[LegacyUG] Access Query of Legacy Database

2007-10-06 Thread Cedric Wyndham
Dear Forum Members, I am trying to produce a report that will be a start off point for us to produce an updated address list for all living descendants of an ancestor who has 2,500 descendants, ie too many to create the report by manual means. We don't know who among this 2,500 is still living,

[LegacyUG] Entering dates - day and month are known, year is estimated

2007-10-06 Thread Tracy Skegg
Hi Listers I'm not happy with trying to enter dates into my file. I've got some dates where the day and month are known, but the year is listed as 19??. I'm not sure how to enter it into my file. I could enter it twenty or more years after the bride's birthday 1950, but how to do that? eg 20

Re: [LegacyUG] Access Query of Legacy Database

2007-10-06 Thread Cathy
Instead of working in Access, you can get what you want from the Name List/Search List in Legacy. Tag the people you want and show that tag number in the Name List. Go to Print, choose the fields you want If I understand you, RIN, Surname, Given Names, Birthdate, Address Name, Address - pick

RE: [LegacyUG] Entering dates - day and month are known, year is estimated

2007-10-06 Thread Roger Jones
Hi Tracy, Could you not enter the day and month on the Individual's Information page and add 19?? in the christening/baptism notes? Roger Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 17:30:09 +1000 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Entering dates - day and month

Re: [LegacyUG] Open Office

2007-10-06 Thread Kim Jones
To Jess M It is quite a big program to download but it's denfinately worth the couple of cups of coffee you will have to have while waiting for it to download. Plus it's FREE, well except for the coffee and download time and I recon if it gives 'ol Billy Gates a run for his trillions then it

Re: [LegacyUG] Entering dates - day and month are known, year is estimated

2007-10-06 Thread Cathy
Hi Tracy, I enter it just like that and accept it as an invalid date and exclude from potential problems. Add a To Do to find the actual year. Cathy At 03:30 PM 6/10/2007, you wrote: Hi Listers I'm not happy with trying to enter dates into my file. I've got some dates where the day and

RE: [LegacyUG] Please take it off list

2007-10-06 Thread Kees Hessels
I agree ! Kees hessels -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: zaterdag 6 oktober 2007 5:56 Aan: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Onderwerp: Re: [LegacyUG] Please take it off list Jim, Could you please explain

Re: [LegacyUG] source label color

2007-10-06 Thread Joan Lalonde
Thank you Joe. I never would have figured that out. Joan - Original Message - From: joe Martin To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 6:26 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] source label color I remember that one. It's Colors tab, then contents.

RE: [LegacyUG] ?? easy way to upload Legacy web pages to 'freepages' ??

2007-10-06 Thread Paul A.
J B, I am on dial up and can't possible sit and wait on 3,000 pages to upload other than through an FTP program. Sometime back I downloaded SmartFTP and used it to upload my Legacy webpages. -- Paul What a glorious world God Almighty has given us. How thankless and ungrateful we are, and how

Re: [LegacyUG] Advice on publishing a book

2007-10-06 Thread Cathy
Hi Christine, Ultimately you'll have to decide what to include in your book. And the best way to get a feel for how it might look is to experiment using the PDF options so you don't kill a forest when you're just trying things out. May I suggest instead of heaps of Ancestor Books which

RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.0

2007-10-06 Thread Jane Fabiano-Turner
Wonder when we will be able to get the updates? Jane From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (please note my new email) Visit my websites: www.wmwebmasters.com and www.jftwd.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patricia WENZEL Sent: Friday, October 05,

RE: [LegacyUG] Suggestions wanted please: How to enter boarder

2007-10-06 Thread Cary
This gets into the whole issue of who is a bone fide family member. If he were only a boarder MY answer would be not to enter him at all. It seems likely from the little here that David Williams, still a boarder, was wrongly listed in 1910 as a Kaspar. Even if you are correct that David K and

RE: [LegacyUG] Foster children

2007-10-06 Thread familyjesse
I have a question related to this and to census. There are events for husband and events for wife but is there any way to list shared events like vacations, foster children, census where all the members of the family were involved or events where husband and wife were involved? It is tedious

RE: [LegacyUG] Suggestions wanted please: How to enter boarder

2007-10-06 Thread familyjesse
Sorry for jumping in on this, but I would never leave him out if he was there in the census. Those kinds of details sometimes come together later to mean something, and not always what you thought they meant initially. In your event details you can list him and tell the situation without listing

Re: [LegacyUG] source label color

2007-10-06 Thread Pat Hickin
From the Family View, I clicked on Customize, Colors, Contents, but I don't see anything about sources. Pat - Original Message - From: joe Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 6:26 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] source label

