Re: message filters?

[WaltS48]

On 11/18/17 1:08 PM, sean wrote:
Anybody had any successful set of filters to filter out the italian 
spammer in this NG?


Yes, unless one sneaks in.

Didn't we just cover that in another thread? Review the posts here.



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message filters?

[sean]

Anybody had any successful set of filters to filter out the italian 
spammer in this NG?

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Re: Message filters

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Steve Rogerson wrote:


But I haven't put any new add-ons in so don't see how that can be the
problem. And I have so many filters, it would be a nightmare to
create them all again from scratch. Any other suggestions?


Please quote messages to which you reply.

The point of testing in safe mode or with a fresh profile is to rule 
some possibilities in or out, as a troubleshooting step. If the problem 
persists under these conditions, we need to look elsewhere; if it 
disappears, there's something wrong with the items you disabled. From 
there, we can narrow it down by adding some items back and retesting.


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Re: Message filters

[Steve Rogerson]

But I haven't put any new add-ons in so don't see how that can be the problem. 
And I have so many filters, it would be a nightmare to create them all again 
from scratch. Any other suggestions?

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Re: Message filters

[WaltS48]

On 7/28/17 4:13 AM, Steve Rogerson wrote:

Hi Ed, I am not a techy. I don't know what safe mode is and am not sure what 
you mean by a new profile.



Safe Mode 

Profile 
 >SeaMonkey (or Mozilla Suite) users can access the Profile Manager 
from an open program window by selecting "Tools -> Switch Profile..." 
from the menu.


If you do that, select Manage Profiles, Create Profile, Next, then give 
the profile a name (I use test), Finish, select the profile in the list 
of Available Profiles and Use Profile.


You will then have to open the Mail & Newsgroups window and setup your 
mail account, create the folders, create the filters, get email and see 
if the filter works.


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Re: Message filters

[Daniel]

On 28/07/2017 6:13 PM, Steve Rogerson wrote:

Hi Ed, I am not a techy. I don't know what safe mode is and am not sure what 
you mean by a new profile.

Steve, as we go along, we can add various add-ons to SeaMonkey to make 
it better do what we want. Have a look at Tools->Add-On Manager to see 
if you have installed such things. I currently have about twenty Add Ons 
installed and about ten Extension, all to make SeaMonkey do what I want 
 well, sort of!!


When we install a new version, sometimes there are conflicts. This can 
often be sorted by selecting Help->Restart with Add-Ons disabled. This 
means that when SeaMonkey re-starts, it will just be a Bare-bones 
version of SeaMonkey. If SeaMonkey then works (in its plain vanilla 
mode), then you can turn back on, say, half the Add-Ons and re-start 
SeaMonkey and see if it works. If it does, then enable more Add-Ons and 
re-start SeaMonkey, until you find the dude!!


Alternatively, your problem may be with your profile itself. This can, 
usually, be fixed by producing a new Profile by selecting Tools->Switch 
Profiles and the "Manage Profiles" -> "Create Profile" and follow the 
screens to set up a new Profile.


When you re-start SeaMonkey, it will be using this bare-bones Profile 
and you will need to add those Add-Ons that you require!


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Re: Message filters

[Steve Rogerson]

Hi Ed, I am not a techy. I don't know what safe mode is and am not sure what 
you mean by a new profile.
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Re: Message filters

[Ed Mullen]

On 7/27/17 at 3:00 AM, rogersonst...@gmail.com created this epitome of 
digital genius:

I am still having the problem. Does anyone have any ideas?



Have you done the usual?

- try a new profile
- try Safe Mode

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Re: Message filters

[rogersonsteve]

I am still having the problem. Does anyone have any ideas?
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Message filters

[rogersonsteve]

I am using 2.46

If I try to edit my message filters or create a new one, I can't because the 
bar where it says to move message to is greyed and it says no available 
folders. The existing filters still work and send the emails to the folders to 
which they should go despite this now being greyed out. But if I try to edit 
it, it won't let me because I haven't specified a folder. Same problem if I try 
to create a new filter.

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Re: Message filters

[rogersonsteve]

I should have said, I am using Mac Os 10.9.5
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New problem with message filters

[Bill Spikowski]

Over time I've created a couple hundred message filters to divert emails I want 
to read ***but not right now*** to my junk folder.

Mostly these are newsletters, notices of upcoming payments due, blog post 
announcements, advertisements from companies I like, etc.

Suddenly all the filters know longer know where to send the messages.

I can fix them one by one I suppose; but whatever caused the problem might just 
happen again.

Does this problem sound familiar to anyone out there?

(I'm still running SM 2.26.1 on Windows XP on this particular machine for 
reasons that are important to me.)
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Re: Message filters in newsgroups

[Magnus Walther]

Zeb Carter schrieb:
> Is there a file that contains the message filters for a particular news 
> server? I've had to switch from one server to another and want to 
> migrate the filters from the old to the new. I would prefer not to have 
> to recreate each one.
> 

Yes, it's called "msgFilterRules.dat" in each news server folder. Search for
that file in your profile folder, subfolder "news" -> your news server folder.
You can copy it in each news directory.

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Message filters in newsgroups

[Zeb Carter]

Is there a file that contains the message filters for a particular news 
server? I've had to switch from one server to another and want to 
migrate the filters from the old to the new. I would prefer not to have 
to recreate each one.

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Re: Message Filters

[Philip Chee]

On 26/09/2014 22:42, BIll Spikowski wrote:
>> 
>>> 
 Bill Spikowski wrote:
> Does anyone know where the log file is stored? I'd like to be
> able to review it somewhere more convenient than the window
> provided by Seamonkey, and be able to search the log file.
> 
> I've found msgFilterRules.dat, but all I see there is the
> filter definitions, not the filter log.
>> I think you need to install the SQLite Manager and then find the
>> message datbase under the SeaMonkey user profile in yor
>> ~/home/Mozilla.
> 
> I finally found the filter log file -- in a file named
> filterlog.html.
> 
> It's a plain text file that I can view in a text editor; would the
> SQLite Manage be able to view and manipulate this file?

No SQLite Manager only manages SQLite files. A HTML file is manifestly
not SQLite.

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Re: Message Filters

[BIll Spikowski]

NFN Smith wrote:

Bill Spikowski wrote:

>On that one, a guess would be that you may have set configs for sent mail to 
write copies to the Junk folder.

That's not it for my situation; the messages from me that get routed to junk 
were sent from my phone, or from a different computer.

I found the filter log, conveniently named 'filterlog.html' -- but I haven't 
been able to locate what's causing this behavior. Perhaps it's something in the 
junk filtering system, rather than my customized message filters.


Each individual profile has its own auto-learn junk filter.

Thus, if you are creating messages on your phone, and they get classified as 
junk on your primary working computer, the thing to do is to make sure that 
everything that's getting designated as Junk on the computer gets explicitly 
marked as Not Junk (using shift-J).

For stuff that you've created, there's enough similarities of messages that it 
should take designating only a couple as Not Junk for the filter to recognize 
that your stuff isn't Junk.


YES -- that sounds like it should fix my situation with very little effort -- 
I'll try it!

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Re: Message Filters

[Ed Mullen]

BIll Spikowski wrote:





Bill Spikowski wrote:

Does anyone know where the log file is stored? I'd like to be able
to review it somewhere more convenient than the window provided by
Seamonkey, and be able to search the log file.

I've found msgFilterRules.dat, but all I see there is the filter
definitions, not the filter log.

I think you need to install the SQLite Manager and then find the message
datbase under the SeaMonkey user profile in yor ~/home/Mozilla.


I finally found the filter log file -- in a file named filterlog.html.

It's a plain text file that I can view in a text editor; would the
SQLite Manage be able to view and manipulate this file?


Clicking on it will open it in your browser: That's what HTML files are.

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Re: Message Filters

[NFN Smith]

BIll Spikowski wrote:


>On that one, a guess would be that you may have set configs for sent mail to 
write copies to the Junk folder.
>
>Normally, you want the defaults for that, although when I'm working from a 
profile that's not my primary one (e.g. on another machine), I'll set that profile 
to write sent messages to my inbox.  That way, when I next work from my normal 
connection (which is POP), I have a copy of the original message that I can put in 
my normal filing system.

That's not it for my situation; the messages from me that get routed to junk 
were sent from my phone, or from a different computer.

I found the filter log, conveniently named 'filterlog.html' -- but I haven't 
been able to locate what's causing this behavior. Perhaps it's something in the 
junk filtering system, rather than my customized message filters.



Each individual profile has its own auto-learn junk filter.

Thus, if you are creating messages on your phone, and they get 
classified as junk on your primary working computer, the thing to do is 
to make sure that everything that's getting designated as Junk on the 
computer gets explicitly marked as Not Junk (using shift-J).


For stuff that you've created, there's enough similarities of messages 
that it should take designating only a couple as Not Junk for the filter 
to recognize that your stuff isn't Junk.


If you have several profiles, you'll need to do this exercise on each 
profile.


Smith

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Re: Message Filters

[upscope]

On Friday, September 26, 2014 10:42:36 AM BIll Spikowski wrote:
> >>> Bill Spikowski wrote:
>  Does anyone know where the log file is stored? I'd like to be
>  able
>  to review it somewhere more convenient than the window provided
>  by
>  Seamonkey, and be able to search the log file.
>  
>  I've found msgFilterRules.dat, but all I see there is the filter
>  definitions, not the filter log.
> > 
> > I think you need to install the SQLite Manager and then find the
> > message datbase under the SeaMonkey user profile in yor
> > ~/home/Mozilla.
> I finally found the filter log file -- in a file named filterlog.html.
> 
> It's a plain text file that I can view in a text editor; would the
> SQLite Manage be able to view and manipulate this file?
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Re: Message Filters

[BIll Spikowski]

Bill Spikowski wrote:

Does anyone know where the log file is stored? I'd like to be able
to review it somewhere more convenient than the window provided by
Seamonkey, and be able to search the log file.

I've found msgFilterRules.dat, but all I see there is the filter
definitions, not the filter log.

I think you need to install the SQLite Manager and then find the message
datbase under the SeaMonkey user profile in yor ~/home/Mozilla.


I finally found the filter log file -- in a file named filterlog.html.

It's a plain text file that I can view in a text editor; would the SQLite 
Manage be able to view and manipulate this file?
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Re: Message Filters

[upscope]

On Thursday, September 25, 2014 09:15:34 AM BIll Spikowski wrote:
> Bill Davidsen wrote:
> > BIll Spikowski wrote:
> >> Does anyone know where the log file is stored? I'd like to be able
> >> to review it somewhere more convenient than the window provided by
> >> Seamonkey, and be able to search the log file.
> >> 
> >> I've found msgFilterRules.dat, but all I see there is the filter
> >> definitions, not the filter log.
> >> 
> >> I hadn't even thought about performance improvements; I'm mainly
> >> trying to figure out why certain emails are getting filtered when
> >> I don't want them to. For instance, any email FROM me has gotten
> >> sent to junk, for years now!
> >> 
> >> (I just found a couple of extensions, "filter for filters" and
> >> "quickfilters," and am trying to make them work to allow filters
> >> to be sorted by the name and be searched.)
> > 
> > The order in which they are displayed is the order in which they are
> > run, unless there is no interaction between them that's probably
> > NOT what you want. Where multiple rules may apply to a single
> > message you need some thought not to put the rules in the wrong
> > order and do something really unexpected to yourself.
> > 
> > For rules you want to run on every message, put them first if
> > performance doesn't matter as much as not missing something. The,
> > for performance, put rules which will delete or move many messages
> > before rules which you expect to hit only a few messages. Put rules
> > which are cheap to run, looking at message size or header fields,
> > before filters which look in the body of the message.
> The 'quickfilters' extension works great for sorting filters by name!
> 
> I haven't noticed any performance difference, or odd interaction,
> after sorting them by name. Maybe that's because my filters are
> nearly all by sender name, or a word in the subject line -- and don't
> require looking into the message body.
> 
> I've managed to eliminate about a third of the filters because they're
> clearly obsolete, and consolidate dozens more that were various
> attempts at achieving the same result.
> 
> (BTW, Quickfilters also has a feature for SEARCHING the filters, but I
> haven't figured out how to make that work yet.)
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I think you need to install the SQLite Manager and then find the message 
datbase under the SeaMonkey user profile in yor ~/home/Mozilla. 

