Thought I might just throw out a suggestion here. A while ago, I wanted
to try a super duper tweako power supply on my CD Burner, just for
grins. I was gonna build one, but then had a thought.
Went to Ebay and found power supplies on sale that were surplussed from
laboratories. I took a
Mark Lanctot;157893 Wrote:
Well yeah, but that's kind of a marketing statement. They couldn't
possibly have compared it to every single CD player on the market (or
ever made, for that matter). And I'm sure those $10K CD transports
I've heard about have something to them. If they didn't
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highdudgeon;157847 Wrote:
If you get trained musicians to do it, specifically, it would get very
interesting. Why? Because these are people with far more ear training
than any non-musician, and that includes audiophiles
I seem to recall that some years back it was noted that many
more than happy to - I'll email them over when i get home this evening
(I am in London). I will send the DRC files that I have used too ...
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Seems like a lot of trouble and expense for a speaker system that only
goes down to 65Hz.
I don't understand why you're auditioning $25 junk speakers in the
first place - that's too low-priced to expect any type of quality.
Then you swing too far in the other direction with a home-built $500
tomjtx;157970 Wrote:
maybe P. will leave for a long time. I kinda hate to say that, I really
think all should be able to say what they want but his last post seems
so anachronistic,really.
I mean, it seems most everyone has settled down, some light hearted
humor, a serious proposal about
Really folks, I think several of you just need to let go. Clearly, no
one's going to get the last word in, and at this point, all you're
doing is pouring salt into wounds and contributing to the build up of
your own stomach acid.
We're all imperfect creatures. We all have quirks and annoying
or make a reasonable offer on either.
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P Floding;158002 Wrote:
Unlike you I sure as hell don't have time to read all postings here. I
read the initial one, and answered that. I hope that explains things
for you? I don't think this forum works exactly because you and others
demand everyone to be in tune. So when you are all a
fun project. i'm doing something similar, but i'm building these into
the speaker boxes... http://www.amphony.com/products/l1550.htm the
amps sound good and have decent range. i'll have the dc adaptor inside
of the box as well with a standard ac plug mounted on the back. rock.
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For more detailed advice, why not let us know:
- What kind of music you like. If you have lots of parties with drum
and bass, you need a different system to a folk music lover. Most
systems, though, should be good for most kinds of music. Do you like
to play music really loud?
- How big the
I just got SB3 and am using it in my living room stereo system with a
Benchmark DAC1 and Ayre AX7e integrated amp. All three of these devices
have volume controls and from reading in this forum I'm confused as to
whether I MUTE the SB3 digital volume or turn it all the way UP to 100.
Right now I
Pale Blue Ego;157999 Wrote:
Then you swing too far in the other direction with a home-built $500
system that won't sound any better than many $200 - $350 active systems
already available.
(snip)
The Swan M-200 active monitors are rated down to 55Hz and can be found
at newegg.com for $189
I think anybody would be very hard-pressed to build a $200 DIY active
system that could beat the Aego-M. The Aego had something like a
million-dollar RD effort resulting in a new pear-shaped driver design
and zinc-alloy cabinets that are tiny and sonically inert. The drive
units are
adamslim;158059 Wrote:
Oh and in terms of power output, the T-amp only has about 5W that is
useable (well, listenable), and going active may not make a huge
difference. With 91dB/W, it'll be fine for a second system but not
loud, I think.
HTH
Adam
Hypex ( http://www.hypex.nl/ )
jonheal;158013 Wrote:
Here are some of my annoying traits:
- I interrupt people when they're talking
- I don't listen well
- I often don't give people the benefit of the doubt
- I'm often negative
- I'm selfish
Yup, I'll second that.
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Now what?
Transporter Naim
I had the same set up. For best quality output I used this set up:
Mute SB3 analog outputs (0), set SB3 digital output as constant (i.e.
without any volume control), leave Benchmark such that that the volume
knob is disabled (setting on back I think).
Then use the amp volume to set listening
I have had some experience with the little wall wart that comes with the
SB3. As many of you know I have modified my SB3 to take its I2S (which
is really left justified) data signals into my DAC and feed the DAC's
clock into the SB3. The other day I had it out on the bench trying out
some changes
adamslim;158056 Wrote:
For more detailed advice, why not let us know:
Thanks Adam - what a helpful place this is. :)
adamslim;158056 Wrote:
- What kind of music you like.
