Re: [Vo]:Regarding Rossi and NASA (+ some Piantelli news)
Terry seZ: ... Krivit is certainly causing a reaction within Rossi. AAMOF, it appears to me that AR is on the verge of a meltdown. Do you notice a hint of desperation in AR's writings of late? LOL. I completely missed the original joke. ...er the joke is on me. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Some personal thoughts on NET Krivit
From MoB: ... This appears to me definitely as a one-sided news report, which in my opinion discredits Krivit as an unbiased objective reporter regarding the Rossi saga. Or as they say what goes around comes around. You express one of my concerns. I refer you to to my previous unsolicited advice: At present if I were to offer up some unsolicited advice to Mr. Krivit, I would suggest that he might want to take a closer look at making sure he understands the distinctions between being an investigator reporter versus that of an advocate reporter, at least insofar as those distinctions are likely to be perceived out in the public. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Some personal thoughts on NET Krivit
Jouni sez: ... And it did not cross into Krivit's mind that perhaps, Rossi had some awkward motivation to present him a dummy demonstration? Good grief! You actually wrote that as speculation about Krivit's motivations? You're obviously not a cynic! ;-) Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
[Vo]:The 7 Stages of Robot Replacement
http://www.kk.org/thetechnium/archives/2011/09/the_7_stages_of.php This guy probably has a future! ;-) Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Plug-in hybrid Prius announced
From Jed: Toyota announced a plug-in previous hybrid car will be available nationwide starting January 1, 2012. The base price is around $32,000. Battery range is greater than 20 km. I assume you meant to say Prius whereas Dragon interpreted your dictation as previous. Somehow a $32k price tag along with a whopping 20 km max range does not strike me as terribly impressive. Am I missing something vital here? In other news from Japan, the Fukushima reactors are now all cooled below 100°C. In English: http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/dy/national/T110929006221.htm I would imagine getting the temperature of contaminated water below the boiling point is indeed a good step towards recovery. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:prediction for the Oct 6 Fat Cat demo
Hi Peter, FWIW, it's been my experience that the universe seldom conforms to my anticipated calendar of events. She has a mind of her own. I do my best to remember that, particularly when I begin to notice the fact that I seem to be anticipating yet another major event coming down the pipeline. It will happen when it happens. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
[Vo]:WIRED: Cold fusion rears its head as 'E-Cat' research promises to change the world
http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2011-10/06/e-cat-cold-fusion Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:WIRED: Cold fusion rears its head as 'E-Cat' research promises to change the world
http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2011-10/06/e-cat-cold-fusion Mr. Krivit is quoted. Final paragraphs: There is some irony at work here: we apparently have a number of mainstream scientists backing an outlandish project which investors are putting money into, while the most vocal critic [Krivit, in this case] comes from the world of cold fusion. Who's right? The only way to find out will be to watch out for what Rossi does later this month. Repeating something Mr. Rothwell has recently tried to warn others about, the highly anticipated Oct. 6 Rossi test is not likely to be definitive, despite all the hype that publications like WIRED might try to imply. Most who have been closely following the Rossi saga since January have probably come to a realization that additional RD, which also translates to a massive amount of additional engineering, is needed. Granted, it makes good copy for publications like WIRED to imply that a gauntlet has now been thrown to the floor, but that does not necessarily make it so. Hopefully today's October 6 test will produce what we hope will turn out to be a good collection of reliable data that will give serious scientists and researchers what they need in order to ascertain what is happening inside Rossi's mysterious eCats, but probably not enough to satisfy a collection of self appointed critics who will continue to publish a collection of here-say and opinions of doubt meant to throw water on those findings. Meanwhile, the Widom-Larsen Theory continues to give me the appearance of escaping the same kind of scrutiny over at Krivit's NET web site. I continue find it a little odd that the WLT has a link on the front page Krivit's NET web site, whereas the Rossi Show saga has never managed to garner equivalent front page coverage. For a news organization that claims to objectively publish all the relevant news on alternative energy front, it sure seems to me as if there's a little bit of cherry picking going on here. But then, NET has always been Krivit's organization. Obviously Mr.Krivit can present anything he wants there, including in any manner and slant. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Raymond Zreick tweets translated by Google
MoB sez: ... Ok, so now the question becomes how many eMice does an eCat need to catch to produce 3.5 kW of heat ;-) I should ask my cat, Zoey. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Raymond Zreick tweets translated by Google
MoB sez: I should ask my cat, Zoey. Couldn't you ask Charm as well? You're right. I could. However I'll probably get a different answer. ;-) Then I'll have to determine who is telling the truth and who is lying. Don't want to go there. ;-) Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:NyTeknik report on October 6th test
Frank sez: Now that Jed has told me my utility pension is at risk and I have vested interests. I will have to agree there is probably something wrong with the tests. Perhaps a laser was heating it from the ceiling? ...will have to agree I can't tell if Frank is being serious or not. If Frank is not being serious, I'd say Frank has a wicked sense of humor. Well played, Frank! OTOH, if Frank was being dead serious... Well, let's just say that disliking the ramifications someone else draws should not in itself become the primary reason to decide it must therefore be wrong. Most of us try to come to terms with those kinds of hurdles during the terrible twos of our lives. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Press Release 10/10
From Defkkalion, of particular interest: Today, Hyperion engineering has completed version 7. We were surprised to see our old designs used in public testing. We were confused why our old designs were implemented wrongly, as well as witnessing insufficient use of instruments and testing protocols. We also identified confidential (yet shown in public) special instruments designed in collaboration with Rossi and prepared by Defkalion. These actions have already paved the way for more negative criticism (unworthy) against the inventor, which do not give credibility to his important work. Holy Matzo-Balls! What a mouth-full of carefully crafted diplomacy. Looks to me as if Defkalion is trying it's best to remain diplomatic and respectful to the interests of the original parties while at the same time making it very clear to all potential investors that their own engineering efforts have now exceeded the inventor's specs by several generations. So, hurry, hurry, hurry on up to the podium and plunk your money down. Time's-a-waisting! As has been speculated here before, it should not be considered a surprise that Rossi's original work could soon be improved upon, particularly when you get a lot more engineers together working on the project. But of course the fruits of Defkalion's alleged improvements (Version 7) has yet to demonstrated out in public. Perhaps by the end of October? This could get interesting. Well... I sure hope it gets interesting soon. Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Rossi T2 and Pout Charts
From Stephen: Mysterious RF oscillators with undocumented connections and functions add so much interest to the question of How It Works Has Rossi become the New Ron Stiffler? I'm inclined to think that Stephen's speculation is probably unwarranted in this particular case. As I understand it Stiffler worked pretty much in a self-imposed vacuum. I don't think Stiffler wanted help, assistance, and/or suggestions from anyone. This means Stiffler worked on his own which resulted in very little feed-back from anyone who might be able to offer up a few reality checks. Working excessively in a vacuum is a very bad idea when it comes to in'ventun stuff. I don't think that's the case with Rossi. ...and probably even less the case for Defkalion. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Look at the BIG PICTURE and you will see this is irrefutable proof
From Joe Catania: On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Joe Catania wrote: Newton's Law is irrelevant. Your the type of buffoon who believes that since there's an Ohms LAw every conductor obeys it. The temperature law the e-cat obeys is ostensibly written in the temperature data if we can consider that valid. Whether that confirms its Newton's Law or notr is not relevant to the dubunking of the CF myth. Cf is not being assumed and since it hasn't been shown we are correct in not assuming it. You still aren't able to show me the temperature data you say exists and is increasing. Ok, Mr. Catania, TIME OUT Starting to call other people derogatory names is only going to come back and bite you in the parte posteriore. Keep this up and your rhetoric will eventually come to the attention of the benevolent vortex-l dictator, Mr. Beaty, and he will most likely deal with you in any what he sees fit. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:OT - Sunday's Sermon: Peace-Of-MInd
Terry sez: You guys need to get a room. ;-) Sorry. I guess I'm too much of an exhibitionist. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Press Release 10/10
From Mark: DGT wrote: We were surprised to see our old designs used in public testing. and We also identified confidential (yet shown in public) special instruments designed in collaboration with Rossi and prepared by Defkalion. I feel a lawsuit coming on! Yeah, perhaps so. Personally, I interpret the statements as an attempt by DGT to issue a friendly suggestion to Rossi that he ought to back off. ... IOW, there will be plenty of pie for everyone, so quit yer'bellyaching. Trust us Yeah, right. ;-) Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Press Release 10/10
From Robert: More like a gun to the head - ie we think we can extract legal remedies for your revelation of our confidential materials unless you come to an agreement with us, (and we know you are running out of money and time while we can pay for lots of lawyers that will waste all of your time), but let's just keep it friendly for now. There will have been non disclosure agreements and contracts stating who owned what. I tend to agree, ...As Teddy once sed: Speak softly and carry a big stick. http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/speak-softly-and-carry-a-big-stick.html Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Look at the BIG PICTURE and you will see this is irrefutable proof
Congratulations, Mr. Catania. Further posts from you will be routed to my block list. I'm sure you could care less. I guess the feeling is mutual. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Look at the BIG PICTURE and you will see this is irrefutable proof
Terry sez: ... I'm sure you could care less. whisper: . . . not care less g, d r Really? I wuz never good at grammar. Grammatically speaking I always thought it is better form to avoid cluttering up one's literary intent with the use of double negatives. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Rossi on the placement of the thermocouple and other issues.
