Re: [MBZ] Seeking inertia reel seatbelts W108/114/115

2008-02-28 Thread Hendrik & Fay
Don't know about over there but in Oz the law has changed and anyone selling second hand seat belts is legally liable if they fail in an accident, as such it is becoming hard to find s/h seat belts. Hendrik David Bruckmann wrote: > Does anybody have a good set of inertia reel seatbelts from a W

Re: [MBZ] Bouncy speedo needle and wonky cruise in the 300TE

2008-02-28 Thread Hendrik & Fay
Just a bit too much coincidence for my liking, this is the first and only time that the needle bounced in that car and the first and only time that the cruise even remotely worked. I just want to know how the speedo and hall sensor interact, is it via a magnet or electrical connection? I found a

[MBZ] ABS question again

2008-02-28 Thread Hendrik & Fay
Unfortunatley the ABS light has come on again, the only thing that I can do without going to a mechanic is to try and clean the rear rotor that feeds information to the rear sensor. As some of you might have read, cleaning the sensors made the light go off for 50K's or so but it is now back agai

[MBZ] ATF Level Question

2008-02-28 Thread Zoltan Finks
Just checked the ATF earlier this evening on the 87 190D and found once again that the stick is dry. I assure you this pains me. But I'm learning just how often I have to add fluid to the leaky tranny. Heaven forefend the wife would ever check it. And I pulled the dipstick again a few minutes ago w

Re: [MBZ] OT: Chickens

2008-02-28 Thread Zoltan Finks
There is something that sounds very satisfying about that arrangement. Though I'm sure it's not without its work and trouble. Then again neither is owning an old car. Brian On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 5:18 AM, Lee Einer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Chickens have multiple benefits, and there is a veri

Re: [MBZ] OT: Chickens

2008-02-28 Thread Zoltan Finks
I was gonna mention the dog angle. I know that some dogs are chicken killers. I suspect my Dobie might be one. In fact I worry that he might be a cat killer. NO, this is not because he has ever killed a cat. It's because I've read in William Koehler's (spelling of name? too lazy to go look it up)

Re: [MBZ] OT: Chickens

2008-02-28 Thread Zoltan Finks
Thanks, Clay for the info! Also a little tidbit that I hear recently from someone who lives here on the Island: She said that there was a tall evergreen tree that fell over. An eagle's nest was found along with numerous cat collars. We do always have an abundance of missing cat posters up around h

Re: [MBZ] Gary / weight

2008-02-28 Thread Zoltan Finks
Weight charts are not very valuable to me. According to them, I'm overweight, but look at me and you know that's not true. I think I'm heavy boned and have bigger lower body than most people. Sometimes hard to find pants that fit - small waist and big legs. So at 5' 9" I go about 170. Overweight th

Re: [MBZ] dinner?

2008-02-28 Thread Zoltan Finks
Yes, I wonder sometimes what it will take to get our dogs to keep from attempting to pull me out into traffic. Funny how they seem to think that a car is harmless, but they will flinch and get out of the way of everything else. I guess it's their total lack of contact with a moving car. But still w

Re: [MBZ] Difference between 400E and E420? (update)

2008-02-28 Thread tom savage
John Robbins wrote: > Well, the tranny will go in reverse, but not forward. I've never heard > of a B2 problem on the W124s, but could I be so lucky? That's a 722.4, right? It does have a B2 piston, albeit a much-upgraded one and failures are rare, but possible. More likely it just needs a n

Re: [MBZ] dinner?

