I've got a great lineup of artists to help me celebrate the release of my
latest book, Are You Listening? -- a look at the Top 100 Albums of 2001-2010
by New Jersey Artists. Books will be for sale and can be signed if you wish.
Admission is $5 and music runs from 7pm to midnight.
Here's the
There's good software out there that'll create a pirate station for less
than $500. Simple hardware added to a computer with about a 10 watt reach.
I'd love for them to open up a way for LPFM licenses rather than run the
risk of going pirate... But it's tempting :)
Mike Hemeon wrote:
You
Oak,
The idea of going pirate is extremely tempting for many of us with
internet radio stations. If I had just 5-10 watts, I could easily reach
100,000 people on the beach each summer.
That's a bit more than my potential right now :)
oakdorf wrote:
--- jack read this. Let ur pirate
Twisted Covers returns for its first show of 2009 this Sunday at the
Twisted Tree Cafe on Cookman. Twisted Covers is a monthly show that
features artists from the tri-state area covering a spotlighted artist
and playing their original tunes as well. Admission is free and the
show is open to
Grock was just a shell of the station that the old 106.3 was. As far as
sponsoring shows in the area, most of the time radio stations aren't
bringing these acts to the area they are just promoting the show through
advertising. The acts will still come, the venues will just have to
find other
The big difference is that Asbury Park could really do something with
music history (or New Jersey music history) while South Carolina was
trying to do something for Led Zeppelin fans... odd, considering that's
a band from Britain.
dsher4 wrote:
This is not intended to tweak anyone but i
I can honestly say I have never visited the Fox website, so it
definitely wasn't me even though I agree with the poster.
Let's face it, a LOT of publications do very well as shopper
publications (i.e. just ads) -- if you want another example in our
backyard just look at Night Day Magazine.
As a former publisher, I give Tri City full props for making it this
far; however, I doubt many in business would think a good business model
would be to charge the same price for advertising today as they did for
their first issue 7 or 8 (however long its been) years ago.
I say this because
There are a lot of music fans who would agree with this idea...
wernerapnj wrote:
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mailto:AsburyPark%40yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I could never understand how a small place could hold a venue for some
of the big names there!
Twisted Covers returns this Sunday to the Twisted Tree Cafe with the
spotlight on the band HEART. Music starts at 5pm and admission is free.
Artists scheduled to perform include Divine Sign, Eryn Shewell, Maybe
Pete, Catherine Wacha, Pat Ruh and more.
This will be the last Twisted Covers show
Twisted Covers returns to the Twisted Tree Cafe this Sunday with a
spotlight on the career of Johnny Cash. We'll be remembering the fifth
anniversary of The Man In Black's passing with a stellar lineup of
artists. Scheduled to perform are such artists as Michael Patrick, Jon
Caspi, George
The beaches are also free in one of New Jersey's most populated tourism
areas - Wildwood.
As someone that lives in a beach town, I largely question the beach
fees. I don't know any towns that offer a discounted beach rate for
those who live in the town and I think that's pretty ridiculous.
LOL, That's probably because Julian Cope was late for his own show (he
was hanging at the Stone Pony watching Bruce) - at least that's the
story I was told by several folks.
Jack Pitzer wrote:
I once got mistaken for Julian Cope at a Julian Cope show there. I
think I even signed a few
I've questioned how the meters were implemented - specifically running
the meters until 2am and using a system that was tried, failed and
removed in Belmar within the past few years. I wouldn't call that
whining, I call it criticisms. If Asbury Park was one of several towns
to run meters
Very cool news! I wish them a lot of success.
Jack Pitzer wrote:
Have any of you checked out the new Tides Hotel on 7th Ave?
It's truly amazing. I went for a tour yesterday. Beautiful rooms,
really cool bar, restaurant and
lobby. Totally hip. They even have a nice big pool out back.
The
I'd much rather have parking garages making a fortune than parking
meters, but that's probably just me. I've always thought you could do
more - include more car spaces in a limited area - with a parking garage
than meters.
