Re: [AFMUG] Direct bury tracer wire reccomendations/experience.

“theres law and then theres what guys do.” I had a boss who gave a long speech about how the law is written vs how the policy for enforcement is written vs how the court interprets it, and how it can change at each step along the way. I heard the same speech every time I brought up that

Re: [AFMUG] backup power for small tower

I’ve had success with ferrites, but I got them with high impedance at the frequency of the other guy’s transmitter, and I got ginormous ones that I could loop the ethernet through a whole bunch of times. Someone on this list informed me that impedance is squared by the number of turns the

Re: [AFMUG] backup power for small tower

Usually when people say "DC plant" they mean a rectifier. A charger + inverter like you proposed would probably also count as having DC power plant. I used one of these once: https://www.aimscorp.net/12-Volt-Pure-Sine-Inverter-Chargers/ Worked fine, but no remote management. I'm sure there

Re: [AFMUG] HDD per foot cost

We can get drop cable plowed by a reputable, insured contractor for $3.50 on a good day, but OSP cable in a duct is a different story. To get under $3.50 we’d be dealing with a one-man band moonlighting as an excavator. In NY there’s more work than there are contractors to do it so that

Re: [AFMUG] HDD per foot cost

The highest I saw was $50/ft. $6-8 sounds like plowing prices. I’d expect at least $15/ft for HDD. Whoever’s doing it for $6-8/ft don’t lose that guy’s number. From: AF On Behalf Of Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 10:27 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users

Re: [AFMUG] Windows file share monitoring

I would think the Windows event log would have it…..but I haven’t checked. From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2022 6:17 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] Windows file share monitoring Any of you degenerate nerds know if theres an app that

Re: [AFMUG] OT Carpentry question

Straw thatch was good enough for our great-grandpappies and it’s good enough for us! From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2022 2:16 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Carpentry question OSB will absorb humidity when the paint

Re: [AFMUG] OT Carpentry question

If you’re going to put siding on later, then why not OSB and Tyvek? You see remodels in progress for multiple years with nothing but Tyvek protecting the sheathing. Or paint + Tyvek for the belt & suspenders approach. From: dmmoff...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2022 2:15 PM

Re: [AFMUG] OT Carpentry question

Sounds like a really tall carport. We have a tower shelter that was done “temporarily” with OSB and exterior paint. It’s been “temporary” for 8 years waiting for someone to go back with real siding. The same paint is still holding up so far, but I don’t know what the real longevity will

Re: [AFMUG] Broadcast/ARP traffic on a CMTS Plant

IP-> Firewall can't make a rule to match ARP, but a bridge->Filter can. You can't match IP's if you select "ARP" as the layer2 protocol to match, but there might be another way to make it work. Maybe match broadcast destinations and add a packet mark then follow up with an IP->Firewall rule

Re: [AFMUG] OSPF Pulling my hair out - SOLVED

Just double checked. If I put an address on a down interface it does go into the routing table as a directly connected, but inactive route (marked as unreachable, but still in the routing table), it doesn't go into the OSPF LSA. I don't see how it would hurt anything. A traceroute to that

Re: [AFMUG] MUX Monitor port

Well they're certainly not giving those away. From: AF On Behalf Of Daniel Pautz via AF Sent: Monday, December 05, 2022 11:20 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Cc: Daniel Pautz Subject: Re: [AFMUG] MUX Monitor port If you find something that is fairly cheap let me know as we

Re: [AFMUG] Voltage Attenuator?

A 4:1 transformer comes to mind. It would have to a basic analog wire wound transformer though, not an electronic "DC converter". From: AF On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini Sent: Monday, December 05, 2022 11:05 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] Voltage Attenuator?

[AFMUG] MUX Monitor port

Fiber multiplexers usually have a monitor port and 1%-5% of the light is sent to the monitor port so you can know the status of each wave. That's all well and good, but what device can I plug into the monitor port if I actually want to monitor them? I have an OPM of course, but is there a

[AFMUG] Cisco SPA122

Does anyone here still use the Cisco SPA122? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor 24V PSU cabinet with batteries?