Rossi sez: ... A SNAKE HAS WRITTEN THAT INSEDE THE E-CAT THERE WAS DIESEL OIL TO BE BURNT………JUST LOOK AT THE WEIGHTS: AT THE END OF THE OPERATION THE E-CAT WEIGHTED SOME GRAM MORE THAT BEFORE THE OPERATION…. Diesel oil??? Good grief! Who wuz suggesting that? BTW, I luv reading Rossi's broken English reports. It is to Rossi's credit that he doesn't let a little bit of inexperience in writing in a foreign language of English get in the way. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Please stop making unsupported, physically impossible assertions about stored heat
From Hollins: jed, if the power were used to, say, run a thermoelectric heat pump, cooling one side of the pump, and heating something that was otherwise internally insulated, then heat WOULD go up after power is removed. (Just saying, if I were going to fake something, that's what I'd do. ) Pardon me for butting in for a second: It seems to me that this premise assumes that the output heat would start going up immediately AFTER the input power has been turned off. However, as best as I can tell, looking carefully at the timeline of the charts it is shown that the output heat has ALREADY been going up for several minutes prior to when the input power was been turned off. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:FW: Mills CIHT Published World Patent Application
Hi Mark, Permission to vent granted. Let me reciprocate with a few fissures of my own. Mill's BLP have often been criticized for giving the appearance of going off in too many directions, and as such, depleting their limited resources. To be honest I don't know how justified such complaints really are. Nevertheless, it's the appearance they have given to many of us who reside in the distinguished Peanut Gallery section. Perhaps BLP's BoD members would disagree, but who among us are privy to their wisdom. And now, on to a little unwarranted and scientifically baseless speculation. ;-) Looking at the continuing BLP saga from the perception of what the New Age Witch Doctor, (whom I occasionally have conversations with), it would seem they aren't very impressed with the company either. The WD doesn't seem to think much of Mills' CQM theory. Well... actually, the WD doesn't seem to think much of anyone's current CF/LENR theory, at least the current crop of them. I guess that probably includes the infamous WLT as well, but I haven't asked the WD specifically about that one. They seem to be giving me the impression that Mills' CQM theory is probably getting in the way of fundamental research, perhaps due to the theory's theoretical eccentricities. They continue: A lot more fundamental research into what is now called Dark Matter and Dark Energy is needed. Eventually, theoretical research and data collection such as what is now beginning to be collected over at CERN will start revealing the necessary evidence that will result in the need to assemble new theories that explain where Rossi's anomalous heat comes from and how best to exploit it. Apparently, there's a lot of energy worth exploiting here - enough to blow up the planet if we don't mind the store. Again, they told me Rossi's s mysterious energy comes from when matter changes state, such as from a solid to a liquid and back. It was described as something to do with changes to the external orbital shells of certain elements and alloys as they transition from different states. Don't ask me how this happens. It's all Greek to me. And now, back to traditional scientific analysis - and regularly scheduled venting. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Need a break
Horace sez: I need to take a break from this for a while. Snow line is coming down the mountains. Enjoy the encroaching sno, Horace! Have you purchased your season pass to the slopes? Come back for another round of carefully calculated skepticism at your convenience. ;-) Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:OT - formally just interesting- other FatCats in some trouble
Kindly take this stuff to Vortex-b. Hi Bog, I've said my peace. I guess one could say I've had my cup'o'java. However, in regards to your request. No. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:More drama: open letter to Christos Stremmenos from Defkalion GT
Very interesting letter indeed. Regarding the following excerpt: In all such cases, had there been close cooperation with Defkalion to develop the technology together, as opposed to focusing and putting pressure on us to receive money, many of these unfortunate legal and technical misunderstandings could have been avoided. As such, all these created serious delays for all contractual parties and for payment to be made according to our contract. You will safely recall that payment is based on the successful demonstration according to protocols and procedures that have been supplied to EFA, whose conditions have not been met yet. It may be a matter of interpretation, one mired in legal jargon no doubt, as to whether RA actually supplied ...successful demonstration according to protocols and procedures that have been supplied to EFA. Obviously DGT sez no, while I presume AR will say that he did... so where's my money. Meanwhile, I get the impression that DGT is monumentally strapped for cash. Under the circumstances they could either pay AR what he thinks is owed to him, or DGT can redirect what limited financial resources they might still have left in the piggy bank towards completing their on-going RD efforts - while simultaneously asking AR to just be a little more patient a while longer. Who's going to win this battle? I fear it won't be AR. Ya know, I'm sort of finding myself sympathizing more with DGT than with AR on this one. Don't change that channel folks! Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:OT: Pendulum Waves
Terry, Robert, I Googled lissajous patterns in my on-going efforts to educate myself. In the midst of learning about these interesting oscillating patterns I came across an obscure web site managed by an independent inventor named Jed Margolin. I stumbled across his web site because Mr. Margoliln had a link that explained lissajous patterns. Here's his home page: http://www.jmargolin.com/ Mr. Margolin's web site is not impressive in the visual sense. Lots of plan HTML text - with a few graphs and pictures sprinkled in here and there to make his point. Being an independent inventor he has also included compiled a list of patents. Scroll down and you will find links to them. Mr. Margolin's investigations and research are documented in meticulous chronological order making it easy to see how his perceptions evolved over time. Of particular interest to me were his dealings with NASA who, in Mr. Margolin's opinion, does not treat independent inventors fairly. See http://www.jmargolin.com/nasa/nasa.htm I kind'a wish Mr. Krivit would check out Mr. Margolin. This is the kind of stuff that, IMO, Krivit is often very good at - digging up obfuscated stuff and telling the story of the underdog. Alas, I don't think Mr. Margolin is into the alternate energy scene in any big way, so I suspect Mr. Krivit will probably pass on this one. * * * * * * Other interesting Margolin links. Synthetic Vision: http://www.jmargolin.com/svr/auvsi_response_index.htm Here are views of Mr. Margolin's house. I think his estate resides out in the Nevada country side. Looks like he has been able to cash in on at least some of his inventions. Looks beautiful. http://www.jmargolin.com/vch/mydriveway.htm Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Krivit report on Oct. 6 Rossi test
Regarding Mr. Krivit's Oct. 10 installment: It's a good example of what I mean when I have described Mr. Krivit as being a cynic at heart. Being a cynic is neither good, nor bad. It is how one uses their innate sense of cynicism in order to get to the bottom of a tantalizing mystery that determines whether the trait is a benefit... or a hindrance to their work. I sure appreciate Mr. Krivit being a bit more forthcoming in his own thought processes on the controversial Rossi Saga. It helps me understand why this investigative reporter remains so suspicious of Rossi's claims. I would agree with Krivit in the sense that Rossi has obfuscated the details, particularly crucial evidence that would help prove his extraordinary claims. Well, shoot! Practically everyone has been saying that... especially Mr. Rothwell. Nevertheless, what remains unanswered is whether such obfuscation was done deliberately and with forethought, or whether the obfuscation is due to the fact that Rossi continues to be sloppy in the execution of his demonstrations. While the former conclusion might still be debatable in the minds of many, I suspect few would disagree with the latter conclusion. In any case, it is becoming easier for me to understand why Mr. Krivit apparently reached a personal conclusion: that Rossi must have deliberately and with forethought intentionally obfuscated those details. The point being: when a cynic is confronted with an individual they perceive as having not been forthcoming with them it is natural for them to conclude that they are hiding something. I would imagine that the imagination of a cynic does not often paint a pretty picture of the actions of others, particularly when they have not been given permission to peek under the covers. In all honesty, at present I do not feel I am in a position to conclude as to whether Mr. Krivit's cynicism is serving him well here. I only know that there continue to be strong mitigating factors (and, apparently, strong evidence) that would seem to suggest the distinct possibility that there is something substantial to Rossi's claims. Unfortunately, Rossi continuing to document his demonstrations in a manner that causes many to conclude he has done so in a scientifically inadequate way has hindered the inventor's efforts to vindicate his controversial work, and himself. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]: Dennis Ritchie passes
What I wunder about is whether the process is enclosed in an infinite loop...
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Re: [Vo]:Thermocouple extends beyond steel nut?