Re: [LegacyUG] same sex relationships

2007-10-06 Thread Pat Hickin
Why don't you just set up your message rules to delete emails with same sex in the subject line? Then others could solve their problems and you could avoid them!? Pat - Original Message - From: GeoSci [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Friday, October

Re: [LegacyUG] Advice on publishing a book

2007-10-06 Thread John Carter
Create PDF versions of each of the reports/charts and show them to other family members. Some people prefer the line-and-box charts, some want text, others want a verbose narrative. Some want source details, others just want the people parts. You can't please everyone, but you can find out which

Re: [LegacyUG] Suggestions wanted please: How to enter boarder

2007-10-06 Thread Pat Hickin
I would appreciate some suggestions on how to enter a boarder into Legacy so that a future reader can understand clearly it is not a bona fide family member. I'm not sure this is relevant to your particular issue, but I have an event entitled Also living in household and then in description I

Re: [LegacyUG] source label color

2007-10-06 Thread Kay Fordham
Pat: From the Help File on Information Screen: Highlighted Field Titles As you add source documentation to the pieces of information on the screen, the title labels for those fields will be highlighted a different color so that you can see at a glance which information is documented. (See

Re: [LegacyUG] Suggestions wanted please: How to enter boarder

2007-10-06 Thread Jim Keener
Pat, I believe that is the best suggestion I've seen so far. Thanks! On 10/6/07, Pat Hickin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would appreciate some suggestions on how to enter a boarder into Legacy so that a future reader can understand clearly it is not a bona fide family member. I'm not sure

Re: [LegacyUG] Error #6

2007-10-06 Thread Susan Daily
Melody, can you manually open the GEDCOM file using a text editor like WordPad, and simply erase half the file at a time? Then try importing it into a new test Legacy file? Then do it again with the other half, opening into a second test file. Then merge the two files, or simply import from one to

RE: [LegacyUG] Error #6

2007-10-06 Thread Melody
I did try that. The problem with brute-force chopping up the file is that info in the last half of the file references stuff in the first half and those links get broken. But yep, it will except for that import the files just fine. -Original Message- From: Susan Daily Sent: Saturday,

RE: [LegacyUG] Please take it off list -- IT'S A LEGITMATE QUERY, FOLKS!

2007-10-06 Thread Stacey Connella
I certainly hope the petty arguments I see on in this list aren't representative of all the Legacy users. I'm currently evaluating Legacy against RootsMagic after 15 years on FTM. All things being equal between the two (i.e., same number of pros and cons, and neither being lacking in any key

[LegacyUG] GEDSplit

2007-10-06 Thread John Carter
I found copies of GEDSplit, GEDLiving95 (to remove details on living people), and Gedcaps95 (to change capitalization) tucked away in a far corner of my hard drive. These programs are all shareware by Randy Winch ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and I think registration is $10 per program (see the nag screens

Re: [LegacyUG] Error #6

2007-10-06 Thread Susan Daily
Did you receive the file from someone else or create it yourself? Can you import it into another program like FTM or the free LDS software, PAF? If you can import it into PAF, how about then splitting up one of the major couples so that you can peel off about 10k-20k names? Then try exporting to a

Re: [LegacyUG] Please take it off list -- IT'S A LEGITMATE QUERY, FOLKS!

2007-10-06 Thread Allen Prunty
Stacey... I agree fully... I got a free copy of Roots Magic with my World Vital Records subscription. Legacy has much more features except the ability to record a Male-Male / Female-Female relationships. I am honestly disheartened at the fact that we can not discuss real world issues. I

Re: [LegacyUG] Please take it off list

2007-10-06 Thread Allen Prunty
Jim... If this is the official word from Legacy Technical support and the company then I can assume that we will never see this support in the software in the future. There are several very public messages today that indicate that there are some of us who need this... granted we don't

[LegacyUG] My Previous post

2007-10-06 Thread Allen Prunty
Oh and I forgot to add on my previous post... I really don't know people to ask the question off list... if anyone reads my situation and knows how to record it please e-mail me offlist... even though it probably would benefit someone else. It's hard to ask questions offlist when you don't

RE: [LegacyUG] Suggestions wanted please: How to enter boarder

2007-10-06 Thread Jack Earnshaw
I would not include a visitor, boarder, lodger etc as a person in Legacy unless there was an indication, at least, that he was a family member. It’s too easy already to wander off into the in laws of the in laws of a distant cousin without adding their friends as well. BUT, and it is a big

RE: [LegacyUG] Please take it off list -- IT'S A LEGITMATE QUERY, FOLKS!