I used to work with a guy that was a machinist. He took those 32” toolboxes, turned them sideways so the door opened towards you, added weather stripping, welded plates over all the holes in the side (which was now the top), cut out the padlock holes, welded over those, added draw catches with

Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor 24V PSU cabinet with batteries?

Get two. One for batteries and one for equipment. Still cheaper than any proper rack cabinet. Or get a bigger one. You’d have to get 4 of those 32” ones to match the cost of a DDB cabinet. I’m not advocating toolboxes as an ideal solution, but for awhile that was the solution we could

Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor 24V PSU cabinet with batteries?

If you find one, let us know. I think the issue is that ideal for you is not ideal for everyone. My ideal would be 48V with 4x100Ah batteries. Someone else’s ideal is just gonna be an AC power strip and a light bulb. If there was one configuration that would outsell all others, then

Re: [AFMUG] OT Vocab lesson

Reminds me of those Star Trek episodes where they solve a problem with techno babble. From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2022 11:33 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Cc: Chuck McCown Subject: [AFMUG] OT Vocab lesson https://youtu.be/RXJKdh1KZ0w -- AF mailing

Re: [AFMUG] Adtran Setup with VoIP Innovations

Yes I have done this...I can send an example config with notes. -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Nate Burke Sent: Monday, November 21, 2022 3:58 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Adtran Setup with VoIP Innovations I was wondering if anyone has setup an Adtran TA900 series to

Re: [AFMUG] -48 vDC to 120 vAC

For what it’s worth, we have an inverter from CE+T which was installed by our low voltage contractor. https://www.cet-america.com/en/ It does have network monitoring and management. It works great, but has more knobs than most of us are ever going to need. Ours is a 2U unit with 2

Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor DC Distribution

I’ve done it (on the ground) with terminal blocks too. The only issue with that was one bad radio with a short trips the breaker on the whole system. I wouldn’t do it again without separate breakers/fuses for each device. -Adam From: AF On Behalf Of Jason Wilson Sent: Thursday,

Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor DC Distribution

I've used the PDU at the bottom of the tower. My only complaint at the time was the character limit on port description. I think it was 11 characters or some suchI had to come up with some cryptic abbreviations when I really wanted to say "Power to Telrad Compact 1000 - 270 azimuth". I

Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup

I have noticed that large generators everywhere seem to all be diesel, and it’s something I’ve often wondered about. Propane can be stored for decades. Diesel breaks down, gels, and grows algae. So I’ve always gone with propane and just got the oversized tank. I can’t imagine a heater for

Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup

Wouldn’t diesel gel at -20F? From: AF On Behalf Of Mark Radabaugh Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2022 8:55 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup When I looked at propane for a standby generator at the data center I calculated it out

Re: [AFMUG] Water and rf

It would have been kind of the installer to bury a locate wire alongside the pipe…..or leave a map. From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2022 1:26 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] Water and rf I assume no, but i need one of you nerds to

Re: [AFMUG] VoIP Provider provisioning Cisco SPA phones

Does Imagine operate in NY State? From: AF On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2022 11:56 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] VoIP Provider provisioning Cisco SPA phones Atheral does these Imagine does phone lines for $20 if you

[AFMUG] VoIP Provider provisioning Cisco SPA phones

We don't do VoIP anymore, but someone asked me for a referral. Are there still any VoIP providers who can provision Cisco SPA phones? I know they're EOL. It'll just be easier for this guy if someone else configures the phones for him. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Speedtest client appliance

Can you attest that the FX120 can actually run 10Gbps on the speed test tool? My betters have decided that we need to sell a 5Gbps plan now. -Adam From: AF On Behalf Of Mark Radabaugh Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2022 3:01 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Nasa Moon Rocket

Yeah I found a source on the web saying it's compressed to 3600-10,000 PSI in a vehicle fuel tank, but not stored as liquid because it has to be chilled to -270c to become liquid. Still, any gas at 10,000 PSI sounds scary. A punctured tank would decompress like a bomb. If there's an

[AFMUG] CnHeat

Can Cambium use CnHeat for planning WiFi deployments, or is it only for PMP products? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] VMware question

My current employer uses VMWare…..and fortunately someone else deals with the licensing crap. I would still use Proxmox if I was the one writing the checks. Even if I wasn’t writing the checks, if I was still trying to be a one-man band I’d pick Proxmox just for the simplicity of it.

