[LUTE] Re: Repertoire questions

2015-11-02 Thread Sean Smith
Hi Peter, There are the divisions on vocal repertory from the latter half of the 16th century. Either lute or organ could play the original chanson and the other could take the fancy bits. The London Pro Musica editions work nicely - for example #13, Divisions on Vestiva i colli (Palestrina),

[LUTE] Re: Repertoire questions

2015-11-02 Thread Sean Smith
Yes. On Nov 2, 2015, at 2:06 PM, Peter Kwasniewski wrote: Is this the one you are referring to -- [1]http://www.earlymusicshop.com/product.aspx/en-GB/1095936-girolamo-da lla-casa-and-giovanni-bassano-divisions Peter On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Sean Smith <[2]lutesm...@mac.

[LUTE] Re: Violin and lute.

2015-10-12 Thread Sean Smith
Variations on Anchor che col partir, Suzanne un jour and other pop songs by Bassano, Bovicelli and dalla Casa (do I have that last name right?). These are somewhat in the virtuoso range and will keep him on his toes. LPM publications are your friend. Sean On Oct 12, 2015, at 7:46 PM,

[LUTE] Re: Thumb-over

2015-10-02 Thread Sean Smith
That's a good observation, Bruno. The string tied to two buttons on the bowl (as was my vandervogl) would not have been visible if it was only attached to a shirt button or hook (tho I doubt that would be the case in all these images). My question is - if a strap isn't being used and the left

[LUTE] Re: Thumb-over

2015-10-01 Thread Sean Smith
I don't know if this supports the thumb-over idea - in Germanic countries or otherwise - but my old Vandervogl lute/guitar had an exceptionally slender neck which naturally facilitated the wrap-around thumb. It was more parabolic, too, iirc. There wasn't any place to put my left thumb except

[LUTE] Re: Taylor Swift

2015-09-02 Thread Sean Smith
Here’s a start, Joe: http://www.ukulele-tabs.com/uke-songs/foreigner/juke-box-hero-uke-tab-40847.html Now if you lute players would just tune your lutes like ukes you’d have all the modern music you need and then some. Sean On Sep 2, 2015, at 1:57 PM, Mayes, Joseph wrote:

[LUTE] Re: Lute Strap

2015-07-27 Thread Sean Smith
Hi Herbert, When I'm playing and wearing the strap, its pull is about 35 degrees away from the line of the neck (to the bridge). If you were looking straight at the belly, the strings would pull away to the left, to the rear and at an acute angle to the neck. The strings, after they bend

[LUTE] Re: Lute Strap

2015-07-23 Thread Sean Smith
Granted I'm not a luthier but the weight of the lute being pulled from the side - even from the furthermost pegs - is not more than the weight of the lute. A smaller gluing surface of bridge-to-belly withstands the many pounds of strings trying to pull the bridge off. Amazing stuff, hide glue.

[LUTE] Re: Lute Strap

2015-07-22 Thread Sean Smith
Charles I keep an eye out at Goodwills and other used clothing stores for a useful belt. Years ago I found the perfect Marks Spencer for a couple of bucks and modified it for the lute strap. You certainly don't want any metal bits bobbling around in the case. I use two dark laces coming off

[LUTE] Re: Addendum

2015-07-21 Thread Sean Smith
Indeed, Ron, many thanks from all of us. I wasn't here for its genesis but it has been a daily part of my life since about 2000. Amazing to think how much I've learned and all the people I've met! Sean ps Are we depriving a commercial listserver a living by flocking to this free daily

[LUTE] Re: Addendum

2015-07-21 Thread Sean Smith
Hi Ron, I didn't mean to troll you. I see the differences in the situations. Yes, this list is a good thing and if the kindness of certain individuals pre-empts a predatory practice _and_ supports a great thing like world-wide lutey friendship then something is right in this corner of the

[LUTE] Re: Pickledherring Lute Book Upside-down pages

2015-07-06 Thread Sean Smith
That's just silly, Howard. The inversion was a desperate device to prevent thumb-under players from becoming thumb-over players. They saw the handwriting on the wall and were willing to try anything at that point. On Jul 6, 2015, at 8:15 AM, howard posner wrote: On Jul 6, 2015, at 3:05 AM,

[LUTE] Re: Paduane in Triple Time

2015-07-04 Thread Sean Smith
This song/dance is more a brawl in 3/8. It's got plenty of verses so it invites a bit of variation. Here's the Baltimore Consort rising to the occasion. https://youtu.be/EBC9ldiS2oM Sean On Jul 4, 2015, at 9:10 AM, Stephen Fryer wrote: On 04/07/2015 6:34 AM, Edward Chrysogonus Yong wrote:

[LUTE] Re: What is a classic lute quartet?

