[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: I guess if you're going to look at God as a personal deity then your blog

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-21 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sometimes when I would attend or lead advanced lectures or even intros I would refer to transcending as sitting in the hand of God. The transcendent is so sweet that when we surrender to the transcendent it is

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-21 Thread lurkernomore20002000
Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sometimes when I would attend or lead advanced lectures or even intros I would refer to transcending as sitting in the hand of God. The transcendent is so sweet that when we surrender to the transcendent it is like that being suspended in space and

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-20 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess if you're going to look at God as a personal deity then your blog makes some sense. But you're forgetting that MMY and the Shankara tradition taught God as the impersonal. If you accept that laws of nature

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-20 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: I guess if you're going to look at God as a personal deity then your blog makes some sense. But you're forgetting that MMY and the Shankara tradition

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-20 Thread Richard J. Williams
Consciousness as Unified Field... TurquoiseB wrote: I have *no problem* with an underlying unity to the universe that works like an operating system. Then you probably wouldn't have a *problem* with the notion of a 'programmer' who writes the operating system, since something cannot come

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-20 Thread Louis McKenzie
Sometimes when I would attend or lead advanced lectures or even intros I would refer to transcending as sitting in the hand of God. The transcendent is so sweet that when we surrender to the transcendent it is like that being suspended in space and totally safe in the hand of God. Hugo [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Even when God *Himself* steps in and preaches a few sermons in the form of hurricanes, floods, earthquakes, typhoons, plagues, famines and the like, no one seems to pay attention. They keep acting the way they act.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread Louis McKenzie
Maybe God is a Democrat authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: Even when God *Himself* steps in and preaches a few sermons in the form of hurricanes, floods, earthquakes, typhoons, plagues, famines and the like, no one seems to pay

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread curtisdeltablues
His father had promised him a car for his birthday. Dad was nowhere in sight. His mother gave him 5.00$, yet what he had received was a grace from God that on his birthday the sun and the birds awakened him, the sweet smells of the divine filled the air and he knew without a doubt that there

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread Richard J. Williams
Curtis wrote: So following this weather based theology we can assume that God absolutely hates China and dropped a huge earthquake on it's ass and despises Burma and sent them a nasty cyclone? As a TM teacher, you should be able to define 'God' and 'enlightenment', otherwise you're

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: His father had promised him a car for his birthday. Dad was nowhere in sight. His mother gave him 5.00$, yet what he had received was a grace from God that on his birthday the sun and the birds awakened

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: So following this weather based theology we can assume that God absolutely hates China and dropped a huge earthquake on it's ass

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Curtis wrote: So following this weather based theology we can assume that God absolutely hates China and dropped a huge earthquake on it's ass and despises Burma and sent them a nasty cyclone? What

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread curtisdeltablues
That one is topical. Pick from the list in the middle, I think he has a pretty damn good hit rate. I had never seen them,thanks for the hook up! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: ---

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That one is topical. Pick from the list in the middle, I think he has a pretty damn good hit rate. I had never seen them,thanks for the hook up! The one called 'Wishing Well' is my fave, had me in tears.

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: His father had promised him a car for his birthday. Dad was nowhere in sight. His mother gave him 5.00$, yet what he had received was a grace from God that on his birthday the sun and the birds awakened

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: So following this weather based theology we can assume that God

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread Louis McKenzie
I guess it is simply called appreciation. curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: His father had promised him a car for his birthday. Dad was nowhere in sight. His mother gave him 5.00$, yet what he had received was a grace from God that on his birthday the sun and the birds awakened

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread Richard J. Williams
So following this weather based theology we can assume that God absolutely hates China and dropped a huge earthquake on it's ass and despises Burma and sent them a nasty cyclone? Absolutely. He wasn't too keen on New Orleans, either. Except for the French

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread curtisdeltablues
I think we as humans like to look for patterns and extrapolate our intelligence onto nature. Agreed. Whether we do it through a belief in God or in science, the motive is the same, and either belief remains full of holes when viewed superficially. Here I disagree. Science is not a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread Louis McKenzie
What does one thing have to do with the other? As a TM teacher one would not be talking about this in this way. The planet is in big trouble because of man's free will. We do not even know if earth quakes can be caused intentionally. I do not believe that God would ever cause suffering.

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread curtisdeltablues
So, you can't define 'enlightenment' or 'God'. What are you talking about? You have me confused with another poster Richard. I could give you many different versions of either belief from some of the various sources who hold such beliefs. What does that have to do with anything? That's

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: His father had promised him a car for his birthday. Dad was nowhere in sight. His mother gave him 5.00$, yet what he had

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread Louis McKenzie
I always think of God as the visible and invisible. I think of God as Pure Consciousness or Divine Intelligence. Which for me means that the intelligence which determines the sky, the clouds, the earth, the planets, that which keeps all of this functioning to me that is what I call God.

