Re: Digital camera

2003-04-07 Thread Alan Miller
Jon Glass wrote: Personally, while I still prefer chemical for serious stuff, I find myself wishing I had a good digital camera. I haven't bought one yet, because I can't afford the quality I want. :-) So, I keep shooting chemical, being careful on what I shoot (because of the cost

Re: Digital camera... or not

2003-04-06 Thread Dan Knight
On 3/31/03 3:57 PM, bramke posted: I want to introduce myself into the world of digital photos, mainly family snapshots for screen and webuse I have a 8600/G3 with all PCIslots filled, and no USB available, and a Powerbook G3 Kanga (not cardbus compliant) snip So what are my options ???

Re: Digital camera

2003-04-06 Thread Dan Knight
On 3/31/03 5:54 PM, Ryan Coleman posted: I disagree. I work in a photolab and to get the kind of shots that are reprintable to the size needed to match 35mm would cost you between $3500 and $7500 right now. Stick with film, maybe get a SCSI negative scanner if you need it. But don't go

Re: Digital camera

2003-04-06 Thread Thomas Ethen
The Minolta Dimage Scan Dual III got good reviews in MacWorld this month, but I still like my Nikon 4000ED which has twice the resolution of the Minolta. Tom on 4/6/03 12:34 PM, Ryan Coleman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 1:08 PM -0400 4/6/03, Nick wrote: Minolta Dimage Scan Dual III --

Re: Digital Camera ...

2003-04-01 Thread Derrick Dodson
The other option one might have is one I have become fond of. During baseball season I can shoot anywhere from 10-20 rolls of film per day. I am using these shots for baseball cards, magazines and 8x's that I am having signed. Digital is fine for the cards but for prints digital is not

Re: Digital camera...or not

2003-04-01 Thread bramke
Well, thank you all for the great number of replies (already 3 digest went through before I can answer) Seems like going with the compactflash adaptor and a digital camera that uses these cards is, in my case, the best way because : * cheaper than a cardreader, if I can find a SCSI-one at all

Digital camera... or not

2003-03-31 Thread bramke
Hello all, I want to introduce myself into the world of digital photos, mainly family snapshots for screen and webuse, but I have run into some problems. I need a way to get the digital pictures from the camera to the Mac, and this is where it seems to go wrong. I have a 8600/G3 with all

Re: Digital camera... or not

2003-03-31 Thread Kevin Stevens
I have a 8600/G3 with all PCIslots filled, and no USB available, and a Powerbook G3 Kanga (not cardbus compliant), and about all recent digital cameras talk USB... Does the G3 have FireWire available? There are FireWire readers for most common media types, slightly more expensive than USB

Re: Digital camera... or not

2003-03-31 Thread Alan Miller
bramke wrote: I would like some real world experience and hands-on knowledge. Does anybody use this route with digital cameras ?? My real world use of digital cameras is for listing eBay stuff and web photos. For any quality. film's the way. I have an older olympus D320L 1.3 mega pixel

Re: Digital camera... or not

2003-03-31 Thread Pauline Turtle-Bear Guillermo
On Monday, March 31, 2003, at 12:57 PM, bramke wrote: For completeness : 8600/G3-450/928MBram/PCIvideo/PCIsound/PCI-IDE cards What's the sound card for? My setup: 8600/G3 400/bunch o RAM/PCI video card/PCI-IDE card/PCI USB card I have an older digital camera that was serial connection only

Re: Digital camera

2003-03-31 Thread Ed Zelinsky
Is there such a thing as a USB to ADB connector? I use a Nikon coolpix 800 and download using a cardreader connected to the USB port on my Pismo- it's really fast! I have never used a camera so much with such creative latitude (I manipulate the images in Photoshop 6.0) in my life. I think that

Re: Digital camera

2003-03-31 Thread Alan Miller
Ed Zelinsky wrote: I think that film ($$$) and not knowing how things were looking But I spent years studying how things would look.. -- Alan Miller Underwater Photographer http://home.earthlink.net/~uwphoto/ 9600/233 w/ G3/400 XLR8 ZIF, 1.5 G RAM eBay ID uwphotoer Live each day like it