2008-02-28 Thread Jim Cathey
> I did read in one book that to cure a car-chaser, you have someone lob > water > balloons out the window at the chaser. Our german shepherd used to chase _us_ out the driveway and down the road. No amount of yelling or scolding would work, it'd just sit way out there in the field smiling at us

Re: [MBZ] OT: Chickens

2008-02-28 Thread Jim Cathey
> BTW the late Mr. Koehler's solution to a chicken-killing dog is to tie > a > dead chicken around its neck and leave it there for a few weeks or so. > Boy > would that never fly today (again with another unintended pun). We did that once. As I recall it didn't really work. Get rid of the dog,

Re: [MBZ] ATF Level Question

2008-02-28 Thread Jim Cathey
> The reason I ask this is that it is very difficult to achieve a clear > reading on that dipstick. One side will have something approaching a > clear > reading, and the other side will have fluid running half way up the > stick. Another reason I really hate AT's. -- Jim _

Re: [MBZ] ABS question again

2008-02-28 Thread Jim Cathey
> [perhaps] the rotor in the diff has icky stuff all over it and > is not feeding a proper signal. Seems unlikely, given the protected nature of life inside the differential. And oil is no problem, it has to be steel particles in order to cause trouble. That's the nice thing about VR sensors. F

Re: [MBZ] dinner?

2008-02-28 Thread Mitch Haley
> > Our german shepherd used to chase _us_ out the driveway and > down the road. There's a dog which likes to lay in the ditch (for the last 8-10 years) and then race whatever comes along. Never goes into the road. When I drove by the other day, he gave himself a 200 foot head start, didn't wai

Re: [MBZ] Bouncy speedo needle and wonky cruise in the 300TE

2008-02-28 Thread Jim Cathey
> I just want to know how the speedo and hall sensor interact, is it via > a > magnet or electrical connection? I don't think it's a Hall sensor, I think it's another VR sensor that's just mounted on the rear of the speedometer (for cable-driven ones), or a straight electrical tap for electronic

Re: [MBZ] Bouncy speedo needle and wonky cruise in the 300TE

2008-02-28 Thread Jim Cathey
> http://gdl-online.com/testproc.html and all seemed fine See also: http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/JSLcruise.html http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/cwcruise.html http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/SL2log.html#cruise http://userweb.windwireless.net/~ji

Re: [MBZ] W123 Turn Signal Problem

2008-02-28 Thread LarryT
Thx Jim, I pried it up and unplugged it pretty easily. I put Deoxit on the pins and it started working! I didn't disassemble it but it comes out so easily I can always do that and treat the inner contacts with Deoxit - that stuff is *magic*. ;-) It looks like there are some plastic pins hold

Re: [MBZ] ABS question again

2008-02-28 Thread LarryT
Contact cleaner would probably not damage anything and it;s a pretty good cleaner. Is it an optical sensor? Does the glass lens you are cleaning have a light in it? - or is it a target for a light? Just curious - You might be able to find a bottle cleaning brush to push into the hole and cle

Re: [MBZ] W123 Turn Signal Problem

2008-02-28 Thread Jim Cathey
> It looks like there are some plastic pins holding the bottom to the > top - I > guess I can push the pins in & slowly work the bottom cover until it > comes > off. Any springs going to come flying out? Yes. But not too bad, just be careful. Our 380SL obviously had a water leak onto the cente

Re: [MBZ] ABS question again

2008-02-28 Thread Jim Cathey
> Is it an optical sensor? Does the glass lens you are cleaning > have a light in it? - or is it a target for a light? It is the common variable-reluctance sensor, THE most durable and environmentally robust type of RPM sensor made. Nothing but a coil of wire around a metal post, near which a bi

Re: [MBZ] ATF Level Question

2008-02-28 Thread LarryT
You asked < the two marks on the dipstick) with the engine off and cool, how low is > the > transmission on fluid?>> I don't think the engine off method is completely trustworthy but it should be low on the dipstick when checked when the engine is cold & running. The fluid heats and expands as

Re: [MBZ] W123 Turn Signal Problem

2008-02-28 Thread LarryT
You wrote:<> That makes me think my '78 is an early /older car - right? That Hazard flasher was pretty big - and my W123 is pretty early. the vin ends w/050680. Thanks for all the info!! Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results htt

