Re: HIPERSOCKETS Not Working

2011-01-31 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 01/31/2011 at 03:56 EST, Brent Litster brent.lits...@zionsbancorp.com wrote: A tcpdump from the z/Linux guest shows that a ping from a z/OS LPAR does arrive from the hipersocket link however no response to the ping was sent. The HiperSocket is working just fine, as demonstrated by

Re: HiperSockets Definitions

2010-11-18 Thread Mark Wheeler
Louis, They live on TCPMAINT 198. Good luck! Mark Wheeler UnitedHealth Group -- Excellence. Always. If Not Excellence, What? If Not Excellence Now, When? Tom Peters, author of The Little BIG Things Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 14:54:17 -0600 From: louis.gai...@its.ms.gov Subject:

Re: HiperSockets Definitions

2010-11-18 Thread Mike Walter
No fears. 1) Logon to the userid TCPMAINT. 2) ACCESS 198 P {Just think of filemode 'P' as Production - it could be any free filemode} 3) COPYFILE PROFILE TCPIP P = -1TCPIP P (OLDDATE {This makes a backup copy of the current PROFILE TCPIP P, saving the same file date/time, but named

Re: Hipersockets between z/VM LPARS and z/Linux guests running on the LPARS

2010-04-30 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 04/30/2010 at 12:29 EDT, Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) terry.mar...@cms.hhs.gov wrote: Thanks a bunch Rich for the information! I think the Firewall guys think if we use a Hipersocket than you do not need the Firewall rules. But I told them that even if Hipersockets are used you

Re: Hipersockets between z/VM LPARS and z/Linux guests running on the LPARS

2010-04-30 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 2:58 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Hipersockets between z/VM LPARS and z/Linux guests running on the LPARS On Friday, 04/30/2010 at 12:29 EDT, Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) terry.mar...@cms.hhs.gov wrote

Re: Hipersockets between z/VM LPARS and z/Linux guests running on the LPARS

2010-04-29 Thread Rich Smrcina
On 04/29/2010 01:57 PM, Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) wrote: Hi Currently we use Hipersockets between on z/OS LPARS and our z/Linux guests. This works great. The question I have is can Hipersockets be used to go from one z/Linux running on one z/VM LPAR to another? Currently we us

Re: Hipersockets between z/VM LPARS and z/Linux guests running on the LPARS

2010-04-29 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 04/29/2010 at 03:20 EDT, Rich Smrcina r...@velocitysoftware.com wrote: Yes, just attach a hipersocket triplet to each Linux guest in each of the LPARs. Configure the hsi interfaces appropriately and you're off to the races. But before you do that, you need to check with the

Re: Hipersockets between z/VM LPARS and z/Linux guests running on the LPARS

2010-04-29 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
/VM Performance Tuning and Operating Systems Support Office - 443 348-2102 Cell - 443 632-4191 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Rich Smrcina Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 3:20 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re

Re: Hipersockets between z/VM LPARS and z/Linux guests running on the LPARS

2010-04-29 Thread Rich Smrcina
You *can* use hipersockets to talk between Linux guests. If the guests are running in the same z/VM system it makes more sense to use the VSwitch, than to use hipersockets. Of course, if the Linux guests are in different LPARs then you have to use hipersockets. I defer the security aspect

Re: Hipersockets between z/VM LPARS and z/Linux guests running on the LPARS

2010-04-29 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
Subject: Re: Hipersockets between z/VM LPARS and z/Linux guests running on the LPARS You *can* use hipersockets to talk between Linux guests. If the guests are running in the same z/VM system it makes more sense to use the VSwitch, than to use hipersockets. Of course, if the Linux guests

Re: Hipersockets between z/VM LPARS and z/Linux guests running on the LPARS

2010-04-29 Thread Marcy Cortes
Of Rich Smrcina Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 10:38 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Hipersockets between z/VM LPARS and z/Linux guests running on the LPARS You *can* use hipersockets to talk between Linux guests. If the guests are running in the same z/VM system it makes more sense

