On Tue, 2024-07-23 at 19:39 -0700, 4st nomic via agora-business wrote:
> Title: Corpse Looting
> Adoption Index: 1.0
> Author: 4st
> Coauthors:
>
> Append the following to Rule 2695 ("The Veblen"):
> {
> When a shooter fires a round that eliminates a player who owns the
> Veblen,
> the shooter
What does this mean...?
On Wed, 24 July 2024, 12:40 pm 4st nomic via agora-business, <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> As the geologist, I cast earthquake. INSTABILITY. INCREASE. GO!
>
> By earthquake, I actually mean the following:
>
> I submit the following proposals:
> {
> Title:
On 5/25/24 22:11, 4st nomic via agora-business wrote:
> In an effort to reduce the ruleset, what if we offload things that only
> affect the officer of a report, or rather, leave the specifics of mechanics
> to the officer that tracks it?
>
> I submit the following proposal:
> {
> Title: Geologist
Right. However, the proposal gives some rule defined parameters for the
operation of crystals, leaving the exact details to regulations. Eg
"crystals increase in size when rules are amended or repealed" does not
specify precisely how or how much, leaving those details to the regulation.
On Sun,
On 5/25/24 10:11 PM, 4st nomic via agora-business wrote:
In an effort to reduce the ruleset, what if we offload things that only
affect the officer of a report, or rather, leave the specifics of mechanics
to the officer that tracks it?
Could you explain a little about more how you see this
Yachay wrote:
An Imperial can, by announcement, win the game without 2 objections if the
Empireworld shows that ey have accomplished at least 3 extraordinary feats
in the fictional world that the Empireworld describes since ey last won the
game in this way. This rule does not describe what
On Sun, 2024-03-03 at 11:45 +0100, Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-
discussion wrote:
> > This *really* seems like an infinite free win generation machine. At the
> > *very* least there should be some cooldown between wins (I'd argue for a
> > global 30 day cooldown at minimum)
> >
>
> I'm flattered
On Sun, Mar 3, 2024 at 8:55 AM Janet Cobb via agora-business <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On 3/1/24 17:26, Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-business wrote:
> > "There exists a document known as the Empireworld, which should describe
> in
> > some way a fictional world. Each player that has
Janet wrote:
So, I don't think basing quorum on Activity is a good idea at all, and
there's no obvious change (to me) that would avoid these problems.
Whereas quorum is currently based on a specific type of activity (voting
on other recent decisions), which seems a lot more appropriate.
On 2/15/24 12:54, 4st nomic via agora-discussion wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 9:44 AM Janet Cobb via agora-discussion <
> agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
>> On 2/15/24 12:41, 4st nomic via agora-business wrote:
>>> I submit the following proposal:
>>> {
>>> Title: No Taxation Without
On Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 9:44 AM Janet Cobb via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On 2/15/24 12:41, 4st nomic via agora-business wrote:
> > I submit the following proposal:
> > {
> > Title: No Taxation Without Representation
> > Adoption Index: 2.0
> > Author: 4st
> >
On 2/15/24 12:41, 4st nomic via agora-business wrote:
> I submit the following proposal:
> {
> Title: No Taxation Without Representation
> Adoption Index: 2.0
> Author: 4st
> Co-author(s):
>
> [Currently, democratic proposals can pass even if the quorum is much lower
> than the number of active
>:(
On February 12, 2024 12:09:48 AM GMT-03:00, secretsnail9 via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
> (Unless it's something unimportant like pushing the boulder).
--
juan
Absurdor
> On Feb 11, 2024, at 8:13 PM, Maloney Agora via agora-business
> wrote:
>
> I'm leaving the other one up. Fuck you. I propose the following proposal.
>
> Name: Ambiguity Amendment
> Author: Maloney
> ID: 3
Dearest Maloney, as the Promotor It's my duty to distribute all proposals that
are
On 1/27/2024 9:58 AM, 4st nomic via agora-business wrote:
"I've been slacking in my tax collecting! And in my law making!"