As for the meters, I didn't have a problem using them with change, but
I don't think it's wrong to be critical of the way the system was
implemented.This is a system, which people have shown quite a bit of
confusion in using - one that had at least one local town (Belmar)
eliminate the system for that very reason. The meters also run a good
5 hours longer
Belmar actually tried a parking meter system like that a year or two but
removed it in favor of the old system of one meter per space because too
many people complained about not understanding where they should be
paying for their spot.
New signs would definitely be helpful as there are areas
I love how the left is portrayed as having no original thoughts yet I
would imagine the vast majority of writers to lean towards the left.
The left is portrayed as having no sense of humor yet the majority of
comedians lean towards the left.
The left is portrayed as the intellectual elite yet
It was inevitable that parking meters would show up someday, but I can't
believe they've got the meters going until 2am! Last night, I saw three
people get parking tickets around 9pm. There must have been about 800 or
more empty spaces, but the parking enforcement was full out checking up
on
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mailto:AsburyPark%40yahoogroups.com, lightgrw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think it's probably smart to have meters on ocean avenue like most
shore towns do. I don't think it's so smart to have meters all over
the
place like they do. And, it's not very bright at all to have
Twisted Covers returns to the Twisted Tree Cafe on Sunday for our final
show of the summer! We'll be featuring songs by 80s legend, The
Replacements. Admission is free and the show runs from 5pm to 8pm, so
enjoy the beach and then come hang out with some of the area's top
musicians.
Artists
Understood, but that was them being obvious. The parking meters
basically make me think twice about wanting to go out in that area -
especially when I see parking attendants all over the place at 9pm.
This is a lot more sneaky imo.
wernerapnj wrote:
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No,
Maybe that's why I never go to Seaside... LOL
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Go to Seaside, meters till 2am and the charge off-season near the beach.
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That's what I thought too, but Asbury has had them out big time Thursday
and Friday night this week.
justifiedright wrote:
Don't quote me cause Im not certain but I didn't think any town
enforced meters after 5 or 6, and certainly not after sundown.
Although they do go to Liverpool to visit the Cavern Club... which isn't
the real Cavern Club.
arcman210 wrote:
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mailto:AsburyPark%40yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Had lunch at Brickwall. Met a couple from the UK. They asked
The original ideas were NOT for a ROCK and ROLL museum - it was a museum
highlighting the entire history of music in New Jersey. This history,
in case you're not familiar with the artists, is pretty extensive. In
fact, many musical firsts throughout our country's history were done or
created
Twisted Covers returns this Sunday with a spotlight on the career of The
Who and solo work by Pete Townshend. The show features some of the best
artists from the area performing two covers and then an original song or
two. We hold it on the last Sunday of each month at the Twisted Tree
Cafe
Twisted Covers returns this Sunday with a spotlight on the career of The
Who and solo work by Pete Townshend. The show features some of the best
artists from the area performing two covers and then an original song or
two. We hold it on the last Sunday of each month at the Twisted Tree
Cafe on
Downtown is definitely a big part of it, but one thing that many people
doubted is also true. People simply didn't believe that Asbury Park
could be a tourist destination again. Let's be honest here. How many
people on this board said things like people have given up on Asbury for
Point
. The numbers
of people on the boardwalk, last weekend's gridlock; yes, tourism is
coming back. This is good, but I still have reservations with regard
to the City as a whole.
I should place a disclaimer here, lightgrw, that this post is
a general post and not intended as a rebuttal to your post.
We
I have and still do agree with you 100% on this Werner.
And it's nice to see the crowds even on weekends where people can't say
things like yeah but crowds will always come on holidays --- these are
tourism built crowds. And it's great to see again...
wernerapnj wrote:
Asbury Park appears
Asbury Park had another great year of fireworks with a crowd bigger than
any I have seen since the early 80s. Scenes like last night make me
seriously wonder why some people doubt Asbury Park could be a tourist
attraction again. I'm sure many city residents were watching the
fireworks
What I meant was that this weekend was another reminder as to why
tourism would probably be an easier sell than million dollar condos...
charlie wrote:
Asbury Park had another great year of fireworks with a crowd bigger than
any I have seen since the early 80s. Scenes like last night make me
Well, I think I can speak from experience here (as the publisher and
owner of Upstage Magazine for its first four years) -- there is FAR too
much politics around here regarding the venues and where they
advertise. My publication had an audience that was well within many of
the city magazines
) that don't realize advertising is key to luring crowds and making
money.
sandpiper15 wrote:
I had no idea. Sounds like these folks never left high school, which
is quite telling.
