Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-31 Thread Morten Bartholdy
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Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-30 Thread kenny wood
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Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-30 Thread Stefan Kubicek
z2lZsQ&s=gS8BYrYbaNceApRP5V72OlR9ino30s96DsSsNDWPrUg&e= > Subject: Re: Softimage - not going away... > > Aw, that is sad. > > Morten > > >> Den 27. oktober 2017 klokken 19:26 skrev pedro santos : >> >> >> Another hit :( >> fabricengine.com &g

RE: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-30 Thread Angus Davidson
GqIkvC6Tz2lZsQ&s=gS8BYrYbaNceApRP5V72OlR9ino30s96DsSsNDWPrUg&e= Subject: Re: Softimage - not going away... Aw, that is sad. Morten > Den 27. oktober 2017 klokken 19:26 skrev pedro santos : > > > Another hit :( > fabricengine.com > > > On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 6:16 PM, Mirko Jankovic > wrote: > &

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-30 Thread Morten Bartholdy
Aw, that is sad. Morten > Den 27. oktober 2017 klokken 19:26 skrev pedro santos : > > > Another hit :( > fabricengine.com > > > On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 6:16 PM, Mirko Jankovic > wrote: > > > It is really sad that years after SI is killed best possible replacement > > is still years away...

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-28 Thread Stefan Kubicek
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Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-28 Thread skuby
Vwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=DLI3Guoj0XY__tyeCFqGoxUoGb6xtuaZ2eu9uFpWbwg&s=WvL8ovWFwnGh75oQ0VmNxnu96tuCK6FgXlAW295C_rw&e= > *Subject:* Re: Softimage - not going away... > > Although I understand where you are coming from the minimising risk side, > it is also true that you end up investi

RE: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-28 Thread Andres Stephens
MsrMw7PFsA&m=wOx6c6PpXXej-OS2OE4X72A_OaZ_8Mi6rLQg93Jusjg&s=lf5wAismtSxlMt7XDScnmAm0npYblVdzNlG8TkF-W-0&e= Subject: Re: Softimage - not going away... Although I understand where you are coming from the minimising risk side, it is also true that you end up investing a lot more in both, t

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-28 Thread Jordi Bares
Although I understand where you are coming from the minimising risk side, it is also true that you end up investing a lot more in both, the software and glue to communicate various software applications with a myriad of file formats and what not, therefore I advocate for a hybrid approach in whi

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-28 Thread Jordi Bares
Pretty much my though. > On 28 Oct 2017, at 13:39, Mirko Jankovic wrote: > > How replacing 1 tool with 5 or more, and work that could be done by 1 man now > requires 5 or more as well can be advantage? > ᐧ > -- > Softimage Mailing List. > To unsubscribe, send a mail to softimage-requ...@lis

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-28 Thread skuby
Investing your time into mastering the totality of one major software is risky. The specific example that I want to test in the coming months doesn't seem unreasonable for one person (and you could swap the parts out to suit your tastes/budget/needs/prior experience) (but please critique the idea.

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-28 Thread Mirko Jankovic
How replacing 1 tool with 5 or more, and work that could be done by 1 man now requires 5 or more as well can be advantage? ᐧ -- Softimage Mailing List. To unsubscribe, send a mail to softimage-requ...@listproc.autodesk.com with "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm.

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-28 Thread skuby
feel as one door closes others will open for them, folk with that >> much talent don't remain jobless for long. >> >> On 27 October 2017 at 22:03, Matt Lind wrote: >> >>> It likely died for the reason you just stated - you 'eventually' wanted &

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-28 Thread Jordi Bares
gt; >> They made the right move initially of targeting the space between the other >> DCCs, but I think staying there long term was a mistake. >> >> >> Matt >> >> >> Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 17:34:02 + >> From: Andres Stephens ma

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-27 Thread Christopher Crouzet
> It likely died for the reason you just stated - you 'eventually' wanted to >> learn. Problem is most people had the same sentiments. >> >> They made the right move initially of targeting the space between the >> other >> DCCs, but I think staying there long term

