[FairfieldLife] Re: Close Encounters of the Buddhist Kind

2011-01-26 Thread blusc0ut
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 5:19 AM, blusc0ut wrote: > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall wrote: > > > > > Hmm. I've heard rumors from a very reliable source that TM /might/ > > include > > > visualization. > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Close Encounters of the Buddhist Kind

2011-01-26 Thread Buck
> http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/01/20/close_encounters_of_the_buddhist_kind > Amazing photos really. If their goal was to create practicing meditators it seems they did pretty well. In forty years, how many million meditators? In a country Of 67-68 million people. 2 in 'bout 70 p

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Close Encounters of the Buddhist Kind

2011-01-26 Thread Tom Pall
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 5:19 AM, blusc0ut wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall wrote: > > > Hmm. I've heard rumors from a very reliable source that TM /might/ > include > > visualization. > > > > It sure seemed to me that Maharishi wanted out of India on the first > pla

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Buddhism (per Mantreshwar, ancient jyotishi)

2011-01-26 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote: > > Hey, all > > According to Mantreshwar, an ancient jyotish author, my birth chart > has a yoga for being a sanyasi, practicing a form of Buddhism. As a > practicing TM meditator, I was at first puzzled by this observation. > However, a

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dome Numbers

2011-01-26 Thread blusc0ut
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut no_reply@ wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > > > > > My neighbour has a Rotweiler and what he communicates to me these days is infi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Practicing SSRS's Sahaj Samadi versus TM/TMSP

2011-01-26 Thread blusc0ut
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Jan 26, 2011, at 12:35 PM, cardemaister wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > > "No effort is wasted because no effort is used!" -MMY commentary. > > > > > > "Effort achieves the goal." - Shiva Su

Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi was a manipulator.

2011-01-26 Thread Vaj
On Jan 26, 2011, at 12:08 PM, wgm4u wrote: MMY tried to seduce Western Culture (and India) into adopting MMY Vedic Culture, he didn't come to the West to enlighten Joe Blow (you)as much as you might like to think. Glittering prizes and endless compromises shatter the illusion of integrity

[FairfieldLife] Re: Practicing SSRS's Sahaj Samadi versus TM/TMSP

2011-01-26 Thread blusc0ut
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter wrote: > > There is only a non-doer when there "is" a non-doer. When this is the > condition then there is the dharma of non-doing. Prior to this there is a > doer and the dharma associated with a doer. I have to disagree Doc. You cannot DO the non-d

[FairfieldLife] Re: Practicing SSRS's Sahaj Samadi versus TM/TMSP

2011-01-26 Thread blusc0ut
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u" wrote: > > "Spending two hours concentrating on the eye-focus each day will help our > attention withdraw from the body. Can this also help to solve the convergence/focus problem with 3D flatscreens? Could watching 'Avatar' every day for 2 hours

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Practicing SSRS's Sahaj Samadi versus TM/TMSP

2011-01-26 Thread Vaj
On Jan 26, 2011, at 12:35 PM, cardemaister wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > "No effort is wasted because no effort is used!" -MMY commentary. > > "Effort achieves the goal." - Shiva Sutra Oh shucks! Which suutra, whose translation? :( 2:2 prayatnah sādhakah K

[FairfieldLife] Re: Practicing SSRS's Sahaj Samadi versus TM/TMSP

2011-01-26 Thread yifuxero
Re: "...there is the dharma of non-doing". Right, but it takes an "apparent" person to even say that. Doership/non-doership are rolled into one: the Self/non-doer as apparent existence. Nobody (who is anybody) can excape conditional reality as long as they are embodied. The statement "I'm a non-

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dome Numbers

2011-01-26 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > > My neighbour has a Rotweiler and what he communicates to me these days is > > infinately more interesting than your posts. > > > > Interesting. Do you talk with h

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Roger Ebert on why 3D won't work

2011-01-26 Thread Bhairitu
On 01/25/2011 04:16 PM, Tom Pall wrote: > On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Bhairitu wrote: > >> Anyway here is the blog that reported it based on the January 7th >> employment report. Remember "full time jobs" are the operative words. >> There are a lot of people out there making ends meet by wor

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Practicing SSRS's Sahaj Samadi versus TM/TMSP

