Re: [CTRL] Alien Presence? Evidence. . .

2000-05-22 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "A.C. Szul Jr." [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yet Skinner finally saw the light on the season finale.will Mulder ever come back or was he abducted forever? Depends on how much Duchovny is demanding to renew his expired contract, and if Fox is willing to pay... ;-) June A

Re: [CTRL] [Fwd: [The Grip] Fwd: Homosexuals commit 55% of child molestations.]

2000-05-22 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
In a message dated 5/21/00 11:16:43 PM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In fact, male homosexuals, as low as their numbers are, perpetrate up to half of all child molestations. Gay teachers alone commit up to 80 per cent of all sexual assaults on pupils. This is bullshit. Pedophilia has no more

Re: [CTRL] Important Notice on emails this week!

2000-05-22 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "Nurev Ind Research" [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am on vacation this week so there will be very little emails going out. Will you all please do me a favor? Pray that weather gets nicer? Thanks Bill == You bet! I'll talk to the Big Guy upstairs. He always listens to me. I'm

Re: [CTRL] [Fwd: [The Grip] Fwd: Homosexuals commit 55% of child molestations.]

2000-05-22 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "William Shannon" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Seems to me that Bard is overly interested in homosexuals...wonder why?? Yes, to paraphrase the other bard, Will Shakespeare (who may have been at least bisexual, if not outright gay, himself), methinks he, Bard, does protest too much... ;-) June A

Re: [CTRL] Burnt forest reveals lost Mayan city

2000-05-21 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
"Nothing like this has been seen in Mayan culture," said Luis de Leon, a spokesman for Basic Resources, a multinational oil company that has underwritten the search for the city in the remote forests of Peten province, about 300 miles north of the capital, Guatemala City. Anyone else find

Re: [CTRL] The hunt for flight 111's sunken treasure - shocks crash relatives

2000-05-21 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
Adam Smyth, the British legal director of International Aviation Safety Association, a campaign body formed by relatives of Swissair victims, described the action as utterly deplorable. [snip] Ian Shaw, whose daughter, Stephanie, died in the crash, said: "It is appalling. It is another

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: FW: Marketing bloopers

2000-05-19 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
7. A Miami T-shirt maker printed shirts for the Spanish market which promoted the Pope's visit. Instead of printing "El Papa" (the Pope) they printed "La Papa" (the potato). I fail to see the error June ;-) 8. Pepsi's "Come Alive With the Pepsi Generation" translated into "Pepsi

Re: [CTRL] [NA] Elian Q A Theirs and Ours

2000-05-19 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
Q Has Elian been drugged? A There is every reason to believe that Elian has been heavily sedated a lot of the time. Why else would Thug Craig prevent any video footage or visitors? Why would not Elian be allowed to talk to reporters if he really wanted to go back to Cuba? Okay, tell us why

Re: [CTRL] Creating Hysteria: Women and Multiple Personality Disorder

2000-05-18 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "Samantha L." [EMAIL PROTECTED] I propose another hypothesis. The first leak in the dike of silence came in '81 with the publication of "Michelle Remembers." The odd repressions people lived with finally had an avenue in the collective unconscious - to put a name to the nameless

Re: [CTRL] Email Freezing on CTRL Emails ONLY

2000-05-17 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "Jim Condit Jr" [EMAIL PROTECTED] What in the world is going on? Last night I ran into another CTRL email that froze my email. I had to go into mailstart and get rid of it after I identified it. I didn't note the name, but now, tonight a CTRL email froze me up under the name "William

Re: [CTRL] Ronald Reagan - Actor, Airhead, or What?

2000-05-15 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "Robert F. Tatman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Uh, not exactly. Maybe I can't *prove* it...but can you *disprove* it? Rulers have used lookalike stand-ins for millennia. Without wanting to appear superstitious, there *is* that odd pattern that the U.S. president elected every 20 years dies in

Re: [CTRL] What is going on at the Plum Island Bio Labs? [RMNEWS]

2000-05-14 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
There is a Microbiology Lab at Plum Island off the northern tip of Long Island. It is said to be doing research on animal diseases that could be accidentally imported to the US. Mostly about horses in recent times. They are concentrating on equine encephalitis, an inflammation of the brain

Re: [CTRL] J. Edgar Hoover Shocker?