From Mr. Driscoll, Rossi has done test after test poorly... Indeed, there are many will agree with this observation. ...for a reason - when will people understand this? What needs to be understood is indeed the 64 trillion dollar question - or perhaps 64 cents. Take your pick. What I've noticed, however, is that those who seem to have convinced themselves that Rossi is a fraudster they cease to become impartial in their observations. From hence forth they tend to advertise only the observations that support the premise that Rossi is a fraudster. Observations that may suggest Rossi's work might actually possess merit are conveniently ignored and/or glossed over. I honestly don't know if Rossi is the real deal or not. I obviously hope his eCats are real, but that remains to be seen. Under the circumstances, the only honorable action a person like me who realizes the simple fact that he is ignorant of all the facts can do is wait it out and see what develops. I've been learning to be patient, to accept my-ignorance-of-the-present-moment because I recall from my checkered past, when I've gone off on rants that typically end with sayings like ...when will people understand this, - it's typically it's not all the rest of the people out in the world, that I'm really trying to convince. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:More drama: open letter to Christos Stemmenos from Defkalion GT
Understanding the underlying economics of how many consumer products (like the iPad) are manufactured is going to be a difficult and soul-searching process for most Americans. This probably goes for the entire developed world as well. As is becoming obvious to most of us that care to dig a little into the matter, the dirty little secret behind why many consumer products are cheap is because they were assembled by hoards individuals who are being paid wages that are a fraction of what it would cost to assemble if they were assembled within our own affluent borders. An irony in all of this is the fact that for many of these individuals the sub-standard wages (at least from our perspective) for which they are being paid is probably better than what they could get anywhere else in their own country. This, of course, does not in any way, shape, or form condone the fact that many of these workers are being exploited in reprehensible ways by their employer, and perhaps by their own government as well. For a very long time economists and policy makers have felt obligated to grapple with the following conundrum: ONE: Should developed countries continue to assemble consumer products outside of their borders in less developed economies, in places where labor is a fraction of what it would cost if assembled domestically in order to make the products cheaper, so that in theory more of us in the developed world can afford to buy them. Or TWO... do the developed countries endeavor to rehire assembly workers within their own borders at significantly higher wagers, which in turn boosts the price of the product, which in theory means less of us in the developed countries can afford to buy them. It always seemed to be a trade off. But then, as books like Lights in The Tunnel by Martin Ford are making clear, the above age-old conundrum may soon no longer apply anymore. Advances in automation, robotics, and AI may sooner than we realize render it uneconomical to hire workers in even the cheapest underdeveloped countries - because it's cheaper to hire a robot do it. How each country's currency will continue to get evenly and fairly distributed throughout their borders (in order to keep consumer-based economies running), where more and more jobs are slowing being taken over by robots and AI systems, is going to be a major task future governments are going to have to confront head on. Refusing to grapple with it will do us all in. PS: I also read Martin Ford's book Lights in the Tunnel on my brand new iPAD2. Mr. Rothwell was the individual who first brought the book to my attention. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
[Vo]:Forbes weighs in on the controversial Rossi's eCat phenomenon
Mostly speculative http://www.forbes.com/sites/markgibbs/2011/10/17/hello-cheap-energy-hello-brave-new-world/ Mostly harmless. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Forbes weighs in on the controversial Rossi's eCat phenomenon
Mostly speculative http://www.forbes.com/sites/markgibbs/2011/10/17/hello-cheap-energy-hello-brave-new-world/ Mostly harmless. http://www.singularity.com/charts/page50.html On a related point, and after following a few links, the author, Mark Gibss, points the reader to an interesting web site The Singularity is Near where we see how advances in technology are changing the face of society more quickly (exponentially) each year. http://www.singularity.com/charts/page50.html Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Forbes weighs in on the controversial Rossi's eCat phenomenon
Mark Gibbs' article in Network World http://www.networkworld.com/columnists/2011/101411-backspin.html?page=3 ...ends with: ... It remains to be seen whether this is really all some kind of mistake, which seems unlikely, or a hoax, which seems equally implausible because, if it is all bogus, then there's no obvious upside for Rossi or any of the others involved. So, Oct. 28 will be a big day. If the demonstration goes ahead as planned either we're going to be really disappointed or we'll be on the brink of something that will change the world forever. Mark strikes me as uncharacteristically optimistic in his view of the eCat's chances. On a cautionary note, some of these recent Rossi articles are reminiscent of Dean Kamen, when he tried to introduce his Segway invention to the public. Unfortunately for Mr. Kamen the hype surrounding his project got way out of hand due to no fault of his own. I recall that some of the unwarranted speculation included stories that the inventor would soon reveal a cold fusion device of his own. Personally, I think it is ludicrous to assume Oct. 28 is the big day for humanity. The pessimist within me currently speculates that a more likely scenario will be that as Oct 28 arrives and the demo begins Rossi's 1 MW prototype may begin to experience technical difficulties. If, as Jed has speculated, the entire contraption has never been turned on before. Well Shoot! WHAT COULD GO WRONG In any case, unexpected difficulties or anomalies may eventually result in cancellation of the demo half way through the presentation. Rossi's team tries to put their best face forward by concluding that the demo was a resounding success, but that that they now need to analyze the new data before proceeding to the next step of commercialization. Hopefully, no explosions will occur, and no injuries either. We hope. As Oct 28 concludes uneventfully, disappointingly, self proclaimed skeptics will immediately clamor on-line and start gloating: See! I told you so! Nothing there!, while believers remain unfazed by the latest setback. Eventually, perhaps in another year or so, or perhaps even sooner, a new-and-improved eCat, a cat that has gone through several additional generations, (or perhaps more likely, a competitor), will slip in through the back door of the industrial market and start making inroads. Eventually, the Joe Public will begin to catch on... while Joe SixPack puzzles over why his Oil portfolio seems to be flagging a little bit. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:The style is the man himself.
Robert, You state: You [Mr. Rothwell] may disagree, and now be 100% convinced, but it's your personal attacks that are troubling. Where has Mr. Rothwell attacked you personally? As far as I can tell Mr. Rothwell has attacked your opinions - some of the conclusions and speculations you have drawn. Not you personally. With all due respect, warning Mr. Rothwell with statements, like These e-Mails are readily available to the public, and your comments to do not serve anyone well. Do not serve your opinions any better than Jed's. If you don't like having your personal opinions attacked, I would suggest you get out of the kitchen, especially since I gather you don't seem interested in performing an actual experiment, like boiling eight gallons of water in an insulated pot. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Why has Rossi to build a 1MW plant?
From Peter: He always said he /has/ to build a 1 MW plant. Why /had/ he to do this, when he had no written contract? The only explanation I can think about, is, he has to do this because he already purchased the material (without having a contract to sell it). Maybe he got the boxes in a fortunate deal on industrial ebay for almost nothing and now /has/ to sell them? Maybe he bought this when he strongly believed, he can build working ecats, but the research was unfinished at this time? Who knows The explanation I've heard (coming from a well known CF researcher) as to why Rossi intends to publicly demo a 1 MW reactor before the end of this month is for a carefully calculated commercial reason. Remember, Rossi was telling everyone he would do this October demo back in January/February. This was not an impulsive decision on Rossi's part. The reasoning being, Rossi needs to show prospective clients that his controversial technology is NOW ready for prime time exploitation. IOW, Rossi isn't interested in validating his little-understood technology within the scientific community. Rossi prefers to go straight to gates of commercial enterprise. Theory can wait. I hope for the best. I sincerely wish Rossi success in his endeavor, for we would all benefit. Nevertheless, it remains to be seen if Rossi's technology really IS ready for prime time exploitation. It would probably be prudent to prepare for some serious setbacks. As Jed has already expressed, I hope nobody gets hurt. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:The style is the man himself.
Rich sez: Wolf! Wolf! wolf? wolf... WOOF! WOOF! WOOF! Technically speaking, wolves don't woof, or bark. They howl. It is theorized that dogs acquired the unique barking characteristic as a result of thousands of years of acclimating to a cooperative symbiotic relationship with human beings. Or so the theory, sez. Prediction is an hazardous pasttime, especially about the future... Woody Allen Woody is one of my favorite comics. I need the eggs. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:The style is the man himself.
Terry sez: If wolves don't say 'Woof! Woof!', then why are they called wolves? They bark. See here: http://www.wolfcountry.net/WolfSounds.html under Yipping. Well whatdya know. I stand corrected! Those yipping sounds sound pretty much like barking to me. Mr. Murry and his bark has been vindicated. Congratulations, Mr. Murray. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:The style is the man himself.
From Robert Leguillon Mr. Rothwell never attacked me personally. He merely labeled all remaining skeptics as ignorant/blind/foolish/etc. I think that there is still room to question the results, and I'm certainly not the only one. I think that the ad hominems can stifle open communication, and I thought that they did not have place here. Now, in questioning the thermocouples, I'm apparently violating the laws of physics and without a 7th grade education. A public forum should be a safe environment from ad hominems, but maybe I misunderstood. I may not have a degree in Japanese, but I was studying quantum mechanics at Fermilab while still in high school. Nevertheless, I'll take a back seat, or get out of the kitchen if this is how you guys cook. I'm relieved that you don't perceive Mr. Rothwell's attack as having been a personal one that had been directed at you personally. I would like to hope that there is no room for ad hominem attacks within the Vort Collective. Attacking an individual's opinion is, however, another matter all together. One must either defend their chosen assessments, or else be willing to revise them - assuming additional information comes available that could result in warranting a revision. Presumably, that's what the suggestion of heating an insulated eight gallon pot of water and measuring how quickly the heated water returns to ambient temperature was supposed to address. It would seem that after having questioning the validity of the measurements of certain thermocouples that had been attached (in questionable ways) to Rossi's eCat you are complaining about the fact that your assessments speculations have been accused of violating the laws of physics. It has also been suggested that a HS student, one with a 7th grade education would understand these well-known laws of thermodynamics, for which it has been alleged you appear to be ignoring. If you chose to respond to this assessment of your assessments by complaining about how you don't like how certain Vort members are cooking your assessments, and that you will now remove yourself from the kitchen because you don't think your assessments deserve to be cooked in such a manner, I think it only makes you look more like a self-inflicted martyr to your own assessments. My two cents. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Is Rossi's 1MW demo supposed to output steam, or just hot water under 100 C?