2011-01-26 Thread Vaj
On Jan 26, 2011, at 12:15 PM, sparaig wrote: > You may just not have been mindful during your practice or you were > not able to discern your object clearly for whatever reason. > If you say so, Vaj. As *I* have noted many times, you appear to never have "gotten" it. You have said that, but

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Roger Ebert on why 3D won't work

2011-01-26 Thread Bhairitu
On 01/26/2011 09:28 AM, authfriend wrote: > Bhairitu, Slate.com has a series of columns on 3D by a > guy named Daniel Engber, the most recent of which is a > rebuttal to Ebert, including Ebert's post with the letter > from Murch. > > Among other points, he says the more 3D movies he watches, > the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Pat Answer Syndrome (was Re: Practicing SSRS's Sahaj Samadi)

2011-01-26 Thread Vaj
On Jan 26, 2011, at 12:13 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Jan 26, 2011, at 11:14 AM, sparaig wrote: > > > > > I put "guru" in quotes when I refer to MMY. I would have loved to > > have met him/studied with him/etc., but I take his teachings at > > f

[FairfieldLife] Re: Practicing SSRS's Sahaj Samadi versus TM/TMSP

2011-01-26 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > "No effort is wasted because no effort is used!" -MMY commentary. > > "Effort achieves the goal." - Shiva Sutra Oh shucks! Which suutra, whose translation? :(

[FairfieldLife] The role of a 'Sat-Guru'

2011-01-26 Thread wgm4u
Isn't just to impart a mantra but actually to act as a guide on the inner planes. Imagine slowly expanding your consciousness and embracing (witnessing) the expanded universe in YOUR consciousness, the Guru is there as a beacon to guide you in this vast endeavor and his radiant form has been cal

[FairfieldLife] Re: Roger Ebert on why 3D won't work

2011-01-26 Thread authfriend
Bhairitu, Slate.com has a series of columns on 3D by a guy named Daniel Engber, the most recent of which is a rebuttal to Ebert, including Ebert's post with the letter from Murch. Among other points, he says the more 3D movies he watches, the fewer problems he has watching them. He speculates that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Practicing SSRS's Sahaj Samadi versus TM/TMSP

2011-01-26 Thread whynotnow7
It is a different kind of meditation Vaj. There is never an attempt to discern the object clearly with TM. The focus in TM, if you can call it that, is on the movement of the widening of the container of consciousness, not on any object within it. The dynamic of consciousness expansion is the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi was a manipulator.

2011-01-26 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u" wrote: > > MMY tried to seduce Western Culture (and India) into adopting MMY Vedic > Culture, he didn't come to the West to enlighten Joe Blow (you)as much as you > might like to think. > > And he made no bones about it, his distaste for Western D

[FairfieldLife] Re: Practicing SSRS's Sahaj Samadi versus TM/TMSP

2011-01-26 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Jan 26, 2011, at 11:33 AM, sparaig wrote: > > > BTW, how do you know what I mean by "mantra" in the first place? > > The assumption I was making was that you were referring to the > practice of TM. > > > Are you sitting in my head,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Practicing SSRS's Sahaj Samadi versus TM/TMSP

2011-01-26 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Jan 26, 2011, at 11:23 AM, sparaig wrote: > > > How do you (or I) know that I thought the mantra 20 minutes ago > > without noticing? > > > > I assume that is how I slipped into the practice, but since I > > didn't notice starting t

[FairfieldLife] Pat Answer Syndrome (was Re: Practicing SSRS's Sahaj Samadi)

2011-01-26 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Jan 26, 2011, at 11:14 AM, sparaig wrote: > > > > > I put "guru" in quotes when I refer to MMY. I would have loved to > > have met him/studied with him/etc., but I take his teachings at > > face value: I don't need direct exposure t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Practicing SSRS's Sahaj Samadi versus TM/TMSP

2011-01-26 Thread wgm4u
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter wrote: > > There is only a non-doer when there "is" a non-doer. When this is the > condition then there is the dharma of non-doing. Prior to this there is a > doer and the dharma associated with a doer. Right on Peter; when you're in a dream acciden

[FairfieldLife] Re: Practicing SSRS's Sahaj Samadi versus TM/TMSP

2011-01-26 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > "Spending two hours concentrating on the eye-focus each day will help our > > > attention withdraw from the body. Generally our sensory currents which > > > give us

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Practicing SSRS's Sahaj Samadi versus TM/TMSP

2011-01-26 Thread Vaj
On Jan 26, 2011, at 11:33 AM, sparaig wrote: BTW, how do you know what I mean by "mantra" in the first place? The assumption I was making was that you were referring to the practice of TM. Are you sitting in my head, evaluating my thinking process, judging how refined or not refined it

[FairfieldLife] Maharishi was a manipulator.