Re: [MBZ] ATF Level Question

2008-02-28 Thread jfreezn
Brian, the whole open area in the transmission will physically only hold about 2 1/2 quarts.? since your leak is probably at the torque converter seal, air is getting in where the oil is leaking out.? This lets the torque converter drain down into the trans case, which it normally doesn't ac

Re: [MBZ] ABS question again

2008-02-28 Thread LarryT
Wow! that defines robust! As far as steel filings, I would think that would be very unlikely unless the rotor was damaged by running the pads too low. I'll bet your suggestion of a connection problem is a good one. Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis an

Re: [MBZ] 400E (update2)

2008-02-28 Thread John Robbins
I think I'm going to pass on it... even if I could negotiate it down to what it should be. The ad has been updated with pics, and I have higher res ones if anyone cares. http://gulfport.craigslist.org/car/587957948.html tom savage wrote: > John Robbins wrote: >> Well, the tranny will go in rev

Re: [MBZ] W123 Turn Signal Problem

2008-02-28 Thread Jim Cathey
> That makes me think my '78 is an early /older car - right? That Hazard > flasher was pretty big - and my W123 is pretty early. If the button pushes down into the body, it's the flasher too. Rocker switches have a separate flasher. -- Jim ___ http://www.oki

Re: [MBZ] W123 Turn Signal Problem

2008-02-28 Thread LarryT
Thx Jim - Yes, mine pushes down into the bottom - simplifies things a bit I think - Thx agn - Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.ren

Re: [MBZ] Seeking inertia reel seatbelts W108/114/115

2008-02-28 Thread David Bruckmann
I'm Canadian and we're not in the habit of suing (the law limits what can be awarded in such cases to a REASONABLE maximum, which means unless there was ACTUAL negligence it won't be worth it), but you raise an interesting point that I hadn't even considered. I also didn't realise that Australia

Re: [MBZ] Seeking inertia reel seatbelts W108/114/115

2008-02-28 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
See the link at the bottom of each message for used parts. I got a box of 'em David Bruckmann wrote: > Does anybody have a good set of inertia reel seatbelts from a W108/W114/W115 > to sell? The magnetic ones in my W108 are driving me and my passengers crazy! > > D. > > __

Re: [MBZ] ATF Level Question

2008-02-28 Thread Harry Watkins
Good stuff Jim, that's a gold star keeper. Harry On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 9:21 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Brian, > > > > the whole open area in the transmission will physically only hold about 2 > 1/2 quarts.? since your leak is probably at the torque converter seal, air > is getting in w

Re: [MBZ] Gas prices hit record high

2008-02-28 Thread R A Bennell
Are you seeing any drop in prices today? I hear on the radio that prices in Toronto have gone down about $0.03 this morning and it should happen accross the country shortly. I am holding off here on filling in the hope that they are correct as the price just went up yesterday. I need to fill but

Re: [MBZ] Seeking inertia reel seatbelts W108/114/115

2008-02-28 Thread R A Bennell
Not sure I agree that "the law limits what can be awarded" in Canada. Part of the issue is that we don't generally have civil jury trials here. We get Judges who are more conservative than juries generally are. The other issue is of course that some jurisdictions, like Manitoba, now have a no f

[MBZ] OT LCD Displays

2008-02-28 Thread Frederick W Moir
Hi, All. My last CRT display died and me and the boss went looking for a new display. Tried Staples, as we were going there for something else, and Joanne's comment was that the LCDs on display seemed to be out of focus. They are not as sharp as my old Dell C610, looked like less depth

Re: [MBZ] Gas prices hit record high

2008-02-28 Thread E M
Regular down .04 a litre here today. Ed 300E On 28/02/2008, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Are you seeing any drop in prices today? I hear on the radio that prices > in Toronto have gone down about $0.03 this > morning and it should happen accross the country shortly. I am holding off

