On Tue, 20 Jun 2000, Jorge Velez wrote:
> I've got this on a weird little comp. c.'93 (can't remember
> the title offhand - something like "Techno Fever" or thereabouts...).
> It's one of my absolute fave M500's - unlike anything else Juan had done up
> till then. Anyone know how many versions ex
I posted a comment re: this book earlier today. If anyone wants to learn
what all your favorite 313 producers (and Larry Heard, Kraftwerk, and many,
many others) had to say about where they were coming from - musically and
conceptually, in their own words - back in the day, I seriously recommen
I've got this on a weird little comp. c.'93 (can't remember
the title offhand - something like "Techno Fever" or thereabouts...).
It's one of my absolute fave M500's - unlike anything else Juan had done up
till then. Anyone know how many versions exist of this track, if any?
Jorge
*
On Tue, 20 Jun 2000, Gwendal Cobert wrote:
> Talking about that...
> As I'm reading this, I'm thinking about Model500's first
> track from Mind & Body - excuse me if it has already been
> discussed here, but I wasn't a subscriber when it was released...
> well, to me this track is extremely inte
i am not very long on this list, for about 6 months now and i first was
positively surprised of the good behaviour of people posting here not
mentioning the immense amount of knowledge gathered here. but in the last few
weeks i noticed a large amount of negative aggression towards people's
o
Almost like IDM:-)
jeff
miss zak wrote:
> GEORGE.oh GEORGE?!?!? Please help this is getting intolerable. The
> filtering alone everyday is insane!Could someone please restore this list?
> The negativity and insults etc etc are just outta control
I think you really put your finger on something, Steve. There *is*
something between the sounds in analog that is missing in newer digital
recordings. Even listening to old 1930s jazz or gospel type recordings,
there seems to be something else there. The sound is sometimes terrible,
but other times
> And Leeds and Sheffield..they were too busy in London with their
> clique-y little parties!
Rare groove baby
Nick Hardie
DiscoTech
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>I've been listening to a lot of downtempo records lately-more on the
>Kyotojazz/Suzuki tip. Lately, I've been taking a break from the traditional
>techno & house and have been spending alot of time with jazz,latin
>music,jungle and trip hop.I need all the downtempo I can get right now:)
Hi Diana,
to loosely quote an article I just wrote "these two are getting more PR than
Tom Green's balls, and the rare thing is, is that these two deserve it."
-diana
From: "Stewart Fernandez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "James Matthew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <313@hyperreal.org>
Subject: Re: [313] Sandwich
GEORGE.oh GEORGE?!?!? Please help this is getting intolerable. The
filtering alone everyday is insane!Could someone please restore this list?
The negativity and insults etc etc are just outta control.
love,peace and chicken grease
misszak
" Music is the key of life, dancing is the way of t
I thought he was from Germany? He is a good DJ - in the Dave Angel mould,
tech-house, very extrovert, etc. He can beat box too! He was working on some
R&B for a while (his "first love") but is recommitted to techno now. Has cut
some good records. He had a major label album coming out (on Warner?) b
Nick,
I can't respond to your e-mail query as for some reason your address isn't
showing up on the banner (must be Yahoo). Can you e-mail me again and
include your address in the body of the e-mail?
Sorry everyone else.
Redeeming 313 content: Mills' If is blowing up in the (deep) house scene in
I think Sean (Deason) was saying his new album was on the way just the other
day? Didn't Kenny preview some of his new material at the DEMF? To those who
have heard: how is it sounding?
>Loop and Catatonic were the only singles from Metaphor, as far back as I can
>remember. By far my favourite te
dance extacy asked me to post this, it was from a
letter he got from that hughblaze dork, so i couldn't
resist. =)
--
>--- "Hugh G. Blaze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Not only are you a dumbass, but you're fucking
delusional. "Oliver never even playe
>Ya I remember reading about that years ago.
>Never heard anything else about it.
>Was it ever released (or even made)?
No not as of yet. Something may have happened but it never came out. Maybe
in the future?