2000-05-13 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
Subject: J. Edgar Hoover Shocker? J. EDGAR HOOVER WAS BLACK SAYS COUSIN Not so much a shocker for those of us old enough to remember such rumors making the rounds back in the 1960s... That Hoover liked to wear women's clothes was more of a shocker (and not all that much) than his supposedly

Re: [CTRL] JACKBOOT JANET STOMPS NBC NEWS CREW WHILE MAJOR MEDIA SNOOZE

2000-05-13 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
"We got Maced, we got kicked, we got roughed up", Cuban-born NBC camera man Tony Zumbado told MSNBC. He said that as the incursion began, federal agents kicked him in the stomach and yelled, "Don't move or we'll shoot." Zumbado added on NBC's" Dateline: "My sound man got hit with a shotgun

Re: [CTRL] Elian doctors practicing without license?

2000-05-13 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "MICHAEL SPITZER" [EMAIL PROTECTED] [As I posted previously, I felt Elian had been drugged. --MS] Do you also postulate that all the other meds found on the doctor, used for urinary, respiratory, and skin infections, were also to used on Elian? Jane Orient, M.D., executive director of

Re: [CTRL] Donato

2000-05-13 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
May 12, 2000 | Donato Dalrymple made fresh rounds on the cable news talkies Wednesday, with comments on Cuban refugee Elián González's Miami asylum hearing. "I'm looking out for the best interests of little Eliáncito," the man who rescued the child off the coast of Florida told Fox News.

Re: [CTRL] WAKE UP! Greg Craig: Elian Drug Charges 'Ridiculous'; Pediatricians Disagree

2000-05-12 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "Jim Condit Jr" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh, June, wake the heck up. It's just VRRRYY interesting to me how many of the alleged "conspiracy snoops" on this list have such a great love of totalitarian regimes like Castro's, I have no love of any totalitarian regime, whether it's

Re: [CTRL] Greg Craig: Elian Drug Charges 'Ridiculous'; Pediatricians Disagree

2000-05-11 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
Everyone who's jumping on the "this is proof they're drugging Elian" wagon ignores the fact that the psychoactives weren't the only meds confiscated. Also reported being found in the medical bag were antibiotics used for urinary infections, skin infections, and other maladies. I don't hear

Re: [CTRL] Smith: Elian Gonzalez in 'concentration camp'

2000-05-10 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
Smith afterward said he based this comment on information he received from Elian's Miami relatives. Oh yeah, THAT is a truly unimpeachable source! "They've already found tranquilizer drugs with the doctors. Also a whole bunch of meds for a slew of conditions, none of which anyone has

Re: [CTRL] [Fwd: VOTE ALERT: Gay [homo] adoption banned in Mississippi]

2000-05-09 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "Steve Wilson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Children and homosexuals do not belong together. Your statement implies that homosexuals are also pedophiles. That is bullshit. Homosexuality no more implies pedophilia than heterosexuality does. As for 'recruiting', again homosexuals no more 'recruit'

Re: [CTRL] Boom times (was):sending ur kid

2000-05-08 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "nessie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think these are not boom times, at least not for workers. I think that the media lies. Considering that all the major media outlets are now owned by major non-media corporate conglomerates, it is not surprising that the media does not report anything from the

Re: [CTRL] Love-Bug Suspect A Skirt!

2000-05-08 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
I suspect that whomever is eventually arrested, whether a man or a woman, is a patsy designated to take the fall... June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are

Re: [CTRL] OT: Some sad pictures of Elian

2000-05-08 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
I don't know if the kid looks 'drugged' as some of the comments allege... He doesn't look too different than any other kid that has been forced to attend an adult function that is totally boring for the child, who'd rather be whom playing video games or outside playing ball... Irregardless,

Re: [CTRL] Love-Bug Suspect A Skirt!