2007-10-06 Thread Paul
Stacey, You have expressed it better than anyone else has. I, too, want ONLY to know the best way to handle it. But I dare never ask. I went to the archives. However, I find it just as absurd and ridiculous that we cant discuss the best way to make an entry of any relationship in our

RE: [LegacyUG] same sex relationships

2007-10-06 Thread Jack Earnshaw
I agree it is a real issue. The software, and the list, permits discussion on entering data for adoptions (not genealogy), illegitimacy/the milkman (genealogy, not family history), incest (genealogy), pets (m). So why is this one specific subject so hard to bear. In the UK it is now legal for

RE: [LegacyUG] Who appointed some of us moderators?

2007-10-06 Thread Jack Earnshaw
Allen Such wise words. I wish I could have put my feelings this way Jack -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allen Prunty Sent: 06 October 2007 02:52 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Who appointed some of us

Re: [LegacyUG] Please take it off list -- IT'S A LEGITMATE QUERY, FOLKS!

2007-10-06 Thread Allen Prunty
Or what about the Great Great Great Grandfather who liked to make babies with his slaves? I have one of those... Or the Great, Great Uncle who had a habit of spreading his seed around town? All families have their skeletons. Paul wrote: What about all the abortions that occur in your

Re: [LegacyUG] Error #6

2007-10-06 Thread Robert57P via Gmail
Have you tried viewing the GEDCOM file in Notepad (or similar) at entries around #14035? There might be a stray character or missing ENTER or some other oddity that you can spot visually and fix. This could be right at 14035, or it might be a few before or after that entry. Obviously do

RE: [LegacyUG] Suggestions wanted please: How to enter boarder

2007-10-06 Thread Janis Gilmore
I think I would enter two individuals, not attached to anyone, in my database: David Williams (with the appropriate age data etc) and David Kaspar (entering same). A Note event in each file saying David Williams is likely to be the same individual as David Kaspar (RIN) and adding your reasoning

RE: [LegacyUG] Please take it off list -- IT'S A LEGITMATE QUERY, FOLKS!

2007-10-06 Thread Janis Gilmore
Stacey, Thank you for your cogent email. I have been on Legacy for perhaps around 2 years, after several years on The Master Genealogist. I still think that TMG is a great program, and my reasons for switching have not too much to do with the value of the two programs - they are both quite good.

[LegacyUG] Unique Events you have made

2007-10-06 Thread Allen Prunty
Just to add a bit of levity here... How many of you have made unique events? Like I have one that I created called Jail where I logged the jail time that one of my ancestors spent in jail. I have another called Prison and one called Moonshine (My family was intwined with the capones)

[LegacyUG] names in italics

2007-10-06 Thread Lisa Davis
I'm a new Legacy user and have noticed some of the names I imported are italicized. Do you know why that happened and how do I go about changing it? Thanks! ~Lisa Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages:

Re: [LegacyUG] GEDSplit

2007-10-06 Thread Mary Fowler Leek
Thank you, John, for providing access to these extremely well written and helpful utilities. I registered my copies of his software with him and used it for several years. I'm so pleased to have the chance to archive these helpful little utilities. Thank you for making them available for this

Re: [LegacyUG] names in italics

2007-10-06 Thread Susan Daily
Do they have a gender associated with them? They might not, which makes them stand out. (This is customizable in options.) Susan On 10/6/07, Lisa Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm a new Legacy user and have noticed some of the names I imported are italicized. Do you know why that happened

Re: [LegacyUG] Suggestions wanted please: How to enter boarder

2007-10-06 Thread Jim Keener
I don't know about other places but in my area, and really in much of the south, this was a common practice. Having been in the real estate and auction business for 30 years, I have run across many cases where tenants or boarders have recieved title to the property fee simple, when the owner

[LegacyUG] Custom Events for boarder

2007-10-06 Thread Allen Prunty
I would create a Custom event called Boarder And would use the verbage... He/She had a boarder, [Desc] in his/her household during the [Date] census, [inPlace].[Source] [Notes] Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages:

Re: [LegacyUG] Suggestions wanted please: How to enter boarder

2007-10-06 Thread Quest
In the Legacy Training CD regarding how to deal with Census Entries, it is suggested that you list someone who is not obviously a family member as a New Unlinked Individual (under the ADD tab on the toolbar). That way, if the surname happens to pop up again in your research as a family member,

RE: [LegacyUG] Foster children

2007-10-06 Thread Cathy
Marriage Events Think of them as Family Events rather than Wedding Events. If a couple fostered a child, make sure the child is linked to the couple. Rather than to just the mother. You can then have the child in the regular family with status Foster child OR you can have a double marriage

[LegacyUG] topics for the Legacy list

2007-10-06 Thread Janis Gilmore
I echo the sentiments of those who do not believe that a few easily-upset list members should dictate the tone of the list. The atmosphere that is created on this list will to some extent dictate what market segment the software attracts. The more thinking folk should be made more welcome.

