Spell checker
Hello Tbbeta, This is not new but I would like to request that the spell checker considers semi-colon as part of a word for correction purposes. It easily mistyped with single quote on a UK keyboard. I have typographical suggestions set ON in SSCE. Hunspell is grayed out. Just for the record, Microsoft Word does this. Thanks. -- Best regards, Tony mailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.0.34.2 Current beta is 5.0.34.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Spell Checker: Hunspell
Hello TBBETA Members! Bring me up to date, a while ago TB made use of Hunspell beside their own option. I did install it, and as far as I can see it is still installed [Hunspell.DLL in TB directory] but TB does not use it - at least all options on its tab are greyed out. I only stumbled upon this because I find the German checker used [SSCE] deeply lacking in helpfulness, it doesn't know many words, has major trouble with word forms and seems to not know the basics of German morphology. In short: it has much too much false positives. Resultant question: Anything wrong with my Hunspell installation? Bonus: If any programming resources could be freed up by scrapping the German spell checker in favour of working on, say, Global View Modes - RITLabs, do it. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.0.12.12 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info upon request Das 11. Gebot: Du solltest vertrauen auf Deines Nachbarn Dummheit. [Aleks Papst] Current beta is 5.0.12.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
4.2.10.12 spell checker
Hello tbbeta, It seems the spell checking is, for me, totally useless. It does not spell and asks for a language - but how can that be done when there is no option for language. I tried altering the options which just revert to nothing selected and moderate fast - if I change this then i get an esception error! Spelling worked previously but now is a disaster - or is it only me? Best regards, Graham -- Graham Howe mailto:gh...@mcb.net ModelEngineering http://www.homepages.mcb.net/howe/ TheBat4.2.10.12 on WinXP SP3 Current beta is 4.2.10.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.2.10.12 spell checker
Hallo Graham, On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 15:56:34 +0100GMT (19-9-2009, 16:56 +0200, where I live), you wrote: G It seems the spell checking is, for me, totally useless. Can't confirm, works like a charm both with MicroEd and with HTML BTW You're not supposed to use HTML on this list, unless it's necessary for the topic. So consider yourself trouted. ;-) -- Groetjes, Roelof Why experiment on animals, when there are so many Windows users around http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.2.10.12 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 6 pop3 accounts, 1 imap account OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgp5ghMK2nu6L.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 4.2.10.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.2.10.12 spell checker
Graham schreef: It seems the spell checking is, for me, totally useless. ...snipped Spelling worked previously but now is a disaster - or is it only me? Can't confirm this. Next to SSCE I use Hunspell. With Hunspell I use English and Duch at the same time, which is great! -- Met vriendelijke groet, Henk M. de Bruijn Mozilla Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (20090812) on Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Home Premium Versie 6.0.6001 Service Pack 1 Build 6001 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q8200 @ 2.33GHz, 2333 MHz 64 bits Enigmail 0.96.0 OpenPGP message encryption and authentication signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature Current beta is 4.2.10.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.2.10.12 spell checker
Hello Roelof, you wrote and made these points on the subject of - 4.2.10.12 spell checker: mid:999457760.20090919172...@otten.tv Roelof Otten Can't confirm, works like a charm both with MicroEd and with HTML Roelof Otten BTW You're not supposed to use HTML on this list, unless it's Roelof Otten necessary for the topic. So consider yourself trouted. ;-) I have since fully closed tb and suddenly it all works again! Strange tho' - I leave TB up all the time and only close it to change betas - it seemed as though all reference to spell check, languages etc did not exist thus my query. Despite my trials, without closing, all the spelling options resulted in access violation or repeated requests for language but no way to get at a spell language. Anyway - thanks to your responses it prompted me to close tb and problem solved - This obsession with non-html use - I started life as a programmer back in 1966 so html is not something I promote when it comes to email and data transport but you know things have changed - even tb caters for html and bandwidth is not the issue it used to be - i receive 50 emails of spam daily and all are html but i live with - maybe tb should think this way too after all it is the information that matters and html does add a lot so time to re-think - nay you are probably older than me! Best regards, Graham -- Graham Howe mail mailto:gh...@mcb.net Using The Bat! 4.2.10.11 on windows version 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.2.10.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Spell Checker in HTML broken
Hi TBBETA It seems to me that in the recent 4.1.11.20 Spell Checker is broken in the HTML editor - with plain text editor it's ok. -- Best regards, Martin mailto:dagob...@yahoo.com TheBat! 4.1.11.20 Pro (no OTFE) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.1.11.20 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: French spell checker fails in MicroEd (4.1.11.6)
Maxim Masiutin wrote on 26/02/2009 at 20:26:38 +1100 subject 4.1.11.6 : The Bat! 4.1.11.6 is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb41116.rar French spell checker does not work in MicroEd . In Windows Editor it performs correctly. Confirmations? -- Sincerely Hendrik Oesterlin - email hendrikmail2...@yahoo.de TheBat! 4.1.11.6 - Regula Anti-Spam Plugin 2.2.7.0 Extended Macro Plugin 1.1.91.0 - Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 ___ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de Current beta is 4.1.11.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: French spell checker fails in MicroEd (4.1.11.6)
Bonjour Hendrik, Tuesday, March 17, 2009 at 10:36:09, you wrote : HO French spell checker does not work in MicroEd . In Windows Editor it HO performs correctly. HO Confirmations? With Microed, within this reply: - anticonstitutionnelement underscores with red - anticonstitutionnellement doesnt underscore. The longest word of french langage is correctly checked ! And others too. SSCE is used (I have not reinstalled Hunspell) -- Regards, Francis mailto:fran...@dhumes.fr Message handmade on TB! 4.1.11.6 on Windows XP 2600 AntispamSniper for TB! 3.2.0.1 Current beta is 4.1.11.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: French spell checker fails in MicroEd (4.1.11.6)
Hello Hendrik, French spell checker does not work in MicroEd . In Windows Editor it performs correctly. It may not be a problem with the French spell checker but with the engine itself. This morning I noticed a problem with Spanish, it wasn't automatically checking and didn't mark any word as misspelled. I forgot to try with Windows editor, but a re-start of TB cured the problem. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.1.11.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 See some of my photos at http://www.Rancho-K.com Current beta is 4.1.11.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: French spell checker fails in MicroEd (4.1.11.6)
Hello MAU, French spell checker does not work in MicroEd . In Windows Editor it performs correctly. It may not be a problem with the French spell checker but with the engine itself. This morning I noticed a problem with Spanish, it wasn't automatically checking and didn't mark any word as misspelled. I forgot to try with Windows editor, but a re-start of TB cured the problem. I had the same problem again just a while ago and switching to Windows Editor and back to MicroEd started the engine. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.1.11.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 See some of my photos at http://www.Rancho-K.com Current beta is 4.1.11.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
4.0.34.15: Can't change Spell Checker language from status bar.
Hello all, Although the language is displayed correctly in the status bar, it can't be changed by clicking on it. No options are displayed when clicking. Selection from menu Spell Checker - Languages works fine and the selection is correctly displayed in status bar. Selection from status bar worked/works fine in 4.0.34.13. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7261 -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.34.15 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.0.34.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.34.15: Can't change Spell Checker language from status bar.
Hello all, Sunday, October 19, 2008, MAU wrote: Although the language is displayed correctly in the status bar, it can't be changed by clicking on it. No options are displayed when clicking. Selection from menu Spell Checker - Languages works fine and the selection is correctly displayed in status bar. Selection from status bar worked/works fine in 4.0.34.13. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7261 confirmed, seems new statusbar is not finished yet, tooltips are broken too reported in https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7262 -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.0.34.13 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.0.1.2 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 4 GB RAM Current beta is 4.0.34.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.34.15: Can't change Spell Checker language from status bar.