2000-05-08 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "MICHAEL SPITZER" [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you had have written "DESIGNED to take the fall," I wouldn't have agreed (not that it might NOT have been a conspiricy from the "git-go," just that I would need more in order to assume such). However, I have a feeling that you are right, i.e., that

Re: [CTRL] Save the St Bernard Dogs.

2000-05-07 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "nessie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] St Bernards are being exported to Asia for use as food - they are being tortured and skinned alive - this is fact not fiction. By who? Where? When? Be specific. What are the companies' names and addresses? What ships do they ship on? When does the next one

Re: [CTRL] Poll: Do you feel safe/secure in your home after Elian raid? (fwd)

2000-05-07 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "nessie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] It would be interesting to compare how safe we feel in our homes and how safe we actually are, statistically. If you believe TV, it's dangerous outside, you'd better stay home and not talk to anybody because psychos, rapists and cop killers are everywhere,

Re: [CTRL] Poll: Do you feel safe/secure in your home after Elian raid? (fwd)

2000-05-06 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "MICHAEL SPITZER" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do you feel safe, secure in your home after Elian raid? Meaningless poll. How many felt secure BEFORE the Elian raid? June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange

Re: [CTRL] Who Is Janet Reno? (fwd)

2000-05-04 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
The late C.S. Lewis, novelist, Christian apologist and writer of charming books for children, saw what was coming in 1946. This statement betrays the writer's prejudices. By describing Lewis as a "Christian apologist", the writer shows that he doesn't think very highly of the

[CTRL] Fw: OBRL - Fresh evidence found of cancer risk near pylons

2000-05-04 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
- Original Message - From: OBRL-News [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:- Fresh evidence found of cancer risk near pylons Orgone Biophysical Research Lab [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.orgonelab.org Forwarded News Item Please copy and distribute to other interested

Re: [CTRL] Ancient Chemtrails

2000-05-03 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
Two types of plague are believed to have caused the Black Death. The first is the "bubonic" type, which was the most common. The bubonic form of plague is characterized by swellings of the lymph nodes: the swellings are called "buboes," The buboes are accompanied by vomiting, fever and

Re: [CTRL] EYEWITNESS REPORT - THE ART BELL CASE AGAINST TED GUNDERSON, et al...

2000-05-02 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "Samantha L." [EMAIL PROTECTED] The most personally shocking statement made during the hearing was from Gunderson's attorney. As previously reported, he stated that -- even though Hollow had already admitted that his legal team had investigated and found Hickson's allegations about Bell to

Re: [CTRL] Kendall Coffey, Elian's Miami Family's Lawyer...

2000-05-01 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "name AOL USER" [EMAIL PROTECTED] What happened starting when she was 17 to cause so much stress in her life that she required hospitalization? It might be interesting for someone to interview her classmates, especially highschool classmates, to find out what sort of girl she was back

Re: [CTRL] Cuban Americans = German Jews (Fwd)

2000-05-01 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
Cockburn is joking, of course. Yes, I'm sure he doesn't mean the Anglos and blacks in the area to die from the resultant radioactive fallout... I am sure he does not really wish to incinerate tens of thousands of Hispanic men, women and children. But, as a Hispanic American myself, I

Re: [CTRL] ANIMAL RIGHTS PAGANS ENDORSE CARA

2000-05-01 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: LandRights Network [EMAIL PROTECTED] LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE COULDN'T MAKE THIS ONE UP IF WE TRIED ! ! ! Wolfspirit's Wiccan Torch Magazine, the leading voice of Pagans, Witches, and the Occult, Just as the Christian religion hasn't one, cohesive sect, neither do pagans or

Re: [CTRL] Dubya's Kuwaiti Oil Buddies Trying to Start Recession

2000-05-01 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "Foxter" [EMAIL PROTECTED] I hear that Dubya owned interest(s) in oil fields in Kuwait. Heard this in l98l perhaps it's no longer true. The Bush family owns Zapata Oil...actually, I believe the Zapata conglomerate is into many different fields, but the 2 biggies are oil and shipping.