Can we please refrain from the negativity? Can we not engage in debate without
name calling and belittling opposing views and tastes? I am getting tired
frankly of these recent threads. If you want to start a discussion then discuss
with intelligence and validate the points you are trying to mak
i hesitate even getting into this, but please name the
party because oliver says you're full of shit!
finally keep the lies coming, it's comical.
funny you only mentioned alexander after i did. and
you didn't even know how many people oliver used to
help him as the horrorist.
yeah i really beli
yeah it was on the big breakfest(morning tv prog here) last week also at
work a few time that i've walk through the factory they listen to radio 1
and it seems to get alot of day time play
- Original Message -
From: James Matthew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Monday, Jun
you'd belive anything, you're enept(sp)
--- FC3 Richards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i would believe her long before i believe most
> people...
>
> jeff
>
>
>
> "THOU SHALT REMEMBER THE FUNK AND KEEP IT HOLY"
> -George Clinton
>
>
>
>
you're in australia how would you know [EMAIL PROTECTED] boy?
furthermore, oliver dosen't even spin, he hasn't spun
in the last 5 years. If you're talking about bones,
(because you're so stupid you didn't even say who you
were talking about,) then you're a complete moron.
I'll just let you dig you
eaxactly, it's not like linda g(whoever the hell that
is LOL) made frankie bones.
More bullshit from biased fools.
--- "viagratek ." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >how can you respect a DJ who trainwrecks m ore then
> me.of the numerous time
> >i have seen him he has only been good twice. an
how can you respect a DJ who trainwrecks m ore then me.of the numerous time
i have seen him he has only been good twice. and i know one of the time
was
when the promoter gave him coke. i know the promoter, so you can't say that
shit ain't true. only jackasses who don't know anything about DJ
Hi,
Merci beaucoup :-))
So you speak french ? My door is widly open, anytime...
I was awaiting for a long time such reply!
Thanks for that.
I impress ! you have still the strenght to struggle...yep, ignorance kill
this world, and we need people like you to educate these kids...
You got soul.
69 - Desire also appeared on the unmixed vinyl version of the Andrea
Parker DJKicks on !k7. Sure it is easy to find and also has model
500-night drive, a cool gescom track, afrika bambaata, and a few other
treats.
-p
On Tue, 20 Jun 2000, Faust in die Luft wrote:
> this track is originally releas
>> It's pretty sad to see someone judge the quality of music by the power of
>> the bass.
>>
> Too true. We might as well all be listening to Techmaster P.E.B. @ 170db
> in a dropped mini-truck if we lived in Dance Extacy's world.
>
> **WARNING THIS CD MAY CAUSE SPEAKER DAMAGE. ULTRA LOW BASS**
I've received some email calling me on what I penned about this whole
thread. This is a long one with no bloody apologies...it IS after all a 313
list n'est ce pas? I got sumpin' to say, so delete now if yer not in the
mood.
Suffice it to say I've been called to task on proving both my valid
Hmm interesting points. When I go record shopping, I just keep to myself and
if some guy tries to sell me something, I'll just say, "ok" and continue
going thru the bins as if he didn't say anything. I know what I like/want
and I rather look for it myself. At the same time, there's nothing se
first of all - quote ppl properly. this was from someone else, not me:
I know he (Oliver Chesler) did a great job
clearing the dancefloor (in fact the whole venue) when
he played in Detroit at the "by the bridge" space two
years ago.
furthermore, i was excited to see oliver. i like his work a
first of all - quote ppl properly. this was from someone else, not me:
I know he (Oliver Chesler) did a great job
clearing the dancefloor (in fact the whole venue) when
he played in Detroit at the "by the bridge" space two
years ago.
furthermore, i was excited to see oliver. i like his work and
> In techno and drum 'n' bass, it's less overt. When I went to buy The Real
> Jaguar from a leading underground Melbourne record store the guy scoffed,
> "You mean the trance one?" Now I don't think he'd say that to a guy somehow.
it has happened to me so many times, that i walk into a record s
I used to work with four track reel-to-reel recording shit off of a
Sequential Circuits Pro-One. Condensing tracks using two four tracks,
splicing, cutting...making mistakes and finding that they sound better than
your original intention. Love that "old" stuff.