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-27 Thread Gerbrand Nel
d to learn.  Problem is most people had the same sentiments. They made the right move initially of targeting the space between the other DCCs, but I think staying there long term was a mistake. Matt Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 17:34:02 + From: Andres Stephens mailto:dr

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-27 Thread Jonathan Moore
x27;eventually' wanted to > learn. Problem is most people had the same sentiments. > > They made the right move initially of targeting the space between the other > DCCs, but I think staying there long term was a mistake. > > > Matt > > > Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 17

RE: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-27 Thread Matt Lind
7 Oct 2017 17:34:02 + From: Andres Stephens Subject: RE: Softimage - not going away... To: "Official Softimage Users Mailing List. This is devastating news!!! WTF!? I was betting on learning this and eventually investing in it. I didn?t want to be locked into one software the

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-27 Thread Jonathan Moore
ay, October 27, 2017 12:27 >>> *To: *Official Softimage Users Mailing List. >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__groups.google.com_forum_-23-21forum_xsi-5Flist&d=DwIFaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jV

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-27 Thread Mirko Jankovic
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Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-27 Thread Jonathan Moore
com/v2/url?u=https-3A__groups.google.com_&d=DwIFaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=fGhvNtVcP4NrcFtMdGRsN2zvg4f6FD36O_BHdpjl9j0&s=hB5PfbxG7P0P-YSJSROYGgxXR5h7r_uXcA74mCtNYuY&e= > forum/#!forum/xsi_list > *Sub

RE: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-27 Thread Andres Stephens
zxpdXTBXa1Eb05OYnHQQ&s=6MntOerwUui78zQzgGCefA0XVB7mR5xirKPzNZQZ1Tw&e=<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com> Subject: Re: Softimage - not going away... Another hit :( fabricengine.com<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__fabricengine.com&d=DwMFaQ&

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-27 Thread pedro santos
Another hit :( fabricengine.com On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 6:16 PM, Mirko Jankovic wrote: > It is really sad that years after SI is killed best possible replacement > is still years away > What are we talking about? Let's kill best software it is not so > profitable as others and push back pro

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-27 Thread Mirko Jankovic
It is really sad that years after SI is killed best possible replacement is still years away What are we talking about? Let's kill best software it is not so profitable as others and push back production workflow and progress 10 years back who needs progress when you can charge subscription

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-27 Thread Jonathan Moore
t;> the most part in ice, create point clouds in most any fashion, pop them in >>>> and out at any time, and apply animated colors to them as I see fit, I >>>> would think that you do much of this in C4D but without the complete >>>> control you can get with IC

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-27 Thread Jordi Bares
is in C4D but without the complete control you >>>> can get with ICE, however I wonder if the same ease of creation is there >>>> with Houdini. I agree with others I would just assume continue to use >>>> Softimage/Ice, however, I worry about the day, Soft just doesn’t open. I >>>>

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-27 Thread Jonathan Moore
;> have had problems like this with other programs where just recently some >>> updates whether it be windows 10 or the video drivers, have caused certain >>> things to crash, and has caused me great anxiety. >>> >>> *From:* Jonathan Moore >>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 26, 2017 7:07 PM &

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-27 Thread Jordi Bares
other programs where just recently some >>> updates whether it be windows 10 or the video drivers, have caused certain >>> things to crash, and has caused me great anxiety. >>> >>> From: Jonathan Moore <> >>> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 7:07 P

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-27 Thread Jordi Bares
; >> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 7:07 PM >> To: Official Softimage Users Mailing >> List.https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__groups.google.com_forum_-23-21forum_xsi-5Flist&d=DwIFaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-27 Thread Jason S
On 10/25/17 17:01, Mathieu Leclaire wrote: I hear you, but how will you compete for a job when everyone else is using nail guns and you are only using a hammer? If all these new kids can do the job 100x faster then you can, why would t

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-27 Thread Jonathan Moore
oore >> *Sent:* Thursday, October 26, 2017 7:07 PM >> *To:* Official Softimage Users Mailing >> List.https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__groups.google.com&d=DwIFaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-27 Thread Alex Doss
it be windows 10 or the video drivers, have caused certain >>> things to crash, and has caused me great anxiety. >>> >>> *From:* Jonathan Moore >>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 26, 2017 7:07 PM >>> *To:* Official Softimage Users Mailing >>> List.https://urld