I started to type out a list, but it's everything (barring mindless pop
drivel). Electronic, rock, classical... a bit of
JohnSwenson;158072 Wrote:
I have had some experience with the little wall wart that comes with the
SB3. As many of you know I have modified my SB3 to take its I2S (which
is really left justified) data signals into my DAC and feed the DAC's
clock into the SB3. The other day I had it out on
ModelCitizen;158068 Wrote:
Yup, I'll second that.
MC
Are you commenting on your similar traits or just agreeing with me that
I'm a dick?
:-)
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Have a nice day!
http://www.theheals.org/
Completely agree.
cliveb;157992 Wrote:
I seem to recall that some years back it was noted that many
professional (classical) musicians in fact owned pretty low-end stereo
systems, and seemed perfectly happy with them. The hypothesis was that
these people's training meant that they could
Well I'd agree that a bookshelf speaker would make sense in that
size/layout room. I have always liked the small Dynaudios - I think
their Audience 42 is about £400 for the pair (not sure where you are
located - should have asked that!).
I use a pair of Harbeth HL-P3ES speakers in my kitchen
cliveb;157992 Wrote:
I seem to recall that some years back it was noted that many
professional (classical) musicians in fact owned pretty low-end stereo
systems, and seemed perfectly happy with them. The hypothesis was that
these people's training meant that they could mentally fill in the
Thanks Tobi. I appreciate not overlooking the obvious because that is
probably what I did.
When I go to navigate to settings on the squeezebox, i get the
following list of options:
1. Alarm Clock
2. Crossfade
3. Information
4. Repeat
5. Screensaver
6. Shuffle
7. Song Title Format
8. Text Size
Sounds reasonable to me. Still, though, being a guitarist like yourself
(and violinist), I think I'm perhaps more aware of some fine points of
instrument reproduction -- as opposed to audiophile stuff -- AND the
slight business of mic set up, etc., than others. I couldn't say the
same for the
One teensy problem: by sending it off to be modded (for what?) before
you even bothered listening to it you have voided the warranty and
scrapped the 30 home trial. Wouldn't it have made more sense to
receive it at home, check it out, and then decide to 1) keep it as is,
2) mod it, or 3) send it
highdudgeon;158105 Wrote:
Sounds reasonable to me. Still, though, being a guitarist like yourself
(and violinist), I think I'm perhaps more aware of some fine points of
instrument reproduction -- as opposed to audiophile stuff -- AND the
slight business of mic set up, etc., than others. I
cliveb;157992 Wrote:
I seem to recall that some years back it was noted that many
professional (classical) musicians in fact owned pretty low-end stereo
systems, and seemed perfectly happy with them. The hypothesis was that
these people's training meant that they could mentally fill in the
inguz;157944 Wrote:
I'd be very interested to get a copy of your sweep recordings to
analyze. Can you email them (hpyle at cabezal dot com), or up by ftp?
ftp.inguzaudio.com
user: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
pass: inguz
Thanks!
I just emailed the DRC, TXT and WAV files (in flac format) to you
highdudgeon;157923 Wrote:
Why, for crying out load? Do you think there is some advantage in doing
so? There isn't. Pick up the phone and talk to Dan Lavry -- he takes
calls and is very helpful. Just run the coax to coax and call it good.
You're talking about a foot and a half or three
The US122L isn't resampling to 48 kHz is it?
The replacement to the US-122 is the US-144, which is what makes me
wonder.
The Mackie Spike looks interesting to me, but Ill probably get a 122L
if it does do 44.1.
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Skunk;158126 Wrote:
The US122L isn't resampling to 48 kHz is it?
The replacement to the US-122 is the US-144, which is what makes me
wonder.
The Mackie Spike looks interesting to me, but Ill probably get a 122L
if it does do 44.1.
No - I have set the us122L to sample at 44.1KHz.
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tomjtx;157729 Wrote:
It's a flattering review. But it's too bad they didn't have some good
files to use.
The TP sounds different in my system when I spin a CD on my CDTTP.
Interestingly ,it sounds more laid back, a bit less detail and rythymic
punch.
I could never characterize the TP as
Actually, Robert Greene (the reviewer) did this test -- he is an
accomplished violinist -- with himself as the subject playing between a
set of Dali Megalines. The result: uncanny. An observer, including
himself, could barely tell the one from the other.
