pain man. Don't give up on CFML. Just diversify a
little so you don't get blindsided.
Rey Bango...
- Original Message -
From: Will Tomlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: CF vs ASP.NET! GET YOUR FRESH POPCON
, but
the numbers do not equate to the hypotheses that it is at ColdFusion's
expense.
--- Ben
-Original Message-
From: Will Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 5:29 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF vs ASP.NET! GET YOUR FRESH POPCON!!
To everyone that posted
Obviously there are more ASP based applications than CF. However that
is not to say that CF hasn't been gaining on ASP.
I really don't know about Dice, I haven't looked at that site since
the late 90s, but It seems to me that there are alot more CF jobs than
there were last year, and the year
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 18:29:02 -0400, Will Tomlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you do nothing else, do this. Go to dice.com, you know the site.
Run a search for coldfusion! Here are the results:
Jobs 1 - 30 of 201 matching your search request.
Run a search for ASP.NET. Here are those
Is anyone else getting it other than me???
Isn't this a line from Zoolanders?
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Message:
Will,
This is probably not a good place for this discussion. It's CF-Talk,
not CF-Bash.
ASP.NET is taking market away from CF! WHY?
Are you sure? Do you have numbers for that? Either way, you're
probably right, but if so, can you show that it's for any
technological reasons other than the
Will Tomlinson wrote:
I'm going to bring this one in from the Blackstone Beta thread yesterday
because I think we all need to talk about this. I'm not going to rehash most
of what's been said in that thread.
Glad you're not planning on going over what was said yesterday. There
was very
On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 08:16:04 -0400, Will Tomlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm not going to rehash most of what's been said in that thread.
Er, sure you are. You even repeated Tim Uzzanti's quote *in* *full*!
It's not a case of right or wrong, just that you're not going to get
everyone to agree
Just a few comments.
-Original Message-
From: Will Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 7:16 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF vs ASP.NET! GET YOUR FRESH POPCON!!
I'm going to bring this one in from the Blackstone Beta thread yesterday
because I think
Both platforms have their own good and bad issues. I have been using CF since
the first versions and since the .NET platform was marketed (and the management
board showed twinkeling eyes, hey another Microsoft cashcow) also started using
C#. I like both, unfortunately management has problems
I am not going to get sucked into a flame war here, but this one line just
begged a response ...
Blackstone is not equivalent to .NET in power and performance.
Did you, by any chance, mean to compare J2EE to .NET, or were you really
displaying such an amazing lack of understanding as to what
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I saw someone asking if someone could prove .NET is faster, .. haven't
you seen any benchmarks? My diff algorithm (using levensthein) is
about 1000x faster in .NET and the CF code has been finetuned into
it's most optimal form. CF ofcourse has it's plusses or else I would
not use it, but
I dont think anyone with enough knowledge says Java is slow :) In fact, .NET
currently is slower than Java which is pretty funny compared to the wrapper
(around win32) .NET actually is, compared to Java which has to do all on his
own. (btw.. benches: http://www.shudo.net/jit/perf/).
Nobody
I'm going to bring this one in from the Blackstone Beta thread yesterday
because I think we all need to talk about this.
Why? I thought this was a technical discussion list? If this were a list
about, say, Porsches, would it be appropriate to talk about how much better
Ferraris are? (Oh, and by
On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 17:00:56 -0400, Micha Schopman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I dont think anyone with enough knowledge says Java is slow :) In fact, .NET
currently is slower than Java which is pretty funny compared to the wrapper
(around win32) .NET actually is, compared to Java which has to
There are other factors that one needs to think about
when writing an
application. Think about the ability to use Threads in
.NET. Depending
on your application, sitting and processing 10 requests
back to back may
take 5 minutes but if you had the ability to run the 10
tasks
concurrently
, December 12, 2004 11:50 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF vs ASP.NET! GET YOUR FRESH POPCON!!
There are other factors that one needs to think about
when writing an
application. Think about the ability to use Threads in
.NET. Depending
on your application, sitting and processing 10
Regarding the relative costs of the expensive ColdFusion and the
free other technologies, I have a statement from a colleague in
another organisation, which I'll be posting separately. I told him
about a site I'd just about finished in ColdFusion and he told me he
was amazed. That I'd done my
I think you're a bit off...