Re: Hipersockets between z/VM LPARS and z/Linux guests running on the LPARS

2010-04-29 Thread Rich Smrcina
Vswitch is internal to CP, hipersockets makes most sense to move data between LPARs. Using hipersockets requires a trip out of the VM system (even if it's between virtual machines), whereas using the VSwitch stays within CP. On 04/29/2010 10:06 PM, Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) wrote:

Re: Hipersockets between z/VM LPARS and z/Linux guests running on the LPARS

2010-04-29 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
] On Behalf Of Rich Smrcina Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 11:14 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Hipersockets between z/VM LPARS and z/Linux guests running on the LPARS Vswitch is internal to CP, hipersockets makes most sense to move data between LPARs. Using hipersockets requires a trip

Re: Hipersockets between z/VM LPARS and z/Linux guests running on the LPARS

2010-04-29 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
-4191 -Original Message- From: Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 11:26 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: RE: Hipersockets between z/VM LPARS and z/Linux guests running on the LPARS Thanks Rich. So in my case if I want my APP Layer z/Linux guest

Re: Hipersockets between z/VM LPARS and z/Linux guests running on the LPARS

2010-04-29 Thread Rich Smrcina
Correct. As long as all of those LPARs are in the same CEC, everything is good. That guy with the security hat on it looking pretty squirrely, careful now On 04/29/2010 10:26 PM, Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) wrote: Thanks Rich. So in my case if I want my APP Layer z/Linux guest on

Re: Hipersockets between z/VM LPARS and z/Linux guests running on the LPARS

2010-04-29 Thread Rich Smrcina
Yes. On 04/29/2010 10:27 PM, Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) wrote: And one last thing Would I have both a Ethernet connection and Hipersockets(His) interface set up on all of the guests to handle both methods? Thank You, Terry Martin Lockheed Martin - Citic z/OS and z/VM Performance

Re: Hipersockets between z/VM LPARS and z/Linux guests running on the LPARS

2010-04-29 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
/VM Performance Tuning and Operating Systems Support Office - 443 348-2102 Cell - 443 632-4191 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Rich Smrcina Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 11:41 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re

Re: hipersockets on a VM layer 2 vswitch

2010-02-04 Thread russell . gendreau
System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Jacobs Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 4:32 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: hipersockets on a VM layer 2 vswitch That lpar is running zOS 1.10. Mark Jacobs -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System

Re: hipersockets on a VM layer 2 vswitch

2010-02-03 Thread David Boyes
You need a very modern z/OS for layer 2 connections to work. You don’t say what level of z.OS, but I think it has to be minimum 1.10 if not 1.11. On 2/3/10 2:54 PM, russell.gendr...@custserv.com russell.gendr...@custserv.com wrote: Greetings, We currently have multiple Linux guest running

Re: hipersockets on a VM layer 2 vswitch

2010-02-03 Thread Mark Jacobs
That lpar is running zOS 1.10. Mark Jacobs -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of David Boyes Sent: Wed 2/3/2010 4:23 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: hipersockets on a VM layer 2 vswitch You need a very modern z/OS for layer 2 connections

Re: HiperSockets Question

2008-08-22 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 08/20/2008 at 09:54 EDT, Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After a lot of effort we found that there was an extra route in the Linux routing table that sent the data bound for one of the z/OS LPARS over to our z/VM where it then was routed by the TCP/IP

Re: HiperSockets Question

2008-08-22 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 9:11 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: HiperSockets Question On Wednesday, 08/20/2008 at 09:54 EDT, Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After a lot of effort we found that there was an extra route in the Linux routing table that sent

Re: HiperSockets Question

2008-08-20 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 08/20/2008 at 03:43 EDT, Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I am using HiperSockets and my MTU size is 1500 and a pass a packet size of 2000 will the data in the packet be truncated since it is bigger than 1500? I thought I read that since