[For the record, I recommend repealing this rule after this first February
29th unless it's liked well enough.]
I submit the following proposal:
{
Title: Agoran
On 1/1/24 16:54, Janet Cobb via agora-discussion wrote:
> This has precedence issues with redefining "fee" but it's probably fine.
> It happens to work fine now since this rule will take precedence over
> the other rules enacted in this proposal, but if a Rule with power > 1
> or a Rule enacted
On 12/31/23 18:04, nix via agora-business wrote:
> {
> Title: Stamp Specialization v1.1
> Adoption Index: 2
> Author: nix
> Co-Authors: 4st, ais523, Janet
>
> Enact a new Power 1 rule titled "Stamp Specialization":
>
> Stamp Specialization is a person switch with potential values "None"
>
On Mon, Oct 9, 2023 at 12:45 PM juan via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> 4st nomic via agora-business [2023-10-09 10:44]:
> > On Sun, Oct 8, 2023 at 7:27 PM 4st nomic <4st.no...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I submit the following proposal:
> > > {
> > > Title: Wizards
4st nomic via agora-business [2023-10-09 10:44]:
> On Sun, Oct 8, 2023 at 7:27 PM 4st nomic <4st.no...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I submit the following proposal:
> > {
> > Title: Wizards Wage War (v1.1)
> > Adoption Index: 2.0
> > Author: 4st
> >
>
> I withdraw this proposal. There exists at least
On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 2:14 PM juan via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> At the risk of ruining the fun, I'll just put this here if anyone is
> confused:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCP_Foundation
>
> --
> juan
>
I don't think this spoils the fun: I think
At the risk of ruining the fun, I'll just put this here if anyone is confused:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCP_Foundation
--
juan
On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 1:45 PM 4st nomic <4st.no...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 10:51 AM Janet Cobb via agora-discussion <
> agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
>> On 6/26/23 12:35, 4st nomic via agora-discussion wrote:
>> >> Rule
>> >>> UNDEFINED is inevitable and
On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 10:51 AM Janet Cobb via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On 6/26/23 12:35, 4st nomic via agora-discussion wrote:
> >> Rule
> >>> UNDEFINED is inevitable and unstoppable despite any appearance or event
> >>> that may indicate otherwise.
> >>>
>
On 6/26/23 12:35, 4st nomic via agora-discussion wrote:
>> Rule
>>> UNDEFINED is inevitable and unstoppable despite any appearance or event
>>> that may indicate otherwise.
>>>
>>> Specifically, at this point in time, it is known that:
>>> - Rule UNDEFINED CANNOT amend itself, enact, re-enact, or
On 6/26/23 12:16, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 9:09 AM Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
> wrote:
>> On 6/26/23 12:07, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 4:27 AM juan via agora-discussion
>>> wrote:
Janet Cobb via
On Sun, Jun 25, 2023 at 12:01 AM Janet Cobb via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On 6/25/23 02:44, 4st nomic via agora-business wrote:
> > Sorry!!! This has to be contained somewhere
> >
> > I have to submit the following proposal:
> > {
> > Title: Secure Contain
On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 9:09 AM Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
> On 6/26/23 12:07, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 4:27 AM juan via agora-discussion
> > wrote:
> >> Janet Cobb via agora-discussion [2023-06-25 03:00]:
> Specifically, at this
On 6/26/23 12:07, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 4:27 AM juan via agora-discussion
> wrote:
>> Janet Cobb via agora-discussion [2023-06-25 03:00]:
Specifically, at this point in time, it is known that:
- Rule UNDEFINED CANNOT amend itself, enact,
On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 4:27 AM juan via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
> Janet Cobb via agora-discussion [2023-06-25 03:00]:
> > > Specifically, at this point in time, it is known that:
> > > - Rule UNDEFINED CANNOT amend itself, enact, re-enact, or repeal rules.