From Jed: On a related topic I have also been under the impression that Rossi was NOT planning on producing steam as the final output product - only hot water below the temperature of 100 C. That is what he said months ago. Evidently he changed his mind. It would be rather challenging to test a hot water heater at that power level. You need a large flow of water; much more than the water mains in an ordinary office can deliver. You need something like a fire hydrant flow. This does not bode well from my POV. Granted it is conceivable that Rossi DOES have access to a fire hydrant's worth of flowing water, and running that much water through his prototype is what he intends to do - but I suspect not. It is also conceivable that Rossi was originally going to do just that - until perhaps one of his engineers sat Rossi down and ran the numbers for him. Engineer: It's impossible, Rossi! We don't have access to that much water flow. Water pressure will drop to zero for the rest of the town. ;-) Rossi: Merda! Then steam it will be! Engineer: But...! Rossi: ...Trust me! The eCat encasings can take the pressure. I know what I'm going! Or whatever... The above conversation is, of course, pure conjecture on my part. Nevertheless, what seems to concern a number of individuals is the fact that the eCat's external configuration does not appear to be designed in a manner that would adequately confine high pressure. Any kind of gas contained under high levels of pressure are typically held within thick metal encased spheres or cylindrically shaped tanks precisely because such shapes are the safest practical configurations known to man. Nothing of the sort seems to have been incorporated into Rossi's eCats, and to be honest that astonishes me. Rossi's eCats are boxy - rectangular in shape. It suggests to me that Rossi had not originally intended to run the current eCat configuration in a manner that would produce a lot of internal steam that would subsequently be held under pressure. But then, perhaps that's the point: Rossi still does not intend to maintain (or deliberately contain) high level of steam under pressure. Perhaps Rossi intends that as the steam is generated and as the steam invariably begins to expand it will immediately exit through the output pipe quickly and efficiently. If so, what remains to be seen is whether the current pluming configuration will be up to the job of making sure no high levels of internal pressure are generated. I hope nobody steps on a hose... or a pipe doesn't get accidently crinkled somewhere. In any case, choosing a boxy rectangular shape has to have introduced the potential of generating horrible stress points. Seems to me that if high pressure steam does get generated these boxy eCat configurations are potential disaster waiting to happen. I hope I'm wrong. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
[Vo]:Forbes: Mark Gibbs of Forbes follows up with a new Rossi article
Again, mostly harmless. Even a little amusing. ;-) http://www.forbes.com/sites/markgibbs/2011/10/19/end-of-world-nigh-cf-demo-could-be-postponed/ Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Forbes: Mark Gibbs of Forbes follows up with a new Rossi article
Terry sez: Again, mostly harmless. How many strikes does one get in this ball game? I'll get back to you AFTER tomorrow. ;-) Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Rossi says he has a European CE mark
From Terry: Well, is so, it is well hidden. I went here: http://www.cedirectory.com/content/ce-products.php and opened a free buyer's account and have been searching products and company names all morning. I can find no indication that his product has a CE certification. Yes, I searched his wife's company EFA srl. Does anyone know if that is the actual legal name? I hope someone over at Rossi's blog asks him point blank (politely, of course) for information on where one can access this European CE business to business certification document. One assumes it ought to now be available on-line somewhere. I think it would behoove Rossi to make sure such a claim is verifiable... but then, trying to figure out Rossi's modus operandi has often been impossible to decipher. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Rossi says he has a European CE mark
From Peter: How can you obtain a CE certification for a product just assembled, not tested thoroughly, based on an unknown reaction, not characterized- singular? Bureaucracy has its raison d'etre. Methinks Rossi has some X'plaing to do. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
[Vo]:Rossi: 1MW prototype has already been tested at full power
Andrea Rossi October 24th, 2011 at 5:08 AM Dear A. Goumy: 1- yes 2- We will work together. They have been trained 3- yes Warm Regards, A.R. A. Goumy October 24th, 2011 at 1:05 AM --- Dear Mr Rossi, It is now the run-up to the moment of truth. I wish you and your team, as you deserve it for your tenacity and your hard work, to carry out this very important test with flying colors. 1) You told us yesterday that you were testing the 1 MW plant, and it was working well. Did you test it at full power? 2) Have the customer’s agents who will perform the tests already been trained to control the plant operations, and will they do it by themselves, or will you have the entire control as in the previous tests? 3) Does the maintenance contract with the customer include updates to the new versions of E-Cats currently under development? Best regards, A.G. --- Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Rossi: 1MW prototype has already been tested at full power
From Rich: Well, I want it to be true! I hear you Rich. I hope it's true too. However, with Rossi, who knows. It may be a matter of interpretation. ;-) Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Rossi says he has a European CE mark
Jed sez: Let us think of Rossi in terms of how he would fit into the great works of literature and drama. Think of the role that would best fit his larger-than-life persona. Merlin? Prospero? John Galt? No, Rossi is playing the Road Runner, and the rest of us, collectively, are playing Wile E. Coyote. meep meep! And what's the name of the secret company working for Rossi Runner? ACME? Oh, wait a minute. Isn't that the name of the company Wile E. always special orders from? Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Rossi says he has a European CE mark
In fine print, under the directions section, pertaining to one of Wile E's special ACME orders for paint: Do not attempt to create the illusion of a tunnel. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Rossi says he has a European CE mark
About the promised videos I think is not a big deal to hire a bounch of fine dressed guys, smiling and shacking hands after the big success of the demonstration. Somebody, passing nearby of his showroom have spotted some worker (super mario bros ?) quite busy probably staging the One-Megawatt-Cat show. I also have it on high authority that the Apollo 11 moon landing was staged. We must get our information from the same sources. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Rossi: 1MW prototype has already been tested at full power
From Mr. Murray, …notable for 22 years is that not a single lab can replicate their own research to reliably demonstrate an anomaly This means cloning and in vitro fertilization must be quack science as well. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Observers at the October 6th demo.
From Sean: It's not scientific, but I've been digging into the people listed as attending the Ross ECat demo on October 6th ...and an interesting list of characters it is. Thanks Sean. Of particular interest to us Americanskian's Paul D Swanson, SPAWAR/DARPA I wonder what Mr. Swanson's report to his superiors will say. Damn! Rossi is beginning to catch up to us ? ;-) Actually, I'm not inclined to believe speculation claiming that DoD has secretly been using CF for years, if not for decades. But stranger things have turned out to be true. So who really knows. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:movin and gorven now
Frank sez: I would also like a nice woman instead of this cat who keep jumping on my laptop keyboard. While we are tweeting... Make sure she isn't allergic to cats. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Rossi's customer
My two cents: I don't doubt most of Jed's assessments and the subsequent concerns he has voiced concerning Rossi's approach. Some of the issues that have made this so frustrating for most of us has been the fact that (one) we really don't know what's going on, and (two) who is this allegedly well-know known company that Rossi has constantly alluded to. My interpretation of the pending demo would suggest, at least to me, that the 1 MW prototype is just that: Nothing more than a really BIG prototype. IOW, it's actually not ready for commercial industrial applications - at least not the current incarnation that we've seen photos and videos of. ...the point being: It appears not to have been thoroughly tested, and as such, is too dangerous. This has often lead me to speculate that what Rossi is actually trying to do is prove to prospective investor(s) that his ambitious 1 MW prototype could be commercialized if he could just get enough investors to sign on the bottom line and commit additional RD funding. While I continue to wish Ross Co. the best of luck it would probably be prudent for prospective investors to observe the prototype from a safe distance when he flips the switch. Which brings me to additional speculation - just what the hell is DGT up to? The rumor that seems to be going around these days is that DGT plans to perform some kind of a demo in November. Please correct me if I am in error on this point. When compared to Rossi, DGT has certainly behaved more like what one would expect from a corporation pursuing a secret development program. They give stingy carefully parsed press announcements - just enough wording that hopefully won't be responsible for generating unwanted rumors and baseless speculation. That certainly has not been Rossi's approach! ;-) I suspect that what DGT eventually unveils to the public will turn out to be significantly smaller in scale and ambition than Rossi's megawatt monstrosity. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
[Vo]:Speculation - Another theory that might explain the anomalous heat.