Re: HiperSockets Question

2008-08-20 Thread Miguel Delapaz
Packet fragmentation is done in the TCP/IP stack. The stack will chunk the packet up into smaller packets before sending it over the HiperSockets device. Regards, Miguel Delapaz z/VM TCP/IP Development The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU wrote on 08/20/2008 12:40:47 PM:

Re: HiperSockets Question

2008-08-20 Thread Miguel Delapaz
If you wanted to get nitpicky, it would actually need 3 fragments to account for the extra IP header(s). :-) Regards, Miguel Delapaz z/VM TCP/IP Development The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU wrote on 08/20/2008 01:38:48 PM: Yes and no. :-) It won't be truncated, but

Re: HiperSockets Question

2008-08-20 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 08/20/2008 at 04:44 EDT, Miguel Delapaz/Endicott/[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you wanted to get nitpicky, it would actually need 3 fragments to account for the extra IP header(s). :-) I *knew* I'd regret not diving into nitty gritty details. I KNEW IT. Mr. Smartypants.

Re: HiperSockets Question

2008-08-20 Thread Nick Laflamme
At 07:09 PM 8/20/2008 -0400, Alan Altmark wrote: I *knew* I'd regret not diving into nitty gritty details. I KNEW IT. Mr. Smartypants. Couldn't let it go, could you? We were in the middle of a *point*. DTCMPY001S Nobody ever expects the Spanish Inquisition.

Re: HiperSockets Question

2008-08-20 Thread Rich Smrcina
Isn't that Sir Alan da Weasel? :) Alan Altmark wrote: Alan da Weasel -- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Phone: 414-491-6001 Ans Service: 360-715-2467 rich.smrcina at vmassist.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/richsmrcina Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2009 - Orlando, FL - May 15-19,

Re: HiperSockets Question

2008-08-20 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 08/20/2008 at 07:51 EDT, Rich Smrcina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't that Sir Alan da Weasel? :) Please. Was Zorro, Don Zorro? I think not. Alan da Weasel

Re: HiperSockets Question

2008-08-20 Thread Thomas Kern
He was El Zorro. And Quickdraw McGraw was El Kabong. The 'El' does make a difference. /Tom Kern Alan Altmark wrote: On Wednesday, 08/20/2008 at 07:51 EDT, Rich Smrcina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't that Sir Alan da Weasel? :) Please. Was Zorro, Don Zorro? I think not. Alan da

Re: HiperSockets Question

2008-08-20 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 4:39 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: HiperSockets Question On Wednesday, 08/20/2008 at 03:43 EDT, Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

Re: HiperSockets

2008-07-28 Thread Ivica Brodaric
You can use the same address triplets in all LPARs. In other words, you can use all 24 addresses in every LPAR. If you have more than one connection to the CHPID from within the *same* LPAR (e.g. VM's TCPIP stack and LINUX guests), then, of course, you must use different triplets there. In z/VM,

Re: HiperSockets and Linux General question

2008-07-13 Thread Alan Altmark
On Sunday, 07/13/2008 at 06:54 EDT, Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I want to set up a HiperSockets link between one of my z/OS LPARS and a z/Linux guest can I just make the necessary changes to my z/OS TCPPARMS on that LPAR with the GATEWAY IP pointing to the

Re: HiperSockets

2008-07-11 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
Nielsen Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 1:28 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: HiperSockets There is no current restriction. We use our hipersocket addresses in consecutve groups of 3 without regard to the evenness or oddness of the = real address. Brian Nielsen On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 13:10:58

Re: HiperSockets

2008-07-11 Thread Mark Pace
PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: HiperSockets There is no current restriction. We use our hipersocket addresses in consecutve groups of 3 without regard to the evenness or oddness of the = real address. Brian Nielsen On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 13:10:58 -0400, Martin, Terry R. (CMS

Re: HiperSockets

2008-07-11 Thread McKown, John
prohibited. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Pace Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 1:29 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: HiperSockets Hmm - Thought

Re: HiperSockets

2008-07-11 Thread Mark Pace
*To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU *Subject:* Re: HiperSockets Hmm - Thought you could do that, as long as you used virtual addresses and the 1st address was even. Maybe I'm confused with another OS. I work on to many. [snip] -- Mark Pace Mainline Information Systems -- Mark Pace