2015-06-07 Thread Sean Smith
Who makes a decent, reasonably priced octave lute in d these days? I have a 40cm 6c from M.Haycock of his own design from '92. The body is deeper than the Venere model (half-circle body and neck) and the pegbox is at a 90-degree angle. It's on my pic on the Lute.ning page and I'm quite

[LUTE] Re: dedillo vs. figueta

2015-05-25 Thread Sean Smith
It's interesting to compare the two and thanks for putting them both against the music. Personally, I like your playing without the dedillo as the run becomes a little clearer and fits better with the nature of the rest of the piece. I'm not sure of purpose of dedillo in Milan's approach. Is

[LUTE] Re: Off to the Baroque

2015-05-22 Thread Sean Smith
OK, I'm so sorry to hear you're leaving like this - and on a public forum, too! Was it something I said? Too many inner voices, maybe? We had such fun together! I'll always be here for you! xoxo, The Renaissance. On May 22, 2015, at 8:18 AM, Omer Katzir wrote: Guitar - Check Renaissance

[LUTE] Re: Off to the Baroque

2015-05-22 Thread Sean Smith
in the period. Except, of course, for those unfortunate saps living during the saddest of all periods: The Kanye West Age of 2015. Best, Baroque Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone At May 22, 2015, 2:44:40 PM, Sean Smith wrote: OK, I'm so sorry to hear you're leaving like this - and on a public forum

[LUTE] Gut string diameters

2015-05-18 Thread Sean Smith
In buying and using our lute strings we place an awful lot of faith in our micrometers. I see people changing strings for going up or down a tone or even a semitone. Yes, I think I can feel the tension change and hear it to some degree but we're often talking a difference of microns in string

[LUTE] Re: Gut string diameters

2015-05-18 Thread Sean Smith
bigger or smaller strings from each bundle. M On 18/05/2015 21:18, Sean Smith wrote: In buying and using our lute strings we place an awful lot of faith in our micrometers. I see people changing strings for going up or down a tone or even a semitone. Yes, I think I can feel the tension

[LUTE] Re: 1st inversion F chord - was Re: Michael Fink's split 4th article

2015-05-14 Thread Sean Smith
This must be that modern digital enhancement I've been hearing about. On May 14, 2015, at 9:30 AM, David van Ooijen wrote: Great idea! You play your thing and I stand next to you and lend a finger when needed. David A -- To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: Michael Fink's split 4th article

2015-05-14 Thread Sean Smith
these just go with the territory. A 4-course instrument is quite limited and the music just has to be arranged in a way that it can be played. You just have to get used to it. Things were very different in the 16th century. Regards Monica - Original Message - From: Sean Smith lutesm

[LUTE] Michael Fink's split 4th article

2015-05-14 Thread Sean Smith
chords in some keys. It just isn't necessary to go to such length. I think people should be more careful in the way that they evaluate their information... Monica - Original Message - From: Sean Smith lutesm...@mac.com To: lute lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 1

[LUTE] Re: Vihuela Stringing

2015-05-12 Thread Sean Smith
There may be reason to rethink the splitting of the 4th course in renaissance guitar technique. In the December 2012 LSA Quarterly, Michael Fink has strongly argued for playing the octave seperately in the lowest course of the renaissance guitar under cetain circumstances and for certain

[LUTE] Re: Spain vs. Italy

2015-05-04 Thread Sean Smith
That's what I'm thinking, too. The very first piece in Dalza's book is the Caldibi Castigliano and it certainly points to a refined and complex idiom unlike anything else in his Ferrerese or Venetiana dance cycles. Sean On May 4, 2015, at 9:52 AM, Gary Boye wrote: A word of caution here:

[LUTE] Re: Lutes and Pitchforks

2015-04-27 Thread Sean Smith
Were they the same 4 that recommended Chesterfield cigarettes? If that's their best pitch I think I'll just go with a tuning spoon. s On Apr 27, 2015, at 1:16 PM, Leah Baranov wrote: 4 out of 5 dentists recommend trident to their patients who chew gum... On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 1:55 PM,

[LUTE] Re: 19c theorbo?

