Junior writes:A single from the album, "Full Western Dress," will be out
in June.
Apparently this single memorializes Mark Wyatt's pointy boots.
Hey I didn't even know Brian knew Mark. Besides those platform shoes don't
count as Western, unless yer talkin', um L.A. g
Thanks for the info.
Jim,
In a message dated 3/16/99 6:21:55 PM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Bottom line for me is that Jon Randall Stewart's a talented guy, and she's
a
talented singer (she flat out tore up that "I've Enjoyed As Much Of This As
I Can Stand," which was, BTW, written by Bill "I Get
I see your point Jon, but I think you give Shania too much credit for her
early career as some people slam her too much for singing cabaret-style
"pop" tunes. Before Lange got involved, you have a woman who wanted a music
career; was influenced equally by country and pop and who tinkered around
Larry writes:
From previous comments I know there are several Los
Lobos fans on the list, so thought I'd pass along word
that a new Los Lobos mailing list is getting started. It's
probably not going to be a very high-volume list, but with
the new CDs from Cesar Rosas, the Latin
This reminds me of something a state trooper told me one time, about an
old guy he stopped for driving erratically, who actually had his
windshield wiper cleaner hose routed through his dashboard. He filled the
reservoir up with Heaven Hill bourbon, and whenever he
wanted a drink, he'd push the
And remember, Columbus resident Ed Atkins is the new bass player. He'll
be the good lookin one. Be sure to say hi to him on tour and make him
feel at home. Can you imagine: signing on to a band and having a video
shoot being your first "job?"
-Original Message-
From: BARNARD
From a Salon interview with Jeff Tweedy. Joshua Green is the
writer. Who is he and why is he such a dick?
Q: I was thinking specifically of the No Depression purists who are
kind of militantly pro-twang, you know what I mean?
A: I really have no concern for them. It's great that they have
Given the recent traffic here and especially on P1, I'd say the man has a
valid point.
rebecca, who is still unsure if she likes "Summerteeth"
-Original Message-
From: Dave Purcell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
From a Salon interview with Jeff Tweedy. Joshua Green is the
writer. Who
On Wed, 17 Mar 1999 09:34:32 -0500 Dave "Man the
Barricades" Purcell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From a Salon interview with Jeff Tweedy. Joshua Green is the
writer. Who is he and why is he such a dick?
Q: I was thinking specifically of the No Depression purists who are
kind of militantly
Militantly pro-Jeff Rebecca writes:
Given the recent traffic here and especially on P1, I'd say the
man has a valid point.
Dunno about Postcard, but given that everything from Coltrane to
Blue Oyster Cult comes up here on a regular basis, I think one
would be hard-pressed to describe P2
Dave:
Dunno about Postcard, but given that everything from Coltrane to
Blue Oyster Cult comes up here on a regular basis, I think one
would be hard-pressed to describe P2 as a list of No Depression
purists.
Indeed. Perhaps the demographic description should be changed to
"free-range
From a Salon interview with Jeff Tweedy. Joshua Green is the
writer. Who is he and why is he such a dick?
Q: I was thinking specifically of the No Depression purists who are
kind of militantly pro-twang, you know what I mean?
A: I really have no concern for them. It's great that they have
At 09:12 AM 3/17/99 +, you wrote:
Dave:
Dunno about Postcard, but given that everything from Coltrane to
Blue Oyster Cult comes up here on a regular basis, I think one
would be hard-pressed to describe P2 as a list of No Depression
purists.
Indeed. Perhaps the demographic
I get the feeling this entire journalistic discourse is part of
larger marketing and publicity calculations. When these people could
secure a niche identity for themselves as "altcountry," they did.
Now that they've consolidated at that level and seek poprock
market visibility wider than
What's his beef? He did the Mermaid Ave music in a roosty vein (never
have I heard a band try so hard to sound like the Basement Tapes, BTW),
so it's not like a huge stretch for folks to expect him and WIlco to
still produce ND related music, when his last project *was* so NDish.
Now he has a big
Joel Reese's take on Joe Henry:
This movement is known for its
zealous fans, quick to accuse a band of selling out if it doesn't
meet their exacting purist standards. (Just ask The Jayhawks and
Wilco, which have both evolved from their country-rock roots.)"