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Well, I
If you're looking for something to do this Sunday, you should consider
checking out Twisted Covers! This month features a spotlight on the
career of Tom Waits. The show runs from 5pm to 8pm at the Twisted Tree
Cafe on Cookman and admission is free.
Artists scheduled to perform include
Hesh,
The only mention I saw in the paper was in the concert calendar where
they listed:
The Saint - Wave Gathering Festival, artists TBA
Shockingly, a festival with over 175 artists didn't even warrant a spot
on their picks for the week ahead.
My guess is that the festival didn't take out
There's a lot more MAC users on this list...
rook782 wrote:
Also funny that Werner, Oak and Jack are MAC users. I know there are
arguments back and forth about MAC, but I thought it funny the three
of you are MAC users.
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I would so love an Apple store in Asbury...
Just picked up an iphone in Freehold the other day. I've got two Macs
to go along with about 4 pcs. I absolutely hate the PCs but need them
for certain pieces of software.
I'd imagine that about 75% of the folks who give Macs a chance, never go
Twisted Covers Presents 'Locals Covering Locals'
(ASBURY PARK, NJ) -- Twisted Covers makes its return to the Twisted Tree
Cafe in Asbury Park on Sunday, February 24th with a very special
performance of locals covering songs by other local artists! The show
starts at 5pm and admission is free
Wasn't The Circus Drive In featured on the Travel Channel or Food
Network last year?
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arcman210 [EMAIL PROTECTED] e:
Lets destroy the Circus Drive In
while we're at it. And the Roadside Diner.
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In case folks are looking for something to do over the weekend in
Asbury Park...
We're holding another Twisted Covers show on this Sunday at the
Twisted Tree Cafe. This month's focus is on Neil Young and we're
trying something new this time around. We've got artists scheduled to
perform every
Sorry to hear that Oak. I'll never forget watching my grandfather pass
away from lung cancer either.
oakdorf wrote:
While I've been watching my father-in-law, age 67, in his final hours
as he dies from
small cell lung cancer it gives you the chance to ask questions...
like this:
New
LOL! You just made my day Oak.
oakdorf wrote:
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It's amazing how difficult it seems to be to have both parties work
together. It's like they are so afraid to have the other side get
justifiedright wrote:
But I share your sentiement. I wish both parties would say enough
is enough and get it done together. Question is which brave soul
rises to speak on it first.
Well, that person would most likely get my vote... and probably the
votes of an awful lot of independent voters.
Tommy,
Why don't you forget about the Republicans and Democrats and run for
Governor under the Common Sense Party?
I agree with most of your ideas. To me, they don't represent a partisan
approach but a common sense approach. I think the reason things like
that don't work is that the
I think that would be an outstanding idea. The building probably has
the space needed and would free up a fantastic piece of property that
could produce a lot of revenue for the city.
oakdorf wrote:
Move muni offices there.
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I agree, I'm sure you'll find that many of the people most dedicated to
Asbury Park do not actually live in the city.
dfsavgny wrote:
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mailto:AsburyPark%40yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
for AP for those people who live
here and
One of the biggest mistakes Asbury Park makes in my opinion is failing
to grasp just how much of a tourist town Asbury Park really is. It
means more to people around the world than many in town either realize
or want to believe. There are those on this board who live in town,
those who live
Boy you really like to see the bright side in everything!
Yes, it's definitely good news that MM is taking over for Kushner, but
the news about Metro was a disaster and having Kushner give up on Asbury
Park wasn't very good either.