Re: HiperSockets

2008-07-11 Thread Brian Nielsen
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] O n Behalf Of Brian Nielsen Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 1:28 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: HiperSockets There is no current restriction. We use our hipersocket addresses in consecutve groups of 3 without regard to the evenness or oddness of th e = real

Re: HiperSockets

2008-07-11 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 07/11/2008 at 02:32 EDT, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doesn't a CTC connection require the even/odd address for send/receive? No. It requires n and n+1. And even that is just an artifact of the device driver. There's nothing special about adjacent subchannels on a CTC.

Re: HiperSockets

2008-06-15 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 1:04 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: HiperSockets On Friday, 06/13/2008 at 10:08 EDT, Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With the help

Re: HiperSockets

2008-06-14 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 06/13/2008 at 10:08 EDT, Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With the help of IBM support we were able to figure out my problem. It turns out that we have a Source VIPA defined and active on the z/OS LPAR. In the HOME address specifications I had the z/VM HOME

Re: HiperSockets

2008-06-13 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 06/12/2008 at 06:13 EDT, Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will try to get this information. I am working off of a DUMB terminal for this proof of concept so getting screen shots and such is not happening. Screen shots are not required. Just transcribe

Re: HiperSockets

2008-06-13 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
, Terry -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 5:25 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: HiperSockets On Thursday, 06/12/2008 at 04:26 EDT, Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: HiperSockets

2008-06-12 Thread Hans Rempel
Hi Terry. I suspect that your gateway or default statement in the VM TCPIP stack is not correct. Need a network diagram and your TCPIP statements to provide further suggestions. Hans From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR)

Re: HiperSockets

2008-06-12 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 06/12/2008 at 04:26 EDT, Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have set up a HiprSockets connection from z/VM 5.3 to one of my z/OS LPARS. I can PING the z/OS LPAR but when I try to PINGthe z/VM LPAR from the z/OS LPAR we time out. Is there anything I

Re: HiperSockets

2008-06-12 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
5:25 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: HiperSockets On Thursday, 06/12/2008 at 04:26 EDT, Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have set up a HiprSockets connection from z/VM 5.3 to one of my z/OS LPARS. I can PING the z/OS LPAR but when I try to PINGthe z/VM

Re: HiperSockets Setup

2008-06-07 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 06/06/2008 at 05:19 EDT, Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I specified the MTU on the Gateway statement! The error was DTCPRS051E ? Line 24: Invalid Packet Size in Gateway Command: 16384 I think the problem is that 16384 exceeds the

Re: HiperSockets Setup

2008-06-07 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
Thanks Alan, I will verify this and will open a PMR if needed! Thanks, Terry -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 8:45 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: HiperSockets Setup

Re: HiperSockets Setup

2008-06-06 Thread Peggy Williams
Operating SystemSubject [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: HiperSockets Setup ARK.EDU

Re: HiperSockets Setup

2008-06-06 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
: Friday, June 06, 2008 12:13 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: HiperSockets Setup On Thursday, 06/05/2008 at 05:14 EDT, Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Basically once I got the filename correct and added the PASSWORD for the TCPMAINT 198 disk I was able

Re: HiperSockets Setup

2008-06-06 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
] From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peggy Williams Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 10:13 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: HiperSockets Setup Terry, What statement did you specify the MTU on - Gateway or Link

Re: HiperSockets Setup

2008-06-05 Thread Peggy Williams
Terry, The message DTCOBE005E Unable to read file 'Filename Filetype filemode' means that it cannot read your configuration file for some reason. Do you have the correct filename, filetype and filemode? Peggy Williams 607-429-4063 z/VM - TCP/IP Development

Re: HiperSockets Setup

2008-06-05 Thread Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT) [E]
AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: HiperSockets Setup Terry, The message DTCOBE005E Unable to read file 'Filename Filetype filemode' means that it cannot read your configuration file for some reason. Do you have the correct filename, filetype and filemode? Peggy Williams 607-429