Don't you actually have to sell
On Wed, 17 Mar 1999, Matt Benz wrote:
with such sudden musical changes is funny. It is a radical jump from one
album to the next. People who like the Neil Young sound don't rush out
and embrace his rockabilly big band techno albums either. People like
consistancy. Not everyone is so
Michael J. Cempa wrote:
I don't think Tweedy "sold out," he just made a record he wanted
to make. If you don't like it, that's fine, but anyone who thinks
Tweedy has some moral, musical or any other kind of responsibilty
to alt.country is being close-minded.
Exactly. That's what
I don't know about other bands, but I think it's somewhat understandable
that Tweedy (and that other guy, what's his name again? g) might be a
little bit defensive about the "alt-country" tag. Because lookit, a bunch
of fans of his old band started up an AOL folder, named after a song
covered by
Aghhhggh! Kelly Willis cancelled her Columbus show!
Doesn't she know? Doesn't she understand? All those letters I sent
her, all those "items" of my affection, all those.oh.I see
Now Matt...she just needs her "space"...you understand don't you? Matt? Matt?
Hey what's the name of that motel that everybody stays at in St. Louis for
Twangfest? How much does it cost, etc.?
Red Meat's playing in St. Louis on 4/10 and I gotta find 'em a place to
live for the night. I figure either there or a clean, comfortable room at
the 6, whichever's cheaper.
On Wed, 17 Mar 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
how many of their songs are about the dilemma posed when some woman is
a faithless liar, though. Are there really that many faithless lying
ladies in Tennessee?
Yes, I married one became divorced from one! g
She took a *liking*
[Matt Benz] Well, in many ways, I identify with Tweedy, since I grew up
with much the same musical influences, I suspect, and hell, I jump
around myself musically. But then, no one asks me about that, nor do I
have an adoring audience following my every move. Well, I do, but a
court order
Are there really that many faithless lying
ladies in Tennessee?
Carl W.
Yes.
Of course, there are plenty of faithless men, too.
Not that we Tennesseans are a faithless lot, we're just really
CONCERNED with the idea of faith (and also guilt, salvation, etc.).
I've
Tom wrote:
this Iggy thing has me all worked up. I've been listening to "The
Idiot" and "Lust for Life" since Sunday night...
One highlight from last night's V-Roys entertainment (pardon me but
I'm not going to know titles) - one song launched with a rousing
I thought the Joel Reese quote in re Joe Henry that Todd Larson posted:
There's nothing wrong with moving on
from the confining alt.country scene. This movement is known for its
zealous fans, quick to accuse a band of selling out if it doesn't
meet their exacting purist standards. (Just ask The
I have a mixed reaction to this - clearly the current backlash (which
I think has been accelerated by PazznJop and a couple of other
instances of high-profile folk like Christgau calling alt-country
"confining") is largely crap, and another case of Moronic Media Meme
They had a photo of some Elvis
impersonator, but not one mention of Paul Ameritwang (unless he IS the
Elvis
impersonator).
That was most likely the one and only Frankie Capri. Ms. Stephanie and I
took Paul to see his "show" after Lydia Lunch's opening (art opening, what
else?). Paul has
Carl Wilson wrote:
Case in point: Last night I went to see a free gig in town by the V-Roys,
who I thought were a great bar band, though they were batting about .500 on
decent songs. But the crowd was a really roadhouse-country-rock-lovin'
bunch, who wanted their roots as loud and
I said of the V-Roys audience
the crowd was a really roadhouse-country-rock-lovin'
bunch, who wanted their roots as loud and straight-up and danceable as
possible.
And Dave P retorted:
Is that any different from people at a Metallica show not wanting to
hear Lars co sound like
I don't understand it either? I think it's really a case of being
"catagorized" that gets artists squirrelly. It seems like Tweedy and Henry
to a lesser extent take a defensive stance because a) they feel they have
to defend their "evolving" art b) not so sure they are confident with their
Does he have a song about Watermelon in Georgia?
Yeah, that was probably his biggest hit to date, "Watermelon Crawl." An
HNC-ish band I worked in for a while did it, and like Lester says, I kindly
learned to love it. It's a spiffy little country-rocker of the sort I think
I like a lot more
Carl W. says:
On the other hand, I disagree with Jon W.'s claim that nobody in the ND/P2
world has ever cried sellout at groups like Wilco. When a band known as
alt-country moves away from twangier sounds - the Old 97s, Wilco, whoever -
there's usually a comment made to the effect that it seems
was: gimmackry sp should have been: gimmickry...previous post...was:here
sp should have been: hear.
my brain...it is not letting my finger's work properly today...plus I'm
very related to several english teachers. g
BTW, Happy St. Patrick's Day to you all!
