[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's secret!

2008-01-20 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity ruthsimplicity@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: [I wrote:] I wish Lawson were still here.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's secret!

2008-01-20 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 19, 2008, at 9:42 PM, tertonzeno wrote: ---It's the power in the mantra that's essential; and not present to the same degree in mantras of other traditions I've been intiated into. I've had the opposite

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's secret!

2008-01-20 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We may not be using the term hypnosis the same way, that's true. It's the element of suggestion that I don't find consistent with TM, just on its face. I agree with this. I'm not sure I do. The intro

[FairfieldLife] Re: 12-story tower in Fairfield

2008-01-20 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, The Secret [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity ruthsimplicity@ wrote: Edg, you wanted to do something good and positive. Tell me where

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's secret!

2008-01-20 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: On Behalf Of authfriend Not everyone thought his comments were unsubstantial. I found many of them extremely meaty. He has an almost Zenlike

[FairfieldLife] Re: 12-story tower in Fairfield

2008-01-20 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, The Secret L.Shaddai@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity ruthsimplicity@

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's secret!

2008-01-20 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: On Behalf Of authfriend Not everyone thought his comments were unsubstantial.

[FairfieldLife] Word fun

2008-01-20 Thread TurquoiseB
Here is the Washington Post's Mensa Invitational which once again asked readers to take any word from the dictionary, alter it by adding, subtracting, or changing one letter, and supply a new definition. The winners: 1. Cashtration (n.): The act of buying a house, which renders the subject

[FairfieldLife] Re: Word fun

2008-01-20 Thread TurquoiseB
Wow. That first contest so much fun that I sat in a cafe for a few minutes this afternoon and tried to come up with some of my own entries. Enjoy, and please contribute your own. This is a really fun word game. Entightenment (n): A higher state of being that your plastic surgeon can help you out

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's secret!

2008-01-20 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Yeah, well, if it's your POV that TM is hypnosis, like I said, forget it, whether you're pitching it or not. Our understandings

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's secret!

2008-01-20 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Yeah, well, if it's your POV that TM is hypnosis, like

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's secret!

2008-01-20 Thread Vaj
On Jan 19, 2008, at 11:11 PM, Rick Archer wrote: (I started posting here in May 2005, as did a few others who had been regulars on alt.m.t, including Lawson, who dropped out this past summer because he felt unappreciated.) Translation: people didn’t appreciate the fact that he ignored

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's secret!

2008-01-20 Thread Vaj
On Jan 19, 2008, at 11:18 PM, Rick Archer wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com ]On Behalf Of Vaj Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 8:29 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's secret! When I got my mantras

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's secret!

2008-01-20 Thread Vaj
On Jan 19, 2008, at 11:41 PM, authfriend wrote: We may not be using the term hypnosis the same way, that's true. It's the element of suggestion that I don't find consistent with TM, just on its face. What don't you find suggestive about sit easily?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 12-story tower in Fairfield

2008-01-20 Thread Peter
--- The Secret [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity ruthsimplicity@ wrote: Edg, you wanted to do something good and positive. Tell me where they are begging for

[FairfieldLife] TM Checking and Hypnosis, Part I

2008-01-20 Thread Vaj
TM Checking and Hypnosis, Part I Posted by John M. Knapp, LMSW at 3/04/2007 10:33:00 PM The longer I spend with the Checking Notes, the more I'm convinced it's all in there. --Anonymous TM Teacher Year after year, the interest in the Movement is growing due to the success of Checking.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's secret!

2008-01-20 Thread Peter
--- do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Yeah, well, if it's your POV that TM is hypnosis, like I said, forget it, whether

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's secret!

2008-01-20 Thread Vaj
On Jan 20, 2008, at 8:41 AM, Peter wrote: By the way, being trained to teach TM and hypnosis and having experienced both here's my take: TM and hypnosis are initially identical Exactly. Sad thing is, some people get stuck on that initial phase and never move beyond. When they go to a form

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Checking and Hypnosis, Part I

2008-01-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TM Checking and Hypnosis, Part I Posted by John M. Knapp, LMSW at 3/04/2007 10:33:00 PM snip Despite their importance, evidenced by the rigorous testing procedure, according to the restrictions imposed by TTC course leaders,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Checking and Hypnosis, Part I

2008-01-20 Thread Vaj
On Jan 20, 2008, at 9:15 AM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TM Checking and Hypnosis, Part I Posted by John M. Knapp, LMSW at 3/04/2007 10:33:00 PM snip Despite their importance, evidenced by the rigorous testing procedure, according

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Checking and Hypnosis, Part I

2008-01-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 20, 2008, at 9:15 AM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: TM Checking and Hypnosis, Part I Posted by John M. Knapp, LMSW at 3/04/2007 10:33:00 PM snip Despite

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's secret!