Re: HiperSockets Setup

2008-06-05 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
) 632-4191 - Cell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Ackerman Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 11:04 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: HiperSockets Setup On Wed, 4 Jun 2008 17:44:05 -0500, Mike

Re: HiperSockets Setup

2008-06-05 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peggy Williams Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 9:15 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: HiperSockets Setup Terry, The message DTCOBE005E Unable to read file

Re: HiperSockets Setup

2008-06-05 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
(NIH/CIT) [E] Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 9:20 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: HiperSockets Setup And don't forget the minidisk-read-password like I always do. Bobby Bauer Center for Information Technology National Institutes of Health Bethesda, MD 20892-5628 301-594-7474

Re: HiperSockets Setup

2008-06-05 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 06/05/2008 at 09:20 EDT, Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT) [E] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And don?t forget the minidisk-read-password like I always do. (Pt! Hey, buddy! Over here. Wanna buy a security manager? No more worries about minidisk passwords.) Alan Altmark z/VM Development

Re: HiperSockets Setup

2008-06-05 Thread Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT) [E]
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: HiperSockets Setup On Thursday, 06/05/2008 at 09:20 EDT, Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT) [E] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And don?t forget the minidisk-read-password like I always do. (Pt! Hey, buddy! Over here. Wanna buy a security manager? No more worries about

Re: HiperSockets Setup

2008-06-05 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 06/04/2008 at 06:44 EDT, Mike Walter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looking in the z/VM 530 TCP/IP Messages and Codes manual, there's no DTCOBE0055E message listed. OBVIOUSLY, it must be self-documenting! That typed with disapproval of self-documenting messages dripping from the

Re: HiperSockets Setup

2008-06-05 Thread Mark Pace
National Institutes of Health Bethesda, MD 20892-5628 301-594-7474 -- *From:* Peggy Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thursday, June 05, 2008 9:15 AM *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU *Subject:* Re: HiperSockets Setup Terry, The message DTCOBE005E

Re: HiperSockets Setup

2008-06-05 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 06/05/2008 at 05:14 EDT, Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Basically once I got the filename correct and added the PASSWORD for the TCPMAINT 198 disk I was able to get the OBEYFILE command to work. I did receive an error on my first good try. It was

Re: HiperSockets Setup

2008-06-04 Thread Mike Walter
Terry, Looking in the z/VM 530 TCP/IP Messages and Codes manual, there's no DTCOBE0055E message listed. OBVIOUSLY, it must be self-documenting! That typed with disapproval of self-documenting messages dripping from the keyboard. In fact there's only 1 (count 'em, ONE) numbered OBEYFILE

Re: HiperSockets Setup

2008-06-04 Thread Kreiter, Chuck
Make sure you use the 2007 version of the Hipersockets Redbook. I was never able to get it to work with the 2002 edition. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008

Re: HiperSockets Setup

2008-06-04 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
Subject: Re: HiperSockets Setup Make sure you use the 2007 version of the Hipersockets Redbook. I was never able to get it to work with the 2002 edition. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR

Re: HiperSockets Setup

2008-06-04 Thread Mike Walter
) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06/04/2008 10:10 PM AST To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: HiperSockets Setup Hi Yes, I have the 2007 version! Any Idea what the error message means? Thanks, Terry From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: HiperSockets Setup

2008-06-04 Thread Alan Ackerman
On Wed, 4 Jun 2008 17:44:05 -0500, Mike Walter [EMAIL PROTECTED] w rote: Terry, Looking in the z/VM 530 TCP/IP Messages and Codes manual, there's no DTCOBE0055E message listed. OBVIOUSLY, it must be self-documenting! That typed with disapproval of self-documenting messages dripping fro m the

Re: Hipersockets - xposted to VM-L IBM-Main

2008-05-27 Thread Mark Pace
Sorry for the late reply, I've been on vacation. (some of you may remember those). I do not see where you would specify a port name on z/OS. I've tried to remove the port names from the z/VM definitions, but thus far it has not made a difference. On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 3:32 AM, Alan Altmark

