Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man

2006-01-16 Thread Taylor
Judy, you are not the Holy Spirit.   Bill - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 10:17 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man What do

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
What do you think the Holy Spirit is Bill?  You don't understand Him do you?   On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:39:06 -0700 "Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: It was his divine nature that was great, Dean, and in that he was unlike us, as we do not have a divine nature,

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man

2006-01-16 Thread Taylor
erve? It was added because of transgressions, till the Seed should come to whom the promise was made" (Gal 2.19).   You know, Judy, you always say "Show me in Scripture." Well, you have been shown. Now, is that all smoke, or are you going to live by your words?   Bill -

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man

2006-01-16 Thread Taylor
indwelt with the Holy Spirit, but we are not God, which is what I mean when I speak of Jesus' divine nature: he was/is God -- and that, my dear, is an infinite difference.   Bill - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: Trut

Re: [TruthTalk] The rationality of "God" -- nonsense

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
can speak for yourself JD .. and you are the ONLY one you can speak for.   jd   -- Original message -- From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>   Excellent points Dean And you are not trying to cut Him up into different

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
be investigated by Social Services for leaving without a head count of their children.   It is a fact that He had to learn THE WAYS OF LIFE   (Acts   Scripture please JD.     From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>     On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 18:46:10 -

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Huh ?? and Huh?? again

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
it is ,  well, he is just plain goofy.  jd   Apparently you are not in the family I was thinking you ran with JD,  you must be with them but not of them, an "independent" of some kind ... Hmmm the plot thickens!!!   From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
From: Taylor Luke writes that Jesus was born of the fruit of David's genitals (Act 2.30):   Not exactly Bill "David being a prophet and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the

Re: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
ory with God from creation? - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: truthtalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 3:25 PM Subject: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE From: "

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
    On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 18:46:10 -0700 "Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: cd: Jd would you say Christ was the same as common man?   It's Bill, but I would say that Christ's human nature was the same as common man -- or statements like "he le

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man

2006-01-16 Thread Taylor
--- Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 6:19 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man       - Original Message ----- From: Taylor To: TruthTa

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man

2006-01-16 Thread Taylor
ot according to scripture, she asks  -   and Bill says  ALL OF HIM.    Amen to that.   jd -- Original message -- From: "Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Which part of the Jesus I believe in is not according to scripture Bill?  

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Huh ??

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
the first Adam before the fall did not need to be saved Judy. We do.   Bill   And judy , well, does what? The first Adam after the fall did indeed need saving from the wrath of God Bill and so do we.   Judy       From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
    On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 16:21:07 -0700 "Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Which part of the Jesus I believe in is not according to scripture Bill?       All of him.   Well the above is a detailed and coherent response - is this the best you can do?  

Re: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE

2006-01-16 Thread Taylor
y is not divine?" (Monday, January 16, 2006) - Original Message ----- From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 3:37 PM Subject: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT

[TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
Which part of the Jesus I believe in is not according to scripture Bill? What makes Him impotent in your opinion?   On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:36:13 -0700 "Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: David,   I am not saying that the Jesus I believe in -- that is, the Je

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE

2006-01-16 Thread Taylor
now discussing.  Nevertheless, she > has placed faith in him, despite this, and she knows him well enough through > the Spirit to have experienced the forgiveness of sins and life everlasting.> > David Miller.> > - Original Message - > From: Taylor> To: TruthTalk@ma

[TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
and was without sin where weare for the most part loaded down with it.  Read 1 Cor 15:42-52.  Sounds to melike the second Adam is the Lord from heaven.  I don't see anything earthy abouthim.  Temptation or no temptation.       From: Taylor   Tell me why he (Jesus) HAD to be like US in eve

[TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
  Thanks David, Just a few notations... From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Judy, Jesus did not come ONLY to redeem us spiritually, but physically as well.  Jesus redeemed the whole man, spirit, soul, and body.  The body is the last thing to experience that redemption, which will be reali

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
Oh yes, I have one but apparently He is not the same one that you have Bill Mine is the Lord, a son of man who descended from heaven to inhabit a body prepared for him.   On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 14:41:39 -0700 "Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I don't see anythin

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE

2006-01-16 Thread Taylor
I don't see anything earthy about him.  Temptation or no temptation.   Well, Judy, then you are still in your sins and you do not have a Savior.   Bill - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglor

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
where we are for the most part loaded down with it.  Read 1 Cor 15:42-52.  Sounds to me like the second Adam is the Lord from heaven.  I don't see anything earthy about him.  Temptation or no temptation.       From: Taylor   Tell me why he (Jesus) HAD to be like US in

[TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
d Miller. - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 2:52 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOTDIVINE

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOTDIVINE

2006-01-16 Thread Taylor
: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 1:38 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOTDIVINE cd: Good point Judy.     - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk

[TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Judy wrote:> Tell me why he (Jesus) HAD to be like US in every way?  Why couldn't he have been> like the first Adam before the fall, the one who was created?   If Jesus were only like the first Adam and not like the rest of us, then he could only redee

[TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
ke us" in total disregard of the additional phrase  "IN EVERY WAY"     -- Original message -- From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>       On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 08:16:00 -0700 "Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:I was just wanting to better understand

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOTDIVINE

2006-01-16 Thread Taylor
Judy, there is no communicating with you, as you don't even realize that we are in agreement on much of what you present for rebuttals. Please just stay where you are.   I'll leave,   Bill - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.or

[TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
    On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 12:22:24 -0700 "Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I understand.  It is mixture; joining the holy with the profane which is something God hates.   No, it is not a mixture, Judy; it is a union.   Hate to have to break it to you like

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOTDIVINE

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
    On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 11:35:51 -0700 "Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: It is humanity which Christ came to save, Judy. He did that by assuming human likeness.   What scripture do you base the above on Bill? The same one from Hebrews?   He was raised as we

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE

2006-01-16 Thread Taylor
Tell me why he (Jesus) HAD to be like US in every way?  Why couldn't he have been like the first Adam before the fall, ...   Because the first Adam before the fall did not need to be saved Judy. We do.   Bill - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: Trut

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE

2006-01-16 Thread Taylor
is a mixture, Judy, a demigod, a hybrid, an alloy, Hermes morphing into Aphrodite -- I don't know. But it is not Jesus Christ the Son of God, son of Mary.   Bill - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
    On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 11:29:01 -0700 "Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: so there is no way that this would be the same concept Bill.    Why is that, Judy? Did "they" not create us in "their" likeness? (cf. Gen 1.26).    Yes they di

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOTDIVINE

2006-01-16 Thread Taylor
ed bodies; bodies all-the-more human, Judy -- not un-human.   Chsh,   Bill - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 10:15 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and t

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOTDIVINE

2006-01-16 Thread Taylor
hat he would have done in a flesh unlike our own would have had no bearing upon human flesh, and we would therefore still be in sin.   Bill - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Monday, Janua

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOTDIVINE

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
    On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 10:04:41 -0700 "Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Also "Flesh and blood DO NOT inherit God's Kingdom" Bill so what would be the purpose??   "What would be the purpose" of what, Judy; I don't understand the ques

Re: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Lance and "biblical language"

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
e Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Where IS that interim moderator now? - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 16, 2006 11:33 Subject: Re: Re: Fw:

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOTDIVINE

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
    On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 09:57:12 -0700 "Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: so there is no way that this would be the same concept Bill.    Why is that, Judy? Did "they" not create us in "their" likeness? (cf. Gen 1.26).    Yes they di

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOTDIVINE

2006-01-16 Thread Taylor
Also "Flesh and blood DO NOT inherit God's Kingdom" Bill so what would be the purpose??     "What would be the purpose" of what, Judy; I don't understand the question. My hunch however is that it will be because God so loved the world ...   - Original Me

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOTDIVINE

2006-01-16 Thread Taylor
so there is no way that this would be the same concept Bill.    Why is that, Judy? Did "they" not create us in "their" likeness? (cf. Gen 1.26).  - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.inn

Re: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Lance and "biblical language"

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
  Possibly "your truth" Bill which is totally alien to what I would call it - makes me wonder what kind of christianity you adhere to.   On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 09:30:38 -0700 "Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Yeah, but is it true? From: Judy Taylor  

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOTDIVINE

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 09:29:22 -0700 "Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: OK - I'm asking Bill, what husband, and what schism?   Oh, I thought you were married. The bible says that you and your husband (if you had one) were to become "one" flesh, i

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE

2006-01-16 Thread Taylor
that > correct? So, how do you perceive becoming one of the sons of God.do you > believe you fit into that category, Bill? And if so, what does it mean to > you? > > Taylor wrote: > DH > So.what do you perceive to be the limitations that prevent us > from becoming li