Re: [MBZ] OT LCD Displays

2008-02-28 Thread Rich Thomas
Samsung 1920x1200 resolution, they come in various sizes, and make sure your video card can drive it to that resolution. Also look at contrast ratio -- the cheap ones are like 1000:1, the Samsungs are 3000:1. That makes a big difference. A good TV LCD is now up over 10k:1, maybe higher. --R

Re: [MBZ] Gas prices hit record high

2008-02-28 Thread Dave H...
I just paid $3.49 per gallon for diesel here in SCGrr! $64.00 to fill up to 300CD Dave H... -- From: "E M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 1:31 PM To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gas prices hit

Re: [MBZ] ATF Level Question

2008-02-28 Thread Donald Snook
Jim in Phoenix wrote: "Have you checked the vacuum line to the transmission modulator for signs of oil?? a cracked modulator diaphragm can let trans fluid get sucked into the engine, agravating your fluid loss." That is exactly what happened to my 82 300D. You won't notice it running badly bec

Re: [MBZ] OT LCD Displays

2008-02-28 Thread John Robbins
Frederick W Moir wrote: > My last CRT display died and me and the boss went looking for a new > display. Tried Staples, as we were going there for something else, > and Joanne's comment was that the LCDs on display seemed to be out of > focus. They are not as sharp as my old Dell C610, loo

Re: [MBZ] 400E (update2)

2008-02-28 Thread Donald Snook
John R. wrote: "I think I'm going to pass on it... even if I could negotiate it down to what it should be. The ad has been updated with pics, and I have higher res ones if anyone cares." http://gulfport.craigslist.org/car/587957948.html Have you checked on prices to replace the transmission?

Re: [MBZ] OT: LCD Displays

2008-02-28 Thread Curt Raymond
Pretty common when an LCD is run at a non-native resolution. For instance my 17" Samsung is rated for max 1280x1024, crank it down to 1024x768 and it gets blurry. Crank it down again (I can't remember, not to 800x600 but something just above) and its a native resolution and its sharp again... 1

Re: [MBZ] OT: LCD Displays

2008-02-28 Thread Allan Streib
Are there any adapters that let you put a TV signal (e.g. from a portable DVD player, etc) into a computer monitor? On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:44:26 -0800 (PST), "Curt Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > Pretty common when an LCD is run at a non-native resolution. > For instance my 17" Samsung is

Re: [MBZ] 400E (update2)

2008-02-28 Thread John Robbins
Donald Snook wrote: > What is the Rusty price for a transmission for this car. If you > could get them down to $1500-1800 and then put in a Rusty tranny it > might be a great car - assuming it wasn't a Katrina victim. From that thread a while back, I'm presuming that a tranny would cost about $

Re: [MBZ] OT: LCD Displays

2008-02-28 Thread John Robbins
Allan Streib wrote: > Are there any adapters that let you put a TV signal (e.g. from a > portable DVD player, etc) into a computer monitor? I'm sure there are, but they're probably around $100. You can also get a TV tuner for about $50, and then you can record TV shows to the computer. Also, y

[MBZ] OT Cars! And loose dogs who chase them

2008-02-28 Thread Zoltan Finks
Reminds me of this Border Collie on my commute back home from school last year. As any good Border would do, it not only crouched and gave "the stare", it laid down and actually had its chin on the ground as it stalked the approaching cars. The most scary thing is that its nose was right at the pav

Re: [MBZ] OT Cars! And loose dogs who chase them

2008-02-28 Thread Gary Hurst
i live in a suburban area about 25 miles east of atlanta. most people own at least one dog. about 20% let the dogs run free. this initially alarmed me, but i soon discovered that everyone (including animal control) just accepts it so i only do anything now if a dog is proven to be vicious. I th

Re: [MBZ] ATF Level Question

2008-02-28 Thread Zoltan Finks
Thanks Jim, and others. Great info. I'll study it a few times to try to remember it all and learn from it. I did, however, think there might be a sort of standard knowledge of how much the difference between the dipstick reading in a warm, running engine and a cold, non-running engine is. I see ho

