I do not have a use for telling someone their message is
non-compliant. I have a use for parsing emails. I'm a simpleton user
though, so can only speak to my own needs.
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in the
branch and the results are present as a complete take-it-or-leave-it
solution.
+1. I think it's a good observation and a good suggestion to help
guide future contributions.
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protocol wise but
might be tough for configuration and some dependencies (mailbox
access, user lists, etc...). IMAP hurts my brain given that it's
asynchronous and has many harder features.
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this rolling? If it's the former, then giddyup!
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server, every feature, bell and whistle is worthless.
This is a good example of Robert's points on modularity. If mordred
was a separate project built separately, we could keep it as a binary
dependency, no?
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build, *OR* explain to us why we should still
maintain mordred.
I'm good with this too... either separate build that's a binary
dependency or just a separate download to build manually.
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On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin
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[X] +1 Move Mailets to Mailet subproject
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the same traffic with 50 servers. In the meantime I'll
gladly take options that expand my flexibility and help me get by.
MBA stands for Master of Being Abeyant *
* abeyant - the only synonym of lazy that started with an A.
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... what you were thinking in terms of web UI?
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and dig into it.
my main issue was licensing. AIUI the legal status of emails is a grey
area which i'd like to avoid.
True... yeah, that is a nasty issue that you've highlighted.
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B) +1
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I will put out a vote in a _separate_ thread in a week or so, this
thread is intended just for discussing the proposal.
I like the idea.
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for ASF mail as well... do you have to do something special,
or does everyone see this happen with email from Danny and me?
(note I'm not sending this one from Gmail)
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is the best thing to ensure that future design
choices will satisfy anyone needs.
+0.6 New users/developers with energy to work on it are good.
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a cursor API
out of that. The project scope question at hand is if we drop support
for non-streaming (and thus the cursor API) and just optimize for the
streaming use case.
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of their
domain... we've done CNAME with most other customers and haven't had
too many issues.
Anyway, don't mean to delve into the specifics, but just curious about
the CNAME deprecated theory. I'm googling and really not finding much
of anything about it.
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familiar with it.
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will be tallied I will commit the new dependencies.
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. Maybe it is.
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with a ThreadLocal
subclass declared final. the reset would then be moved into the
instance.
+1. Yeah, looking at that code it looks like just making a
ThreadLocal subclass would be much more straight-forward. I'm not
sure how this pattern got used and if there is something else to this.
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+1 I would greatly prefer using Spring instead of Phoenix as the
container for basic sysadmin stuff. There's just so much more
awareness of Spring, it would make non-developers' life easier as well
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introduced it, and then not sure
when that made it into Javamail...
Anyway yeah, I think that's a perfectly acceptable change IMHO.
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[x] +1 Dub trunk 'JAMES 3.0'
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http://auxilii.com/msgparser/
Sorta spooky... GPLv3. That said, it's using Apache POI and
references a third party site that has done the binary analysis of
Outlook msg files in case anyone was really bored and wanted to make
their own equivalent of this.
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the milestone would be an official release but just a technology
preview with no guarantees about compatibility with the actual 3
series releases (whenever they happen).
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. It
looks like this is one of the rare JCP groups that actually did a good
job collecting (rather than inventing) requirements and solutions.
[1]
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not Bill.
What are the options? Fork it? Is there another library we can go with?
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Really? How does spamassassin build their test suite?
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an email with the bug info, or explain the dilema and see if
he has any suggestions on how to address this code maintenance going
forward.
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and easiest to
come by corpus of email formating variations (pun intended).
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Java to process email in real-time.
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I just like using Java to process email in real-time.
And sendmail makes me puke.
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generate the load that
Postage could. Hopefully someone has experience that can refute this.
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+1
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the past weekend I ran a script against the top 1 smtp servers
contacted by my main mail server to see what is the current status of
ESMTP extension support.
Thanks Stefano... this is nice data to see.
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the improved collaboration and the goal of better
modularization are two good things.
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commented to the blog to ask him to contribute
back, or use our JIRA install to submit patches. :)
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, and will build from the JCR side out, not start with existing
JAMES code at all.
Commit privs granted to Jukka.
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will be able to add some +1 soon. :-)
+0. Same here.
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into separate jars, but then there's a single big javadoc
(http://static.springframework.org/spring/docs/2.0.x/api/). It's just
nice to have a comprehensive reference.
I'm not sure how fair a comparison this is as I still need to digest a
bit more how things are divided.
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Hello!
Your software, James, has been selected for inclusion in Count From Zero (CFZ,
http
for this is to control asynchronous
processing. This would somewhat hardwire us for spring if we were to
take advantage of that platform.
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I would suggest looking briefly at the raw IMAP protocol. It makes
the protocol nasty, but every command gets a unique token so that
requests and responses are asynchronous
presume this is why
someone like Andy will question the larger scalability of the protocol
given its complexity and how the asynchronous nature of rich email is
built right into the protocol instead of having the client create
multiple HTTP connections in a REST style.
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separate so as an outside user I can use the JDBC
lucene store without all the compass framework stuff, but they release
everything at the same time and keep it in the same source tree.
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. The protocol parsing and storage to answer that protocol are
further consistent expressions of those use cases.
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On 1/8/07, Danny Angus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A discussion on the Mailet-api list about annotations has started to
look at the possibility of requiring java 5 for James.
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into IMAP, or do we
need a separate protocol (perhaps http/restful as you say)?
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are expected to behave, and the reason for this is to
ensure that we have a sustainable community with proper oversight,
auditable decision making, and legal protection for the commiters.
+1 to both Danny and Joachim's points.
