What is it with covers of Detroit tracks in recent months?
Just listening to last week's Gilles Peterson show and heard a white label
cover of 'Jaguar' by 100 Birds from Japan. Don't know anything about them,
but they've managed to make it even more disco! I am not sure I'd rush out
and buy it,
On 10/21/07, Nik Stoltzman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What is it with covers of Detroit tracks in recent months?
Just listening to last week's Gilles Peterson show and heard a white label
cover of 'Jaguar' by 100 Birds from Japan. Don't know anything about them,
but they've managed to make it
Heh heh. I dunno why but I just assumed it was a new release. Thanks for the
info.
OK... move along folks, nothing to see here :)
N
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From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 21 October 2007 20:22
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Jaguar cover
http://www.sonar.es/mp3/francoisk/fk12.m3u
Thank you Mario for the link, but does anyone know how to play this file?
When I open it in WinAmp v2.24 nothing happens. Maybe I need a certain
plug-in or something?
Thanks,
Maarten
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From: Maarten Baute [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mario Atienza [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2003 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: (313) Jaguar - A Hundred Birds Remix
http://www.sonar.es/mp3/francoisk/fk12.m3u
Thank you Mario for the link
From Francois K. - Live at Sonar :
http://www.sonar.es/mp3/francoisk/fk12.m3u
Track-List :
01 :: Syphon Trapped Wave Music
02 :: Basic Channel Q1.1 Basic Channel
03 :: Floppy Sounds Loop 1 Wave Music
04 :: Rue East Birmingham - Surgeon Rmx Pure Plastic
05 :: Los Hermanos Son Dos UR
06 ::
passed along by a friend who was banned from 313 (ohh i hang with the
bad element):
J.T, report to me after school, I'm going to have to phone your parents
about this.
you're looking at a long stretch on 'report'.
and I didn't know you can get 'banned'! who's the axeman??!!!
big
and I didn't know you can get 'banned'! who's the axeman??!!!
us...
several people complained about the person who passed me the jaguar live
info, because she stepped on their ego's or wasn't polite enough or
something. she said some controversial stuff but iis a music biz insider and
had
where did stevepwats go...?
ha ha! I was just thinking that as well..
it was fun when he was here..
_
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J. T. wrote:
and I didn't know you can get 'banned'! who's the axeman??!!!
us...
several people complained about the person who passed me the jaguar
live info, because she stepped on their ego's or wasn't polite enough
or something. she said some controversial stuff but iis a music biz
passed along by a friend who was banned from 313 (ohh i hang with the
bad element):
A Hundred Birds has recorded a live version of the much talked-about
Jaguar by The Aztec Mystic (from the Knights of the Jaguar EP). Detroit
Techno revisited by live strings orchestra
to hear a distinguished law professor admit that.
At 09:56 AM 8/5/2003 +0100, Ryan Snowden wrote:
Mark All as Read
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i guess that's the same as many areas of law
on 6/8/03 4:10 PM, James Hurlbut at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I recently went to a talk by Stanford Law Professor and media critic
Lawrence Lessig where he said that in terms of practical real world
copyright law as it is being applied these
-- Original Message --
From: Jernej Marusic [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Well from listening to this strings for a couple of times, I can
tell that
at the beginning they start the same as jaguar but than it gets
different
really quickly. Than at another point there's
no one has mentioned the possibility that they both sampled
strings from the same source and then flipped them differently.
obviously this house track was made during a period of sample
heavy marrs/coldcut influenced stuff. so its entirely possible the
strings are from an old song and that they
On Monday, August 4, 2003, at 06:23 PM, Matt MacQueen wrote:
no one has mentioned the possibility that they both sampled
strings from the same source and then flipped them differently.
obviously this house track was made during a period of sample
heavy marrs/coldcut influenced stuff. so its
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 12:23 AM
Subject: Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?
no one has mentioned the possibility that they both sampled
strings from the same source
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Subject: Re: (313) Jaguar
Strings
so let me get all of this correct...according to everyone here on
this list the general opinion is that UR and rolando sampled this TCOY
track and did not make it them selfs.man with all of the
bullshit that surrounded the jaguar you think someone else would have
dug this up if it
williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313 list 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 7:48 PM
Subject: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?