Fred
From: c myster <[EMAIL P
I think there is definatly something very profound about the analogue sound of
real to real as opposed to ADAT. When you record digitally every millisecond
of time is accounted for and everything inbetween doesn't exsist. When you use
tape, there exsists another dimension of time. Inbetween each
Check out the roster on DeepChord records..it's Detroit, it clicks, and it
knows how to go deep. www.deepchord.com
Fred
From: "Gwendal Cobert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Subject: RE: [313] Old recording techniques...
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 10:37:36 +0200
> I'd rather listen
Well, thanks to Dave Siska et. al. I've got a radio show timeslot back
for the summer months. Chicago listeners can tune in Mondays 10-11pm to
WNUR 89.3fm. Or web listeners check out http://www.wnur.org for a stream
during showtime.
(blue)Monday June 19th, 10-11pm
Theo Parrish - Summertime is
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 20:23:52 +0100
From: "Nick Hardie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Detroit, London, er Manchester
I find it interesting that you chose London as the UK city to compare =
with
Detroit, while Manchester holds just as important a place in UK / =
European
culture and has more in
Talking about that...
As I'm reading this, I'm thinking about Model500's first
track from Mind & Body - excuse me if it has already been
discussed here, but I wasn't a subscriber when it was released...
well, to me this track is extremely interesting, feels like
Atkins has been listening a lot t
nope that was the original mix...stacey just played it over the end of
another track.
what's with that tune getting pulled out again...i've heard it 4 times since
DEMF...wicked.
pw
In a message dated 6/19/00 7:46:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>I'm not sure if that's it. I used to have it
The Yardbirds may have beaten the Beatles to the punch, and Brian Williams
get's into the mix with Pet Sounds.
Hate to be a stickler, but it's "Brian Wilson".
Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hot
on 6/20/00 9:56 AM, Nathan DeYonker at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 2) Derek Plaslaiko ended his intense acid workout at DEMF with The Beatles
> "Taxman" from Revolver, which is I suppose the first "acid" record that I
> own. Do people that know a lot about rock n roll consider Revolver to be
> the
It appears my comments have been taken the wrong way, I do aplogise if I made
myself less than
clear...(sorry Fred!).
I was not for a moment suggesting that we ignore the huge debt owed by all of
us to ethnic
communities around the world for the inhumane treatment they have been subject
to.
What tape hiss is concerned: this one Belgian producer, Dj Valium aka Val
usually copies his new tracks on really lousy tapes from a cheap supermarket
before re-recording them...
He's a bit crazy, but a fun guy and he already released on labels such as
Teknotica and Int. Dj Gigolo's.
John
-
on 6/20/00 4:37 AM, Gwendal Cobert at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> I'd rather listen to lo-fi tracks with tape hiss, tracks that
>> have emotion
>> and trying, than to listen to these clinical super produced
>> 909-kick tracks.
> Talking about which... I know these two are not Detroit artists, but
> 2) Derek Plaslaiko ended his intense acid workout at DEMF
> with The Beatles
> "Taxman" from Revolver, which is I suppose the first "acid"
> record that I
> own. Do people that know a lot about rock n roll consider
> Revolver to be
> the first acid record? Pretty clever of Derek eh? Was anyone
>
Nathan DeYonker wrote:
>
>
> 3) The Sound Stream record that people were talking about is in my opinion
> the most freaked out house 12" i've maybe ever heard. Someone was saying
> there were Sound-Hack? records that have the same sound and might be the
> same artist or artists. Can someone give
Jongsma, K.J. wrote:
>
>
> > Yeh - you're talking out of your ass (that's as diplomatic as
> > I can be!)