2015-03-17 Thread Sean Smith
19 courses? At this point I'm imagining a thumb harp with a fret board at one end for a few strings. s On Mar 17, 2015, at 8:33 AM, Dan Winheld wrote: Always shaking my head, rolling my eyes, and counting all those upper pegbox pegs when the pics or the subject of the 19 course chromatic

[LUTE] Re: Neusidler

2015-02-21 Thread Sean Smith
II] =?1586/5,No. 34 [similar embellishment] (13-13v) Per su hospitiboschi: I A.4. Voce di Constanze festa [unicum] On 02/19/15, Sean Smith[1]lutesm...@mac.com wrote: One more source, Dan: Bayerische Staatsbibliothek, Mus. Ms 266. It's reachable through the LSA facsimile source

[LUTE] Re: Neusidler

2015-02-19 Thread Sean Smith
One more source, Dan: Bayerische Staatsbibliothek, Mus. Ms 266. It's reachable through the LSA facsimile source site, http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~lsa/links/Digital-Facsimiles.html You'll find the MNeusidler intabulations in the first few folios. I believe they are copied from his books. I

[LUTE] Re: End of democracy in Great Britain?

2015-01-19 Thread Sean Smith
On Jan 19, 2015, at 3:56 PM, Ron Andrico wrote: Since I am otherwise writhing in maximum discomfort (many in the American lute world wil be pleased to know), Pleased? I hereby renounce any real, feigned or imagined membership in that (hopefully small-to-nonexistant) group! Best

[LUTE] Re: Introduction to early music

2014-12-08 Thread Sean Smith
Dalza dances are pleasant with a bit of swing that engages the ear. And there are a few frottole in the Dalza book for seeing early songs. Haraytre is perhaps the easiest of Spinacino's late Burgundian settings (book II) and is fairly short in a comfortable key. A little later (20 years or

[LUTE] Re: Narvaez

2014-12-07 Thread Sean Smith
6c rox. Welcome to our end of town. Sean On Dec 6, 2014, at 11:38 PM, sterling price wrote: Hi all--Can someone direct me to an English translation of the instructions in the first book of Delphin de Musica of Narvaez? Yes, I know it is hard to believe but I recently got a nice

[LUTE] Re: Lute iconography in pop-culture parody

2014-12-04 Thread Sean Smith
Humor in; seriousness out. A musician whose stock rose considerably on a parody arrangement of a chanson from Michael Jackson's 3rd(?) book of ayres entitled Eat it. We've seen this sort of thing before. s On Dec 4, 2014, at 10:16 AM, Edward Martin wrote: Tongue up. Sent from my iPhone

[LUTE] Re: Crochet hooks.

2014-11-29 Thread Sean Smith
I found a little hook tool for electronics at Harbor Freight Tools. A couple of bucks and it, too, is very helpful. How did your experiments go at getting the string to slide easily over the nut? Sean On Nov 29, 2014, at 8:19 AM, Herbert Ward wrote: The last time I changed strings, I had a

[LUTE] Re: Technique for friction at the nut.

2014-11-19 Thread Sean Smith
on to them- boxer shorts can't contain them- but lutenists LOVE them SLIPPERY NUTS! On 11/11/2014 8:14 AM, Sean Smith wrote: Hi Herbert, I have never heard of this problem on the 4th course with gut so I'll assume you use metal wound strings. I'll admit it's an assumption

[LUTE] Re: Technique for friction at the nut.

2014-11-19 Thread Sean Smith
There is evidence JD sometimes borrowed Lady Clifton's Sprite. [backs cautiously towards door] On Nov 19, 2014, at 12:05 PM, Geoff Gaherty wrote: On 2014-11-19, 1:52 PM, Sean Smith wrote: *comparison for our purposes; metaphor if John Milton had had an MG. That reminds me of the bad joke I

[LUTE] Re: Technique for friction at the nut.

2014-11-11 Thread Sean Smith
Hi Herbert, I have never heard of this problem on the 4th course with gut so I'll assume you use metal wound strings. I'll admit it's an assumption that could be false or you may be using a plastic of some sort. It would be helpful to know in any event. Using a string made up of coils that

[LUTE] Re: Technique for friction at the nut.