My friend Rich found this:
http://www.psychiatry.uiowa.edu/~kent/Carino-TCOY.mp3
Listen to the string synth at the beginning, contrast and compare
my thoughts exactly...
peace
On Monday, August 4, 2003, at 07:06 PM, MM wrote:
so let me get all of this correct...according to everyone here on
this list the general opinion is that UR and rolando sampled this TCOY
track and did not make it them selfs.man with all of the
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313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Jaguar
Strings on 80s House record
Here's an excerpt of the sweet D track :
http://www.kiddyraver.com/sweetd.ram
Its close, but not the same either.
- KiDD*e*
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Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 2:08 AM
Subject: Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s
:
Subject: Re: (313) Jaguar
Strings on 80s House record?
08/04/03 07:49 PM
Please respond to
KiDDy*RaVeR
Subject: Re: (313) Jaguar
Strings on 80s House record
bars or 10 seconds or any part of another
song.
MEK
Kent williams
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Subject: Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?
Damn where do I start with this -
you need to learn a bit more about copyright issues, sampling and music
law, and fair use:
http://www.music-law.com/sampling.html
There is also a rumor going around that you can use four notes of any
song
, August 04, 2003 8:08 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?
Hate to disagree, but it actually seems obvious to me that the Jaguar
strings weren't sampled from this. For a start off, as I believe someone
observed, there would need
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Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?
so let me get all of this correct...according to everyone here on
this list the general opinion is that UR and rolando sampled this TCOY
track and did not make
-- Original Message --
From: Matt MacQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I mean, go dig out Jaguar again and tell me that's a sample...
IMHO
there is no way. Have you ever tried to sample stuff and use it
in a
track? There's extraordinary difficulty in finding a
-- Original Message --
From: MM [EMAIL PROTECTED]
now after talking about
it for a bit and realizing thati would find it REAL hard that
it
could be sampled knowing how important the record was to
rolando
thats all i am saying .
now youre
I mean, go dig out Jaguar again and tell me that's a sample...
IMHO there is no way. Have you ever tried to sample stuff and use it
in a
track? There's extraordinary difficulty in finding a clean
enough
version of that string part of the track to be able to sample it
and
make Jaguar
On Mon, 4 Aug 2003, Kent williams wrote:
My friend Rich found this:
http://www.psychiatry.uiowa.edu/~kent/Carino-TCOY.mp3
Listen to the string synth at the beginning, contrast and compare with
synth strings in Night of the Jaguar
Doesn't the piano there sound just like SL2's Changing
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Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 2:27 AM
Subject: Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?
I mean, go dig out Jaguar again and tell me
I mean, go dig out Jaguar again and tell me that's a sample... IMHO
there is no way. Have you ever tried to sample stuff and
use it in a
track? There's extraordinary difficulty in finding a clean enough
version of that string part of the track to be able to sample it and
make
the jungle producer adam f replayed a big chuck of a bob james
track (nautilus i think it was) and turned it into a jungle tune
that got released on a major and AFAIK didnt get sample clearance.
Hmm. I can't believe that - big labels are usually pretty weary of things
like that - even if the
Mark All as Read
|-Original Message-
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|Sent: 05 August 2003 08:53
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|Subject: Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?
|
|
| the jungle producer adam f replayed a big chuck of a bob james
| track (nautilus i
Yes I remember them 'Tell me how it Feels'
Mind you there were a couple of nice 'pop house' tracks on the first
M-People record.
Yes give the man a break he virtualy brought House Music to the Hacienda way
back...and possibly opened many a door to the UK dance scene, expecially in
the North
Yeah wasn't he also behind Quando Quango?
if so - the man's a genius
rc
on 5/8/03 8:03 PM, Mann, Ravinder [CCS] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes I remember them 'Tell me how it Feels'
Mind you there were a couple of nice 'pop house' tracks on the first
M-People record.
Yes
Yeah wasn't he also behind Quando Quango?
if so - the man's a genius
i found this interesting:
http://www.cerysmatic.clara.net/Factory/index.html?quando.html
and this:
http://www.discogs.com/~hillegonda
robin...
)
Goldie and many others
So yes the man has paid his dues and still dj/produces maybe.