Re: [CTRL] Mike and attacks on long standing members

2000-05-01 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "Kirimaku" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Actually this no longer needs to be true. If the list was switched to Egroups where I have managed five lists for several years. I second Kirimaku's suggestion regarding eGroups...I run a couple of lists there myself, and find it quite easy to do, especially

Re: [CTRL] Cuban Doctor Caught Taking Tranquilizers to Elian

2000-05-01 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
"The confiscated medicines were listed as amikacin sulfate, used for treatment of bacterial and staph infections; Does Elian Gonzalez have a bacterial or staph infection? aminophyllin, a bronchodilator for treatment of asthma, bronchitis and emphysema; Does Elian suffer from any of these

Re: [CTRL] ANIMAL RIGHTS PAGANS ENDORSE CARA

2000-05-01 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "Robert F. Tatman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] The scariest thing for me about reading *Mein Kampf* was that about halfway through the book I found myself nodding and muttering, "Mm-hmm, good point." When I realized what I was doing, I slammed the book shut in one hell of a hurry, crying "Get

Re: [CTRL] It's a Free Country?

2000-04-30 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
The reason I can't get all excited over this is because this is NOT a case of GOVERNMENT out of control. Whether one agrees or disagrees with the policy, it is one which has been adapted by a PRIVATE ENTITY, an association representing that particular subdivision. The Henrys knew about the

Re: [CTRL] Alien Elian

2000-04-30 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "name AOL USER" [EMAIL PROTECTED] The floor diagrams of the house seem to indicate that there was only one bed in each of the bedrooms. Those floor diagrams were in either Time or Newsweek (I threw them both out) but I found it strange when I first saw it, that a six year old was

Re: [CTRL] Kendall Coffey, Elian's Miami Family's Lawyer...

2000-04-30 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
In Lazaro's and Delfin's defense, we should note that neither of these paragons of virtue has ever bitten a blonde stripper. That we know of... ;-) Opinion polls continue to indicate a majority of Americans would rather see Elian returned to his father than raised by a couple of Miami

Re: [CTRL] Bill / Re: Tara

2000-04-30 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "Nurev Ind Research" [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think that Tara has a good point here. All list members should refrain from posting anything that might upset Tara, or bring into question her personal views. She's in my killfile. The only way I get to read anything she posts is via others

Re: [CTRL] Alien Elian

2000-04-30 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "name AOL USER" [EMAIL PROTECTED] I dunno if that's really all that small. The multi-millionaire who "married" the Congers lady on TV was said to have a 1200 sq ft home (with a busted toilet or bathtub sitting in the backyard). If we put two and two together, it would appear that

Re: [CTRL] Reply: Re: [CTRL] Castro's Family Values

2000-04-29 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "Prudence L. Kuhn" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh, really Nesse. Are You the Official Appoligist for the El Producto Generalismo for Life InFidel Castro? Well, Sob Sister, I grew up in the 1960's and remember those air raid drills in grammer school. You know the one's where the kids had to

Re: [CTRL] Reply: Re: [CTRL] Castro's Family Values

2000-04-29 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "nessie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Imagine you are facing a guy with a pistol aimed at your head. You have a pistol pointed at his head. Stalemate. Then he wipes the safety on his pistol. What do you do? I'd wipe my safety. If you wouldn't, you're a fool. It was an official policy known,

Re: [CTRL] Fw: Elian's Rescuer Enjoys the Spotlight

2000-04-29 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "Alamaine" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yeah, I was thinking about this after reading about the alleged abuse the little feller got from Pops Gonzalez ... and, of course, this was one out of how many instances where the Caribbeans set out for 'freedom' (another word for nothing left to lose?) How

Re: [CTRL] Why Did They Do It?