2008-01-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip By the way, being trained to teach TM and hypnosis and having experienced both here's my take: TM and hypnosis are initially identical. The difference with TM though is the continued quieting of the mind's activity and

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Checking and Hypnosis, Part I

2008-01-20 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I compare Transcendental Meditation's Checking procedure to trance induction or hypnotism. Maybe you are a total newbie, Vaj, or you have an axe to grind. TM has a very characteristic oxygen consumption fingerprint, and so

[FairfieldLife] TM Checking and Hypnosis, Part I

2008-01-20 Thread Vaj
TM Checking and Hypnosis, Part I Posted by John M. Knapp, LMSW at 3/04/2007 10:33:00 PM The longer I spend with the Checking Notes, the more I'm convinced it's all in there. --Anonymous TM Teacher Year after year, the interest in the Movement is growing due to the success of Checking.

[FairfieldLife] Cadfael

2008-01-20 Thread TurquoiseB
We've talked about other favorite TV series here, but one that I don't think has come up is Cadfael. Anyone else here a fan? For the uninitiated, Cadfael was an ITV production of a TV series based on the popular Brother Cadfael novels by Ellis Peters (Edith Pargeter). As novels, these stories

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Checking and Hypnosis, Part I

2008-01-20 Thread Vaj
On Jan 20, 2008, at 9:26 AM, uns_tressor wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I compare Transcendental Meditation's Checking procedure to trance induction or hypnotism. Maybe you are a total newbie, Vaj, or you have an axe to grind. TM has a very

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's secret!

2008-01-20 Thread curtisdeltablues
Exactly. Sad thing is, some people get stuck on that initial phase and never move beyond. When they go to a form of deep meditation, they're often shocked at how 'the bottom drops out' of their 'transcendent'. Usually after that they realize they were simply languishing in a light, blissy trance

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's secret!

2008-01-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote I don't even think Lawson was even meditating at the time, but he was really into the TM preacher thang. That's kinda where Lawson fell a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's secret!

2008-01-20 Thread Angela Mailander
Brilliant. - Original Message From: Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 7:37:57 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's secret! On Jan 19, 2008, at 11:41 PM, authfriend wrote: We may not be using

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Checking and Hypnosis, Part I

2008-01-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip It would really depend on what type of hypnosis state you were comparing it to. And of course TM researchers had no interest whatsoever in comparing TM to one that was the same, they simply found one that was

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's secret!

2008-01-20 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote I don't even think Lawson was even meditating at the time, but he was really into the TM preacher thang. That's kinda where Lawson fell a little short in the credibililty dept. He was Mr. Positive Benefits of TM, Mr.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's secret!

2008-01-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity ruthsimplicity@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's secret!

2008-01-20 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ruth, please read what I wrote again. Whether hypnosis can be ruled out by common sense depends on how one understands TM. In my understanding, it's a matter of common sense. If it isn't in Curtis's understanding, then

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's secret!

2008-01-20 Thread curtisdeltablues
Curtis, with all due respect, you said: ...I don't know enough about either state to make clear distinctions. I can't even clearly define hypnosis or meditative state Judy. That appears to be a clear contradiction to what you just said above it. But nevertheless, you seem to be OK with

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's secret!

2008-01-20 Thread curtisdeltablues
Thanks for the information Stu. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Stu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I've been doing some meditation lately. I am experimenting with not using the mantra. In past

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's secret!

2008-01-20 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Curtis, with all due respect, you said: ...I don't know enough about either state to make clear distinctions. I can't even clearly define hypnosis or meditative state Judy. That appears to be a clear

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's secret!

2008-01-20 Thread authfriend
Note that we have here two more examples of Barry's continuing obsession with the number of my posts. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's secret!

