--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote:
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Peter drpetersutphen@... wrote:
--- On Mon, 1/24/11, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
Maharishi commented something like; even poison can give
enlightenment.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote:
No effort on this path is every wasted -- Krishna,
*Bhagavad Gita*
No effort is wasted because no effort is used! -MMY commentary.
There are times when
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@ wrote:
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote:
--- On Mon, 1/24/11, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote:
No effort on this path is every wasted -- Krishna,
*Bhagavad Gita*
No effort
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote:
Hmm. I've heard rumors from a very reliable source that TM /might/ include
visualization.
It sure seemed to me that Maharishi wanted out of India on the first plane
to Hawaii.
You are making fun, right? Now, let's
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote:
No effort on
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@ wrote:
Hmm. I've heard rumors from a very reliable source that TM /might/
include
visualization.
It sure seemed to me that Maharishi wanted out of India on
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote:
Fine with me. I am not speaking about a big group hug where we all try to get
along. What I am going for has *almost* nothing to do with that.
Why almost? And why did you write:
'I want to clarify that the group I was
On Jan 26, 2011, at 5:05 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
There are times when reading FFL is like reading a
forum on which most people's education stopped at
the sixth grade. This is one of those times.
Just because you were told something 'way back
when doesn't make it true.
I find it mind-boggling
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
That is, the fallout of Maharishi's famous Every ques-
tion is a perfect opportunity for the answer we have
already prepared. THAT was -- and still is -- the TM
mindset. You ask questions, we give you the pat answer
we
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
On Mon, Jan
On Jan 26, 2011, at 6:47 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
In other words, IMO, Pat Answer Syndrome -- present-
ing theories or partial truths as Truth -- has in
the long run a deleterious effect. It breeds stasis
in those who accept the pat answers as Truth, breeds
a lack of curiosity as to finding out
From Michael Coulson's Sanskrit Primer, p. 233:
(Legend: eliminated vowel(s) due to sandhi.)
'tatrabhavaan kaNvaH shaashvate brahmaNi vartate,
iyaM ca vaH sakhii tasy aatmaj' eti katham etat?
(sandhi-vigraha: 'tatrabhavaan kaNvaH shaashvate brahmaNi vartate,
iyam; ca vaH sakhii tasya +
Today's the day.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
That is, the fallout of Maharishi's famous Every ques-
tion is a perfect opportunity for the answer we have
already prepared. THAT was -- and still
Deceit
Lies
Heart breaks
Pretending to love each other
but faux love erodes its luster
it fades and wears
as time passes
Apprehensions
Confusions
Jealousy
Plastic love gives
Fancy
Pretensions
Only tensions and anxiety it brings
Don’t hold on it
Let it go
Don’t cling with it
Escape
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut no_reply@... wrote:
As the links from the above page don't work, I try a little bit of hacking,
and yes here:
http://en.dou.us/view_content.php?s_id=44page=3
Bluscout,
That is one heck of a hack. Great find.
Good concise survey in one
On Jan 26, 2011, at 3:34 AM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@...
wrote:
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Peter drpetersutphen@... wrote:
--- On Mon, 1/24/11, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
wrote:
Maharishi commented
On Jan 26, 2011, at 7:24 AM, seventhray1 wrote:
I find this kind of funny, and I think I have mentioned it before, (but I am
rushing this morning), but it seems to me that a student, any student
approaches a teacher with a somewhat open mind. He may engage the teacher
with questions, and
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Champs Ulysses Cabinatan
yulezest143@... wrote:
Do you believe in life after birth?
Well, hell yes Champs. It's lambing time and I sees it all the time.
Life after birth. Don't got to believe it, I knows it.