2014-11-11 Thread Sean Smith
For the record, Herbert, what are the materials of your nut and strings in question? Sean On Nov 11, 2014, at 12:46 AM, Herbert Ward wrote: The bent-back pegbox means that a lute has 7.5 times as much friction at the nut as a guitar, taking angles of 10 degrees for the guitar and 80 for

[LUTE] Re: more on the liuto attiorbato

2014-10-18 Thread Sean Smith
Hi Martin, That's a nice essay on the instrument. Thanks for championing the doubled courses - and the doubled top course. (I have a doubled chanterelle on my bass lute and do appreciate it.) And it's a stunning lute! I was not able to play the Piccininni for some reason. I tried it in two

[LUTE] Re: Problems with new nylgut string on top course

2014-09-04 Thread Sean Smith
Hi Simon, I also went through 2 or 3 strings on my learning curve with nng. I had always used a .42mm gut or [old] n.g.* and tried the same with n.n.g. No go. I went to .39 and found satisfaction. You might have to go down to .37 or .38 Be sure the string doesn't wipe all the lubrication (if

[LUTE] Re: Problems with new nylgut string on top course

2014-09-04 Thread Sean Smith
Chris speaks truth. Take it up in stages. Leave it for a day at E or F before going up to G. Swapping to a new ng or nng string is not something you do on stage! Sean On Sep 4, 2014, at 9:53 AM, Christopher Stetson wrote: Dear Simon and Listers, I don't have nylgut on my lute, but

[LUTE] Re: Problems with new nylgut string on top course

2014-09-04 Thread Sean Smith
, 2014, at 12:03 PM, Sean Smith lutesm...@mac.com wrote: Chris speaks truth. Take it up in stages. Leave it for a day at E or F before going up to G. Swapping to a new ng or nng string is not something you do on stage! Sean On Sep 4, 2014, at 9:53 AM, Christopher Stetson wrote

[LUTE] Re: Seven courses versus eight.

2014-08-20 Thread Sean Smith
As far as I know, relatively few pieces were written for an 8-c lute. (Sorry, I know there are some but forget who specified exactly 8-courses) Many pieces were written for a 7-c where the lowest note was either an F or a D starting with Adriaenssen and the Siena ms. in the 1580's and

[LUTE] Re: Bare spot on soundboard.

2014-08-04 Thread Sean Smith
As Nancy's sometime dueting partner, let me just say that I appreciate them, too. Sean On Aug 4, 2014, at 10:25 AM, Nancy Carlin wrote: About the pegs - guitar tuning pegs would be so heavy that the instruments would be listing toward the left in our laps. Fortunately the Peghead people

[LUTE] Re: those Pegheadz!

2014-08-04 Thread Sean Smith
Hi Tobias, Despite holding it upside down, Hendrix did adhere to a lot of standard techniques of electric guitar playing. His rendition of a certain repurposed English glee song was more an experiment in melody and feedback (and propriety) than technique in my opinion. Be that as it may -

[LUTE] Re: those Pegheadz!

2014-08-04 Thread Sean Smith
brought the tenor voice into the -- hang on, did I park the car in a legal space? Sean On Aug 4, 2014, at 5:36 PM, Tobiah wrote: That was fun Sean thanks. You have a great ability to express yourself keeping the reader int mind. Tobiah On 8/4/2014 5:11 PM, Sean Smith wrote: Hi Tobias

[LUTE] Re: Appropriateness of play list

2014-06-21 Thread Sean Smith
Hi Edward, Negri and Caroso are excellent sources and should easily keep you covered for two 30 minute sets. Feel free to play the repeats with a couple of extra passing tones here and there. All are quite playable, Italian and enjoyable. Many are quite easy, to boot. Additionally, there

[LUTE] Re: Buffons/Pantalons in 3

2014-05-21 Thread Sean Smith
thank you Jean-Michel. It's a very pretty piece and I'll consider it. Sean On May 21, 2014, at 12:21 AM, jean-michel Catherinot wrote: http://www.gerbode.net/composers/Ballard/pdf/53_courante_06.pdf Why not? Le Mercredi 21 mai 2014 6h43, Sean Smith lutesm...@mac.com a ecrit : Dear

[LUTE] Buffons/Pantalons in 3

2014-05-20 Thread Sean Smith
Dear friends, I'm looking for a courante in F in the I - IV - V - I chord sequence as an intro or interlude to Aux plaisirs, aux delice bergeres. I could probably scrunch the Vallet Pantalons into 3 if I needed to but I'm hoping there's a Dutch or French (or...) courante that's already out

[LUTE] Re: 5c

2014-04-20 Thread Sean Smith
What is this Northern Renaissance, Rob? Sean On Apr 19, 2014, at 11:05 PM, Rob MacKillop wrote: Thanks for the replies. I hadn't given much thought to using a quill, seeing it as more of a 4c lute technique, but I realise I am wrong in that. Both techniques were used on the 5c. I like