Hello Marek, seems new statusbar is not finished yet, tooltips are broken too reported in https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7262 Confirmed. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.34.15 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.0.34.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Spell Checker
Guten Tag The Bat! Beta, Files for build-in Spellchecker are now installed and stored in %APPDATA% instead of in %APPDIR% - is it possible to change this for Hunspell too? -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.0.20 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 4.0.18.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Spell Checker Failed
March 24, 2008 In this version, the spell check does not work. Rolling back. I want to stress this, the spell checker must work. It's mission critical. Jerry -- Ethan J. Mings Oakville, Ontario Canada Write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Running: The Bat! Version:4.0.18.5 Operating Systems: Windows XP 5 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.18.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spell Checker Failed
Hello Ethan, Monday, March 24, 2008, 11:34:46 AM, you wrote: EJM In this version, the spell check does not work. Rolling back. Where exactly does it not work? In MicroEd it does! -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! Version 4.0.18.5 MyMacros 1.11a zOmbie's Macros Version 0.7 Windows 2000 Professional/5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 (0 days 2:32:50) on Uno AMD Duron Current beta is 4.0.18.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Spell Checker Failed
Hello Mark, Monday, March 24, 2008, 6:57:35 AM, you wrote: Where exactly does it not work? In MicroEd it does! Failed in Micro Editor version. This only started with latest release .5 -- Best regards, Ethanmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 4.0.18.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spell Checker Failed
Hello all, Monday, March 24, 2008, Ethan J. Mings wrote: In this version, the spell check does not work. Rolling back. I want to stress this, the spell checker must work. It's mission critical. I am using SSCE dictionaries without problem in 4.0.18.5, what engine do You use? -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.0.18.5 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, NOD32 Antivirus plugin and AntispamSniper v 2.7.1.7 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 1 GB RAM Current beta is 4.0.18.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spell Checker Failed
Hello Ethan and Marek, Monday, March 24, 2008, 1:11:17 PM, among other things, you wrote: Where exactly does it not work? In MicroEd it does! EJM Failed in Micro Editor version. EJM This only started with latest release .5 The biggest problem I have is that the userDic.tlx dictionary is only accessed if American English is used. If British English is used, any words added do not go into the userDic.tlx but go into the main sscebr.tlx dictionary, and these additions sometimes get lost when a new TB version is installed. I know this because I copied everything from UserDic into sscebr when using 4.0.18.3 and used this arrangement successfully. The copied words have disappeared in 4.18.5. -- Best regards, Roger :flag-southafrica: The Bat! v4.0.18.5 POP3 with AntiSpamSniper 2.7.1.7, on Windows XP, version 5 1, build 2600 and Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.18.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
4.0.14.9: Spell checker stopped doing its job
Hello all, I have not had any issues with spell checker for some time but, a while ago, I was writing mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], a reply to Marek, when I noticed that no typos where being underlined in red (I normally use 'Automatic checking'). I only use CSAPI Spanish and British English and SSCE American English. When this happened I was using CSAPI BR. I switched to Spanish and AM, separately and simultaneously, and no change. No red underlines. I then tried 'Check entire text' (F4) and every single word was taken as misspelled but the 'Spell checking' dialog was not offering any suggestions. I also noticed no dictionaries were listed to 'Add words to'. As you can see in attached PNG, the Edit Dictionaries dialog did not list any dictionaries either. I had to re-start TB to get spell checker to work again. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14.9 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 attachment: Spell_stopped.png Current beta is 4.0.14.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.14.8 and Spell Checker
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008, at 17:55:03 [GMT +0200] (which was 16:55 where I live) Maxim Masiutin wrote: The Bat! 4.0.14.8 is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb40148.rar What's new in 4.0.14.8 since 4.0.14.7: [-] In CryptoAPI, Invalid signature dialog could truncate long error messages. [-] Some S/MIME certificates might cause AV when using Internal Implementation. [-] (#0006860) Messages could not be dragged from messages list to Editor window [-] (#0006595) Deleted Colour groups were kept in Folder Sets [-] (#0005998) It was not possible to use Reading Confirmation in mass mailing Up and running. In the Spell Checker menu under Languages I have choosen for Dutch and English (British). Under options I see three tabs: SSCE, CSAPI and Hunspell. The Hunspell tab is still greyed out. Under Dictionaries there are only SSCE and Hunspell Dictionaries. When a word is (under)marked by the Spell Checker and I right click on that word, a little menu pops up with: Suggestions Suggest more Ignore Add to dictionary Dictionary to add to (I can choose for SSCE and Hunspell Dutch and English (British) Options But as soon as I place the file SSCE5532.DLL back into the The Bat! folder I loose my spelling in the way that misspelled words are no longer marked as misspelled. Deleting the Registry keys for CSAPi does not have any influence on this. Because Hunspell is working, it is not a real stopper for me, but I wonder what is happening. -- Henk M. de Bruijn _ The Bat! E-Mail System version 4.0.14.8 Pro on Windows XP SP2 Antispamsniper for the Bat! 2.7.1.7 Hunspell English Dutch Spell Checker Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail! pgpM6gZkkswfS.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.14.3 Spell Checker issues
Dwight A Corrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wednesday, February 20, 2008, 10:20:42 AM, IanPollard wrote: I now have the SSCE spell checker working perfectly every time. what version of windows? Windows XP HE SP 2 Ian Current beta is 4.0.14.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.14.3 Spell Checker issues - resolved
Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello, SNIP Thanks to Ian and Miguel for his help and patience in this but for TB programmers there must be an error which occurs under rare occasions causes this, but is there yet to be found and resolved. Best regards, Graham Hi Graham Glad it is working for you also. I think the thanks should go to Miguel as I simply followed his guidance. There may be other things to resolve but we are getting there. Patience is needed as this is a self-help group more than anything and it is only through the experiences of others that we all learn. This forum is great for bouncing ideas/solutions around. Ian Current beta is 4.0.14.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
4.0.14.3 Spell Checker issues
Hi I now have the SSCE spell checker working perfectly every time. I have the editor set to plain text using the micro editor and all is now working just fine. Thank you all for the input. It has helped and I am now happy with a fully working system. Ian -- Ian Pollard LRPS Wooler//Northumberland//UK He is no fool, who gives what he cannot keep, to gain what he cannot lose Jim Eliot Current beta is 4.0.14.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.14.3 Spell Checker issues
On Wednesday, February 20, 2008, 10:20:42 AM, IanPollard wrote: I now have the SSCE spell checker working perfectly every time. what version of windows? -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.0.14.3 on Windows XP version 5,1 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 4.0.14.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
4.0.14.3 Spell Checker issues - resolved
Hello, Seeing Ian Pollards success I decided to follow his steps. Previously I had gone through the un install and reinstall process with no success. I had also been reluctant to use the restore as reports of errors with this have been reported but this was the only difference in approaches. So,this time I deleted the TB application data, un installed and reinstalled back up to 4.0.14.3 but and used restore. Result - SSCE fully working as far as I can see with or without Hunspell.dll The restore failed with no url manager list and addresses history Initial difference in application directory was the new install had no cache dir. Clearly somewhere along the line the application data must have got corrupted to affect the SSCE engine. Thanks to Ian and Miguel for his help and patience in this but for TB programmers there must be an error which occurs under rare occasions causes this, but is there yet to be found and resolved. Best regards, Graham -- Graham Howe mail mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using TheBat 4.0.14.3 on Windows 5 SP2 Current beta is 4.0.14.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.14.3 Spell Checker issues - resolved
Hello Graham, Result - SSCE fully working as far as I can see with or without Hunspell.dll Glad to hear that :) Clearly somewhere along the line the application data must have got corrupted to affect the SSCE engine. I can't see how application data, even corrupted one, could affect the SSCE engine. But I could be wrong. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.14.2 Spell Checker Issues
MAU [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: SNIP A screen capture of of Spell Checker Options dialog would also help. As I said in a reply to Graham in this same thread, no one can assure there is nothing wrong with the SSCE engine. But the fact that it works for most makes it more difficult to find why it fails for some, specially if developers can't reproduce the failure. BTW, when you say it doesn't work, does it mean that it doesn't mark any words as misspelled? It doesn't work means it just ignores some misspelled words i.e Thiought is ignored. I checked the word list in the dictionary and it is not there so there is no reason why it should not flag it. As far as the registry export is concerned, I don't see anywhere to attach either this file or the jpeg of my options for you, but I do have them both if you need to see them Ian Current beta is 4.0.14.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.14.2 Spell Checker Issues
Hello Henk, BTW, when you say it doesn't work, does it mean that it doesn't mark any words as misspelled? Hello Miguel, I hope you don't mind stepping into this thread but this is exactly what happens on my side when I upgrade from this version. As well for the rar as for the msi versions. Why should I mind? Not at all. I assume it happens no matter if you do 'Automatic checking ', 'Check entire text' or 'Check before send', correct? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14.2 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.14.2 Spell Checker Issues
Hello Ian, BTW, when you say it doesn't work, does it mean that it doesn't mark any words as misspelled? It doesn't work means it just ignores some misspelled words i.e Thiought is ignored. You see, this is why I think it is important to 'define' what 'doesn't work' means and why I insist on it. I have just replied to Henk M. de Bruijn and, in his case and pending further clarification, it seems that that 'text is not being checked at all' (like if there was no speller), while in your case you say that just ignores some words which, to me, means that the speller _is_ running but it 'makes some mistakes'. I checked the word list in the dictionary and it is not there so there is no reason why it should not flag it. As far as the registry export is concerned, I don't see anywhere to attach either this file or the jpeg of my options for you, but I do have them both if you need to see them Now, here is something I don't understand. If you followed my instructions, as you said yesterday, I assume you only have the American English (SSCE) which is installed by default are testing with it, confirm? If so, where and how did you check the word list in the dictionary? Because the Ssceam2.clx dictionary is not a text file, the Ssceam.tlx is is. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14.2 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 4.0.14.2 Spell Checker Issues
Hi MAU, On Tuesday, February 19, 2008 at 8:11:09 AM you wrote: M I have just replied to Henk M. de M Bruijn and, in his case and pending further clarification, it seems that M that 'text is not being checked at all' (like if there was no speller), I have this exact problem as well. Using tinySpell here. -- Regards, Maggie We all believe in something greater than ourselves, even if it's just the blind forces of chance. Running Windows XP, 5, and emailing with The Bat! 4.0.14.2 Current beta is 4.0.14.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.14.2 Spell Checker Issues
Hello Ian, As far as the registry export is concerned, I don't see anywhere to attach either this file or the jpeg of my options for you, but I do have them both if you need to see them I forgot to reply to this paragraph, sorry. It seems that you are writing/replying through the Gmane newsgroups, is that correct? If so, that's the reason. Can't you just send me an e-mail with the two files as attachments? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14.2 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.14.2 Spell Checker Issues
Hello Maggie, M I have just replied to Henk M. de Bruijn and, in his case and M pending further clarification, it seems that that 'text is not being M checked at all' (like if there was no speller), I have this exact problem as well. Using tinySpell here. But that is a completely different story my friend. TB 'officially' supports three different spelling engines now and 'tinySpell' (of which I had never heard about before, BTW) is an application, external to TB, that _claims_ that Checks spelling in /any/ Windows application. Well, here is one that 'apparently' it doesn't work with, the new Editor in v4 of TB. So, even if it worked with previous versions of TB (its editor), I don't think it fair to 'blame' TB for not working. As I said, I had never before heard about tinySpell. I have been to their website and this is the first you can read there: ,- [ ] | Occasionally you need to check spelling in an application that does not | include a spelling checker and you don't want to launch your word | processor just for that. This is when tinySpell becomes handy. `- Cheers :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14.2 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.14.2 Spell Checker Issues
Hello MAU, As I said, I had never before heard about tinySpell. I have been to their website and this is the first you can read there: ,- [ ] | Occasionally you need to check spelling in an application that does not | include a spelling checker and you don't want to launch your word | processor just for that. This is when tinySpell becomes handy. `- As it happens to me many times, I forgot something: I can also read in tinySpell's site: ,- [ ] | You can start with tinySpell and see if you like the concept and whether | it is compatible with your working environment. `- So, even if they claim that it will work with /any/ Windows application, they also admit it may not be compatible with your working environment. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14.2 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.14.2: Spell checker not working. I have seen it happen!