-Original Message-
From: Rc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05 August 2003 11:12
To: 313
Subject: Re: (313) Jaguar/Mike Pickering
Yeah wasn't he also behind Quando Quango?
if so - the man's a genius
Yeah wasn't he also behind Quando Quango?
if so - the man's a genius
yes, and I forgot to mention that!
not sure if he played sax or actually did production/writing.
also, did he have something to do with section 25 maybe as well?
but I'm not sure of that. Maybe that was just a collaboration?
thinking about it why the hell are we on a 313 list when we should be on a
0161 list
:)
robin...
ps. listening to a greg wilson mix from 83 that backs the above statement
up too
Yeah wasn't he also behind Quando Quango?
if so - the man's a genius
yes, and I forgot to mention that!
not
thinking about it why the hell are we on a 313 list when we should be on a
0161 list
heh!
because
a) everyone would be bitchin about each other! he's a joker, he's a one
track wonder, he wouldn't know a good track if it poked him in the eye!
their records are always too fast, they got no soul
thinking about it why the hell are we on a 313 list when we should be on a
0161 list
heh!
because
a) everyone would be bitchin about each other! he's a joker, he's a one
track wonder, he wouldn't know a good track if it poked him in the eye!
their records are always too fast, they got no
My friend Rich found this:
http://www.psychiatry.uiowa.edu/~kent/Carino-TCOY.mp3
Listen to the string synth at the beginning, contrast and compare with
synth strings in Night of the Jaguar
Well they use the same (Oberheim?) synth for sure, but that is where
the comparison ends i think?
KJ
On maandag, aug 4, 2003, at 19:48 Europe/Amsterdam, Kent williams wrote:
My friend Rich found this:
http://www.psychiatry.uiowa.edu/~kent/Carino-TCOY.mp3
Listen to the string synth at the
|-Original Message-
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|
|
|Well they use the same (Oberheim?) synth for sure, but that is where
|the comparison ends i think?
|
maybe if you're tone-deaf :) in two distinct places, the melody is,
note-by-note, an excact copy. that being
:
08/04/03 01:08 PMSubject: Re: (313) Jaguar
Strings on 80s House record
: RE: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?
I agree totally :)
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From: Christian Bloch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 04 August 2003 19:03
To: '313 list'
Subject: RE: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?
|-Original Message-
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cc:
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Strings on 80s House record
- Original Message -
From: Kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313 list 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 6:48 PM
Subject: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?
My friend Rich found this:
http://www.psychiatry.uiowa.edu/~kent/Carino-TCOY.mp3
Listen to the string
On maandag, aug 4, 2003, at 20:08 Europe/Amsterdam, Kent williams wrote:
It also is note for note the same as the beginning couple of bars of
the
strings in Jaguar ... just interesting to compare.
Oh sure but i think that it so more a coincident, i once got accused by
someone for copying a
Do the strings appear by themselves in the original house tune?
_Dave
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Subject: Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 13:37:28 -0500
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I think most musicologists
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Subject: Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?
You're kidding right? A coincidence? Everything in that string bit is in
Jaguar -even how the notes waver before the descending notes come in.
This more than sounds a lot like
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Mon, 4 Aug 2003 about following:
most likely get sued in turn if Eric B Rakim knew about it. So, I'm sure
the producer of Carino, if they are alive still, are keeping real quiet and
it's mike pickering if my memory serves right. (better known also as
part of
KJ wrote:
It also is note for note the same as the beginning couple of bars of
the strings in Jaguar ... just interesting to compare.
Oh sure but I think that it's more a coincidence, I once got accused by
someone for copying a melody from a Joy Division record once. I never
realized it
The Billyjean bassline is from Billy Oceans Carribean Queen BTW :^)
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To: Kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313 list 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 1:37 PM
Subject: Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?
I think
http://www.psychiatry.uiowa.edu/~kent/Carino-TCOY.mp3
Listen to the string synth at the beginning, contrast and compare with
synth strings in Night of the Jaguar
You know after listening to this twice I think they're similar in sound
and some but not so much so that one was a note by note
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Sent: 4. avgust 2003 23:08
To: Klaas-Jan Jongsma
Cc: 313 list; Kent williams
Subject: Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?
You're kidding right? A coincidence? Everything in that
string bit
: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 16:08:14 -0500
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You're kidding right? A coincidence? Everything in that string bit is in
Jaguar -even how the notes waver before the descending notes come in.
This more
The remix of Jaguar by A Hundred Birds is very usual in Francois K Sets.
It's a promo but forever ? Any suggestion ?
Mario
Haven't heard this one, but their new 12 on Wave 'Georgia' is HOT. Does
anyone out there have any
info on the Jaguar remix (or have a copy they wish
to sell ?)