The following is pure speculation on my part: Is it possible that the anomalous heat recorded in Rossi's eCats has nothing to do with a nuclear reaction - and particularly as having anything to do with the nucleus of nickel. I'm wondering if it possible that the anomalous heat is actually due to how hydrogen in close proximity is forced to react to being atomically close to nickel atoms, where the surrounding environment is simultaneously being held at a carefully controlled high temperature. I'm wondering if it might be feasible that the anomalous heat is actually due to the rapidly fluctuating states of hydrogen as the element disassociates back and forth between molecular and mono-atomic states. I bring up this speculation due to my memory of the infamous balmer line experiment that BLP had advertised as proof that massive amounts of heat were being generated from a supply of rarified hydrogen held at near vacuum. The individual hydrogen atoms were recorded to have been in a highly excited state while being bombarded with (I believe) UV (or microwave) radiation. The point being: There appeared to have been a massive amount of anomalous heat that was being generated, far more than could be accounted for through traditional chemical means. For some inexplicable reason, I keep thinking of Fran's work. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: RE: [Vo]:FYI- greater press about the DEMO
From Peter: ... We have this already seen many times. There is definitely excess energy. Especially after the Kullander Essen Demo it was very clear that the input energy was too low to heat the water. But we also have seen errors in measurement that reduce the amout of energy and that make it possible to fake it. We have seen a lot of contradicting and definitely untrue promises. Which brings me back to my original suggestion: Let Joe Public wait and see what happens. BTW, when I previously pontificated with: When one bets, one is essentially betting on the reputation of their Ego. They are betting on an illusion that they actually know what they are talking about. In the end the amount of betting, for or against, will not matter a hoot - certainly not to one's Ego. Lately, I've had long talks with my Ego. I think my Ego (and me) are finally beginning to understand each other - particularly the fact that most of the time we are clueless. But that's ok. I had not had my morning cup of Java. I meant to say: When one bets, one is essentially betting on the reputation of their Ego. They are betting on an illusion that they actually know what they are talking about. In the end the amount of betting, for or against, will not matter a hoot. IT ONLY MATTERS TO THE EGO. Lately, I've had long talks with my Ego. I think my Ego (and me) are finally beginning to understand each other - particularly the fact that most of the time we are clueless. I think I can live with that contradiction. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Live Twitter feed by Passerini
When a new batch of books soon to be published documenting the contentious history of Cold Fusion comes out, on the front cover of one of these books will be a photo of a coffee machine... perhaps with a modified eCat on top. A few insiders will get it. Most probably won't. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Mats Lewan on Steam Quality
Terry Sez: What did I miss? My acerbic sense of humor. Heh! Specifically meant for Mr. Murray's benefit? Sorry, Mongo still a little cunfuz'd on this point. (He lost his box of candy in all the excitement.) Mongo want's to know who's currently in possession of the eCat. Cuz... maybe that's where Mongo left left his box of candy. Rossi, or the alleged anonymous customer? Inquiring Minds Wanna Know. In mutual service: Mongo Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Mats Lewan on Steam Quality
Jed sez: No idea. Thank-u Jed, It's back to the candy store for Mongo. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Mats Lewan on Steam Quality
Terry sez: ... Personally, I don't think he trucked it off since it would have taken hours to un-plumb it. Not to mention that a number of the little kittens resided on the roof of the container. And as all cat owners, of the biological configuration know, they will seek out warmth. So, if one wants to locate a missing eCat, put a GPS tracking system on your cat. Sooner or later... BTW, our recently rescued kitty, Charm, has now acquired full outdoor privileges. This has eased feline tensions within our household. It has allowed Charm to channel her teenage aggressions in a more natural way elsewhere. We have also purchased a very elaborate multi-platform cat tree that goes all the way to the ceiling. Zoey, has claimed it as hers. Defensible position. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Mats Lewan on Steam Quality
Terry sez: If there is someone in Bologna who could snoop around the Rossi building and send us some intel, that would be fantastic. Someone who is registered on his web log could just ask (except Jed :-). A famous quote from Animal House comes to mind: Dean Vernon Wormer: Put Neidermeyer on it... http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077975/quotes I'll leave it to everyone's imagination as to who Neidermeyer might be. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Mats Lewan on Steam Quality
From Stephen: (Terry, what are you talking about? Sometimes I think I understand your posts but this isn't one of them.) I believe the honorable Mr. Blanton was being sarcastic. ;-) To be honest, I wasn't sure at first as well. My excuse was that I had been highly distracted for the past couple of days while focusing my writing skills on an opus pertaining to my personal experiences at having been on the NET BoD. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Mars Transport System
The conjecture I've heard speculates that billions of years ago. Yes... not millions... but BILLIONS of years ago, when mars was significantly younger, the atmosphere may have been a lot thicker than that it is today. More atmospheric pressure in turn would have allowed liquid water to remain on the surface indefinitely. I believe it has been speculated that perhaps Mars had at one time a molten core, which in turn generated a planetary magnetic field. It is theorized that due to the shielding effect of the magnetic field the atmosphere, to a large extent, was protected from being blown away due to the harsh effects of the sun's solar wind. After the core cooled and the magnetic field dissipated there was no magnetic shield left to protect Mar's tenuous atmosphere. Over millions of years the atmosphere was gradually blown away. At present, the most prosaic theory I've heard as to whether life may have at one time flourished on the surface of Mars is that if it HAD flourished it must have done so a very long time ago. Probably more than a billion years ago, or longer. Of course, there may still be traces of bacterial life that may have managed to hang on underground where pockets of liquid water and life sustaining minerals may still exist in relative abundance. We'll just have to go there and look for ourselves! I'm game! Maybe we might be in for a big surprise. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Pipe diameter October 28 - new considerations
Following up on Jed's comments: Conjecture that Rossi has been, in a sense, indirectly obfuscating some of his own results - as if to throw the bloodhounds off of his scent trail has been discussed to some extent within the Vort Collective. I suspect there is some merit to such conjecture. It's a form of disinformation. Disinformation is used all the time in warfare, both the hot and cold kind. Businesses use disinformation to confuse and baffle their competition all the time as well, so why wouldn't Rossi avail himself to exploiting the same tactics. Under the current circumstances, particularly where control over Rossi's little-understood technology could easily be pirated, Rossi would be naive not to employ disinformation tactics. Indirectly allowing his technology to appear bogus in the eyes of the scientific community through Rossi's repeated inaction of following inadequate scientific protocols, of not generating a sufficient amount of scientific evidence, is a tactically expedient way of dealing with potential competitors. Rossi, IMHO, is not naive. Also consider the possibility that Rossi may not even have to be deliberately pursuing this kind of a disinformation campaign. The fact that it's pretty well understood that Rossi's possesses a mercurial/intuitive temperament, a temperament that often does not seem to lend itself to the rigors of following proper scientific protocol, and well... the rumor mill will take care of the rest. The result is that conjecture that Rossi might be a con artist cannot be completely overruled. Add to the fact that anyone who is inclined to be suspicious and/or cynical of the actions of others, particularly where the evidence appears to have been obfuscated - the only conclusion that would make any sense to such observers would be that Rossi must be a fake. Meanwhile, as a business venture, all Rossi really needs to accomplish is to convince prospective investors of the fact that his controversial technology, however flawed and incomplete it may be, is authentic and repeatable. If prospective investors are allowed to bring in their own trusted experts (as they appeared to have been able to do at the Oct 28 demo), and if those trusted experts come away convinced that Rossi's technology is for real, the investor will sign on the dotted line and Rossi wins. It doesn't matter one damned hoot if the scientific community, skeptics and scoffers continue to hoot and holler and scream FOUL and SCAM!. Rossi will be laughing all the way to the bank, while Rossi's investors realize the distinct possibility that they have acquired a potential competitive technological edge over their rivals. Under the circumstances, such investors are probably inclined to remain discrete. They will probably continue the charade a little while longer. They will use that time to secretly tinker away in their own RD labs in an effort to improve on the technology to the point that it can be commercialized. The question we should be asking ourselves is as follows: Is Rossi a con artist? Only Rossi's investors know. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Klaatu Barada Nikto
Jed sez: Eh? This will make it impossible to verify that the anything was given to anybody, and we'll just have to take Rossi's word for it, right? Or we can not take his word, and put this subject aside. This has no bearing at all on cold fusion. What Rossi does with his money is nobody's business but his own. Ah, quite true, Jed. However, it should be obvious to most that a favorite form of entertainment for the Vort Collective is to poke its collective noses into everyone else's personal business. ;-) Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Klaatu Barada Nikto
Jed sez: ... I see no point in speculating about people's private lives. Oh, Jed! You're such a fuddi-duddy! ;-) Sometimes I suspect that half of our nation's economy is powered by the generated methane of speculation and innuendo, as revealed at the checkout counter of every grocery store. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Klaatu Barada Nikto
Goodness gracious me! It would seem that we are scraping the bottom of the barrel to find anything to argue about. Guess there isn't any NEW news on the Rossi/eCat front. This yes, you did! - No, I didn't tit-for-tat scenario would seem from my perspective to be degenerating into another grocery store tabloid spat. What seems obvious to me is the fact that Jed get's extremely prickly at anyone who accuses him of defending Rossi, or worse, accusing him of being a Rossi Cheer Leader. Can't say I blame Jed. Personally, I would hardly go so far as to accuse Jed of being a defendant of Rossi, considering the fact that Rossi currently hates Jed's guts after Jed told Rossi that his contraption appeared to be so badly designed that there was a clear likelihood that it could explode and kill innocent bystanders. With defendants like that... ;-) However, Mr. Lawrence's perspective is not entirely without merit. I believe Mr. Rothwell has described Rossi as that of a genius, (a highly eccentric quirky old-world genius). Personally, I think I would also go so far as to defend Rossi as probably that of a genius. With that said, I think it would be a lot more interesting if we could just follow the money trail. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Klaatu Barada Nikto
Tery sez: Where IS the money. I want to SEE the money. Did Rossi get paid? I bet Rossi hasn't been paid... not yet. I just betcha! Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Klaatu Barada Nikto