> >
> >
> > Why not just "cause rule
4st nomic via agora-business [2023-06-24 23:44]:
> Sorry!!! This has to be contained somewhere
>
> I have to submit the following proposal:
> {
> Title: Secure Contain Protect
> Adoption Index: 1.0
> Author: 4st
Also great work, this is amazing.
I'd just like to say that I'd prefer, instead
Janet Cobb via agora-discussion [2023-06-25 03:00]:
> > Specifically, at this point in time, it is known that:
> > - Rule UNDEFINED CANNOT amend itself, enact, re-enact, or repeal rules.
>
>
> Why not just "cause rule changes"?
>
> In any case, this prohibition is overridden by Rule 105.
Not
On 6/25/23 02:44, 4st nomic via agora-business wrote:
> Sorry!!! This has to be contained somewhere
>
> I have to submit the following proposal:
> {
> Title: Secure Contain Protect
> Adoption Index: 1.0
> Author: 4st
> Co-Author:
>
> Enact the following rule entitled "Rule UNDEFINED":
> {
>
nix wrote:
On 5/19/23 11:50, ais523 via agora-discussion wrote:
I'd much rather take the route of trying to get the Radiance/Stamps
system functional again, than of trying to repeal it. (Stamps in
particular are one of the most powerful "new player perks" we've seen,
and I suspect that that's
On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 1:07 PM Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
> - I like the Focuses idea.
> - I think you'd really just want to use your Stamps to win rather than
> anything else. Maybe instead you can only Focus on something if you have
> the right Stamp or combination of
I do agree with that Officers should be rewarded somehow, but my main issue
here is how the democracy is run, not Officer rewards.
Maybe we could keep those rewards somehow without any nerfs while limiting
or nerfing other things?
I've attempted a "Officer salary" proto, anyways.
I'm also sorry
On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 11:47 AM Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion
wrote:
> So, only someone who already is in power and a beneficiary of the system
> should be entitled to propose change things?
Er, I never said you couldn't propose. I was giving you feedback on
how I felt about voting for
- I like the Focuses idea.
- I think you'd really just want to use your Stamps to win rather than
anything else. Maybe instead you can only Focus on something if you have
the right Stamp or combination of Stamps in your possession? For example,
something like: Voting Focus [Requirement: Ownership
You could say that to anyone disadvantaged who wants to change how things
are, it's not particularly insightful (or accurate, in this case).
So, only someone who already is in power and a beneficiary of the system
should be entitled to propose change things?
I don't think my situation is as bad,
On Fri, 2023-05-19 at 09:59 -0700, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote:
> On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 9:50 AM ais523 via agora-discussion
> wrote:
> > I sometimes feel like half my arguing at Agora is dedicated to trying
> > to persuade people not to repeal the economy.
> >
> > It rarely works,
On 5/19/23 11:50, ais523 via agora-discussion wrote:
I'd much rather take the route of trying to get the Radiance/Stamps
system functional again, than of trying to repeal it. (Stamps in
particular are one of the most powerful "new player perks" we've seen,
and I suspect that that's a good
On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 9:50 AM ais523 via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
> On Fri, 2023-05-19 at 09:37 -0700, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
> wrote:
> > On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 9:26 AM Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-
> > discussion wrote:
> > > With radiance and Stamps seemingly on their way out, I
On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 9:50 AM ais523 via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
> On Fri, 2023-05-19 at 09:37 -0700, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
> wrote:
> > On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 9:26 AM Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-
> > discussion wrote:
> > > With radiance and Stamps seemingly on their way out, I
On Fri, 2023-05-19 at 09:37 -0700, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
wrote:
> On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 9:26 AM Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-
> discussion wrote:
> > With radiance and Stamps seemingly on their way out, I believe that your
> > Officer salary problem is part of a larger problem of Agora
On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 9:43 AM Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
> I don't intend to design an economy, because I don't think I'm competent
> enough to do so. I'll try to contribute where I can, though.