>
> Hmmm one of the rules for starting a flame war is to insult people or the
> use of sarcasm, just a tought... The internet is a great way to exchange
> information but reply-ing with an e
Klaas-Jan said,
Hmmm one of the rules for starting a flame war is to insult people or the
use of sarcasm, just a tought... The internet is a great way to exchange
information but reply-ing with an e-mail like this is not spreading
information. There is no information found in these kind of replie
And while on the topic of May's non-existent output... Does anyone remember
a Jockey Slut interview with him where he says he would be releasing an
album of "the future of techno" done by Mr. May and Ken Ishii? My young
impressionable mind was quite dissapointed in the outcome of that little
far
From: c myster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [313] Old recording techniques...
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 01:37:29 -0500
What impresses me is the attention to Detail.
Derrick would would actually Splice peices of tape and
insert it backwards to give it that backspin sound.
I think they're both very different albums reflecting
the diversity of the detroit sound. They both share
similarities between them but the definition of
"detroit" electronic music is kinda loose. I know what
I like tho...:)
I couldn't put early Red Planet stuff and D.May's
stuff in the same set.
Sean Creen wrote:
> Turlough Murphy wrote:
>
> > I don't think that the "Innovator" comp. is a patch on the
> Red Planet album.
> > Sure it has good tracks but some of it sounds very dodgy
> now (that's as
> > diplomatic as I can be).
> >
> > Any thoughts??
Keep in mind that most Red Pl
on 6/20/00 6:25 AM, Seth electricpress at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> I think this is one I should already know...
> I need a track I.D. it's on a Voodoo tape from around '96 -nice string
> lines, very detroity. Deep, slightly vocodered, voice saying something:
>
> computers are the futureworld,
>
Turlough Murphy wrote:
> I don't think that the "Innovator" comp. is a patch on the Red Planet album.
> Sure it has good tracks but some of it sounds very dodgy now (that's as
> diplomatic as I can be).
>
> Any thoughts??
>
Yeh - you're talking out of your ass (that's as diplomatic as I
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
"I'd rather listen to Red Planet or "Innovator" than almost anything
else made in the electronic genre, up to and including today, because
it still sounds fresh and energetic, not to mention tremendously deep."
I don't think that the "Innovator" comp. is a patch on th
slight correction, euh hi John :-)
http://www.djax.nl
Pieter
extremely hot weather in Amsterdam ;-(
Pieter Lub
Universiteitsbibliotheek Amsterdam / Amsterdam University Library
Interbibliothecair Leenverkeer / Inter Library Loan
Postbus 19185
Yeah it is indeed a really nice book, beautiful pictures, nice Artwork. But
the cd is kinda a lame. Espescially the trax from Miss Djax herself are not
interesting at all.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Verzonden: dinsdag
It's the history of ten years Djax-Up, with lots of artwork ( a lot by a
certain mister Alan D Oldham..:), lots of pictures, info about artists etc.
also a lot on the sublabels of Djax-Up. The book is mainly an artwork kinda
thing, but it's done extremey nice!
Djax has an extremely nice website, y
> So, I never got an answer about Shake's "Mr. Shakir's Beat Shop" - how
> does it compare to the downtempo tracks on his Frictional 12"s?
Well, I didn't buy it, though it is an interesting record. It's basically
lots of short drum tracks done in Shake's usual individual style, but there
are no fu
Peter:
> Did I miss something or has no one mentioned this booK?
>
> I found it to be a very cool item... comes with a CD, too.
What's it about? Who's it written by?
Tom
Right... last track ID's from me... ohmigod
but I've just got to get these tracks.
All are in Kevin Saunderson's first mix:
http://proto.groovetech.com/mk-demf.rxml?file=/demf/mainstage/day3/demfstage
day3-kevinsaunderson.rm
1) 15 mins in. Deep luscious track which is continually building up and
What impresses me is the attention to Detail.
Derrick would would actually Splice peices of tape and
insert it backwards to give it that backspin sound. If you've worked
with
Linear analog tape or even fixing old eaten cassette tapes, you can
respect the
amount of tedious time that went into
I think this is one I should already know...