Re: [LegacyUG] Please take it off list -- IT'S A LEGITMATE QUERY, FOLKS!

2007-10-06 Thread marilyn E B
I was not going to add more flame to the fire after the fuel I added to genealogy versus family history. However, I think the Legacy Staff needs to know that the attitude and words of some on this group are driving potential users away. A friend who I share the highs and lows of searches for

RE: [LegacyUG] GEDSplit

2007-10-06 Thread Wally Zittle
That was great info. Now I have several GedComs I would like to combine without duplicates. They are large and have several overlaps. Is there a way to do it? (My first post to this board.) Wally -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John

Re: [LegacyUG] Please take it off list -- IT'S A LEGITMATE QUERY, FOLKS!

2007-10-06 Thread Sara Binkley Tarpley
I unsubscribed from this list, the most unpleasant one that I have ever been on, last night; but evidently the process didn't work. I have already thanked Stacey privately for the message. It seems to me that it would be very simple to allow discussions of how to enter same-sex relationships,

Re: [LegacyUG] Please take it off list

2007-10-06 Thread Jim Keener
The Master Genealogist works great. On 10/6/07, Allen Prunty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim... If this is the official word from Legacy Technical support and the company then I can assume that we will never see this support in the software in the future. There are several very public

RE: [LegacyUG] names in italics

2007-10-06 Thread Mike
Lisa, Italicized names indicate that the sex of the person is unknown. Also, posts to this list should be made in plain text, not HTML. Mike I'm a new Legacy user and have noticed some of the names I imported are italicized. Do you know why that happened and how do I go about

Re: [LegacyUG] Please take it off list

2007-10-06 Thread TH
Excellent point, Allen. I told Jim privately last night that I thought it would be a good idea for Legacy to either say that they were intending to fix the problem or they weren't intending to fix the problem and then, depending on the answer to that, people ought to be allowed to discuss ways

Re: [LegacyUG] Please take it off list -- IT'S A LEGITMATE QUERY, FOLKS!

2007-10-06 Thread ETM
The list is most likely on auto-pilot until people return from the cruise. Elaine I unsubscribed from this list, the most unpleasant one that I have ever been on, last night; but evidently the process didn't work. I have already thanked Stacey privately for the message. It seems to me

Re: [LegacyUG] Suggestions wanted please: How to enter boarder

2007-10-06 Thread ETM
All of my father's brothers were listed as boarders at the family address. I assume it meant they had all reached majority, were working, but were still living at home and may well have been paying their mom and dad for room and board. Who knows what entered the mind of the enumerator when he

Re: [LegacyUG] GEDSplit

2007-10-06 Thread agh3rd
Randy is with Ancestry- programs the gedcom and tree area I think. He can be found on their message boards. -Original Message- From: John Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 3:56 pm Subject: [LegacyUG] GEDSplit I found copies of

Re: [LegacyUG] Please take it off list -- IT'S A LEGITMATE QUERY, FOLKS!

2007-10-06 Thread ETM
I am neither a fan of TMG nor of its users (didn't think they were cute, witty and kind, thought they were a bit pompous and self-impressed), but that isn't the topic here. TMG costs money, big money. Legacy has a free version and a paid version. Those who use the free are not locked out of

Re: [LegacyUG] Please take it off list -- IT'S A LEGITMATE QUERY, FOLKS!

2007-10-06 Thread Elizabeth Cunningham
This is a very sound and well reasoned response. (Please don't judge the quality of the program by the responses on this topic!) I feel sorry in this context for people with real problems -- like the person who wrote that they had 3 same-sex marriages in the family and how should they record

RE: [LegacyUG] Foster children

2007-10-06 Thread Stacey Connella
Carol, I haven't yet begun dealing with this in Legacy as I am still evaluating the software. However, over my many years as a user of FTM, I have tended to record family data in the marriages area, usually as notes (given FTM's severe sourcing and events limitations). It's not ideal, but I've

RE: [LegacyUG] Please take it off list -- IT'S A LEGITMATE QUERY, FOLKS!