From Harry: Didn't Rossi say he was going to reveal his theory around this time? What Rossi sez he's going to do... What Rossi sez he's going to sez... What Rossi sez he didn't sez... I think I' just wrote a badly written poem. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Re: Rossi: NO MORE TESTS and other stuff (revisited)
From Susan, An essential requirement to tell credible lies is to have a very good memory ... or at least to keep well up to date record of old claims and check it before writing ... Who do recall Pinocchio and his wodden nose getting longer and longer ? credible lies ? Where are you going with this line of thought? Pinocchio wants to know. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Re: Rossi: NO MORE TESTS and other stuff (revisited)
Jed sez: Rossi wrote: 3 - big problem: the patent I have not been recognized outside Italy and the theory would reveal much. This confirms what I have suspected for a long time. Rossi's biggest problem is that he does not have viable intellectual property protection. He is floundering around trying to find a way to sell his product, while protecting it with trade secrets rather than a patent. I suspect many skeptics are likely to claim that your suspicions are... how shall I put it, nothing more than making up elaborate excuses to cover up for Rossi's quirky behavior. Nevertheless, the art of disinformation should never be underestimated, both in warfare and during peace times. If I were faced with a similar rock and a hard place scenario I suspect that's what I'd do. ... Speaking of upsetting people, Steven wrote: Rossi currently hates Jed's guts after Jed told Rossi that his contraption appeared to be so badly designed that there was a clear likelihood that it could explode and kill innocent bystanders. Actually, he laughed that off. He was upset with me because I told him he does sloppy demonstrations which insult his audience. He invites distinguished scientists and then he doesn't even bother to plug in a damn SD card. That's disgraceful! Well, just in case there might be some lingering doubt on the matter, you have not upset me. It also looks like I stand corrected. Rossi doesn't like having his work described as being sloppy, or the implication that his sloppy work insults the intelligence of his audience. THAT's what pissed Rossi off. I think he has forgiven me This seems to be one of the saving graces of hot headed individuals: They blow up, but then it's over. I'd much rather have someone lose his temper and scream bloody hell at me straight at my face as compared to someone who remains dead silent. The latter are the ticking time bombs. It would be unwise to turn you back on them. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:E-Cat / philosophical remarks
From Robert Lynn The problem is that it is easy to come up with fraudulent methods that could have delivered the observed demo results. Add to which Rossi has had no end of opportunities to remove all doubt, at no extra cost in effort or materials, and without danger of loss of IP, but has chosen not to for reasons that I (and others) are unable to guess. This leads to the two hotly contested options: That's not necessarily true at all. There may be a very practical reason as to why Rossi has behaved in such an unscientifically verifiable way that naturally leads many to seriously doubt his results: http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg54430.html Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
[Vo]:PESN - Oct 8: Steorn Announces HephaHeat Oveurnity Technology
http://pesn.com/2011/11/08/9601951_Steorn_Announces_HephaHeat_Oveurnity_Technology/ Excerpt: Steorn, the Dublin, Ireland based free energy company, has announced their latest overunity technology that they have named HephaHeat. The technology produces excess energy in the form of heat, by utilizing a low frequency induction heating effect. A few pretty charts and graphics as well. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Krivit names some Rossi customer names
I think Krivit's New Energy Times web site name should be renamed to something like Krivit Investigates, or something to that effect. A title like Krivit Investigates would be a much more accurate description of what it actually is that Mr. Krivit performs. It would also be a more honorable presentation of himself to his readers. The title New Energy Times tends to give an impression to innocent/uninformed readers that NET is an organization that employs numerous investigators and journalist - like a real news room. Granted, IMO, Krivit will occasionally tap into the investigative/editorial skills of individuals he trusts, or at least thinks he can keep a handle on. Others have contributed to NET. I have contributed. However, it is clear to me, based on my own experience, as a former NET BoD, that NET is a one-man band. There is absolutely nothing wrong with writing from one's own personal POV concerning investigations into various subjects, especially controversial issues. Look at the Best Sellers list. People LOVE to read about the personal view points of others. Readers love to read about what it specifically was that they personally experienced that ultimately caused the writer to arrive at the conclusions they profess in their writings. IMO, Krivit should do something like that. I don't think it would be a breach of privacy for me to say that Krivit told me on more than one occasion that he could write a book about his personal experiences concerning the interactions he experienced with various individuals within the CF community, and the CF community itself. I think Krivit should do just that. I think Krivit would be far more in his own element if he simply revealed how various interactions he had with various individuals had personally affected his on-going evolving perceptions of them. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Physorg comments : new Krivit Crusade
Regarding Rossi, there are obviously many answered questions that remain that could either scientifically verify or refute his extraordinary claims. I don't know whether Rossi is a SCAM artist or whether he is the real deal. Let me repeat that: I DON'T KNOW!!! Granted, I have my suspicions... I suspect Rossi's mysterious eCat technology, flawed it may be, is authentic... this based primarily on the opinions I've read from competent observers who know a few things more than I. Nevertheless, my suspicions could turn out to be wrong. Under the circumstances, the best approach that I can take is simply to wait and see. Keep watching. What concerns me about what Krivit continues to blog about is that I perceive absolutely no wiggle room in the opinion he has arrive at. It would seem that from Krivit's POV, without a shadow of doubt, Rossi is a scam artist extraordinaire. I am not the only individual who has noticed this about how Krivit has been handling the Rossi affair. For Krivit, it would seem that this whole affair is turning into an outright campaign against Rossi and all the rest of the people on the planet he perceives as lining up behind Rossi. It's as if Krivit is saying: It's ME against the rest of the world. It is best to watch from a safe distance. PS: I hope Obama got a token Mars Candy Bar out of the trip. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Toyota's continuing troubles featured in Japanese news
From Terry: ... Turn the ignition off and shift to neutral if you encounter the problem. If you have a push button starter, hold the button down for over 3 seconds for a forced shutdown. Sounds like the same kind of instructions you might give someone who needs to perform an emergency power down a locked up PC. I smell an infinite loop! How interesting. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:How I made money from Cold Fusion
From Jed: Interesting! See: http://www.americasdebate.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=19469 How I Made Money from Cold Fusion QUOTES: Exclusive Article for Free Republic | 1/23/10 | Kevmo http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2435697/posts Posted on Saturday, January 23, 2010 12:28:49 PM by Kevmo Freeper gets a fascinating contract listed on Intrade, bets that the experiment will be replicated, and cashes in. In 2008, Dr. Yoshiaki Arata performed a fascinating experiment with Deuterium Gas loaded onto a Palladium matrix, and without any input power, showed that there was some excess heat. . . . Interesting, indeed. I wonder if there are similar contracts out there based on Steorn's controversial ORBO technology. Will the little spinny thing make money for someone? Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
[Vo]:CNN iReport on BLP
This is kind of interesting. I didn't realize the fact that CNN has a procedure in place to allow for independent reporting. See: http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-402579?ref=feeds%2Fhighestrated http://tinyurl.com/ykozv9z Of course you wouldn't immediately pick up on the fact that this is a CNNiREPORT based on the dsn. I love the little horizontal black disclaimer at the top of the article: NOT VETTED BY CNN Enjoy! Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
[Vo]:Bill Gates cheaper energy solution: Recycle nuclear waste
See: http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/02/17/bill.gates.nuclear/index.html?hpt=Sbin http://tinyurl.com/ybcswyg Excerpt: The Microsoft-founder-turned-philanthropist said at a recent speech in California that, more than new vaccines for AIDS or malaria or presidential selection power, what he really wants is clean energy at half its current cost. To do that, he said, we'll need new technology. Gates -- a father of the personal computer and quite the tech powerhouse -- said one of the brightest hopes for clean, cheap power is a new form of nuclear power plant that reuses waste uranium from existing nuclear reactors. Needless to say, what Bill proposes is controversial. I'd like to get Steve Jobs interested in an equivalent RD adventure. I bet Steve would counter BG's recycled power utility vision with something a bit more innovative, like a new Inukeplant where the only external outlet to the device is a series of USB ports. ;-) I'm sure the Vort Collective might have a few opinions of its own as well. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:The BLOOM BOX
From Don W.: http://www.bloomenergy.com/ http://www.ecogeek.org/content/view/411/ http://green.venturebeat.com/2010/02/19/fuel-cell-maker-bloom-energy-finally-sheds-cloak-of-mystery-this-sunday/ Google the following: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - bloom energy fuel cell - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://www.google.com/search?hl=ensource=hpq=bloom+energy+fuel+cellaq=1sxaqi=g-s1g-sx2g-s1g-sx6oq=bloomenergy Needless to say rampant blogging, both pro and con, is in full swing in regards to the legitimacy of this new technology. I hope they succeed. Inevitably a few bloggers have already speculated that certain fossil fuel energy companies will try to buy them out so that the technology can be buried - out-of-sight out-of-mind. I find such speculation to be absurd. If anything natural gas companies should be jumping up and down for glee. They will help fund it! The rampant manufacture of bloom boxes spreading across the planet like an unchecked virus is likely to guarantee a bright secure future for all natural gas companies and their share holders for decades to come. What interests me more is the likelihood that bloom boxes may help usher in a subtle shift in global consciousness as individuals, neighborhood, villages, and countries begin to realize the fact that it is no longer necessary to rely on the construction of centralized (and vulnerable to terrorism) power plants. The planet's consciousness will gradually swing towards a novel concept: That energy self-sufficiency starts in the home, and not at some massive power plant located 300 miles away. Later, as newer and even more exotic AE technologies, such as cold fusion, or BLP finally get their act in gear and start manufacturing their own devices I suspect there will be few BloomBox customers who will bat and eye and trade in their bloomboxes for an even better and cleaner (a true CO2 free) technology. I suspect it's likely that most of the developing countries, particularly those with undeveloped centralized power infrastructures in place, are likely to reap tremendous benefits from the bloombox - probably far more immediate benefits than most developed nations are likely to feel. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:The BLOOM BOX