Chris.
The remix of Jaguar by A Hundred Birds is very usual in Francois K Sets.
It's a promo but forever ? Any suggestion ?
You can find it on CD ROM video, on Part 2 of the 430 West CD single
version (430WUKTCD2), which also has the May Octave One remixes.
Well worth seeking out.
On Thu, 9 May 2002, Giles Dickerson wrote:
What kind of visual representation did Jaguar get, was there an official
video?
- Giles
Nico AWTSVENTIN is an anagram of Vincent WATSON, so
I'd say they're one and the same.
Vince Watson's music definitely has roots in detroit. The lush strings
and pads of his releases on ALOLA (UK) remind me of Derrick May. I
haven't heard the song in question, but it wouldn't surrise me if it
--- Wibo Lammerts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote: Nico AWTSVENTIN, Isn't this Vince Watson
Nico AWTSVENTIN is an anagram of Vincent WATSON, so
I'd say they're one and the same.
Cheers
sens
_
Nico AWTSVENTIN, Isn't this Vince Watson
W
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 19-01-2001 6:19:07
sounds like someone sampled Jaguar:
http://209.237.157.45/ram/69475.RAM
Nico AWTSVENTIN, Fracturhythms.
am i imagining things or does it sound like the first track sound like
it
sampled Jaguar?
Mike
:19 AM
Subject: [313] jaguar sampling?
sounds like someone sampled Jaguar:
http://209.237.157.45/ram/69475.RAM
Nico AWTSVENTIN, Fracturhythms.
am i imagining things or does it sound like the first track sound like it
sampled Jaguar?
Mike
I remember first hearing it, in the Pirate Soundwaves section at the
Submerge site. I loved it right off the bat - I would call Submerge and
ask them when it was going to be released; I would also bug Dave Cooper
down at Play De Record every week with the same question, Is it in
yet?.
Cheers,
G
and i, personally, still think the original sounds better than all the
remixes, May and Mills included...
Mike
From: Kyle J Dupuy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [313] Jaguar-again
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 09:27:05 -0500 (EST)
snip
what were your
Kyle J Dupuy wrote:
i haven't seen any posts about this so, fyi: recordtime (roseville) has
a couple limited edition jaguar remixes w/ mills and may
***this is on 430 West UK
and a bunch of
d. may-only mixes.
***this is on 430 West
my impression from posts on this list was that you
detroit 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [313] Jaguar CD's/Video
Anybody seen the video ?
I think the sound is weak when compared to other music videos
(or am I wrong here, but I mean bad mastered for the clip)
The D. MAy mix is great !
Anyway 313 is a little bit in Holland
so now I'm dying to hear the Derick May remix. anyone know where I can
try http://www.430west.com/
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Subject: Re: [313] Jaguar CD's/Video
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 20:03:18 -0500
so now I'm dying to hear the Derick May remix. anyone know where I can find
an MP3 of it? or is someone willing to encode it for real audio to and
share
it with the rest of us?
--
sean deason
From: DJ DMT [EMAIL PROTECTED
2:36 AM
Subject: Re: [313] Jaguar CD's/Video
Please come on
And what's about to buy it ?
DJ DMT,
I'm assuming you run the video from a PC, while the video has been made on
a
MAC, so if you have not a proper convertisor, do not say that the sound is
weak.
The quicktime version which
Instead of trust what you see, hear on a TV , make your own test!
and for a Sunday meditation go to :
:http://www.undergroundresistance.com/index2.html
From: DJ DMT [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: xx xx [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313 detroit 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [313] Jaguar CD's/Video
Date: Sun
tonight ;D
313 is def. on the up and up
cheers
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Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2000 12:06 AM
Subject: Re: [313] Jaguar CD's
Once again :P
Yellow cover ,tracks listing :
1-Jaguar Lawrence Burden
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [313] Jaguar shopping
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 18:16:40 EDT
HA My local techno outlet, yeah right, wouldent that be nice. No, I
am
afraid there are no local techno outlets in these parts, I suppose I could
catch
So I asked at the counter, and the staff guy went rummaging through the
CD Singles section, and eventually produced one copy of it, apparantly the
only one in the shop. And it didn't have the video on it, it had the
original mix, the Jeff Mills mix, and a third one that I didn't recognize.