2008-01-20 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Note that we have here two more examples of Barry's continuing obsession with the number of my posts. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's secret!

2008-01-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brilliant. Not. Non sequitur, in fact. From: Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Jan 19, 2008, at 11:41 PM, authfriend wrote: We may not be using the term hypnosis the same way, that's true. It's the element of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's secret!

2008-01-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Ruth, please read what I wrote again. Whether hypnosis can be ruled out by common sense depends on how one understands TM. In my understanding,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's secret!

2008-01-20 Thread Angela Mailander
It would be next to impossible to teach something to anyone without providing some expectation. But children may really be what we think they are: innocent. And, as I've suggested before, innocence (maintained throughout experience, or [we hope] at least recovered before we fucking die)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's secret!

2008-01-20 Thread Angela Mailander
That's why I trust it implicitly. - Original Message From: authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 9:02:59 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's secret! --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi's secret! I am NOT missing the over posterSHEMP

2008-01-20 Thread WLeed3
I am NOT missing him In a message dated 1/19/2008 11:57:05 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of authfriend Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 10:36 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's secret!

2008-01-20 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: We may not be using the term hypnosis the same way, that's true. It's the element of suggestion that I don't find consistent with

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's secret!

2008-01-20 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander mailander111@ wrote: Brilliant. Not. Non sequitur, in fact. From: Vaj vajranatha@ On Jan 19, 2008, at 11:41 PM, authfriend wrote: We may not be

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's secret!

2008-01-20 Thread Angela Mailander
Judy (snipped): As far as credibility is concerned, notice that he himself *told* us he wasn't always regular. Me (castrated and evicerated): What? Turq not regular?? What could you possibly mean, Judy?? How can that which is eternal not be regular? I mean in the sense of regularly occurring.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's secret!

2008-01-20 Thread Richard J. Williams
There's only one Sri Yantra, Bharat2, associated with the Sri Vidya sect, and that is the Sri Chakra. Bhairatu wrote: My point was that many yantras have bij mantras on them so you can't claim that Sri Yantra is the source. There is only ONE Sri Yantra associated with the Sri Vidya

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's secret!

2008-01-20 Thread Angela Mailander
But don't you think that Barry's point of view is just what the doctor ordered??? For me, your point of view is that--on the grounds that all this is {infact} that {mosquitoes included}. - Original Message From: authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's secret!

2008-01-20 Thread Angela Mailander
Curtis writes (snipped) They both seem to end up in the same place for me subjectively. There is a lack of study comparing the states of mind. These fields have kept each other at arms length. That is where the lack of knowledge of comparing them comes from. Me writes (snipped): Amen

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's secret!

2008-01-20 Thread Angela Mailander
Judy (snipped): not in fact Me (all butt): but in spirit. - Original Message From: authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 9:33:21 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's secret! --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Checking and Hypnosis, Part I

2008-01-20 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Judy {snipped (to the extent that Judy, can, in fact, [be] snipped {not to say, castrated): Depending, of course, on exactly what is being measured and to what degree of refinement. Me {similarly worked over}:

[FairfieldLife] Mindfulness' helpfulness

2008-01-20 Thread Vaj
Mindfulness of Mind by Michael Stroud Shambhala Sun, March 2008 The Dalai Lama advocates a Buddhist approach to a variety of mental health problems, including depression. MICHAEL STROUD reports on the growing evidence of meditation's helpfulness. TWENTY THREE YEARS AGO, during a weeklong

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's secret!

2008-01-20 Thread Angela Mailander
Here's my humble vote for best joke of the week: Sounds like someone I know...me! Although I have not had the bottom fall out of my world I did experience the world falling out of my bottom in New Delhi! Life's a blissy turd. - Original Message From: curtisdeltablues [EMAIL

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's secret!