I mean, Kushner was a developer with pretty deep pockets
I guess there's always a first time :)
oakdorf wrote:
FOr the city to approve the deal, there has to to be a real plan, real
time lines and some financial guarantees tied to those timelines -
right Dan?
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cwpvt wrote:
I agree, except for the Electoral College, if we just used the popular
vote, small states and smaller portions of the electorate would have no
say what so ever, they would only campaign in and for NY, CA, TX and FL,
nothing else would much matter, including NJ, not to mention
oakdorf wrote:
A couple of places to eat and shop (please skip the it's so pricey...)
Skip any focus ont he Esperanza and stay on top of that redevelopment
zone. There's about another 55 acres to work with.
***
But isn't that the whole idea many of us have been
Growing up in New Jersey, I first got involved with the environment
through local Republican politicians. Around here, it's kind of hard
to get elected unless the ocean and beaches matter to you. I never
understood why global warming was a partisan issue either. Apparently,
too many
justifiedright wrote:
I think you proved their point. Some people believe that the
scientific issue is settled, and not only disagree with, but cast
personal aspersions on anyone who speaks a contrary view.
How is that different from the right wing establishment basically
categorizing
Actually, I'd say most people would say the Washington Times and Mother
Jones are about equal with regards to being reputable.
justifiedright wrote:
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wrote:
Discussing this topic with you
dfsavgny wrote:
I am simply amazed at development down in here at the Shore. I have
never, never seen projects move so slow with too small crews.
I don't know, for some reason Asbury Park moves MUCH SLOWER than
everywhere else. I realize that a lot of these projects are much bigger
in scale
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Interestingly, *Mitchell * called for tougher testing but said players
should not be punished for “past misdeeds.”
That's kind of how I feel too, although some of the steroids were most
likely illegal in the United States. If that was the case then how do
you really treat this situation on a
From the article, Keady said:
“The year-round community needs to benefit from the fact that Asbury Park
needs to be a resort destination,” he said. “We need to go back to what
worked in the past for Asbury Park.”
He continued, “What worked in the past would work for it in the future.”
Is it possible that Metro is also looking at the sales figures for some
of the other projects like the Steinbach's building and blaming the
housing market in Asbury Park as much or more than national housing
problems.
I'm not sure how many people have moved into places like the Steinbach's
True, but eventually accountability and results have to come into play
as well. If someone looked at the various condo projects in Asbury for
the redevelopment for the first time and saw a few with limited
residents, a few totally empty, and projects stalled... wouldn't that
make them question
oakdorf wrote:
Gary,
I think the steinbach building (which is a rental) has 38 vacancies.
Thats out of 63.
** looks like there are 2 floors with about 3-4 apts rented. The
person must have been in one of those areas.
I just think that if the Steinbach's building is a hard sell,
I think the think that bothers people the most is that - at least from
an outsider's perspective - it doesn't appear that the Council holds
Asbury Partners accountable for either their actions or the contract
originally signed. There has been too many loopholes, including those
set up in the
Ok, I'll admit my ignorance when it comes to housing issues and how that
all plays into tax dollars (the whole abatement issue confuses me with
regards to this as well) but anyway...
Can anyone explain to me how Asbury Park would be better off with the
several condo projects planned and those
When I had an office in town it seemed like everyone ate at either
Frank's, TJ's or went to Clancy's.
I agree with you, Asbury is bigger than a one restaurant for lunch.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 12/12/2007 7:20:44 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
And with sales jumping like that, why stop now?
oakdorf wrote:
In an article dated Dec 6
FIFTY was the number:
“Since sales began three months ago, The Esperanza has sold more than
50 homes, proving the burgeoning interest in Asbury Park,� said
developer Dean Geibel, managing partner
Or at least take another look on whether or not it is wise (for anyone)
to have so many condo projects undergoing at the same time. Maybe they
should go from one finished project to another rather than hope there's
enough people to want to move to Asbury to fill all of the places planned.
Awesome! Way to go!
dfsavgny wrote:
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FINAL SCORE 20-0
LOOKS LIKE A PARADE IS IN ORDER FOR ALL ASBURY PARK BLUE BISHOP TEAMS
Great news. Good work Bishops. They dug down deep.
