Probably they are expecting lots of people wanting to colocate ePMP with 100,
like maybe during transition, and not very many wanting to colocate ePMP with
450. Assuming there are ePMP people, and 450 people, but not that many EPMP +
450 people.
From: Bill Prince
Sent: Thursday, July 23,
The Jirous dishes are mechanically an issue. I’ve also got an issue that I
can’t figure out with them and the AF5x. On one link, I have a parallel backup
Powerbeam AC at 7 miles which links up with both polarities within 1dB of each
other. The Jirous antennas, not 2’ away, are -70, -58dBm.
I'll forward you...
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jul 23, 2015 8:13 PM, Simon Westlake simon.westl...@digitalgunfire.com
wrote:
Anyone got any screenshots of it? I couldn't find much info on the UBNT
website.
On 7/23/2015
I thought all PMP was 2.5 ms and ePMP was 5 ms. Once you had 2.5 ms, you got
the whole family.
We'll need someone more PMP smart to chime in.
-
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Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
Midwest Internet Exchange
http://www.midwest-ix.com
-
Is the two way system on a really low band that would be a harmonic of the
frequency that you're on right now?
—
Sent from Mailbox
On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 5:15 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net
wrote:
We have another tower that we have installed 900 FSK equipment on that seems
Luck of the draw; position of cables, blah blah blah.
I've seen it the other way around too.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 7/23/2015 2:54 PM, Craig House wrote:
However there are UBNT aps on the tower at 100fd with no noise from them
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 23, 2015, at 16:52, Craig
Ok, so now that deep packet inspection has been announced I'd assume any
NDAs have been lifted. Have any of you been using this? Any idea what
type of latency is added? That pricing model is a whole lot different from
any DPI tool that I have ever seen
I'm reading the engineering info. Looks like you would almost want to
deploy an ER standalone to do this, as there are a lot of things that
makes DPI not work.
A few things to note:
* This feature is integrated with the offload feature, so unlike
NetFlow (flow accounting), it does not
It has a web page...
http://us8.campaign-archive1.com/?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=5529d7c3a0e=6026330fbc
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jul 23, 2015 8:15 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
I'll forward
There are some technical challenges around further frame start accuracy that
would have to be worked through. PMP100 syncing does not automatically give
450/430 syncing and it does require some additional work.
We are curious to understand the use case for 450/ePMP co-location? Is it on
the
Yeah.I was wondering if it's 450mhz or thereabouts
On 7/23/2015 5:41 PM, Work wrote:
Is the two way system on a really low band that would be a harmonic of
the frequency that you're on right now?
—
Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox
On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 5:15 PM, Craig
Hi Brett -
Was this while in beta? What did support have to say with issue?
Thanks,
Ben
On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 6:03 PM, Brett A Mansfield
li...@silverlakeinternet.com wrote:
I had dpi running for one day in my ER Pro 8 and it panicked in less that
24 hours. I turned it off and it's been
Yes.
Patrick Leary, Telrad
727-501-3735
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of SmarterBroadband
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 8:04 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Can't contain myself on this one... Customer using Telrad
COMPACTs in 2.5 GHz sends a note
Were they using
I had dpi running for one day in my ER Pro 8 and it panicked in less that 24
hours. I turned it off and it's been good since.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 23, 2015, at 5:13 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote:
Ok, so now that deep packet inspection has been announced I'd assume any NDAs
Were they using 2.5 before?
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 12:04 PM
To: tel...@wispa.org; af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Can't contain myself on this one... Customer using Telrad
COMPACTs in 2.5 GHz sends a note
This just came
Anyone got any screenshots of it? I couldn't find much info on the UBNT
website.
On 7/23/2015 6:23 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
I have a feeling it's just a nice l nicely wrapped ntop coming from
Vyatta. I'd love to be surprised.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5AHsGlAMNIfeature=youtu.be for anyone
else interested
On 7/23/2015 7:13 PM, Simon Westlake wrote:
Anyone got any screenshots of it? I couldn't find much info on the
UBNT website.
On 7/23/2015 6:23 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
I have a feeling it's just a nice l
We have another tower that we have installed 900 FSK equipment on that seems to
be causing problems with a 2 way repeater system. The noise floor on the 2 way
system is 20 db higher when the equipment is on. The down side to this is the
tower owner is the repeater owner and without his
To elaborate, if I could match my ePMP timing with just one of them, I save a
lot of headaches. I think a lot of them are synced together. I realize some may
have different, incompatible settings.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
Midwest
We have not tried 10fd Ethernet but the cables are only 10' or less and are
shielded
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 23, 2015, at 16:50, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:
Sounds like you're getting interference from the ethernet cable?
have you tried running the 900 FSK on 10BaseT? That
100BaseT runs at ~~ 140 MHz (give or take). We've sometimes seen it
interfere with HAM radio repeaters.