From Terry: http://www.ecogeek.org/content/view/411/ I think Bloom Energy is looking to install 100 Kilowatt power units in everyone's houses. These will be flex-fuel, but likely running mostly on natural gas. They will also probably produce heat, and cooling, as well as power, making the devices roughly 85% efficient (thus generating two times less greenhouse gas emissions than a power plant per unit of power used.) Not very geeky considering that the mean electric power consumption for an average house is 1 kW. A 10 kW unit should be adequate. Indeed, I was also under the impression that you only need to produce 50 kw units to power most cars. American households OTOH typically need far less than 100 kw. I was told: Possibly up to 20 - 25 kw for peak performance. If this company actually does start selling 100 kw units in-mass for American household there is obviously the potential to generate a lot of excess electricity that could be fed back into the grid, a kind of collective insurance energy program that benefits the local neighborhood. As Mike Carrell once commented, it would become crucial that any excess electricity destined to be fed back into the grid be synchronized in order to avoid explosive power transmission disasters.I envision a lot of regulation will soon be in store for anyone who wishes to generate their own electricity. Soon in the works will be new rules and regulations that everyone must adhere to in order to practice safe grid procedures. It's my understanding that at present these 100 kw units cost hundreds of thousands of dollars using current manufacturing techniques.Obviously they plan on reducing current costs significantly within 5 - 10 years. They have even speculated on the possibility of being able to sell 100 kw units for a mere $3000. That's a tall order considering their current price tag. Nevertheless, necessity is the mother of invention, so I gather it's not entirely impossible. IMO, what might be a more lucrative approach would be to manufacture smaller Bloom boxes, boxes a quarter of the current size, where they only generate 25 kw at peak performance. In theory that could mean individual unit costs might be be reduced to around $1000. Very attractive! Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:OT: Science of motivation
From Harry: Career analyst Dan Pink examines the puzzle of motivation, starting with a fact that social scientists know but most managers don't: Traditional rewards aren't always as effective as we think. Listen for illuminating stories -- and maybe, a way forward. http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/dan_pink_on_motivation.html Thanks Harry, One of many hats I wear at my place of employment involves software development. Dan Pink hit it on the nail. While the concept of Fed Ex time might terrify many managers they would do well to let it be. Besides, they can later claim the fruits of Fed Ex dabbling as actually having been one of their own novel ideas - and subsequently collect a nice bonus at the end of the year. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
[Vo]:Windy Iowa
http://www.wqad.com/news/wqad-study-iowa-wind-production-growing-030310,0,5316702.story http://tinyurl.com/ycc6hu Excerpt: DES MOINES, Iowa - A new study shows wind energy production in Iowa is continuing to grow and now accounts for up to 20 percent of the state's electricity. Steve -- Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: FW: [Vo]:TIME-MOBIUS AEON replace 'TimeLineariltyAge'
Hello Jack Thanks for toning down the CAPs prose. You seem to be aware of the fact that your writing has a tendency to barrage the reader with a lot of confusing terminology - some of that terminology, I confess, I've never hear of. One needs a Harbach-O'Sullivan glossary in order to understand all the yadda-yadda stuff. However, you are aware of your short comings and that makes points in my book. Nobody is perfect! Certainly not me. As Terry has previously commented, I too have a difficult time following the flow of your logic. I hasten to add, however, that my own intellectual predilections tend to gravitate towards mythic interpretations. To compensate, I often try to communicate with my fellow colleagues by following the rules of linear oriented techno-speak in order to stay grounded. I see a lot of personal interpretation of what reality is supposed to be made up of in your prose. My perception of what you're writing strikes me less as scientific theory or hypothesis in the making, and more as modern mythic interpretations of our perceptions of reality, where you use a rich word-salad of technical terminology to couch the mysterious underpinnings of Mother Nature. I hasten to add that writing in the style of modern mythic prose is NOT in itself a bad thing. Far from it. Problems only occur when mythic interpretation (which IMHO are just as valid a perception as scientific interpretations) get confused as being a scientific interpretation. IMHO, we need... our society needs both perceptions in order to evolve. They need each other. BTW, I'm a recovering dyslexic. I constantly battle against inflicting turgid prose amongst my potential readers. Some days... some posts are better than others. You have my sympathies. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:!It's Alive!-TachyonCarrierDATA-SHEET/aka Aexo-TCW-OmniWave
Jack, Occasionally I see concepts expressed in your essays for which my limited cranial capacity has the capacity to follow, more-or-less. For example, in your latest post you mentioned the design of a simple antenna based on a fractal design... presto we end up with cell phone technology with excellent reception without having to attach a six foot long wire snaked down a pant leg. Yes, indeed, who would have figerred that one would'a werked! Over the years I've personally explored a number of celestial mechanical problems by writing computer simulations. Perhaps working at the Space Astronomy Lab at the University of Wisconsin back in the 80s helped spark my interest in the field of astro-physics, but who knows. I was already a sci-fi enthusiast long before I was hired to write computer programs at the Lab. I wrote GSE programs (Ground Support Equipment) primarily in the FORTH programming language for the purpose of analyzing telemetry received from a package that eventually flew in a couple of Space Shuttle missions. (It was called Project Astro) Let me forward to the present. I have found myself fascinated by the amount of patterns generated out of chaos introduced into the simplest of computer models, like a single satellite (a moon) orbiting a planet. Wolfram (of Mathematica fame) has already written an extensive treatise on similar subjects concerning chaos and fractals. Indeed, there is so much more research that is needed this area. I discovered interesting patterns and characteristics that I would have never perceived, let alone comprehend had I not performed extensive... and I mean EXTENSIVE computer simulations. I didn't limit my simulations to using the classic Newtonian iterative square of the distance law. Besides the classic 1/R**2 algorithms I also tried all sorts of alternative combinations including 1/r, 1/r**3, and constant forces. Each new variation introduced additional surprises and unexpected patterns. Lately, my studies into the celestial mechanics arena may be on the verge of branching into a whole new arena of exploration as I begin pondering how I would go about performing simulations based on positive and negative charges, and by association, magnetic attraction and repulsion principals. I have no idea where this new branch of exploration might eventually lead me, or truth be told, whether I'll have the cranial capacity to design the necessary code. I know it will involve a lot of trigonometry and lots of algorithms utilizing interpolation techniques. If I do succeed in writing reasonably accurate code that will allow me to explore these basic physics principals, I suspect I'll probably in for additional surprises. Lucky me! One thing I have learned in my own personal research, such as in regards to my celestial mechanics work, is that using lots of complex multi-worded omni-techno-terminology didn't help me all that much in my occasional attempts to explain to otheres what it was that I was trying to do. Other than impressing myself - because I could use lots of OMNI-scientific-like terminology, I noticed that the only individual who seemed duly impressed was me. Despite my diatribe deliberately aimed at your expense, I find myself pondering the truly profound ramifications of your last statement: Bottom line: Your 'pscyo-intuitive' cognizant pattern- recognition MIND bears much more accepting-as-relevant, with full-credence than we have been trained to recognize. It all 'fits.' DO THE MATH. Get in touch with your INNER-TESLA Ah... yeah, I think I agree with you on that one. Really! Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
[Vo]:OT (sort of): Unique Patent for trolling
Patent Acquisition and Assertion by a (Non-Inventor) First Party Against a Second Party See: http://ow.ly/1ghNr Actually, I got the above link from another interesting article: Good Artists Copy, Great Artists Steal, which describes how corporate entities both regularly and repeatedly sue each other on the technological acquisition front. With several amusing examples thrown in for good measure. http://jonathanischwartz.wordpress.com/2010/03/09/good-artists-copy-great-artists-steal/ Bon appetit! Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
[Vo]:OT (sort of): Why Wikipedia Should Be Trusted As A Breaking News Source
Title: Why Wikipedia Should Be Trusted As A Breaking News Source Begins with: Most any journalism professor, upon mention of Wikipedia, will immediately launch into a rant about how the massively collaborative online encyclopedia can't be trusted. It can, you see, be edited and altered by absolutely anyone at any moment. But how much less trustworthy is the site for breaking news than the plethora of blogs and other online news sources? ... http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/why_wikipedia_should_be_trusted_or_how_to_consume.php http://tinyurl.com/ybq3xbv The commentary concerning how the Mumbai Terror Attacks was interesting: ** ...by the end of the first day of the Wikipedia article's life, it had been edited more than 360 times, by 70 different editors referring to 28 separate sources from news outlets around the web. While this could seem like a situation rife for misdirection and misinformation, the constant discussion swirling around the creation of an article, Pantages explained, is really similar to what you would think should be in a newsroom. Nonetheless, we still disparage Wikipedia as an untrusted source of news. ** I get the feeling the same mechanisms didn't work as well in regards to the WIKI Cold Fusion article. Apples versus oranges? ...Or are they really the same thing??? But if both really are apples, why did it not work for CF but apparently did work for reporting on the Mumbai Terror Attacks? As always, there is a comments section at the end of the article where you can add your two cents. Mr. Lomax, try to keep your comments down to a page length! ;-) Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:add on: OU demonstrated ( with no secrets)
The demonstration is interesting. However, Mr. Lawrence's aversion to the accuracy of events allegedly being depicted are equally justified – especially when there just happens to be nearby a big power supply. As the old saying goes, Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice... I asked Mongo what he thought of the configuration. Of course... Light bulb! The demonstration and the demonstrator are certainly giving me the impression that more energy is being generated as output than what is being fed into the configuration. Well then... enuf to get rid of the frackin 12 volt battery, as Mr. Lawrence has already made clear??? Close the loop. ...or what are the excuses this time as to why closing the loop is not possible. For now, wishing for the best outcome, but not holding my breath. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Transporter Malfunction
Robin sez: ...I would have guessed transporter function, with the true inhabitants replaced by clones/dummies at the critical instant. The real occupants must have been important to ET, or maybe they were ET's that had occupied important positions here on Earth, but their tour of duty was up, and they were due to go home, so a convenient accident was staged to explain why they didn't turn up for work the next day. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/Project.html Robin's speculations are not all that far off from what actually happened. According to my sources, they were recalled because of failing to show up at their own hearing for... well... the most accurate translation that would make sense to us earthlings would be: A large number of overdue library books. It's my speculation that someone with extra pull eventually got pissed off that a particular book he had reserved had not been returned in a timely manner. So... to the rest of you visitors... be sure to return your books in a timely manner. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