[LUTE] Re: 5c

2014-04-20 Thread Sean Smith
, that the Renaissance started in Italy, and then spread northwards. I did an Oxford University online course on the subject, and found it very interesting. Just type the term into Amazon, and see what comes up.A Rob On 20 April 2014 07:12, Sean Smith [1]lutesm...@mac.com wrote: What is this Northern

[LUTE] Re: 5c

2014-04-19 Thread Sean Smith
Hi Rob, Crawford Young has a trick of playing w/ a quill and he's able to use a few other fingers now and then. That may work for the noodles over tenor recipe that was popular. Eg, the spagna, Comme femme and De tous biens (from Segovia) as well as earlier sources from the Buxheimer and

[LUTE] Re: Frottola, Tromboncino, Sorini

2014-04-04 Thread Sean Smith
I agree, Roman. I can more readily imagine this as a renaissance performance in a small chamber than our modern stage and audience set-up. It feels intimate and he builds on it nicely. Sean On Apr 4, 2014, at 8:38 AM, Roman Turovsky wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNmeGzjK6Ic A

[LUTE] Re: Frottola, Tromboncino, Sorini

2014-04-04 Thread Sean Smith
Goober's a pleasant little beast, Dan. I'd love to see more experimentation among builders and buyers in this early transitional phase. (Of course then we'd have to play - and listen to - more Spinacino, Petrucci and Capirola and that's a tough sell - why izzat??) They can't all have

[LUTE] Re: Luciano Faria CITES documentation

2014-03-24 Thread Sean Smith
Carrying that instrument across international borders that enforce those regulations will be difficult, if not impossible. On Mar 24, 2014, at 12:18 PM, Tobiah wrote: On 03/24/2014 11:57 AM, Dmitry Medvedev wrote: Hello, I own a vihuela made by Luciano Faria in 2006. Unfortunately,

[LUTE] Aux plaisirs, aux delices

2014-03-19 Thread Sean Smith
Dear lutefolk, Could some kind soul lead me to an online facsimile of Guedron's air, 'Aux plaisirs, aux delices' online - or share a tabb'd version for the lute part and voice? I have a piano reduction but not the time to intabulate it. Many thanks, Sean To get on or off this list see

[LUTE] Re: Aux plaisirs, aux delices

2014-03-19 Thread Sean Smith
Mystery cleared up. Mine is from Echos de France 1890 - on the web - and who knows what's been done to it. I'll hopefully persuade my singer back to the original. Thanks folks! Sean On Mar 19, 2014, at 12:12 PM, Bernd Haegemann wrote: Could some kind soul lead me to an online

[LUTE] Re: Ornamental Lutes

2014-03-17 Thread Sean Smith
Don't discount, too, the usefulness of a table. It _does_ help in the forward projection and, moreover, in the ringing of the basses. When a string vibrates, the lute absorbs that vibration in a contrary motion. No matter how you pluck the string it will want to vibrate in

[LUTE] Re: Ornamental Lutes

2014-03-17 Thread Sean Smith
must do so by necessity, such as bassists or percussionists). Chris Dr. Christopher Wilke D.M.A. Lutenist, Guitarist and Composer www.christopherwilke.com On Mon, 3/17/14, Sean Smith lutesm...@mac.com wrote: Subject: [LUTE] Re: Ornamental Lutes

[LUTE] Re: How to cut fret shims.

2014-02-09 Thread Sean Smith
Word, brother, Amen. That 'new fret' sound is worth its weight in gold. Just replaced mine Friday and I'm a happy camper again. Actual replacement per fret goes pretty quickly but assembling all the tools, finding my notes and gauges, etc can take the time*. For years I just used a match

[LUTE] Re: How to cut fret shims.

2014-02-09 Thread Sean Smith
I've often heard this but I'm always afraid of creating a pair of flat surfaces on the remaining gut that may not help on the _next_ fret off that spool. To those of you out there who use the hemostats, has this ever been an issue? I maybe be lucky in that I've got enough taper

[LUTE] Re: How to cut fret shims.

2014-02-09 Thread Sean Smith
A good point, Sterling. I've rotated frets many times in the past w/ different lutes. If I had a little more freeboard at the edge of the fingerboard and a larger radius chamfer at the edge I could probably make that work. As it is, the right angle bend in the fret (larger ones

[LUTE] Re: How to cut fret shims.