Hope that helps.

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Re: Message Filters

[BIll Spikowski]

NFN Smith wrote:

BIll Spikowski wrote:


I hadn't even thought about performance improvements; I'm mainly
trying to figure out why certain emails are getting filtered when I
don't want them to. For instance, any email FROM me has gotten sent
to junk, for years now!



On that one, a guess would be that you may have set configs for sent mail to 
write copies to the Junk folder.

Normally, you want the defaults for that, although when I'm working from a 
profile that's not my primary one (e.g. on another machine), I'll set that 
profile to write sent messages to my inbox.  That way, when I next work from my 
normal connection (which is POP), I have a copy of the original message that I 
can put in my normal filing system.


That's not it for my situation; the messages from me that get routed to junk 
were sent from my phone, or from a different computer.

I found the filter log, conveniently named 'filterlog.html' -- but I haven't 
been able to locate what's causing this behavior. Perhaps it's something in the 
junk filtering system, rather than my customized message filters.

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Re: Message Filters

[BIll Spikowski]

Bill Davidsen wrote:

BIll Spikowski wrote:

Does anyone know where the log file is stored? I'd like to be able to review it
somewhere more convenient than the window provided by Seamonkey, and be able to
search the log file.

I've found msgFilterRules.dat, but all I see there is the filter definitions,
not the filter log.

I hadn't even thought about performance improvements; I'm mainly trying to
figure out why certain emails are getting filtered when I don't want them to.
For instance, any email FROM me has gotten sent to junk, for years now!

(I just found a couple of extensions, "filter for filters" and "quickfilters,"
and am trying to make them work to allow filters to be sorted by the name and be
searched.)


The order in which they are displayed is the order in which they are run, 
unless there is no interaction between them that's probably NOT what you want. 
Where multiple rules may apply to a single message you need some thought not to 
put the rules in the wrong order and do something really unexpected to yourself.

For rules you want to run on every message, put them first if performance 
doesn't matter as much as not missing something. The, for performance, put 
rules which will delete or move many messages before rules which you expect to 
hit only a few messages. Put rules which are cheap to run, looking at message 
size or header fields, before filters which look in the body of the message.




The 'quickfilters' extension works great for sorting filters by name!

I haven't noticed any performance difference, or odd interaction, after sorting 
them by name. Maybe that's because my filters are nearly all by sender name, or 
a word in the subject line -- and don't require looking into the message body.

I've managed to eliminate about a third of the filters because they're clearly 
obsolete, and consolidate dozens more that were various attempts at achieving 
the same result.

(BTW, Quickfilters also has a feature for SEARCHING the filters, but I haven't 
figured out how to make that work yet.)

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Re: Message Filters

[NFN Smith]

BIll Spikowski wrote:


I hadn't even thought about performance improvements; I'm mainly
trying to figure out why certain emails are getting filtered when I
don't want them to. For instance, any email FROM me has gotten sent
to junk, for years now!



On that one, a guess would be that you may have set configs for sent 
mail to write copies to the Junk folder.


Normally, you want the defaults for that, although when I'm working from 
a profile that's not my primary one (e.g. on another machine), I'll set 
that profile to write sent messages to my inbox.  That way, when I next 
work from my normal connection (which is POP), I have a copy of the 
original message that I can put in my normal filing system.


Bill Davidsen added comments about the importance of rule order.  That's 
good enough that I won't try to add further comment, but I will commend 
reading that one.  Get the rules that move the greatest number of 
messages above the ones that get only a few.


Smith
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Re: Message Filters

[Bill Davidsen]

BIll Spikowski wrote:

BIll Spikowski wrote:

NFN Smith wrote:

If you haven't done so, you might want to enable logging for a couple of
weeks, and see which rules are being hit, and which ones aren't.  For the
ones that aren't, consider disabling or deleting, and you might see a little
bit of a performance improvement.


I'll try logging -- hadn't thought about using that to weed out obsolete 
filters!


Actually, logging is already enabled, and has been since 2010!

Does anyone know where the log file is stored? I'd like to be able to review it
somewhere more convenient than the window provided by Seamonkey, and be able to
search the log file.

I've found msgFilterRules.dat, but all I see there is the filter definitions,
not the filter log.

I hadn't even thought about performance improvements; I'm mainly trying to
figure out why certain emails are getting filtered when I don't want them to.
For instance, any email FROM me has gotten sent to junk, for years now!

(I just found a couple of extensions, "filter for filters" and "quickfilters,"
and am trying to make them work to allow filters to be sorted by the name and be
searched.)


The order in which they are displayed is the order in which they are run, unless 
there is no interaction between them that's probably NOT what you want. Where 
multiple rules may apply to a single message you need some thought not to put 
the rules in the wrong order and do something really unexpected to yourself.


For rules you want to run on every message, put them first if performance 
doesn't matter as much as not missing something. The, for performance, put rules 
which will delete or move many messages before rules which you expect to hit 
only a few messages. Put rules which are cheap to run, looking at message size 
or header fields, before filters which look in the body of the message.


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Re: Message Filters

[BIll Spikowski]

BIll Spikowski wrote:

NFN Smith wrote:

If you haven't done so, you might want to enable logging for a couple of weeks, 
and see which rules are being hit, and which ones aren't.  For the ones that 
aren't, consider disabling or deleting, and you might see a little bit of a 
performance improvement.


I'll try logging -- hadn't thought about using that to weed out obsolete 
filters!


Actually, logging is already enabled, and has been since 2010!

Does anyone know where the log file is stored? I'd like to be able to review it 
somewhere more convenient than the window provided by Seamonkey, and be able to 
search the log file.

I've found msgFilterRules.dat, but all I see there is the filter definitions, 
not the filter log.

I hadn't even thought about performance improvements; I'm mainly trying to 
figure out why certain emails are getting filtered when I don't want them to. 
For instance, any email FROM me has gotten sent to junk, for years now!

(I just found a couple of extensions, "filter for filters" and "quickfilters," 
and am trying to make them work to allow filters to be sorted by the name and be searched.)
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Re: Message Filters

[BIll Spikowski]

NFN Smith wrote:

BIll Spikowski wrote:

I've accumulated several hundred message filters over the years.

They're apparently displayed in the order they were created.

Are there any tools that would allow me to sort them, or put them in folders, 
or compare and delete duplicate entries?



Other than being able to shift up or down (and altering order of execution), 
I'm not aware of any.

That said, if you have that many, chances are probably pretty good that you've 
got a bunch that are rarely being hit, if at all.

If you haven't done so, you might want to enable logging for a couple of weeks, 
and see which rules are being hit, and which ones aren't.  For the ones that 
aren't, consider disabling or deleting, and you might see a little bit of a 
performance improvement.

Smith



I'll try logging -- hadn't thought about using that to weed out obsolete 
filters!

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Re: Message Filters

[NFN Smith]

BIll Spikowski wrote:

I've accumulated several hundred message filters over the years.

They're apparently displayed in the order they were created.

Are there any tools that would allow me to sort them, or put them in folders, 
or compare and delete duplicate entries?



Other than being able to shift up or down (and altering order of 
execution), I'm not aware of any.


That said, if you have that many, chances are probably pretty good that 
you've got a bunch that are rarely being hit, if at all.


If you haven't done so, you might want to enable logging for a couple of 
weeks, and see which rules are being hit, and which ones aren't.  For 
the ones that aren't, consider disabling or deleting, and you might see 
a little bit of a performance improvement.


Smith

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Message Filters

[BIll Spikowski]

I've accumulated several hundred message filters over the years.

They're apparently displayed in the order they were created.

Are there any tools that would allow me to sort them, or put them in folders, 
or compare and delete duplicate entries?

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Re: Message Filters not working?

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Frosted Flake wrote:

Seamonkey 2.29 on Windows XP.
I have a filter set up and enabled for mozilla.general that has:
 From contains GerardJan
Set to mark as read, ignore thread, and delete message.
This filter has been in effect for a long time and appears to have been
working in the past.
Today, I see a message with the From = GerardJan but the message is
still there.
If I Run the filter on mozilla.general, it does nothing.
Apply filter is set to run manually and also when getting new mail
before junk classification.
The other day, I had another message that was not filtered and I could
not get it to filter either.
I don't remember when Seamonkey did the update to 2.29.

Has something changed with message filtering with 2.29?



I saw a message filter error on my email account in SM 2.29 on my 
MacBook Pro.  and I also couldn't get the "restore previous session" 
browser start page to work.


Immediately switched back to SM 2.23 since the email address 
"autocomplete" is complete garbage on anything newer.


GW
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Re: Message Filters not working?

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Frosted Flake wrote:

EE wrote:

Frosted Flake wrote:

Seamonkey 2.29 on Windows XP.
I have a filter set up and enabled for mozilla.general that has:
 From contains GerardJan
Set to mark as read, ignore thread, and delete message.
This filter has been in effect for a long time and appears to have been
working in the past.
Today, I see a message with the From = GerardJan but the message is
still there.
If I Run the filter on mozilla.general, it does nothing.
Apply filter is set to run manually and also when getting new mail
before junk classification.
The other day, I had another message that was not filtered and I could
not get it to filter either.
I don't remember when Seamonkey did the update to 2.29.

Has something changed with message filtering with 2.29?


I doubt it.  I have message filters to block Italian spam on these
newsgroups, and I have not seen any since.


I have them also and see the same (no Italian SPAM) but this GerardJan
one is not being filtered.


More strangeness.
I have TWO filters set for the mozilla.general newsgroup.  When I added 
"From contains GerardJan" to the Italian SPAM filter, I could run the 
filter and get rid of the GerardJan message.
Why is that same information not working when it is in a separate filter 
entry?  (Both filters are/were enabled)


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Re: Message Filters not working?

[Frosted Flake]

NFN Smith wrote:

EE wrote:

I doubt it.  I have message filters to block Italian spam on these
newsgroups, and I have not seen any since.


My logs show that the Italian newsgroup spam is being blocked nicely.

However, I am seeing signs of several of my mail filters that are being
ignored.  For these, the problem is with received messages on a POP
connection that are supposed to be put in specific folders that are
being left in the Inbox.  As far as I can tell this is something
happening only since I upgraded to 2.29.

Smith

This is not on a POP connection but rather on the newsgroup mentioned.

I have rebooted the machine and I can still not get this message filter 
to filter out GerardJan


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Re: Message Filters not working?

[Frosted Flake]

EE wrote:

Frosted Flake wrote:

Seamonkey 2.29 on Windows XP.
I have a filter set up and enabled for mozilla.general that has:
 From contains GerardJan
Set to mark as read, ignore thread, and delete message.
This filter has been in effect for a long time and appears to have been
working in the past.
Today, I see a message with the From = GerardJan but the message is
still there.
If I Run the filter on mozilla.general, it does nothing.
Apply filter is set to run manually and also when getting new mail
before junk classification.
The other day, I had another message that was not filtered and I could
not get it to filter either.
I don't remember when Seamonkey did the update to 2.29.

Has something changed with message filtering with 2.29?