Re: [AFMUG] Old Canopy FW upgrade

There was an individual who would try to sell you the info about the POKE command for a few hundred dollars. There was also at least one surplus equipment vendor who would sell you AP’s that were converted SM’s. I imagine PEEK and POKE were useful for debugging, but probably should not have

Re: [AFMUG] Overlaying Cable Network

Several years ago I was working on a rural broadband project. There were still a lot of towns with long range DSL at 1-2 Mbps, and nothing else but satellite or maybe cellular depending which hill you’re on. Depends on what you call Greenfield I guess. They were sparse areas, and I don’t

Re: [AFMUG] Overlaying Cable Network

https://www.greenlightnetworks.com/residential-2/ Disclaimer: We’re north of 100,000 HHP and 30,000 subscribers. I don’t own the place and I don’t do the marketing. These are just my observations. From: AF On Behalf Of Jason McKemie Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2022 11:05 AM To:

Re: [AFMUG] Overlaying Cable Network

Some people will sign up even if you’re higher priced, just because they hate the cable company that much. You can offer higher speed at the same price and you’ll get some more. If you offer higher speed, and also lower price, and also put the effort and money into getting the

Re: [AFMUG] Overlaying Cable Network

About 30% We’re intentionally overbuilding Spectrum/Charter, and undercutting them at $50/month vs their $75/month. From: AF On Behalf Of Jason McKemie Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2022 5:36 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] Overlaying Cable Network Those of

Re: [AFMUG] Azure ExpressRoute

fair From: AF On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, October 07, 2022 9:10 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Azure ExpressRoute If a customer might need it, they already know about it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing

[AFMUG] Azure ExpressRoute

I'd never heard of Microsoft Azure ExpressRoute until a few days ago. I'm getting the impression it's an IP network between datacenters where Microsoft cloud services are, and end users can get an ExpressRoute connection so their MS cloud stuff isn't crossing the public Internet. We could

Re: [AFMUG] Speedtest client appliance

How much is this Veex FX120 device approximately? Do you need a server at the headend to test to? From: AF On Behalf Of Mark Radabaugh Sent: Monday, September 26, 2022 5:47 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Speedtest client appliance Not in the cost

[AFMUG] Speedtest client appliance

When we're selling 1gig connections I'd like installers to have a definitive way to test to a full gig. A recent Raspberry Pi can hit a full gig on iPerf every time. I'd love to see one of those touch screen cases on a Raspberry Pi that boots up and presents a big button that says "Run

Re: [AFMUG] amber alert

Oh interesting. I never kept a dead phone. From: AF On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 10:52 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] amber alert Not sure that is all there is to it. I have an old phone that I keep this laying

Re: [AFMUG] My Internet is down and I can't sleep

Now we see the illuminati’s real purpose for pushing IPv6. Every cubic centimeter of air gets an address. From: AF On Behalf Of castarritt Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 2:12 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] My Internet is down and I can't sleep AaaS?

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Electronic question

Hmmmapparently yeah. I assumed they weren't a thing anymore, but there's one on Amazon for $12. -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Nate Burke Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2022 12:03 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Electronic question Can

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Electronic question

I'm thinking V=IR so if I add resistance to the newer bell would it draw more current and trigger the solenoid? Or would the resistor just be turning current into heat? -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Chris Fabien Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2022 11:41 AM To: AnimalFarm

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Electronic question

Do you mean like use the relay to trigger the ding-dong after the button is released and the school-bell is done? -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Chris Fabien Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2022 11:41 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Electronic

[AFMUG] OT: Electronic question

I know some of you are really good at this stuff... I'm in a 95 year old house. There are two doorbells. I just replaced the front doorbell with a new cheapo from Lowes. Two chimes and two solenoids. One solenoid fires when you press the button, and the other fires when you release the

Re: [AFMUG] OT asterisk

Sounds like this is FreePBX? There are multiple places to configure things and it's not always obvious which one takes precedent. I'd imagine the strip and prepend you're trying to do are overridden somewhere else. From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Friday,

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: EXTERNAL - BDC

My instinct is to largely agree that there’s nothing wrong with the Cambium 450 web interface. Lots of detailed info as long as the person is willing to look through the screens and see what’s there. Lots of knobs to turn for the people who are willing to RTFM. That said, the Dashboard