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What does one thing have to do with the other? As a TM teacher one would not be talking about this in this way. The planet is in big trouble because of man's free will. We do not even know if earth quakes can be

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread Richard J. Williams
So, you can't define 'enlightenment' or 'God'. I could give you many different versions of either belief from some of the various sources who hold such beliefs. So, why not do so? Instead of making fun of poor religious people, victims of an earthquake and a cyclone? Why is it that

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread Richard J. Williams
As a TM teacher, you should be able to define 'God' and 'enlightenment', Curtis wrote: Why does it always have to do with sex with you Richard? Non sequitur. So, you can't define 'enlightenment' or 'God'. That's nothing to be ashamed of Curtis, so why not just admit it, instead of

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread Richard J. Williams
Curtis wrote: I do believe that people create their own Karma. [snip] Oh, come on, Curtis, you can do better than this. What the hell is 'karma' - you TM teachers are so full of yourselves that it's pathetic. And to think that you once took philosophy courses at MUM. For what purpose? How

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, you can't define 'enlightenment' or 'God'. I could give you many different versions of either belief from some of the various sources who hold such beliefs. So, why not do so? Instead of

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread Richard J. Williams
Curtis wrote: I'll bet you are as aware as I am of nature's dark side. How much would you be willing to wager? So, now you're saying that 'God' is a black Mother - nature's 'dark side'? Does that make any sense? 'God' is 'dark nature', and a 'wuss'. I thought a 'wuss' was always female,

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Curtis wrote: I do believe that people create their own Karma. [snip] Oh, come on, Curtis, you can do better than this. What the hell is 'karma' - you TM teachers are so full of yourselves that it's

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread Richard J. Williams
Why is it that you TM teachers are so ignorant and crass? Curtis wrote: As far as your trying to get me to give you one of the many versions of the God idea, my answer is crack a book. So, you're a wuss. I thought so - all hat and no cattle. [snip] I am ignorant about many things

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread Richard J. Williams
What the hell is 'karma' - you TM teachers are so full of yourselves that it's pathetic. That is a misquote. You are having trouble keeping people straight in this thread Richard. Let me smell that cup you are drinking from... So, you believe people create their own 'karma', but

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What the hell is 'karma' - you TM teachers are so full of yourselves that it's pathetic. That is a misquote. You are having trouble keeping people straight in this thread Richard. Let me smell

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread curtisdeltablues
I am with you on appreciating nature Louis. I'll bet you are as aware as I am of nature's dark side. But since I'm having a charmed life by the luck of the draw I am inclined to agree with another great guy named Louis: http://youtube.com/watch?v=vnRqYMTpXHc My lack of belief in a deity is not

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread curtisdeltablues
Snip I thought a 'wuss' was always female, but I didn't know that you didn't like black, older women. What's up with that? Black older women are adorable, especially this one: http://youtube.com/watch?v=Tm5-WdB_aVEfeature=related Make sure you get to her doing Freight Train at the end

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 sandiego108@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: His father had promised him a car for his birthday. Dad was

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: I don't think the motive is the same, opposite in fact. I sum it up as; Religion claims to explain reality whereas science is an *attempt* to

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think we as humans like to look for patterns and extrapolate our intelligence onto nature. Agreed. Whether we do it through a belief in God or in science, the motive is the same, and either belief

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread Louis McKenzie
curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am with you on appreciating nature Louis. I'll bet you are as aware as I am of nature's dark side. But since I'm having a charmed life by the luck of the draw I am inclined to agree with another great guy named Louis:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread Louis McKenzie
Remember a great man once said the government reflect the consciousness of the people. I have seen how that part of my mentality that is BUSHIAN has made as much of a mess of my own life as George Has made of the world. I believe in Kicking ass. I believe in full force attacks. If

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread Louis McKenzie
God is the intelligence that makes the banana and the banana peel. Yet religion in essence as in the spirit of or people in is also God. Yet Religion in the action of controlling, of limiting, of closing the vision may be the result of genetic engineering to make blue and pink banana

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread Louis McKenzie
that is really neat I like old Black Ladies curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought a 'wuss' was always female, but I didn't know that you didn't like black, older women. What's up with that? Black older women are adorable, especially this one:

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread Marek Reavis
Wow, thanks, Curtis, I'd never heard of Elizabeth Cotten before; she's wonderful -- everything about her. Still alive? ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Snip I thought a 'wuss' was always female, but I didn't know that you didn't like

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess if you're going to look at God as a personal deity then your blog makes some sense. But you're forgetting that MMY and the Shankara tradition taught God as the impersonal. I always got a charge out of

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess if you're going to look at God as a personal deity then your blog (than your post?) makes some sense. But you're forgetting that MMY and the Shankara tradition taught God as the impersonal. Exactly. MMY did

[FairfieldLife] Re: God is a wuss

2008-05-19 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Remember a great man once said the government reflect the consciousness of the people. I have seen how that part of my mentality that is BUSHIAN has made as much of a mess of my own life as George Has made of the