Hello Maggie, M - I double checked to see if I had 'Automatic check' selected as, due M to testing and the fact that menu icon may be a bit misleading because M it includes the red checkmark, I would not be the first time I had it M not selected. But it was. So, hey! My spell checker wasn't working! Yes, I was caught by that, too. I turned it on, but it doesn't seem to 'stay' turned on. Must turn it on for every message it seems. That's strange. It is sticky here and stays on once I select it. It would be nice if that red checkmark appeared when the speller was in active state. Yes, I agree it may be misleading if you just take a quick look. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14.2 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 4.0.14.2 Spell Checker Issues
Hi MAU, On Tuesday, February 19, 2008 at 10:02:41 AM you wrote: M it seems that that 'text is not being M checked at all' (like if there was no speller), I have this exact problem as well. Using tinySpell here. M But that is a completely different story my friend. TB 'officially' M supports three different spelling engines I understand, pero nunn are working here. I have removed tinySpell from my stysem and re-botted to no avail as you cna see. I have tried to set the preferences in the speller and receive this: --- The Bat! --- Access violation at address 00407E3E in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 0004. --- OK --- -- Regards, Maggie A garden never spurns those who enter it. Running Windows XP, 5, and emailing with The Bat! 4.0.14.2 Current beta is 4.0.14.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
4.0.14.2: Spell checker not working. I have seen it happen!
Hello all, Yes, I have. I was writing my second reply to Maggie Meister when I realised the spell checker wasn't working. To be coherent, I should be a little more specific and explain what I mean by not working, shouldn't I? ;) My facts and what I observed was: - I normally use 'Automatic checking' with CSAPI British English. - While writing to Maggie I made an outstanding typo and noticed no red underline, it wasn't detected as misspelled. - I visually checked what I had already written and found a few other typos not flagged as misspelled either. - I double checked to see if I had 'Automatic check' selected as, due to testing and the fact that menu icon may be a bit misleading because it includes the red checkmark, I would not be the first time I had it not selected. But it was. So, hey! My spell checker wasn't working! - I then tried Check entire text (F4) and, to my surprise, this would find every single word as misspelled (actually as 'Not in dictionary' in the Spell checking dialog) but it did not offer any suggestions for replacement, the 'Change to' and 'Suggestions' were completely blank. I also noticed that 'Add words to' dropdown was also black when it usually shows my CSAPI user dictionary for British English. - A problem with CSAPI perhaps? - I switch to SSCE American English only with same results. No misspelled words if 'Automatic checking' and also exactly same results if 'Checking entire text'. And this was with SSCE now. H! - I closed the editor and opened a new window with same results. I did try this several times and... spell checker not working ;) - Finally, I re-started TB and everything is back to normal. So, go figure! The one thing that may be important to highlight to Rit guys is that both CSAPI and SSCE suddenly ceased to work, which may point out to something common to both engines. Quite obviously, if I see it happen again, I will try to figure out what was I exactly doing to see if I can repeat it at will. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14.2 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.14.2: Spell checker not working. I have seen it happen!
Hi MAU, On Tuesday, February 19, 2008 at 11:04:01 AM you wrote: M - I double checked to see if I had 'Automatic check' selected as, due M to testing and the fact that menu icon may be a bit misleading because M it includes the red checkmark, I would not be the first time I had it M not selected. But it was. So, hey! My spell checker wasn't working! Yes, I was caught by that, too. I turned it on, but it doesn't seem to 'stay' turned on. Must turn it on for every message it seems. It would be nice if that red checkmark appeared when the speller was in active state. Anyway, it still doesn't work. -- Regards, Maggie Everyone thought I was bold and fearless and even arrogant, but inside I was always quaking. -Katharine Hepburn Running Windows XP, 5, and emailing with The Bat! 4.0.14.2 Current beta is 4.0.14.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.14.2 Spell Checker Issues
Hello Maggie, M So, even if they claim that it will work with any Windows application, M they also admit it may not be compatible with your working M environment. I'll just take it out. Maybe it is interfering. But the reason I put it on to begin with was because none of the mis-spelled words were being flagged. See the message I have just sent to the list :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14.2 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 4.0.14.2: Spell checker not working. I have seen it happen!
Hi MAU, On Tuesday, February 19, 2008 at 11:33:05 AM you wrote: M That's strange. It is sticky here and stays on once I select it. Re-checking again. Re: the buttons on the status bar at the left side of the message being written: Auto wrapping is on (no matter what I do) auto formatting is off, justify on suto formatting is on, ABC is off, (none). These buttons all revert to these positions when a new message is created. When I checked about the (none) in the status bar by clicking on it, there is a blank sqare button which pops up and does nothing. How can that be? I have redownloaded the intpack from the Ritlabs site, replaced the one there in the downloads directory, ran the msl. Still the same error message - no dictionaries shown. I'm screaming. Going up to the spell checker category on the menu bar and pressing 'check entire text' or F4, this is the message I receive: --- Edit Mail Message - MAU tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com --- Please select languages used in the text --- OK --- Where does one do this? Still checking further, there is no possibility to set any of the tick boxes in the Spell Checker|Options|Spell Checking Options box without incurring the error mentioned in previous mail. Wondering if the cookidence below is Ritbs? -- Regards, Maggie Better living through denial. Running Windows XP, 5, and emailing with The Bat! 4.0.14.2 Current beta is 4.0.14.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 4.0.14.2 Spell Checker Issues
Hi MAU, On Tuesday, February 19, 2008 at 10:15:20 AM you wrote: M So, even if they claim that it will work with /any/ Windows application, M they also admit it may not be compatible with your working M environment. I'll just take it out. Maybe it *is* interfering. But the reason I put it on to begin with was because none of the mis-spelled words were being flagged. -- Regards, Maggie There are no conditions of life to which a man cannot get accustomed, especially if he sees them accepted by everyone around him. -Anna Karenina Running Windows XP, 5, and emailing with The Bat! 4.0.14.2 Current beta is 4.0.14.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: 4.0.14.2: Spell checker not working. I have seen it happen!