I could be wrong, but it's been my impression that when a thread
finishes processing, it delivers any undelivered content from the
buffer immediately and then grabs up the next incoming http request.
So nobody's actually waiting for someone else's thread to finsih,
-Original Message-
From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 11:33 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF vs ASP.NET! GET YOUR FRESH POPCON!!
I think you're a bit off...
I think that the original poster might be confusing two separate things
here
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 01:02:18 -0500, Jim Davis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm not sure how this will be implemented in BlackStone - Isaac's post was
the first I'd heard of it. But it is doable in Java (of course) and it
wouldn't be all that hard to create a CFC to kick something like this off in
ASP.NET is taking market away from CF!
I doubt you can substantiate that. CF's market share appears to have shrunk
from the old 2.0 and 3.0 days, but there's been a lot more going on than
ASP.NET. In fact, ASP.NET is a minor blip on CF's radar when compared to the
giant swarm of open-source
Being new at this, I am trying to determine why I should learn CF over ASP
(or vice versa).
http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/competitive/
Tom Chiverton
You don't have to be a mad scientist to believe in ColdFusion
I think you would be better off learning JSP(java server pages) and some j2ee.
Why?
Because what CFMX does is translate CFML pages into some servlets
(correct me if I am wrong) so why learning CF(providing you don't
know it already) when you can learn Java(JSP and stuff).
As I see it CF is far
that we see fit Hate to say it but my days on the list
are numbered...
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 9:03 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF vs ASP
I think you would be better off learning JSP(java server pages
Subject: RE: CF vs ASP
I'm hard pressed not to move all of my future development to .Net. AS
much as I love CF and how well I know it, Being a Windows application
developer, I can't not switch to .NET it will allow me to have all of
our programmers on 1 platforma dn deploy our applications
Good point.
-Original Message-
From: Gary W. Sullivan II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 9:18 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF vs ASP
Well, Kim... Keep in mind that you can still be a .NET guru and live in
harmony with CF!!!
I, too, am a Windows App
Objet : RE: CF vs ASP
I think you would be better off learning JSP(java server pages) and some
j2ee.
Why?
Because what CFMX does is translate CFML pages into some servlets
(correct me if I am wrong) so why learning CF(providing you don't
know it already) when you can learn Java(JSP and stuff).
As I
Oh my, the reasons are endless. Here is my $.0002
1. ASP has (last time I checked) awful access to database info. The steps
to do a simple query were nuts. CF database access is much more intuitive.
2. A lot easier to learn, if you don't know VB or some other programming
.
Stace
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 9:03 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF vs ASP
I think you would be better off learning JSP(java server pages) and some
j2ee.
Why?
Because what CFMX does is translate CFML pages
Rizal Firmansyah wrote:
WOW!
Jochem, this is weird.
First i thought the first time cfmail being executed within .cfm script,
it creates an email-msg file containing all data, including attachments if any.
No, just a reference to the attachment.
But apparently it doesn't :(
Do you
Matt Liotta wrote:
The problem here is that cfmail doesn't block while the file is in the
spool. You are either going to need to adapt your code to support some
sort of asynchronous events or use a mail library you can serialize e.g.
javax.mail.
Hence my comment about first figuring out how
-Original Message-
From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Attempting to show that CF is a more rabid development platform than
ASP...
Petco* has low-cost clinics every two weeks. You seem to be frothing at the
mouth.
cf_tongueInCheek
* Large pet supply chain in the U.S.
-
From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 11:28 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF vs. ASP
Matt
I think the problem is that the alternative being discussed is from
MSoft and the natural reaction is to barf if something is being shoved
down your throat -- common
I know the whole CF and why people are using it issue has been hashed out
quite a bit but I would like to add my two cents coming from a different
background than most web developers.
I started my programmer career with C. In C you have absolute control over
everything going on in your program.
- Original Message -
From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
People on this list are amazing. I haven't pointed out anything that is
wrong with CF in this thread. I have simply pointed out that sometimes
other solutions are better, which is far from hating CF.