2000-04-29 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "William Shannon" [EMAIL PROTECTED] a miracle that a fisherman saw him bobbing in the shark-infested waters and scooped him aboard on the morning of Nov. 25, 1999, the day celebrated in America, the country his mother died bringing him to, as Thanksgiving. Fisherman, housekeeper...no

Re: [CTRL] Fw: Elian's Rescuer Enjoys the Spotlight

2000-04-28 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "nessie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nobody has been charged in any of this. Why? Why do Cuban-Americans have special rights? I think you know the answer to that. It's the same reason the Republicans are pushing for Congressional hearings into this, even though every single major poll shows the

Re: [CTRL] WT: Who controls Elian? (fwd)

2000-04-28 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
On Thursday, the appeals court rejected a request from Elian's Miami relatives for visitation rights with the boy or to have the court appoint a neutral, temporary guardian. Yes, now the Miami gang

Re: [CTRL] ART BELL AND WIFE BUY PAHRUMP RADIO SIGNAL (fwd)

2000-04-28 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
Interesting that no mention was made in the article regarding Bell's recent retirement announcement...if I'm not mistaken, this is his last week broadcasting his nightly show? He gave as an excuse for quitting this time a need to have free time to fight supposedly false accusations of being a

Re: [CTRL] Doc To Marisleysis-SEEK HELP!

2000-04-27 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "Prudence L. Kuhn" [EMAIL PROTECTED] But let's take a look at the product of Cuba, and I'm not talking about sugar or cigars. Castro or not, they seem to be raising some pretty good kids. Elian is from a broken home, but the kid has withstood some pretty nasty situations, and he is

[CTRL] Fw: Elian's Rescuer Enjoys the Spotlight

2000-04-27 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
I will comment on this article in another post June = Elian's rescuer enjoys the spotlight A fateful fishing trip upends Dalrymple's life By Michael Leahy WASHINGTON POST WASHINGTON, April 27 - Three nights after

Re: [CTRL] Doc To Marisleysis-SEEK HELP!

2000-04-27 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "Alamaine" [EMAIL PROTECTED] First observation: is the characterisation of 'child abuser' as put on Papa Gonzalez another translation for 'disciplinarian'; 'abused' because Kid Gonzalez didn't get the Commando Rangers in their frilly dresses for his birthday? I think because it's been

Re: [CTRL] Alien Elian

2000-04-26 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "Prudence L. Kuhn" [EMAIL PROTECTED] A final discrepancy...why is the INS agent in the infamous photo wearing green fatigues, while the videos we see of the INS agents entering and leaving the house during the raid only show agents all in black? Why is this agent wearing a

Re: [CTRL] Child-Abuse, Clinton Style

2000-04-25 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "E. J. Smith" [EMAIL PROTECTED] As for the girl being hospitalized, can any of you honestly say that at the age of 21 you could have handled the stress she has been under any differently or better? She was also hospitalized for stress last summer, well before Elian came into her

Re: [CTRL] Alien Elian

2000-04-25 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "Alamaine" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hey! Was there any wordage as to *why* the little feller and the bigger feller were in the closet to begin with? I had been led to believe that the raid itself was somewhat of a surprise although predicted. This one detail leaves me in appuzzlement ...

Re: [CTRL] invading our dreams

2000-04-25 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "Steve Wilson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] No actually a hate group of homos and minorities figure they can project obscene images into the minds of white hetrosexual men. Seems that Asians and White people are the target of some fag group that has this and other technologies to harass people in

Re: [CTRL] Alien Elian

2000-04-25 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "Alamaine" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yeah, I heard it all from Donato on *Hannity Colmes* (Fox) last night -- RIGHT after I posted the initial query. I think they expected (as I did, in all reality) that the protestors would serve as their 'human shield' and give them plenty of time to make a

Re: [CTRL] Child-Abuse, Clinton Style

2000-04-24 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "William Shannon" [EMAIL PROTECTED] If she is so emotionally and mentally fragile, she's hardly fit to assume the role of Elian's mother... And if you caught her performance in DC yesterday you'd see that she is verging on insanity...rambling...and her level of education too is a

Re: [CTRL] Child-Abuse, Clinton Style

2000-04-24 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "Jim Condit Jr" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To "Bill Shannon": Oh! Tough toe nails! You had to listen to truth for 30 minutes from Marisleysius! The truth according to the Brothers Grimm... She was plenty educated for a first generation Cuban American and, since your knocking Cuban Americans