-Buck
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
On Jan 26, 2011, at 6:47 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
In other words, IMO, Pat Answer Syndrome -- present-
ing theories or partial truths as Truth -- has in
the long run a deleterious effect. It breeds stasis
in those who
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@ wrote:
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Champs Ulysses Cabinatan
yulezest143@... wrote:
Plastic love gives
Yes plastic yes lovegives:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXf8k_5UwWY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote:
No effort on this path is every wasted -- Krishna,
*Bhagavad Gita*
No effort
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@ wrote:
snip
No effort on this path is every wasted -- Krishna,
*Bhagavad Gita*
No effort
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
snip
That is, the fallout of Maharishi's famous Every ques-
tion is a perfect opportunity for the answer we have
already prepared. THAT was -- and still is -- the TM
mindset. You ask questions, we give you the pat answer
we
On Jan 26, 2011, at 10:08 AM, sparaig wrote:
Effort achieves the goal. - Shiva Sutra
Goal? We don't need no stinkin' goal. Buddha Berra.
The goal refers to jivanmukti, or liberation in this very life.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
On Jan 26, 2011, at 10:08 AM, sparaig wrote:
Effort achieves the goal. - Shiva Sutra
Goal? We don't need no stinkin' goal. Buddha Berra.
The goal refers to jivanmukti, or liberation in this very life.
Irony is
On Jan 26, 2011, at 10:11 AM, sparaig wrote:
Hmmm, changing your tune, Vaj? Or just stirring up controversy.
BTW, my own take is that one can glean the most subtle aspects of
Vedic teaching from MMY's most superficial exposition if one is
subtle enough, and that the most subtle teachings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
On Jan 26, 2011, at 10:11 AM, sparaig wrote:
Hmmm, changing your tune, Vaj? Or just stirring up controversy.
BTW, my own take is that one can glean the most subtle aspects of
Vedic teaching from MMY's most
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote:
No effort on this path is every wasted -- Krishna,
*Bhagavad Gita*
No effort
On Jan 26, 2011, at 10:20 AM, sparaig wrote:
People like to tell me that intent is 'required to meditate and
therefore there has to be some effort.
MMY said least effort in the directon of less effort and my
observation is that whatever effort you find yourself using, is
more than is
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote:
snip
I have been in situations, in person, where people have
questioned Maharishi, and he spent time attempting to answer
the question, and the follow up question, and then the
follow up question.
There's one videotape
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
On Jan 26, 2011, at 10:20 AM, sparaig wrote:
People like to tell me that intent is 'required to meditate and
therefore there has to be some effort.
MMY said least effort in the directon of less effort and my
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:
snip
BTW, my own take is that one can glean the most subtle aspects
of Vedic teaching from MMY's most superficial exposition if
one is subtle enough, and that the most subtle teachings are
wasted if you aren't.
I wouldn't want
Sycophants always turn a blind eye to the truth;
not surprising. (even to this day!)
So, why didn't you speak up?
yfluxero:
But why reject the truth with an appalling blindness
that flies in the face of the obvious facts...
So, the truth is just some rumors you heard. You
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
On Jan 26, 2011, at 3:34 AM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@
wrote:
snip
No effort on this path is
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
On Jan 26, 2011, at 10:20 AM, sparaig wrote:
People like to tell me that intent is 'required to meditate and
therefore there has to be some
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@ wrote:
snip
No effort
Happy Birthday dude! Glad to have you around.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote:
Today's the day.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
snip
BTW, my own take is that one can glean the most subtle aspects
of Vedic teaching from MMY's most superficial exposition if
one is subtle enough, and
But basically - ho hum, what else is new?
Doesn't impact my practice. But why reject
the truth with an appalling blindness
that flies in the face of the obvious facts.
Depends upon one's priorities I guess. Some
people simply want to continue as TB and
reject new ideas..
Tom
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wgm4u@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
--- In
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wgm4u@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
--- In
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut no_reply@ wrote:
As the links from the above page don't work, I try a little bit of hacking,
and yes here:
http://en.dou.us/view_content.php?s_id=44page=3
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:
Spending two hours concentrating on the eye-focus each day will help our
attention withdraw from the body. Generally our sensory currents which give
us
sensation of this physical world are spread out through the body.