Re: [AFMUG] OT Voyager

Come now; a technician is no more flammable than a sack of water. Just tell them to stop being babies about it. From: AF On Behalf Of castarritt Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2022 3:47 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Voyager

Re: [AFMUG] OT Voyager

I'd bet a smaller codebase helps. No gigabytes of libraries to debug. But yeah, if something I built lasted 45 years in outer space I'd pat myself on the back a bit. From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2022 11:50 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Cc: Chuck McCown

Re: [AFMUG] BDC

They knew full well that 477 was imperfect, and they must know this is too. Just hope they figure out some improvements for next year. -Adam From: AF On Behalf Of Tyson Burris Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2022 10:03 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BDC

Re: [AFMUG] Larger Standby Generators

I always get the Generac “cold weather kit” now. It’s really just a battery heater pad and a heater sleeve that goes around the oil filter. It’s overpriced for what it is, but when you get theirs it’ll have the correct wires and connectors already. I think it’s ok to pay extra to not have to

Re: [AFMUG] OT Chinese solar panels

Then you can add "Smuggler" to your resume. From: AF On Behalf Of Nate Burke Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2022 3:09 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Chinese solar panels Can you just fly to china, then strap some under your coat to get them back? On

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: 900 MHz PtP

Alvarion 900: Alvarion became Telrad. They have something called “BreezeAir 8000” which is available in 900mhz. But my faith in them was destroyed by my experience with the Compact 1000. Maybe BreezeAir is the best thing ever, but I’ll let someone else try it. From: AF On

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: 900 MHz PtP

Might be an issue with the camera..unless they're ok with a super low frame rate. When I looked at licensing a channel the $/mhz/population made it 5 digits even for a fairly rural county. I suppose if you only need 125khz then it might work out. From: AF On Behalf Of Scott Imhoff

Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz PtP

At least the rocks won’t get bigger every year. From: AF On Behalf Of Craig Baird Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2022 10:56 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz PtP I was afraid that would be the case. I guess I'll probably have to pitch the 450i to them.

Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz PtP

If you can live with the capacity of PMP100 they’re going to give you the most consistent outcome. Actually, If you can live with that low of a capacity then CnReach is also an option. It can only run with very small channel sizes, but if whatever you’re doing works within those capacity

Re: [AFMUG] crazy bandwidth request

Well there’s needs and then there’s needs. A few more cameras and they’ll exceed a gigabit….then there’s maybe a different kind of need. From: AF On Behalf Of Zach Underwood Sent: Friday, August 12, 2022 2:22 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] crazy bandwidth

Re: [AFMUG] crazy bandwidth request

If I was the cloud camera vendor, I’d try to design a hybrid system where a local NVR has the full resolution video and the cloud is only keeping a low-res “thumbnail” version. You pick a time period you want full res for and then the cloud system requests it from the NVR. Have the NVR poll

Re: [AFMUG] OT Paranoid

Gmail? I think it's understood that gmail is crawling your email for targeted ad purposes. Why else would it be free? I read recently that one of the data points leading to the spooky seeming ads is the proximity to other people's phones. You're talking about with someone and an hour later

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question for the Borg (Unifi AP-LR)

+1 For a single AP I wouldn’t horse around From: AF On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2022 9:46 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: Bill Prince Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question for the Borg (Unifi AP-LR) I had this issue. I said screw, threw it in the

Re: [AFMUG] IP Geolocation update

Thanks. Yeah I’ve done Maxmind earlier today, and that’s definitely one to do first if you’re updating them individually. I’ve just become aware of something called a “Geofeed”. Apparently you put a URL into a remark attribute of an IRR. It looks like this: Geofeed

Re: [AFMUG] IP Geolocation update

I’m wondering how it got that way. Maybe the previous user was a cell network? Maybe with multiple cities connected to the same core? More importantly, like maybe ¼ of the geolocation services have an easy “update the location” form. What are you supposed to do with the others?