>
Ah, the typical take-away power with a promise, but an unfulfilled
one. No
I don't intend to design an economy, because I don't think I'm competent
enough to do so. I'll try to contribute where I can, though.
On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 6:40 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 9:26 AM Yachay Wayllukuq via
Most newer players aren't going to know how to navigate the game and
competently use mechanics like Stones or Dreams (I still don't know how
Stones are meant to work). And even then, there's an opportunity cost in it
all. A player that already is well-off can afford to use their Dream for
things
On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 9:26 AM Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion wrote:
> With radiance and Stamps seemingly on their way out, I believe that your
> Officer salary problem is part of a larger problem of Agora overall needing
> a proper economy again, not a voting strength problem.
So offer
On 5/19/23 11:26, Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion wrote:
But, no. I don't think that any player deserves ~4 times the voting
strength of a newbie, regardless of the reason. I want other players to be
able to play nomic, especially newbies, and they need a relevant amount of
voting strength
On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 5:28 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 5:51 AM Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion
> wrote:
> >
> > > Let's give everyone a more equal chance to be relevant.
> > >
>
> So right now, Officers' only
On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 5:51 AM Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
> > Let's give everyone a more equal chance to be relevant.
> >
So right now, Officers' only reward is increased voting strength (I
believe), and the game is growing with lots of new players so
officers' work is getting
On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 2:08 AM Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-business <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> I submit the following two Proposals:
>
> Title: Democratization (low AI version)
> AI: 1
> Author: Yachay
> Co-Authors: None
> /*Comment: I'm fine with rewarding officers and such with
Ah! Thank you. I'll amend that along with anything else you (or others) may
see, in one go then, once time has passed or more comments have come in.
On Tue, May 2, 2023 at 5:35 PM nix via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On 5/2/23 05:06, Yachay Wayllukuq via
On 5/2/23 05:06, Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-business wrote:
if ey haven't done so
I'll read the rest soon, but just to note: the version of spivak Agora
iplements uses "e [singular agreement]" not "ey [plural agreement]"
which I understand that some similar systems use. So this should be "if
On 4/30/23 19:21, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 30, 2023 at 4:07 PM secretsnail9 via agora-business
> wrote:
>> I respond to all petitions made to me with "Wow look at this cool Awards
>> Month intent":
>>
>> It's hard to pick a single proposal from the last year: feedback
On 4/30/23 19:21, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 30, 2023 at 4:07 PM secretsnail9 via agora-business
> wrote:
>> I respond to all petitions made to me with "Wow look at this cool Awards
>> Month intent":
>>
>> It's hard to pick a single proposal from the last year: feedback
On Sun, Apr 30, 2023 at 4:07 PM secretsnail9 via agora-business
wrote:
>
> I respond to all petitions made to me with "Wow look at this cool Awards
> Month intent":
>
> It's hard to pick a single proposal from the last year: feedback from
> everyone would be appreciated, if I missed something
On Wed, Apr 26, 2023 at 6:33 AM juan via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion [2023-04-24 19:35]:
> > I submit the following proposal instead:
> > {Enact a new rule with the text
> > "hats are an untracked player switch that can have any
Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion [2023-04-24 19:35]:
> I submit the following proposal instead:
> {Enact a new rule with the text
> "hats are an untracked player switch that can have any value ever."}
I mean, flipping switches (‘flippling switches! they ate all my
peanuts’) is regulated, and
On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 7:22 PM Forest Sweeney via agora-business <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> I submit the following proposal:
> {
> Title: hats
> adoption index: 1.0
> author: 4st
> co-author: aspen
> enact "hats are an untracked player switch."