Re: [MBZ] OT Cars! And loose dogs who chase them

2008-02-28 Thread pm7088
I've owned and loved dogs for 50+ years. Had one in our neighborhood that chased cars and bikes. Did minor scraps to one of the kids. Kids Dad put a rag under his hubcap and drove by. Dog grapped the rag, wrong his neck, problem dog was "Fixed" Very humane in my Yankee opinion. Pete --

[MBZ] Damage limits (was Re: Inertia reel seatbelts)

2008-02-28 Thread David Bruckmann
In the 70s, three Supreme Court of Canada decisions effectively fixed the maximum "pain and suffering" damage recovery to $100,000. That figure is indexed to inflation, so today you'd be limited to about $300k. One of the rationale for fixing the amount at the time was that awards in the US were

Re: [MBZ] ATF Level Question

2008-02-28 Thread R A Bennell
Sort of depends on what you are using the vehicle for etc. I have had a number of each and I guess for the most part if I have to choose I would go with an automatic. I wouldn't mind if my 115 300D was a manual but I am happy that my 02 Supercrew is not. Truck transmissions are generally not as m

Re: [MBZ] OT: Chickens

2008-02-28 Thread Redghost
Now Jim, that is a fine example of the welfare state effect on citizens. All cooped up and no need to think, they just go on looking for the hand out, dropping dead once things change. Actually Wilcox is a great operation and nothing like the tyson or purdue farms. I understand there are m

Re: [MBZ] OT: Chickens

2008-02-28 Thread Redghost
I have found that if the dog will kill a child, it would kill a chicken, so you acclimate them much the same way. Have the dog exposed to the chickens as they grow and it may decide that they are part of his pack as well as chickens figuring the dog is a really ugly rooster. If the dog i

Re: [MBZ] OT: Chickens

2008-02-28 Thread Redghost
We have a number of breeding pairs of eagle near me. I applaud the occasional missing cat or yap dog. Not so happy with the huge eagle dropping on the roof of the car. A chicken will need the same care one of the small pets would, but are smarter about looking out for danger than dogs or c

Re: [MBZ] dinner?

2008-02-28 Thread Redghost
I was able to cure a neighbor dog of his unwanted attention by driving just fast enough for him to get behind me and think he was going to actually catch me. Then I slammed on the brakes. He found he was able to catch me, but not in the manner he intended. From then on, he decided not to

Re: [MBZ] OT LCD Displays

2008-02-28 Thread Redghost
I got a samsung for x-mas. It is a really nice wide 22 that gave me issue on the mac because I was trying to drive it too far out of native resolution. PC Computing gives the samsungs really high reviews and they are inexpensive at the costco. Comes with both the DVI and VGA cable as wel

Re: [MBZ] Damage limits (was Re: Inertia reel seatbelts)

2008-02-28 Thread R A Bennell
My recollection is that there were cases from the SCC that gave multimillion dollar settlements based upon the cost of caring for severely injured folks for the rest of their lives. The, then dollar amounts were about 1 to 3 million if I recall which was sufficient to cause many of us to increase

Re: [MBZ] OT LCD Displays

2008-02-28 Thread R A Bennell
Recent Comsumer Reports mag gave highest marks to Samsung TV if I recall, as well. Sony, in 2nd place. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Redghost Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 2:48 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] O

Re: [MBZ] Gas prices hit record high

2008-02-28 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
crap. I remember when it used to cost about 12-14 to fill up my 123 diesel Dave H... wrote: > I just paid $3.49 per gallon for diesel here in SCGrr! > $64.00 to fill up to 300CD > > > > Dave H... > > -- > From: "E M" <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: [MBZ] 400E (update2)

2008-02-28 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
If they are starting out at 28, chances are they will only come down to 2500, until it still has not sold for a year, then they might come down to 2k Donald Snook wrote: > John R. wrote: "I think I'm going to pass on it... even if I could negotiate > it down to what it should be. The ad has be

Re: [MBZ] 400E (update2)

2008-02-28 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
i thought you wanted me to buy your 116 or something? John Robbins wrote: > Donald Snook wrote: >> What is the Rusty price for a transmission for this car. If you >> could get them down to $1500-1800 and then put in a Rusty tranny it >> might be a great car - assuming it wasn't a Katrina victim.