2014-02-09 Thread Sean Smith
Indeedaroody. They make good markers, too. Nothing like looking over at a delicate moment and seeing a blur of 20-odd frets. Sean Sent from my iPotato On Feb 9, 2014, at 6:51 PM, John Lenti wrote: Thin guitar picks slid under frets are dynamite shims. Also wadded paper. Many's the

[LUTE] Re: Loaner for smashed lute

2014-01-14 Thread Sean Smith
this = the smashing or this = the story? On Jan 14, 2014, at 10:14 AM, Herbert Ward wrote: I heard a story about a well-known guitarist who opened his case to find the soundboard deliberately smashed. [This] was from one of his students. To get on or off this list see list

[LUTE] Re: Phalese stopping strings?

2014-01-03 Thread Sean Smith
Dear theoj89294, It's my understanding that they represent instances of let this note ring. In nearly all cases it helps the voice-leading in the polyphony or keeps a bass note going until the next chord change. One finds this practice in many previous lute books (though not all), such

[LUTE] Re: Phalese stopping strings

2014-01-03 Thread Sean Smith
, a representation of a piece of music on one sheet of paper (try reading simultaneously from four partbooks and you'll see what I mean) rather than a simple set of instructions on how to place the fingers. With best wishes to all for 2014, Martin On 03/01/2014 19:24, Sean Smith wrote: Dear theoj89294

[LUTE] Re: Photograph/painting

2013-12-27 Thread Sean Smith
That's an interesting angle on the top surface of the pegbox, too. I don't know why I expect right angles, though. Are there old lutes with that shape at the end of the pegbox? They definitely dialed that lighting effect in well! Sean On Dec 27, 2013, at 1:40 PM, David Hill wrote: As a

[LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... I just noticed

2013-12-18 Thread Sean Smith
Often the choice of a few of this or that is to stimulate the listener/ player to search out more. If those who hear it just assume those are the ones to be played and revering only those then we end up, in a sense, worshiping the finger that points the way. I know, it couldn't happen in

[LUTE] Re: Belin [etc]

2013-12-18 Thread Sean Smith
Thank you for pointing these out, Rainer. This looks like nearly all the lute output from the publisher Fezandat except for his run of books by Albert de Rippe. Sean To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Question on String Tension

2013-12-17 Thread Sean Smith
Dear David, I'm kind of slow in the math department but in my experience low tensions strings _are_ more difficult to tune. When you get close to the breaking point - ok, and just a bit shy of almost there - they find that sweet spot rather nicely and you get a fine action around the

[LUTE] Re: Mille Regretz?

2013-12-17 Thread Sean Smith
Dear trj, There's one in Pierre Phalese 1545 (Iirc, it's set by Hans Gerle although like most other Phalese, attributions are lacking) http://digirep.rhul.ac.uk/items/c311b9e8-4eec-3f28-f07c-4338ada80023/1/ There's another anonymous setting in Phalese 1552 Hortus Musarum (it appears

[LUTE] Re: Segovia and Pujol (was Bream Collection.)

2013-12-16 Thread Sean Smith
The Respighi was pretty popular among the easy listening/classical crowd in the 70's; eg., restaurant rotation. My dad had it on 8-track. He also had some Segovia records but we weren't allowed to touch those. Sean On Dec 16, 2013, at 6:38 AM, Chris Barker wrote: I think that possibly

[LUTE] Re: Segovia and Pujol (was Bream Collection.)

2013-12-16 Thread Sean Smith
heading in that direction again. What's new is old again! Sean On Dec 16, 2013, at 7:05 AM, Sean Smith wrote: The Respighi was pretty popular among the easy listening/classical crowd in the 70's; eg., restaurant rotation. My dad had it on 8-track. He also had some Segovia records but we

[LUTE] Segovia and Pujol (was Bream Collection…) and now what?

2013-12-16 Thread Sean Smith
What? No love for Frederick Noad's, The Renaissance Guitar? That's where I found my first breath of fresh airs. Guess I'm a dated 70's man. Ain't got time for disco, babe, gotta make Holborne fit on my geetar. Then I saw Roger Harmon play his Zanetti at the local 17th century music hall

[LUTE] Segovia and Pujol (was Bream Collection…) and now what?