I agree if we want something from the teacher and just can't find a
satisfactory answer, it is time to move on. I have always been grateful to
Maharishi, even *deified* him for awhile, or maybe became a groupie for a few
years would be a better way to put it, but after learning a self
On Jan 26, 2011, at 11:14 AM, sparaig wrote:
I put guru in quotes when I refer to MMY. I would have loved to
have met him/studied with him/etc., but I take his teachings at
face value: I don't need direct exposure to a guru (any guru) to
gain enlightenment and I trust his judgement
There is only a non-doer when there is a non-doer. When this is the condition
then there is the dharma of non-doing. Prior to this there is a doer and the
dharma associated with a doer.
--- On Wed, 1/26/11, sparaig lengli...@cox.net wrote:
From: sparaig lengli...@cox.net
Subject:
On Jan 26, 2011, at 11:23 AM, sparaig wrote:
How do you (or I) know that I thought the mantra 20 minutes ago
without noticing?
I assume that is how I slipped into the practice, but since I
didn't notice starting to think the mantra, perhaps I didn't.
Sheesh.
You're hung up on what *I*
Right on! :-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
On Jan 26, 2011, at 10:08 AM, sparaig wrote:
Effort achieves the goal. - Shiva Sutra
Goal? We don't need no stinkin' goal. Buddha Berra.
The goal refers to jivanmukti, or liberation in this very
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@... wrote:
There is only a non-doer when there is a non-doer. When
this is the condition then there is the dharma of non-doing.
Prior to this there is a doer and the dharma associated with
a doer.
My contention is that there is
MMY tried to seduce Western Culture (and India) into adopting MMY Vedic
Culture, he didn't come to the West to enlighten Joe Blow (you)as much as you
might like to think.
And he made no bones about it, his distaste for Western Democracies is well
known. To do this he only taught the most
On Jan 26, 2011, at 11:33 AM, sparaig wrote:
BTW, how do you know what I mean by mantra in the first place?
The assumption I was making was that you were referring to the
practice of TM.
Are you sitting in my head, evaluating my thinking process, judging
how refined or not refined it
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wgm4u@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
Spending two hours concentrating on the eye-focus each day will help our
attention withdraw from the body. Generally our sensory currents which
give us
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@... wrote:
There is only a non-doer when there is a non-doer. When this is the
condition then there is the dharma of non-doing. Prior to this there is a
doer and the dharma associated with a doer.
Right on Peter; when you're in a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
On Jan 26, 2011, at 11:14 AM, sparaig wrote:
I put guru in quotes when I refer to MMY. I would have loved to
have met him/studied with him/etc., but I take his teachings at
face value: I don't need direct exposure
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
On Jan 26, 2011, at 11:23 AM, sparaig wrote:
How do you (or I) know that I thought the mantra 20 minutes ago
without noticing?
I assume that is how I slipped into the practice, but since I
didn't notice starting
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
On Jan 26, 2011, at 11:33 AM, sparaig wrote:
BTW, how do you know what I mean by mantra in the first place?
The assumption I was making was that you were referring to the
practice of TM.
Are you sitting in my head,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wgm4u@... wrote:
MMY tried to seduce Western Culture (and India) into adopting MMY Vedic
Culture, he didn't come to the West to enlighten Joe Blow (you)as much as you
might like to think.
And he made no bones about it, his distaste for Western
It is a different kind of meditation Vaj. There is never an attempt to discern
the object clearly with TM.
The focus in TM, if you can call it that, is on the movement of the widening of
the container of consciousness, not on any object within it. The dynamic of
consciousness expansion is the
Bhairitu, Slate.com has a series of columns on 3D by a
guy named Daniel Engber, the most recent of which is a
rebuttal to Ebert, including Ebert's post with the letter
from Murch.
Among other points, he says the more 3D movies he watches,
the fewer problems he has watching them. He speculates
Isn't just to impart a mantra but actually to act as a guide on the inner
planes. Imagine slowly expanding your consciousness and embracing (witnessing)
the expanded universe in YOUR consciousness, the Guru is there as a beacon to
guide you in this vast endeavor and his radiant form has been
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
No effort is wasted because no effort is used! -MMY commentary.