I need a track I.D. it's on a Voodoo tape from around '96 -nice string
lines, very detroity. Deep, slightly vocodered, voice saying something:
computers are the futureworld,
we play em for the boys and girls,
theres nothing we dont understan
"these music styles, BECAUSE they are black art forms had to be imported
BACK to us from overseas"
As has already been said, nothing is original. Techno developed from major
influences from other cities and artists (Black and White) So did Drum and
Bass. I agree...The history is important, par
This happens too often when I go down to Leeds on a
Saturday. Some of the guys in there listen to the same
tracks again and again!! I waited for half an hour
before a turntable was free... I spose you don't think
about anyone else tho once you put those headphones
on... record stores are another wo
Gabriel Le Mar and Michael Kohlbecker also go under
the guise Montauk P and along with Alex Azary release
stuff under the name Saafi Brothers. Production by
both of these guises are on the Blue Room label
(famous for releases by legendary goa trancers Total
Eclipse, Koxbox and Juno Reactor). I s'po
> Plus 8 Classics v1: '90-92 - plus8071cd - enhanced cd - september
> Plus 8 Classics v2: '93-94 - plus8073cd - enhanced cd - october
> Plus 8 Classics v3: '94-97 - plus8075cd - enhanced cd - november
I love it when these labels do something for younger techno fans eager to
catch up...
Gwendal
> I'd rather listen to lo-fi tracks with tape hiss, tracks that
> have emotion
> and trying, than to listen to these clinical super produced
> 909-kick tracks.
Talking about which... I know these two are not Detroit artists, but are
there any Detroit artists doing such a great and interesting job
> without making a purchase. If you want to listen to stuff
> without buying
> anything do it online...don't bother the person behind the
> counter because
> most likely he/she has to put back that big pile o'wax.
which prevents you from discovering great music from the advice of the very
pretty gi
> >but going to a record shop, picking up a stack o' wax and just listening
> >all day is priceless.
>
> I've heard directly from shop workers about people who do this though,
that
> is, those who listen without buying anything. They hate them. There's not
a
> faster way of pissing them off than gr
how can you respect a DJ who trainwrecks m ore then me.of the numerous time
i have seen him he has only been good twice. and i know one of the time was
when the promoter gave him coke. i know the promoter, so you can't say that
shit ain't true. only jackasses who don't know anything about DJing l
Did I miss something or has no one mentioned this booK?
I found it to be a very cool item... comes with a CD, too.
Keep up the good work, Saskia
/Peter
{Ducks to avoid flying tomatoes from one Alan Old-ham} :o)
don't forget the first LP from Rajko Müller "Rest" out
now on Playhouse.
peace u f
-- FRED MCMURRY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Re:
> >Also.. _please_ listen to Isolee, however not
> related directly to detroit
> >style, these guys or guy or girl (any info anyone?)
> are essentiallly the
> >autec
When was "Bounce your body to the box" made?
You can tell it's older but not exactly how much.
That side (of planet E release) along with "You don't know how to play
our music"
both just JACK. Circa early nineties maybe, or older?
He definitely utilizes his instruments to the max.
>Thats wha
>I've got a copy of it sitting in my hot little hands right now. It's been
>available in Australia for a couple of weeks now. It's pretty good
>actually. Very good coverage of all the 313 artists.
yep it is very good. i was a little surprised to find things like
leftfield and the prodigy still in
>I invite anyone to see his show. People like bones,
>beltram and many many others give him mass respect for
>his lively non dat shows. Call sonic groove and ask if
>you don't belive me. People know he's 100% fucking
>live and wicked. In fact he's probably the best live
>p.a. the last 2 years.
ye
paging mr. george smiley. This list could really use your help right
now. A few people need to be kicked off this list...and there are what
looks like 2 addresses that are probably the same person.
On a 313 topic...does anyone know who did that record on KMS by The
Closer? It's real nice...both
First of all, who in their right mind would buy records from this
arsehole "danceextacy"? I know where you can put the records, gabberboy.
Secondly, where is the moderator? anyone?
Last- this shite is getting real old!
If you don't like detroit techno, get off the list, very simple.
Dissing D.Ma
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Just in case anybody cares:
Jay Denham will be available to play in the U.S. from August 17th to Sept.