Hi Miguel, On Tuesday, February 19, 2008 at 12:30:05 PM you wrote: MAU That's strange. It is sticky here and stays on once I select it. I have discovered that this behavior is different depending on which mode is chosen in the Options|Preferences|Viewer/Editor. What I was reporting on earlier is if Plain Text (Micro Ed) is chosen. What I have now found is if you choose Plain Text (Windows) or switch among the editor styles, then ALL the words are red-underlined. Also, the spell checker must be reactivated every time. I have not seen such ridiculous behavior in TB! and that is since 1.62r. I'm now going to make a cup of herb tea and pet a cat, hoping that some angel from Chisinau will fix this mess. -- Regards, Maggie A meow massages the heart. -Stuart McMillan Running Windows XP, 5, and emailing with The Bat! 4.0.14.2 Current beta is 4.0.14.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.14.2 Spell Checker Issues
On Tue, 19 Feb 2008, at 14:11:09 [GMT +0100] (which was 14:11 where I live) Mau wrote: You see, this is why I think it is important to 'define' what 'doesn't work' means and why I insist on it. I have just replied to Henk M. de Bruijn and, in his case and pending further clarification, it seems that that 'text is not being checked at all' (like if there was no speller), Hello Miguel, In finding a cause of all this, one of the things I tried was, moving: SSCE5532.DLL to another location. And now my spellchecker is working again! -- Henk _ The Bat! E-Mail System version 4.0.14.2 Pro on Windows XP SP2 Thawte notary, CAcert assurer, GSWoT introducer Gossamer Spider Web of Trust http://www.gswot.org Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail! pgpNtYKxozjle.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 4.0.14.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.14.2 Spell Checker Issues
MAU [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: SNIP I checked the word list in the dictionary and it is not there so there is no reason why it should not flag it. As far as the registry export is concerned, I don't see anywhere to attach either this file or the jpeg of my options for you, but I do have them both if you need to see them Now, here is something I don't understand. If you followed my instructions, as you said yesterday, I assume you only have the American English (SSCE) which is installed by default are testing with it, confirm? If so, where and how did you check the word list in the dictionary? Because the Ssceam2.clx dictionary is not a text file, the Ssceam.tlx is is. I did only have SSCE British English Dictionaries installed but have now had to revert to Hunspel in order to have a functional editor. When I say I followed your instructions, I backed up all of my messages, Removed every trace of The Bat! Did a clean install and then finally restored my messages. At this stage I thought the SSCE engine was working fine, but a few tests proved that it was ignoring some words. If I type nonsense, say tyhg, then it flags it as a spelling error but it does not see the mis-spelling of thought as thiought as an error. I need to do a few further tests as I may have capitalised the first letter of Thought and marked the option to ignore capitalised letters. It is good to bounce these ideas around as it causes me to think more about what I am actually doing. Ian Current beta is 4.0.14.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.14.2 Spell Checker Issues
Hello Henk, You see, this is why I think it is important to 'define' what 'doesn't work' means and why I insist on it. I have just replied to Henk M. de Bruijn and, in his case and pending further clarification, it seems that that 'text is not being checked at all' (like if there was no speller), Hello Miguel, In finding a cause of all this, one of the things I tried was, moving: SSCE5532.DLL to another location. And now my spellchecker is working again! I waited a few minutes before replying in order to calm down a bit and not use what could have been an 'improper' tone. Please take no offence if the tone I use now still seems 'improper' to you. What the heck does now my spellchecker is working again mean? Yes, I know. You type misspelled words, they are detected and you can correct them. But which 'spell checker' are you using for that?. I'd bet a dozen beers it is either Hunspell or CSAPI and not SSCE, correct? If you remove SSCE5532.DLL (the SSCE engine) from The Bat! directory, then there is no way TB can use it and the SSCE spell checker will not work and every single word should be flagged as misspelled. That is, of course, if you are/were only using SSCE. This whole thing of spell checker(s) working/not working is quite confusing by itself, specially because of the possibility of using three different engines and even simultaneously. So, let's all be a little more rigorous when testing and precise when reporting. Again, my apologies if my tone offends you or anyone. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14.2 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 4.0.14.2 Spell Checker Issues
Hello MAU, you wrote and made these points on the subject of - 4.0.14.2 Spell Checker Issues: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] So, let's all be a little more rigorous when testing and precise when reporting. Totally agree. for me -- Hunspell only (SSCE5532 extn renamed from dll to make it inoperative) then spell checking works in every way, no problems Hunspell disabled (extn renamed from dll) and SSCE5532.dll only words with a combination of numeric and alpha are underlined, all other words (right or wrongly spelled) are ignored (no underlining if wrong spelling). Options all left blank. Dictionary - EnglishBR changing options has no effect except for the ignore words with numeric which does correctly ignore them. Other speller not an option for me. (does not exist) My conclusion from this is that SSCE5532.dll is effective since it finds numeric/alpha errors and reacts when option to ignore this is selected. My best guess is that during initialisation process settings are being corrupted. What causes this in just a few systems is the hard bit. Maybe some other programs are corrupting these settings assuming they are held in the registry. I do accept resolving this is difficult unless you have a system with this error but I cannot believe it is due to the normal installation process as that is under the control of the msi installer. I am happy with Hunspell but there is a genuine problem to be sorted. Best regards, Graham -- Graham Howe mail mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 4.0.14.2 on windows version 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.14.2 Spell Checker Issues
On Tue, 19 Feb 2008, at 20:14:53 [GMT +0100] (which was 20:14 where I live) Mau wrote: In finding a cause of all this, one of the things I tried was, moving: SSCE5532.DLL to another location. And now my spellchecker is working again! I waited a few minutes before replying in order to calm down a bit and not use what could have been an 'improper' tone. Please take no offence if the tone I use now still seems 'improper' to you. Because of a working or a not working spellchecker What the heck does now my spellchecker is working again mean? Yes, I know. You type misspelled words, they are detected and you can correct them. But which 'spell checker' are you using for that?. I'd bet a dozen beers it is either Hunspell or CSAPI and not SSCE, correct? If you remove SSCE5532.DLL (the SSCE engine) from The Bat! directory, then there is no way TB can use it and the SSCE spell checker will not work and every single word should be flagged as misspelled. That is, of course, if you are/were only using SSCE. This whole thing of spell checker(s) working/not working is quite confusing by itself, specially because of the possibility of using three different engines and even simultaneously. So, let's all be a little more rigorous when testing and precise when reporting. Again, my apologies if my tone offends you or anyone. Because of a working or an not working spellchecker. No, I do not understand. -- Henk M. de Bruijn _ The Bat! E-Mail System version 4.0.14.2 Pro on Windows XP SP2 Thawte notary, CAcert assurer, GSWoT introducer Gossamer Spider Web of Trust http://www.gswot.org Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail! pgpRJ5mEhBS3X.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 4.0.14.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.14.2 Spell Checker Issues
Hello Ian, snipped quite a bit So I now can only have files that the MSI file contained and would have to be a matched set, but I still cannot get the spell checker to work. Since you didn't do exactly what I told you to do, I have nothing further to say. Good luck my friend. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14.2 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.14.2 Spell Checker Issues
MAU [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: SNIP Since you didn't do exactly what I told you to do, I have nothing further to say. Good luck my friend. I have just followed your instructions and found that the spell-checker still does not work. Ian Current beta is 4.0.14.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.14.2 Spell Checker Issues
Hello Ian, I have just followed your instructions and found that the spell-checker still does not work. OK, if you did (i.e uninstalled, deleted registry key, etc., and did a Custom install with only Core), let's try to pin it down a bit more. Please export your HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT key, rename it as .txt (to avoid the risk of some one double clicking on it) and either post it here or send it to me by PM so I can compare it with mine to see if there any differences that could be significant? A screen capture of of Spell Checker Options dialog would also help. As I said in a reply to Graham in this same thread, no one can assure there is nothing wrong with the SSCE engine. But the fact that it works for most makes it more difficult to find why it fails for some, specially if developers can't reproduce the failure. BTW, when you say it doesn't work, does it mean that it doesn't mark any words as misspelled? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14.2 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.14.2 Spell Checker Issues
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008, at 23:16:52 [GMT +0100] (which was 23:16 where I live) Mau wrote: ...*snip* BTW, when you say it doesn't work, does it mean that it doesn't mark any words as misspelled? Hello Miguel, I hope you don't mind stepping into this thread but this is exactly what happens on my side when I upgrade from this version. As well for the rar as for the msi versions. -- grtz, Henk _ The Bat! E-Mail System version 4.0.0.22 Pro on Windows XP SP2 Thawte notary, CAcert assurer, GSWoT introducer Gossamer Spider Web of Trust http://www.gswot.org Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail! pgpUM86SRjvCw.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 4.0.14.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.14.2 Spell Checker Issues