Re: Digital camera

2003-03-31 Thread Alan Miller
Ed Zelinsky wrote: on 3/31/03 3:58 PM, Alan Miller at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ed Zelinsky wrote: I think that film ($$$) and not knowing how things were looking But I spent years studying how things would look.. I did not mean to disparage film... Just a very personal reaction

Re: Digital camera

2003-03-31 Thread Alan Miller
Ryan Coleman wrote: I disagree. -- Original Message --- From: Ed Zelinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have never used a camera so much with such creative latitude (I manipulate the images in Photoshop 6.0) in my life. I think that film ($$$) and not knowing how things were

Re: Digital camera... or not

2003-03-31 Thread Mark Kippert
bramke on 3/31/03 2:57 PM wrote: The only option I can come up with is the use of a PCMCIA adaptor for CompactFlash cards (or other memory cards) but I have some questions with this : * Pro/con of this route ?? * Is this possible in the 16bit PCMCIA slots of the Kanga ?? * Do I need special

Re: Digital camera

2003-03-31 Thread Bruce Johnson
Ed Zelinsky wrote: Is there such a thing as a USB to ADB connector? No. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog

Re: Digital Camera ...

2003-03-31 Thread Tobias Strohe
The PC Card Adapters work great, Cardbus or not (I have used mine - Smart Media - on Kanga and Powerbook 5300c). I would buy a snapshot Digital Camera using the following criteria: 1) 2 or 3 Megapixel (good enough for the occasional 8.5x11 print for friends/family and definitely all

Re: Digital camera... or not

2003-03-31 Thread Christopher D Helmkamp
too valuable these days to go without, especially if digital camera use is a priority for you. --Chris iBook 700 OS X.2.4 PM 7500/200 OS 9.1 PM 4400/200 OS 8.6, NetBSD -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished

Re: Digital camera... or not

2003-03-31 Thread Clark Martin
it up but it did inhibit me from taking as many pictures as I might have. That is one thing, I am taking about four times as many pictures with the digital camera as with the film SLR. In many cases I take second and third shots with the digital camera that I wouldn't take with the film

Re: Digital camera

2003-03-31 Thread Bruce Johnson
. But the liberating feeling that Ed is talking about comes from the fact that I can take 100 pictures with my digital camera, see the results *immediately* and toss the ones I don't want, and not worry about paying for developing 4 or 5 rolls of film, truding off to Walgreens to drop them off

Re: Digital camera... or not

2003-03-31 Thread Bruce Johnson
Mark Kippert wrote: bramke on 3/31/03 2:57 PM wrote: The only option I can come up with is the use of a PCMCIA adaptor for CompactFlash cards (or other memory cards) but I have some questions with this : * Pro/con of this route ?? * Is this possible in the 16bit PCMCIA slots of the Kanga ?? *

Re: Digital camera (oops, I went OT)

2003-03-31 Thread Ryan Coleman
those places and even make a deal on developing your film all the way here in Minneapolis. -- Original Message --- From: Bruce Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (G-Books) Sent: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 16:21:44 -0700 Subject: Re: Digital camera Ryan Coleman wrote: I

Re: Digital camera (oops, I went OT)

2003-03-31 Thread Jeremy Derr
On Monday, March 31, 2003, at 05:54 PM, Ryan Coleman wrote: I will say this here once: Never EVER take your film to Walgreens. For those of you (or Proex or Walmart) here who want to see better results, contact me off list and I will give you the information of the lab I work in. I can

Re: Digital camera (oops, I went OT)

2003-03-31 Thread James Rohde
On 03/31/2003, Ryan Coleman wrote: I will say this here once: Never EVER take your film to Walgreens. For those of you (or Proex or Walmart) here who want to see better results, contact me off list and I will give you the information of the lab I work in. I can give you reasons upon reasons of

Re: Digital camera

2003-03-31 Thread Eric D.
From: Ed Zelinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (G-Books) Sent: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 15:51:32 -0500 Subject: Re: Digital camera Is there such a thing as a USB to ADB connector? USB _to_ ADB. No. ADB _to_ USB. Yes, and the most popular (and exceptionally well supported I might add