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-27 Thread Alex Doss
used certain >> things to crash, and has caused me great anxiety. >> >> *From:* Jonathan Moore >> *Sent:* Thursday, October 26, 2017 7:07 PM >> *To:* Official Softimage Users Mailing >> List.https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__groups.google.co

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-27 Thread Jordi Bares
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Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-27 Thread Jordi Bares
If your field is motion graphics and nonVFX FX... well then it’s clear you have to accept a certain level of programming and maths and tinkering with the software and how is architected. Very interesting to invest time on higher manipulation layer... look forward to see that. Jb Sent from my

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-26 Thread Jonathan Moore
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Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-26 Thread phil harbath
fu0glRcoRVAZwWhQPw&e= Subject: Re: Softimage - not going away... Those coming from the likes C4D and After Effects doing wonderful stuff in Houdini were in many cases already technical artists. One of the Aixsponza/Entagma boys (Manuel) started out in XSI as it happens, the other was skilled in

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-26 Thread Jonathan Moore
Those coming from the likes C4D and After Effects doing wonderful stuff in Houdini were in many cases already technical artists. One of the Aixsponza/Entagma boys (Manuel) started out in XSI as it happens, the other was skilled in Processing (Moritz). And Simon Holmedal was a math nerd long before

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-26 Thread Jordi Bares
No worries Jonathan.. It is nevertheless interesting that non-technical artists like those coming from C4D and AfterEffects are jumping on Houdini and some really are doing amazing work the like we haven’t seen so may be it will be an evolution in the sense that understanding the processes may

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-26 Thread Jonathan Moore
I wasn't intending to pick holes Jordi, so apologies if it came over that way. But yes, be it nodal shading, nodal compositing or full featured end to end procedural modeling and animation; nodes scare the bejesus out of a many artists. Personally, I find nodes a more visually descriptive view of t

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-26 Thread Jordi Bares
Indeed you are right, I probably have a skewed vision due to the fact that everyone is now exposed to Nuke (and here XSI) which have node based approaches but may be outside is not so obvious. I hope you have fun though. ;-) jb > On 26 Oct 2017, at 18:44, Jonathan Moore wrote: > > Jordi, I'

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-26 Thread skuby
Different software for different tasks and just pick the best Software available at the time, total compartmentalization. example ( / slashes = "or" ) Modeling (Softimage/Blender +Marvelous Deisgner) Sculpting (Mudbox/ZBrush/Blender) Retopo (ZBrush/Houdini) UV's (semi-automated via Houdini) Paint

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-26 Thread kenny wood
Only problem I have with Houdini is the slow viewport subdivision display ...otherwise I would use it for modelling aswell On 26 Oct 2017 19:44, "Jonathan Moore" wrote: > Jordi, I'm only recounting the feedback I get from the artists I support. > Some of these artists find nodal approaches per s

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-26 Thread Jonathan Moore
Jordi, I'm only recounting the feedback I get from the artists I support. Some of these artists find nodal approaches per se as being technical. You, I and most on this list know this not to be the case, but we have to be considerate that not all artists are wired the same as us. On 26 October 20

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-26 Thread Jordi Bares
Could you give me an example of various stages of a production where you need those skills? I can only see a few places where you do and others that you might if you want to do complex stuff (like modern abstract motion graphics for example) Let’s also remember, only recently we have Wrangle no

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-26 Thread Jonathan Moore
> > The only way to learn a language well is to fully immerse into it, same > thing here… Houdini is not hard any more, UX and specially a more viewport > centric approach makes it very easy to start. > True there is some vocabulary and weird things in a few areas but those > come easy if you reall

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-26 Thread Jordi Bares
The only way to learn a language well is to fully immerse into it, same thing here… Houdini is not hard any more, UX and specially a more viewport centric approach makes it very easy to start. True there is some vocabulary and weird things in a few areas but those come easy if you really go for

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-26 Thread Mathieu Leclaire
Houdini is not that hard to use... What's difficult is learning their nomenclature. They use very different terminology from other 3D softwares and that makes it hard to find the tools you are looking for. Once you learned what all these new terms are, it becomes so easy to work with. It's a l

