Judy, I have to break my silence to compliment you
on your cool thumbnail sketches! I mean it. They are delicious and so quotable.
I cracked up reading them, especially the ones about Lance and G. It's good to
see ourselves through the eyes of another. We are a pretty ridiculous
bunch!
Deb
In the first sincere but light-hearted reaction to
Judy's sketches, I didn't say all that I mean. Right after the laughter, I read
the list again and was overcome with a tidal wave of affection--a sense of
the utter dearness of all of the people mentioned below (and that isn't intended
to ex
One line I have trouble with in the second review is: "Upon publication of
this book, McLaren is going to find out who...the real Christians in his
midst are." How the hell will he know?
Debbie
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To:
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I was suspecting he was going to take the other neat route:
negative review of my book = not a real Christian
Debbie
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To:
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 4:33 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: McLaren Reviews
Debb
ï
Sorry, I already deleted all the messages
about marriage, so I'm stuck starting a new thread.
JD, I'm intrigued by your post about waiting till
the 24th. I guess the point would be the participation of the believing
community, since no marriage is an island. But surely God is witness to th
'scuse me, that's Bruce Cockburn, pls, or T.S.
Eliot, or Hopkins, or at the very least Jane Kenyon. thx
Debbie
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I had this draft sitting in my Draft box, which
I'll post now even though the poll has been counted. I am sure the gate to the
fold is not locked yet. Paragraphs are answers to Caroline's
questions.
Universal. For the whole cosmos. I think the
limited atonement idea comes from a concern t
That is just the point. Far from demonizing
the law, the love of Christ, which we who are indwelt by him should expect
to begin to embody, surpasses and hence supersedes the law.
But by the same token, this law-superseding love is
shown to us as well. Our failures to embody it are not a qu
JD
wrote: In the Revelation, the "forces of evil" and the "forces of good"
are hugh.
I
feel sorry for Hugh.
Debbie
triumphs and struggles, ehhh? (Sorry,
just baiting!)
I like your encouraging people to participate and
minister with their gifts. Even "church
church" services could give more opportunity for this. In my current church
(where I don't fit very well, on many counts) the sermon has been e
JD, bless him, has momentarily lapsed into
Momspeak. Just like people never do anything naked but "run around", and radios
are never merely on, they're always "blaring".
Debbie
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Took the words right out of my mouth.
Debbie
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From:
Caroline
Wong
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 9:23
AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re [Truth Talk]
Saved -- Salvation -- and the pigpen
Would it be fair
Maybe, then, Judy, we needn't even bother to read
the Bible in our own language. We could "read" it in Inuktitut and the Holy
Spirit could just siphon the content into our brains without ANY of the normal
means of linguistic processing.
The point being (as laid out in an
earlier post) tha
tual
content.
They are spiritually discerned, what can a dead man understand?
Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:41:30 -0400 "Debbie Sawczak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Maybe, then, Judy, we n
earned to read the KJV of all versions. I'll bet with
all her handicaps and lack of context, she could not get it as well as you
learned theolog's. It is just that you wouldn't know it by meeting her, she
was the sweetest christian lady. Debbie Sawczak
<[EMAIL PROTECTED
Izzy, I bet you were a marvellous parent. That's
because (as I imagine it) your discipline always presupposed the
continuation of the relationship, and your kids knew it without doubt. You never
said, "Now you're not my son anymore till you say Sorry and do the chores like I
told you." Right
JT wrote: When I look at his picture I see a wounded
boy but since the Lord doesn't break a bruised reed or
quench burning flax there is hope for him -
This is about the coolest thing you have written, Judy.
Debbie
Izzy wrote: There is much truth that can be
extracted from other [insert: readings of the Bible] if one is not
fearful of their misunderstanding of [insert:
anything].
And this is a cool thing too. As for your other message
about not needing to pity people with other views of God, you are
JT wrote: If I were a betting person I would wager that
Pascal's faith was the dead kind
Good thing you're not.
Debbie
You mean we have to use hermeneutics even to
properly understand our transparent peer, Caroline, who lives in our very own
culture and time and writes in our very own language?? Drag! :-)
Hey, speaking of hermeneutics, what is all this
Bulk Bulk Bulk in the subject lines? Is this because pe
I am tempted to say that the other reason they
didn't was all that they knew of the enormousness of your love for them, but I
know that's not necessarily true in all cases. People do say No, even
to the most loving parents, even to the most loving God.