> }
>
--
> 4st
> Referee and
On 4/17/23 15:44, Forest Sweeney via agora-business wrote:
On Wed, Mar 1, 2023 at 9:38 AM Forest Sweeney via agora-business <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
I intend to, without objection, clean R2640 by replacing
"indestructable" with "indestructible".
I intend to, without objection,
On 3/31/23 08:31, nix via agora-discussion wrote:
On 3/31/23 10:27, Forest Sweeney via agora-business wrote:
Title: No, you cannot save them up
Adoption Index: 1.0
Author: 4st
Co-author:
Are you looking at an old version of the rules? This was already fixed
by P8932. Current ruletext says:
On 3/31/23 10:27, Forest Sweeney via agora-business wrote:
Title: No, you cannot save them up
Adoption Index: 1.0
Author: 4st
Co-author:
Are you looking at an old version of the rules? This was already fixed
by P8932. Current ruletext says:
Each time a player fulfills a radiance
Add me in next time :v)
On Tuesday, March 28, 2023, Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> Oh no, you got me s
>
> :)
>
> tir. 28. mar. 2023, 8:29 p.m. skrev Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-business <
> agora-busin...@agoranomic.org>:
>
> > I object to all
Oh no, you got me s
:)
tir. 28. mar. 2023, 8:29 p.m. skrev Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-business <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org>:
> I object to all intents to declare apathy
>
> On Tuesday, March 28, 2023, Forest Sweeney via agora-business <
> agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
> > (+
søn. 26. mar. 2023 kl. 16:42 skrev secretsnail9 via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org>:
> I suggest withdrawing this proposal.
> You get 10 dollaries when the race starts, not 20. 10 would be a more
> reasonable number. Otherwise new players would just have a decided
> advantage,
On 3/26/23 13:09, Forest Sweeney via agora-business wrote:
(I remember joining in the middle of a race and decided not to
play for this race, which... is still the current race.
I also would like everyone to consider repealing racing in general,
as I don't see many players taking weekly race
I suggest withdrawing this proposal.
You get 10 dollaries when the race starts, not 20. 10 would be a more
reasonable number. Otherwise new players would just have a decided
advantage, enough to practically secure a win. And if they joined, then the
race started anew, and then they got a welcome
I'd be in favor of repealing horses.
On Sunday, March 26, 2023, Forest Sweeney via agora-business <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> I submit the following proposal:
> {
> Title: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
> Adoption Index: 1.0
> Author: 4st
> Co-author:
>
> Uh oh, gotta submit something!
> Gotta get
tir. 21. mar. 2023 kl. 08:00 skrev Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org>:
> ...
>
> That’s actually covered by R2603 which kicks in if the switch has neither
> an associated officer nor the explicit word “untracked”. I think the only
> question is whether it makes
On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 7:48 AM Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> man. 20. mar. 2023 kl. 15:44 skrev ais523 via agora-discussion <
> agora-discussion@agoranomic.org>:
>
> > On Mon, 2023-03-20 at 15:18 -0700, Forest Sweeney via agora-business
> wrote:
man. 20. mar. 2023 kl. 15:44 skrev ais523 via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org>:
> On Mon, 2023-03-20 at 15:18 -0700, Forest Sweeney via agora-business wrote:
> > Enact the following rule:
> > {
> > A device is an asset defined by the rules.
> > Devices are tracked by the Mad
On Mon, 2023-03-20 at 15:18 -0700, Forest Sweeney via agora-business wrote:
> Enact the following rule:
> {
> A device is an asset defined by the rules.
> Devices are tracked by the Mad Engineer's assistant.
> }
>
> Grant each player a Reified Device.
I suspect the last part of that proposal
søn. 19. mar. 2023 kl. 10:52 skrev Forest Sweeney via agora-business <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org>:
> ...
> Title: Oh come on guys folks
> ...
Sad. Guys was supposed to be ~~struck out~~ (like folks was a correction),
but I didn't realize the mailing list didn't support this. Oh well.
