Re: [OSM-talk] contact: tags

2015-05-07 Thread Lester Caine
to manage any of that secondary data. Once one has 'website=domain' even 'phone=xxx' becomes redundant ... as does addr: ... but that is probably going a little too far since the addr: details are needed for routing to a POI. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http

Re: [Talk-GB] elsan_points

2015-05-01 Thread Lester Caine
On 30/04/15 22:49, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk mailto:les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: tag - disposal_point Values pump_out:grey (No sewage) pump_out:black(Contains Sewage) pump_out:bilge(May

Re: [OSM-talk] Next: Relation name (WAS: Removing redundant routing instructions)

2015-04-28 Thread Lester Caine
I think one simply lives with the 'strange' messages. I don't think that things like trying to create a relation are productive. Although in the UK if the street gazetteer data becomes freely usable then there will be id's that can be used after reference and name. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL

Re: [OSM-talk] Next: Relation name (WAS: Removing redundant routing instructions)

2015-04-28 Thread Lester Caine
to be a short distance down http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/285608726 and the routing software needs to understand the whole area of the junction rather than just the the common node. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic

Re: [OSM-talk] Next: Relation name (WAS: Removing redundant routing instructions)

2015-04-28 Thread Lester Caine
are difficult even to decide when there is ALSO a road going across at 90degs :) 6 roads meet offset over two or three mini-roundabouts. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve

Re: [OSM-talk] Different HOT Domains without redirect...

2015-04-28 Thread Lester Caine
. is pointless. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http

Re: [OSM-talk] Removing redundant routing instructions

2015-04-28 Thread Lester Caine
that allow all routers to be able to rely on the one set of rules? -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http

Re: [OSM-talk] Removing redundant routing instructions

2015-04-27 Thread Lester Caine
. In this case the road id provides the through_route information ... one remains on the same road ... and the straight on road has a different one which may just be 'minor road'. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine

Re: [OSM-talk] Removing redundant routing instructions

2015-04-27 Thread Lester Caine
;) -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http

Re: [OSM-talk] Removing redundant routing instructions

2015-04-27 Thread Lester Caine
On 27/04/15 16:49, pmailkeey . wrote: On 27 April 2015 at 13:52, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk mailto:les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: On 27/04/15 13:17, pmailkeey . wrote: Is the 'through route' and 'the same road' the same thing ? and does it mean that the road number

Re: [OSM-talk] Sidewalks

2015-04-25 Thread Lester Caine
we see the buildings, footpaths and grass areas ... -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk

Re: [Talk-GB] Wiki deprecation of an in-use feature

2015-04-25 Thread Lester Caine
On 25/04/15 21:09, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 12:28 PM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk mailto:les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: Bryce ... you still have to make the case for 'special cases'. There is no reason to have two tags for many of these amenities. That's

Re: [OSM-talk] how do i get a mapper to engage with the community over mass imports?

2015-04-24 Thread Lester Caine
and perhaps the fact that this is missing is good enough reason not to allow the import. Particularly if the buildings removed did have addresses? -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk

Re: [Talk-GB] Labelling a greasy spoon caff

2015-04-24 Thread Lester Caine
stops, but you are right that there does not seem to be anything actually documented for this type of establishment. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http

Re: [Talk-GB] Labelling a greasy spoon caff

2015-04-24 Thread Lester Caine
render confusingly with permanently located features. Mobile catering is NOT the sort of greasy_spoon we are talking about. These are sit down cafes serving mainly a full English greasy breakfast. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page

Re: [OSM-talk] how do i get a mapper to engage with the community over mass imports?