2011-01-26 Thread wgm4u
MMY tried to seduce Western Culture (and India) into adopting MMY Vedic Culture, he didn't come to the West to enlighten Joe Blow (you)as much as you might like to think. And he made no bones about it, his distaste for Western Democracies is well known. To do this he only taught the most simple

[FairfieldLife] Re: Practicing SSRS's Sahaj Samadi versus TM/TMSP

2011-01-26 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter wrote: > > There is only a non-doer when there "is" a non-doer. When > this is the condition then there is the dharma of non-doing. > Prior to this there is a doer and the dharma associated with > a doer. My contention is that there is never a non-do

[FairfieldLife] Re: Practicing SSRS's Sahaj Samadi versus TM/TMSP

2011-01-26 Thread whynotnow7
Right on! :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Jan 26, 2011, at 10:08 AM, sparaig wrote: > > > > "Effort achieves the goal." - Shiva Sutra > > > > > > > Goal? We don't need no stinkin' goal. Buddha Berra. > > > The goal refers to jivanmukti, or liberation in this very

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Practicing SSRS's Sahaj Samadi versus TM/TMSP

2011-01-26 Thread Vaj
On Jan 26, 2011, at 11:23 AM, sparaig wrote: How do you (or I) know that I thought the mantra 20 minutes ago without noticing? I assume that is how I slipped into the practice, but since I didn't notice starting to think the mantra, perhaps I didn't. Sheesh. You're hung up on what *I*

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Practicing SSRS's Sahaj Samadi versus TM/TMSP

2011-01-26 Thread Peter
There is only a non-doer when there "is" a non-doer. When this is the condition then there is the dharma of non-doing. Prior to this there is a doer and the dharma associated with a doer. --- On Wed, 1/26/11, sparaig wrote: > From: sparaig > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Practicing SSRS's Saha

Re: [FairfieldLife] Pat Answer Syndrome (was Re: Practicing SSRS's Sahaj Samadi)

2011-01-26 Thread Vaj
On Jan 26, 2011, at 11:14 AM, sparaig wrote: I put "guru" in quotes when I refer to MMY. I would have loved to have met him/studied with him/etc., but I take his teachings at face value: I don't need direct exposure to a guru (any guru) to gain enlightenment and I trust his judgement con

[FairfieldLife] Pat Answer Syndrome (was Re: Practicing SSRS's Sahaj Samadi)

2011-01-26 Thread whynotnow7
I agree if we want something from the teacher and just can't find a satisfactory answer, it is time to move on. I have always been grateful to Maharishi, even *deified* him for awhile, or maybe became a groupie for a few years would be a better way to put it, but after learning a self sufficient

[FairfieldLife] Re: Practicing SSRS's Sahaj Samadi versus TM/TMSP

2011-01-26 Thread wgm4u
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > "Spending two hours concentrating on the eye-focus each day will help our > > attention withdraw from the body. Generally our sensory currents which give > > us > > sensation of this physical world are spread out through the body. As

[FairfieldLife] Re: Close Encounters of the Buddhist Kind

2011-01-26 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut wrote: > > > > > > > > As the links from the above page don't work, I try a little bit of hacking, > > and yes here: > > http://en.dou.us/view_content.php?s_id=44&page=3 > > > > Blu

[FairfieldLife] Re: Practicing SSRS's Sahaj Samadi versus TM/TMSP

2011-01-26 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.c

[FairfieldLife] Re: Practicing SSRS's Sahaj Samadi versus TM/TMSP

2011-01-26 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoog

[FairfieldLife] Re: Truthful Words for a Psychologist

2011-01-26 Thread WillyTex
> > But basically - ho hum, what else is new? > > Doesn't impact my practice. But why reject > > "the truth" with an appalling blindness > > that flies in the face of the obvious facts. > > Depends upon one's priorities I guess. Some > > people simply want to continue as TB and > > reject ne