[MBZ] Scooter charger switch

2008-02-28 Thread wilton strickland
Here's a photo of the rocker switch with scooter icon that I installed in the center console of my '87 300D a few months ago. Switch controls 12V DC to inverter which supplies 120V AC to scooter mfgr's charger which supplies 28V DC to mobility scooter battery in the trunk. Wilton -- n

[MBZ] W108 mystery switch

2008-02-28 Thread David Bruckmann
Gang, The centre console on my 280SEL (with column shifter) has a fifth switch. It looks exactly like the single rocker switch in the rear door. The extra switch is located between the two rows of double window switches. The car doesn't have a sunroof, and in any case I believe sunroof switches

Re: [MBZ] 400E (update2)

2008-02-28 Thread John Robbins
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > i thought you wanted me to buy your 116 or something? The one in Atlanta only needs a starter or ignition switch. Mine needs an engine swap. If nothing else I could flip the one in Atlanta pretty easily. ___ http://www.okiebenz.

[MBZ] W108 mystery switch

2008-02-28 Thread David Bruckmann
Gang, The centre console on my 280SEL (with column shifter) has a fifth switch. It looks exactly like the single rocker switch in the rear door. The extra switch is located between the two rows of double window switches. The car doesn't have a sunroof, and in any case I believe sunroof switches

Re: [MBZ] W108 mystery switch

2008-02-28 Thread Tom Hargrave
>From memory, it's the antenna height over-ride. When you first turned the radio on, the original antenna came up until the radio got good reception then it stopped. But the antenna did not self adjust as you were driving and you could manually move the antenna up & down "as needed". Everyone else

[MBZ] Party on Garth!

2008-02-28 Thread Donald Snook
Pacer on ebay. Only 35k miles. These are so ugly, they are sort of cool. http://tinyurl.com/3bruez Donald H. Snook http://www.mtsqh.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [

Re: [MBZ] 84 126 diesel mileage

2008-02-28 Thread andrew strasfogel
I changed the timing change at 125K IIRC, or nearly160 K miles ago. On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 9:44 PM, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What's the chain stretch? I don't know that it can make that much of a > difference, but it will make some if it's near the limit. > > > -- > OK Don, KD5NRO >

Re: [MBZ] Party on Garth!

2008-02-28 Thread Kevin
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 04:30:04PM -0600, Donald Snook wrote: > Pacer on ebay. Only 35k miles. These are so ugly, they are sort of cool. > > http://tinyurl.com/3bruez Heh. I have a pacer wagon with a perkins diesel in it. One of these days, I should get it running. Weird thing, for sure. _

Re: [MBZ] 84 126 diesel mileage

2008-02-28 Thread andrew strasfogel
I meant timing "chain" of course... On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 5:37 PM, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I changed the timing change at 125K IIRC, or nearly160 K miles ago. > > > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 9:44 PM, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > What's the chain stretch? I don'

Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System

2008-02-28 Thread andrew strasfogel
Lincoln?? I must be missing something. On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 10:04 PM, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Same here. > > > > > A few years ago I would have said that GWB has done more to destroy > > freedom in this country than any single man since Abraham Lincoln. Now > > I'd rank him abo

Re: [MBZ] Party on Garth!