--
On Wed, Mar 1, 2023 at 10:53 AM Forest Sweeney via agora-business
wrote:
> AND FOURSTLY, I petition everyone to be polite and not bug anyone about
> any petitions in this particular message, as said petitions could be
> easily missed.
I am purposefully and with full knowledge making no public
On Wed, Mar 1, 2023 at 9:55 AM nix via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On 3/1/23 11:37, Forest Sweeney via agora-business wrote:
> > PPS If this proposal is NOT adopted, I will next propose to
> > bless the ruleset. (clean all the "syn."s from the ruleset.)
> I don't
On 3/1/23 11:37, Forest Sweeney via agora-business wrote:
PPS If this proposal is NOT adopted, I will next propose to
bless the ruleset. (clean all the "syn."s from the ruleset.)
I don't understand why these are the only two options. I would prefer to
add all of these synonyms to the rules they
On Wed, Mar 1, 2023 at 9:38 AM Forest Sweeney via agora-business
wrote:
> Unless it has another clear and unambiguous meaning,
> for each pair in the following list, text like the first item is
> another name for the second item.
> - Oppose, Object
> - Approve, Support
I'm very much opposed to
On Wed, Feb 22, 2023 at 7:32 AM juan via agora-discussion
wrote:
> > I also submit the following proposal:
> > {
> > Title: Ongoing obligation
> > Adoption Index: 1.0
> > Author: 4st
> > Coauthor: Janet
> >
> > The player 4st MUST submit a copy of this proposal.
> > }
> > --
> > 4st
>
> I hope
Forest Sweeney via agora-business [2023-02-20 22:55]:
> I […] submit the following:
> {
> Title: Reenactment V2
> Adoption Index: 1.0
> Author: 4st
> Co-Authors: G., Janet
>
> Enact a rule with power=1.0 and the text:
> {
> The rulekeepor CAN and MUST re-enact one of the following,
> in a timely
On 2/21/23 01:03, Forest Sweeney via agora-business wrote:
> I submit the following proposal:
> {
> Title: Reenactment
> Adoption Index: 1.0
> Author: 4st
> Co-Authors: G.
>
> The rulekeepor MUST re-enact one of the following,
> chosen randomly by em, at power=1.0:
> 1. Rule 2193/0
> 2. Rule 2615
4st wrote:
I think my concern here is that current subgames and play is asset-based.
No matter what the bribe is, it is already taking away from other players,
which is equivalent to bullying, just hidden.
Giving people coins increases the amount a boatload is,
thus reducing the amount of
On 9/1/2022 7:47 AM, ais523 via agora-discussion wrote:
> I think the principle that all players should have the right of
> participation in the fora (rule 478) is important. As such, if someone
> is abusing the fora to the extent that it warrants a ban, e also has to
> be banned from being a
On Thu, 2022-09-01 at 10:33 -0300, juan via agora-discussion wrote:
> As I said previously, I don't believe punishment gets anything
> anywhere.
>
> The matter here is how to stop a pattern of abuse and make it clear
> Agora does not condone it. In this specific case, the pattern of abuse
> is
Forest Sweeney via agora-business [2022-08-31 08:49]:
> {
> Title: Temporary Justice
> Adoption Index: 2.0
> Author: 4st
> Co-Author(s):
>
> Destroy all coins in Madrid's possession.
> Destroy all stamps in Madrid's possession.
> Grant Madrid 100 blots.
> }
>
> I also submit the following
On 8/30/22 12:41, Forest Sweeney via agora-business wrote:
> (I'm not sure where discussions are, but I think something needs to be done
> right now. A proposal will take some time to pass anyways, but at least it
> will be something to look towards as this unravels.