Re: Digital camera

2003-03-31 Thread Jeremy Derr
On Monday, March 31, 2003, at 08:05 PM, Eric D. wrote: That said, there is one exception to the USB-ADB thingy and I think that applies to some mice but that would be a three-way adaptor. USB-PS2-ADB. mice that support the usb-PS2 thingy actually have the circuitry for both USB and PS2

Re: Digital camera

2003-03-31 Thread Ruby Appling
RE; yes, griffen made one and it did work,but it gave me so many other system problems I returned it,this was at the time the first mac came with usb,a hockey puck and a tiny keyboard for my huge hands LOL,I think it was called I-mate On Monday, March 31, 2003, at 06:02 PM, Bruce Johnson

Re: Digital camera

2003-03-31 Thread Ruby Appling
RE; My opinion, I did not repeat entire message, Anyway, I love my 2meg digital camera,I knew little of photography,however, the ability to shoot vast numbers of pictures and then printout only the two or three without blemishes has just made a world of difference in useing a camera,otherwise

Re: wallstreet and digital camera, CF card OK, smartmedia is not

2002-12-13 Thread Andrew
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 22:11:43 -0500 Subject: Wallstreet vs Canon PowerShot camera Help From: Norm Kamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] What I think they are saying is I cannot use my PDQ with their camera, since it does not have a built-in USB interface. I do have a USB PC card installed and it works with

Re: wallstreet and digital camera, CF card OK, smartmedia is not

2002-12-13 Thread Clark Martin
At 1:05 PM -0600 12/13/2002, Andrew wrote: I would caution against putting a Smart media card into the PC card slot. Unlike compact flash cards smart media cards don't have any on-board electronics and can be corrupted by being read in a MAC card slot. I've had no problem reading SmartMedia

Re: wallstreet and digital camera, CF card OK, smartmedia is not

2002-12-13 Thread Bruce Johnson
Clark Martin wrote: At 1:05 PM -0600 12/13/2002, Andrew wrote: I would caution against putting a Smart media card into the PC card slot. Unlike compact flash cards smart media cards don't have any on-board electronics and can be corrupted by being read in a MAC card slot. I've had no

Re: wallstreet and digital camera, CF card OK, smartmedia is not

2002-12-13 Thread Clark Martin
At 1:58 PM -0700 12/13/2002, Bruce Johnson wrote: Clark Martin wrote: At 1:05 PM -0600 12/13/2002, Andrew wrote: I would caution against putting a Smart media card into the PC card slot. Unlike compact flash cards smart media cards don't have any on-board electronics and can be corrupted by

Re: Good, inexpensive digital camera/Lag time

2002-04-22 Thread Eugene Lee
On Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 02:02:56PM -1000, Aron Nelson wrote: : : Do you have one that doesn't have any lag after shooting? The Nikon D1X can do 9 shots in 3 seconds. The Nikon D1H is even faster. -- Eugene Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

Good, inexpensive digital camera

2002-04-21 Thread William Metcalfe
This web site answers many of the questions about permanence of color in photographic paper and, I believe, in ink jet inks. http://www.wilhelm-research.com/ --- Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 16:00:57 -0500 Subject: Re: Good, inexpensive digital camera From: Thomas Ethen

Re: Good, inexpensive digital camera/Lag time

2002-04-20 Thread Walter R Basil
On 4/20/02 4:21 PM, (G-Books) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apparently most/all Digital cameras have lag time after the shot. I have tried many at CompUSA and Circuit City and they all had lag after shooting. The lag times are even parts of the review process on web sites now. Do you have

Re: Good, inexpensive digital camera/Lag time

2002-04-20 Thread Bruce Johnson
Walter R Basil wrote: Of course I normally shoot at the lowest quality setting for easy transmittal over email to family., so that has an effect I am sure. When I bump up the quality..there is more lag as it writes it to the CF I am sure. Yeah, I just tested this with my Epson (PhotoPC 650)

Re: long term data storage (was digital camera)