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOTDIVINE

2006-01-16 Thread Taylor
o. The person of Christ had no disunity; hence no schism.   Bill - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 7:33 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMAN

Re: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Lance and "biblical language"

2006-01-16 Thread Taylor
  Yeah, but is it true? - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 8:59 AM Subject: Re: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Lance and "biblical language" This

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
ous and none that does good EXCEPT ONE.     Judy argues "like us" in total disregard of the additional phrase  "IN EVERY WAY"     -- Original message -- From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>    

Re: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Lance and "biblical language"

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
This is a nasty comment and totally uncalled for Bill   On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 09:01:06 -0700 "Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:   No Dean, Benny learned this from the Dakes Bible.  Finis Dake wrote that the three members of the trinity all have a body a soul and a s

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
Then apparently you never have gotten the issue resolved in your own mind and heart   On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 09:05:12 -0700 "Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Been there, done that, Judy. I'm not interested in doing it again.   Bill - Original Me

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE

2006-01-16 Thread Taylor
Been there, done that, Judy. I'm not interested in doing it again.   Bill - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 8:14 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] lov

Re: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Lance and "biblical language"

2006-01-16 Thread Taylor
d "biblical language"       - Original Message ----- From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/16/2006 8:37:32 AM Subject: Re: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Lance and "biblical language" No

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: OK, done working for now

2006-01-16 Thread Taylor
an also make one least in the kingdom of heaven.This speaks of a personal judgement between the person and God.       - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/15/2006 8:28:37

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
    On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 08:16:00 -0700 "Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I was just wanting to better understand what you were wanting me to agree with in your statement: we agree if you view the Human part to also have divine thoughts. Having read your response

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE

2006-01-16 Thread Taylor
ly the other. Anyway, I knew what you meant and could thus look through it.   Thanks,   Bill     - Original Message - From: Dean Moore - Original Message ----- From: Taylor   So that I know for sure what you mean to convey, let me ask yo

Re: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Lance and "biblical language"

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
n, 16 Jan 2006 07:30:00 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Please check your sources on this, Judy. I believe he claimed to be speaking under 'inspiration'.  From: Judy Taylor   Benny Hinn was

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOTDIVINE

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
OK - I'm asking Bill, what husband, and what schism?   On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 07:28:15 -0700 "Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: And while you're at it, will you explain your schism with your husband, too?   (If this needs clarification, just ask)  

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOTDIVINE

2006-01-16 Thread Taylor
e: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOTDIVINE       - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/14/2006 1:07:17 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] lov

Re: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Lance and "biblical language"

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
on this matter, Judy?. From: Judy Taylor   No Dean, Benny learned this from the Dakes Bible.  Finis Dake wrote that the three members of the trinity all have a body a soul and a spirit causing Benny Hinn to write in one of his books (I think it was Good Morn

Re: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
e incorrect on this matter then, 'all truth' does NOT include this rather central and rather important matter concerning 'who Jesus is'. From: Judy Taylor   I am speaking of two natures and the idea that "the humanity of Christ was not divi

Re: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Lance and "biblical language"

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
lease check your sources on this, Judy. I believe he claimed to be speaking under 'inspiration'.  From: Judy Taylor   Benny Hinn was quoting another source and from what I understand he repented of this error. so you'll need to find a more up to

[TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
e divine nature when we receive Him as a covenant partner and  agree to walk after the Spirit learning His will and His ways.   On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 07:24:10 -0500 "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: From: Judy Taylor Dean, I think this is where &quo

Re: [TruthTalk] A DM like thought

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
Why?  Isn't it possible to be pre-existent aside from being an "Eternal Son" implying that there must have been two births; and another mother besides Mary.   On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 07:28:51 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Those who deny Christ's eternal pre-existence have so

Fw: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Lance and "biblical language"

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org>> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 4:08 PM>> Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Lance and "biblical language">>>>>> Your response has nothing to do with my comments, near as I can

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] The mystery of Judy's gospel

2006-01-15 Thread Judy Taylor
well. > > Ask me a question, Judy, about my beliefs and I will be glad to answer it > emphatically , not fearing being "set up." I do not mind being responsible > for what I consider to be true. Could you please do the same? I doubt > anyone on this foru

Re: [TruthTalk] The mystery of Judy's gospel

2006-01-15 Thread Judy Taylor
    On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 01:47:47 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You often have trouble quoting our very words in a given post -  and you expect us to believe that you can speak for the likes of Judy Taylor?    Why get all over him JD when you are doing the exact same thing