Glad you can continue to rejoice in yo
unto you they are SPIRIT"
This is exactly why the learned have no
understanding of the spiritual content.
They are spiritually discerned, what can a dead man
understand?
Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
This cool phenomenon is well-known but
nonetheless interesting. There is a lot of redundancy built into linguistic
systems to maximize communication, especially at the lowest levels of structure,
like spelling and phonology. I have a phonological example of this, which I
won't post because i
Hey, you must be using the same translation I
am!
Debbie
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Deegan
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 1:02
PM
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Re
[Truth Talk] Saved -- Salvation -- and th...
I am not well enough informed to say anything with
great confidence about this in regard to warfare with demons, but I do get the
impression from Scripture that our spiritual strength is not precisely in
numbers. I would agree with you there. However, it does seem that God's
design is for us
Hmm. I wonder if that's true about Peter and Paul.
There are many gifts, but the same Spirit. I don't know if he uses the
intelligent ones more; he uses them more for certain kinds of work, I guess--the
kind that requires intelligence--and you're right, they are accountable
to do it. And he
We are all in danger of mistaking
something else for God and loving it instead; you could say that this is the
definition of the fallen human condition. It is not only liberals (none of whom
are on TT anyway, so I hope the below wasn't aimed at anybody) who are open
to this. It often seems t
Regarding the below...yes, their relationship with Jesus
(which, Izzy, involves his "indwelling presence"), shared as members of a
community.
The original point, if I recall the distant beginning of this
thread correctly, is not that we have less than Scripture, but that we
have more than
No, we won't agree on a lot of things, and that's
part of my point. As for honourable correction & exhortation if
necessary--absolutely, Terry, and with thanksgiving! All the more as we see
the Day approaching. We hear the ring of genuine love for God in the most
diverse voices on TT.
OK,
I don't know Debbie because I'm not sure
what you are saying; I believe that God supervised what is now called the
canon and I accept the scriptures
available to me in my generation as His Word and every bit as authoritative
today as when given at Mt. Sinai. So what is the problem here? Do
It is a long story. Perhaps I'll send you an
attachment off list. I did not accomplish it. (Your choice of words is
telling, BTW.) God accomplished it. I have been very unclear if it seems I
am trying to rule out Scripture! (I think I said not less than
Scripture, but more than Scripture.) I
I have gone back to your post a
few times to think about and digest it, JD, and I am particularly appreciating
the section below:
Debbie
I see an individual reality and a corporate resulting (a
continuing action) described here in this Galatian passage.
It is something that happens
I am not playing.
Debbie
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From:
Caroline
Wong
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 1:01
AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] More wisdom from
Dallas Willard
I didn't know we were in a competition. What is
the goal
dies say physically
punishing a child does more harm than good.
Love,
Caroline
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From:
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To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 10:19
AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] More wisdom
If all your other writings stem from
an equal degree of sheer ignorance, I now know what to do with them. This is a
sad surprise.
Debbie
David writes, re Caroline: I would not want to be you when you > fall on
your face before the throne of God to be judged by Jesus Christ for > the
w
Today in the bookstore there were two little glass
angels, both broken. The right wing of each had perished in the process of
unpacking.
You know this is a clear political sign from God,
eh.
Debbie
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From:
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To: TruthTalk
Sent: Tu
Well, that would certainly be preferable to reading
it after.
Are you folk down there familiar with the Monty
Python sketch titled Four Yorkshiremen?
You were lucky to have an outhouse and a catalogue.
We had a little clump of bushes, and used the leaves.
Debbie
- Original Mess
Debbie Sawczak wrote:
Well, that would certainly be preferable to
reading it after.
Are you folk down there familiar with the Monty
Python sketch titled Four Yorkshiremen?
You were lucky to have an outhouse and a
catalogue. We had a little
LOL! You hit the nail on the head.
D
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From:
Lance
Muir
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 5:24
AM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Saved
- Salvation
As opposed to what?..Virginians with
agendas
Hi David,
I am happy to clear this up; thanks for asking.