2002-04-20 Thread Thomas Ethen
Then you will have the best of both worlds! The archival property of film and the convenience of digital. I scan my negatives and store them on CD for distribution to others and will scan prints for some uses, but you have much more control over digital print quality when scanning from the

Good, inexpensive digital camera

2002-04-19 Thread Clyde Kahrl
on my 2400 * 2400 dpi HP scanner, I am not even close to seeing any grain in the film. And Fuji 800 is a much faster film than any digital camera--with regard to any specific contrast and resolution standard. A scan of a 35mm negative at 2400dpisq (a real 2400 not virtual 2400) creates

Re: Good, inexpensive digital camera

2002-04-19 Thread Thomas Ethen
These are not inexpensive digital cameras that we are talking about now! An inexpensive 35mm film camera (less that $100) will outshoot any inexpensive digital camera (less than $300) out there when it comes to photographic sharpness. Having used the D1X (5.33 Megapixel) and an EOS-1D (4.06

Re: Good, inexpensive digital camera

2002-04-19 Thread patrick fisher
I find film to be one of the largest nuisances of the 20th and 21st centuries. It's a pain to use film and film companies have nothing but themselves to blame for not making developing easier. They should have contrived some contraption to take your film (easy-load, which finally has made an

Re: Good, inexpensive digital camera

2002-04-19 Thread Bruce Johnson
Thomas Ethen wrote: These are not inexpensive digital cameras that we are talking about now! An inexpensive 35mm film camera (less that $100) will outshoot any inexpensive digital camera (less than $300) out there when it comes to photographic sharpness. Having used the D1X (5.33 Megapixel

Re: Good, inexpensive digital camera

2002-04-19 Thread Thomas Ethen
Don't forget the archival quality of film over digital! Tom I do love film, much richer colors and depth, but it is too expensive, in the long run, and just one huge hassle. In this case, I will take convenience and price over quality and hassle. Unfortunately. However I lament. P- --

Re: Good, inexpensive digital camera

2002-04-19 Thread Thomas Ethen
Actually I love both digital and film and use both on a daily basis! I am still unsure as to what will be done for storage when the digital camera catches up with film, since the files will be incredibly large. Tom I'd guess that digital cameras are still 3-5 years from surpassing film

Re: Good, inexpensive digital camera

2002-04-19 Thread Bruce Johnson
Thomas Ethen wrote: Actually I love both digital and film and use both on a daily basis! I am still unsure as to what will be done for storage when the digital camera catches up with film, since the files will be incredibly large. Tom Austin PowersPsychedelic Holocubes, baybee!/ap Seriously

Re: Good, inexpensive digital camera

2002-04-19 Thread Aron Nelson
Of all the good points you brought up, this one is the killer for me. I was TOTALLY into my digital camera until I recently went to a party and I wanted to take pictures FAST. NO WAY! I got one shot off and had to wait while the damn thing took its time getting ready for the next shot

Re: Good, inexpensive digital camera

2002-04-19 Thread Dick Grable
box. I will agree that a digital camera has some quirks but overall is a nice replacement for the home film camera. I was TOTALLY into my digital camera until I recently went to a party and I wanted to take pictures FAST. NO WAY! I got one shot off and had to wait while the damn thing took its

Re: Good, inexpensive digital camera/Lag time

2002-04-19 Thread Aron Nelson
That is not a basic problem of digital cameras. That is a basic problem of the model you have. Apparently most/all Digital cameras have lag time after the shot. I have tried many at CompUSA and Circuit City and they all had lag after shooting. The lag times are even parts of the review

Re: Good, inexpensive digital camera

2002-04-19 Thread Gene Merritt
Speaking of expensive (:--)), has anyone tried, or seen (in person) the new Sony DSC-F707? It received some good reviews (speed-wise) on the dpreview.com site. I have a house full of old 35mm Nikons from my old news photog days. Now have a disability and am researching a move to digital. Want

Re: Good, inexpensive digital camera

2002-04-19 Thread Thomas Ethen
Hang on to that shoe box of prints and negatives, since they will still be usable when the digital prints are long gone. My film camera shoots 5 frames per second, but its biggest plus compared to digital is that it turns on instantly for photo's that show up unexpectedly, unlike all digital