2015-04-24 Thread Lester Caine
becomes an Ixxx.yyy and all of the generic tagging can be accessed via that. We can then more easily see what is 'managed import' over manual data. In the case of the LINZ data for instance adding address information could be directed to the relevant support list? -- Lester Caine - G8HFL

Re: [Talk-GB] elsan_points

2015-04-23 Thread Lester Caine
://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Pumpout was rejected because it was 'only for boats' or very strangely 'recycling'. I suppose we could hook the black waste direct into the bio-digester ;) -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact

Re: [Talk-GB] elsan_points

2015-04-23 Thread Lester Caine
not sure just what is a suitable alternative to correctly tag the facilities I've got survey notes on for our local caravan sites ... what would have been legal as an elsan_point in the past would probably be shut down by the local council today anyway! -- Lester Caine - G8HFL

Re: [Talk-GB] elsan_points

2015-04-23 Thread Lester Caine
with the correct values may be a more generic solution to the problem. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop

Re: [Talk-GB] elsan_points

2015-04-22 Thread Lester Caine
page is now in French, German, English and Russian. 'dump' just sounds wrong ... disposal would be better, but effluent_disposal_point is I think a little more generic. sanitary is more generally related to female related disposal. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact

Re: [Talk-GB] elsan_points

2015-04-22 Thread Lester Caine
at the outset to help mappers outwith the British Isles, but the current suggestion really doesnt help either. I knew I'd seen disposal used for chemical toilets ... https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=disposal#keys -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http

Re: [Talk-GB] Canal River Trust maps

2015-04-03 Thread Lester Caine
On 03/04/15 14:38, pmailkeey . wrote: OSM's actually global, Brian. And other countries handle their area of the map with a lot more active support. All we are talking about here is UK data on the UK list. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki

Re: [Talk-GB] Canal River Trust maps

2015-04-02 Thread Lester Caine
that is simply missing or incorrect on google can be replaced with much more accurate local views :) Certainly the paths and access to the navigable sections of canals and rivers around here are currently totally blank on the google version. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL

Re: [Talk-GB] Is a saddlery limited to horses? (BE English)

2015-03-08 Thread Lester Caine
of crossover between leather workers. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow

Re: [Talk-GB] Disclaimer

2015-01-28 Thread Lester Caine
wanted to build. I had to dig down and show that we were clear of that drain ... except it was 6' further over ... right under the corner of the garage. So now there is a wooden porch which can be taken down if they need access. Bottom line - even the OS maps can't be taken as accurate! -- Lester Caine

Re: [OSM-talk] MEP - pipelines

2015-01-09 Thread Lester Caine
the 'subscribed' list of accepted entries, and perhaps indicate where an update to one tag also needs secondary tags. One subscribes to a tag metadata mechanism which provides updates at one of two levels ... the metadata for the tag has changed, or data related to a particular tag has changed. -- Lester

Re: [OSM-talk] MEP - pipelines

2015-01-06 Thread Lester Caine
of tags. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http

[OSM-talk] Maps in Malta

2015-01-05 Thread Lester Caine
to get to the right road. Not sure there is an easy way to enhance the display to show the 'angle' of the road but had a good time helped by well detailed mapping data. Thanks to those who contributed it. ( Am looking to OSMAND as a means of creating other map displays ) -- Lester Caine - G8HFL

Re: [OSM-talk] Request for feedback: new building colours in openstreetmap-carto

2015-01-05 Thread Lester Caine
contrast - only the new one is causing difficulty - and comments from others! -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital

Re: [OSM-talk] New building colour

2015-01-04 Thread Lester Caine
different languages and styles can be selected. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk

Re: [OSM-talk] New building colour

2015-01-04 Thread Lester Caine
the adjacent buildings are another areas that needs properly fixing! What works well for one country and style of mapping simply fails in many others. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk

Re: [OSM-talk] New building colour

2015-01-04 Thread Lester Caine
rendering ... -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http

Re: [Talk-GB] RFC-3 Mechanical edit: UK Shop Names

2014-12-18 Thread Lester Caine
IS the proper mechanism, even if not ideal. I do try and keep those down in my local area. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital

Re: [OSM-talk] Request for feedback: new building colours in openstreetmap-carto

2014-11-27 Thread Lester Caine
established that a zoom level should use the icon OMLY when the name is not displayed, and if there is no icon don't just display a dot :( -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk

Re: [OSM-talk] Request for feedback: new building colours in openstreetmap-carto

2014-11-27 Thread Lester Caine
On 27/11/14 09:42, Matthijs Melissen wrote: On 27 Nov 2014 09:18, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk mailto:les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: Not sure your demo is proving anything. Zooming in on the area covered by the demo on the live map I'm not seeing very much of the corruptions Have their been

Re: [Talk-GB] Suburbs in London/Brum - big edits

2014-11-20 Thread Lester Caine
, and unless someone else gets there first I will revert the Hayes one in line with the one the ground situation ... just can't get JOSM running here at the moment :( -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http

Re: [Talk-GB] Suburbs in London/Brum - big edits

2014-11-19 Thread Lester Caine
, the origin is still accurate and relevant on the ground. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk

Re: [Talk-GB] Suburbs in London/Brum - big edits

2014-11-19 Thread Lester Caine
' if these ARE in the city of London, or just part of the 'county' of Metropolitan London? -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop

Re: [Talk-GB] Suburbs in London/Brum - big edits

2014-11-19 Thread Lester Caine
... It has signposts on the ground directing you to the town centre! Just as has been pointed out on a number of other 'towns' in proximity to London. We map the real situation on the ground - full stop. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact

Re: [Talk-GB] Suburbs in London/Brum - big edits

2014-11-19 Thread Lester Caine
being applied without any reference to the on the ground situation ... -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop

Re: [Talk-GB] Suburbs in London/Brum - big edits

2014-11-19 Thread Lester Caine
included! -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http

[Talk-GB] Different styles of annotation.

2014-11-13 Thread Lester Caine
. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk

Re: [Talk-GB] Different styles of annotation.

2014-11-13 Thread Lester Caine
unreadable stuff against the somewhat better older style. Your example is even worse than all the ones I've been looking at, probably because most of them are now unreadable on my smartphone! And even on full expansion I can't read them on a 24 monitor :( -- Lester Caine - G8HFL

Re: [Talk-GB] NLS Historical Maps

2014-11-13 Thread Lester Caine
but as the tile joints don't quite match, pulling the overlay a touch would allow a lot of field and property boundaries to be added but a lot of existing data overlies the old map exactly. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine

Re: [Talk-GB] RFC-2 mechanical edit: UK shop names

2014-11-05 Thread Lester Caine
the years, some stores may still be in an older livery, and in my book even the capitalization is important in that! Flag them for checking - yes - change them without any reference to the site - no. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page

Re: [Talk-GB] RFC-2 mechanical edit: UK shop names

2014-11-04 Thread Lester Caine
of many brands. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http

Re: [Talk-GB] RFC-2 mechanical edit: UK shop names

2014-11-04 Thread Lester Caine
would get a definitive statement on that ... -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk

Re: [Talk-GB] RFC-2 mechanical edit: UK shop names

2014-11-04 Thread Lester Caine
'documentary' tags, it's just the name tag which is contentious here. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http

Re: [OSM-talk] Changeset comment function

2014-11-03 Thread Lester Caine
be hammered out then committed once agreed ... rather than pulling it apart in later discussions on that changeset? -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http

Re: [OSM-talk] Changeset comment function

2014-11-02 Thread Lester Caine
initiate. I would probably go on to propose that grouping a large number of similar but data wise unrelated changes be flagged as bad practice so that elements of a change CAN be discussed better via this mechanism. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki

Re: [Talk-GB] Voting mechanical edit: UK shop names

2014-11-02 Thread Lester Caine
the door to correcting any collateral damage more easily. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http