First, I do believe I am accountable to God for how I live, but I admit
that on the question of exactly when and how (and how often?) I will be called
to account, my thinking is in flux. But even if I had a definite idea on that, I
I'm posting to this one of Bill's,
below, because it contains a great example, but my reply is
motivated by all the recent fury about translations and agendas
and interpretation. It will likely elicit the usual reactions.
All translators must make choices all the time.
That's not an opinio
out.
God
If you translate thru your powers of your flesh or if you talk of a
technical manual or Ad campaign your points have weight but not with God. You
view many things thru the eyes of an unbeliever. With God all things are
possible. God is able to get his very words to any man no m
What a perfect, relevant, and
thorough example! Thank you, Bill.
Debbie
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From:
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Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 9:19
PM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re:
[TruthTalk] Saved - Salvation
imagine there must still be an appreciable gap between you
and perfection, yet I don't hear any sorrow or longing over that.
But perhaps if I encountered you in person, I would see and hear you
differently.
Debbie
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From:
Debbie Sawczak
To: Trut
Also, Judy, it grieves me that you would think you
are taken less seriously because you are a woman. Nothing could be further from
the truth, for my part.
Debbie
JD, your affirmation is most bracing.
Thanks.
Debbie
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From:
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Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 9:52
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] the document
known as Seven
See, this is what kills me abo
Judy, you're partly right: I overstated it
when I said that there is absolutely no difference between "#$%&
you" and "You are of your father the devil". I really meant they are potentially
the same when used to express a certain attitude towards the other person and
ourselves. The same in th
Yay!
DS
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From:
Lance
Muir
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 5:26
PM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] New
Bible provokes gender wars
God
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From:
Kevin Deegan
What I am appreciating about you, Terry, is that
(unlike some) you recognize common ground when you see it.
Debbie
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From:
Terry Clifton
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 9:42
PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk Ar
David wrote:> > You have never met me, so
what do you think you know about my character?>
Probably the same order of things you purport
to know about other TT characters, David, without ever having met
them. Except that, as with biblical interpretation, your surmises are (oddly)
always righ
Hi David,
1. Why "flux": As has already been established
ad nauseam, I disagree with you about biblical interpretation: I
think it happens, and you don't. (Or is it that you think you always interpret
aright? I forget.) You think it's possible to be certain about most
everything, and I don
On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 09:52:50 -0400 "Debbie Sawczak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Judy, you're partly right: I overstated it
when I said that there is absolutely no difference between
"#$%& you" and "You are of your father the devil&qu
David writes:> Do you, Debbie, think
that my character refutes my doctrine? How?> Well, come to think of it, David, I guess you might be meeting
your very own standard quite perfectly. That's something, anyway. Bravo!
Debbie
The most beautiful word of all is you.
This is the word of relationship, of looking into another face, of thanking,
inviting, asking ("What do you mean?"), forgiving, permitting ("Of course you
may"), admiring, encouraging, assigning, begging, giving ("This is for you"),
serving, reaching, s
David, I am not understanding how you can say
"sanctification is not a process", and yet that "holiness is a growth process"
and that a work has been begun in you which is not yet complete.
Since I don't really know your heart, I must give
the benefit of the doubt and accept that all your
David,
I said (in a post I haven't seen come through yet) that I wasn't going to
talk for a while, but so as not to seem to ignore you, I will point out that
I am agreeing with you below. The two ways of speaking are the same in the
same way (and to the same extent) that calling our brother a fo
Your question, Izzy, recalls one that was asked a
while ago, namely, Why are we so polarized on TT? It's because we are always
reacting. I think some of us conservative-type believers on TT dwell on
God's love for the disobedient because we've experienced a severe neglect
of this in our own
Judy, when I say "focus" I'm not talking about
visualization or concentration. I'm talking about staking my life on the fact
that God loves us, letting God's love be my "ground". Then that shapes how I see
myself and other people. Yes, the walk is supernatural, and by faith.
Thankfully, we h
David wrote:
> But this is ultimately what we all should be
looking forward to, the day > when our bodies are discarded for new ones,
built in the image of Christ, > according to his new resurrected
glory.
Absolutely anticipating that Day
(read on below), although it's transformed that o
God would convert the both of them to a third point
of view.