Hello Ian, snipped quite a bit One thing I did try was to install an earlier version of The Bat!, but I could not. When I start after the installation confirms I have installed the earlier version, the splash screen and Help|About both still show 4.0.14.2. Then checking Add or Remove Programs sees two offending entries there. Be patient for a few minutes, I'm looking at all dirs and registry attachments sent yesterday and will be suggesting what to do after I have breakfast. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14.2 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.14.2 Spell Checker Issues
Hello Ian, I have attached a folder listing of the The Bat! program folder. M Can you attach (or send by PM) the listing of Speller and Dictionaries M directories? M Also, can you export and attach this Registry key? M HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\SpellCheck Here are the files. OK, here I am. I'll try to respond to your different issues in this and other threads. First of all I must say that I didn't find anything that I can say *is wrong*. Specially in regards to dictionaries, your registry entries do match the dictionaries you have in the Speller directory. However, there are a number of things that make me wonder how you have been doing upgrades along the years. For example: - In Speller directory I see dictionaries with dates as old as 1996 and then for many different years up to 2008. While all of mine (from the last IntPack) are dated 29/08/2007, except the user ones which may have been updated by the program (my userdic.tlx is dated 11/02/2008). - Your 'readme.txt' file (which contains the list of changes since the very first release and which hardly anybody reads, BTW) in The Bat! directory is dated 14/10/2007 while, if you had installed 4.0.14 correctly is should be dated 06/02/2008 or so. Have you had a look at it? If so, its contents should start with: ,- [ ] | The Bat! | Copyright (C) 1997-2008 RITLABS S.R.L. | Version 4.0 | | What's new in The Bat! 4.0 (comparing to v3.99.25)? `- Also, your 'licence_pro.rtf' file should have the same date. Now, before telling you what I would suggest you do now, I'll tell you how I go about upgrades to newer versions and, specially, about Beta versions. Look at my program dir attached and notice the dates. I always try to keep it 'as clean' as possible. What I do is: - For new versions with an MSI installation file, I do a Custom install and only install the Core files (no languages or dictionaries). This way I have the UI in English, the only one I use, and only the AM (SSCE American English) dictionary, which is installed by default along with 'accent.tlx', 'correct.tlx' and 'UserDic.TLX' user dictionaries. - If, for testing or any other reason, I want to install dictionaries for other language(s) I 'install' the latest International pack in a *temp* directory and from there I copy the desired language dictionaries to the Speller directory. The next time TB is executed will create the corresponding Registry entries. Similarly if I want to remove a language I don't use. - For Beta versions from *.rar files, I extract then to a temp dir, rename them to include the version number, *copy* them to the TB directory and then create a shortcut in my desktop. You can see this in attachment. This way I can easily switch versions for testing, and always have the last 'release' version (thebat.exe) available without needing to reinstall it. - You will also notice that I have a 'Disabled' directory. This is where I Move anything I want to remove from The Bat! directory before actually deleting (even to the recycle bin). Now, what I would do if I was you is: - First of all make a back up copy of your complete MAIL directory. Not a backup with TB, copy the whole tree somewhere else or ZIP it up. - Make a copy of of your 'user' dictionaries in Speller if you have added any words to them. - In another thread you say that your 'Add or Remove programs' in your Control Panel shows two different installations (3.99.29 and 4.0.14), which also makes me wonder how you have gone about upgrades. - Try to uninstall 4.0.14 using the 'Uninstall' option. This should remove program files only, but not used data (messages, address books, configurations files). - Then, if v3.99.29 still shows in 'Add Remove programs' try to uninstall it also. If it doesn't work or gives you some error and it isn't removed from 'Add Remove programs', try the 'Windows Installer CleanUp Utility' suggested in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - If your 'The Bat' directory is still there and it is not completely 'clean', delete it. - Although I don't think it is absolutely necessary, delete your HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT key. You may want to export it and save it for a 'just in case' of for 'reference'. Finally, I would suggest a new installation of 4.0.14 (if you haven't, download download the MSI for pro AND the International Pack. - Do a 'Custom' installation as I explain above and only install Core. This will give you the English GUI and the American English dictionary to test if the speller (SSCE engine) works. - During installation, select the home mail directory to where ever you have it. - If asked to create an account, do so with a name you haven't used before. You can delete it afterwards. - Once installed, open
Re: 4.0.14.2 Spell Checker Issues
Hello MAU, - Try to uninstall 4.0.14 using the 'Uninstall' option. This should remove program files only, but not used data (messages, address books, configurations files). First TYPO I find when re-reading. Should read: but not *user* data... -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14.2 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 4.0.14.2 Spell Checker Issues
Hello MAU, you wrote and made these points on the subject of - 4.0.14.2 Spell Checker Issues: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] And, if this all doesn't work... I will give up and you will not owe me a beer :) I do hope this uncovers something but I do have to say that the dates of files are much the same in my dir and these were loaded direct from the TB pro msi. I have tried using just the BR ones and same result so I think the cause is not in these files. I am still of the opinion that there is something wrong in the SSCE engine. Reason, when I only use SSCE and make sure Hunspell is not there the spell checker finds words containg numeric. So, 44ffg is found as is ffg66 but ffg is seemingly correct! This indicates to me that SSCE engine is processing the words but for some reason internally not correctly. It is a frustrating mystery but hopefully in time the reason will be found, I do hope so. Best regards, Graham -- Graham Howe mail mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 4.0.14.2 on windows version 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.14.2 Spell Checker Issues
Hello Graham, And, if this all doesn't work... I will give up and you will not owe me a beer :) I do hope this uncovers something but I do have to say that the dates of files are much the same in my dir and these were loaded direct from the TB pro msi. I have tried using just the BR ones and same result so I think the cause is not in these files. I never said that these files with different dates may be the cause of the problems. I just said that they made me wonder about how Ian (and perhaps you and others) have been doing upgrades along the years. I am still of the opinion that there is something wrong in the SSCE engine. No one can assure there is not. However, if there is, it doesn't seem to show up for most. It is a frustrating mystery but hopefully in time the reason will be found, I do hope so. Why don't you take the risk and do as I suggested to Ian? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14.2 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 4.0.14.2 Spell Checker Issues
Hello MAU, you wrote and made these points on the subject of - 4.0.14.2 Spell Checker Issues: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I never said that these files with different dates may be the cause of the problems. I just said that they made me wonder about how Ian (and perhaps you and others) have been doing upgrades along the years. Please don't think I am attacking your analysis, it is because of you I have a working Hunspell and happy with that. Re updating, I am very new to TB and so have only had the last version of v3 and have updated with v4 as it came along and betas. The update process is what I do for all programs so if there is a quirk in this then TB had better sort it for new sales. What seems very strange is I see reports of SSCE giving problems with capitalisation yet for me I cannot reproduce this but it is with numeric combinations. I have also seen others complain about the 'spelling' saga but if it doesn't work then it needs to be kept prominent so that eventually it gets attention from the TB programming team. I have tried almost every thing you have suggested and but for manually modifying the registry,which I do not have the skills or understanding to do, though I do use a very good registry clean program (Ace utilities) to correct obvious registry errors. Possibly, this could be a cause but I suspect others do not use this. Your help is much appreciated, believe me, Best regards, Graham -- Graham Howe mail mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 4.0.14.2 on windows version 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.14.2 Spell Checker Issues
Hello Ian, I have attached a folder listing of the The Bat! program folder. Can you attach (or send by PM) the listing of Speller and Dictionaries directories? Also, can you export and attach this Registry key? HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\SpellCheck -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14.2 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Winamp Playing: ARW-01 Current beta is 4.0.14.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.14.2 Spell Checker Issues
Hello Ian, On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 08:59:40 +1100 GMT (17/02/2008, 04:59 +0700 GMT), Ian A. White wrote: IAW In my The Bat! program folder there are two SSCE files (SSCE5532.dll IAW and SSCE5132.dll), both of which are as a result of installs. I moved IAW them to the Speller folder that the install created. When starting IAW The Bat!, EVERY word is flagged as a misspelled word. IAW I moved the SSCE5132.dll file back to the The Bat! program folder and IAW restarted The Bat!. The same problem existed. IAW I moved the SSCE5532.dll file back to the The Bat! program folder and IAW restarted The Bat!. TB! uses SSCE5532.dll in the TB! directory for access to the dictionaires. So, if you move it somewhere else, TB!'s spellchecker cannot confirm any word is correct. SSCE5132.dll is the dll that TB! used before. If is not used any more now. So it doesn't matter whether it's in the TB! directory or not. IAW What would happen if I was to simply rename the The Bat! folder IAW and run the installer again? IAW Would this give me a clean install? No, you would have to delete the registry key first. Before you do that, export it and keep it with your backup of the TB! directory. IAW Would I have to locate my registration keys? Yes. I have parked the message with the registration key. Now is the time to export it and keep it with your backup. Once you have made the clean install, import this mail and open it. You'll be registered. -- Cheers, Thomas. He's not dead, he's electroencephalographically challenged. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.14.2 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How-To get the 3 spell checker engines to work - Part 2 (SSCE)