Re: [Talk-GB] Voting mechanical edit: UK shop names

2014-11-01 Thread Lester Caine
to 'dictate' what is acceptable content it should be managed properly rather than blindly re-writing tags. I'm not saying that the changes are wrong ... just that this is not the right method to get things done. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page

Re: [Talk-GB] Voting mechanical edit: UK shop names

2014-11-01 Thread Lester Caine
of the identified 'problems' resulted in a message to the original editor asking them to check rather than blindly making an executive decision that something has to be wrong :( Yes we want consistent data, but that is not achieved by blindly making it consistent ... -- Lester Caine - G8HFL

Re: [Talk-GB] Voting mechanical edit: UK shop names

2014-10-31 Thread Lester Caine
with the name they are using ... -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital

Re: [Talk-GB] addressing (was addr:place)

2014-10-27 Thread Lester Caine
, cycletrack and the like! -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media

Re: [Talk-GB] addressing (was addr:place)

2014-10-27 Thread Lester Caine
! Properties are grouped by the delivery area footprint covered by sorting offices which in some areas may not align even with local ward boundaries! There have been some examples given of different area postcodes for different sides of a street in the past. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL

Re: [Talk-GB] addressing (was addr:place)

2014-10-26 Thread Lester Caine
' model. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http

Re: [Talk-GB] Confused over access...

2014-10-18 Thread Lester Caine
/file/194259/PSV_Operator_Licensing_Guide.pdf documents the minefield, but does not identify who can and can't use UK restricted roads :) -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk

Re: [Talk-GB] Deletions and newbie editors

2014-10-06 Thread Lester Caine
On 06/10/14 09:26, David Woolley wrote: On 05/10/14 22:28, Lester Caine wrote: All achievable if the API monitors the constraints on relations and checks that what JOSM submits is complete. That would represent a radical change in design philosophy. At the moment, the code behind the API

Re: [Talk-GB] Deletions and newbie editors

2014-10-06 Thread Lester Caine
will include the state_date tag and so filtering that can happen locally, but adding the essentially quite small amount of historic changes is not so easy to achieve? -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http

Re: [Talk-GB] Vandalism in London

2014-10-05 Thread Lester Caine
does create a conflict because the relation is now broken? -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http

Re: [Talk-GB] Deletions and newbie editors

2014-10-05 Thread Lester Caine
is simply adding the correct start date to already mapped existing objects! -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop

Re: [Talk-GB] Deletions and newbie editors

2014-10-05 Thread Lester Caine
On 05/10/14 21:43, David Woolley wrote: On 05/10/14 14:11, Lester Caine wrote: Which sort of ties in with my constraints on relations. If an edit is breaking something it's easy enough to say unable to proceed because ... but ideally the API should be able to find a new missing bit and add

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding Wikidata tags to 70k items automatically

2014-09-01 Thread Lester Caine
to obtain timezone data for OSM. If wikidata is so open, then every tag added here should have the reciprocal tag added there, then I'll believe it's worth using :) -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding Wikidata tags to 70k items automatically

2014-08-31 Thread Lester Caine
downloading yet another layer of data into the core database. That OSM does not have a reliable id for POI's may be the problem here, but adding tags for every other database in OSM is not the solution to that? -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding Wikidata tags to 70k items automatically

2014-08-31 Thread Lester Caine
to the intended use. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http

Re: [OSM-talk] Detrimental to the OSM database

2014-08-24 Thread Lester Caine
On 23/08/14 16:29, Clifford Snow wrote: On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 2:20 AM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk mailto:les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: http://openstreetmap.us/iD/release/#background=Bingmap=17.00/-83.15249/36.43657 is the one I'm currently on and leaving as it's impossible

Re: [OSM-talk] Detrimental to the OSM database

2014-08-24 Thread Lester Caine
inappropriate for other, so 'challenges' should be restricted to the areas where those rules are known to work well, rather than simply blindly applying them world wide? -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services