I doubt it.  I have message filters to block Italian spam on these
newsgroups, and I have not seen any since.

I have them also and see the same (no Italian SPAM) but this GerardJan 
one is not being filtered.


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Re: Message Filters not working?

[NFN Smith]

EE wrote:

I doubt it.  I have message filters to block Italian spam on these
newsgroups, and I have not seen any since.


My logs show that the Italian newsgroup spam is being blocked nicely.

However, I am seeing signs of several of my mail filters that are being 
ignored.  For these, the problem is with received messages on a POP 
connection that are supposed to be put in specific folders that are 
being left in the Inbox.  As far as I can tell this is something 
happening only since I upgraded to 2.29.


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[EE]

Frosted Flake wrote:

Seamonkey 2.29 on Windows XP.
I have a filter set up and enabled for mozilla.general that has:
 From contains GerardJan
Set to mark as read, ignore thread, and delete message.
This filter has been in effect for a long time and appears to have been
working in the past.
Today, I see a message with the From = GerardJan but the message is
still there.
If I Run the filter on mozilla.general, it does nothing.
Apply filter is set to run manually and also when getting new mail
before junk classification.
The other day, I had another message that was not filtered and I could
not get it to filter either.
I don't remember when Seamonkey did the update to 2.29.

Has something changed with message filtering with 2.29?

I doubt it.  I have message filters to block Italian spam on these 
newsgroups, and I have not seen any since.


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Message Filters not working?

[Frosted Flake]

Seamonkey 2.29 on Windows XP.
I have a filter set up and enabled for mozilla.general that has:
From contains GerardJan
Set to mark as read, ignore thread, and delete message.
This filter has been in effect for a long time and appears to have been 
working in the past.
Today, I see a message with the From = GerardJan but the message is 
still there.

If I Run the filter on mozilla.general, it does nothing.
Apply filter is set to run manually and also when getting new mail 
before junk classification.
The other day, I had another message that was not filtered and I could 
not get it to filter either.

I don't remember when Seamonkey did the update to 2.29.

Has something changed with message filtering with 2.29?

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Re: Message Filters In Web Based Accounts ???

[Daniel]

Geoff Welsh wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Arnie Goetchius wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

Geoff Welsh wrote:

Daniel wrote:





In advising the OP to download their Yahoo messages and then do the
filtering in SeaMonkey, have you tried it??

I, sort of, recall reading somewhere here-abouts, that filters are
not
working, for some reason, and, by-the-by, last night I set up two
new
filters on my Usenet account but, tonight, they are not doing
anything.



I can't think of how filters could even work in News accounts only
Mail.
e.g, you can't "delete" posts or mark them "Junk" like you can with
messages so a filter couldn't do that either.

Can you give some examples?

GW

Hmmm . . . I use filters on News groups, and they work just fine. Note
that my setting is View>Threads>Threads With Unread, so for postings
that I find to be abusive, my filter (based on the sender) is set to
"Mark As Read" and they don't show up. And yes, Delete is another
choice
and it works when tested, although I don't actually use it.

True, some Mail settings like Junk aren't available for News groups.

HTH.

Larry S.


Geoff, in News Groups you can set filters to e.g. Mark as Read, Copy
Message to, Ignore Thread (there are about 10-12 possible filters). And
you can apply the filters to individual groups on a server or to ever
group on the server.

Larry, have the worked in the last week or so?? I'm sure I've read
somewhere that they are not working, maybe since the release of SM
2.21,
so your old filters may still work (I don't know either way for sure),
but on my new filters they are not working!


The OP is not talking about down loading messages in Newsgroups. It is
regular email that he is dealing with. I have no filters on my Yahoo
email account and download everything usiung POP3 and let SM do the
filtering.


Arnie, in my post at the top of this reply (i.e. just below the snip), I
do note that the OP is trying to download mail from his Yahoo account
and suggest that filters are not working at all. In his reply, Geoff
then makes the jump to talking about filters on NG's.



WRONG.  Daniel. said "I set up two new filters on my Usenet account but,
tonight, they are not doing anything."  And I responded to that.  I
didn't make any jump.

GW


You are quite right, Geoff, sorry, I guess I was just trying to see what 
I wanted to see.


Again, sorry!

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Re: Message Filters In Web Based Accounts ???

[Geoff Welsh]

Daniel wrote:

Arnie Goetchius wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

Geoff Welsh wrote:

Daniel wrote:





In advising the OP to download their Yahoo messages and then do the
filtering in SeaMonkey, have you tried it??

I, sort of, recall reading somewhere here-abouts, that filters are
not
working, for some reason, and, by-the-by, last night I set up two new
filters on my Usenet account but, tonight, they are not doing
anything.



I can't think of how filters could even work in News accounts only
Mail.
e.g, you can't "delete" posts or mark them "Junk" like you can with
messages so a filter couldn't do that either.

Can you give some examples?

GW

Hmmm . . . I use filters on News groups, and they work just fine. Note
that my setting is View>Threads>Threads With Unread, so for postings
that I find to be abusive, my filter (based on the sender) is set to
"Mark As Read" and they don't show up. And yes, Delete is another
choice
and it works when tested, although I don't actually use it.

True, some Mail settings like Junk aren't available for News groups.

HTH.

Larry S.


Geoff, in News Groups you can set filters to e.g. Mark as Read, Copy
Message to, Ignore Thread (there are about 10-12 possible filters). And
you can apply the filters to individual groups on a server or to ever
group on the server.

Larry, have the worked in the last week or so?? I'm sure I've read
somewhere that they are not working, maybe since the release of SM 2.21,
so your old filters may still work (I don't know either way for sure),
but on my new filters they are not working!


The OP is not talking about down loading messages in Newsgroups. It is
regular email that he is dealing with. I have no filters on my Yahoo
email account and download everything usiung POP3 and let SM do the
filtering.


Arnie, in my post at the top of this reply (i.e. just below the snip), I
do note that the OP is trying to download mail from his Yahoo account
and suggest that filters are not working at all. In his reply, Geoff
then makes the jump to talking about filters on NG's.



WRONG.  Daniel. said "I set up two new filters on my Usenet account but, 
tonight, they are not doing anything."  And I responded to that.  I 
didn't make any jump.


GW
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Re: Message Filters In Web Based Accounts ???

[Daniel]

Geoff Welsh wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Dennis wrote:

Geoff Welsh wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

..



Hmmm . . . I see "Delete" as a choice when filtering news groups. I
don't usually use it, but have tested it and it seems to work just
fine.
...

Larry S.


since the filter defs start with "When Checking mail" not "when
checking
news" I didn't think it could possibly work on newsgroups and was only
in there as a bug.

I just tried it, I'll know tomorrow if it works (same guy posts every
day about religion in alt.autos.toyota)

GW



No doubt about it, filters, specifically delete, work in news. I have a
delete filter set for several posters in .general that I do not wish to
read. If it doesn't work for you then something is broke. Or possibly a
platform problem.

Dennis


Well, on my Usenet server, I have several set to "Mark as Read" and they
don't work!!

As shown below, this is on Linux x86_64; rv:24.0



The delete I set up works.  Thanks Dennis.

GW


As I've reported elsewhere hereabouts, Geoff, I've tested both "Delete" 
and "Mark as Read" on messages I've posted to moz.test and they've 
worked, so now I have more testing to do on my Usenet account.


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Re: Message Filters In Web Based Accounts ???

[Daniel]

Daniel wrote:

Arnie Goetchius wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

Geoff Welsh wrote:

Daniel wrote:





In advising the OP to download their Yahoo messages and then do the
filtering in SeaMonkey, have you tried it??

I, sort of, recall reading somewhere here-abouts, that filters are
not
working, for some reason, and, by-the-by, last night I set up two new
filters on my Usenet account but, tonight, they are not doing
anything.



I can't think of how filters could even work in News accounts only
Mail.
e.g, you can't "delete" posts or mark them "Junk" like you can
with
messages so a filter couldn't do that either.

Can you give some examples?

GW

Hmmm . . . I use filters on News groups, and they work just fine. Note
that my setting is View>Threads>Threads With Unread, so for postings
that I find to be abusive, my filter (based on the sender) is set to
"Mark As Read" and they don't show up. And yes, Delete is another
choice
and it works when tested, although I don't actually use it.

True, some Mail settings like Junk aren't available for News groups.

HTH.

Larry S.


Geoff, in News Groups you can set filters to e.g. Mark as Read, Copy
Message to, Ignore Thread (there are about 10-12 possible filters). And
you can apply the filters to individual groups on a server or to ever
group on the server.

Larry, have the worked in the last week or so?? I'm sure I've read
somewhere that they are not working, maybe since the release of SM 2.21,
so your old filters may still work (I don't know either way for sure),
but on my new filters they are not working!


The OP is not talking about down loading messages in Newsgroups. It is
regular email that he is dealing with. I have no filters on my Yahoo
email account and download everything usiung POP3 and let SM do the
filtering.


Arnie, in my post at the top of this reply (i.e. just below the snip), I
do note that the OP is trying to download mail from his Yahoo account
and suggest that filters are not working at all. In his reply, Geoff
then makes the jump to talking about filters on NG's.

So you are correct, the OP is dealing with Mail, applying filters at
Yahoo, and then wanting SM to download all the sub-folders from Yahoo,
rather than just downloading all mail from Yahoo and then letting SM do
the filtering!

Sorry if there was any confusion about if the problem/function was for
Mail or for News groups.


Just as a by-the-by, I set a Couple of Filters for moz.text then posted 
messages to that group and those filters *did* work, so I'll have to do 
more testing on my Usenet account.


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Re: Message Filters In Web Based Accounts ???

[Daniel]

Arnie Goetchius wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

Geoff Welsh wrote:

Daniel wrote:





In advising the OP to download their Yahoo messages and then do the
filtering in SeaMonkey, have you tried it??

I, sort of, recall reading somewhere here-abouts, that filters are not
working, for some reason, and, by-the-by, last night I set up two new
filters on my Usenet account but, tonight, they are not doing anything.



I can't think of how filters could even work in News accounts only Mail.
e.g, you can't "delete" posts or mark them "Junk" like you can with
messages so a filter couldn't do that either.

Can you give some examples?

GW

Hmmm . . . I use filters on News groups, and they work just fine. Note
that my setting is View>Threads>Threads With Unread, so for postings
that I find to be abusive, my filter (based on the sender) is set to
"Mark As Read" and they don't show up. And yes, Delete is another choice
and it works when tested, although I don't actually use it.

True, some Mail settings like Junk aren't available for News groups.

HTH.

Larry S.


Geoff, in News Groups you can set filters to e.g. Mark as Read, Copy
Message to, Ignore Thread (there are about 10-12 possible filters). And
you can apply the filters to individual groups on a server or to ever
group on the server.

Larry, have the worked in the last week or so?? I'm sure I've read
somewhere that they are not working, maybe since the release of SM 2.21,
so your old filters may still work (I don't know either way for sure),
but on my new filters they are not working!


The OP is not talking about down loading messages in Newsgroups. It is
regular email that he is dealing with. I have no filters on my Yahoo
email account and download everything usiung POP3 and let SM do the
filtering.


Arnie, in my post at the top of this reply (i.e. just below the snip), I 
do note that the OP is trying to download mail from his Yahoo account 
and suggest that filters are not working at all. In his reply, Geoff 
then makes the jump to talking about filters on NG's.


So you are correct, the OP is dealing with Mail, applying filters at 
Yahoo, and then wanting SM to download all the sub-folders from Yahoo, 
rather than just downloading all mail from Yahoo and then letting SM do 
the filtering!


Sorry if there was any confusion about if the problem/function was for 
Mail or for News groups.


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Re: Message Filters In Web Based Accounts ???