---
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF vs. ASP
Matt Liotta wrote:
The problem here is that cfmail doesn't block while the file is in
the
spool. You are either going to need to adapt your code to support
some
sort of asynchronous events or use a mail library you can serialize
e.g.
javax.mail
]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 6:54 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF vs. ASP
- Original Message -
From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
People on this list are amazing. I haven't pointed out anything that
is
wrong with CF in this thread. I have simply pointed out that
sometimes
other
Knew this was going to be a big thread...
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From: Jacob [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Knew this was going to be a big thread...
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How about CFvsASP-Talk !! ;-)
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Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
I know the whole CF and why people are using it issue has been hashed out
quite a bit but I would like to add my two cents coming from a different
background than most web developers.
I started my programmer career with C
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Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 6:22 PM
Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
Sure... but the same could be said about ANY programming language.
But this isn't ANY-Talk. This is CF-Talk and we are discussing CF vs.
ASP, which makes it relevant.
I certainly don't believe ColdFusion is the ultimate solution
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From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 11:49 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF vs
lists for it!)
Jimmy
-Original Message-
From: Bruce Sorge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 6:28 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
I know that I am chiming in late here, but here goes.
Learning another language can never hurt. Case in point. I put all of my
Would that be with the CFSHUTTLE tag? Mr. Sulu, instantiate the fuel tank
separation CFC!
-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 7:39 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
sorry, i didnt mean to come across like that, if you read
Shack) you might have your foot in the door with
the I am flexible and constantly expand my horizons argument.
-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 5:36 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
thank you bryan!
let matt be matt, i
On Tuesday, August 27, 2002, at 09:11 , Matthew R. Small wrote:
Intranets are one thing I can think of. I have an intranet here that I
wrote last year using CF - because I am most experienced at CF.
However, I believe that had I written it in ASP, I would have not
encountered the numerous
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-Original Message-
From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 1:21 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF vs. ASP
On Tuesday, August 27, 2002, at 09:11 , Matthew R. Small wrote:
Intranets are one thing I can think
On Tuesday, August 27, 2002, at 11:25 , Matthew R. Small wrote:
Well, just to put your comments in perspective, let me ask a question:
Did you research other technologies to see if there was one better
suited to the need of your intranet?
Yes, we already use BroadVision, Perl CGI, ASP... we
Use the right tool for the job. And if you have to ask if you should keep
all your eggs in one basket then I have a bridge I'd like to sell you.
On Mon, 26 Aug 2002, Perez, Jimmy wrote:
Hello all,
I am a CF certified developer (missed advanced by three points) but am thinking of
expanding
as much as we all love CF, it is NEVER a good idea to put all your eggs in
one basket.
let me repeat that for emphasis.
IT IS NEVER A GOOD IDEA TO KEEP ALL YOUR EGGS IN ONE BASKET.
in my own experience, companies are more likely to be in favor of someone
with one or two specialties, but with a
Sooner or later you, as a web developer, will run into a situation where CF
is not an option (client choice, server restrictions, etc.). When this
happens, if you haven't learned ASP/VBScript, or some other suitable
technology, then you probably won't be able to work on the project.
With ASP
My .02 is:
If you 'put all your eggs in one basket' you lock yourself out of another
potentially rewarding market: the website/application UPGRADE.
People may have existing sites in .asp, .php, etc that are perfectly usable
and functional... and they want to add functionality. If you only know
As long as the price is right... :)
Thanks
-Original Message-
From: Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 2:56 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF vs. ASP
Use the right tool for the job. And if you have to ask if you should keep
all your eggs in one basket then I
Keeping in mind the movements toward J2EE in the recent CF release, I would
recommend looking into
the Java/JSP world. It will help you with your future CF work, but also open
a world of possibilities
outside CF as well. Also you can run Java/JSP for free. I recently did it on
a huge production
I have found myself doing projects in VB, VBScript, ASP, Cold Fusion, PHP,
Perl etc... It doesn't hurt to know. It came in handy for me. Some I learned
while using them :)
Shawn Regan
pacifictechnologysolutions
15530-B Rockfield Blvd. Suite 4
Irvine, CA 92618
949.830.1623
w w w . p t s 1 . c o
Being that I'm finally going to learn some ASP and PHP, I have a quick
question regarding ASP and ASP.NET. I have taken a quick look at ASP 2 or 3
(can't remember which) which was long enough to know that it was never going
to be a favourite like CF. My question is what is the difference
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Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 4:15 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
My .02 is:
If you 'put all your eggs in one basket' you lock yourself out of another
potentially rewarding market: the website/application UPGRADE.