This just says so much about speakers
stamsyl wrote:
I saw it on Ebay. (item # 180054037839)
It's mislabeled on Ebay. Should be a WM220-1 (see pic). This looks a
lot like one of those listed in the chart here:
http://www.elpac.com/products/commercial/external-dual/documents/wm071-1950.pdf
It doesn't say 'Linear', but does
highdudgeon;158106 Wrote:
One teensy problem: by sending it off to be modded (for what?) before
you even bothered listening to it you have voided the warranty and
scrapped the 30 home trial. Wouldn't it have made more sense to
receive it at home, check it out, and then decide to 1) keep it
adamslim;158100 Wrote:
I have always liked the small Dynaudios - I think their Audience 42 is
about £400 for the pair (not sure where you are located - should have
asked that!).
Yes; it seems they're the cheapest Dynaudios, and that would
realistically be our upper limit. So they'd be
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Pale Blue Ego;158065 Wrote:
I think anybody would be very hard-pressed to build a $200 DIY active
system that could beat the Aego-M.
hmmm - none of the online retailers seem to have the Aego-M in stock.
Did they stop making it? Or, is it just very popular?
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Impeller;158147 Wrote:
Yes; it seems they're the cheapest Dynaudios, and that would
realistically be our upper limit. So they'd be substantially better
than the Monitor Audio Bronze 2s (£200) with, say, a Rotel RA-05?
I'm in Braintree, Essex; if anyone knows good places to listen and buy
If Wayne hasn't begun work on it, you should have him send it to your
house -- untouched. Evaluate it, live with it for a couple of weeks,
compare to other stuff, etc. Then you'll know what direction will work
best for you. Just my $.02.
GaryG;158150 Wrote:
Can't argue with that.
Why?
Regards
Gary
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highdudgeon;158137 Wrote:
Actually, Robert Greene (the reviewer) did this test -- he is an
accomplished violinist -- with himself as the subject playing between a
set of Dali Megalines. The result: uncanny. An observer, including
himself, could barely tell the one from the other.
This
Any colour. Would also be interested in a Bolder modded unit.
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GaryG;158169 Wrote:
Why?
Regards
Gary
I dont mean to answer for HD but IMHO if you 1st live with the stock TP
you would then see what improvements the mod makes, and for me , that
would be part of the fun.
You might also decide the stock TP is so good you dont need to mod it.
The Tp sounds
Impeller;158147 Wrote:
Yes; it seems they're the cheapest Dynaudios, and that would
realistically be our upper limit. So they'd be substantially better
than the Monitor Audio Bronze 2s (£200) with, say, a Rotel RA-05?
I'm in Braintree, Essex; if anyone knows good places to listen and buy
See Tom's post. You don't even know what a stock Transporter will do.
You do know, on paper, some of the things it does: exceptionally low,
world class jitter, first-class DAC, etc. So it is worth at least
TRYING for a week before voiding your return policy and warranty, isn't
it?
As for
That's really cool, Tom!
tomjtx;158168 Wrote:
highdudgeon;158137 Wrote:
Actually, Robert Greene (the reviewer) did this test -- he is an
accomplished violinist -- with himself as the subject playing between a
set of Dali Megalines. The result: uncanny. An observer, including
I'm puzzled, as to the suggestions I'm getting. Let's make the following
assumption:
The standard Transporter matches the 861se.
In which case, one would expect the modified Transporter to be better
than a standard Transporter, ergo, the modified Transport is better
than the Wadia 861se. End
C Crane:
http://www.ccrane.com/radios/radio-accessories/acoustic-energy-aego-m-series-music-system.aspx
Audio Advisor:
http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=AE26%2D06
These are the only US dealers to carry the Aego-M. You can find them
all over the UK for 99 pounds or euros, don't
GaryG;158186 Wrote:
one would expect the modified Transporter to be better than a standard
Transporter
Why on earth would you expect that?
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Unless you have some facts about why this should be so...you're kind of
working off psychological expectations. Again, it just seems silly not
to try the Transporter as it is.
GaryG;158193 Wrote:
Well, I'm only going on my experience with my modified CD player and
amps, which sound better
What facts would you like?
Lower impedence power supply.
Lower noise power supply.
Lower noise decoupling caps.
Point-to-point wiring to avoid the di-electric loss in the PCB.
Better voltage regulation.
Lower noise regulators.
Regards
Gary
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adamslim;158175 Wrote:
Make sure you take some great music along, and have fun! Let us know
what you like there.