2013-12-16 Thread Sean Smith
Whoa, Parallel universe! It got me wondering at the time what the magic rule was for where the third should be. Later, when I got an actual renaissance guitar and saw the x begets y begets z timeline it made sense what happened. Sean On Dec 16, 2013, at 9:19 AM, Tobiah wrote:

[LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... I just noticed

2013-12-15 Thread Sean Smith
That's interesting, Chris. What part of the string would get repaired? Would that be a gut string? If it's not too much trouble may I ask you to scan that page for me. I confess, it's pure curiosity. Sean On Dec 15, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Chris Barker wrote: Emilio Pujol was a fine teacher

[LUTE] Re: Nails and lute playing

2013-12-11 Thread Sean Smith
recovering, and Barrios was simply one of those first rediscoveries. Best, Eugene -Original Message- From: [3]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:[4]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Christopher Wilke Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 9:04 AM To: Sean Smith; lute

[LUTE] Re: Nails and lute playing

2013-12-11 Thread Sean Smith
, Sean Smith wrote: I realize the guitar was strung in gut before nylon's appearance. Should I assume it had thicker diameters and higher tensions (?) than the lute strings of KR and JB - that is, if I understand Allan's note correctly that they played gut-strung lutes? Their lutes were post

[LUTE] Re: Nails and lute playing

2013-12-11 Thread Sean Smith
told me that they are absolutely amazing. About Pyramid strings, i can tell you that tension is approx. 6,6 kg, and gauges included are: e' - 0,60 mm h - 0,79 mm h - 0,97 mm d - 0,82 mm A - 0,98 mm E - 1,23 mm All in gut, as you can see. Regards. 2013/12/11 Sean Smith [1

[LUTE] Re: music slowing software?

2013-12-10 Thread Sean Smith
Dear theoj89294, I use the Vox player on my mac for playing music files. It has an option for slowing down playback but you may have to save the track to your hard drive from the CD first. You can also download the free music editor Audacity and slow down tracks and save them. Sean

[LUTE] Nails and lute playing

2013-12-10 Thread Sean Smith
Since there appear to be lute players who use nails - a club I haven't joined and now I'm curious - I wonder if there are there people who use all gut and nails. Could they tell us their experience on how it affects the the life of the strings? Do they [the strings] wear excessively? Do

[LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... I just noticed

2013-12-10 Thread Sean Smith
If things weren't like they were, they'd be different! s On Dec 10, 2013, at 5:58 PM, Tom Draughon wrote: With Viagra he may have had more! Tom Draughon Heartistry Music http://www.heartistry.com Sent from my iPhone 715-682-9362 On Dec 10, 2013, at 7:36 PM, Bruno Correia

[LUTE] Re: Nails and lute playing

2013-12-10 Thread Sean Smith
Just to be sure, he used nails on _gut_? Ragossinig, too? When I played those records in my childhood I always assumed they were nylon strings. When would JB and KR have moved to nylon? Sean On Dec 10, 2013, at 6:21 PM, Allan Alexander wrote: Sean Bream used nails, so I guess it

[LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... I just noticed

2013-12-10 Thread Sean Smith
Dear Joseph, You wrote, Because the stars do it one way - that's the right way. Regardless where the dogma is, I think your cart's mis-attached to my horse. As I understand how it came about for me: A: The history tells us something. B: The stars try it out. C: I like the aesthetic. D: I

[LUTE] Re: Nails and lute playing

2013-12-10 Thread Sean Smith
: Regarding nails on gut strings--even people like Segovia used nails on gut for decades. I like those early recordings of modern guitars strung with gut. I think nylon strings came about after WWII. Sterling On Tuesday, December 10, 2013 7:46 PM, Sean Smith lutesm...@mac.com wrote: Just

[LUTE] Re: Nails and lute playing

2013-12-10 Thread Sean Smith
Mangore had to use steel strings, as the greater part of his life and work was in South America- no place for gut! Segovia, who resented Barrios for most of his life, said that Barrios' Steel Fence upset him. Dan On 12/10/2013 9:30 PM, Sean Smith wrote: I realize the guitar was strung in gut

[LUTE] Personal interpretations -was Pass

2013-12-09 Thread Sean Smith
Dear all, Thank you for the Joe Pass suggestions. Jaw-droppingly fluid and rich. It also got me thinking how jazz standards and renaissance vocal works evolve in the instrumental sphere. Quite clearly, the personal reworkings of old established songs is a great tradition. For example,

[LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... I just noticed

2013-12-09 Thread Sean Smith
Dear Martin, As I see Ernesto's argument, the lute and modern ears would be better served by using it as some sort of tool or component in modern music. 21 century music is what gets his attention and holds it. Is that right? Is there a new golden age for lute just around the corner if we

[LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... I just noticed

2013-12-09 Thread Sean Smith
P.S. Just don't get me started on ukelele strings... On 09/12/2013 18:41, Sean Smith wrote: Dear Martin, As I see Ernesto's argument, the lute and modern ears would be better served by using it as some sort of tool or component in modern music. 21 century music is what gets his attention

[LUTE] Personal interpretations -was Pass

2013-12-09 Thread Sean Smith
reality of the instrument and draw on their own sensibility and background to do that. I think personally this is the fun part of it all. Alain On 12/09/2013 01:01 AM, Sean Smith wrote: Dear all, Thank you for the Joe Pass suggestions. Jaw-droppingly fluid and rich. It also got me thinking

[LUTE] Re: Articles Needed

2013-11-26 Thread Sean Smith
Graham, As I see it, Stewart and others spent many hours - months, rather - assembling a lot of information into 70 pages of large format and small typeface in the additional critical volume. There are also the many many pages they painstakingly pored over in the original ms. to

[LUTE] Re: Articles Needed

2013-11-26 Thread Sean Smith
discussion of actual need, purpose and such would be in order? On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Sean Smith [1]lutesm...@mac.com wrote: Graham, As I see it, Stewart and others spent many hours - months, rather - assembling a lot of information into 70 pages of large format and small typeface

[LUTE] Re: Squarcialupi Codex

2013-11-16 Thread Sean Smith
Does your friend have deep pockets? OMI in New York appears to have it on their website ... listed at 2400 Euros but call for their special price. http://www.omifacsimiles.com/brochures/squar.html Sean On Nov 16, 2013, at 2:09 PM, co...@medievalist.org wrote: Dear Collected Wisdom, I

[LUTE] Re: Best body fret material?

2013-10-31 Thread Sean Smith
A good point, Bill, and I don't think I've seen any body frets (old or new lutes) with body frets for the bass notes. There are pieces that do, however, call for an 'l' on the 6th course. ...usually that dreaded F chord w/ that passing tone up from the 'h' on the 6th course. If my

[LUTE] Re: Best body fret material?

2013-10-30 Thread Sean Smith
Definitely rounded. I can't see how you'd shape them down in place on the belly so knock them off and make new ones. Tonewise, I don't think the material makes a significant difference but they'll sound a lot nicer when they are rounded. Much like the effect when you trade those old

[LUTE] Re: Capo and meantone

2013-10-29 Thread Sean Smith
Hi Leonard, I should think a capo --in theory, anyway-- could work at most any fret; just adjust your frets accordingly in The Pattern. (You'll miss out on that tastino goodness unless you can fashion one to stick down where you need it but I think Dan Winheld had a trick for that, too)

[LUTE] Re: Capo and meantone

2013-10-29 Thread Sean Smith
- string 14 fret neck guitar. Again, equal temperament- which sounds horrible on steel strings once you've had a good meantone experience. Dan On 10/29/2013 5:50 PM, Sean Smith wrote: Hi Leonard, I should think a capo --in theory, anyway-- could work at most any fret; just adjust your frets

[LUTE] Re: Capo and meantone

2013-10-29 Thread Sean Smith
to pry or knock them off when necessary. In 1/2 hour it has set enough to gently try out the frets. Dan On 10/29/2013 7:02 PM, Sean Smith wrote: Dan, I was referring to a fletching adhesive that I think you suggested for a tastino. Ring a bell ...perhaps with pure overtones

[LUTE] Re: Online Tuner

2013-09-08 Thread Sean Smith
I have the Strobe Tuner from Katsura Shareware on my Macs (OS 10.3 onward). $15 http://www.katsurashareware.com/strobe/strobe.html The Cleartune app for iOS (and Android) is cheaper and more portable. Just remember to turn it off after you tune. Both can be transposed to the Do of your

[LUTE] Re: Liuto forte etc.

2013-08-23 Thread Sean Smith
It's an interesting trend and I don't know what to make of it, Dan. A few years ago I went to a concert of a well-known poster on this list and the Francesco pieces were played on an 8-c lute and the Dowland on a single strung archlute. It could easily be argued this was standard practice

[LUTE] Re: Liuto forte

2013-08-23 Thread Sean Smith
I understand that, Bill: It's hard to keep a stable of correct instruments for any given time and it's also up to the player to choose his sound and presentation. Furthermore, who am I to judge? But there is this underlying drumbeat of future instrument creep that I find confusing. It's

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