Hello Costas, CP I wonder if a solution has been posted/found to use the MS Proofing Tools CP dictionaries (MS Office 2003 version) with The Bat! :'( No, there is no solution because they've changed interface to DLLs they use. -- Best regards, Stefan Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How-To get the 3 spell checker engines to work - Part 4 (Hunspell)
Hello Graham, And that's all. As I said in my first message, if this helps at least one of you, I'll be happy :) Thank you for describing what is required to get spelling to work. Despite all your efforts I cannot get it to work. That's strange. In line with your advice I can confirm I have all the files you mention for SSCE and english (BR) selected. Again, strange. What options do you have ticked for the SSCE engine? Following your instructions I added Hunspell (dll was already there but added other files) Why did you do that? Did you somehow 'disabled' SCCE first? Otherwise, you are just adding more variables to your 'problematic environment. What 'other files' you added?. Just the dictionaries for BR? I use MS Word 2007 and so no CSAPI - maybe this is the problem? No, the fact that CSAPI is not available should be no problem for SSCE to work as it should. OK, all appears correctly set up but it refuses to work frunt lok (these have no effect as being mis-spelled) 99ggg 444ggg (these are underlined in red but only for numeric followed by alpha) Spell cjhecking is a must for me and I am deserate for a solution, I should add that untill V4 (all versions) it did work I have copypasted your four lines above in my editor window and all misspelled words are flagged correctly. And I have tested, ONE AT A TIME, with the three engines. Anymore ideas, help! Not at the moment. I would anyway suggest trying an engine at a time. And I would try to get the SCCE one to work first. Hunspell seems to work fine too, it is the dictionaries that may make a difference. In my case, I tested the Spanish one and it is quite poor. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.12 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How-To get the 3 spell checker engines to work - Part 4 (Hunspell)
Hello Stuart, Even though I have everything working as you describe I would like to congratulate you for your excellent synopsis. :beer: :beer: :beer: Thank you my friend. Nice and cool beers that I enjoyed outside on a beautiful sunny day. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.12 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How-To get the 3 spell checker engines to work - Part 2 (SSCE)
Hello Costas, Thank you for the instructions. It's just what I was looking for! I downloaded the International Pack and extracted the British English files from the msi file to the directory you mention. Glad you got it working Even if it was just you who got some benefit from my posting, I feel rewarded :) I wonder if a solution has been posted/found to use the MS Proofing Tools dictionaries (MS Office 2003 version) with The Bat! :'( I see that Stefan has already answered to that. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.12 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: How-To get the 3 spell checker engines to work - Part 4 (Hunspell)
Hello MAU, Sunday, February 10, 2008, 10:55:03 AM, you wrote: Even though I have everything working as you describe I would like to congratulate you for your excellent synopsis. :beer: :beer: :beer: Thank you my friend. Nice and cool beers that I enjoyed outside on a beautiful sunny day. You are most welcome. It is too cold here, -27 C, to drink that beer anyway. :) -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v4.0.11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How-To get the 3 spell checker engines to work - Part 4 (Hunspell)
Hello Stuart, It is too cold here, -27 C, And you are still alive? ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.12 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Spell Checker
Hi I have just tried to send a message to this address after using the Hunspel spell checker and have received an access violation message after trying to add SP to the dictionary. Apart from the occasional access violation in module ntll.dll and all of the Hunspel options being greyed out, all appears to be fine. Any progress on the internal spellchecker engine? It doesn't work for me at all. Win XP HE SP2. I am using version 4.0.11 of The Bat! Ian -- Ian Pollard LRPS Wooler//Northumberland//UK "He is no fool, who gives what he cannot keep, to gain what he cannot lose" Jim Eliot Current beta is 4.0.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
How-To get the 3 spell checker engines to work - Part 1
Hello all, Although Spell Checker is working for most of us, everyday I see that one or more of the three engines (SSCE, CSAPI and Hunspell) is not working for some. The SSCE engine is the one that has always been included with TB and the SSCE languages (dictionaries) in the Pro version and International Pack. TB has always (or at least since a long time ago) supported CSAPI spell checker and languages from MS Office 97. My understanding is that only Office 97 engine and dictionaries can be used, but I am not 100% sure about this. Now, the latest release (actually since 4.0.0.17 ALPHA) also supports the Hunspell engines and dictionaries and the fact that you can select and use two or more languages simultaneously, and from any of the three engines (See All_DICs.png) One important thing to understand and remember is that you do not select 'dictionaries' for spell checking, you select 'languages'. And that if there are dictionaries for that language from different engines, they will all be used. In this case, the rule is: as soon as a word is found correct by one of the dictionaries, it is considered correct (even if another dictionary wouldn't consider it as correct). Because of this is why I made a comparison of the Spanish and Britis English dictionaries for the three engines. You nay have seen my mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] in which I compared the Spanish dictionary of the three languages. That obviously meant that I had the three engines running. Currently I have four languages installed: America English (SSCE) British English (SSCE) Spanish (CSAPI) Italian (Hunspell) As you can see in All_Dics.png I can even select and use them simultaneously, and they do work. But to prove that the three engines work and they all find misspelled words and suggest corrections, I have also attached a screen shot of each. You can see the language being used in the status bar and the suggestions for a misspelled (in that language) word. Mainly because of the limitation in the size of attachments that can be sent to the list, and perhaps for the sake of clarity, I will follow up with three more messages (parts 2 to 4) explaining my set-up for each of the engines. If this and following messages helps just one of you to get your spell checking to work, I'll be happy :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.12 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 attachment: All_DICs.pngattachment: SSCE_AM.pngattachment: CSAPI_SP.pngattachment: Hunspell_IT.png Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
How-To get the 3 spell checker engines to work - Part 2 (SSCE)
Hello all, I'll try to be brief and clear. The SSCE engine (SSCE5532.dll) is installed with TB I have TB installed in: C:\Program Files\The Bat! And the dictionaries in: C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Speller They MUST be in your ...\The Bat!\Speller This Speller directory MUST include these three files: userdic.tlx accent.tlx correct.tlx and then a pair of .clx and .tlx files for each language you want to use. I have these for American English: Ssceam2.clx Ssceam.tlx and these for Britsh English: sscebr12.clx SSCEBR.tlx And you can see my options (Spell Checker/Options) for SCCE in attached PNG. You will also see in this png that there is a tab for each of the engines installed. If one is missing is because it is not installed (or properly so) and TB doesn't see it. I have seen some confusion about these dialog and tabs. The tabs are NOT to select the engine to be used for spelling, you select languages. The dialog and tabs are just to set the options for the engines installed. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.12 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2attachment: SSCE_Options.png Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
How-To get the 3 spell checker engines to work - Part 3 (CSAPI)
Hello all, You do not need to install anything in any of TB directories. As far as I know, if you have MS Office 97 installed (at least Word) the CSAPI engine and dictionaries will be installed and TB will see them and make them available to you. I don't have MS Office 97 currently installed, I have Office XP. But I kept a copy of the engine and dictionaries I wanted to use and installed then manually. I copied 'MSSP232.DLL' (the engine) and 'mssp2_es.lex' (the Spanish dictionary) to this directory: C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Proof and then I entered (imported) the registry keys that you can see in 'Spelling_XP_en_C.reg.txt' attached. I am also including a screen grab of my options for CSAPI. And that is all. Anyway, I am including the 'Setup instructions' that I sent by PM to someone in this list and he got it working. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.12 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2W i n d o w s R e g i s t r y E d i t o r V e r s i o n 5 . 0 0 [ H K E Y _ L O C A L _ M A C H I N E \ S O F T W A R E \ M i c r o s o f t \ S h a r e d T o o l s \ P r o o f i n g T o o l s ] [ H K E Y _ L O C A L _ M A C H I N E \ S O F T W A R E \ M i c r o s o f t \ S h a r e d T o o l s \ P r o o f i n g T o o l s \ S p e l l i n g ] [ H K E Y _ L O C A L _ M A C H I N E \ S O F T W A R E \ M i c r o s o f t \ S h a r e d T o o l s \ P r o o f i n g T o o l s \ S p e l l i n g \ 1 0 3 4 ] [ H K E Y _ L O C A L _ M A C H I N E \ S O F T W A R E \ M i c r o s o f t \ S h a r e d T o o l s \ P r o o f i n g T o o l s \ S p e l l i n g \ 1 0 3 4 \ N o r m a l ] E n g i n e = C : \ \ P r o g r a m F i l e s \ \ C o m m o n F i l e s \ \ M i c r o s o f t S h a r e d \ \ P r o o f \ \ M S S P 2 3 2 . D L L D i c t i o n a r y = C : \ \ P r o g r a m F i l e s \ \ C o m m o n F i l e s \ \ M i c r o s o f t S h a r e d \ \ P r o o f \ \ m s s p 2 _ e s . l e x [ H K E Y _ L O C A L _ M A C H I N E \ S O F T W A R E \ M i c r o s o f t \ S h a r e d T o o l s \ P r o o f i n g T o o l s \ S p e l l i n g \ 1 0 3 4 \ N o r m a l \ C l i e n t s ] C : \ \ P r o g r a m F i l e s \ \ C o m m o n F i l e s \ \ M i c r o s o f t S h a r e d \ \ P r o o f \ \ M S S P 2 3 2 . D L L = [ H K E Y _ L O C A L _ M A C H I N E \ S O F T W A R E \ M i c r o s o f t \ S h a r e d T o o l s \ P r o o f i n g T o o l s \ S p e l l i n g \ V e n d o r ] I n s o = C : \ \ P r o g r a m F i l e s \ \ C o m m o n F i l e s \ \ M i c r o s o f t S h a r e d \ \ P r o o f \ \ M S S P 2 3 2 . D L L [ H K E Y _ L O C A L _ M A C H I N E \ S O F T W A R E \ M i c r o s o f t \ S h a r e d T o o l s \ P r o o f i n g T o o l s \ S p e l l i n g \ V e n d o r \ C l i e n t s ] C : \ \ P r o g r a m F i l e s \ \ M i c r o s o f t O f f i c e \ \ O f f i c e 1 0 \ \ W I N W O R D . E X E = Intructions on how to setup MS Office 97 dictionaries and CSAPI engine to be used by The Bat! 1.- Open 'Spelling_XP_en_C.reg' in Notepad. 2.- Carefully look at file patths in Registry entries. You may have to change Drive letter and translate directory names like: Archivos de programa (Program Files) Archivos comunes (Common Files) 3.- Now place dictionaries and engine (dll) in the directories indicated by registry entries. 4.- Save modified 'Spelling_XP_en_C.reg' and Import to your Resgistry. 5.- Your 'new' dictionaries should now appear as an option next time you start TB. attachment: CSAPI_Options.png Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