2008-01-20 Thread Angela Mailander
Ruth (snipped) :Non sequitur from what? I think that teaching TM and checking TM involves a number of suggestions to put people in an open and relaxed frame of mind before they start meditating. No big deal. Don't people at least agree on that? Me (snipped): Yes. And that is totally

Re: [FairfieldLife] Cadfael I enjoy as well EXCELLENT have some DVD'sof him

2008-01-20 Thread WLeed3
Excellent historical series as well on our PBS stations. I have not found a historical flaw in the series re our 1 St civil war,between the Empress Maud rightful heir King Stephen. I also agree on a par with, The Name of the Rose. In a message dated 1/20/2008 9:50:38 A.M. Eastern

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Checking and Hypnosis, Part I

2008-01-20 Thread Angela Mailander
Judy {snipped (to the extent that Judy, can, in fact, [be] snipped {not to say, castrated): Depending, of course, on exactly what is being measured and to what degree of refinement. Me {similarly worked over}: Saint Augustin: I measure it from side to side, but what it is I measure, I do not

[FairfieldLife] Shemp is restored

2008-01-20 Thread Rick Archer
Go forth and multiply, but not in excess of 50 posts. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.7/1233 - Release Date: 1/19/2008 6:37 PM

[FairfieldLife] Posting Limit- was 35/ week - now 50 / week - please enforce sanctions

2008-01-20 Thread mainstream20016
On FFL, when a poster's upper limit of 50 / week is approached, it seems that the tone of discourse and quality of posts deteriorates dramatically. In the past six months, the limit was raised from 35 / week to 50 / week, and strong sanctions for exceeding the limit were put into place.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Checking and Hypnosis, Part I

2008-01-20 Thread Angela Mailander
Doremeflex (snipped): One of you comes off as a presumptuous, bloviating, crone who thinks much more of herself than she delivers. And it isn't Judy. Me (Bloated to the max): you mean that in your estimation I have won asshole of week? My championship is unchallenged!!! I'm the greatest.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Cadfael I enjoy as well EXCELLENT have some DVD'sof him

2008-01-20 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Excellent historical series as well on our PBS stations. I have not found a historical flaw in the series re our 1 St civil war,between the Empress Maud rightful heir King Stephen. I also agree on a par with, The Name of the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's secret!

2008-01-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander mailander111@ wrote: Brilliant. Not. Non sequitur, in fact. From: Vaj

[FairfieldLife] Re: Insider's Report

2008-01-20 Thread Richard J. Williams
Here is the only known photograph taken inside the Barsana Dham Temple during a meditation session. The Swami, the guy in the ochre robe, is the Swami Prakashananda Saraswati, a direct diciple of Swami Brahmananda Saraswati of Jyotirmath. That's me sitting at his feet, the guy with the silly

[FairfieldLife] The one undisputed fact about Guru DevJi

2008-01-20 Thread Richard J. Williams
Apparently, the Swami Prakashanand Saraswati gave Robert Kropinsky a 'letter of introduction' in order to get an audience with the Swami Swaroopanand at Guru Dev's oldest living desciple birtday celebration in Brindaban. But, when the Swami Swaroop finds out that the Swami Prakash hosted a

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Checking and Hypnosis, Part I

2008-01-20 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doremeflex (snipped): One of you comes off as a presumptuous, bloviating, crone who thinks much more of herself than she delivers. And it isn't Judy. Me (Bloated to the max): you mean that in your estimation I

[FairfieldLife] Re: The view from up here

2008-01-20 Thread Richard J. Williams
MDixon wrote: Austin, is the Jerusalem of the western hemisphere. Charles White, the university Tower shooter, That would be Charles Whitman. And you forgot the 'Butthole Surfers' and all those other weirdos that appear on Austin City Limits on PBS. But really there's only one name you need

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's secret!

2008-01-20 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vaj Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 7:34 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's secret! Actually when I went to Devi Bhava there were only about 50 of us. Very intimate

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's secret!

2008-01-20 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I certainly do. That's why Vaj's question was a non sequitur; it's not a point of contention. Key words: Before they start meditating. As I said to Peter, you can't suggest something (a) that you can't describe

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's secret!

2008-01-20 Thread Richard J. Williams
Judy wrote: This discussion was about *whether* he had said anything about the origin of the technique. Actually I think the discussion was about the origin of the TM mantras. It's obvious from the discussion that some TM teachers didn't have a clue about this. What is amazing is that here we

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's secret!

2008-01-20 Thread Angela Mailander
I think the distinction was implicit in what Curtisdeltablues said, but Judy missed it. Now that she understands it, I think we're all pretty much in agreement. - Original Message From: ruthsimplicity [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's secret!