2008-02-28 Thread R A Bennell
My mother in law had one when it was new. That sort of caramel color that was sort of popular at that time. They previously had a Gremlin, in the same color. The Gremlin proved to be OK except for having a squeaky suspension as I recall. Not really sure how good the Pacer was. Long time ago. Ran

Re: [MBZ] 84 126 diesel mileage

2008-02-28 Thread R A Bennell
If that is true, then it must be time to do it again! You got to stop driving so much. You gonna wear that car out. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 4:38 PM To: Mercedes Discussion Lis

Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System

2008-02-28 Thread R A Bennell
Ugh, would that be the freedom to own slaves?? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 4:40 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System Lincoln?? I must be m

Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System

2008-02-28 Thread Mitch Haley
andrew strasfogel wrote: > > Lincoln?? I must be missing something. http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v07/v07p319_Dickson.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Uns

Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System

2008-02-28 Thread Kevin
More of a tenth amendment/states rights issue. Both sides of that war undertook a lot of revisionist history to make the other side seem more evil. On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 04:49:35PM -0600, R A Bennell wrote: > Ugh, would that be the freedom to own slaves?? > > Randy > > -Original Message---

Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System

2008-02-28 Thread andrew strasfogel
Are there still reasonable people (emphasis) who believe the South should won the war to continue the practice of slavery? If so, I would be amazed to find any such on this list. On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 5:47 PM, Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > More of a tenth amendment/states rights issue. Bo

Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System

2008-02-28 Thread R A Bennell
Hey Andrew Got a Rebel Flag for the back window in your car? The South shall rise again! Got to be careful here not to offend anyone. Our trusty parts suppliers are in Atanta after all. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfo

Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System

2008-02-28 Thread Timothy Robinson
I believe that war was more about tariffs and state's rights. Slavery was an issue used to "sell" it... probably like our current "War on Terror." > From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List > Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 17:53:13 -0500 > To: "Mercedes Discussio

Re: [MBZ] OT LCD Displays

2008-02-28 Thread Rich Thomas
They get their panels from the same Sharp factory, and just yesterday was an announcement that all 3 are investing a $bil or 2 to build another panel factory for >40" screens. The "quality" difference among them is most likely due to video signal processing differences among the various manufa

Re: [MBZ] Party on Garth!

2008-02-28 Thread Rich Thomas
I had a female friend back when who had a mint/lime-ish green Gremlin, she called it "Lima Bean." --R R A Bennell wrote: > My mother in law had one when it was new. That sort of caramel color that was > sort of popular at that time. They > previously had a Gremlin, in the same color. The Gremli

Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System

2008-02-28 Thread Rich Thomas
Do wives count as people who believe that? --R andrew strasfogel wrote: > Are there still reasonable people (emphasis) who believe the South should > won the war to continue the practice of slavery? If so, I would be amazed > to find any such on this list. > > > _

Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System

2008-02-28 Thread Mitch Haley
andrew strasfogel wrote: > > Are there still reasonable people (emphasis) who believe the South should > won the war to continue the practice of slavery? That straw man has all the sophistication of a 2nd grade social studies lesson. ___ http://www.okiebenz.c

Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System

2008-02-28 Thread andrew strasfogel
Depends on whether the wife in question is "chattel". On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Rich Thomas < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do wives count as people who believe that? > > --R > > andrew strasfogel wrote: > > Are there still reasonable people (emphasis) who believe the South > should > > won

Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System

2008-02-28 Thread Tom Hargrave
The Civil War was about taxation without representation. Also, the North and the South had slaves during the Civil War. Slavery came into general disuse in the North, not because of human rights, but because the North had become more industrialized and slavery no longer fit. The South still us

Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System

2008-02-28 Thread andrew strasfogel
Yeah, I was misinformed that the Civil War wasn't really about slavery but about commerce. My bad. On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 6:15 PM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > andrew strasfogel wrote: > > > > Are there still reasonable people (emphasis) who believe the South > should > > won the

Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System

2008-02-28 Thread andrew strasfogel
Almost forgot to mention the unimportant and irrelevant Emancipation Proclamation but there I go again being naive, moralistic, and judgmental. On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 6:18 PM, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yeah, I was misinformed that the Civil War wasn't really about slavery bu