Excellent Werner! One of your best!
I always talk of Asbury Park with regards to another sci-fi show --
trust no one
wernerapnj wrote:
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mailto:AsburyPark%40yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
Most newspapers are no longer doing subscriptions. The NYTimes stopped
their special subscription months ago and even the Wall Street Journal
is debating about going all free.
The future of online news is free based on advertising. The newspaper
companies have known that for years but kept
On Jan 18, 2007, at 2:44 PM, Hinge wrote:
So what would you speculate that this means for the future of The
Baronet etc?
More importantly, what does this mean for the future of entertainment
in Asbury Park? To everyone who has faith in Asbury Park remember
that Convention Hall and Paramount
Tommy,
AsburyMusic.com and Upstage are already ahead of ya! Hope we can count
on your support.
We've got an online petition up at:
http://www.asburymusic.com/petition
The Wonder Bar has been a huge supporter of Upstage Magazine from our
first issue. The Wonder Bar and Upstage Magazine got
I wish you best of luck with the Baronet and Fastlane. Some of the
best years of my life were spent at the Fastlane.
One thing I don't understand about Asbury Park is why so few of the
venues both to use the free event listing at AsburyMusic.com and
UpstageMagazine.com
I'd say conservatively,
On Dec 28, 2006, at 3:08 PM, justifiedright wrote:
I guess it depends on what people think. If they think there is
200 Bloods, then I respectfully disagree - the gang problem is
actually far less than what they think.
Tommy,
Why do you believe so strongly that the number is less than 200?
On Dec 28, 2006, at 4:45 PM, oakdorf wrote:
And whomever said the partners should be responsible, I think they
should be concerned, but not responsible.
I'm not saying the Partners should be responsible for the gangs but I
do believe that regardless of how many gang members are actually
On Dec 28, 2006, at 5:11 PM, justifiedright wrote:
Outsourcing police protection to private enterprise? Ronald Reagan
would be proud of you Gary. You are far more a Conservative
Rupublican than I am! :-)
That's what I've been trying to tell you...
members.
I can't imagine them not being one.
Gangs are like unions. I doubt there are very many freelance pimps in
AP.
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On Dec 28, 2006, at 3:08 PM, justifiedright wrote:
I guess it depends on what people think
Tommy,
Unfortunately it's like I told you several weeks ago, even people who
have been in Asbury for over 30 years and never felt scared there are
now feeling scared.
This is issue #1 for the city and issue #1 for the redevelopment. For
a few years, people didn't want to believe that
On Dec 27, 2006, at 3:47 PM, justifiedright wrote:
I was simply reporting that I felt uneasy. Apparantly I'm starting
to fall for the hype. I'm mad at myself for letting that happen. If
it can happen to me, our more suburbanite neighbors will never come
here.
But that's just it... this
On Dec 19, 2006, at 8:14 AM, Traderdube wrote:
Hinge my boy, I just knew you were going to rant over Danny boys
anti-Soap rant. I read the article and I am not ashamed to say that
for
all intents and purposes, I agree with Dan. A plaque on the boardwalk
is
almost as big a pile of krap as
On Dec 19, 2006, at 12:08 PM, arhythmick wrote:
One of you music believers will take a chance and organize a small
concert...you will be handsomely rewarded financially for your risk
(and
your correct gut feel)...and that will be the birth of the Asbury Park
Summer Concert Series!
I
Gee, rolemover is one of the 100,000 people to regular visit my website
- now I'm impressed! And I thought you only stuck you your little town
publication.
It's nice to know you must have failed reading comprehension in high
school (if you made it that far)
Following Steel Mill was
Thanks to the timing of his post... I am now 100% sure I know of the
identity of rolemover.
Can I get $1000 for outting him?
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On Dec 11, 2006, at 10:50 AM, Hinge wrote:
Funny that the only thing you mentioned that he took as bad was the
comment about
roadies, which I agree with.