[AFMUG] IP Geolocation update

Is there any fast/easy way to update all the geolocation services? I just got a new IP block and I'm getting conflicting results. The same IP is said to be in Manhattan, Cleveland, Dallas, DC, and Salt Lake depending which geolocation service you check. It's bizarre. -- AF mailing list

Re: [AFMUG] VMWare

Proxmox has a good feature set for a fraction of the cost. VMWare has some extra niceties, but for 10x the money. My current employer is using VMWare. The previous two had Proxmox. I like them both just fine, but if I was writing the check I’d pick Proxmox every time. ….that said, my

Re: [AFMUG] Sonar Ticketing email outage

I’d say email was easy until spammers made it hard. From: AF On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2022 8:34 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sonar Ticketing email outage I really hate people that use third-party services. E-mail is so

Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

Lumen likes the term “HSIP” lately. “High Speed IP” They’ve used that term both when we had a loop and when we were meeting them in a datacenter. -Adam From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Friday, July 08, 2022 4:14 PM To: TJ Trout ; AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc:

Re: [AFMUG] Splice Documentation

I don’t think we disagree that much here. The fundamental part is that people have to know how to use it (and then do so). If the person who understands the spreadsheet system leaves, now someone has to figure that out. Spreadsheets are basically free form entry so the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th

Re: [AFMUG] Splice Documentation

Whatever you do works best if the people know how to use it and keep it up to date. There are definitely people paying for fiber mapping software who then only have partial data in it which they then mingle with institutional memory and personal knowledge, which is only slightly better than

Re: [AFMUG] russian spam

Mmmm... Bolshevik bacon. From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2022 5:02 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Cc: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] russian spam The pigs were fed the bodies of political enemies. So the taste is a bit bitter. From:

Re: [AFMUG] When you don't want to delete an email mailbox

Server size parameter of “0” means unlimited. They must have set the “SIZE” value to a low number that the software rounded down to 0KB. From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2022 5:22 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] When you don't

Re: [AFMUG] OT too old - (Soylent Green is People)

There was a brief time in 18th century revolutionary France when terms like “Sir”, and “Madam” were seen as too much like supporting aristocracy and therefore monarchy. Some people insisted on using the terms “citizen” and “citizeness”. It didn’t last because it was stupid. Nobody’s going

Re: [AFMUG] Recommendation for cloud-hosted PBX

My current employer uses Ring Central. I can’t say anything bad about it. My DID can receive phone calls, faxes, and SMS. I can use the Ring Central app to text with my coworkers and we do that all day long. The Ring Central app also can do phone calls and video conferences and we do that

Re: [AFMUG] BBS

I heard Steve wants to play Trade Wars. Is there a telnet BBS around somewhere still? From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2022 2:59 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BBS nerds On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 11:25 AM Sterling Jacobson

Re: [AFMUG] BBS

I did Trade Wars too, but my addiction was Barren Realms Elite. From: AF On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Friday, June 10, 2022 8:55 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] BBS Legend of the red dragon. And yes...lots of trade wars - Reply message

Re: [AFMUG] Why do customers have such short memories?

I think it’s become very common to make problems out to be someone else’s fault. Or maybe it always has been common? Fixing problems is hard. You have to think, and troubleshoot, and do work and stuff. Much easier to screech at someone else. From: AF On Behalf Of Mathew Howard

Re: [AFMUG] Unobtanium 'tik 48v DC power board

I didn’t even know Mikrotik made that. Here I’ve been drilling a hole in the case and feeding my own cable into the case so I can splice it to the PSU connector on the board. Then I plug that into a Meanwell RSD bolted to a 1U blank. It’s the only way I’ve ever done it. -Adam

Re: [AFMUG] OT - here I go again...

That’s a fancy way to say you only get to lose a gunfight once. From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Monday, June 06, 2022 1:49 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - here I go again... I have been shot at, but never been in

Re: [AFMUG] OT - here I go again...

I’m fine with background checks and mental health screenings. The problem is crazy look like normal people until after they’ve already done something crazy, so there are no perfect answers. From: AF On Behalf Of Andy Trimmell Sent: Monday, June 06, 2022 12:54 PM To: AnimalFarm

Re: [AFMUG] Utility Pole Location

I agree with checking with PUC or PSC, but I take a more cynical view. They don’t want 3rd party attachers because it complicates their life. If they could defensibly argue that their easement doesn’t cover an attacher then they’ll move outside the ROW and get easements knowing that it

Re: [AFMUG] I Quit

Facebook is a nice way to keep in touch with people from my past. I block or snooze anyone who uses it as a soapbox. -Adam From: AF On Behalf Of James Howard Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2022 10:27 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I Quit Mama says

Re: [AFMUG] Guy wire mystery.