Effort achieves the goal. - Shiva Sutra
Oh shucks! Which suutra, whose translation? :(
On Jan 26, 2011, at 12:13 PM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
On Jan 26, 2011, at 11:14 AM, sparaig wrote:
I put guru in quotes when I refer to MMY. I would have loved to
have met him/studied with him/etc., but I take his teachings at
On 01/26/2011 09:28 AM, authfriend wrote:
Bhairitu, Slate.com has a series of columns on 3D by a
guy named Daniel Engber, the most recent of which is a
rebuttal to Ebert, including Ebert's post with the letter
from Murch.
Among other points, he says the more 3D movies he watches,
the fewer
On Jan 26, 2011, at 12:15 PM, sparaig wrote:
You may just not have been mindful during your practice or you were
not able to discern your object clearly for whatever reason.
If you say so, Vaj.
As *I* have noted many times, you appear to never have gotten it.
You have said that, but
On 01/25/2011 04:16 PM, Tom Pall wrote:
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Bhairitunoozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
Anyway here is the blog that reported it based on the January 7th
employment report. Remember full time jobs are the operative words.
There are a lot of people out there making
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote:
My neighbour has a Rotweiler and what he communicates to me these days is
infinately more interesting than your posts.
Interesting. Do you
Re: ...there is the dharma of non-doing. Right, but it takes an apparent
person to even say that. Doership/non-doership are rolled into one: the
Self/non-doer as apparent existence. Nobody (who is anybody) can excape
conditional reality as long as they are embodied.
The statement I'm a non-doer
On Jan 26, 2011, at 12:35 PM, cardemaister wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
No effort is wasted because no effort is used! -MMY commentary.
Effort achieves the goal. - Shiva Sutra
Oh shucks! Which suutra, whose translation? :(
2:2 prayatnah
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wgm4u@... wrote:
Spending two hours concentrating on the eye-focus each day will help our
attention withdraw from the body.
Can this also help to solve the convergence/focus problem with 3D flatscreens?
Could watching 'Avatar' every day for 2
On Jan 26, 2011, at 12:08 PM, wgm4u wrote:
MMY tried to seduce Western Culture (and India) into adopting MMY
Vedic Culture, he didn't come to the West to enlighten Joe Blow
(you)as much as you might like to think.
Glittering prizes
and endless compromises
shatter the illusion of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
On Jan 26, 2011, at 12:35 PM, cardemaister wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
No effort is wasted because no effort is used! -MMY commentary.
Effort achieves the goal. - Shiva
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@...
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@
wrote:
My neighbour has a Rotweiler and what he communicates to me these
days is
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote:
Hey, all
According to Mantreshwar, an ancient jyotish author, my birth chart
has a yoga for being a sanyasi, practicing a form of Buddhism. As a
practicing TM meditator, I was at first puzzled by this observation.
However,
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 5:19 AM, blusc0ut no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote:
Hmm. I've heard rumors from a very reliable source that TM /might/
include
visualization.
It sure seemed to me that Maharishi wanted out
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/01/20/close_encounters_of_the_buddhist_kind
Amazing photos really.
If their goal was to create practicing meditators it
seems they did pretty well. In forty years,
how many million meditators? In a country
Of 67-68 million people. 2 in 'bout 70
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote:
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 5:19 AM, blusc0ut no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@ wrote:
Hmm. I've heard rumors from a very reliable source that TM /might/
-
Subject: Practicing Sahaj Samadhi
thx everyone for the excellent points! I would dispute the existence of
choiceless awareness, or doership without regard to consequences.
Take an Enlightened person who both before and after E. works as a commodities
trader. Is somebody saying that
On 01/26/2011 02:05 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaigLEnglish5@... wrote:
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Peterdrpetersutphen@ wrote:
No effort on this path is every wasted -- Krishna,
*Bhagavad Gita*
No effort is wasted because no effort is used! -MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@... wrote:
And I transcended once whilst standing on my my hands riding a
bicycle, eating candy floss, singing Monty Python's always look on
the bright side of life. And then I hit a bump.