[FairfieldLife] Pat Answer Syndrome (was Re: Practicing SSRS's Sahaj Samadi)

2011-01-26 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > BTW, my own take is that one can glean the most subtle aspects > > of Vedic teaching from MMY's most superficial exposition if > > one is subtle enough, and that the most

[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Patrick Gillam

2011-01-26 Thread whynotnow7
Happy Birthday dude! Glad to have you around. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > Today's the day. >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Practicing SSRS's Sahaj Samadi versus TM/TMSP

2011-01-26 Thread wgm4u
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall wrote: > > > > > > "No effort on this path is every wa

[FairfieldLife] Re: Practicing SSRS's Sahaj Samadi versus TM/TMSP

2011-01-26 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > On Jan 26, 2011, at 10:20 AM, sparaig wrote: > > > > > People like to tell me that "intent is 'required" to meditate and > > > therefore there has to be some effort.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Practicing SSRS's Sahaj Samadi versus TM/TMSP

2011-01-26 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > On Jan 26, 2011, at 3:34 AM, sparaig wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall > > > wrote: > > > > > "No effort on this path is every wasted" -- Krishn

[FairfieldLife] Re: Truthful Words for a Psychologist

2011-01-26 Thread WillyTex
> > > Sycophants always turn a blind eye to the truth; > > > not surprising. (even to this day!) > > > > > So, why didn't you speak up? > > yfluxero: > But why reject "the truth" with an appalling blindness > that flies in the face of the obvious facts... > So, "the truth" is just some rumors

[FairfieldLife] Pat Answer Syndrome (was Re: Practicing SSRS's Sahaj Samadi)

2011-01-26 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > BTW, my own take is that one can glean the most subtle aspects > of Vedic teaching from MMY's most superficial exposition if > one is subtle enough, and that the most subtle teachings are > wasted if you aren't. I wouldn't want to claim I'

[FairfieldLife] Re: Practicing SSRS's Sahaj Samadi versus TM/TMSP

2011-01-26 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Jan 26, 2011, at 10:20 AM, sparaig wrote: > > > People like to tell me that "intent is 'required" to meditate and > > therefore there has to be some effort. > > > > MMY said "least effort in the directon of less effort" and my > > o

[FairfieldLife] Pat Answer Syndrome (was Re: Practicing SSRS's Sahaj Samadi)

2011-01-26 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" wrote: > I have been in situations, in person, where people have > questioned Maharishi, and he spent time attempting to answer > the question, and the follow up question, and then the > follow up question. There's one videotape that demonstrat

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Practicing SSRS's Sahaj Samadi versus TM/TMSP

2011-01-26 Thread Vaj
On Jan 26, 2011, at 10:20 AM, sparaig wrote: People like to tell me that "intent is 'required" to meditate and therefore there has to be some effort. MMY said "least effort in the directon of less effort" and my observation is that whatever effort you find yourself using, is more than is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Practicing SSRS's Sahaj Samadi versus TM/TMSP

2011-01-26 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Peter wrote: > > > > > > > > "No effort on this path is every wasted" -- Krishna, > > > > *Bhagavad Gita* > > > > "No effort is wasted

[FairfieldLife] Pat Answer Syndrome (was Re: Practicing SSRS's Sahaj Samadi)

2011-01-26 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Jan 26, 2011, at 10:11 AM, sparaig wrote: > > > Hmmm, changing your tune, Vaj? Or just stirring up controversy. > > > > BTW, my own take is that one can glean the most subtle aspects of > > Vedic teaching from MMY's most superficial e

Re: [FairfieldLife] Pat Answer Syndrome (was Re: Practicing SSRS's Sahaj Samadi)

2011-01-26 Thread Vaj
On Jan 26, 2011, at 10:11 AM, sparaig wrote: Hmmm, changing your tune, Vaj? Or just stirring up controversy. BTW, my own take is that one can glean the most subtle aspects of Vedic teaching from MMY's most superficial exposition if one is subtle enough, and that the most subtle teachings a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Practicing SSRS's Sahaj Samadi versus TM/TMSP

2011-01-26 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Jan 26, 2011, at 10:08 AM, sparaig wrote: > > > > "Effort achieves the goal." - Shiva Sutra > > > > > > > Goal? We don't need no stinkin' goal. Buddha Berra. > > > The goal refers to jivanmukti, or liberation in this very life. > Iro

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Practicing SSRS's Sahaj Samadi versus TM/TMSP

2011-01-26 Thread Vaj
On Jan 26, 2011, at 10:08 AM, sparaig wrote: > "Effort achieves the goal." - Shiva Sutra > Goal? We don't need no stinkin' goal. Buddha Berra. The goal refers to jivanmukti, or liberation in this very life.