[Vo]:Request for fusion definition
A question for the Vort Collective: Does the use of the term Fusion HAVE to imply there must exist a mechanism or process that directly overcomes the Coulomb barrier - by brute force? Could fusion also be used to explain a mechanism or process, a process that is not yet understood and as such is still being debated, processes that seem to ignore and/or completely side-step the dreaded Coulomb Barrier issue? I could be wrong on this point (and please correct me if I am) but I've gotten the impression that many if not most scientists believe fusion MUST involve a mechanism that DIRECTLY overcomes the dreaded Coulomb barrier. I'm under the impression that to come up with any other explanation or theory that attempts to introduce a mechanism that finesses its way around the dreaded CB would NOT be considered a legitimate theory. Just curious. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Request for fusion definition
From Alexander: I was under the impression that nuclear fusion means any process that fuses the nuclei of two or more atoms. ... That may indeed be the impression that many hold. It is, in fact, the impression I hold as well. Nevertheless, I'm also under the impression that many may NOT adhere to such an impression. For them any fusion theory, in order to be taken seriously, must explain how it directly overcomes the Coulomb barrier. Granted, I admit the distinct possibility that we are in danger of descending down the slipper slope of semantics! ;-) Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Request for fusion definition
From Alexander: okay, this isnt a definition of Fusion youre looking for, but a theory of how fusion works? I'm not looking for a specific theory of how fusion works. My original question was more in tune with what might be considered a sociological query: What does the term fusion define? Who owns the rights to use the term fusion within their theories? What specific ingredients must be present that will allow any theory safe-passage to commandeer the term fusion within its definition. I've wondered if in order for any and all fusion theories to be considered legitimate they must somehow show how they directly overcome the Coulomb barrier, such as by forcing their way past the Coulomb Barrier and into the nucleus of the atom via brute force, such as by thermonuclear fusion. But could the term fusion also be commandeered to explain other theoretical mechanisms? For example the utilization of Muons that Mr. Lomax mentioned. Muonic atoms are significantly smaller atomic species, and as such, make it theoretically possible to slip past the Coulomb Barrier because they remain neutrally charged during their brief life spans. I gather Mr. Lomax seems to think so. Seems like reasonable conjecture to me as well. I would imagine others might think muons, and/or possibly hydrinos (if they do exist) might be possible mechanisms as well. Two different things my friend. Indeed they are two different things. BTW, I see Mr. Lomax has followed up with a detailed explanation pertaining to various theories involving fusion. Thanks Abd. Much appreciated. I see Horace added a few thoughtful perceptions on the matter as well. Thanks Horace. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Request for fusion definition
Useful comments, Jed, The intent of my original query was to ask if there exists any kind of a perceived battle or struggle going on (subtle or not-so-subtle) pertaining to whether the use of the term, nuclear fusion, must imply a mechanism of overcoming the Coulomb barrier by some brute force procedure such as thermonuclear fusion. I'm trying to make get a clarification on whether the nuclear fusion definition could also legitimately incorporate other theoretical mechanisms, including as-yet unproven mechanisms. For example, there has been fertile debate about muonic interactions, as well as hydrinos being possibly responsible for certain LENR related phenomenon. Or does there exist significant resistance coming from somewhere, possibly coming from conservative scientific branches, that would prefer not to muddy up the so-called nuclear fusion waters by allowing alternative or exotic explanations other than mechanisms that must be capable of smashing through the Coulomb barrier. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Krivit again uses annoying trick
From Abd: ... If the value turns out to be 48 MeV instead of 24, I'm not offended at all. But I'll wonder what other products there are in sufficient quantities to explain that. In fact, if it's lower than 24, I'm not offended, it would simply indicate other reactions besides those which turn deuterium into helium are involved. There is no law that says every reaction in a CF cell must be one particular form. (And it's highly unlikely that there are *no* other reactions at all, but it's looking like they are relatively rare, by comparison.) Would you care to give your best guestamate (don't worry, I won't hold you to it) on how much is theorized to be due to d+d = He+24 MeV, and how much might be due to other processes? Incidentally, to the rest of the Vort Collective, please feel free to add your own speculations as to what these ratios or percentages might possibly be. I'm only asking for reasonable speculation. IOW, speculation is just that: Speculation. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Request for fusion definition
Jed sez: ... By rights our nation should be the proud inheritor of British culture, U.S. technology and French cooking. Somehow we ended up with British cooking, U.S. culture, and French technology. Quit bashing the French! We envy their Nuclear utility technology! 8-0 Canadians... well... Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
[Vo]:BlackLight Power, Inc. Announces First Commercial License in Europe
FYI: I'm surprised Mr. Carrell has not yet alerted us to a recent BlackLight Power announcement: BlackLight Power, Inc. Announces First [seventh over-all] Commercial License in Europe with GEOENERGIE SpA, Energy Subsidiary of Geogreen Non-Exclusive License to produce up to 750 MW of continuous power http://www.blacklightpower.com/Press%20Releases/BlackLightGeoEnergieLicenseAgreementPressReleaseFINAL032310.htm http://tinyurl.com/yduk2s9 As always, film at eleven. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:checking my understanding of Lorentz contraction
From Fran I see that Horace has already spoken definitively on the subject of shrinkage. ... ... so say I widen one dimension of the eye large enough for the basketball but keep the other dimension just wide enough for the pancake to slip through – assuming I got my orientation dead on to agree with the oncoming basketball my question becomes IS LORENTZ contraction “real” or only a “relative illusion” ? Someone with more electrical knowledge than I will hopefully reply to your question in regards to the effects attributed to LORENTS contraction. I know I can't answer it. As to the rest of this interesting thought experiment: Speaking on behalf on the basketball only... Rotating the flattened basketball 90 degrees, i.e. the flattened pancake that is traveling close to luminous speeds, so that it's shrunken dimension can conveniently pass through the eye of a deliberately elongated needle is, to me, like trying to walk forever towards a mirage of imaginary water in the middle of a desert in order to dip one's cup in the refreshing liquid. Any act of rotating the dimensions of the 3D basketball will invariably cause shrinkage to be most noticeable in the direction of maximum luminosity. IOW, one can never get the speeding flattened pancake properly rotated to accommodate its passage through the eye of the stationary needle. Your interesting conjecture strikes me more as philosophical in nature rather than scientific. Actually, it strikes me more as a clever koan. Very Zen of you, Fran! My complements. Where are my little blue pills. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:checking my understanding of Lorentz contraction
From Mr. Lawrence ... For example, if we dig a spherical chamber in the center of a planet, there will be *no* gravitational field within that chamber caused by the mass of the planet. However, the gravitational potential is lower in that chamber than it is on the surface, and clocks in the chamber will run SLOWER than clocks on the surface. ...SLOWER than clocks on the surface ??? You sure about that??? What have precise atomic clocks revealed when positioned within the deepest mine shafts of our own planet. Do they run faster or slower than atomic clocks positioned at sea-level, where the effects of gravity should in theory be greatest. Can someone refresh my memory about the precise time measurements conducted with atomic clocks positioned at different elevations on the surface of Earth. Weren't the clocks positioned at the highest elevations (mountains), where the effects of gravity were slightly less, experiencing the passage of time more quickly that their siblings positioned closer to sea-level, where gravity is slightly stronger? ...or have I got it switched around. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:checking my understanding of Lorentz contraction
From Jed: Gravity or acceleration slow down time. They are one and the same in general relativity theory. If you start with 2 atomic clocks synchronized together, and you move one up 10 m to another floor, that causes it speed up slightly, and diverge from the one below. It is amazing that they can measure such small differences in time. Of all the fundamental units, time can now be measured most precisely, which is why distance is now a function of time (1 m = distance light travels in a vacuum during the interval of 1/299,792,458 s). http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/meter.html The least satisfactory unit is the kilogram. Various new methods of defining it are now being developed. NIST and other standards agencies will eventually pick the best one. That's what I thought as well. This would seem to contradict Mr. Lawrence's previous conjecture that time within a hollowed out sphere positioned at the center of a planet would experience time more slowly than time experienced near the surface of a planet. Since the effects of gravity (i.e. acceleration) would essentially be null at the center of any planet, wouldn't time speed up relative to time being experienced at the surface? What am I missing here? Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Two arrested in Mallove murder
Terry sez: More arrests are anticipated in the case. Geeze, it was a conspiracy. As the old saying goes: It takes a village to raise a child. Likewise, I'm sure it takes an extended family to run a successful crack ring. The in-laws are always a problem. Have you watched any episodes of Breaking Bad? I must admit that I remain unconvinced that there had been a conspiracy to silence Mallove - insofar as planning to kill him. All that would have accomplished is transform Mallove into a martyr. Hypothetically speaking, if there actually had been Conspirators who wanted to destroy Mallove (and I'm not saying there weren't any) you don't accomplish that goal by killing him. The only way to destroy the individual would have been by keeping him alive while simultaneously trying to drive him crazy so that he starts saying things that are so off the wall that nobody takes him seriously anymore. You can't accomplish that by killing him. IOW, you attempt to destroy his reputation, and you need him very alive in order to accomplish that endeavor. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
[Vo]:OT (sort of) H.P. Sees a Revolution in Memory Chip
See: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/08/science/08chips.html Excerpts: PALO ALTO, Calif. — Hewlett-Packard scientists on Thursday are to report advances in the design of a new class of diminutive switches capable of replacing transistors as computer chips shrink closer to the atomic scale. ... Memristor-based systems also hold out the prospect of fashioning analog computing systems that function more like biological brains, Dr. Chua said. “Our brains are made of memristors,” he said, referring to the function of biological synapses. “We have the right stuff now to build real brains.” Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:why is this object glowing?
Someone ought to let R. Mills in on the anomaly. I bet he might be interested. Mr. Carrell! Do you still have his ear? Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