10BaseT would be a good bet with 900 FSK, as 10 MHz is 2X what the
aggregate throughput is.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 7/23/2015 2:51 PM, Craig House wrote:
I think they said 152.x
Will be really nice when the firmware patch comes out that enables the lower
5ghz band new design is very nice also
—
Sent from Mailbox
On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 2:16 PM, Jason McKemie
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote:
I know this has been talked about before, but what do those out
Ok we will give it a try but the repeater guy will not be back up there to test
for the noise until next Tuesday. Sounds like a plan.
- Original Message -
From: Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 5:04:02 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 900 fsk and
I have some UBNT PowerBeam links with shields from RF Armor. I've been
happy with the performance [but I'll admit that I didn't do back-to-back
comparisons to test the effectiveness in my situation].
Would the ePMP Force 110 benefit from similar shielding? I'm planning to
add a few non-sync ePMP
I think they said 152.x mhz I could check but if it's harmonics we are screwed
for 900mhz no matter what
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 23, 2015, at 16:48, Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote:
Yeah.I was wondering if it's 450mhz or thereabouts
On 7/23/2015 5:41 PM, Work wrote:
Is
Switch to 10mbps to prove or disprove
On Jul 23, 2015 4:16 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote:
Ethernet cable
On Jul 23, 2015 3:15 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote:
We have another tower that we have installed 900 FSK equipment on that
seems to be causing
I would imagine there are also some operators out there that were deploying
PMP450 before ePMP was around and have a mix of both. Personally, my only
interest in PMP450 at this point is 3.65ghz and 900mhz, so it's not really
relevant to me.
On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 4:24 PM, Mike Hammett
Heck, tone alignment is worth $100, popping them into the same dish as the FSK
they’re replacing is worth another $100, now they’re cheaper than ePMP! Wait,
there’s more. They come in 3.65 GHz, and soon in 900 MHz. Now how much would
you pay? And Lite APs, two for the price of one, just pay
PMP450 is already bisexual (will do either 2.5ms or 5ms timing).
I think PMP430 is 2.5ms only, as is PMP100.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 7/23/2015 1:12 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
I see what you're saying, I don't know why it's that way, but for some
reason it needs 2.5ms framing to work
my guess (and this is only a guess) is that they are mostly concerned with
ePMP syncing with PMP100 because PMP100 has such low throughput now a days
(thanks netflix) that a lot of operators are looking for a cheep way to
upgrade their PMP100 installed base. PMP450 is kinda expensive if you are
How would 450/epmp co-location be relevant to non Cambium gear?
I would imagine if someone starts with ePMP and then gets to the point
where they need a little extra punch and can afford 450, sync would be
extremely helpful.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Upgrade path is another good use.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
Midwest Internet Exchange
http://www.midwest-ix.com
- Original Message -
From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, July 23,
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/07/teledildonics-patent-used-to-sue-six-nascent-cybersex-companies/
I have a feeling it's just a nice l nicely wrapped ntop coming from
Vyatta. I'd love to be surprised.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jul 23, 2015 7:13 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote:
Ok, so now that deep packet
When you pronounce P-M-P as pimp these emails sound terrible
On 7/23/2015 4:16 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
PMP450 is already bisexual (will do either 2.5ms or 5ms timing).
I think PMP430 is 2.5ms only, as is PMP100.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 7/23/2015 1:12 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
I see
Force110 ptp has a strong metal case. The antennas are better than the
Powerbeam 400 to begin with. You could definitely get away with regular
Force110 radios if you want.
Personally I'd spring for the extra bucks and put on the force110ptp. It's
the heavy duty GPS radio but super cheap. It's
As in your core, high density is 450, out skirts are non Cambium and you are
looking for a cheaper solution to put in that will play nice with 450.
On Jul 23, 2015, at 4:16 PM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
How would 450/epmp co-location be
However there are UBNT aps on the tower at 100fd with no noise from them
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 23, 2015, at 16:52, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote:
We have not tried 10fd Ethernet but the cables are only 10' or less and are
shielded
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 23,
When you say 2way, I think VHF, in which case maybe it’s the Ethernet causing
problems. We used to have this all the time with OTA TV low band VHF before
the digital transition. Have you tried forcing the Ethernet to 10BaseT? Not
losing anything with 900 FSK because it can’t do 10 Mbps
Any reason why I cannot run anything above OS 6.25 on a CCR1306 without
PPPoE sessions going haywire?