Adam
Yes. This is important. Bring your own music: the music that makes you
want to party, the music that makes you cry, the music that makes you
relax, the music that just
More to the point: modders will have you believe that audio is magical,
and that any product can be improved in a few minutes by soldering in
certain aftermarket parts (which for some reason original manufacturers
don't use - go figure).
Slim Devices boringly skips all of the BS and tells you
Now, here's an interesting comparison:
Transporter analogue outputs
SB3 feeding Arcam Black Box 50 (via co-ax SPDIF)
Which one will sound better?
(Currently got the second one set up in my temporary office.)
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Okay, so tell us what you know about the Transporter (which should be
plenty, if you've done your research, because SD has been open about
design and results). Tell us, too, about some measurement differences
with all these goodies and why, specifically, they should result in
anything more
seanadams;158204 Wrote:
And performance that is not matched by ANY product that we've been able
to find.
Well see, I was wrong. That was not just a flippant marketing
statement on the website.
Gary, as others on this thread, I'd advise to try it for a week or so
before you decide to mod it.
Even if one were to mod the Transporter, it seems to me there aren't
that many things to change. Modders tend to first seek out through-hole
caps and 8-DIP op amps, but I don't see any on the Transporter (or very
few I might have missed them). The earlier poster said something about
lower noise
ModelCitizen;158070 Wrote:
Mute SB3 analog outputs (0),MC
I thought setting the analog output to 63 was the equivalent of muting
it...?
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Resistors are metal thin-film (lowest thermal noise), and capaitors are
polyethylene film, ceramic, or electrolytic depending on the capacity
and the application. These are very high quality, high precision
passives which are specced for use in measuring instruments. I do not
have manufacturer's
Disastrous but profitable.
seanadams;158224 Wrote:
Resistors are metal thin-film (lowest thermal noise), and capaitors are
polyethylene film, ceramic, or electrolytic depending on the capacity
and the application. These are very high quality, high precision
passives which are specced for
Some additional insight on my design idea:
The expected 30 W output is due to the fact that bi amping provides
twice as much effective power then the sum of the 5W + 5W of usable
power of the Tripath http://sound.westhost.com/bi-amp.htm
In addition the typical 5 woofer used in similar
is there any place in canada where i can audition the transporter?
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I just want to make it clear (maybe it wasn't in my post) that I'm not
arguing for modding. I think boutique should be left for hairdos and
fingernails, not capacitors and resistors (curling irons?).
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jonheal;158013 Wrote:
Really folks, I think several of you need to just let go. Clearly, no
one's going to get the last word in, and at this point, all you're
doing is pouring salt into wounds and contributing to the build up of
your own stomach acid.
We're all imperfect creatures. We all
I must be the only perfect one here. hehehe
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atkinsonrr;158245 Wrote:
Sean-- I have seen you post similar thoughts on other threads. This
quote seems to indicate you believe all modders are stupid or
disingenuous. I hope you dont mean that, cause I sometimes mod (my
own) equipment. I even believe that in some cases, simple
Gary G. posts that he's having his Transporter modified and the SD's CEO
and one of his dealers, highdudgeon (George Day), attack the guy.
Why shouldn't he mod it?
In the review that started this thread, J.Bray- said of Transporter:
But it isn't,alas, as good as a traditional CD or SACD
highdudgeon;158213 Wrote:
Okay, so tell us what you know about the Transporter (which should be
plenty, if you've done your research, because SD has been open about
design and results). Tell us, too, about some measurement differences
with all these goodies and why, specifically, they
jhm731;158250 Wrote:
PS- IMO, the SD's Transporter marketing statement- And performance
that is not matched by ANY product that we've been able to find. Is
pure hype!
To be clear, I am talking about objectively measurable performance
(SNR, jitter, dynamic range etc), which admittedly is
Here's a quote from modifier/designer Alex Peychev(APLHIFI)'s forum
about your smoking measurements:
Those guys will never learn. At -60db you will need to go and put your
ear on the speaker driver in order to hear something, so who cares about
-130db noise floor of your digital source which,
seanadams;158249 Wrote:
However, when someone claims pefectly empirical improvements like lower
noise power supply with no rationale or data to back them up, I will
object.
Your sentence above, said it all for me. If a modder or anyone else is
claiming (for example) a reduction in jitter
jhm731;158258 Wrote:
Here's a quote from modifier/designer Alex Peychev(APLHIFI)'s forum
about your smoking measurements:
Those guys will never learn. At -60db you will need to go and put your
ear on the speaker driver in order to hear something, so who cares about
-130db noise floor of
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