Debbie
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From:
Judy
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 6:54
PM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk]
T
I agree that
just about everybody is in some very important sense a theologian--in the same
sense, in fact, in which everyone is a philosopher or is religious, and that
this doesn't make such terms meaningless. It is good to remind people that
there is not a whole lot of difference between t
> Debbie wrote:>> ... it's transformed
that our bodies will be, not>> "discarded".> > Good
point, but doesn't transformation of this sort truly imply a discarding >
of our bodies?
DS: No. Except in a somewhat strained
sense of discarding "the way our bodies were". It is quite hard to e
suggested, it is probable that even those who wrote
Scripture down did not have all of the meaning of it in their
heads...
Debbie
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Debbie Sawczak
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 2:37
PM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] [
An honour, sir.
Debbie
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From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 4:39 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw:
Torrance
> Debbie, yet again, I stand corrected. Thanks for helping me
think out my > word
ï
Congratulations, John, on the upcoming
father-in-law-hood--no, it's father-in-grace, isn't it? :-)
I am confident that what you are given to say
tomorrow will be a source of blessing both to others and to you. God wrap you in
himself.
Debbie
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From:
They take pretty good care of their lawns,
houses, cars, fingernails, and RRSPs too.
I think the imminent and total destruction of the
earth (according to the premil dispensationalist view) is just a convenient
excuse for not doing what is really hard to do. Not
caring for the earth follow
that
Dr.(?) LaHaye received $45,000,000 for his next co-written trilogy. His great,
great, great, great, great, great .grandchildren may benefit
'greatly'.
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From:
Debbie Sawczak
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Se
out to use up the
alphabet!
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Debbie Sawczak
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: May 01, 2005 14:19
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re:
[TruthTalk] Fw: NT Wright - Farewell to the Rapture
Everybody ne
disappeared.
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From:
Debbie Sawczak
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 1:44
PM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re:
[TruthTalk] Fw: NT Wright - Farewell to the Rapture
You too? We can always re
Those are my people, eh. Jonathan B. Martin, whose
blacksmith shop used to be on the main drag there (until he died and it was
taken over by some young upstarts), was my mother's uncle. The third house on
the left, when you are coming into the village from the south, was my mom's
childhood (
Izzy, that must have been a sight to
behold.
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ShieldsFamily
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 7:51 PM
Subject: [TruthTalk] Quilt Show
I just got back from
helping with the taking down our biannual Thimble
Who was the shortest man in the Bible? Bildad the Shuhite.
My dad's (may he rest in peace) favourite Bible joke.
Debbie
--
"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you
ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org
If you do no
a sudden, don't
you?
Go ahead
WHY?
Debbie Sawczak
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Well, you know why it's so quiet
on TT all of a sudden, don't you?
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Here is another question that was never answered by
any who were party to the conversation.
Debbie
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From:
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To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 9:11 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] baptism
If I might step betw
About this Titus thing, Kevin, I don't see what the
problem is. Is anyone suggesting it's impossible to learn about
another culture so as to come to an understanding of it? No, exactly the
contrary. Titus was surely amenable to such learning. (Are you?) He also
had the slight advantage of li
By "What is your spin?" do you simply mean "What do
you believe?" Just checking. I kind of remember you using "spin" negatively with
reference to Watts.
Yes, people do use being human as an excuse.
Humanity has been broken for so long, and the story of what we were made to be
(and what we
6, 2005 3:24 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Rikk Watts on
Genesis 1
On Thu, 5 May 2005 23:14:06 -0400 "Debbie Sawczak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Yes, people do use being human as an excuse.
Humanity has been broken for so long, and the story of what we wer
2005 08:58:50 -0400 "Debbie Sawczak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Judy, I will be more blunt.
Good Debbie, it's always better
to be up front and let us get to know the real you.
Dear, it has been the real me all
along. Less or more blunt does
I know. First somebody says the rain is "coming
down", then they say the rain is "wet". Isn't that doublespeak? They should make
up their minds!
Debbie
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From:
Judy
Taylor
To: truthtalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 11:51 AM
Su
On Thu, 5 May 2005 23:14:06 -0400 "Debbie Sawczak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
But I remember, now, that you have a very different idea of the body, and it
was talked about at some length on TT not long ago. (Remember
the
and rest a
bit before making a better attempt at responding to your messages later this
weekend. Truly sorry about that.