[Geoff Welsh]

Daniel wrote:

Dennis wrote:

Geoff Welsh wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

..



Hmmm . . . I see "Delete" as a choice when filtering news groups. I
don't usually use it, but have tested it and it seems to work just
fine.
...

Larry S.


since the filter defs start with "When Checking mail" not "when checking
news" I didn't think it could possibly work on newsgroups and was only
in there as a bug.

I just tried it, I'll know tomorrow if it works (same guy posts every
day about religion in alt.autos.toyota)

GW



No doubt about it, filters, specifically delete, work in news. I have a
delete filter set for several posters in .general that I do not wish to
read. If it doesn't work for you then something is broke. Or possibly a
platform problem.

Dennis


Well, on my Usenet server, I have several set to "Mark as Read" and they
don't work!!

As shown below, this is on Linux x86_64; rv:24.0



The delete I set up works.  Thanks Dennis.

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Re: Message Filters In Web Based Accounts ???

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ss wrote:
> Daniel wrote:
>> MCBastos wrote:
>>> Interviewed by CNN on 05/10/2013 19:19, Ray Davison told the world:
>>>> ss wrote:
>>>>> Hello all, My question today is, how can I get SM 2.21 go to my
>>>>> sub-folders to collect mail on web based accounts? e.g. in yahoo I
>>>>> have
>>>>> eight message filters which do not stay in the in-box, they go
>>>>> directly
>>>>> to their respective folders at yahoo.com. What are the settings for
>>>>> having sm check the filters to import the messages or is there a
>>>>> setting
>>>>> change at yahoo.com I need to make?
>>>>
>>>> I assume you want to bring mail from Yahoo to SM ao that it resides on
>>>> your HDD.  If so, just get rid of the filters in Yahoo, create a Yahoo
>>>> account in SM, and let SM filter them.
>>>
>>> Or else use IMAP, which reproduces locally the server's folder
>>> structure. In fact, Yahoo does not give POP access for free accounts,
>>> but it does give IMAP (although they claim it's "unsupported" for
>>> desktop clients; they say it's "just for phones and tablets"). Although
>>> I find their IMAP behaves slightly oddly.
>>
>> In advising the OP to download their Yahoo messages and then do the
>> filtering in SeaMonkey, have you tried it??
>>
>> I, sort of, recall reading somewhere here-abouts, that filters are not
>> working, for some reason, and, by-the-by, last night I set up two new
>> filters on my Usenet account but, tonight, they are not doing anything.
>>
> 
> Daniel,
> 
> I think I was advised to filter within SM and not in Y, which I
> currently do. I also was filtering in Yahoo, which was not permitting me
> to gain access to already filtered messages, only those in the main folder.
> 
> Thank you...
I use Yahoo and do exactly that. No filters on Yahoo and do all the
filtering on SM using POP3 for the download.
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Re: Message Filters In Web Based Accounts ???

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Daniel wrote:
> Larry S. wrote:
>> Geoff Welsh wrote:
>>> Daniel wrote:
> 
> 
> 
 In advising the OP to download their Yahoo messages and then do the
 filtering in SeaMonkey, have you tried it??

 I, sort of, recall reading somewhere here-abouts, that filters are not
 working, for some reason, and, by-the-by, last night I set up two new
 filters on my Usenet account but, tonight, they are not doing anything.

>>>
>>> I can't think of how filters could even work in News accounts only Mail.
>>>e.g, you can't "delete" posts or mark them "Junk" like you can with
>>> messages so a filter couldn't do that either.
>>>
>>> Can you give some examples?
>>>
>>> GW
>> Hmmm . . . I use filters on News groups, and they work just fine. Note
>> that my setting is View>Threads>Threads With Unread, so for postings
>> that I find to be abusive, my filter (based on the sender) is set to
>> "Mark As Read" and they don't show up. And yes, Delete is another choice
>> and it works when tested, although I don't actually use it.
>>
>> True, some Mail settings like Junk aren't available for News groups.
>>
>> HTH.
>>
>> Larry S.
> 
> Geoff, in News Groups you can set filters to e.g. Mark as Read, Copy
> Message to, Ignore Thread (there are about 10-12 possible filters). And
> you can apply the filters to individual groups on a server or to ever
> group on the server.
> 
> Larry, have the worked in the last week or so?? I'm sure I've read
> somewhere that they are not working, maybe since the release of SM 2.21,
> so your old filters may still work (I don't know either way for sure),
> but on my new filters they are not working!
> 
The OP is not talking about down loading messages in Newsgroups. It is
regular email that he is dealing with. I have no filters on my Yahoo
email account and download everything usiung POP3 and let SM do the
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[Daniel]

Dennis wrote:

Geoff Welsh wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

..



Hmmm . . . I see "Delete" as a choice when filtering news groups. I
don't usually use it, but have tested it and it seems to work just fine.
...

Larry S.


since the filter defs start with "When Checking mail" not "when checking
news" I didn't think it could possibly work on newsgroups and was only
in there as a bug.

I just tried it, I'll know tomorrow if it works (same guy posts every
day about religion in alt.autos.toyota)

GW



No doubt about it, filters, specifically delete, work in news. I have a
delete filter set for several posters in .general that I do not wish to
read. If it doesn't work for you then something is broke. Or possibly a
platform problem.

Dennis


Well, on my Usenet server, I have several set to "Mark as Read" and they 
don't work!!


As shown below, this is on Linux x86_64; rv:24.0

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Re: Message Filters In Web Based Accounts ???

[Dennis]

Geoff Welsh wrote:
> Larry S. wrote:
>> ..
>>>
>> Hmmm . . . I see "Delete" as a choice when filtering news groups. I
>> don't usually use it, but have tested it and it seems to work just fine.
>> ...
>>
>> Larry S.
> 
> since the filter defs start with "When Checking mail" not "when checking 
> news" I didn't think it could possibly work on newsgroups and was only 
> in there as a bug.
> 
> I just tried it, I'll know tomorrow if it works (same guy posts every 
> day about religion in alt.autos.toyota)
> 
> GW
> 

No doubt about it, filters, specifically delete, work in news. I have a
delete filter set for several posters in .general that I do not wish to
read. If it doesn't work for you then something is broke. Or possibly a
platform problem.

Dennis

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Re: Message Filters In Web Based Accounts ???

[Geoff Welsh]

Larry S. wrote:

..



Hmmm . . . I see "Delete" as a choice when filtering news groups. I
don't usually use it, but have tested it and it seems to work just fine.
...

Larry S.


since the filter defs start with "When Checking mail" not "when checking 
news" I didn't think it could possibly work on newsgroups and was only 
in there as a bug.


I just tried it, I'll know tomorrow if it works (same guy posts every 
day about religion in alt.autos.toyota)


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ss wrote:


Paul - thank you. The challenge is/was getting the already filtered
emails into SM.


The only thing I can think of is to retrieve all mail, which (assuming 
this is a POP download) will empty the online Inbox. Then go into the 
webmail and move the filtered messages back to the inbox and do another 
POP download. Lather, rinse, repeat.


If you've filtered to only a couple of other boxes online, this is 
practical, but if you have an elaborate system with dozens of online 
boxes, never mind.


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[ss]

Daniel wrote:

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 05/10/2013 19:19, Ray Davison told the world:

ss wrote:

Hello all, My question today is, how can I get SM 2.21 go to my
sub-folders to collect mail on web based accounts? e.g. in yahoo I have
eight message filters which do not stay in the in-box, they go directly
to their respective folders at yahoo.com. What are the settings for
having sm check the filters to import the messages or is there a
setting
change at yahoo.com I need to make?


I assume you want to bring mail from Yahoo to SM ao that it resides on
your HDD.  If so, just get rid of the filters in Yahoo, create a Yahoo
account in SM, and let SM filter them.


Or else use IMAP, which reproduces locally the server's folder
structure. In fact, Yahoo does not give POP access for free accounts,
but it does give IMAP (although they claim it's "unsupported" for
desktop clients; they say it's "just for phones and tablets"). Although
I find their IMAP behaves slightly oddly.


In advising the OP to download their Yahoo messages and then do the
filtering in SeaMonkey, have you tried it??

I, sort of, recall reading somewhere here-abouts, that filters are not
working, for some reason, and, by-the-by, last night I set up two new
filters on my Usenet account but, tonight, they are not doing anything.



Daniel,

I think I was advised to filter within SM and not in Y, which I 
currently do. I also was filtering in Yahoo, which was not permitting me 
to gain access to already filtered messages, only those in the main folder.


Thank you...
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[ss]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Daniel wrote:

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 05/10/2013 19:19, Ray Davison told the world:

ss wrote:

Hello all, My question today is, how can I get SM 2.21 go to my
sub-folders to collect mail on web based accounts? e.g. in yahoo I
have
eight message filters which do not stay in the in-box, they go
directly
to their respective folders at yahoo.com. What are the settings for
having sm check the filters to import the messages or is there a
setting
change at yahoo.com I need to make?


I assume you want to bring mail from Yahoo to SM ao that it resides on
your HDD.  If so, just get rid of the filters in Yahoo, create a Yahoo
account in SM, and let SM filter them.


Or else use IMAP, which reproduces locally the server's folder
structure. In fact, Yahoo does not give POP access for free accounts,
but it does give IMAP (although they claim it's "unsupported" for
desktop clients; they say it's "just for phones and tablets"). Although
I find their IMAP behaves slightly oddly.


In advising the OP to download their Yahoo messages and then do the
filtering in SeaMonkey, have you tried it??

I, sort of, recall reading somewhere here-abouts, that filters are not
working, for some reason, and, by-the-by, last night I set up two new
filters on my Usenet account but, tonight, they are not doing anything.


I've used a wide variety of filters on POP3 mail on a dozen or so
different accounts going all the way back to Netscape 4.7, and they have
always worked as expected. Most recently, I've used them on a gmail
account, once I figured out how to tell Google to allow POP mail
downloads, and they worked fine. So if the OP can retrieve Yahoo mail
this way, I expect filters to work as well.

However, I haven't tried filters with newsgroups, so I can't speak
directly to your experience.



Paul - thank you. The challenge is/was getting the already filtered 
emails into SM.


SM's filters work well, with the exception of when I make errors in 
setting them up correctly for specific messages.. LOL


Thank you for your input, it is appreciated.

bo1953
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[ss]

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 05/10/2013 19:19, Ray Davison told the world:

ss wrote:

Hello all, My question today is, how can I get SM 2.21 go to my
sub-folders to collect mail on web based accounts? e.g. in yahoo I have
eight message filters which do not stay in the in-box, they go directly
to their respective folders at yahoo.com. What are the settings for
having sm check the filters to import the messages or is there a setting
change at yahoo.com I need to make?


I assume you want to bring mail from Yahoo to SM ao that it resides on
your HDD.  If so, just get rid of the filters in Yahoo, create a Yahoo
account in SM, and let SM filter them.


Or else use IMAP, which reproduces locally the server's folder
structure. In fact, Yahoo does not give POP access for free accounts,
but it does give IMAP (although they claim it's "unsupported" for
desktop clients; they say it's "just for phones and tablets"). Although
I find their IMAP behaves slightly oddly.

MCB - Thanks, I have pop3 access but can redo for IMAP. Just did not 
want to go through the changes, which are not bad at all..

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[Larry S.]

Daniel wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 07/10/2013 08:52, Daniel told the world:

MCBastos wrote:



In advising the OP to download their Yahoo messages and then do the
filtering in SeaMonkey, have you tried it??

I, sort of, recall reading somewhere here-abouts, that filters are not
working, for some reason, and, by-the-by, last night I set up two new
filters on my Usenet account but, tonight, they are not doing anything.