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off the caching on my production box and still have to leave
the restart-James cron job running nightly. Maybe I need 8 servers
running James instead of this one aged box. :)
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), there is
an optional test task. Then as the code is implemented to address the
test, you svn move the test code from optional to core.
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that starts James using spring instead of Phoenix? My thought is that
the regular James checkout can be easily run in this alternate
container, that would spur more people to take a look at it.
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to see this move, though obviously this is a non-trivial
change. ;)
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changes as fast as possible and
get Noel's opinion constructively added to the mix?
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architecture that
is thread heavy but very stack shallow (assuming you're not running
JNI stuff in some mailet), we could probably make the stack size even
smaller.
Just 2 cents for the night.
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about using this indicator that has limited accuracy.
I strongly recommend YourKit... you can get a free 14 day trial, do
two memory snapshots and run a diff to see what objects are leaking.
I think that or some other true profiling tool is necessary to spot
leaks.
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work to see this is done properly! Just
to double check (since is the first time), I should email:
http://people.apache.org/~cliffs/export/james-email.txt
(with the appropriate headers updated)? That's it?
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yep -- that's it -- that now has the new Notification URL in it
(instead of the old one above), which is
http://www.apache.org/licenses/exports/.
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On 7/27/06, Stefano Bagnara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can we remove this thing?
AFAIK we now build only against java 1.4+ and it should include jdbc 3.0
by default.
Any drawbacks?
I think that should be safe to remove if we have deprecrated 1.3.
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than 1% of my outgoing
mail have multiple recipients.
I would be +1 to invert the default value on trunk.
We should not change 2.3 now.
Same here. AFAIK, it was safer to have it default false because we
were unclear how it would do in widespread production usage. +1 to
change.
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to james committers and much less to james users.
I would not want to draw a line so strong. If someone wants to look
at some report and make a change, or is running their own branch of
the code and wants the changelog and dependency report, more power to
them.
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! Thank you for working on this!
My only two requests are that we get the Source code link fixed
(from what's on the current site) and that we have the process of
updating the website clearly documented so all committers can do it.
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some new non-Avalon service locator approach,
unless there is much more discussion. Avalon is service locator and
is what we use throughout. I don't want to tie James code to Avalon,
but I'm not convinced with the alternates that have shown up yet.
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of the above points, please give your opinions.
H1. Use Spring
+1
H2. Use XBean
+0
H3. Use OSGi Declarative Services
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described in there.. I
have not done it on 2.3.0 yet to see if there are any new memory
leaks.
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Mailet {
/**
* return boolean Whether mailet consumed it
*/
public boolean service(Mail mail)
}
public interface MailetContext {
public void injectHere(Mail);
public void injectElsewhere(Mail, String spoolname);
}
Those names are not good, but that's the rough signature.
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Can you clarify what this vote is?
We're posting a beta release to the public. We've voted on such in the
past, and so I called for a vote in the present.
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a very relaxed license. My read says it's fine to use.
http://www.jmock.org/license.html
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On 6/2/06, Norman Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So when we can start to VOTE for this now ?
I would just commit. It's backwards compatible, discussed several
days ago with consensus of what we'd change, go for it! We can always
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on whether we should release a snapshot, or are we making a
formal release? The start of the subject [Vote] suggests the latter,
but the build name (to me) suggests the former.
Sorry, just dense. Been a long week.
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Across the ASF, it's been generally frowned on, though this is a
per-project decision to make.James decided to remove all author
tags a few years back, though some may still be in there.
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subproject ?
Yes, please do.
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verify the checksums of their downloads representing a small
contingent and heck, this is only for someone building James from
source, not required for the masses.
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- helped develop a fresh impl of spf and brought it into SVN.
I understand people wanting Stefano to share more what he's working on
and changing, but the way things are getting said are unlikely to
create the desired result.
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or will fix it promptly if he didn't.
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I didn't have anything to do with the user repositories. :) I think
James is lacking on a lot of what I consider basic mailbox features...
Can you name a few features you miss? (I just want to be sure I
understood
structured, it can know
(and thus reject during SMTP protocol) recipients that it cannot
handle for authoritative domain. So perhaps add both a rewrite() and
a handles() method?
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about what
would require more programming. You guys know better whether this
direction has any merit in it.
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at the code. It all sounds
reasonable based on the comments.
I have a follow-up email on terminology coming soon.
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2. Intentional with terms we're using
Here are some sample terms...
subproject - jakarta terminology
project - xml.apache.org's terminology
plugin - maven.apache.org's terminology
module - ?
codebase - ?
Others?
What do you think?
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for mailboxes that bots will
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Not sure it really helps us with versioning docs generation, but
anyway, those are my 2 cents.
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avoid forcing
the user to download activation and mail.jar manually?
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On 5/2/06, Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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dnsjava should have
no trouble retrieving that record type. jSPF would largely just be
parsing of that TXT record into the appropriate rule set, no? If it
intends to do more, it would almost have to depend on dnsjava to be
able to get those TXT records, I would think.
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large issues that come up. We're not going to be able to test
the DNS cache leak code until we get to a release. :)
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currently support the TXT version because dnsjava does not
handle the SPF record type (99).
Great, thanks for clarifying both these points!
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the dnsserver conf block. I wonder how the
spi would instantiate it.
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On 4/25/06, Serge Knystautas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Actually, it gets a bit worse. Out of my 52MB heap that is not
gc'able, here is what I see:
- 44MB in an xbill cache held by Lookup code that is held by an avalon
policy class holder.
- 3.2MB in an xbill cache held by DNS server
- 1.7MB
. Is there anyway we can
cap this cache size or ideally send it to disk?
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libraries. So long as licensing issues are addressed, I don't
see the downside to including jars that are used by optional mailets.
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/matchers and their depencies are separate, but so long as the
code is properly independent, why stop progress?
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