Debbie
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From:
Debbie Sawczak
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 5:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re:
u too hard?
judyt
On Fri, 6 May 2005 19:48:52 -0400 "Debbie Sawczak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Hey, Judy,
I see, on rereading, that I allowed irritation
and impatience to strongly influence the content of my two most recent
posts to this thread. I
I don't subscribe to double
predestination, but I don't think Calvin's followers are idiots or
deceived, at least no more than the rest of us! And probably less so. There is a
great deal more to Calvinism than this. To return to a previous analogy: our
careful theologies are like various c
You guys are just pretending (for fun) not to
know that the word is "aspersions", right?
Debbie
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From:
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To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 1:31 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]
Dispersions
DAVEH: Hmm...Now th
IMO, this is the best piece of writing you've done
on TT, Kevin. It was really interesting, and gave me a bigger window onto who
you are.
Debbie
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From:
Kevin
Deegan
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 9:18
PM
Subj
This is the key that captures the
piece:
working from the whole to the parts to the whole
again.
writer! Ruben another (Street
Preacher) wrote this piece see the ending.
Debbie Sawczak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
IMO, this is the best piece of writing you've
done on TT, Kevin. It was really interesting, and gave me a bigger window
onto who you are.
of that tradition and I haven't seen it to
the same extent among other evangelicals, at least not until very
recently.
Debbie
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From:
Debbie Sawczak
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Trut
Those are the "contemporary followers of Calvin" I
was describing. However, caution: there are many branches of Reformed (as there
are of most Protestant traditions or superdenominations!), including some very
legalistic and doctrinaire ones, and at the other end some quite liberal
ones. Als
I am a fan of the First Ladies Detective Agency
too. I found Life of Pi highly readable and interesting, but ultimately
disappointing. Raises an important philosophical issue but doesn't do so in
a very satisfying way. Also, note that the edition published in the US
was grossly dumbed down a
Yes, that's the correct name. I've read two or
three, can't remember. Yes, light but good; gently funny.
I don't know why they lopped off the first section
for the US, and it is possible that in subsequent reprintings they stuck it back
in, I don't know. It is not part of the actual story o
Izzy's stance below is an
attempt to have one's cake and eat it too: to live by a system in
which all truth claims must be submitted to the criterion of "proof" while at
the same time exercising, about this particular truth claim, a
confidence that is independent of proof.
I suppose the d
Separation of church and state is about a
distinction between institutions, and is accomplished by the First Amendment you
cite below. It is not the same thing as separation of faith (of one kind or
another) and politics (a separation which is impossible in any
case).
Debbie
- Origi
I understand, Izzy.
Debbie
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From:
ShieldsFamily
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 6:42 AM
Subject: [TruthTalk] Proof of
Jesus?
Izzy's stance below is an
attempt to have one's cake and eat i
I never did answer the question below which was
directed to me.
I don't deny any part of it, Blaine, although I
should be careful about saying that, since I am sure I am not yet living in
complete accordance with it all, and that is a kind of denial. I also don't
profess to understand all
are just
giving lip-service to the authority of that way of knowing ("proof"),
and your real way of knowing is faith. We have that in common.
Ultimately faith is the only way of knowing anything. (And it doesn't mean
irrationality.)
Debbie
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om:
Judy
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Rikk
Watts on Genesis 1
On Sun, 8 May 2005 18:11:46 -0400 "Debbie Sawczak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
praise be
for the veily green haze of half-open leaves on
far-off trees
and John Van Wessing, still
white-armed, out on a tractor in a field already;
the nursery we passed:
people bent over plant beds, intent,
and bobbing as they pat the earth firm
at the base of seedlings;
pussy willow switc
Glad to hear about your contract, JD!
Debbie
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To:
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 12:30 PM
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Rikk Watts on Genesis 1
> > > > > Where does the information about
I would like to argue for both approaches. A lot
depends on what circles you move in; nobody is called to salt the entire earth.
If you hang out with people who do a great deal of TV- and movie-watching, so
that their conversation, their metaphors and so on, arise from that, then you do
need
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