I enter bliss when seeing this
On Jan 26, 2011, at 2:10 PM, blusc0ut wrote:
This is because section 2 of the SS relate to Shaktopaya, which
requires effort. The SS also speaks of Shambhavopaya, which is a
means that utilizes alert passivity or choiceless Awareness.
See SS commentary by Jaideva Singh Forword about
Yesterday the third movie in the series of Swedish author Stieg
Larsson's Millennium Trilogy was released on DVD and Bluray. When I
checked Vudu last night they had it (Vudu is a pay per view). But the
second of the series I watched on Netflix WI in HD when it was
released. Just looking at
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote:
It is a different kind of meditation Vaj. There is never an attempt to
discern the object clearly with TM.
The focus in TM, if you can call it that, is on the movement of the widening
of the container of
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net wrote:
On Jan 26, 2011, at 2:23 PM, Tom Pall wrote:
You might want to scroll down to 7th Advanced Technique here
http://minet.org/mantras.html . As far as being checked, in theory there
are people to check advanced technique
On Jan 26, 2011, at 2:52 PM, Tom Pall wrote:
Rumor has it that this was anywhere between the 4th and 7th
advanced technique. Also an governor who got an advanced technique
told me that one would /have to be a TM teacher/ to get that
technique, leading me to guess that part of the puja
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
On Jan 26, 2011, at 2:52 PM, Tom Pall wrote:
Rumor has it that this was anywhere between the 4th and 7th
advanced technique. Also an governor who got an advanced technique
told me that one would /have to be a TM
yes, odd...I'm still trying to get a straight ans from Vaj as to when, where
and who initiated him into TM. Nothing yet.
http://www.fantasygallery.net/morill/art_0_speaking-to-the-lost-soul.html
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote:
--- In
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote:
Right on! :-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
On Jan 26, 2011, at 10:08 AM, sparaig wrote:
Effort achieves the goal. - Shiva Sutra
Goal? We don't need no stinkin'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
On Jan 26, 2011, at 11:33 AM, sparaig wrote:
BTW, how do you know what I mean by mantra in the first place?
The assumption I was making was that
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
Are you sure you didn't mean the 6th?
Vaj the confusor at work :-)
The goal refers to jivanmukti, or liberation in this
very life.
RoryGoff:
* * * Liberation in this very life is not really a
goal to be achieved with effort as it is conventionally
understood; liberation is if anything more of an a priori
understanding to be surrendered into.
Vaj wrote:
The goal refers to jivanmukti, or liberation in this
very life.
RoryGoff wrote:
* * * Liberation in this very life is not really a
goal to be achieved with effort as it is conventionally
understood; liberation is if anything more of an a priori
understanding to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote:
Right on! :-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
On Jan 26, 2011, at 10:08 AM, sparaig wrote:
Effort
Effort achieves the goal. - Shiva Sutra
sparaig:
Goal? We don't need no stinkin' goal. Buddha
Berra.
if there is no next goal, then there is no sense of
the Self and non-Self envying each other. The envy is
only for the sake of fulfillment, for the sake of
progress, for the sake of
precisely, Ravi!..; otherwise, Neo-Advaitin nonsense.
http://www.fantasygallery.net/wolf/art_4_fdruid.html
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
Yoga is the *isolation* of the Purusha from the
prakriti.
RoryGoff:
* * * Yoga is Union; this *begins* with the isolation of
the Purusha from the Prakriti, and ends in the paradoxical
realization that the two are not different: Absolute and
relarive, stillness and activity,
Rory, you're a Neo-Advaitin flip-flopper. There are 4 choices, if goal is
placed along with the model (goal goes along with effort, sometimes at least)
a. involves a goal with effort
b. doesn't need a goal and is effortless
c. somehow involves both a non-goal and a goal; along with effort and
Om, those upholstered chairs in the front row. Slide 16. Ego? What kind of a
donation might it take to get one of those out front of everyone else?
Buddhists beware, TM dismantled a movement using chairs like those too.
Forewarned is forearmed. Look where TM is now.
-Buck
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