I
It's the same around here Aaron. I live in York, they
had Depth Charge for a bit but it closed down a few
years ago because they weren't getting enough
customers.
The closest (and one of the best outside of London...
Can I have a free ticket, Paul?)one to me now is
Innercity in Leeds but being a
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 9:55 PM
Subject: [313] Jaguar shopping
After going shopping (in the UK) for a copy of the CD single version of
Jaguar (I was after that video) I can see why its not any higher in the
charts, in fact its miraculous anyone knows anything about it at all. I
went
In a message dated 23/10/00 14:30:27 GMT Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
i'm glad you didn't purchase from a link in the chain - do everyone a favour
and support your local techno outlet; if your on this list, you should know
who and where they are.where are they hiding?
I'm really confused about this
We're all so proud of the fact that UR is underground but then bitch that it
doesn't make it further than 43 in the UK _POP_ charts?
Please
Fred
I'm surprised that no-one has mentioned this yet but
'Jaguar' debuted at
number 43 in the UK pop
I'll explain, underground has nothing to do with making it to the charts or
not. Underground is spirit. Don't let this be the start of an discussion
about how the define underground
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm really confused about this
We're all so proud of the fact that UR is
Don't be confused. It's not *that* difficult to work out...
I am not 'bitching' that Jaguar didn't make it further than 43, I'm stating
a fact, offering my opinions as to why and asking for other peoples
thoughts. It's nothing to do with whether or not UR is underground or not.
Good records
Jaguar Jaguar, all adroit,
Beneath the streets of dread Detroit:
What mere mortal MTV,
Dare frame thy fearful symmetry?
Wes--with apologies to William Blake ;=)
I laughed aloud when I read this... thanks :)
e. rautio, also known as pHinn
* the webmaster of pHinnWeb - the old skool, the
SO i do think it is possible for a track to reach the top of the charts
but they do need airplay from some radio/tv station.
I agree, it is possible (albeit very rare), and that's what I thought would
happen with Jaguar. It's had considerable airplay on Radio 1 here - the UKs
only national FM
/index.html
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From: Tom Robbins [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 October 2000 14:23
To: 313 mailing list
Subject: Re: [313] Jaguar in UK charts
SO i do think it is possible for a track to reach the top of the charts
but they do need airplay from some radio/tv
Klaas-Jan wrote:
SO i do think it is possible for a track to reach the top of the charts
but they do need airplay from some radio/tv station.
then Tom wrote:
I agree, it is possible (albeit very rare), and that's what I thought would
happen with Jaguar. It's had considerable airplay on
For my money, the best thing about Jaguar
is the cover. Looks like No Limit does Detroit.
It's got those letters for Jaguar and everything.
Too bad it doesn't come in a transparent red
case with ads for more UR 12s in the booklet.
Matt
In a message dated 10/16/00 12:25:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
At the risk of going out on a limb, I hope they
don't show it on tv: it's too good to be caged in with all the usual
crap.
Wes
I beg to differ. If the opportunity is there to present it to tv, I'd say go
for it. If the
now. 8o)
just my $0.01 (does it deserve $0.02?)
Mike
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [313] Jaguar Video
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 19:42:44 EDT
In a message dated 10/16/00 12:25:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
At the risk of going out on a limb, I
on 10/16/00 10:12 PM, Cyclone Wehner at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A big style in Melbourne now is what they call tech RB
Allow me to run another tangent off of this. Last night at the Detroit
Grand Pubahs video release party, my man (kevin) Moonstarr from Toronto
dropped the bomb on us.
I
Tech-Hop at the time, which is an
exceedingly lame genre name.
That's what we called this tech RB at first - the Timbaland/Missy
Ellliott end of it.
tech rb...? what the f*** is that? i might be wrong but aren't most of
those said artists (destiny's child, missy, timbaland, etc...) closer to the
2step garage thing than the techno genre..
sand.
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There's still a lot of good hip hop about. Lots of
kids still sit on street corners doing it old school
style. In fact, I'm pretty sure there's a mailing list
similar to this one but for hip hop out there...
The truth of it is that the underground will never
die. You can't stop people from
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and that's a problem why?
i don't know, i know we probably don't see eye to eye on this, but this
music is called underground for a reason, and that's to keep it OFF the
mainstream channels... any kind of music that blows up
.
jeff
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E.G. : Sonic Youth, alltough they're underground and don't make
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