Re: Good, inexpensive digital camera/Lag time

2002-04-19 Thread Thomas Ethen
Most digital cameras have a continuous shoot mode which allows you to shoot a number of shots fairly quickly (until your buffer runs out) and then they usually take around 7 to 10 seconds to recover and be able to do this again. The smaller the file size the more shots that can be taken in rapid

Re: Good, inexpensive digital camera

2002-04-19 Thread Vic Viet Duong
Sony offers the DSC-S75, a 4 MP camera with a black body. It's pretty slick. Almost got one myself, but opted for the Canon s110 Elf. I love how small the camera is, and take it with me everywhere. All of Sony's camera are great. The biggest advantages of the designs come from their experiences

Re: Good, inexpensive digital camera

2002-04-19 Thread Thomas Ethen
Kodak offers a photo CD with every roll of film you have processed by them if you want it. Tom My wedding photo was shot digitally and was shared among all our guests instantly across the country over the net. Then we mailed each guest a CD of the full 500+ images of our wedding for 33 cents

Re: Good, inexpensive digital camera

2002-04-19 Thread RLMcKee
In a message dated 4/20/02 12:29:41 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kodak offers a photo CD with every roll of film you have processed by them if you want it. I hope Kodak has upgraded that service in the last year or so... I had clients bring me their disk from Kodak expecting the scans to

Re: Good, inexpensive digital camera/Lag time

2002-04-19 Thread aron nelson
Most digital cameras have a continuous shoot mode which allows you to shoot a number of shots fairly quickly (until your buffer runs out) Right, I have this, but this is a compromise. Anyway, back to Powerbooks! Aron --

Re: Good, inexpensive digital camera

2002-04-19 Thread Thomas Ethen
On to another topic! Would I be better off using a remote FireWire HD or using the one in my Pismo/400 for digital capture? If a remote, should I use the FireWire port or a PC Card adapter for FireWire for the fastest transfer? Tom -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

Re: Good, inexpensive digital camera

2002-04-18 Thread John McKee
://www.dpreview.com Again, thank you for an enjoyable site. With respect John McKee Jeff Lentz wrote: I also highly recommend www.dpreview.com (no association with me whatsoever). It's a very comprehensive site for digital camera information. - Jeff Lentz Jeff Lentz wrote: I

Re: Good, inexpensive digital camera

2002-04-17 Thread Thomas Ethen
Also, use the paper made my the manufacturer of your printer to get the best results from your setup. Tom The trick to getting really good photos is to use photo-quality paper. I have an Epson Stylus 650 (originally $79, got it free in a bundle), but I use genuine Epson glossy photo paper

Re: Good, inexpensive digital camera

2002-04-15 Thread Gene Merritt
On Sunday, April 14, 2002 10:39 PM, Luca Rescigno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- I'm looking to get a digital camera, but I'm not sure what's good considering how many different models are out there. I'm willing to spend no more than $300, so what could I get in that price range that would

Re: Good, inexpensive digital camera

2002-04-15 Thread lee
-- I'm looking to get a digital camera, but I'm not sure what's good considering how many different models are out there. I'm willing to spend no more than $300, so what could I get in that price range that would work with FireWire (I have a Wallstreet 233 with a FireWire cardbus)? I'm not sure

Re: Good, inexpensive digital camera

2002-04-15 Thread Philip
. Like another poster said, FireWire still cams are a rarity and is usually reserved for digital video cams. However you can get a FireWire digital video cam with the ability to take still photos. Have fun, Philip -- I'm looking to get a digital camera, but I'm not sure what's good considering

Re: Good, inexpensive digital camera

2002-04-15 Thread Ed Zelinsky
Luca, I love my Coolpix 800 and there are some refurbished models left at www.abesofmaine.com--they come with a 90 day warentee and cost around $230- It is a 2.11 megapixel camera and that is a pretty good size. Also, check out www.dpreview.com- it is a great digital camera review site! Ed