2008-01-20 Thread Vaj
On Jan 20, 2008, at 11:58 AM, Rick Archer wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com ]On Behalf Of Vaj Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 7:34 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's secret! Actually when I went

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's secret!

2008-01-20 Thread Vaj
On Jan 20, 2008, at 12:29 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote: OK. I was getting the impression that there was a disagreement on the use of suggestions because there was not a clear distinction made between getting ready to meditate and meditating. It looks like Vaj and Angela had the same impression as

[FairfieldLife] question for Bhairitu

2008-01-20 Thread Angela Mailander
Hey, Bhairitu, Check out this link: http://aa.mg2.mail.yahoo.com/dc/launch?.rand=2c52v8ajekrtg It's an article about an alleged plan by the government to treat a pandemic (like bird flue) like a military emergency. I.e. declare martial law (in essence) and treat sick folks as if they were

[FairfieldLife] Meditator Culture

2008-01-20 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Yes. Differently about this thread around suggestion and instruction. In culture of the group we probably did get some less overt value things growing up with this and doing this for a few decades. Is an interesting distinction between taking suggestion and instruction though in some of what

[FairfieldLife] Re: question for Bhairitu

2008-01-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, Bhairitu, Check out this link: http://aa.mg2.mail.yahoo.com/dc/launch?.rand=2c52v8ajekrtg It's an article about an alleged plan by the government to treat a pandemic (like bird flue) like a military

RE: [FairfieldLife] Posting Limit- was 35/ week - now 50 / week - please enforce sanctions

2008-01-20 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mainstream20016 Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 10:56 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Posting Limit- was 35/ week - now 50 / week - please enforce sanctions On FFL, when a poster's upper

Re: [FairfieldLife] question for Bhairitu

2008-01-20 Thread Bhairitu
Angela Mailander wrote: Hey, Bhairitu, Check out this link: http://aa.mg2.mail.yahoo.com/dc/launch?.rand=2c52v8ajekrtg It's an article about an alleged plan by the government to treat a pandemic (like bird flue) like a military emergency. I.e. declare martial law (in essence) and treat

Re: [FairfieldLife] Meditator Culture

2008-01-20 Thread Bhairitu
dhamiltony2k5 wrote: Yes. Differently about this thread around suggestion and instruction. In culture of the group we probably did get some less overt value things growing up with this and doing this for a few decades. Is an interesting distinction between taking suggestion and instruction

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There Will Be Blood

2008-01-20 Thread Bhairitu
(Turq and others mainstream gives a spoiler here) mainstream20016 wrote: Were we to have a glimmer of hope for equity, the film would have made the grade as a damning critique of ruthless entrepreneurship. TWBB only demonstrates the monstrosity of greed, it doesn't give direction to how

Re: [FairfieldLife] Posting Limit- was 35/ week - now 50 / week - please enforce sanctions

2008-01-20 Thread Bhairitu
Rick Archer wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mainstream20016 Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 10:56 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Posting Limit- was 35/ week - now 50 / week - please enforce sanctions On

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's secret!

2008-01-20 Thread Bhairitu
Richard J. Williams wrote: There's only one Sri Yantra, Bharat2, associated with the Sri Vidya sect, and that is the Sri Chakra. Bhairatu wrote: My point was that many yantras have bij mantras on them so you can't claim that Sri Yantra is the source. There is only ONE

Re: [FairfieldLife] question for Bhairitu

2008-01-20 Thread Angela Mailander
Yes, hell to pay is always the danger. Good thing we've got hells to pay with. - Original Message From: Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 1:52:34 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] question for Bhairitu

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's secret!

2008-01-20 Thread Bhairitu
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[FairfieldLife] A Message from Leonard Jacobson and the Conscious Living Foundation

2008-01-20 Thread Rick Archer
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Posting Limit- was 35/ week - now 50Aweek LETS RETURN 2 (35)

2008-01-20 Thread WLeed3
Lets return to 35 In a message dated 1/20/2008 2:28:01 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mainstream20016 Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 10:56 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

[FairfieldLife] Essential Insanity - [on target essay]

2008-01-20 Thread do.rflex
Essential Insanity by Ian Welsh firedoglake, January 20, 2008 http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/20/essential-insanity/ Walk with me a while and imagine you are mad. Crazy. Insane. It's an interesting sort of insanity--you see the world as something other than it is. You are dead convinced that

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Checking and Hypnosis, Part I

2008-01-20 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TM O2 consumption is no different from sleep (or the EEG sequences for that matter!). Now I know where the Flat Earth Society get their members. Uns.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's secret!