People may have existing sites in .asp, .php, etc
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-Original Message-
From: Perez, Jimmy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 4:11 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
As long as the price is right... :)
Thanks
getting a job or a competitor.
Robert Everland III
Web Developer Extraordinaire
Dixon Ticonderoga Company
http://www.dixonusa.com
-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 4:35 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
CASE IN POINT
Hello all,
I am a CF certified developer (missed advanced by three points) but am
thinking of expanding my horizons/marketability. I have started getting
up to speed in ASP/VBScript but the question keeps coming up: should I
even spend any time doing this or should I just concentrate on
-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 1:35 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
CASE IN POINT
TOO MANY LINES/CHARACTERS OF BS VBSHIT CODE
Dim MyMail
Dim MsgText
Set MsgText = Request.Form(FirstName
Learn ASP as much as you can. This way, it is easier to re-write
everything in CF.
At 02:43 PM 8/26/2002 -0500, you wrote:
Hello all,
I am a CF certified developer (missed advanced by three points) but am
thinking of expanding my horizons/marketability. I have started getting
up to speed
Yeah but unless you're hosting it for them, they will have
to pay an additional amount of money to buy CF Server to
run that easier code. While certain things like that are
much easier to code in CF, if you're trying to get a
customer and it's a big site, $500 could be the difference
-
Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group
Founder Director
www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
- Original Message -
From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 1:47 PM
Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
Oh
No reason to buy an older ASP book if that's what you mean. The
languages are basically the same, except for VBScript finally being
typed, and getting decent error handling.
ASP has always been more about integrating COM objects than anything.
A tag in cf = com object in asp...
The CLR is
:47
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
Oh please! You're comparing apples to oranges. Just because all of the
cfmail code is hidden from you; it doesn't mean it isn't there.
Matt Liotta
President CEO
Montara Software, Inc.
http://www.montarasoftware.com/
V: 415-577-8070
F: 415-341-8906
P: [EMAIL
of goods, not to mention the time you'll save
them too.
--- Ben
-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 5:15 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
Yeah but unless you're hosting it for them, they will have
to pay an additional
Oh please! You're comparing apples to oranges. Just because
all of the cfmail code is hidden from you; it doesn't mean
it isn't there.
While I don't buy Tony's comparison in full (there are certainly cleaner
ways to write the ASP code), I think you're missing the point. Sure, all the
same
in a lot of situations.
Benjamin S. Rogers
http://www.c4.net/
v.508.240.0051
f.508.240.0057
-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 4:35 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
CASE IN POINT
TOO MANY LINES/CHARACTERS OF BS VBSHIT
-
Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group
Founder Director
www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
- Original Message -
From: Jon Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: CF vs. ASP
No reason to buy
://www.montarasoftware.com/
V: 415-577-8070
F: 415-341-8906
P: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-
From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 2:10 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF vs. ASP
Matt I think Tony is bang on. Yes the additinal code may be hidden
from
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 5:10 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF vs. ASP
Matt I think Tony is bang on. Yes the additinal code may be hidden from
us,
but because of that fact we can develop faster and reduce development
costs
for clients.
That said I still think it's
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 2:30 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
And wait until you get a project that utilises a lot of COM objects...
ASP and ASP.NET handles COM a lot easier that CF 5 and especially MX.
You need to use the tool that fits the job
:40 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
And the first time they want to do full text searching, or basic
graphing, or simple things like handling file uploads or using POP (or
LDAP or server side HTTP) you'll need to be add-on modules and
components that will cost you more than the $500
Message -
From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 3:13 PM
Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
I'll sell you an object you can call from ASP in one line just like
cfmail for $200. Attempting to show that CF is a more rabid development
platform than ASP
: CF vs. ASP
Oh please! You're comparing apples to oranges. Just because
all of the cfmail code is hidden from you; it doesn't mean
it isn't there.
While I don't buy Tony's comparison in full (there are certainly
cleaner
ways to write the ASP code), I think you're missing the point. Sure
anyhow, the truth of the matter is thisif i can
develop rich cf applications for companies
in half the time, that it might take an asp coder
to do it, with half the code, i will, and until something
better comes along, thats what im doing...