6.25 'appears' to be nice and stable.
Tyson Burris, President
Internet Communications Inc.
739 Commerce Dr.
Franklin, IN 46131
317-738-0320 Daytime #
317-412-1540 Cell/Direct #
Switching + VLANS != MPLS
Depends on the load at hte site, but an RB1100AHx2 can put up a pretty good
fight, otherwise, yes, to CCRs you go.
Little need to guess, their web site tells you exactly what it does under a few
different circumstances. Three different packet sizes, three different
The Cisco IE4000 does gigabit with POE if you are willing to spend about
$4K per switch. Also, as mentioned, this type of POE will not work with
most WISP gear without converters. I'd like to see this fabled Netonix
switch. I am not aware of a single person ever receiving a DC Netonix, and
I
It works, so, yeah, I'll use it when it makes sense.
On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 9:04 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:
Friends don't let friends use Cisco.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL
I don't see why not? $309 for an RB1100 vs. $367 for a CCR1009
It may or may not, I don't know. I just know the performance is great.
CCR1009 or RB1100 for the CCR-adverse plus PacketFlux.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
Midwest Internet
Every time I bring up switching to 48v (though 802.3xx would be better), I get
all kinds of hate from people that did 12v or 24v plants... because nothing in
IT ever changes.
Honestly, the days of PoE are numbered anyway. Fiber + DC is where they should
be moving to instead of different PoE
Disregard still drinking coffee.you already answered the question.
-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Andy Trimmell
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 8:22 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP and/or 50kw FM stations
how long are your cat5 runs
Maybe they should add a thread to the forum that is like a changelog of feature
requests. Links to the requests on the forum with status like what ones were
released, in beta, in development, under consideration per release.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Cisco hates WISPs and there are multiple vendors of higher end gear that
haven't gone out of their way to crap on us. Juniper, AlcaLuKia, Brocade, etc.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
Midwest Internet Exchange
http://www.midwest-ix.com
Switching + VLANS != MPLS
Yes. Do you need this on every tower? You may want to aggregate smaller sites
with switches
and put the CCRs at central towers. You might switch backhauls and put a router
to the switch
to do MPLS over the switched segment.
We do MPLS in order to use VPLS tunnels.
Dude, you will be my hero (as if you aren't already!) if you do a dual
input on the 12 port. +24 and +48 is very much needed. I will put them
at every freakin tower. The -48 stuff all uses 60-80W and I'll just
leave that stuff on its own.
We're installing some Exalt G2 radios that are 802.3at
At least they actually had some semblance of a product...
On Thursday, July 23, 2015, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/07/teledildonics-patent-used-to-sue-six-nascent-cybersex-companies/
It was not beta. It was the day 1.7.0 was GA. It is possible that it was not
the DPI, but it's been stable since I shut off DPI. I never contacted support
because I've been too busy and DPI is a luxury to me, not a necessity.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 23, 2015, at 6:04 PM, Ben Moore
Yep... See http://tickets.packetflux.com/kb/faq.php?id=14
If you have these on the bench, I'd upgrade them before you put them in the
field.
If they're in the field, and you have to go out to get them detected, I'd
wait for another week or so until I release the next syncinjector
firmware.
Are they all west coast testers?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jul 23, 2015 8:33 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote:
OK Thanks. Please let us know if you test again and any issues. The beta
customers and customers that
I haven't had any issues in our deep-south office ;)
On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 8:54 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:
Are they all west coast testers?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jul 23, 2015 8:33 PM,
Carrier Ethernet. Telco Systems is the one he went with. The prices weren't
ridiculous for what you got (feature wise), but just more than I'd be looking
to spend at the moment.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
Midwest Internet Exchange
Am I seeing this correctly? I replied to the email from Tushar but it
said the sender was Joseph Marsh?
Forwarded Message
Subject:Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Force 200
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 16:54:11 +
From: joseph marsh bwireless...@gmail.com
Reply-To:
They've got the resources to do it, would be nice to see someone undercut
the existing players.
On Thursday, July 23, 2015, Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org wrote:
I have no idea but if it’s like other attempts I’ve seen from companies to
stack heavy CPU “stuff” into a router, then stability
I want all of it to be in sync. ePMP, 100, 450. Doesn't matter if it's
on the same tower or not. We have lots of 450 at core sites and 100 at
remote sites. Some of the remote sites are pretty close to the core,
like 1-2 miles (so we don't have to put up 900 to get some customers
with some
OK Thanks. Please let us know if you test again and any issues. The beta
customers and customers that have been using since have been happy (have
not heard of other complaints).