Re: [CTRL] Child-Abuse, Clinton Style

2000-04-24 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "Jim Condit Jr" [EMAIL PROTECTED] This has got to be the strangest Conspiracy Research List in the World, most of its longest standing members seem to always trust the government no matter how outrageous their actions, i.e. Party on, dudes. Jim Condit Jr. Hardly. Those of us who have

Re: [CTRL] Child-Abuse, Clinton Style

2000-04-24 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "Kris Millegan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] This drama is a public spectacle that has been mostly orchestrated by forces that hold much sway in the Cuban community, that being corruption, the CIA, mobsters and narcotic traffickers, including such folks as the Bush Crime family. And these same

Re: [CTRL] Child-Abuse, Clinton Style

2000-04-24 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "Jim Condit Jr" [EMAIL PROTECTED] I hope you're not believing the #$% polls the Big Networks are putting out about 2 out of 3 people in America supporting the Clinton/Reno/Castro commando raid against the Miami family. What #$$% -- and how come so FEW of the long time conspiracy sleuths

Re: [CTRL] Elian Seized From Relatives' Home

2000-04-23 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "William Shannon" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Now we see the true colors of the supposedly "peaceful and law-abiding" Miami Cubans...riots in the streets...what a mess! And still a preponderance of Cuban flags being waved in the crowd, rarely an American flag (a situation which existed well before

Re: [CTRL] Elian Picture

2000-04-23 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "William Shannon" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Doesn't look to traumatized to me...hmmm... I agree...but a question HAS been raised as to whether the picture has been doctored or not. Compare the photos of Elian taken during the raid, and this picture -- his bangs in the earlier pictures are

Re: [CTRL] Elian Seized From Relatives' Home

2000-04-23 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "K" [EMAIL PROTECTED] And it's about time! Cudos to the government for finally taking action and for not allowing the Miami relatives to dictate terms... The "raid" was well-executed and very compelling... And apparently done without any kind of warrant - thus totally illegal.

Re: [CTRL] Insurrection: Mexican Invasion

2000-04-23 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "The Extremist" [EMAIL PROTECTED] While a lone Cuban boy is illegally kidnapped by the federal fascist jackboots, Let's see...the unemployed drunkard, Lazalo Gonzales, was given TEMPORARY custody of Elian Gonzalez; such custody was revoked, yet he refused to relinquish the boy to the

Re: [CTRL] The Abduction of Elian and the Decay of Liberty (fwd)

2000-04-23 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "MICHAEL SPITZER" [EMAIL PROTECTED] On the surface, the abduction of Elian appears like an unpopular move, but there are strong motives behind it. Unpopular with whom? By and large, public opinion polls show that the majority of real Americans (as opposed to the pseudo-American Miami

Re: [CTRL] Child-Abuse, Clinton Style

2000-04-23 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "Alamaine" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, and I've also seen the newsreels of 'poor' little Elian at home with his caring and sharing relatives, at play, guns (more than one type toy)(if not an arrow) in hand, having a great time. Very often shown outside playing after midnight, too...hardly

Re: [CTRL] Child-Abuse, Clinton Style

2000-04-23 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "William Shannon" [EMAIL PROTECTED] What exactly did the Miami family do to demonstrate that they were fit caretakers besides buying (with their seemingly endless supply of cash) Elian everything he wanted? And Marisleysis constantly getting admitted to a psych ward of the local

Re: [CTRL] Miami Protesters Rage at Clinton over Elian Reunion (fwd)

2000-04-22 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
The Fort Lauderdale Sun-Sentinel reported Friday that a group of ex-soldiers was quietly guarding the Gonzalez home to prevent U.S. agents from taking Elian. The group, calling itself Cuban People's Dignity Movement and Sounds like a fedspook troll group if I ever heard one... equipped

Re: [CTRL] New Look at Ancient Betrayer (fwd)

2000-04-22 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "silas" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jesus had surrounded himself with loyal and trusted disciples. Including Judas. Church tradition to the contrary, there is nothing in the Gospels to show that Jesus did not care deeply for Judas...in fact, since he seems to have been the 'treasurer' of the

Re: [CTRL] New Look at Ancient Betrayer (fwd)