2008-01-20 Thread tertonzeno
---This historical background is quite fascinating, but limited in relavance as I see the situation. For example, I haven't found any good techniques associated with the Sri Yantra. There's the Sri Vidya mantra which I have chanted (and discarded in favor of others), and the Lalita

[FairfieldLife] Re: Essential Insanity - [on target essay]

2008-01-20 Thread Richard J. Williams
Americans went along with going to war with Iraq then because they thought Iraq had attacked them and had nukes and could attack them again. A complete propaganda tissue of lies. But if you believe it all, well of course Iraq needed to be attacked. Those lying politicians! Getting rid

[FairfieldLife] Reawakening the American Soul

2008-01-20 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Emerson, social science, India Tibet in America: To finish building the free society dreamed of by Washington, Franklin and Jefferson, we must draw upon the resources of the enlightened imagination, which can be systematically developed by the spiritual sciences of India and Tibet.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's secret!

2008-01-20 Thread Vaj
On Jan 20, 2008, at 4:22 PM, tertonzeno wrote: ---This historical background is quite fascinating, but limited in relavance as I see the situation. For example, I haven't found any good techniques associated with the Sri Yantra. There's the Sri Vidya mantra which I have chanted (and discarded

[FairfieldLife] Richard and Lynn Casidy

2008-01-20 Thread The Secret
Please give me and friends that lowdown on this governor couple which for USD 400 tells you your level of consciousness on a scale of 1 to 1,000 and for the initial fee continue to make follow up phone calls on one's status. Of course I have my own opinion, but this is being asked for a friend.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's secret!

2008-01-20 Thread Richard J. Williams
tertonzeno wrote: ---This historical background is quite fascinating, but limited in relavance as I see the situation. For example, I haven't found any good techniques associated with the Sri Yantra. There's the Sri Vidya mantra which I have chanted (and discarded in favor of

[FairfieldLife] Re: silver galactic ocean + physiology of wealth

2008-01-20 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, george_deforest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DOME ANNOUNCEMENTS--Maharishi, Sanskrit course from Dome Announcements [EMAIL PROTECTED] date Jan 20, 2008 12:41 PM 1. Good News from Dr. Bevan Morris 2. Sanskrit Recitation Course at The Raj 1. Good News

[FairfieldLife] Reductionism and understanding consciousness

2008-01-20 Thread bob_brigante
http://tinyurl.com/297jxe January 20, 2008 Los Angeles Times Misreading the mind If neuroscientists want to understand the mystery of consciousness, they'll need new methods. By Jonah Lehrer Since its inception in the early 20th century, neuroscience has taught us a tremendous amount

[FairfieldLife] silver galactic ocean + physiology of wealth

2008-01-20 Thread george_deforest
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[FairfieldLife] The Big Chill

2008-01-20 Thread authfriend
Headline for an AP Sports story about today's Packers- Giants game in Green Bay: Plummeting temperatures mean frozen balls and sleeveless jerseys http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap- nfcchampionshipprov=aptype=lgns http://tinyurl.com/4e4zh

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: question for Bhairitu

2008-01-20 Thread Angela Mailander
Don't try, Judy. It is impossible to straighten me out. - Original Message From: authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 12:42:46 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: question for Bhairitu --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Richard and Lynn Casidy

2008-01-20 Thread feste37
I know one person who has done this and is very happy with it. I think the guy may be sincere and genuinely believes he can channel divine energies your way, but it seems like an unconscious scam to me, if that's the right phrase. He gets a lot of money each time someone enrolls but he doesn't

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's secret!

2008-01-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the distinction was implicit in what Curtisdeltablues said, but Judy missed it. Now that she understands it, I think we're all pretty much in agreement. Angela. Every single time you venture to suss out

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Richard and Lynn Casidy

2008-01-20 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of feste37 Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 4:35 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Richard and Lynn Casidy I know one person who has done this and is very happy with it. I think the guy may

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