Thanks,
Ben
On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Brett A Mansfield
li...@silverlakeinternet.com wrote:
It was not
'nuff said
On 7/23/2015 7:22 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/07/teledildonics-patent-used-to-sue-six-nascent-cybersex-companies/
I have no idea but if it’s like other attempts I’ve seen from companies to
stack heavy CPU “stuff” into a router, then stability and any type of scaling
would be first concerns. DPI is a very complex item to see someone like
Ubiquiti jump into in my opinion…
From: Af
CE box?
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 23, 2015, at 8:20 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:
I don't use switches in the field, otherwise I'd be pressing for it. There of
zero use to me. Reduced functionality and reduced performance. No idea why
you would.
Radios go directly into an
I like that. :-)
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
Midwest Internet Exchange
http://www.midwest-ix.com
- Original Message -
From: Forrest Christian (List Account) li...@packetflux.com
To: af af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, July 23,
Oh I forgot...
Some of the older syncpipes only do Motorola Binary format output. The
newer ones either do NMEA or Motorola Binary. I can't remember how long
ago (aka which rev) the pipes re-gained NMEA, but I wouldn't be surprised
if it was as late as Rev G or as early as Rev E. I know C was
I'm strongly considering adding a second power bus to the 12 port injector
at this point. Yes, it's currently 12, mainly due to mechanical space
savings enabling a few additional ports.
My dilemma is this: The 450i needs 48V. There are a few other products
which need 48V as well. As the
Well you'd get in the devs face if it was busted!
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jul 23, 2015 10:15 PM, Matt Hardy m...@ubnt.com wrote:
I haven't had any issues in our deep-south office ;)
On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 8:54 PM, Josh
Paul,
2.5 will include:
2.5 msec frame
Collocation with Canopy FSK
AP WiFi providing connectivity to ePMP SM WiFi, Ubiquiti SM WiFi, and Mikrotik
SM WiFi; and outdoor WiFi hotspot
ePTP DFS channel support
uPNP
Dan
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall
Sent:
Yes, Force 180.
But please define the term “gigabit horizontal”. Or am I missing a joke?
From: Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 2:04 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Force 200
Force 180
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite
Speaking of PMP100 co-location, we are seeking about 10 beta candidates who
would be willing to co-locate ePMP 100 next to their PMP100. Following are some
of the highlights -
- Configure ePMP to 2.5 ms
- Support 75/25 (the most tested configuration during beta)
- Use CMM4 or onboard GPS with
Not being a PMP user, what's different with 430\450 that makes it not match
this new framing? I thought 100 synced with 430\450, therefore if ePMP matched
100, it would 430 and 450 as well.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
Midwest Internet
Not until 2.5ms framing
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 4:07 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:
Not being a PMP user, what's different with 430\450 that makes it not
match this new framing? I thought
Pay attention to what I'm responding to, Josh.
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Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
Midwest Internet Exchange
http://www.midwest-ix.com
- Original Message -
From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent:
Maybepersonally I'm with Mike on this one.
If I were deploying 450 I wouldn't get a second platform on different tower
sites since it would end up costing more in labor/management/etc so you
might as well have a hard asset.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne
Sounds like you're getting interference from the ethernet cable?
have you tried running the 900 FSK on 10BaseT? That would lower the
frequency of the ethernet by an order of magnitude.
Alternately, using shielded cable or putting the ethernet in a metal
conduit would also attenuate the
Ethernet cable
On Jul 23, 2015 3:15 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote:
We have another tower that we have installed 900 FSK equipment on that
seems to be causing problems with a 2 way repeater system. The noise floor
on the 2 way system is 20 db higher when the equipment is on.
I see what you're saying, I don't know why it's that way, but for some
reason it needs 2.5ms framing to work with pmp100. Perhaps the pmp450 is a
multiplicative?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 4:10 PM, Mike
Other operators. My network touches over 11 WISPs, most of them PMP based with
I'm sure 450 being most new radios. No, I'm not buying 450 radios unless
they're at ePMP prices. ;-)
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
Midwest Internet Exchange
We haven't others report this, except in the conditions mentioned by Josh
-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr.
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 7:31 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Double Emails
Sometime beginning July
Anyone know when these will be available? I've heard they work GREAT
from someone that has actually used some trial units.
For the meantime you are able to use the WS Mini and power it with
„48-53V barrel connector“ or feed it with POE.