2007-10-06 Thread James HILLS Jr.
Maybe we should ask ourselved do we record genealogy or do we record family history. I do believe that these are two entirely different subjects. !! Jim Hills Houston TX Janis Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stacey, Thank you for

Re: [LegacyUG] Please take it off list

2007-10-06 Thread Anne Hildrum
People I guess handle same sex marriages different ways. Since I haven't so far found 2 marrying that both are related to me, I just make the one related to me the right sex, and the other one ends up with the wrong sex. I then make a comment that the person is male/female but Legacy can't

Re: [LegacyUG] Unique Events you have made

2007-10-06 Thread marilyn E B
Allen, How do you handle the jail issue, actually mine was workhouse and then there would be moonshine that contributed to the workhouse. Then I also have the problem that the family members were scattered all over that census year. Well one son was also in the workhouse with his father. Various

Re: [LegacyUG] names in italics

2007-10-06 Thread Jim Keener
I have one or two of those in my file too, Lisa. I've tried to figure out how to change it and how it got there. Someone will tell us soon I suspect. Thank you, Jim On 10/6/07, Lisa Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm a new Legacy user and have noticed some of the names I imported are

Re: [LegacyUG] Please take it off list

2007-10-06 Thread agh3rd
Paul, try not to pre-judge it. The learning curve can be as easy or as difficult as one wishes to make it, depending primarily on how and how many of the advanced features one uses. It isn't so much can I do but rather which way should I The customization and flexibility of the

Re: [LegacyUG] same sex relationships

2007-10-06 Thread TH
At least we see where you stand. I suspected it was a rigid Legacy policy. So the bigots win again. On 10/6/07, Sherry/Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem is not the topic of how to enter same-sex relationships per se. The problem is that this topic gets very heated amongst the users

Re: [LegacyUG] Please take it off list -- IT'S A LEGITMATE QUERY, FOLKS!

2007-10-06 Thread The Mathesons
Well put, Sara. My thoughts exactly. Posts as to how to use Legacy to record these events are legitimate and on Topic Posts/discussions as to the pros and cons of these events are off Topic and as such these discussions should be off list!! Jennie Matheson - Original Message -

RE: [LegacyUG] Please take it off list -- IT'S A LEGITMATE QUERY, FOLKS!

2007-10-06 Thread Dave
Maybe I'm missing something but I don't understand what there is to discuss. It's been said many, many times that this list is only for discussion of the Legacy software and its add-on's.Legacy Support has stated that it currently isn't a feature, probably won't be for some time and has

Re: [LegacyUG] source label color

2007-10-06 Thread Pat Hickin
Thanks, Kay, that was a big help. -- Pat From the Family View, I click as follows: Options Customize Colors At the Text Colors line, I click on contents, I choose purple, I click on Save in the lower left of the window. But when I return to the family view all the text and field titles are

Re: [LegacyUG] Foster children

2007-10-06 Thread Tracy Skegg
Thanks for the different views. My aunt was between partners when she fostered this child, so I've ended up with a new relationship just to add this cousin. Carol - I think you are referring to witness events, at the moment Legacy doesn't support this. Check the archives there have been lots of

Re: [LegacyUG] same sex relationships

2007-10-06 Thread Richard Hallford
Im from Australia. We too have same sex marriages well recognised. I bought Legacy in Feb. The subsription will be due up next Feb. If the programmers find this all too hard, and I can find another Geniology program that deals with it, then there's no reason for me to stick with Legacy. I find it

RE: [LegacyUG] same sex relationships

2007-10-06 Thread Sherry/Support
Legacy doesn't have subscriptions that expire. When you purchase the Deluxe Edition, it's good for the life of the version, with a discount on the purchase price of the next version (as long as you don't skip versions). Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation

Re: [LegacyUG] same sex relationships

2007-10-06 Thread Richard Hallford
Sorry, your quite right, what I should have said was, the next upgrade I have to pay for will be decision time to change to a program that can deal with this issue. On 10/7/07, Sherry/Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Legacy doesn't have subscriptions that expire. When you purchase the Deluxe

Re: [LegacyUG] same sex relationships

2007-10-06 Thread Jim Keener
Sherry, I think every one's been quite patient with these people. This same thing seems to pop up every few weeks. I think this is an excellent UG and most people here are patient and courteous and tolerant. I hope this stops soon. This is a place to learn and share about the Legacy program.

RE: [LegacyUG] Foster children

2007-10-06 Thread familyjesse
Stacey, Thank you. I did put some things under marriage. It may be the best way to go . Thanks, Carol -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stacey Connella Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 3:45 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com