Re: Good, inexpensive digital camera

2002-04-15 Thread Laurent Daudelin
On 15/04/02 11:22, patrick fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am on my third digital camera. It is a Fuji 4700 and I absolutely love it. It has a lot of great, fine features. They have it at computergeeks for $339 and it is USB, though. And it has an optical zoom. Very sweet camera

Re: Good, inexpensive digital camera

2002-04-15 Thread patrick fisher
Good point. I wonder what the answer is to that. They should be cheaper. Maybe it is the CCD that costs so much. Still, I don't think they should cost as much as they do. On the other hand, prices are plummeting year by year. I don't know, maybe I'm not getting it, but still, you would

Re: Good, inexpensive digital camera

2002-04-15 Thread Brian McLeod
on 4/15/02 11:22 AM, patrick fisher at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am on my third digital camera. It is a Fuji 4700 and I absolutely love it. I have the Fuji 2600 and I also love it. GREAT 2.1 megapixel photo quality, 3x optical zoom, 16 meg card, rechargeable batteries AND charger all

Re: Good, inexpensive digital camera

2002-04-15 Thread George Gunderson
On Monday, April 15, 2002, at 09:54 , lee wrote: -- I'm looking to get a digital camera, but I'm not sure what's good considering how many different models are out there. I'm willing to spend no more than $300, so what could I get in that price range that would work with FireWire (I have

Re: Good, inexpensive digital camera

2002-04-15 Thread Bruce Johnson
Laurent Daudelin wrote: When I see the ongoing prices for digital cameras, it strikes me that something is still wrong. To get a good camera, not even matching a good SLR, you will pay the price that you would pay for an advanced-amateur/pro SLR. $1000 will almost get you the Minolta Maxxum

Re: Good, inexpensive digital camera

2002-04-15 Thread Vic Viet Duong
Since we are on the subject of Olympus cameras, I've found this on www.macdeals.com The D-360 and 370 are excellent budget cameras... Olympus D-370L 1.3M digicam for $95 after coupon  11:49 am OfficeMax.com and OfficeMax retail stores offer the Olympus D-370L 1.3-megapixel digital camera

Re: Good, inexpensive digital camera

2002-04-15 Thread patrick fisher
1.3 Megapixels, I feel, is not good enough for average photograhy. For web stuff, fine. 2.1 is kind of a minimum, I feel, to decent photography. Still, I should get this camera for my daughter. P Vic Viet Duong wrote: Since we are on the subject of Olympus cameras, I've found this on

Re: Good, inexpensive digital camera

2002-04-15 Thread Aron Nelson
1.3 Megapixels, I feel, is not good enough for average photograhy. For web stuff, fine. 2.1 is kind of a minimum, I feel, to decent photography. The weird part is that I have seen 1.3 megapixel pictures printed out that are great. I wonder how they do that?? I have a 2 megapixel camera and

Re: Good, inexpensive digital camera

2002-04-15 Thread Vic Viet Duong
My first digital camera was the old Apple QuickTake 7 years ago. The resolution was 600x800, not even 1 megapixel. I was able to use it to print fairly large architectural pictures of my models in college. As Bruce mentioned, it's the optics, AND it's the skills of the user that determines good

Re: Good, inexpensive digital camera

2002-04-15 Thread Joseph Ferrare
Thought I'd throw my two cents in as I just went through buying a new camera. I settled on the 2.1 megapixel Canon A40, which I found online for $258 (though with $20 shipping). I was a journalist just long enough to know optics are important, and so I went with the Canon. It's an actual

Re: Good, inexpensive digital camera

2002-04-15 Thread Walter R Basil
On 4/15/02 6:43 PM, (G-Books) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking to get a digital camera, but I'm not sure what's good considering how many different models are out there. I'm willing to spend no more than $300, so what could I get in that price range that would work with FireWire (I have

Good, inexpensive digital camera

2002-04-14 Thread Luca Rescigno
-- I'm looking to get a digital camera, but I'm not sure what's good considering how many different models are out there. I'm willing to spend no more than $300, so what could I get in that price range that would work with FireWire (I have a Wallstreet 233 with a FireWire cardbus)? -- G