCSE] 9303 with an electric

[Ben Diss]

In the glider program, mix the MOTO with channel you have the motor on.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Has anyone been able to actuate an electric motor using a switch with 
the XP9303?
 
(The plane has 6 servos)
 
I'd like to know how.
 
TIA
 
- Steve S.
(415) 456-5312
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[RCSE] 9303 with an electric

[RCSoaring]

Has anyone been able to actuate an electric motor using a switch with the XP9303? 
 
(The plane has 6 servos)
 
I'd like to know how.
 
TIA
 
- Steve S.
(415) 456-5312
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[RCSE] 9303 review online

[John Derstine]

I just got the new JR 9303. I am very impressed with the ease of
programming. There is a lot of potential here for scale sailplane
application. For pilots who do not want to invest in a 10x this is a
radio that can do the job for about half the money. Check out my review
on Scalesoaring.com 

http://www.scalesoaring.net/EMM/9303.htm 


JD


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RE: [RCSE] 9303 availability...

[John Derstine]

Last I checked, Horizon hobby had this version in stock.

 9303 Sailplane R770 3-DS368 MD2  [JRP9263**]

JD
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Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 12:56 PM
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Subject: [RCSE] 9303 availability...

Any of you distributors with 9303's currently available?
-Les Grammer

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[RCSE] 9303 availability...

[Les Grammer]

Any of you distributors with 9303's currently available?
-Les Grammer
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[RCSE] 9303

[Johnny Berlin]

The 9303 on channel 26 is SOLD.

I will be ordering more on Monday. If you would like one, let me know.



Thanks to all who ordered from me. 


Johnny
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Re: [RCSE] 9303 question

[Michael Lachowski]

Using the throttle stick for both camber and launch is something you 
don't have to do.  I never ever used it that way. I always programmed a 
switch to provide launch preset, throttle stick was always for landing 
with same mix in either switch position, and I use a combination of 
camber presets and elevator to camber mixing to keep the airfoil working 
best for the conditions and elevator input.


marta zavala wrote:
That JR landing mode switch set up can be dangerous.  Forgot to flip the landing mode 
switch during a winch malfunction/pop off, hit myself in the hand with a plane that 
wouldnt slow down, cut my flying thumb 3/4 of the way around to the bone. Couldnt fly 
for almost three months. I still use landing mode but make sure and have it on during 
launch in case things get hairy real fast. When I get the Evo going will use the left 
stick for landing flap and the slider for camber change.  Needless to say I am not a 
big fan of the JR landing/flight mode switch.
Walter
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To: RCSE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [RCSE] 9303 question

I noticed when looking at the 9303 manual download (thanks Jon), that 
the stock set-up has a "landing mode".

Does this mean you have to pull a switch to have the left stick operate 
the flaps fully and not camber as in some other JR radios?

Barry
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Re: [RCSE] 9303 question

[marta zavala]

That JR landing mode switch set up can be dangerous.  Forgot to flip the landing mode 
switch during a winch malfunction/pop off, hit myself in the hand with a plane that 
wouldnt slow down, cut my flying thumb 3/4 of the way around to the bone. Couldnt fly 
for almost three months. I still use landing mode but make sure and have it on during 
launch in case things get hairy real fast. When I get the Evo going will use the left 
stick for landing flap and the slider for camber change.  Needless to say I am not a 
big fan of the JR landing/flight mode switch.
Walter
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> I noticed when looking at the 9303 manual download (thanks Jon), that 
> the stock set-up has a "landing mode".
> 
> Does this mean you have to pull a switch to have the left stick operate 
> the flaps fully and not camber as in some other JR radios?
> 
> Barry
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RE: [RCSE] 9303 question

[John Diniz]

Barry,
 
I just programmed my Tragi into the 9303 this morning. WOW super easy, took about 1.5 
hours, 2 minutes of which was moving the servo leads. (Had to break for a cup of 
coffee after that chore 8^) The flight modes control things like throws, expo, rudder 
coupling, differential and the like. You can setup butterfly to be on all the time, as 
is in the basic setup instruction that John Adams wrote. So no matter what switches 
you have thrown the throttle stick will give you landing crow all the time. 
 
Did a range check and a few trim flights and I am loving it. Flying off the zip start 
was able to hook a low thermal to get a 25 min flight. What is also cool on the radio 
are the dual timers. I setup a 10 min countdown watch and also a stop watch and 
program them to start with the momentary/timer button just above the rudder/throttle 
stick. Makes it very easy to start when you come off the line. Also on the countdown 
timer it gives 3 beeps at 30 seconds, 2 beeps at 20 and a beep per secound from 10 to 
0, great for landing practice. Also the tones change in pitch as it counts down.
 
It was nice to finally get my radio into a plane and acually fly it instead of playing 
around with it at work. We should have the radios here in a week or so and then they 
have to go through QA before being released for shipment, So you should be seeing them 
at you dealer in 2-3 weeks max.
 
Regards,
John
 
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I noticed when looking at the 9303 manual download (thanks Jon), that
the stock set-up has a "landing mode".

Does this mean you have to pull a switch to have the left stick operate
the flaps fully and not camber as in some other JR radios?

Barry

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[RCSE] 9303 question

[Barry Andersen]

I noticed when looking at the 9303 manual download (thanks Jon), that 
the stock set-up has a "landing mode".

Does this mean you have to pull a switch to have the left stick operate 
the flaps fully and not camber as in some other JR radios?

Barry
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Re: [RCSE] 9303 comments

[Andrew E. Mileski]

WE Johns wrote:
Did anyone note if it were shift selectable?  I spent a little time in 
the manual and saw no comment on this point.   It looks like a most 
interesting Tx, but I have a small fortune in Futaba-shift Rx's and am 
reluctant to reinvest in new shift battery of receivers.
I didn't notice it... but I too only scanned the manual.
Overall,  I wasn't really impressed.  I guess I want too much.
Is the front panel flap trim digital?  The throw looks pretty small.
I like the dials on the 8103, but I wish they had a center detent.
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[RCSE] 9303/EVO

[Marta Zavala]

Was wondering how the 9303 stacks up against the EVO.  I have used JR radios
for years and am very familiar with them.  I now have a EVO12, there is a
pretty big learning curve with it, at least for me.  Would I be
losing/gaining if I were to get rid of the EVO and go w/the 9303?
Thanks, Walter

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