If they really don't know then it sounds like unauthorized attachments. -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Jay Weekley Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2022 1:35 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Guy wire mystery. I will look at it again in the morning. There

Re: [AFMUG] OT post LENT

We could use a lot more boring and respectful. From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2022 5:57 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT post LENT So, in other words boring and respectful? From: Bill Prince Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] "Show and Tell" rack

That's not crazy. From: AF On Behalf Of Brian Webster Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2022 12:14 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] "Show and Tell" rack Raspberry Pi with a small screen displaying traffic data your normally monitor for the network? Thank you,

Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political

I know it’s very tempting to keep commenting. Lent has been invoked. We have to let it go. From: AF On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2022 9:28 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political What is an "assault style weapon"? Are you

[AFMUG] "Show and Tell" rack

I'm setting up a live POP site that is also supposed to be for showing off when we give people a tour of our office. Is there anything special you would do to make a 23" 2 post rack full of equipment look extra awesome? Fancy lighting? Tie Die? Lipstick? Artistry is not my bailiwick.

Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political

We probably should have called "Lent" yesterday. -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Jay Weekley Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2022 4:35 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political I see lent coming. Jeff Broadwick - Lists wrote: > Ok, I’m out.

Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political

I think it’s worth re-iterating the point that we don’t actually have more mass shootings than other countries. ** https://www.gvpedia.org/gun-myths/europe-and-us/ “The average incident rate per capita for the 28 EU countries is 0.0602 with a 95% confidence Interval of .0257 to .09477. The

Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political

Um….nobody advocates more abortions. More contraceptive measures maybe. You might need to take a smoke break my man. From: AF On Behalf Of Jan-GAMs Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2022 4:26 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political A fetus is not a child. An unwanted

Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political

I assumed that was intended to be satirical From: AF On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2022 4:10 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political Talk about sick. You just advocated murdering more children, especially those with

Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political

In NY we ban all manner of “tactical” features on guns, we are limited to 7 rounds in a magazine, and we require background checks for every gun purchase. NY has pretty much all of the common sense measures that people push for. We still had a neo-nazi shoot a bunch of people in Buffalo a

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP PTP Throughput

Yeah I was thinking you’d not quite get a full 100mb on a 20mhz channel. Might be 80-90. I would plan on 5.6ghz and 40mhz. -Adam From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2022 12:50 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP PTP Throughput

Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political

Figuratively inside the lines. From: AF On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, May 23, 2022 1:56 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political ...you mean outside the lines? On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 1:47 PM mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political

NYDOT can be pretty accommodating, but they definitely have a lot of rules and they do want you to color inside the lines. From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Monday, May 23, 2022 1:37 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Cc: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political Once

Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political

“kile (with an I not a Y and woke parents) doesn't believe asphalt and concrete are environmentally friendly” Well an asphalt road is kind of like a really long oil spill From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 2:35 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group

Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political

I don’t disagree at all about woke’ism and SJW I’m all on board with equal treatment under the law, and I’d imagine at this point almost everybody is. We can do better with equality in enforcement, and there’s clear statistical evidence to support that we are currently a lot more strict

Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political

I read the Libertarian part platform and thought I could be on board. I registered as Libertarian and carried the card in my wallet. …..and then I met the other libertarians. Some I can relate with and some others are absolutely insane. From: AF On Behalf Of Jason McKemie Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political

Weirdly opposite here. My brothers are vocally alt-right. All ex-military, all purport to be Christian. One is dead from substance abuse and suffered a variety of mental health issues. The surviving two are always broke, angry, and unhappy. I feel like I have to tiptoe around them so they

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Would you allow Tor exit node hosting in your AS?

Yes to TOS, but I’d also tell them verbally that if this becomes too much trouble for me then I’ll unplug it. -Adam From: AF On Behalf Of Andy Trimmell Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2022 10:21 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Would you allow Tor exit node

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