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-26 Thread Enter Reality
For technical reasons I had to switch to Maya, but I'm still pretty bad with modeling ( tools looks like a plugin on top of a plugin on top of another plugin ), and for animation I switched to Motion Builders, since all the characters I'm working on are humans with a pretty standard rig ( except fo

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-26 Thread Morten Bartholdy
Houdini is still to technical to even start using. Blender I have actually looked at and it doesn't look half as bad as Maya, but it also very much depends on where you are working or aspire to work. Maya is a ticket to work in most places these days I guess, but it is also certain to drive you

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-26 Thread Morten Bartholdy
ps://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__groups.google.com_&d=DwIFaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=oGDNgAaiMwEiQ-vQftI9VW4PykRgog6IwH09oHGQHdc&s=BUhHPUR9_jcH4XXM9tIEX9om2E-fLMCDPO1YZp9X0Y0&e= > > forum/#!forum/xsi_list >

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-26 Thread Morten Bartholdy
:_D > Den 25. oktober 2017 klokken 16:29 skrev Michael Amasio > : > > > Something that I find funny and then immediately sad is, if I have a dream > about winning the lottery or suddenly acquiring a billiion dollars, the > first thing I fantasize about doing isn't boarding a yacht full of > be

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-25 Thread Mirko Jankovic
Users Mailing List. > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__groups.google.com_&d=DwIFaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=aOu3WXAtDZ3O7Fzt-xVuVkRS1BmTU7nk0dhBBmrCaV8&s=LFzndMEkAw6_AcbJeZFmB65Ankm3YV2rh5

RE: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-25 Thread Andres Stephens
IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=TmRdiWvTN6QxuXia96c28dCX7DLuz6e53x9dT5inds4&s=1BaJiGJyVVOu5B0CDaMO2yAFPp91BC623yb8rauFCTs&e=<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com> Subject: Re: Softimage - not going away... I hear you, but how will you compete f

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-25 Thread Mathieu Leclaire
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Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-25 Thread Mathieu Leclaire
529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=RoNi5IeEHwl7kyWd6s1oiwvah-3eIVL1xhRX2sNW3uk&s=UTMK4Vx73y_8hRYT4uW65L9Yah6uMXr3fIKfqyhrQU0&e= *Subject:* Re: Softimage - not going away... I hear you, but how will you compete for a job when everyone else is using nail guns and you are only using a hammer? If all these new kids can

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-25 Thread Jordi Bares
le.com_forum_-23-21forum_xsi-5Flist&d=DwIFaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=QJrs1bxZsIRam1W2VAnyiENCqncwzNlJzFEYlWwRI48&s=rN3QTK9WcfCaQ-_XI-6L1Yzkf6SYU0BKHZneXMfnYeE&e= > <mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com> > S

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-25 Thread Jonathan Moore
VW4PykRgog6IwH09oHGQHdc&s=BUhHPUR9_jcH4XXM9tIEX9om2E-fLMCDPO1YZp9X0Y0&e= > forum/#!forum/xsi_list > *Subject:* Re: Softimage - not going away... > > > > I hear you, but how will you compete for a job when everyone else is using > nail guns and you are only using a hammer? If

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-25 Thread Eugene Flormata
I played with the akeytsu demo a bit, but I didn't see it any differently than the existing animation paradigm, it's just a different interface, looks like they've made some updates, so I'll take another look at it i think the most radical ways to look at future animation are mosketch (which I th

RE: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-25 Thread Sven Constable
F9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=CmolRlPA4kn-A9QxeRrxRSH0Syk1M_3Mjk6OIxd59sE&s=gwUhrGga_WyaP0poKfxTXKxi0b7DOKTTi2HxtfOw4Do&e= Subject: Re: Softimage - not going away... I hear you, but how will you compete for a job when everyone else is using nail guns and you are only

RE: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-25 Thread Tekano Bob
Interesting points Andres, wonder if Vitaly Bulgarov plans on sticking with Xsi, it looked like he used it on ghost in the Shell, so it is still a valid design tool choice on contempory film productions in the right hands. I've tried to maintain a philosophy to use the best tools for the task and