Cheryl Cline wrote:
But -- more on this later; I'm working it into an essay (essays?)
about alt-country between time and Timbuktu, generations, the
so-called Boomer canon, and stuff I'm shit sick of.
For the record, I'm shit sick of Cheryl writing more eloquently and
intelligently about
I don't understand this almost predictable switch of formerly dubbed
alt-twang bands to this pet-sounds pop thing. we've seen it with joe h,
jayhwaks, wilco, golden smog, and the old 97's. maybe it's simply because
most of them have been musically incestuous to varying degrees recently
and in
At 01:40 PM 3/17/99 -0500, you wrote:
[Matt Benz] Well, in many ways, I identify with Tweedy, since I grew up
with much the same musical influences, I suspect, and hell, I jump
around myself musically. But then, no one asks me about that, nor do I
have an adoring audience following my every
I like it! Especially the hook of the last line...
BTW, Marie tells me you've got a new record coming out soon? Psyched to
hear it!
At 02:18 PM 3/17/99 -0500, you wrote:
The proposed chorus:
Yes, I slammed into that wall
But not on account of the alcohol
That much I can claim in self
** Attention - Bad Info Corrected ***
Thank goodness someone is minding the company store! The ever alert Boudin
Dan writes:
I'm thinkin' you mean 3/28 my dear seeing he's playing the Met on Saturday
3/27.
After I incorrectly stated that:
...and for all you Boston area fans, Cesar
Lust for lifenever thought of that one.
The one that gets me is "Hey Mary" which is basically the same as Cash's
"Hey Porter" musically.
In case anyone was wondering, the V-Roys are *still* the best live band in
America.
Cheers.
Steve
==
George Figgs wrote:
I don't understand this almost predictable switch of formerly dubbed
alt-twang bands to this pet-sounds pop thing. we've seen it with joe h,
jayhwaks, wilco, golden smog, and the old 97's.
Slonedog responds:
While a handful (and it is just a handful folks) of the songs on
Cool. I'm looking forward to it...
At 04:23 PM 3/17/99 -0500, you wrote:
Oh, um, yeh, the belated Sovines cd comes out this April on Kingpin
Records. God willing and the creek don't rise
-Original Message-
From:Morgan Keating [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:
Jon sez:
"even leaving aside the question of whether it's really a criticism to say
that a stylistic change includes a commercial motivation (in my book, it
ain't), from my perspective there's a healthy-sized difference between the
two characterizations."
I agree, Jon, but in the
Slonedog:
While a handful (and it is just a handful folks) of the songs on
"Summerteeth" (which I think is brilliant) do owe a debt to "Pet Sounds", I
don't think either "Sound of Lies" or Joe Henry's new one have much to do
with Brian Wilson.
Right on. The Jayhawks' pop turn was pretty
Carl says:
I agree, Jon, but in the minds of someone like Tweedy and the rock
critics who interview him too much - generally reared in varying
countercultures with self-styled anticommercial posturings - the
"accusation" of commercial motivation is going to be read as a
sell-out slam, and
Carl Wilson wrote:
Me, I think the pop turn is as much the result of a sudden but sincere,
methinks, rediscovery that shiny happy music is not inherently evil, and is
a way out of rock's dead ends in a similar way that the adoption of twang
influence had been.
Slonedog responds:
It may be a "way
William T. Cocke wrote:
You know, I just read this interview and I'm with Dave.