Filtering works fine with both POP and IMAP, with one major exception:
AFAIK, filters only apply to new messages in the main inbox. That is, if
you have set up rules on the webserver to move messages to other
folders, those messages will be ignored by Seamonkey's filters. I have
had a few dozen filters spread over a bunch of e-mail accounts, running
the gamut from brain-deader-than-usual POP3 to standard POP and IMAP to
Gmail and Yahoo IMAP-weirdness. Hotmail/Life/Outlook does not support
IMAP so far ("We will get around to it eventually, sometime, hopefully
before 2020, but Why would you want to use a widely-supported open
protocol instead of our own proprietary one, which is supported only by
a handful of mails clients other than our own crappy ones?"), so the
times I had to deal with them, I had to use POP.

There have been reports of problems with filtering in news (NNTP)
accounts, however. I haven't tested to see the extent of the
limitations. However, many filter actions like "delete" and "mark as
spam" aren't available for newsgroups. It MIGHT be possible to use
filters to do the things that are available in the right-click menu, but
as I said, I didn't test it.



Hmmm . . . I see "Delete" as a choice when filtering news groups. I
don't usually use it, but have tested it and it seems to work just fine.
(Of course I'm talking about the thread pane, not during individual
message display.)

Larry S.


Larry, I normally set my filters on news groups to "Mark as Read" so I
don't "see" the posts from e.g. those who's opinions I'm not interested
in reading.

So in a particular NG, there might be 15 un-read message, but when the
headers are downloaded, there might be only 10 un-read messages, with
the other five having been "Marked as Read".

Daniel, that's exactly what I do. Working in 2.21 as far as I can tell. 
Suppose I could make sure, by unchecking the "Enabled" box for the 
filters, and see if I get the unwelcome messages. However, I prefer to 
let someone else make that determination (bad citizen!).


Larry S.
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[Daniel]

Larry S. wrote:

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 07/10/2013 08:52, Daniel told the world:

MCBastos wrote:



In advising the OP to download their Yahoo messages and then do the
filtering in SeaMonkey, have you tried it??

I, sort of, recall reading somewhere here-abouts, that filters are not
working, for some reason, and, by-the-by, last night I set up two new
filters on my Usenet account but, tonight, they are not doing anything.


Filtering works fine with both POP and IMAP, with one major exception:
AFAIK, filters only apply to new messages in the main inbox. That is, if
you have set up rules on the webserver to move messages to other
folders, those messages will be ignored by Seamonkey's filters. I have
had a few dozen filters spread over a bunch of e-mail accounts, running
the gamut from brain-deader-than-usual POP3 to standard POP and IMAP to
Gmail and Yahoo IMAP-weirdness. Hotmail/Life/Outlook does not support
IMAP so far ("We will get around to it eventually, sometime, hopefully
before 2020, but Why would you want to use a widely-supported open
protocol instead of our own proprietary one, which is supported only by
a handful of mails clients other than our own crappy ones?"), so the
times I had to deal with them, I had to use POP.

There have been reports of problems with filtering in news (NNTP)
accounts, however. I haven't tested to see the extent of the
limitations. However, many filter actions like "delete" and "mark as
spam" aren't available for newsgroups. It MIGHT be possible to use
filters to do the things that are available in the right-click menu, but
as I said, I didn't test it.



Hmmm . . . I see "Delete" as a choice when filtering news groups. I
don't usually use it, but have tested it and it seems to work just fine.
(Of course I'm talking about the thread pane, not during individual
message display.)

Larry S.


Larry, I normally set my filters on news groups to "Mark as Read" so I 
don't "see" the posts from e.g. those who's opinions I'm not interested 
in reading.


So in a particular NG, there might be 15 un-read message, but when the 
headers are downloaded, there might be only 10 un-read messages, with 
the other five having been "Marked as Read".


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[Daniel]

Larry S. wrote:

Geoff Welsh wrote:

Daniel wrote:





In advising the OP to download their Yahoo messages and then do the
filtering in SeaMonkey, have you tried it??

I, sort of, recall reading somewhere here-abouts, that filters are not
working, for some reason, and, by-the-by, last night I set up two new
filters on my Usenet account but, tonight, they are not doing anything.



I can't think of how filters could even work in News accounts only Mail.
   e.g, you can't "delete" posts or mark them "Junk" like you can with
messages so a filter couldn't do that either.

Can you give some examples?

GW

Hmmm . . . I use filters on News groups, and they work just fine. Note
that my setting is View>Threads>Threads With Unread, so for postings
that I find to be abusive, my filter (based on the sender) is set to
"Mark As Read" and they don't show up. And yes, Delete is another choice
and it works when tested, although I don't actually use it.

True, some Mail settings like Junk aren't available for News groups.

HTH.

Larry S.


Geoff, in News Groups you can set filters to e.g. Mark as Read, Copy 
Message to, Ignore Thread (there are about 10-12 possible filters). And 
you can apply the filters to individual groups on a server or to ever 
group on the server.


Larry, have the worked in the last week or so?? I'm sure I've read 
somewhere that they are not working, maybe since the release of SM 2.21, 
so your old filters may still work (I don't know either way for sure), 
but on my new filters they are not working!


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Re: Message Filters In Web Based Accounts ???

[Larry S.]

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 07/10/2013 08:52, Daniel told the world:

MCBastos wrote:



In advising the OP to download their Yahoo messages and then do the
filtering in SeaMonkey, have you tried it??

I, sort of, recall reading somewhere here-abouts, that filters are not
working, for some reason, and, by-the-by, last night I set up two new
filters on my Usenet account but, tonight, they are not doing anything.


Filtering works fine with both POP and IMAP, with one major exception:
AFAIK, filters only apply to new messages in the main inbox. That is, if
you have set up rules on the webserver to move messages to other
folders, those messages will be ignored by Seamonkey's filters. I have
had a few dozen filters spread over a bunch of e-mail accounts, running
the gamut from brain-deader-than-usual POP3 to standard POP and IMAP to
Gmail and Yahoo IMAP-weirdness. Hotmail/Life/Outlook does not support
IMAP so far ("We will get around to it eventually, sometime, hopefully
before 2020, but Why would you want to use a widely-supported open
protocol instead of our own proprietary one, which is supported only by
a handful of mails clients other than our own crappy ones?"), so the
times I had to deal with them, I had to use POP.

There have been reports of problems with filtering in news (NNTP)
accounts, however. I haven't tested to see the extent of the
limitations. However, many filter actions like "delete" and "mark as
spam" aren't available for newsgroups. It MIGHT be possible to use
filters to do the things that are available in the right-click menu, but
as I said, I didn't test it.


Hmmm . . . I see "Delete" as a choice when filtering news groups. I 
don't usually use it, but have tested it and it seems to work just fine. 
(Of course I'm talking about the thread pane, not during individual 
message display.)


Larry S.
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[MCBastos]

Interviewed by CNN on 07/10/2013 18:50, MCBastos told the world:

> Hotmail/Life/Outlook does not support
> IMAP so far ("We will get around to it eventually, sometime, hopefully
> before 2020, but Why would you want to use a widely-supported open
> protocol instead of our own proprietary one, which is supported only by
> a handful of mails clients other than our own crappy ones?"), so the
> times I had to deal with them, I had to use POP.

Have to eat my own words... it seems they finally got around to it last
month.

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[MCBastos]

Interviewed by CNN on 07/10/2013 08:52, Daniel told the world:
> MCBastos wrote:

> In advising the OP to download their Yahoo messages and then do the 
> filtering in SeaMonkey, have you tried it??
> 
> I, sort of, recall reading somewhere here-abouts, that filters are not 
> working, for some reason, and, by-the-by, last night I set up two new 
> filters on my Usenet account but, tonight, they are not doing anything.

Filtering works fine with both POP and IMAP, with one major exception:
AFAIK, filters only apply to new messages in the main inbox. That is, if
you have set up rules on the webserver to move messages to other
folders, those messages will be ignored by Seamonkey's filters. I have
had a few dozen filters spread over a bunch of e-mail accounts, running
the gamut from brain-deader-than-usual POP3 to standard POP and IMAP to
Gmail and Yahoo IMAP-weirdness. Hotmail/Life/Outlook does not support
IMAP so far ("We will get around to it eventually, sometime, hopefully
before 2020, but Why would you want to use a widely-supported open
protocol instead of our own proprietary one, which is supported only by
a handful of mails clients other than our own crappy ones?"), so the
times I had to deal with them, I had to use POP.

There have been reports of problems with filtering in news (NNTP)
accounts, however. I haven't tested to see the extent of the
limitations. However, many filter actions like "delete" and "mark as
spam" aren't available for newsgroups. It MIGHT be possible to use
filters to do the things that are available in the right-click menu, but
as I said, I didn't test it.


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[Larry S.]

Geoff Welsh wrote:

Daniel wrote:

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 05/10/2013 19:19, Ray Davison told the world:

ss wrote:

Hello all, My question today is, how can I get SM 2.21 go to my
sub-folders to collect mail on web based accounts? e.g. in yahoo I
have
eight message filters which do not stay in the in-box, they go
directly
to their respective folders at yahoo.com. What are the settings for
having sm check the filters to import the messages or is there a
setting
change at yahoo.com I need to make?


I assume you want to bring mail from Yahoo to SM ao that it resides on
your HDD. If so, just get rid of the filters in Yahoo, create a Yahoo
account in SM, and let SM filter them.


Or else use IMAP, which reproduces locally the server's folder
structure. In fact, Yahoo does not give POP access for free accounts,
but it does give IMAP (although they claim it's "unsupported" for
desktop clients; they say it's "just for phones and tablets"). Although
I find their IMAP behaves slightly oddly.


In advising the OP to download their Yahoo messages and then do the
filtering in SeaMonkey, have you tried it??

I, sort of, recall reading somewhere here-abouts, that filters are not
working, for some reason, and, by-the-by, last night I set up two new
filters on my Usenet account but, tonight, they are not doing anything.



I can't think of how filters could even work in News accounts only Mail.
   e.g, you can't "delete" posts or mark them "Junk" like you can with
messages so a filter couldn't do that either.

Can you give some examples?

GW
Hmmm . . . I use filters on News groups, and they work just fine. Note 
that my setting is View>Threads>Threads With Unread, so for postings 
that I find to be abusive, my filter (based on the sender) is set to 
"Mark As Read" and they don't show up. And yes, Delete is another choice 
and it works when tested, although I don't actually use it.


True, some Mail settings like Junk aren't available for News groups.

HTH.

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[Geoff Welsh]

Daniel wrote:

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 05/10/2013 19:19, Ray Davison told the world:

ss wrote:

Hello all, My question today is, how can I get SM 2.21 go to my
sub-folders to collect mail on web based accounts? e.g. in yahoo I have
eight message filters which do not stay in the in-box, they go directly
to their respective folders at yahoo.com. What are the settings for
having sm check the filters to import the messages or is there a
setting
change at yahoo.com I need to make?


I assume you want to bring mail from Yahoo to SM ao that it resides on
your HDD. If so, just get rid of the filters in Yahoo, create a Yahoo
account in SM, and let SM filter them.


Or else use IMAP, which reproduces locally the server's folder
structure. In fact, Yahoo does not give POP access for free accounts,
but it does give IMAP (although they claim it's "unsupported" for
desktop clients; they say it's "just for phones and tablets"). Although
I find their IMAP behaves slightly oddly.


In advising the OP to download their Yahoo messages and then do the
filtering in SeaMonkey, have you tried it??

I, sort of, recall reading somewhere here-abouts, that filters are not
working, for some reason, and, by-the-by, last night I set up two new
filters on my Usenet account but, tonight, they are not doing anything.