How-To get the 3 spell checker engines to work - Part 4 (Hunspell)
Hello all, For the Hunspell engine to be available and work, you must have the 'hunspell.dll' in your TB home or installation directory. In my case: C:\Program Files\The Bat! You can download language dictionaries from: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Dictionaries There are at least two files, a .dic and a .aff) that must be installed in (or copied to) this directory: ...\The Bat!\Dictionaries In my case, for Italian I have: it_IT.dic it_IT.aff in C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Dictionaries As you can see in attached PNG, the Hunspell options are all disabled and grayed out. AFAIK, RIT guy are still working on them. And that's all. As I said in my first message, if this helps at least one of you, I'll be happy :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.12 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 attachment: Hunspell_Options.png Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How-To get the 3 spell checker engines to work - Part 4 (Hunspell)
Hello MAU, And that's all. As I said in my first message, if this helps at least one of you, I'll be happy :) Thank you for describing what is required to get spelling to work. Despite all your efforts I cannot get it to work. In line with your advice I can confirm I have all the files you mention for SSCE and english (BR) selected Following your instructions I added Hunspell (dll was already there but added other files) I use MS Word 2007 and so no CSAPI - maybe this is the problem? OK, all appears correctly set up but it refuses to work frunt lok (these have no effect as being mis-spelled) 99ggg 444ggg (these are underlined in red but only for numeric followed by alpha) Spell cjhecking is a must for me and I am deserate for a solution, I should add that untill V4 (all versions) it did work Anymore ideas, help! Thanks Graham -- Graham Howe mail mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Model Engineering Web Sitehttp://www.homepages.mcb.net/howe/ Using The Bat! 4.0.12 on windows version 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How-To get the 3 spell checker engines to work - Part 4 (Hunspell)
Hello MAU, Saturday, February 9, 2008, 7:41:02 PM, you wrote: M And that's all. As I said in my first message, if this helps at least M one of you, I'll be happy :) Even though I have everything working as you describe I would like to congratulate you for your excellent synopsis. :beer: :beer: :beer: -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v4.0.11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How-To get the 3 spell checker engines to work - Part 2 (SSCE)
Hello Miguel, Sunday, February 10, 2008, 3:40:38 AM, you wrote (possibly edited): I'll try to be brief and clear. The SSCE engine (SSCE5532.dll) is installed with TB I have TB installed in: C:\Program Files\The Bat! And the dictionaries in: C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Speller They MUST be in your ...\The Bat!\Speller This Speller directory MUST include these three files: 8...snip...8 and these for Britsh English: sscebr12.clx SSCEBR.tlx Thank you for the instructions. It's just what I was looking for! I downloaded the International Pack and extracted the British English files from the msi file to the directory you mention. I wonder if a solution has been posted/found to use the MS Proofing Tools dictionaries (MS Office 2003 version) with The Bat! :'( -- Best regards, Costas Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spell checker dictionaries location [4.0.0.22 Release Candidate]
Guten Tag Costas Papadopoulos, am Mittwoch, 6. Februar 2008 um 22:19 schrieben Sie: If I want to use Hunspell to check spelling, do I really have to make a copy of the existing .aff and .dic files in the Dictionaries directory which should be in The Bat home directory? This is very inefficient: Why could we not use the dictionaries from their original location? As a config option, i would support this. But what about the add word to dictionary feature, does this affect the orginal dictionaries, or will this be kept in an user dictionary? -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.0.0.22 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Spell checker dictionaries location [4.0.0.22 Release Candidate]
If I want to use Hunspell to check spelling, do I really have to make a copy of the existing .aff and .dic files in the Dictionaries directory which should be in The Bat home directory? This is very inefficient: Why could we not use the dictionaries from their original location? -- Best regards, Costas Current beta is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.0.21 spell checker
On Wednesday, February 6, 2008, 12:18:50 PM, Mike Rourke wrote: Maxim [-] (Beta) Manual spell checker was checking quoted text and Maxim URLs Seems to be still checking quoted text. Also if you hit cancel when manually checking spelling (F4 or Spell Checker Check Entire Text). TheBat! gives an invalid pointer error then self destructs after hitting OK on the invalid pointer box several times. I had this happen once, but I can't get it to repeat. -- Dwight A. Corrin 1201 W River Blvd Apt B108 Wichita KS 67203 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.0.0.21 (BETA) on Windows XP version 5,1 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spell checker - another try
Hello MAU, Monday, February 4, 2008, 1:08:25 AM, you wrote: The separator line is missing here also.But I can still see and use British English and Spanish CSAPI languages. I see no reason why Greek shouldn't also work. Are you sure that these are CSAPI and not SSCE? Because if I'm not mistaken the separator separated spell engines. Till version 4.0.0.12 I have both english and greek spell check simultaneously, english from SSCE engine and greek from CSAPI. Now I have only SCSE listed. -- George M. Menegakis Using The Bat v4.0.0.17 (ALPHA) on Windows XP Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.0.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spell checker - another try
Hello George, GMM Are you sure that these are CSAPI and not SSCE? Because if I'm not mistaken GMM the separator separated spell engines. Now you can only select languages - the number of engines is not limited now, so we don't see big reason to select languages separately for each engine. -- Cheers! Stefan ...Unknown Error on Unknown Device for Unexplainable Reason Current beta is 4.0.0.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spell checker
Hello Roelof, Saturday, February 2, 2008, 10:25:32 PM, you wrote: RO Nevertheless a new spelling is reason enough for a new dictionary RO file in TB. (And therefore this is on topic.) If hunspell is going to be used, shall we be able to use the same dictionaries as OpenOffice? -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! Version 4.0.0.17 (ALPHA) with MyMacros 1.11a zOmbie's Macros Version 0.7 Windows 2000 Professional/5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 (0 days 1:24:11) on Uno AMD Duron Current beta is 4.0.0.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spell checker - another try .. BUT no suggested words.
Hello Jody, Monday, February 4, 2008, 5:38:17 AM, you wrote: JW It did work .. I selected a language BUT .. when a word is misspelled JW and I right click on the word .. no suggestions are made as to how to JW the spelling of the word. Is there something else I am missing? Not even if you choose More suggestions? -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! Version 4.0.0.17 (ALPHA) with MyMacros 1.11a zOmbie's Macros Version 0.7 Windows 2000 Professional/5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 (0 days 1:20:41) on Uno AMD Duron Current beta is 4.0.0.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spell checker - another try
Hello Stefan, Monday, February 4, 2008, 11:16:26 AM, you wrote: Now you can only select languages - the number of engines is not limited now, so we don't see big reason to select languages separately for each engine. Be that as it may I still don't see Greek in the menu. Actually If Start in in Bat's shortcut is empty I see no languages at all. Though this is expected for SSCE spell check it isn't for CSAPI. -- George M. Menegakis Using The Bat v4.0.0.17 (ALPHA) on Windows XP Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.0.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spell checker
Hello Mark, MP If hunspell is going to be used, shall we be able to use the same MP dictionaries as OpenOffice? Definitely. -- Cheers! Stefan ...Any given program will expand to fill all the available memory. Current beta is 4.0.0.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spell checker - another try
Hello George, The separator line is missing here also.But I can still see and use British English and Spanish CSAPI languages. I see no reason why Greek shouldn't also work. Are you sure that these are CSAPI and not SSCE? Because if I'm not mistaken the separator separated spell engines. Yes, sure. I have never installed the International pack and the only SSCE language available with no int pack is US English. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.0.17 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.0.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spell checker - another try
Hello Dwight, I tried to change dictionaries from CSAPI to SSCE and to hunspell, but neither will stick. Where did you do that? In Spell Checker/Options? If so, that is NOT to select the engine to use, it is just a dialog to set the options for the different engines installed. You don't select engines but languages. The engine(s) used depend(s) on the language you select. If you select a language that is only available for one of the engines, that is the one that will be used. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.0.17 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.0.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spell checker
Hello Stefan, Monday, February 4, 2008, 11:10:51 AM, you wrote: MP If hunspell is going to be used, shall we be able to use the same MP dictionaries as OpenOffice? ST Definitely. Then the problem of the new Dutch spelling will be solved since the most recent OO-file has the 2005 spelling. Thanks for your reply. -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! Version 4.0.0.17 (ALPHA) with MyMacros 1.11a zOmbie's Macros Version 0.7 Windows 2000 Professional/5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 (0 days 3:44:21) on Uno AMD Duron Current beta is 4.0.0.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spell checker - another try .. BUT no suggested words.