I’ve an installation with WS-8-250-AC indoor feeding 2 WS-6-MINI outdoor.
The only power source at this site is the AC-Cable plugged into the WS-8-250-AC.
Even the routerboard
There are lots of gigabit poe switches on the market. But, they're almost
all 802.3af and its variants. The netonix does more wisp-friendly
injection, but doesn't handle everything. Admittedly the midspans tend to
be a bit of a mess, but there are a lot of less-messy ways to get a midspan
in
We have 450 APs at 410 feet with a 50k station just above it, something
like 440 to 500 feet or something. We see some minor CRC errors on the
450 and more so on the FSK and that is with fiber up the tower. We
tried an EPMP at the same elevation and we couldn't connect an SM to the
AP much
Yeah I know a site that had nothing but problems at a 35kw FM station.
Fiber and DC to a CMM4 at the top finally made it all work. Short,
shielded jumpers from the CMM to the AP's. They still had occasionally
spats of CRC errors, but not bad enough to affect service.
Never had any luck
Sorry I don't have a part number. It might be in the list archives.
They were like 1-3/4 OD. The ID was just big enough to fit 10 or 11
coils of outdoor Cat5.
On 7/23/2015 11:21 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
No. Bigger.
On 7/23/2015 11:20 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Like this?
That's got room for 6 of cable. I figure that's enough for 10 loops?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 11:21 AM, Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote:
No. Bigger.
On 7/23/2015 11:20 AM, Josh Luthman
It's the same guy at the top. If he can't keep their divisions nice, then your
dollars go elsewhere.
Were the 3ks the one that supported S-Flow for IXP Manager?
Tahoe_IX, right?
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Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
Midwest Internet Exchange
I'm only aware of a form factor difference.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
Midwest Internet Exchange
http://www.midwest-ix.com
- Original Message -
From: Jon Langeler jon-ispli...@michwave.net
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday,
Fair rite has options for 1 to 300 Mhz and 25 to 300. Any idea which you
chose?
This is 101.6 mm which is 4 inches
www.fair-rite.com/cgibin/catalog.pgm?THEONEPART=2643814002SEARCHAGAIN=N#select:onepart
I figure the cable is 3/8 * 10 loops or 95.25 mm
Josh Luthman
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Why does this sound like Katy Perry / Taylor Swift / Nicki Minaj? Or Donald
Trump / John McCain / Lindsey Graham?
So they threw some shade our way in an FCC filing. Geez, get over it.
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From: Seth Mattinen
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 10:36 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Nope.
You crap on me and you have competition that is at least on par with what you
sell. No reason for me to do business with you.
Well, I guess I can't fault Seth too much for getting free gear. I tried to get
free from a few places and have been unsuccessful.
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Mike Hammett
Wowthat's wy bigger than the one I was using.
Think in terms of cross sectional area. The B dimension is the inner
diamater, so 3.
pi * R^2 = 7.065 square inches.
If your cable is 3/8 (which sounds a little beefy, but it could be) then
that's 0.110 square inches. You could loop
No. Bigger.
On 7/23/2015 11:20 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Like this?
http://www.newark.com/fair-rite/0475178281/frequency-min-200khz/dp/82X7129
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On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Adam Moffett
I have to agree, I don't see the sense in using switches when I can plug
everything into a Mikrotik router and get much more functionality. True,
you end up with a lot messier wiring using a midspan, but it's worth it in
my opinion that 12 port sync injector sounds like it's going to be
On 7/23/15 06:13, Mike Hammett wrote:
Cisco hates WISPs and there are multiple vendors of higher end gear that
haven't gone out of their way to crap on us. Juniper, AlcaLuKia,
Brocade, etc.
I recently got a nice Nexus 3548P-10G with licenses donated from Cisco
for an IX that supports
Like this?
http://www.newark.com/fair-rite/0475178281/frequency-min-200khz/dp/82X7129
Josh Luthman
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On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote:
Yeah I know a site that had nothing
I'm not sure if the link matches what you're describing. The link is to
a clip-on ferrite for a single cable up to 8.7mm diameter.
On 7/23/2015 11:30 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
That's got room for 6 of cable. I figure that's enough for 10 loops?
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Are they newer chipset?
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On Jul 23, 2015, at 10:53 AM, Jay Weekley par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote:
Anyone know when these will be available? I've heard they work GREAT from
someone that has actually used some trial units.
The board was obviously reworked due to the form factor. It's the same as
far as performance and such.
Josh Luthman
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On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 11:50 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:
I'm only aware of a
Friends don't let friends use Cisco.
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From: Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com
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