Re: Hipersockets - xposted to VM-L IBM-Main

2008-05-27 Thread Ivica Brodaric
Maybe you are not even using port name on z/OS. I don't know much about z/OS, so I cannot help you find it, but even if you are not using port name in z/OS, you have to be sure that nothing else comes up before the z/OS guest, connects to the hipersocket and changes port name from nothing into

Re: Hipersockets

2008-05-27 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 05/27/2008 at 11:35 EDT, Ivica Brodaric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe you are not even using port name on z/OS. I don't know much about z/OS, so I cannot help you find it, but even if you are not using port name in z/OS, you have to be sure that nothing else comes up before

Re: Hipersockets

2008-05-27 Thread Ivica Brodaric
Alan, A mismatched port name on an OSA creates an initialization error. Correct, but with a caveat explained in the other thread (yes for z990 onwards, before z990 one character could mismatch. I know it sounds weird, but that's the way it worked) In any case, HiperSockets do not have port

Re: Hipersockets - xposted to VM-L IBM-Main

2008-05-26 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Hipersockets - xposted to VM-L IBM-Main Does it make a difference that Hipersockets are real devices dedicated to the z/OS guest and the OSA connection is a VSWITCH? The OSA connection on the VSWITCH works, the real Hipersockets do not. On Wed, Apr 23, 2008

Re: Hipersockets - xposted to VM-L IBM-Main

2008-05-13 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 05/12/2008 at 01:53 EDT, Stephen Frazier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My recollection is that the port name must be the same everywhere or absent everywhere. Try removing your port names and see if that works. Port names are meaningful to z/OS, not Linux or z/VM. It is ok if some are

Re: Hipersockets - xposted to VM-L IBM-Main

2008-05-13 Thread Ivica Brodaric
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Port names are meaningful to z/OS, not Linux or z/VM. It is ok if some are using port names and others are not. If you are using port names, then all users must have the same port name. First one in wins. Which means -

Re: Hipersockets

2008-05-12 Thread Mark Pace
Yes, your drawing is correct - here is additional information CHPID FF 10.6.0.0/24 +-+-+-+-+ | | | | | z/VM1 v/VM2 z/OS1 z/OS2 z/VSE LPAR LPAR LPAR

Re: Hipersockets - xposted to VM-L IBM-Main

2008-05-12 Thread Mark Pace
I created a Hipersockets VLAN. I stopped the interface in TCPIP, detached the real hipersockets, defined a NIC and coupled it to the VLAN. I did the same on the z/OS guest, (which required an IPL, the devices were still active after stopping the adapter, VTAM?) and now the z/VM on the VLAN and the

Re: Hipersockets - xposted to VM-L IBM-Main

2008-05-12 Thread Brian Nielsen
On Mon, 12 May 2008 10:47:39 -0400, Mark Pace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I created a Hipersockets VLAN. I stopped the interface in TCPIP, detached the real hipersockets, define d a NIC and coupled it to the VLAN. I did the same on the z/OS guest, (which required an IPL, the devices we re still

Re: Hipersockets - xposted to VM-L IBM-Main

2008-05-12 Thread Mark Pace
The only difference I see is that I have a port name in z/VM that i do not have in z/OS. But the z/OS that works does not have a port name specified either. *q lan tstlan details* LAN SYSTEM TSTLAN Type: HIPERS Connected: 2Maxconn: INFINITE PERSISTENT UNRESTRICTED IPMFS:

Re: Hipersockets - xposted to VM-L IBM-Main

2008-05-12 Thread Stephen Frazier
My recollection is that the port name must be the same everywhere or absent everywhere. Try removing your port names and see if that works. Mark Pace wrote: The only difference I see is that I have a port name in z/VM that i do not have in z/OS. But the z/OS that works does not have a port