[FairfieldLife] Pat Answer Syndrome (was Re: Practicing SSRS's Sahaj Samadi)

2011-01-26 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > That is, the fallout of Maharishi's famous "Every ques- > tion is a perfect opportunity for the answer we have > already prepared." THAT was -- and still is -- the TM > mindset. You ask questions, we give you the "pat answer" > we have alr

[FairfieldLife] Re: Practicing SSRS's Sahaj Samadi versus TM/TMSP

2011-01-26 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall wrote: > > > > "No effort on this path is every wasted" -- Krishna, > > > > *Bhagavad Gita* > > > > "No effort is wasted becau

[FairfieldLife] Re: Practicing SSRS's Sahaj Samadi versus TM/TMSP

2011-01-26 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Peter wrote: > > > > > > > > "No effort on this path is every wasted" -- Krishna, > > > > *Bhagavad Gita* > > > > "No effort is wasted b

[FairfieldLife] Re: Authentic Love*

2011-01-26 Thread blusc0ut
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Champs Ulysses Cabinatan wrote: > > Plastic love gives Yes plastic yes lovegives: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXf8k_5UwWY

[FairfieldLife] Re: Practicing SSRS's Sahaj Samadi versus TM/TMSP

2011-01-26 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Peter wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On M

[FairfieldLife] Pat Answer Syndrome (was Re: Practicing SSRS's Sahaj Samadi)

2011-01-26 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Jan 26, 2011, at 6:47 AM, turquoiseb wrote: > > > In other words, IMO, Pat Answer Syndrome -- present- > > ing theories or partial truths as Truth -- has in > > the long run a deleterious effect. It breeds stasis > > in those who accept

[FairfieldLife] Re: Practicing SSRS's Sahaj Samadi versus TM/TMSP

2011-01-26 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Jan 26, 2011, at 3:34 AM, sparaig wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall > > wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Peter wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 1/24/11, nablus

[FairfieldLife] Re: Authentic Love*

2011-01-26 Thread Buck
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Champs Ulysses Cabinatan wrote: > > Do you believe in life after birth? > Well, hell yes Champs. It's lambing time and I sees it all the time. Life after birth. Don't got to believe it, I knows it. -Buck

Re: [FairfieldLife] Pat Answer Syndrome (was Re: Practicing SSRS's Sahaj Samadi)

2011-01-26 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jan 26, 2011, at 7:24 AM, seventhray1 wrote: > I find this kind of funny, and I think I have mentioned it before, (but I am > rushing this morning), but it seems to me that a student, any student > approaches a teacher with a somewhat open mind. He may engage the teacher > with questions,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Practicing SSRS's Sahaj Samadi versus TM/TMSP

2011-01-26 Thread Vaj
On Jan 26, 2011, at 3:34 AM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Peter wrote: > > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 1/24/11, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > > > > > Maharishi commented something like; even poison can give > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Close Encounters of the Buddhist Kind

2011-01-26 Thread Buck
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut wrote: > > > > As the links from the above page don't work, I try a little bit of hacking, > and yes here: > http://en.dou.us/view_content.php?s_id=44&page=3 > Bluscout, That is one heck of a hack. Great find. Good concise survey in one place

[FairfieldLife] Authentic Love*

2011-01-26 Thread Champs Ulysses Cabinatan
Deceit Lies Heart breaks Pretending to love each other but faux love erodes its luster it fades and wears as time passes Apprehensions Confusions Jealousy Plastic love gives Fancy Pretensions Only tensions and anxiety it brings Don’t hold on it Let it go Don’t cling with it Escape

[FairfieldLife] Pat Answer Syndrome (was Re: Practicing SSRS's Sahaj Samadi)

2011-01-26 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > That is, the fallout of Maharishi's famous "Every ques- > > tion is a perfect opportunity for the answer we have > > already prepared." THAT was -- and still is -- the TM

[FairfieldLife] Happy Birthday Patrick Gillam

2011-01-26 Thread Rick Archer
Today's the day.