I think rolemover just likes to start crap with people.▪
I know many of the people on this list have seen plenty of benefits at
the
Jim highlights the criminality and the need for more cops to fight
it. In fact he seeks 20 more cops. A strong message to the thugs
that we won't allow them to continue in this City.
I can just hear people about to say don't tell them what to do with
their money but here goes...
I
If you demand facts to be presented, I assume that you do not read the
weekly paper in Asbury. I've never seen a publication so flippant
about being factual.
On Dec 5, 2006, at 12:50 PM, Allan Peterson wrote:
Oh I thought Maureen wrote the top part and Werner supplied the note.
So
On Dec 4, 2006, at 10:13 AM, Kevin Brown wrote:
I am against the forced taking of any privately owned property. That
is inhabitable, paid up in taxes and not in such disrepair as to be
considered unsafe.
That's the way I feel too. As long as the building or property is
currently being
On Nov 13, 2006, at 10:00 AM, Debbie DeLisa wrote:
x-tad-bigger You can pick up The Upstage at The Wonder Bar/x-tad-bigger
For the record, you can pick up Upstage in about 30 places in Asbury Park/Ocean Grove area; over 100 places in Monmouth County; and over 250 places throughout Central
x-tad-bigger > > an OUT OF TOWNER!!! please dont say WE when you talk about asbury anymore, /x-tad-bigger
x-tad-bigger > > it is an insult to the LONGTIME tax payers here...sam 8th ave resident/x-tad-bigger
x-tad-bigger > > /x-tad-bigger
It is also the attitude of long-time Asbury residents like
BTW Rolemover, if you're so against people who do not live in Asbury making decisions or suggestions for the town how do you feel about the people in charge of the redevelopment? They were not Asbury long-timers. They're in it for the money. I would have thought you would have been outraged
On Nov 3, 2006, at 11:01 AM, Fred wrote:
x-tad-biggerSurprised Gary didn't Post this./x-tad-bigger
x-tad-bigger THE CREATORS OF S.O.A.P. RETURN TO ASBURY/x-tad-bigger
Why would I post an article I wrote?
The article is running in the current issue of Upstage Magazine, which is available in
x-tad-bigger Unbelievable. The balls on this guy. I wrote him myself. I may be crude /x-tad-bigger
x-tad-bigger and rude but I'm never afraid to put my face against my words. Al must /x-tad-bigger
x-tad-bigger have bought those rose-colored glasses in the ensuing years. What a /x-tad-bigger
On Nov 3, 2006, at 3:59 PM, Hinge wrote:
x-tad-biggerIt's also sad that our excellent police force doesn't get the/x-tad-bigger
x-tad-bigger recognition they deserve. I think they do a great job. I've seen them/x-tad-bigger
x-tad-bigger in action quite a few times, and they're professional,
x-tad-bigger I think it's more that you might bring bad press to the city. The cops /x-tad-bigger
x-tad-bigger are doing a great job, but WE need to do more. It's like not admitting /x-tad-bigger
x-tad-bigger you have cancer and blaming the doctor when he tells you. That's a real /x-tad-bigger
On Nov 3, 2006, at 4:26 PM, Fred wrote:
x-tad-bigger 3000 more arrest this over last year they are fighting crime but /x-tad-bigger
x-tad-bigger violent crimes are hard to predict.
/x-tad-bigger
See you just proved my point. I was not criticizing the police nor did I say they weren't doing
I'm not sure if this has been brought up before and I apologize if it has but I was checking out the website for Asbury Partners today and noticed that in their section for Vision For Asbury Park and the section entitled Scope of the Redevelopment There are the original drawings for the
Gee... year round tourism. What a concept!
On Oct 31, 2006, at 11:09 AM, dfsavgny wrote:
x-tad-biggerThey'll do more in less time. They will finish in the same space of /x-tad-bigger
x-tad-bigger time that Asbury Partners has already wasted and started nothing. /x-tad-bigger
x-tad-bigger From
That's funny, I think that our President lies to the troops every day when he tells them they're fighting to protect America instead of the truth - brokering a civil war in a country we shouldn't be fighting in.
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