Re: Hipersockets - xposted to VM-L IBM-Main

2008-05-12 Thread Mark Pace
I remember that also, but it was many years ago. The z/OS in an LPAR works without a portname, and the z/VM and z/OS worked on the VLAN, one with a portname and one without, so I really don't think that's it. I did remove the portnames from my VM TCPIP stacks and restarted them, then stopped and

Re: Hipersockets

2008-05-10 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 05/09/2008 at 01:58 EDT, Thomas Kern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there an IBM Statement of Direction for a VSWITCH/HiperSocket connection? No. Requirement MR0331062246 was submitted in 2006 and was answered Suggestion. If others want this support, please get with your fave user

Re: Hipersockets

2008-05-10 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 05/09/2008 at 02:10 EDT, Mark Pace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need a LAN connected to real Hipersockets to test this problem. Well maybe not, just to test connectivity I could try just VM's TCPIP and the z/OS guest. If it works, then know I know I have some odd hardware

Re: Hipersockets - xposted to VM-L IBM-Main

2008-05-09 Thread Mark Pace
Removing RMCHINFO had no effect. Routing and IP information from different systems on the Hipersocket Lan. *z/VM on the GP* netstat home VM TCP/IP Netstat Level 520 IPv4 Home address entries: Address Subnet Mask Link --- --- -- 199.44.nnn.nn

Re: Hipersockets - xposted to VM-L IBM-Main

2008-05-09 Thread Mark Pace
On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 11:20 AM, Brian Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 9 May 2008 08:27:19 -0400, Mark Pace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't find any error in the addressing or routing. That looked fine to me, too. From the z/OS guest: What do a NETSTAT,ARP and a TRACERTE show?

Re: Hipersockets - xposted to VM-L IBM-Main

2008-05-09 Thread Mark Pace
snip Something you might want to try for debugging purposes is to remove the hardware from the equation by defining a hipersocket LAN and connect your z/OS guest and a VM TCP/IP stack to it. There could be something to that. When I create a z/OS under z/VM I have to use a vswitch LAN

Re: Hipersockets - xposted to VM-L IBM-Main

2008-05-09 Thread Mark Post
On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 1:44 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mark Pace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -snip- Now that I think about it, I believe I read that you could not connect a Virtual LAN, or VSWITCH to Hipersockets. I need to read some and find out where I got that idea. You can define a

Re: Hipersockets - xposted to VM-L IBM-Main

2008-05-09 Thread Thomas Kern
Is there an IBM Statement of Direction for a VSWITCH/HiperSocket connection? /Tom Kern Mark Post wrote: On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 1:44 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mark Pace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -snip- Now that I think about it, I believe I read that you could not connect a Virtual

Re: Hipersockets - xposted to VM-L IBM-Main

2008-05-09 Thread Mark Pace
I need a LAN connected to real Hipersockets to test this problem. Well maybe not, just to test connectivity I could try just VM's TCPIP and the z/OS guest. If it works, then know I know I have some odd hardware problem. On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Mark Post [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On

Re: Hipersockets - xposted to VM-L IBM-Mai

2008-05-09 Thread Mark Pace
On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Thomas Kern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there an IBM Statement of Direction for a VSWITCH/HiperSocket connection? /Tom Kern I would like to see a tool on the HMC to view the same sort of information that you get from Query VSWITCH DETAILS. -- Mark Pace

Re: Hipersockets - xposted to VM-L IBM-Main

2008-05-09 Thread Brian Nielsen
On Fri, 9 May 2008 13:44:14 -0400, Mark Pace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Something you might want to try for debugging purposes is to remove t he hardware from the equation by defining a hipersocket LAN and connect your z/OS guest and a VM TCP/IP stack to it. There could be

Re: Hipersockets - xposted to VM-L IBM-Main

2008-05-09 Thread Ivica Brodaric
Does anything that connects to hipersocket (or your OSA, which you say has a similar problem) set a portname through DEVICE statement? PORTNAME is not required since z/VM 4.4 (or 4.3 with a PTF and a certain microcode level), and I see you are on z/VM 5.2 and you don't use it on DEVICE statement