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-25 Thread Mathieu Leclaire
amp;s=SEtOI9o73TEwGHA08KO3NvtJwaKmOGuJ62-Muo34lCc&e= <mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com> *Subject: *Re: Softimage - not going away... Hi guys, I don't want to crash your rant here and hope you guys don't take offense to what I have to say. I'm sure you heard this a millio

RE: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-25 Thread Andres Stephens
o9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=db8TrB1coaRtjYPF6KcpQ2L1OK4KWigxiU2pkVIyYdc&s=h10Ve8A43Do_hfLRfqF_bi3JLDoeVSApm-JIj5OFfUE&e=<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com> Subject: Re: Softimage - not going away... Hi guys, I don't want to crash your rant here and hope you guys don't take offense to

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-25 Thread Cristobal Infante
nt.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__groups.google.com_forum_-23-21forum_xsi-5Flist&d=DwIFaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=Gb_Emr-HzoGjo5ki4TWNZ69vBhKhDEZTSDucMra7Qtk&s=UWI2gpHt4EfUs71Vjr7YUWpAylTHY1Scp10j8Dw5y30&e= > > Subject:

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-25 Thread Jordi Bares
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RE: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-25 Thread Sven Constable
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Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-25 Thread Mathieu Leclaire
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Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-25 Thread Jonathan Moore
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Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-25 Thread Mathieu Leclaire
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Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-25 Thread Mathieu Leclaire
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Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-25 Thread Mirko Jankovic
gt;> >> There are only two kinds of CG artist in the world: Those who use >> Softimage, and those who never tried. >> >> S >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Morten Bartholdy >> Reply-to: "Official Softimage Users Mailing List. >&g

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-25 Thread Olivier Jeannel
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Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-25 Thread Jean-Louis
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Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-25 Thread Ognjen Vukovic
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Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-25 Thread phil harbath
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Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-25 Thread Mathieu Leclaire
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Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-25 Thread Jean-Louis
istproc.autodesk.com > [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jean-Louis > Sent: 24 October 2017 14:17 > To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com > Subject: Softimage - not going away... > > Hi list, > > Softimage still alive and well over here at Digital Golem: &g

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-25 Thread skuby
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Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-25 Thread Stefan Kubicek
amp;e= .com/forum/#!forum/xsi_list Subject: Re: Softimage - not going away... Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 09:20:56 +0200 (CEST) Amen to that!! If I knew the people who decided to EOL Soft I would make sure they had flat tires for a year. If I knew those who designed Maya I would strongly suggest they a

RE: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-25 Thread adrian wyer
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Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-25 Thread Mirko Jankovic
well software is actual people behind it.. and SI team is destroyed, split apart and scatter around so... even if by some chance they would sell it.. but lets get real... it still could't get back on track where it was so.. yea AD did too good job at killing it.. ᐧ On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 4:29

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-25 Thread Michael Amasio
Something that I find funny and then immediately sad is, if I have a dream about winning the lottery or suddenly acquiring a billiion dollars, the first thing I fantasize about doing isn't boarding a yacht full of beautiful women, buying a mansion, or even helping my aging mother... ...It's buying

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-25 Thread Gerbrand Nel
> I read the stories by people who had the bad fortune to have to learn Maya > earlier and I have to say everything they wrote is true and then some. After > 3 months+ of everyday Maya punishment I actually only like some modeling > tools and being able to see layered textures in the viewport -

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-25 Thread skuby
Someone over at AD with some common sense should bring it back. If they did a cooperate Kickstarter to gauge interest and guarantee paid support before committing to anything -the investors/executives would be stunned at the financial response. Japan and Vancouver markets alone would be enough to

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-25 Thread Jean-Louis
Excellent - thanks! Jean-Louis Billard - Digital Golem BE: +32 (0) 484 263 563 jean-lo...@digitalgolem.com https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.digitalgolem.com_&d=DwIFaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529Ro