Re: [OSM-talk] Detrimental to the OSM database

2014-08-24 Thread Lester Caine
On 24/08/14 11:45, Paul Norman wrote: On 8/24/2014 2:48 AM, Lester Caine wrote: It's not the 'brightness - it's the compressed contrast which is has always been the problem with iD. maproulette does not link to potlatch2 which I'd normally use when not on a system with JOSM running ... iD

Re: [OSM-talk] Detrimental to the OSM database

2014-08-23 Thread Lester Caine
because it does not follow the programmers arbitrarily defined rules. This is DEFINITELY not something that should be rolled out blindly across all countries as certainly ome ARE now adding very fine detail over the top of the originally crude tracing! -- Lester Caine - G8HFL

Re: [OSM-talk] Detrimental to the OSM database

2014-08-23 Thread Lester Caine
of the list on maproulette applied to the UK and I'm sure other European countries would feel the same? We have some very fine detail now being mapped and any smoothing algorithm wuold have to be very cleaver not to affect that. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http

Re: [OSM-talk] Detrimental to the OSM database

2014-08-23 Thread Lester Caine
On 23/08/14 09:47, Lester Caine wrote: On 23/08/14 09:16, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: I object to someone telling me that a road needs 'smoothing' ... it may well have very well mapped source data, and someone who does not know that will be stripping data simply because it does

Re: [OSM-talk] online survey about the OSM community

2014-08-20 Thread Lester Caine
:) -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk

Re: [OSM-talk] online survey about the OSM community

2014-08-19 Thread Lester Caine
On 19/08/14 17:47, OSMR wrote: Thank you in advance for your potential participation and apologies for the lengthy message in case you are not interested. I gave up before I got half way - just seems like a load of useless crap? Anybody actually managed the whole thing? -- Lester Caine

Re: [OSM-talk] online survey about the OSM community

2014-08-19 Thread Lester Caine
like a sore thumb ... -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http

Re: [OSM-talk] UK is turning blue?

2014-08-18 Thread Lester Caine
On 18/08/14 13:18, moltonel 3x Combo wrote: The endless rain of 2014 might though ;-) :-) Hit refresh, it seems to be fixed now. Nope. Still raining outside. Dry inside and out here ... all looking fine. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk

Re: [OSM-talk] extracts for historical views at a specific point in time

2014-08-14 Thread Lester Caine
of the planet file, but the last one in the archive is 14-Sep-2012 and then they are weekly from then. Extracting your arget area and then rendering a map from it just follows the same process as working with the current data. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http

Re: [Talk-GB] C roads again

2014-08-13 Thread Lester Caine
should I at a new destination and we are talking a several mile detour here which can add 30mins to the journey. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http

Re: [Talk-GB] UK addresses

2014-08-13 Thread Lester Caine
that is required since the rest can be cloned from the postcode - or some other unique ID for the related object. The structure should support this method of working and then editors could pull up matching data where necessary. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http

Re: [Talk-GB] C roads again

2014-08-13 Thread Lester Caine
On 13/08/14 08:20, Tom Hughes wrote: On 13/08/14 07:37, Lester Caine wrote: On a slightly different tack, the tertiary road designation is more of a problem. While not advocating 'tag for routing', this is one that is making my own use of OSMAND almost impossible, and I can't believe others

Re: [Talk-GB] UK addresses

2014-08-13 Thread Lester Caine
On 13/08/14 08:58, David Woolley wrote: On 13/08/14 08:29, Lester Caine wrote: rest can be cloned from the postcode - or some other unique ID for the related object. Only if you have purchased access to the PAF or National Gazeteer. Capture of the former, on OSM, is patchy

Re: [Talk-GB] C roads again

2014-08-13 Thread Lester Caine
there may be several postcodes for a single identified street. It's the NSG that is primary in defining road works locations these days. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk

Re: [Talk-GB] UK addresses

2014-08-13 Thread Lester Caine
but it's perhaps surprising that many objects that have their own postcode are not currently included when that information is available in the original sources. I've just added Ragley Hall postcode but a number of the locations I look at Monday it was missing. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL

Re: [Talk-GB] Licences for Highways and PRoW data (Was: C roads again)

2014-08-13 Thread Lester Caine
Local Street Gazetteer and both of these then feed into the National version. The NSG is a believe part of 'The New Roads and Street Works Act 1991' https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/street-works-co-ordination for some light reading ... -- Lester Caine - G8HFL

Re: [Talk-GB] UK addresses

2014-08-13 Thread Lester Caine
some time soon we will have open access to that information to mess things up again. The problem is that using this much more consistent id is not something humans will be comfortable with :( -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact

Re: [Talk-GB] Licences for Highways and PRoW data (Was: C roads again)

2014-08-13 Thread Lester Caine
of 'The New Roads and Street Works Act 1991' https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/street-works-co-ordination for some light reading ... -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk

Re: [Talk-GB] UK addresses

2014-08-13 Thread Lester Caine
... -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http

Re: [Talk-GB] City names translation

2014-08-06 Thread Lester Caine
that makes up for this but given the large size of some key text it will take a while to populate :( There are a lot of third party tools but no coordination on managing the translation data. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine

Re: [Talk-GB] City names translation

2014-08-06 Thread Lester Caine
in OSM, not one that may change when people make mistakes changing other data :) -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital

Re: [Talk-GB] City names translation

2014-08-05 Thread Lester Caine
may be missing here is if google is getting english-to-ukrainian wrong? -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop

Re: [Talk-GB] A431 toll road

2014-08-04 Thread Lester Caine
to Bath could really do with a proper set of dual carriageways from the M4 and going across Bristol to the M5. I frequent that area on business quite often, and am using tertiary roads most of the time simply to get into one side of the distruption, even before the road was closed. -- Lester Caine

Re: [Talk-GB] City names translation

2014-08-04 Thread Lester Caine
in a different alphabet is something that the renderer can do if required. But this is a discussion for the international list rather than just the UK? -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http

Re: [Talk-GB] NaPTAN (stop) import

2014-08-01 Thread Lester Caine
copy of what was imported. What is available and easily accessible is growing daily ... but it does not need to be all imported into one database :) -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http

Re: [Talk-GB] NaPTAN (stop) import

2014-08-01 Thread Lester Caine
nice to hear that OSM is providing a stable base to work from, and since your own data needs to be accurate OSM benefits in return. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve

Re: [Talk-GB] NaPTAN (stop) import

2014-07-31 Thread Lester Caine
that could be developed with data management tools that would then be usable with other data sets such as lamp posts, post boxes, telephone distribution cabinets and the like? -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic

Re: [Talk-GB] New mapper has imported all Nottingham street lights

2014-07-30 Thread Lester Caine
in this case reverting was just petty ... and that this data should be put back ... -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers

Re: [Talk-GB] Getting Highway Agency information into OSM

2014-07-06 Thread Lester Caine
properly. But I've yet to get my own copy to even route properly yet via B and 'C' roads. It takes me on a 9 mile detour going north from here :( -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes

2014-06-11 Thread Lester Caine
mentioned the postman walking up the street - well I guess you could say that the walk also includes the driveway up to the front of each house/letterbox. Whether nominatim works or not is a search problem, not a mapping one (i.e. not mapping for the nominatim). -- Lester Caine - G8HFL

[Talk-GB] Duff data on facebook

2014-06-09 Thread Lester Caine
created for 'Worcestershire', but even these are now being redirected to the 'correct' master according to Facebook. Can anybody throw ANY light on to why they insistthat their data is the correct view? -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page

Re: [Talk-GB] Duff data on facebook

2014-06-09 Thread Lester Caine
the corrections have been replaced by further links to Gloucestershire :( Croudsourcing only works if there is someone bothering to fix the problems ... -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk

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