I can't think of how filters could even work in News accounts only Mail. 
  e.g, you can't "delete" posts or mark them "Junk" like you can with 
messages so a filter couldn't do that either.


Can you give some examples?

GW
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Daniel wrote:

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 05/10/2013 19:19, Ray Davison told the world:

ss wrote:

Hello all, My question today is, how can I get SM 2.21 go to my
sub-folders to collect mail on web based accounts? e.g. in yahoo I have
eight message filters which do not stay in the in-box, they go directly
to their respective folders at yahoo.com. What are the settings for
having sm check the filters to import the messages or is there a
setting
change at yahoo.com I need to make?


I assume you want to bring mail from Yahoo to SM ao that it resides on
your HDD.  If so, just get rid of the filters in Yahoo, create a Yahoo
account in SM, and let SM filter them.


Or else use IMAP, which reproduces locally the server's folder
structure. In fact, Yahoo does not give POP access for free accounts,
but it does give IMAP (although they claim it's "unsupported" for
desktop clients; they say it's "just for phones and tablets"). Although
I find their IMAP behaves slightly oddly.


In advising the OP to download their Yahoo messages and then do the
filtering in SeaMonkey, have you tried it??

I, sort of, recall reading somewhere here-abouts, that filters are not
working, for some reason, and, by-the-by, last night I set up two new
filters on my Usenet account but, tonight, they are not doing anything.


I've used a wide variety of filters on POP3 mail on a dozen or so 
different accounts going all the way back to Netscape 4.7, and they have 
always worked as expected. Most recently, I've used them on a gmail 
account, once I figured out how to tell Google to allow POP mail 
downloads, and they worked fine. So if the OP can retrieve Yahoo mail 
this way, I expect filters to work as well.


However, I haven't tried filters with newsgroups, so I can't speak 
directly to your experience.


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[Daniel]

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 05/10/2013 19:19, Ray Davison told the world:

ss wrote:

Hello all, My question today is, how can I get SM 2.21 go to my
sub-folders to collect mail on web based accounts? e.g. in yahoo I have
eight message filters which do not stay in the in-box, they go directly
to their respective folders at yahoo.com. What are the settings for
having sm check the filters to import the messages or is there a setting
change at yahoo.com I need to make?


I assume you want to bring mail from Yahoo to SM ao that it resides on
your HDD.  If so, just get rid of the filters in Yahoo, create a Yahoo
account in SM, and let SM filter them.


Or else use IMAP, which reproduces locally the server's folder
structure. In fact, Yahoo does not give POP access for free accounts,
but it does give IMAP (although they claim it's "unsupported" for
desktop clients; they say it's "just for phones and tablets"). Although
I find their IMAP behaves slightly oddly.


In advising the OP to download their Yahoo messages and then do the 
filtering in SeaMonkey, have you tried it??


I, sort of, recall reading somewhere here-abouts, that filters are not 
working, for some reason, and, by-the-by, last night I set up two new 
filters on my Usenet account but, tonight, they are not doing anything.


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Re: Message Filters In Web Based Accounts ???

[MCBastos]

Interviewed by CNN on 05/10/2013 19:19, Ray Davison told the world:
> ss wrote:
>> Hello all, My question today is, how can I get SM 2.21 go to my
>> sub-folders to collect mail on web based accounts? e.g. in yahoo I have
>> eight message filters which do not stay in the in-box, they go directly
>> to their respective folders at yahoo.com. What are the settings for
>> having sm check the filters to import the messages or is there a setting
>> change at yahoo.com I need to make?
> 
> I assume you want to bring mail from Yahoo to SM ao that it resides on 
> your HDD.  If so, just get rid of the filters in Yahoo, create a Yahoo 
> account in SM, and let SM filter them.

Or else use IMAP, which reproduces locally the server's folder
structure. In fact, Yahoo does not give POP access for free accounts,
but it does give IMAP (although they claim it's "unsupported" for
desktop clients; they say it's "just for phones and tablets"). Although
I find their IMAP behaves slightly oddly.

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Re: Message Filters In Web Based Accounts ???

[Ray Davison]

ss wrote:

Hello all, My question today is, how can I get SM 2.21 go to my
sub-folders to collect mail on web based accounts? e.g. in yahoo I have
eight message filters which do not stay in the in-box, they go directly
to their respective folders at yahoo.com. What are the settings for
having sm check the filters to import the messages or is there a setting
change at yahoo.com I need to make?


I assume you want to bring mail from Yahoo to SM ao that it resides on 
your HDD.  If so, just get rid of the filters in Yahoo, create a Yahoo 
account in SM, and let SM filter them.


Ray


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Message Filters In Web Based Accounts ???

[ss]

Hello all, My question today is, how can I get SM 2.21 go to my 
sub-folders to collect mail on web based accounts? e.g. in yahoo I have 
eight message filters which do not stay in the in-box, they go directly 
to their respective folders at yahoo.com. What are the settings for 
having sm check the filters to import the messages or is there a setting 
change at yahoo.com I need to make?


TIA -bo1953
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Re: Question about newsgroup message filters

[Hartmut Figge]

chicagofan:

>P.S. - Keep a watch out for another plea for me so far I can't find the 
>right files.  I'm new to Win 7 and 
>absolutely detest it!!!   I can't find *anything* any more.  I want my XP 
>back!!!   ;) I found a profile file 8 
>levels deep... but it's not what I am looking for.   :(

Your profile can be found by about:support and clicking on 'Open
Directory' for 'Profile Directory'. Once you have discovered your
profile you should be able to find the subdirectory News.

Hartmut
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Re: Question about newsgroup message filters

[chicagofan]

chicagofan wrote:

Hartmut Figge wrote:

chicagofan:

Is there a file identified as the filters, or do you have to copy everything 
that is in .dat?

Each newsgroup has its own filters in a file with the suffix dat. For
example the filters for de.test are contained in the file de.test.dat.


Hartmut


Thanks so much, Hartmut!   I have one newsgroup that can't be easily read without a 100 or so filters, and it's so 
time consuming to rebuild that file, every time something messes up the news server message numbering system.   :)

bj


P.S. - Keep a watch out for another plea for me so far I can't find the right files.  I'm new to Win 7 and 
absolutely detest it!!!   I can't find *anything* any more.  I want my XP back!!!   ;) I found a profile file 8 
levels deep... but it's not what I am looking for.   :(

bj
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Re: Question about newsgroup message filters

[chicagofan]

Hartmut Figge wrote:

chicagofan:

Is there a file identified as the filters, or do you have to copy everything 
that is in .dat?

Each newsgroup has its own filters in a file with the suffix dat. For
example the filters for de.test are contained in the file de.test.dat.


Hartmut


Thanks so much, Hartmut!   I have one newsgroup that can't be easily read without a 100 or so filters, and it's so time 
consuming to rebuild that file, every time something messes up the news server message numbering system.   :)

bj
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Re: Question about newsgroup message filters

[Hartmut Figge]

chicagofan:

>Is there a file identified as the filters, or do you have to copy everything 
>that is in .dat?

Each newsgroup has its own filters in a file with the suffix dat. For
example the filters for de.test are contained in the file de.test.dat.


Hartmut
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Re: Question about newsgroup message filters

[chicagofan]

Hartmut Figge wrote:

chicagofan:

I am still using SM 2.8.  Is there a file for message *filters* by newsgroup, 
that could be copied to another news server?

If so, could someone tell me it's location and the process?  If I knew the 
locations, would it just be a cut and paste
operation?:)   TIA.

[Profile]/News/[Newsserver]/[Newsgroup].dat

Since you are on Win you may have to replace '/' with '\'. ;)

Hartmut


Is there a file identified as the filters, or do you have to copy everything 
that is in .dat?
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Re: Question about newsgroup message filters

[Hartmut Figge]

chicagofan:
>I am still using SM 2.8.  Is there a file for message *filters* by newsgroup, 
>that could be copied to another news server?
>
>If so, could someone tell me it's location and the process?  If I knew the 
>locations, would it just be a cut and paste 
>operation?:)   TIA.

[Profile]/News/[Newsserver]/[Newsgroup].dat

Since you are on Win you may have to replace '/' with '\'. ;)

Hartmut
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Question about newsgroup message filters

[chicagofan]

I am still using SM 2.8.  Is there a file for message *filters* by newsgroup, 
that could be copied to another news server?

If so, could someone tell me it's location and the process?  If I knew the locations, would it just be a cut and paste 
operation?:)   TIA.

bj
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Re: Message filters are disabled

[denewton]

Marisa Ciceran a écrit :

Bertrand,

Are you saying that it is a "big bug" that is not resolved but is still
being worked on? I am not a teckie, unfortunately, but can I be of any
help?  I've upgraded to SM 2.10, and the email messages filters problem
continues.

Yes, I know...


My main computer is a Windows XP Professional SP3 updated to a month
ago. My secondary unit is an laptop with Windows 7 Home Premium - a
disastrous program which crashed several times, so it now has minimal
programs installed, and rarely use it. I have activated the SM
synchronizer feature on the two computers and not bothered to activate
any message filters on the laptop Win7 installation. Rather, I've
checked that emails downloaded to the laptop remain on the server for
the final download to the desktop. Could there be a clue in what I have
just described?

I don't have W7 : XP SP3 home only


Thanks for your reply.

Marisa

denewton wrote:

Marisa Ciceran a écrit :

Every time I start SeaMonkey 2.9.1 and go to mail, message filters are
randomly disabled. This problem began with 2.8.x when the results werea
bit different. Before, instead of disabling the message filters, the
messages related to various different filters would all be redirected to
a single unrelated folder or else were sent to the junk folder. Both of
these other conditions that I mentioned no longer occur since 2.9.1, but
the outright disabling of the filters persists and is very bothersome.

So far, I have not detected no particular pattern. At times it is only
one or two filters that are affected, at other times many.

The discussion of this problem was dropped in this forum. Is there is a
solution or workaround that I missed? I would really appreciate clues on
a resolution.

Thanks,

Marisa

Hello
this bug is describe in two bug in bugzilla : bug 618527 and 594756.
That is till the 2.0.7 version and that is on the actual version.
Before that was from times to times, in 2.9.1 that is each times...
the only solution is to get on filtres and select all and execute all.
That is a big bug because we can't dispatch the mails on their folders
automaticly.
Sinserly
Bertrand
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My reply don't give you anything. I can't.
Bertrand

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Re: Message filters are disabled

[Marisa Ciceran]

Bertrand,

Are you saying that it is a "big bug" that is not resolved but is still 
being worked on? I am not a teckie, unfortunately, but can I be of any 
help?  I've upgraded to SM 2.10, and the email messages filters problem 
continues.


My main computer is a Windows XP Professional SP3 updated to a month 
ago. My secondary unit is an laptop with Windows 7 Home Premium - a 
disastrous program which crashed several times, so it now has minimal 
programs installed, and rarely use it. I have activated the SM 
synchronizer feature on the two computers and not bothered to activate 
any message filters on the laptop Win7 installation. Rather, I've 
checked that emails downloaded to the laptop remain on the server for 
the final download to the desktop. Could there be a clue in what I have 
just described?


Thanks for your reply.

Marisa

denewton wrote:

Marisa Ciceran a écrit :

Every time I start SeaMonkey 2.9.1 and go to mail, message filters are
randomly disabled. This problem began with 2.8.x when the results werea
bit different. Before, instead of disabling the message filters, the
messages related to various different filters would all be redirected to
a single unrelated folder or else were sent to the junk folder. Both of
these other conditions that I mentioned no longer occur since 2.9.1, but
the outright disabling of the filters persists and is very bothersome.

So far, I have not detected no particular pattern. At times it is only
one or two filters that are affected, at other times many.