6th (except for Aug. 26th). For bookings contact D.G. Hubbard, Jr. at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] or call 616-342-5594 .
Best regards,
D.G.
___
From: FRED MCMURRY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 313@hyperreal.org <313@hyperreal.org>
Date: Monday, June 19, 2000 9:21 PM
Subject: [313] downtempo for diana
>YOKOTA, Susumu: Mix EP (Leaf)
Has anyone heard/have this? I love his stuff, including/especially the
downtempo offerings. His "Cat, Mouse and
Phonopsia wrote:
>
> For that matter, check out DJ Marathon's set at DEMF. Although I missed it
> when I was there, it holds up quite nicely at groovetech
Thanks! I appreciate the compliment. One thing, and I'm sure it'll sound
pedantic: I use my own name (Bill VanLoo) for my original music - dj
>Just goes to show you: sweeping generalizations
about genres are never legit.
Yeah, like seeing derrick may in 95 was a lot of fun.
Talk about dead dat. What a joke. LOL
>Too bad Mr. Chesler foud performing a live p.a. "too
>hard."
Too bad you can't spell found, kiddie. And you're just
another
Batory, Jason wrote:
>
> Whats happening with the t-shirt?
>
> We gonna have a vote?
>
> Respect
> JasonB
hi,
as i had written;
> --
>
> Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 12:46:28 -0400
> To: 313@hyperreal.org
> From: Eric Iverson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: t-shirts - mor
>--- detroit science <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote: >I know he (Oliver Chesler) did a great job
clearing the dancefloor (in fact the whole venue) when
he played in Detroit at the "by the bridge" space two
>years ago.
First of all that's the biggest load of shit i believe
i've ever read. You can get pe
I'd email you directly but I trashed your mail by accident...
More jazz/downtempo stuff I've just heard from The Dance Music Resource
Pages (it's in the UK but should be available in the US soon if not
already):
MARASMA: On Time (DB Low)
BAYAKA: Salia (Flower Japan) has good Latin shuffle
LO
Yah! I want to know what's up with the shirt! I'm going to WEMF and I bet
lots of you are also and I'd LOVE to meet some of y'all :) (Super excited,
but managing to contain it :)
Lata,
+|~Christine~|+
Isn't Bill Laswell another person originally from Ann Arbor?
He's done some pretty interesting downtempo stuff (as well as some pretty
ordinary stuff too). The 2nd CD on that Axiom Dub compilation has been in my
player a lot this past week - been addicted to that Mad Professor track.
chris
Whats happening with the t-shirt?
We gonna have a vote?
Respect
JasonB
Dude..
Anyone who's into hip-hop has gotta be a loser anyway.
Was that really called for? Don't diss the music just because you disagree
with the person. The two are unrelated.
Wise up.
Fred
From: d main <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [313] oliver chesler/"summer'
RE:
but going to a record shop, picking up a stack o' wax and just listening
all day is priceless.
I've heard directly from shop workers about people who do this though, that
is, those who listen without buying anything. They hate them. There's not a
faster way of pissing them off than grabbi
Re:
Yes, I agree that the most influential techno (and house) has come from
black artists, but who gives a fuck?
Well, I'd say Black Nation records (Kalamazoo, Michigan) do...with track
titles like
Interstellar Slavery
Fear Of My Own Brother
Fuck The Police
I Dont Hate You
Racial Lines
Black
Forthcoming Plus8 & Minus releases (and re-releases) that represent
the re-emergence of Plus8
. Theorem vs Stewart Walker on Minus thx3 - 12" - out now
. Minus Mousepad on Minus 6 - out now
. PK - s/t on minus 2 - limited 12" - out now
. Electric Deluxe - plus8072 - 12" - out now
. Minus Yel
>--- detroit science <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote: >I know he (Oliver Chesler) did a great job
clearing the dancefloor (in fact the whole venue) when
he played in Detroit at the "by the bridge" space two
>years ago.
First of all that's the biggest load of shit i believe
i've ever read. You can get pe
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