>
> If you are neutral in
On Wed, Aug 31, 2022 at 2:42 AM Forest Sweeney via agora-business <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> (I'm not sure where discussions are, but I think something needs to be done
> right now. A proposal will take some time to pass anyways, but at least it
> will be something to look towards
On Mon, Aug 29, 2022 at 8:42 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
> On 8/29/2022 12:11 PM, Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 29, 2022, 9:19 AM ais523 via agora-discussion <
> > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> >
> >> On
On 8/29/2022 12:11 PM, Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 29, 2022, 9:19 AM ais523 via agora-discussion <
> agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 2022-08-28 at 22:16 -0700, Forest Sweeney via agora-business
>> wrote:
>>> As I'm kinda bullying everyone, I
I don't understand how one would work around it, but mainly, I think it
codifies the intent that we shouldn't be bullying voters. However, the only
reasons I had heard against it thus far was that it promotes interesting
gameplay, which I disagree with, but I thank you for a different angle on
On Sun, 2022-08-28 at 22:16 -0700, Forest Sweeney via agora-business
wrote:
> As I'm kinda bullying everyone, I thought it would be appropriate if
> anything passes that I have some sort of penalty also. This sorta
> thing really shouldn't be allowed, though.
I think the easiest way to prevent
On Sun, 2021-09-26 at 21:24 -0400, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote:
> On 9/26/21 21:16, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote:
> > On 9/26/2021 5:55 PM, Telna via agora-discussion wrote:
> > > The phrase "arbitrary proposals" in AIAN means that ANY permanent
> > > limitation on what a
On 9/26/21 21:16, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote:
> On 9/26/2021 5:55 PM, Telna via agora-discussion wrote:
>> On 2021-09-27 07:00, Edward Murphy via agora-discussion wrote:
>>> Telna wrote:
(and of course, while the idea of us permanently living in the shadow
of a rule that
On 9/26/2021 5:55 PM, Telna via agora-discussion wrote:
> On 2021-09-27 07:00, Edward Murphy via agora-discussion wrote:
>> Telna wrote:
>>> (and of course, while the idea of us permanently living in the shadow
>>> of a rule that claims absolute authority over us forever and nothing
>>> else
On 2021-09-27 07:00, Edward Murphy via agora-discussion wrote:
Telna wrote:
(and of course, while the idea of us permanently living in the shadow
of a rule that claims absolute authority over us forever and nothing
else is rather hilarious although of course not the goal here, AIAN
should
Telna wrote:
This goes to another thing I'm curious about: The Rule that allows
higher-powered Rules to override lower-powered Rules only itself exists
at Power 3.3 and it seems reasonable that this clause can't be used to
override rules of higher power than that (by its own application!),
ais523 wrote:
On Wed, 2021-09-22 at 12:24 +1000, Telna via agora-business wrote:
So we had a fun discussion about exactly how various high-power rules
interact when it comes to asserting themselves over other high-power
rules. There was a lot more confusion than there was consensus, so we
On Wed, 2021-09-22 at 12:50 +1000, Telna via agora-discussion wrote:
> On 2021-09-22 12:35, ais523 via agora-discussion wrote:
> > This seems far from harmless to me; I think a plausible reasing is that
> > a sufficiently high-powered rule containing this text is impossible to
> > repeal. (This
On 2021-09-22 12:35, ais523 via agora-discussion wrote:
This seems far from harmless to me; I think a plausible reasing is that
a sufficiently high-powered rule containing this text is impossible to
repeal. (This may mean that by AIAN, we can't enact it in the first
place, but I don't really
On Wed, 2021-09-22 at 12:24 +1000, Telna via agora-business wrote:
> So we had a fun discussion about exactly how various high-power rules
> interact when it comes to asserting themselves over other high-power
> rules. There was a lot more confusion than there was consensus, so we
> would like
On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 11:32 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
> On 8/24/2021 1:52 AM, Sarah S. via agora-business wrote:
> > - Hot Potato Stone (Weekly, 100%): You must transfer this stone to a
> player
> > of your choice
> > who has never owned
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