I am not disagreeing that CF is faster to
I know that I am chiming in late here, but here goes.
Learning another language can never hurt. Case in point. I put all of my
eggs in one basket and stuck to just CF. Although I have a good job that
pays very well, I am finding that I am starting to regret limiting
myself to just CF. Currently
]]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 7:20 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
anyhow, the truth of the matter is thisif i can
develop rich cf applications for companies
in half the time, that it might take an asp coder
to do it, with half the code, i will, and until something
better comes along
Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 4:47 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
speak for yourself matt, since you dont
have confidence in your work being the biggest
baddest web apps in the world, it doesnt
surprise me that you dont find cf
M. Fitch
Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer
http://isitedesign.com
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-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 4:47 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
speak
cake! with, can you guess ladies and gentsCF
peace.
tw
-Original Message-
From: Fitch, Tyler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 8:03 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
Tony,
A little fired up? Biggest baddest apps in the world. Cnn.com,
yahoo.com
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Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 4:47 PM
Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
speak for yourself matt, since you dont
have confidence in your work being the biggest
baddest web apps in the world, it doesnt
surprise me that you dont find cf as the same.
its a shame, a darn shame, you
Matt Liotta wrote:
I am not disagreeing that CF is faster to develop in. I am simply
pointing out that it is not because one particular feature takes less
lines to code in CF than another language. I suspect that just as much
time is spent in another language learning an email library's API
What's more important here is where will you, the CF developer, be if
macromedia goes out of business. I remember speaking to a business basic
guru that took business basic to the limits; even writing bad ass web
apps.
__
Your
but, to put it blatantly honest, its all about perspective...
in my mind, if im not building the biggest baddest web apps
in the world, then im building nothing...and who is the judge
of that? me. and really, only me. thanks.
So if I hire you to create hello world in CF, will it be the
-Original Message-
From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 8:28 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
but, to put it blatantly honest, its all about perspective...
in my mind, if im not building the biggest baddest web apps
in the world, then im building
Dieten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: CF vs. ASP
Matt Liotta wrote:
I am not disagreeing that CF is faster to develop in. I am simply
pointing out that it is not because one particular feature takes less
lines to code
]
[connecting people, places and things]
-Original Message-
From: Pablo Varando [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 8:14 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF vs. ASP
You know to this day it still amazes me things people say! Kinda like the
old Mac is better than Microsoft, or even
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Perhaps this is a really loaded question... but what is it that you want it
to do?
I want to spool email with attachments and be able to delete the
attachments right away.
Since the mail in the spoolfolder simply stores a reference to the file
and only attaches the
: Jochem van Dieten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: CF vs. ASP
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Perhaps this is a really loaded question... but what is it that you want
it
to do?
I want to spool email with attachments and be able
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From: Jochem van Dieten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: CF vs. ASP
Matt Liotta wrote:
I am not disagreeing that CF is faster to develop in. I am simply
pointing out that it is not because one particular feature
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How often are you sending your mail? In most cases with email, you want to
send it right away... in which case, the attachment would be deleted after
the mail was sent.
Right, after it is sent. Not after it is spooled.
What type of setup/application are you
about that for a bit
Pablo Varando
http://www.cfpablo.com
http://www.easycfm.com
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From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 5:56 PM
Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
Well that is just what I was getting at. It is nice
://www.cfpablo.com
http://www.easycfm.com
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From: Jochem van Dieten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 6:02 PM
Subject: Re: CF vs. ASP
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How often are you sending your mail? In most cases with email, you
to the garage, and get the hammer. :-)
-Novak
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From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 5:56 PM
Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
Well that is just what I was getting at. It is nice that CF has all this
wrapped up
26, 2002 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: CF vs. ASP
The emai spooling in most cases happens so fast, it's not really even
understandable why you'd want to delete the attachemtn first anyways.
In most cases you don't even realize the spooled email is there. How big
are
the files you are spooling? Maybe
Not necessarily. Truth is that by having it all built in on one place,
you
are simplying your life, not to mention that when you do run into
trouble
it's easier to get help and solutions.
Again, it is only easier when the built-in solution works. I am not sure
why you are having such a hard
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