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-25 Thread Mirko Jankovic
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Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-25 Thread Jean-Louis
It’s getting tough finding people, but there’s still a few around. What’s trickier is getting licenses! In fact, if anyone has Softimage licenses they don’t need anymore let us know, we’d be interested in buying them. Thanks, JL Jean-Louis Billard - Digit

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-25 Thread Mirko Jankovic
"And our Maya artists are blissfully oblivious to how much easier their lives could have been if things had been different." Well this is actually big part of why maya even exists. Huge marketing, tons of free education licences and get foot into every school, get poor ppl why they are young and h

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-25 Thread Morten Bartholdy
Love to hear it. Morten > Den 24. oktober 2017 klokken 22:03 skrev Michael Amasio > : > > > Using Softimage today at Double Negative Vancouver! woot for legacy > licenses! > > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 12:59 PM, Mirko Jankovic > wrote: > > > I do believe that there is still ton of Softimage

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-25 Thread Morten Bartholdy
Amen to that!! If I knew the people who decided to EOL Soft I would make sure they had flat tires for a year. If I knew those who designed Maya I would strongly suggest they admit themselves to a mental facility. Oh, and the ones who decided to EOL Softimage I would also flog with wet newspaper

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-24 Thread Michael Amasio
Using Softimage today at Double Negative Vancouver! woot for legacy licenses! On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 12:59 PM, Mirko Jankovic wrote: > I do believe that there is still ton of Softimage people that are pushed > into hell of maya that would give a leg to have a chance to work again in > Softimag

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-24 Thread Mirko Jankovic
I do believe that there is still ton of Softimage people that are pushed into hell of maya that would give a leg to have a chance to work again in Softimage so.. :) ᐧ On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 9:47 PM, David Gallagher Softimage < davegsoftimagel...@gmail.com> wrote: > Great work! > > Big high-five

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-24 Thread David Gallagher Softimage
Great work! Big high-five for using Softimage still. I do too! Curious though, how do you handle new employees? Do you only bring in people who know Softimage already? I'm just imagining a new employee learning your pipeline with EOL software and how they handle that. On 10/24/2017 7:16 AM, J

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-24 Thread Tim Crowson
Really nice work, there! On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 9:56 AM Gregor Punchatz wrote: > Beautiful work! > > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 6:16 AM, Jean-Louis > wrote: > >> Hi list, >> >> Softimage still alive and well over here at Digital Golem: >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.dig

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-24 Thread Gregor Punchatz
Beautiful work! On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 6:16 AM, Jean-Louis wrote: > Hi list, > > Softimage still alive and well over here at Digital Golem: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.digitalgolem.com_portfolio_range-2Drover-2Dfireflies_&d=DwIFaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_I

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-24 Thread Morten Bartholdy
Redshift and Softimage is a powerful combination :) Lovely and easy to use. Morten > Den 24. oktober 2017 klokken 17:11 skrev Jean-Louis : > > > Thanks, it’s all Redshift. We’re using Arnold less and less these days. > > JL > > > Jean-Louis Billard > --

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-24 Thread Jean-Louis
Thanks, it’s all Redshift. We’re using Arnold less and less these days. JL Jean-Louis Billard - Digital Golem BE: +32 (0) 484 263 563 jean-lo...@digitalgolem.com https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.digitalgolem.com_&d=DwIFaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-24 Thread toonafish
Great stuff ! The firefly close ups are brilliant. Rendered in Arnold or Redshift ? Cheers -Ronald > On 24 Oct 2017, at 15:16, Jean-Louis wrote: > > Hi list, > > Softimage still alive and well over here at Digital Golem: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.digitalgo

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-24 Thread Morten Bartholdy
I just wish more studios had the good sense to stick with Softimage for at least some more years to come. Maya is unbearably beyond stupid. The number of workarounds and silly methodology employed is driving me insane. Morten > Den 24. oktober 2017 klokken 16:10 skrev John Clausing > : > >

Re: Softimage - not going away...

2017-10-24 Thread Morten Bartholdy
Lucky you. I am stuck in the madness they call Maya. Nice work there - I like the details and the slowmo :) Morten > Den 24. oktober 2017 klokken 15:16 skrev Jean-Louis : > > > Hi list, > > Softimage still alive and well over here at Digital Golem: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2

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