Re: Hipersockets - xposted to VM-L IBM-Main

2008-05-08 Thread Mark Pace
Does anyone have a z/OS guest running under z/VM using Hipersockets? I am still unable to get my z/OS guest under z/VM to communicate over Hipersockets. The z/OS running in an LPAR works perfectly. -- Mark Pace Mainline Information Systems

Re: Hipersockets - xposted to VM-L IBM-Main

2008-05-08 Thread Mark Pace
No, no messages, other than that the device initialized okay. EZZ4313I INITIALIZATION COMPLETE FOR DEVICE IUTIQDFF I know the CHPID works, because TCP/IP in that z/VM works with the Hipersockets. q chpid ff Path FF online to devices 0720 0721 0722 0723 0724 0725 0726 0727 Path FF online to

Re: Hipersockets - xposted to VM-L IBM-Main

2008-05-08 Thread Brian Nielsen
On Thu, 8 May 2008 08:45:21 -0400, Mark Pace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have a z/OS guest running under z/VM using Hipersockets? I am still unable to get my z/OS guest under z/VM to communicate over Hipersockets. The z/OS running in an LPAR works perfectly. Verify that the CHPID of

Re: Hipersockets - xposted to VM-L IBM-Main

2008-05-08 Thread Brian Nielsen
pedantic In your VTAM TRLE, do the READ, WRITE, and DATAPATH addresses match the addresses you have dedicated to your z/OS guest (724, 725, and 726 in you r case)? Are those addresses and paths online in your z/OS image? Is the VTAM TRLE active? /pedantic I don't know if a z/OS virtual

Re: Hipersockets - xposted to VM-L IBM-Main

2008-05-08 Thread Mark Pace
For Hipersockets I do not create a TRLE, only for an OSA adapter. At least that works on my z/OS system running in an LPAR. Options in the User direct OPTION MAINTCCW LNKNOPAS DEVINFO DEVMAINT DIAG98 NOMDCFS RMCHINFO OPTION STGEXEMPT SVC76VM Yes they are online. That is also weird because

Re: Hipersockets - xposted to VM-L IBM-Main

2008-05-08 Thread Brian Nielsen
On Thu, 8 May 2008 16:18:52 -0400, Mark Pace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For Hipersockets I do not create a TRLE, only for an OSA adapter. At least that works on my z/OS system running in an LPAR. You're right, no TRLE. I got carried away. Options in the User direct OPTION MAINTCCW LNKNOPAS

Re: Hipersockets - xposted to VM-L IBM-Main

2008-04-30 Thread Mark Pace
I'm totally confused. Routing table from HostA (z/OS 1.9 LPAR) netstat route EZZ2350I MVS TCP/IP NETSTAT CS V1R9 TCPIP Name: TCPIP 13:00:42 EZZ2755I Destination Gateway Flags Refcnt Interface EZZ2756I --- --- - -- -

Re: Hipersockets - xposted to VM-L IBM-Main

2008-04-26 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 04/23/2008 at 10:41 EDT, Mark Pace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does it make a difference that Hipersockets are real devices dedicated to the z/OS guest and the OSA connection is a VSWITCH? The OSA connection on the VSWITCH works, the real Hipersockets do not. Sorry if I

Re: Hipersockets - xposted to VM-L IBM-Main

2008-04-23 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 04/22/2008 at 03:21 EDT, Mark Pace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But the Hipersockets are a different issue. I attached 3 address, (even-odd-even) to the guest as the same addresses used on the original z/OS, (As an aside, the addresses aren't important to z/OS. He only cares about

Re: Hipersockets - xposted to VM-L IBM-Main

2008-04-23 Thread Mark Pace
Hey, Mark - Thanks for the reply. The OSA connections to the internet are on a VSWITCH, the Hipersockets are not. The Hipersocket connection are 3 real addresses dedicated to the VM guest. On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 4:51 PM, Mark Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark, Check your VSWITCH

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