The discussion of this problem was dropped in this forum. Is there is a
solution or workaround that I missed? I would really appreciate clues on
a resolution.

Thanks,

Marisa

Hello
this bug is describe in two bug in bugzilla : bug 618527 and 594756.
That is till the 2.0.7 version and that is on the actual version.
Before that was from times to times, in 2.9.1 that is each times...
the only solution is to get on filtres and select all and execute all.
That is a big bug because we can't dispatch the mails on their folders
automaticly.
Sinserly
Bertrand
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Re: Message filters are disabled

[denewton]

Marisa Ciceran a écrit :

Every time I start SeaMonkey 2.9.1 and go to mail, message filters are
randomly disabled. This problem began with 2.8.x when the results were a
bit different. Before, instead of disabling the message filters, the
messages related to various different filters would all be redirected to
a single unrelated folder or else were sent to the junk folder. Both of
these other conditions that I mentioned no longer occur since 2.9.1, but
the outright disabling of the filters persists and is very bothersome.

So far, I have not detected no particular pattern. At times it is only
one or two filters that are affected, at other times many.

The discussion of this problem was dropped in this forum. Is there is a
solution or workaround that I missed? I would really appreciate clues on
a resolution.

Thanks,

Marisa

Hello
this bug is describe in two bug in bugzilla : bug 618527 and 594756. 
That is till the 2.0.7 version and that is on the actual version. Before 
that was from times to times, in 2.9.1 that is each times...

the only solution is to get on filtres and select all and execute all.
That is a big bug because we can't dispatch the mails on their folders 
automaticly.

Sinserly
Bertrand
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Re: Message filters are disabled

[flyguy]

On 5/24/2012 7:46 AM, Marisa Ciceran wrote:

Every time I start SeaMonkey 2.9.1 and go to mail, message filters are
randomly disabled. This problem began with 2.8.x when the results were a
bit different. Before, instead of disabling the message filters, the
messages related to various different filters would all be redirected to
a single unrelated folder or else were sent to the junk folder. Both of
these other conditions that I mentioned no longer occur since 2.9.1, but
the outright disabling of the filters persists and is very bothersome.

So far, I have not detected no particular pattern. At times it is only
one or two filters that are affected, at other times many.

The discussion of this problem was dropped in this forum. Is there is a
solution or workaround that I missed? I would really appreciate clues on
a resolution.


Can't help, but to say I had the filter problem in 2.9 on two computers, 
but no filter problem on either in 2.9.1.


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Message filters are disabled

[Marisa Ciceran]

Every time I start SeaMonkey 2.9.1 and go to mail, message filters are 
randomly disabled. This problem began with 2.8.x when the results were a 
bit different. Before, instead of disabling the message filters, the 
messages related to various different filters would all be redirected to 
a single unrelated folder or else were sent to the junk folder. Both of 
these other conditions that I mentioned no longer occur since 2.9.1, but 
the outright disabling of the filters persists and is very bothersome.


So far, I have not detected no particular pattern. At times it is only 
one or two filters that are affected, at other times many.


The discussion of this problem was dropped in this forum. Is there is a 
solution or workaround that I missed? I would really appreciate clues on 
a resolution.


Thanks,

Marisa
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Re: Message FIlters

[Bill Davidsen]

Rob Steinmetz wrote:

Since I updated to 2.2 My filters are not always automatically sorting
incoming email. They sort some but not most of the messages. If I run
the filters manually they work as expected.

They are all set to "Checking Mail or Manually Run".


I have noticed of late that my filters suddenly "uncheck themselves" when I 
check on them. I am taking notes on this but don't have enough data to reproduce 
so I haven't filed a bug report. Just every once in a while I will find that I 
see a post in INBOX which belongs in a subfolder and didn't get there.


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Message FIlters

[Rob Steinmetz]

Since I updated to 2.2 My filters are not always automatically sorting 
incoming email. They sort some but not most of the messages. If I run 
the filters manually they work as expected.


They are all set to "Checking Mail or Manually Run".
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[info] Programme to sort message filters

[CriCri]

For mail clients:  SeaMonkey, Mozilla and ThunderBird

The built-in filter editor allows you to move complete filters up or
down in order, but not to sort the conditions and their values which
make up each filter.
After creating and adding many criteria to a filter, it becomes
difficult to follow all its conditions, which are usually all mixed up
(unless you have always carefully added each new one in the right
place... !).

'mfiltsort.exe' (for Windows [1]) sorts the conditions which constitute
each filter: first by the elements used, then by the conditions applied
to them, then by the values compared.
(For example, in one filter some 'element' - 'condition' - value'
triplets could be
"body" - "contains" - "garbage" OR "subject" - "is" - "spam")

Firstly all the 'elements' (like "body" or "subject") are grouped
together, then all the 'conditions' (like "contains" or "is") for each
of those 'elements' are grouped in order, then all the 'values' (like
"garbage" or "spam") for each of those 'conditions' are sorted.
So now when you look at your filters, it is easy to see exactly what
criteria each one uses.

Note: it works directly on each filter file 'msgFilterRules.dat' outside
the client (which must not be running). Just select the file for any
mail account you want: nothing else to do...  It starts by creating a
backup then rewrites the file, sorted.

You can download the program (with a French or English interface -
their operation is exactly the same) from my site
'http://www.le-maquis.net' -> 'Programmes' -> 'Utilitaires bitwyse'
It is freeware with no installation (doesn't create any system files or
write to the registry). Requires Visual C runtime DLL's (v.6 or above).

Regards

Note: please send any feedback (bug reports...) - using the contact form
on the 'le-maquis.net' site.


[1] the version available uses Windows system functions (like the file
selector, message box etc): if anyone wants to port it to another
platform I will supply the source (in C++) - it should be easy.

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Re: Message Filters

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

stan wrote:

> I have several Message filters which do work fine. However, there is
> one which keeps persistently disabling itself every time I do exit
> the SeaMonkey 2.0.8.
> 
> Any idea? why?

Perhaps .. if you were to describe the filter in detail.  Email or news?

And what do you mean by "disabling" itself?  Do you have to go back into
the filter rules and edit it or remove/readd it?

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Message Filters

[stan]

I have several Message filters which do work fine.
However, there is one which keeps persistently disabling itself every 
time I do exit the SeaMonkey 2.0.8.


Any idea? why?

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Message filters stop working after 2.0.5 auto-upgrade in windows

[vluban]

Subj.
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Re: Message filters and Seamonkey 2 -- Solved

[Frank J. Nagy]

Frank J. Nagy wrote:
> I have just upgraded another Seamonkey 1.1.8 to 2.0.4 (this time under
> Mac OS X 10.4) and again had it fail to import any of my (extensive list)
> of message filters.
> 
> Is there any way to get these into Seamonkey 2?  I do have the
> Message Filter Import/Export extension installed in SM 1.1.8 and
> have used it in the past to move my filters between my work
> and home systems but said extension does not support SM 2 (it
> will not install) and the Tools->Import... will not import from
> a file but only from another mail client (in my case only Eudora
> shows up but I never installed or used).
> 
> This issue is holding up moving my standard SM that I use daily
> from 1.1.8 to 2.0.4 so I am really looking for help/pointers to
> help.
> 

Fixed by copying the file msgFilterRules.dat from the particular
IMAP mail account folder under 1.1.8 to the folder under 2.0.4
and I now have my message filters working again.


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Message filters and Seamonkey 2

[Frank J. Nagy]

I have just upgraded another Seamonkey 1.1.8 to 2.0.4 (this time under
Mac OS X 10.4) and again had it fail to import any of my (extensive list)
of message filters.

Is there any way to get these into Seamonkey 2?  I do have the
Message Filter Import/Export extension installed in SM 1.1.8 and
have used it in the past to move my filters between my work
and home systems but said extension does not support SM 2 (it
will not install) and the Tools->Import... will not import from
a file but only from another mail client (in my case only Eudora
shows up but I never installed or used).

This issue is holding up moving my standard SM that I use daily
from 1.1.8 to 2.0.4 so I am really looking for help/pointers to
help.

-- 
= Dr. Frank J. Nagy[Applied Scientist]
= Fermilab Computing Division/Central Services and Infrastructure
= Authentication, Directory and Messaging Services
= n...@fnal.gov (Alt: f.n...@sbcglobal.net)
= Web page: http://home.fnal.gov/~nagy/
= Feynman Computing FCC358   630-840-4935  FAX 840-6345
= USnail: Fermilab POB 500 MS/369 Batavia, IL 60510
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Re: Tools - Message filters Doesnot work

[chicagofan]

Ray_Net wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

I am under WindowsXP SP3 with SM2.0.2
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US;
rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100104 NOT Firefox/3.5 SeaMonkey/2.0.2


Thanks for all answers i received.
Finally i succed as follow:
  >  Applying filter when: "Checking Mail or Manually Run"
  >  "Match any of the following":
  >From ends with lion.org
  >From ends with Lion.org
  >From ends with lion.org>
  >From ends with Lion.org>
with all actions:
- Mark as read
- Ignore thread
- Ignore subthread
- Delete



That's wonderful!  I am so glad you succeeded!  I was worried that you 
may have given up.

bj
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Re: Tools - Message filters Doesnot work

[Ray_Net]

Ray_Net wrote:

I am under WindowsXP SP3 with SM2.0.2
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US;
rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100104 NOT Firefox/3.5 SeaMonkey/2.0.2

For a newsgroup, i have positionned to "Mark As Read"
Applying filter when: "Checking Mail or Manually Run"
"Match any of the following":
 From contains j...@lion.org
 From contains j...@lion.org
 From contains jmB <"jmB"@lion.org>
 From contains jmB <"jmB"@Lion.org>

And the posts are still marked as "Not Read"

Any idea to solve this issue ?


Thanks for all answers i received.
Finally i succed as follow:
> Applying filter when: "Checking Mail or Manually Run"
> "Match any of the following":
>  From ends with lion.org
>  From ends with Lion.org
>  From ends with lion.org>
>  From ends with Lion.org>
with all actions:
- Mark as read
- Ignore thread
- Ignore subthread
- Delete
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Re: Tools - Message filters Doesnot work

[Philip Chee]

On Mon, 25 Jan 2010 22:44:46 +0100, Leonidas Jones wrote:

> I'll never be able to go with that. Too many tho0ughts of special 
> effects, it just doesn't compute.  Firefox, FF it just makes more sense.

To me the FF are either the Famous Five or the Fantastic Four, not some
Red Panda. I mean how many super villains has Firefox fought recently?

Phil

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Re: Tools - Message filters Doesnot work

[Daniel]

Phillip Jones wrote:

NoOp wrote:

On 01/24/2010 09:12 PM, Leonidas Jones wrote:

NoOp wrote:

On 01/24/2010 05:47 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:
...

/snip/

Firefox = Fx
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/releases/1.5.html

8. How do I capitalize Firefox? How do I abbreviate it?

Only the first letter is capitalized (so it's Firefox, not FireFox.)
The
preferred abbreviation is "Fx" or "fx".



I'll never be able to go with that. Too many tho0ughts of special
effects, it just doesn't compute. Firefox, FF it just makes more sense.

Lee


Yeah. I agree. I only knew of the Fx info as there was a bit of a heated
discussion over on one of the linux lists awhile back about this.




You pronounce all three as though they are two words so its logical to
abbreviate using first letter of each part.

Fx could easily mean Fix, or Fax, or Fox. Plus there use to be a piece
of software that That part of the name used FX on the end. I think I'll
continue what everyone thinks is correct FF.



I concur, Phillip.how many times have you seen movie "special 
effects" abbreviated as SFX, so by talking about Fx, we are talking 
about "effects" aren't we??