What's the deal here? Since when did this "No Depression
purists" tag start appearing? Just who exactly is this guy
referring to? He doesn't say. Out of the 700 people on this
list, I doubt that anyone really
Dave Purcell wrote:
It's ironic that Tweedy gets annoyed with the "Wilco is an
alt.country band" cliche, but seems perfectly willing to play along
with the "No Depression purists" stereotype. Perhaps he should
consider that some people, such as myself, just don't like his
music, and its
Matt Benz wrote:
What's his beef? He did the Mermaid Ave music in a roosty vein (never
have I heard a band try so hard to sound like the Basement Tapes, BTW),
The first time I heard "Guess I Planted," I thought Bragg had hired The
Band to back him up. The keyboards are reminiscent of the
A few folks have mentioned Neil Young and his topsy-turvy stylistic swings
as analogous to Tweedy. I'd say an important difference is that Young --
at least not that I can remember -- never burned his bridges. When it
suited him, he swung back to country or rock or whatever. I don't have an
Check out the Time magazine this week. Richard Corless -- one hell of a
reviewer, but mainly movies -- drools over Kelly Willis new one. I'll
confess, though, I couldn't figure out what the hell he was trying to say,
and moreover missed anything about the way the record "sounds," other than
a
The first time I heard "Guess I Planted," I thought Bragg had hired The
Band to back him up. The keyboards are reminiscent of the swirling Garth
Hudson
variety and the lead guitar is in the Robbie Robertson doing Hubert Sumlin
style. Couldn't just be a coincidence, could it? ;-)
Gregg
Yeah, and
Hi ya'll,
I've been a reader of this list for a while, though due to its volume,
I save it to a file and use it as a search database . I stumbled across
the Walter Hyatt discussion from January and had to add a few notes:
Bell/Wrightson wrote:
Walter was originally from North Carolina. He
In a message dated 3/17/99 5:40:02 PM !!!First Boot!!!, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Also, this Iggy thing has me all worked up. I've been listening to "The
Idiot" and "Lust for Life" since Sunday night. Could a cover of "Give Me
Danger" be far off?
One of our local record labels put out a
In a message dated 3/17/99 9:09:16 PM !!!First Boot!!!,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In case anyone was wondering, the V-Roys are *still* the best live band in
America.
Uh, you better put something like "IMHO" before that statement, because IMHO,
The Bottle Rockets hold that title, and I'll
Am I right in assuming that the well-known session guitarist Waddy
Wachtel is the same Wachtel who wrote the beautiful "Maybe I'm Right" on
Ronstadt's "Simple Dreams" album? And was this a one-off, or is he
familiar for his songwriting? If it IS a one-off, did he just get
struck by lighting one
Outta here for SXSW. So goodbye to the the P2 parallel universe for about
a week or so.
Best for now,
--junior
Tickets went on sale today for Lyle Lovett at this great
old 1200-seat auditorium in Des Moines. The show's
Friday, May 7, and would be well-worth driving in from
several hours away. The hall has great sight lines and
acoustics, and I've already mentioned how quiet we
repressed Methodist
These comments from reviewers that alt-country is "confining" are really
just a secret greeting to identify themselves as part of the Brotherhood
of People Who Hate Twang (BOPWHT), which was originally founded in New
York but which now has chapters anywhere.
Not only is the alt-country
On Wed, 17 Mar 1999, Matt Benz wrote:
Now he has a big ELO pop music spectacular, which is fine, but for him
to express bewilderment that folks are surprised and maybe not thrilled
with such sudden musical changes is funny. It is a radical jump from one
album to the next. People who like
In a message dated 3/18/99 12:30:51 AM !!!First Boot!!!,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Am I right in assuming that the well-known session guitarist Waddy
Wachtel is the same Wachtel who wrote the beautiful "Maybe I'm Right" on
Ronstadt's "Simple Dreams" album? And was this a one-off, or is he
Will Miner wrote:
On Mon, 15 Mar 1999, Jon Weisberger wrote:
Now you, too, can "correct the pitch of the
most tone-deaf singers and build lush multi-voice harmonies with a click of
the mouse" for less than $400.
I hadnt heard of this technology, although it isnt surprising. So, is
All this talk about Tweedy and bands moving away from alt-country
is linked, methinks, to the larger trend of the ghettoizing of alt-country.
My own case in point: At the college radio station I work at, the
alt-country stuff in rotation gets precious little attention - rockabilly
like Rev.
Stevie Simkin writes:
Am I right in assuming that the well-known session guitarist Waddy
Wachtel is the same Wachtel who wrote the beautiful "Maybe I'm Right"
on Ronstadt's "Simple Dreams" album? And was this a one-off, or is he
familiar for his songwriting? If it IS a one-off, did he just
I get mine custom-made from M.L. Leddy Sons on N. Main in Fort Worth,
Texas. They do not hurt. I always have worn them, and always will, and
will be buried in my best pair. Bad boots are not real boots.
"Terry A. Smith" wrote:
Cowboy boots hurt, there's no getting around it. A slave to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In case anyone was wondering, the V-Roys are *still* the best live band in
America.
Mitch Matthews wrote:
Uh, you better put something like "IMHO" before that statement, because
IMHO,
The Bottle Rockets hold that title,
uh...obviously you didn't see them here in
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