Re: [MBZ] ABS question again and flushing diffs

2008-02-28 Thread Hendrik & Fay
Yessum boss I cleaned dem rings good. I am not ruling out voltage problems, at the moment the ABS light is off for the first 5k's or so and then comes on. Perhaps the OVP is having issues, I tried to pull it apart for a resolder but could not figure out how. I have seen pictures of them pulled a

Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System

2008-02-28 Thread Tom Hargrave
My Brother In-law hangs a rebel flag in the back window of his truck. I've talked to him several times about the flag. I've come to the conclusion that his flag has nothing to do with "The South shall rise again", Blacks or slavery. He's just proud to be Southern. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.

Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System

2008-02-28 Thread R A Bennell
Hey why not? That works for me. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Hargrave Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 5:29 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System My Brother In-law hangs a rebel flag in

Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System

2008-02-28 Thread Mitch Haley
andrew strasfogel wrote: > > Almost forgot to mention the unimportant and irrelevant Emancipation > Proclamation but there I go again being naive, moralistic, and judgmental. When was the last time you read it? There were two main points to it. 1) I hereby declare all slaves to be free in all

Re: [MBZ] W124 uneven heat on acceleration

2008-02-28 Thread Peter Frederick
Yup. Take it off and blow through it in normal flow direction. It should flop wide open, then close completely when you quit. Mine barely leaked past. Battery voltage applied should lock it closed. However, low flow at idle can still be a bad aux pump -- verify that you get power when th

Re: [MBZ] Bouncy speedo needle and wonky cruise in the 300TE

2008-02-28 Thread Peter Frederick
Bad hall effect pickup, maybe. The bouncing needle, actually, is probably a bad bushing -- I'm going to have to send my speedo off for repair, the more accurate one squeals and bounces, the odo doesn't work in the other one. Peter ___ http://www.okieben

[MBZ] lincoln and Racists was Re: OT: Our Political System

2008-02-28 Thread Donald Snook
andrew strasfogel wrote: > > Lincoln?? I must be missing something. http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v07/v07p319_Dickson.html WHOA! Did you actually read that? That may be one of the least disguised racist articles I have ever read about Lincoln. Here are a few quotes from the article. "The fact that

Re: [MBZ] ATF Level Question

2008-02-28 Thread Zoltan Finks
Sure. Makes sense. I am talking about the longevity and lack of problems & maintenance worries associated with a manual. brian On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 12:35 PM, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sort of depends on what you are using the vehicle for etc. I have had a > number of each and I

[MBZ] Sam Dickson

2008-02-28 Thread Donald Snook
Sam Dickson was the author of the article about Lincoln. I found out a little bit more about him. He is a member of the KKK. He was their lawyer. He is a member of several white supremacist groups. He ran for governor on a segregation platform. He is a supporter of David Duke and a friend. H

Re: [MBZ] ABS question again

2008-02-28 Thread Peter Frederick
Drain the diff (when did you change the fluid last?) and remove the rear cover. Get a new gasket, too. If the sensor gets loaded up with metal dust, it can fail to count the teeth. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponso

Re: [MBZ] Gas prices hit record high

2008-02-28 Thread Peter Frederick
It's been $3.599 here for the last two weeks. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mai

[MBZ] Wood key tops

2008-02-28 Thread wilton strickland
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Re: [MBZ] Sam Dickson

2008-02-28 Thread Mitch Haley
Donald Snook wrote: > > Sam Dickson was the author of the article about Lincoln. > > I found out a little bit more about him. > > He is a member of the KKK. He was their lawyer. OK, I should be more careful about what I find in a Google search. What about the "Journal of Historical Review"

[MBZ] ok this is a strange auction

2008-02-28 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-sedan-71-mercedes-benz-3-5-300-series_W0QQitemZ320221910935QQihZ011QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 5

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