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Re: Tools - Message filters Doesnot work

[Phillip Jones]

NoOp wrote:

On 01/24/2010 09:12 PM, Leonidas Jones wrote:

NoOp wrote:

On 01/24/2010 05:47 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:
...

/snip/

Firefox = Fx
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/releases/1.5.html

8. How do I capitalize Firefox? How do I abbreviate it?

Only the first letter is capitalized (so it's Firefox, not FireFox.) The
preferred abbreviation is "Fx" or "fx".



I'll never be able to go with that. Too many tho0ughts of special
effects, it just doesn't compute.  Firefox, FF it just makes more sense.

Lee


Yeah. I agree. I only knew of the Fx info as there was a bit of a heated
discussion over on one of the linux lists awhile back about this.




You pronounce all three as though they are two words so its logical to 
abbreviate using first letter of each part.


Fx could easily mean Fix, or Fax, or Fox. Plus there use to be a piece 
of software that That part of the name used FX on the end. I think I'll 
continue what everyone  thinks is correct FF.


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Re: Tools - Message filters Doesnot work

[Leonidas Jones]

NoOp wrote:

On 01/24/2010 09:12 PM, Leonidas Jones wrote:

NoOp wrote:

On 01/24/2010 05:47 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:
...

/snip/

/snip/


I'll never be able to go with that. Too many tho0ughts of special
effects, it just doesn't compute.  Firefox, FF it just makes more sense.

Lee


Yeah. I agree. I only knew of the Fx info as there was a bit of a heated
discussion over on one of the linux lists awhile back about this.




It doesn't faze me, as long as I know what application is being referred 
to, all is fine with me.  I think using FF as an abreviation is pretty 
clear, whatever the company line is.


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Re: Tools - Message filters Doesnot work

[NoOp]

On 01/24/2010 09:12 PM, Leonidas Jones wrote:
> NoOp wrote:
>> On 01/24/2010 05:47 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:
>> ...
> /snip/
>> Firefox = Fx
>> http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/releases/1.5.html
>> 
>> 8. How do I capitalize Firefox? How do I abbreviate it?
>>
>> Only the first letter is capitalized (so it's Firefox, not FireFox.) The
>> preferred abbreviation is "Fx" or "fx".
>> 
> 
> I'll never be able to go with that. Too many tho0ughts of special 
> effects, it just doesn't compute.  Firefox, FF it just makes more sense.
> 
> Lee

Yeah. I agree. I only knew of the Fx info as there was a bit of a heated
discussion over on one of the linux lists awhile back about this.


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Re: Tools - Message filters Doesnot work

[Phillip Jones]

Leonidas Jones wrote:

NoOp wrote:

On 01/24/2010 05:47 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:
...

/snip/

Firefox = Fx
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/releases/1.5.html

8. How do I capitalize Firefox? How do I abbreviate it?

Only the first letter is capitalized (so it's Firefox, not FireFox.) The
preferred abbreviation is "Fx" or "fx".



I'll never be able to go with that. Too many tho0ughts of special
effects, it just doesn't compute.  Firefox, FF it just makes more sense.

Lee

Way I've always seen it abbreviated. Is  FF

They are all Pronounced as Two words,
Fire-Fox
Sea-Monkey
Thunder-Bird
So I've always abbreviated them as: SM, FF, TB. And If you look on 
Google You  find a lot more people Abbreviating it FF, SM, and TB. I the 
first time I've ever seen a reference to Fx is in NoOP's post above.



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Re: Tools - Message filters Doesnot work

[Bernard Mercier]

Phillip Jones vient de nous annoncer :
> Bernard Mercier wrote:
>> Phillip Jones a utilisé son clavier pour écrire :
>>> chicagofan wrote:
>>>> Mark Hansen wrote:
>>>>> On 1/23/2010 5:27 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:
>>>>>> Mark Hansen wrote:
>>>>>>> That is not true. I use message filters on news groups and do not
>>>>>>> have them set for off-line use.
>>>>>> Unless things have improved in SM 2.0 in previous versions filters were
>>>>>> useless on newsgroups (won't even set post to be marked as read.) And at
>>>>>> one time when people asked about it  we were told that filters don't
>>>>>> work in News.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That is not true. I'm using SM 1.1.16 at the moment, but I've been using
>>>>> filters for News for years.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't know what he was told or misunderstood, but I'm using 2.02 now,
>>>> and I've never had any version of SM mail or newsgroup filters to fail
>>>> for me.
>>>>
>>>> SM lacked the ability to filter cross-postings for a long awhile, but we
>>>> even have that feature now.
>>>> There is something lacking in communication here it seems.
>>>> bj 
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I never could get filtering working in SM 1.1.8. I kept trying as I
>>> upgraded from version to version. I realize you can only set to mark as
>>> read (if you don't download for reading later). Never did get working. I
>>> haven't tried in 2.0 SM as I haven't had the need.
>> SM 1.1.8?
>>
> SM = SeaMonkey
> FF = FireFox
> TB = ThunderBird

> Should have been 1.1.18  Sorry
I did guess 1.1.18 already. ;-)

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Re: Tools - Message filters Doesnot work

[Hartmut Figge]

Ray_Net:

[Filter not working]
>Any idea to solve this issue ?

Post to mozilla.test so that we have an example to play with.

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Re: Tools - Message filters Doesnot work

[Leonidas Jones]

NoOp wrote:

On 01/24/2010 05:47 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:
...

/snip/

Firefox = Fx
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/releases/1.5.html

8. How do I capitalize Firefox? How do I abbreviate it?

Only the first letter is capitalized (so it's Firefox, not FireFox.) The
preferred abbreviation is "Fx" or "fx".



I'll never be able to go with that. Too many tho0ughts of special 
effects, it just doesn't compute.  Firefox, FF it just makes more sense.


Lee
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Re: Tools - Message filters Doesnot work

[NoOp]

On 01/24/2010 05:47 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:
...
>>> I never could get filtering working in SM 1.1.8. I kept trying as I
>>> upgraded from version to version. I realize you can only set to mark as
>>> read (if you don't download for reading later). Never did get working. I
>>> haven't tried in 2.0 SM as I haven't had the need.
>> SM 1.1.8?
>>
> SM = SeaMonkey
> FF = FireFox
> TB = ThunderBird
> 
> Should have been 1.1.18  Sorry

Firefox = Fx
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/releases/1.5.html

8. How do I capitalize Firefox? How do I abbreviate it?

Only the first letter is capitalized (so it's Firefox, not FireFox.) The
preferred abbreviation is "Fx" or "fx".

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Re: Tools - Message filters Doesnot work

[chicagofan]

Mark Hansen wrote:

On 1/24/2010 4:29 PM, chicagofan wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

I am under WindowsXP SP3 with SM2.0.2
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US;
rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100104 NOT Firefox/3.5 SeaMonkey/2.0.2

For a newsgroup, i have positionned to "Mark As Read"
Applying filter when: "Checking Mail or Manually Run"
"Match any of the following":
   From contains j...@lion.org
   From contains j...@lion.org
   From contains jmB<"jmB"@lion.org>
 From contains jmB<"jmB"@Lion.org>

And the posts are still marked as "Not Read"

Any idea to solve this issue ?



I've just realized that I have never set a "Mark as Read" filter on an
individual, because I always just *delete* all messages from people
whose posts I do not wish to read.

I have now set a couple of tests on 2 people in different newsgroups to
"mark as read" their posts, to see how SM behaves.   Will come back when
I see the results.  [I have the log set to record the filters on one
group... the other group is too large.]

Any chance you would just give us the newsgroup in which this individual
posts, so that we could try the *exact* filters you are attempting?
bj



Why not create a filter on mozilla.test, then post there with anything you
want to test?



I wanted to test some *individuals* as he is trying to do, and I've just 
gotten the results, when reading that newsgroup a few minutes ago.   The 
individual's name used in one group posted 4 messages since I set up my 
filter to mark her messages read.


They did not show, because I have my groups set to show ONLY UNREAD.  So 
I switched to show "ALL", and there they were marked "READ"... just as 
my message filter log said they were.  :)


I thought that might help Ray communicate what is different for him.
bj


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Re: Tools - Message filters Doesnot work

[Mark Hansen]

On 1/24/2010 4:29 PM, chicagofan wrote:
> Ray_Net wrote:
>> I am under WindowsXP SP3 with SM2.0.2
>> Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US;
>> rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100104 NOT Firefox/3.5 SeaMonkey/2.0.2
>>
>> For a newsgroup, i have positionned to "Mark As Read"
>> Applying filter when: "Checking Mail or Manually Run"
>> "Match any of the following":
>>   From contains j...@lion.org
>>   From contains j...@lion.org
>>   From contains jmB<"jmB"@lion.org>
>>From contains jmB<"jmB"@Lion.org>
>>
>> And the posts are still marked as "Not Read"
>>
>> Any idea to solve this issue ?
> 
> 
> I've just realized that I have never set a "Mark as Read" filter on an 
> individual, because I always just *delete* all messages from people 
> whose posts I do not wish to read.
> 
> I have now set a couple of tests on 2 people in different newsgroups to 
> "mark as read" their posts, to see how SM behaves.   Will come back when 
> I see the results.  [I have the log set to record the filters on one 
> group... the other group is too large.]
> 
> Any chance you would just give us the newsgroup in which this individual 
> posts, so that we could try the *exact* filters you are attempting?
> bj
> 

Why not create a filter on mozilla.test, then post there with anything you
want to test?
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Re: Tools - Message filters Doesnot work

[Phillip Jones]

Bernard Mercier wrote:

Phillip Jones a utilisé son clavier pour écrire :

chicagofan wrote:

Mark Hansen wrote:

On 1/23/2010 5:27 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:

Mark Hansen wrote:

That is not true. I use message filters on news groups and do not
have them set for off-line use.

Unless things have improved in SM 2.0 in previous versions filters were
useless on newsgroups (won't even set post to be marked as read.) And at
one time when people asked about it  we were told that filters don't
work in News.



That is not true. I'm using SM 1.1.16 at the moment, but I've been using
filters for News for years.



I don't know what he was told or misunderstood, but I'm using 2.02 now,
and I've never had any version of SM mail or newsgroup filters to fail
for me.

SM lacked the ability to filter cross-postings for a long awhile, but we
even have that feature now.
There is something lacking in communication here it seems.
bj  



I never could get filtering working in SM 1.1.8. I kept trying as I
upgraded from version to version. I realize you can only set to mark as
read (if you don't download for reading later). Never did get working. I
haven't tried in 2.0 SM as I haven't had the need.

SM 1.1.8?


SM = SeaMonkey
FF = FireFox
TB = ThunderBird

Should have been 1.1.18  Sorry
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Re: Tools - Message filters Doesnot work

[chicagofan]

Ray_Net wrote:

I am under WindowsXP SP3 with SM2.0.2
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US;
rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100104 NOT Firefox/3.5 SeaMonkey/2.0.2

For a newsgroup, i have positionned to "Mark As Read"
Applying filter when: "Checking Mail or Manually Run"
"Match any of the following":
  From contains j...@lion.org
  From contains j...@lion.org
  From contains jmB<"jmB"@lion.org>
   From contains jmB<"jmB"@Lion.org>

And the posts are still marked as "Not Read"

Any idea to solve this issue ?



I've just realized that I have never set a "Mark as Read" filter on an 
individual, because I always just *delete* all messages from people 
whose posts I do not wish to read.


I have now set a couple of tests on 2 people in different newsgroups to 
"mark as read" their posts, to see how SM behaves.   Will come back when 
I see the results.  [I have the log set to record the filters on one 
group... the other group is too large.]


Any chance you would just give us the newsgroup in which this individual 
posts, so that we could try the *exact* filters you are attempting?

bj








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