E-Mail Message ~~ From: Mark Partous Date: Monday, February 04, 2008 at 3:26 AM Subject: Spell checker - another try .. BUT no suggested words. _ _\/_ o/\o Hello Jody, Monday, February 4, 2008, 5:38:17 AM, you wrote: JW It did work .. I selected a language BUT .. when a word is misspelled JW and I right click on the word .. no suggestions are made as to how to JW the spelling of the word. Is there something else I am missing? Not even if you choose More suggestions? _ correct .. More suggestions does nothing .. no words appear. Having said that .. 4.0.19 has fixed my problems. -- Jody Outlook not so good. -- That magic 8-ball (and remember, it knows everything!) The Bat! 4.0.0.19 (BETA) ... Running on Windows Vista 6.0 -- Thought / Fact / Joke of the day I had a 3-year old puppy and I named him 'Stay'. He was really confused, I used to say, 'Come here, Stay', 'Come here, Stay'. Current beta is 4.0.0.19 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spell checker
Hello Roger, On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 09:30:17 +0200 GMT (03/02/2008, 14:30 +0700 GMT), Roger Phillips wrote: JS Access violation at address 00887CCD in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address FFFC. I had this happen too. Doing a 'Repair' of the International package solved the problem. The one I used was intpack_3-99-25.msi How exactly did you do the repair? Also, the link http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/intpack_3-99-25.msi doesn't work any more. Does anybody know where to donwload this intpack now? -- Cheers, Thomas. Things are more like they are now than they ever were before. - Dwight D. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.0.17 (ALPHA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.0.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spell checker
Hello Peter, Yeah, I know. Can one get a passport being an inhabitant of Holland ? Oh! I'm sure they can get a passport. A Dutch one, of course ;) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.0.17 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.0.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spell checker
Hi Thomas, Also, the link ... doesn't work any more. Does anybody know where to donwload this intpack now? the current International Pack is v3.99.29, do you really want this old file? » http://thebat.zetema.de/download.html v3.99.25: http://files.nobat.ru/intpack/84 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/intpack_3-99-29.msi -- Best regards Miroslav BAT-MAIL.DE.VU - http://bat-mail.de.vu Current beta is 4.0.0.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
[OT] About Holland (WAS: Re: Spell checker)
Hello Peter, To my knowledge, there is no country called Holland. M http://traveltoholland.org/holland-map/ :) Yeah, I know. Can one get a passport being an inhabitant of Holland ? Now a bit more seriously :) We know that the country is the Nederlands but, whether you like it or not, the fact is that in many languages (including English and Spanish) Holland is used many times to refer to the whole country. See for example this: ,---[ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netherlands_%28terminology%29#Holland ] | | In languages other than Dutch, including English, Holland is often | used as a common but technically incorrect synonym for the Netherlands | as a whole. Strictly speaking, it refers only to the central-western | part of the country, which consists of two of the country's twelve | provinces: North Holland and South Holland. This confusion between a | part and its whole (pars pro toto) also exists with the names of other | countries, such as Russia for the (former) Soviet Union or England for | the United Kingdom (see also British Isles terminology). `- -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.0.17 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.0.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Spell checker
Hello Thomas, Sunday, February 3, 2008, 10:56:05 AM, among other things, you wrote: I had this happen too. Doing a 'Repair' of the International package solved the problem. The one I used was intpack_3-99-25.msi TF How exactly did you do the repair? Just run the .msi file. It gives you the options of Install or Repair. Miroslav has given the URL: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/intpack_3-99-29.msi -- Best regards, Roger :flag-southafrica: The Bat! v4.0.0.17 (ALPHA) with AntiSpamSniper 2.7.1.5, on Windows XP, version 5 1, build 2600 and Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.0.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spell checker
Guten Tag Roger Phillips, am Sonntag, 3. Februar 2008 um 13:01 schrieben Sie: I had this happen too. Doing a 'Repair' of the International package solved the problem. The one I used was intpack_3-99-25.msi TF How exactly did you do the repair? Just run the .msi file. It gives you the options of Install or Repair. I already did report, that i did a REPAIR and this didn't help me to get success. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.0.0.17 (ALPHA) Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 4.0.0.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spell checker
Hello Roger and Miroslav, On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 14:01:03 +0200 GMT (03/02/2008, 19:01 +0700 GMT), Roger Phillips wrote: RP Just run the .msi file. It gives you the options of Install or RP Repair. Miroslav has given the URL: RP http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/intpack_3-99-29.msi The file didn't install. This is the first time ever that I have a problem with an .msi file. Never mind, I'll back out of this thread, as I don't usually use spell checkers anyway. -- Cheers, Thomas. Do pediatricians play miniature golf on Wednesdays? http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.0.17 (ALPHA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.0.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Spell checker - another try
Hello All, I'm wondering whether those people who's experiencing problems with the spell checker are starting TB! from another directory (the %EMAIL% one, for example). Maybe it worth to try to set the Start in property of the Desktop/menu/QuickLauch shortcut that starts TB! to whatever is the directory of TheBat.EXE... -- Best regards, Stefan ...Computers make very fast, very accurate mistakes. Current beta is 4.0.0.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spell checker - another try
On Sunday, February 3, 2008, 18:11:01, Stefan Tanurkov wrote: Hello All, I'm wondering whether those people who's experiencing problems with the spell checker are starting TB! from another directory (the %EMAIL% one, for example). Maybe it worth to try to set the Start in property of the Desktop/menu/QuickLauch shortcut that starts TB! to whatever is the directory of TheBat.EXE... Confirmed - I had the Start In directory empty in the shortcut I use to start TB, and when I set it to TB's directory, the languages appeared. Nevertheless, this is a bug, because you can't rely on the working directory being set when TB is started (eg. if I double-click a .msg file on disk while TB isn't running, it'll be started with the directory where I double-clicked the file as it's working dir). -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v4.0.0.17 (ALPHA) on Windows XP Professional x64 Edition 5.2.3790.Service Pack 2] It's always the partner's fault. -- First Law of Bridge Current beta is 4.0.0.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spell checker - another try
Hello All, I'm wondering whether those people who's experiencing problems with the spell checker are starting TB! from another directory (the %EMAIL% one, for example). Maybe it worth to try to set the Start in property of the Desktop/menu/QuickLauch shortcut that starts TB! to whatever is the directory of TheBat.EXE... BINGO!! Fixed for me! -- Best regards, Jim H. Using The Bat! v4.0.0.17 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.0.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spell checker - another try
Hello All, I'm wondering whether those people who's experiencing problems with the spell checker are starting TB! from another directory (the %EMAIL% one, for example). Maybe it worth to try to set the Start in property of the Desktop/menu/QuickLauch shortcut that starts TB! to whatever is the directory of TheBat.EXE... I had nothing in the start directory I added C:\Program Files\The Bat! It didn't change anything -- Rick Republican Tax Cuts for the wealthy Look where it has got us so far! Lets do it some more! v4.0.0.17 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.0.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spell checker - another try
Hello All, I'm wondering whether those people who's experiencing problems with the spell checker are starting TB! from another directory (the %EMAIL% one, for example). Maybe it worth to try to set the Start in property of the Desktop/menu/QuickLauch shortcut that starts TB! to whatever is the directory of TheBat.EXE... BINGO!! Fixed for me! I just posted that it was not working - now it is and no more AV when entering dictionaries. -- Rick The Mideast Oil Crusade did more for militant Islam than Osama EVER could have. v4.0.0.17 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.0.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Spell checker - another try
On Sunday, February 3, 2008, 18:11:01, Stefan Tanurkov wrote: Hello All, I'm wondering whether those people who's experiencing problems with the spell checker are starting TB! from another directory (the %EMAIL% one, for example). Maybe it worth to try to set the Start in property of the Desktop/menu/QuickLauch shortcut that starts TB! to whatever is the directory of TheBat.EXE... Confirmed - I had the Start In directory empty in the shortcut I use Nevertheless, this is a bug, because you can't rely on the working directory being set when TB is started (eg. if I double-click a .msg file on disk while TB isn't running, it'll be started with the directory where I double-clicked the file as it's working dir). True I have XP Pro Internet apps email set to The Bat! I am trying to find a way for the resulting email client entry in my Start menu to launch The Bat! with a starting directory. No luck so far. In the meantime, I will start The Bat! from its own shortcut. -- Best regards, Jim H. Using The Bat! v4.0.0.17 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.0.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html