2000-04-22 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "Nicola Molloy" [EMAIL PROTECTED] HA HA HA Perry Mason tries to analyze the actions of the King of the Universe. 0/10 Stick with your evolution you haven't the depth for religion sorry. Well you did ask... Nicky ps you weren't there were you? And neither were you... ;-) June A

Re: [CTRL] COMMUNIST GOVERNMENT THUGS (fwd)

2000-04-22 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "silas" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Am I missing something here? I thought that the boy was being reunited with his Father. Ah, but don't you realize that the father is a godless communist thug, too? And that 'family values' only apply if the family is rightwing conservative, capitalist, and

Re: [CTRL] New Look at Ancient Betrayer (fwd)

2000-04-21 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
The distinction may seem to be splitting theological hairs, but Biblical scholars insist it is weighty. One translation makes Judas a traitor. The other could make him an agent of divine will. Along the lines of one of two questions I would ask my Sunday school teachers that would

Re: [CTRL] ELIAN'S CASE - RENO SLAPPED DOWN

2000-04-20 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
RENO SLAPPED DOWN 11TH CIRCUIT RULES SHE VIOLATED "RULE OF LAW" IN ELIAN'S CASE I've read the text of the ruling, and nowhere does it mention Janet Reno or the Justice Department. It only mentions the INS...is Reno also in charge of the INS? June A

Re: [CTRL] The MYTH of EVOLUTION - SCIENTISTS SPEAK!

2000-04-20 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "tenebroust" [EMAIL PROTECTED] I believe there is sufficient evidence for Micro-evolution by the fossil record. I even believe that some forms of Macro-evolution may occur under proper circumstances, but that there is little if any evidence from the fossil record for same. Regardless of

Re: [CTRL] The MYTH of EVOLUTION - SCIENTISTS SPEAK!

2000-04-20 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "nessie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Besides, evolution is a fact. The empirical evidence is overwhelming. Get used to it. Then why is it still referred to in textbooks and scientific literature as the THEORY of evolution? Maybe because the 'empirical evidence' is NOT 'overwhelming'...too many

Re: [CTRL] Media Ignore Sister Jeanne's Corroboration of Juan Miguel's Abuse (fwd)

2000-04-17 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
If Juan Miguel was so abusive, why did the Miami relatives constantly ask for him to come to the U.S.? Why did this story of alleged abuse surface only AFTER he indeed came here? If this nun indeed heard what she believed she heard when both grandmothers were here (even though before coming

Re: [CTRL] Lab Analysis Of Chemtrails: Virulent Bio-Toxin Soup

2000-04-15 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
What I don't understand is how those who are responsible for spraying this stuff escape it's effects... There're no vaccinations against toxic molds and pseudomonasif the idea is to sicken the population and cause a certain percentage of deaths, this is a 'scattershot' manner of delivery,

Re: [CTRL] Did Stephen King Invent Janet Reno?

2000-04-15 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "Kris Millegan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] They speak of "returning Elian" to his father. This is stated as if the boy was taken from his father. They ignore the fact that Elian's father did not have custody of the boy while Elian lived in Cuba. Ellian lived with his mother and step-father. Not

Re: [CTRL] WS: The Justice Dept. and the Rule of Law (fwd)

2000-04-13 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "MICHAEL SPITZER" [EMAIL PROTECTED] One of the first news photos of Juan Miguel González arriving at Dulles International Airport to reclaim his son Elián showed him in mid-stride, so you could see the soles of his shoes. They were unmarred by any contact with pavement; they'd obviously

Re: [CTRL] [OT] Many e-retailers may soon go bust (fwd)

2000-04-13 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
What did this have to do with Conspiracy Theory Research? June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid

Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-10 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "Don Huffman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you for sharing your grief with us. Let us all remember that we all have sinned and must throw ourselves on the mercy of God. We all have fallen natures and it is easy for us fall. Bernard Natanson who sent his girl friend off to Canada for an

Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-10 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "Don Huffman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Every abortion leads to the death of something sacred to God; but not every abortion leads to the death of the mother. That is logical, isn't it? Only to you. To some people, an abortion is just getting rid of some fecal tissue, not 'the death of

Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-10 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "Bob Stokes" [EMAIL PROTECTED] I would say that her choice to abuse alcohol ruined her life, not the fact that she had an abortion. AA says that something causes people to drink excessively, in this case it does seem that her having an abortion was the cause. If AA says that, they're

Re: [CTRL] Elian Gozales' Father Needs to Defect

2000-04-10 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "Bob Stokes" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, we do live in a Republic, where a mob like the Cubans encamped outside the home where Elian Gonzalez is staying have no right to ram their ideology down the throats of others... Then you are saying that it is OK for those of your ilk to ram your

Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-10 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "Foxter" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do you think of yourself in your mother's womb as fecal tissue? What I think doesn't matter. What matters is what each woman contemplating abortion thinks, and that each woman has a choice. June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION

Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-10 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "Don Huffman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] He wasn't Catholic. More importantly he was an atheist then, but be- cause the abortion cost him his first love there was something about a- bortion that was to him against human reason. Are you Jewish? Beware of the Jewish persecution complex. You

Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-10 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "Don Huffman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] You are talking about objective truth versus subjective truth. If I do violece to you; I can say you had it coming. But the law could say: June did nothing to you but say you were wrong and you beat her up. Put your hands behind your back... There are

Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-10 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "Don Huffman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why can't I exercise my right to choose to own you as my slave? It's in the bible. Because the law of land says you can't own slaves here. Just as the law of the land ratified a woman's right to choose to have an abortion or not. And BTW, those who are

Re: [CTRL] Elian Gozales' Father Needs to Defect

2000-04-10 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "Bob Stokes" [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have no idea what was in the mother's mind; according to her own mother, she had a good life in Cuba, and according to her mother was not unhappy and was not political. Her mother has been quoted as saying she suspects the new husband was behind the

Re: [CTRL] Juan Miguel Divorced Elian's Mom Years Before Boy's Birth

2000-04-10 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
When I see Juan Miguel on TV, it seems to me that Elian is the spitting image of him. I don't know what the deal was with their marriage, but it seems to me any competant person can tell just by looking that Juan Miguel is Elian's biological father. But of course, since he's obviously not an

Re: [CTRL] Elian Gozales' Father Needs to Defect

2000-04-09 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "Theodor Parada, MD" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Joshua2 wrote: They now live in a democratic country where the majority AND the laws are against them. Thank the lord that we live in a Republic which guarantees minority rights and not democratic mob rule. So who is the 'democratic mob' in this

Re: [CTRL] Elian Gozales' Father Needs to Defect

2000-04-09 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "William Shannon" [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's not that "we" don't want him, it's that his dad DOES want him... And I watch with disgust the mob scene in Miami, a Faubus/Wallace wannabe mayor, and a ton of Miami Cubans with no regard for this country's laws... Could you imagine being the

Re: [CTRL] Elian Gozales' Father Needs to Defect

2000-04-09 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "Bob Stokes" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Error ... WE live in a Republic. How can you prove the majoroty and the laws are against them? Yes, we do live in a Republic, where a mob like the Cubans encamped outside the home where Elian Gonzalez is staying have no right to ram their ideology down

Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-09 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "William Shannon" [EMAIL PROTECTED] The reason we are called prolife is because we are concerned about protecting life from conception until natural death. We are active against euthanasia. The rub Tara is that most self-professed "pro-lifers" are also pro-death

Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-09 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "Bob Stokes" [EMAIL PROTECTED] I guess you could say that abortion ruined her life. I would say that her choice to abuse alcohol ruined her life, not the fact that she had an abortion. Because of these personal experiences I often wonder if an abortion fouls a woman's life, or

Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-09 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "Don Huffman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for your observations. We men need to take a stand against abor- tion. The pro-abortion people do not tell the side you have told about how abortion affect a women who is created to norish life and not de- stoy life. Ignoring the blatant sexism

Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-09 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "Bob Stokes" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Any ladies out there that have had an abortion, or know someone who has - have some light to shed on this subject? I would appreciate some comments about whether or not this has come back to haunt them, or didn't make any difference. As I pointed out, I

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