[FairfieldLife] MaharSi(?) KaNva(H), brahmac[h]aarin? :D

2011-01-26 Thread cardemaister
>From Michael Coulson's Sanskrit Primer, p. 233: (Legend: > "eliminated" vowel(s) due to sandhi.) 'tatrabhavaan kaNvaH shaashvate brahmaNi vartate, iyaM ca vaH sakhii tasy> aatmaj>>' eti katham etat? (sandhi-vigraha: 'tatrabhavaan kaNvaH shaashvate brahmaNi vartate, iyam; ca vaH sakhii tasya +

Re: [FairfieldLife] Pat Answer Syndrome (was Re: Practicing SSRS's Sahaj Samadi)

2011-01-26 Thread Vaj
On Jan 26, 2011, at 6:47 AM, turquoiseb wrote: In other words, IMO, Pat Answer Syndrome -- present- ing theories or partial truths as Truth -- has in the long run a deleterious effect. It breeds stasis in those who accept the pat answers as Truth, breeds a lack of curiosity as to finding out mo

[FairfieldLife] Pat Answer Syndrome (was Re: Practicing SSRS's Sahaj Samadi)

2011-01-26 Thread blusc0ut
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 9:30 PM

[FairfieldLife] Pat Answer Syndrome (was Re: Practicing SSRS's Sahaj Samadi)

2011-01-26 Thread seventhray1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > That is, the fallout of Maharishi's famous "Every ques- > tion is a perfect opportunity for the answer we have > already prepared." THAT was -- and still is -- the TM > mindset. You ask questions, we give you the "pat answer" > we have

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Practicing SSRS's Sahaj Samadi versus TM/TMSP

2011-01-26 Thread Vaj
On Jan 26, 2011, at 5:05 AM, turquoiseb wrote: There are times when reading FFL is like reading a forum on which most people's education stopped at the sixth grade. This is one of those times. Just because you were told something 'way back when doesn't make it true. I find it mind-boggling th

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dome Numbers

2011-01-26 Thread blusc0ut
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > Fine with me. I am not speaking about a big group hug where we all try to get > along. What I am going for has *almost* nothing to do with that. Why almost? And why did you write: 'I want to clarify that the group I was implying is t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Close Encounters of the Buddhist Kind

2011-01-26 Thread merudanda
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@ wrote: > > > Hmm. I've heard rumors from a very reliable source that TM /might/ include > > visualization. > > > > It sure seemed to me that Maharishi wanted out of India o

[FairfieldLife] Pat Answer Syndrome (was Re: Practicing SSRS's Sahaj Samadi)

2011-01-26 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Peter wrote: > > > > > > > > > > "No effort on this path is every waste

[FairfieldLife] Re: Close Encounters of the Buddhist Kind

2011-01-26 Thread blusc0ut
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall wrote: > Hmm. I've heard rumors from a very reliable source that TM /might/ include > visualization. > > It sure seemed to me that Maharishi wanted out of India on the first plane > to Hawaii. You are making fun, right? Now, let's visualise a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Practicing SSRS's Sahaj Samadi versus TM/TMSP

2011-01-26 Thread blusc0ut
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Peter wrote: > > > > > > > > "No effort on this path is every wasted" -- Krishna, > > > > *Bhagavad Gita* > > > > "No effort is wasted

[FairfieldLife] Re: Practicing SSRS's Sahaj Samadi versus TM/TMSP

2011-01-26 Thread blusc0ut
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall wrote: > > > > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Peter wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 1/24/11, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Maharishi commented somethin

[FairfieldLife] Re: Practicing SSRS's Sahaj Samadi versus TM/TMSP

2011-01-26 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Peter wrote: > > > > > > "No effort on this path is every wasted" -- Krishna, > > > *Bhagavad Gita* > > "No effort is wasted because no effort is used!" -MMY commentary. There are times when reading F

[FairfieldLife] Re: Practicing SSRS's Sahaj Samadi versus TM/TMSP

2011-01-26 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Peter wrote: > > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 1/24/11, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > > > > > Maharishi commented something like; even poison can give > > > enlightenment. > > > > > > But added; don't try th

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