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE

2006-01-15 Thread Taylor
No arguments with that, Judy. Now let's see what Dean thinks about his thoughts.   Bill - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 3:24 PM Subject: R

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE

2006-01-15 Thread Judy Taylor
My mother always said "To err is human, to forgive divine"  so I am sure Dean has divine thoughts I've seen his public forgiveness right on TT   On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:13:41 -0700 "Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: So that I know for sure what you mean t

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE

2006-01-15 Thread Taylor
rgive my mistake-Mormons consider themselves god's in the embryonic stage and that Jesus is the God of this world-as they will grow and be gods of their own worlds.   - Original Message - From: Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/15/20

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE

2006-01-15 Thread Taylor
] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE cd: Yes we agree if you view the Human part to also have divine thoughts.     - Original Message - From: Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/15/2006 1:53:48 PM Subje

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE

2006-01-15 Thread Taylor
and evil.    We can become one with him, as he (Jesus) is one with his Father.    We will eventually be resurrected like him.    So.what do you perceive to be the limitations that prevent us from becoming like God?Taylor wrote: If I understand you correctly, Dean,

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE

2006-01-15 Thread Taylor
If I understand you correctly, Dean, you believe that Christ while walking this earth was fully God. I DO TOO. And if I understand you correctly, you also believe that Christ while on this earth was fully human. I DO TOO.   Bill - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To:

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE

2006-01-15 Thread Taylor
Christ was both fully human and fully God, which is to say that his human nature was not divine and his divine nature was not human; there was no confusion between his natures.  - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk

Re: [TruthTalk] love and trinity

2006-01-15 Thread Taylor
divine roots, Bill? No. Taylor wrote: BillT wrote: The oneness of God is therefore not a number nearly so much as it is a unity: the unifying love of God in koinonia -- Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. DAVEH responds:   Any room for individuals i

Re: [TruthTalk] What is the gospel?

2006-01-15 Thread Taylor
From: Lance Muir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 1:45 PMTo: Debbie SawczakSubject: Fw: [TruthTalk] What is the gospel?   - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 14, 2006 12:54 Subject:

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: OK, done working for now

2006-01-15 Thread Judy Taylor
the conviction power of the Spirit (1 Cor 6:9)-so be not deceived-but sin can also make one least in the kingdom of heaven.This speaks of a personal judgement between the person and God.     - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor

Re: [TruthTalk] OK, done working for now

2006-01-15 Thread Judy Taylor
Spirit (1 Cor 6:9)-so be not deceived-but sin can also make one least in the kingdom of heaven.This speaks of a personal judgement between the person and God.     - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: Tr

Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] Differences

2006-01-15 Thread Judy Taylor
ve that > readers/participants> on TT do not 'know' you. You both have no hesitation to say that you > 'know'> us. Why is that, Judy (DM)?> - Original Message - > From: Judy Taylor> To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org> Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglor

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: OK, done working for now

2006-01-15 Thread Judy Taylor
If this Victor person is correct and "UNBELIEF" is the predicament humanity is in then why was the Holy Spirit sent to reprove the WORLD (note this is not just God's covenant ppl) of SIN, righteousness, and judgment? (John 16:8)  Why didn't God send Him as an antidote to "unbelief" only if

[TruthTalk] The mystery of Judy's gospel

2006-01-15 Thread Judy Taylor
quot;   I do not mind being responsible for what I consider to be true.  Could you please do the same?  I doubt anyone on this forum can tell the rest of us what you believe.    Seriously   jd       -- Original message -- From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] The mystery of Judy's gospel

2006-01-15 Thread Judy Taylor
t worst, dangerous to the naive believer. - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 14, 2006 21:59 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] The mystery of Judy's gospel     On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 01:

Re: [TruthTalk] Differences

2006-01-15 Thread Judy Taylor
t; writes: It fascinates me that both yourself and DM believe that readers/participants on TT do not 'know' you. You both have no hesitation to say that you 'know' us. Why is that, Judy (DM)?   From: Judy Taylor   You wouldn't know what my t

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] The mystery of Judy's gospel

2006-01-15 Thread Judy Taylor
'say with confidence', to: those who 'spoke the word of God' presented in the OT text/s employed in context by the author of Hebrews)     On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 21:59:29 -0500 Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: || Ye

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] The mystery of Judy's gospel

2006-01-14 Thread Judy Taylor
ame? I doubt anyone on this forum can tell the rest of us what you believe.    Seriously  jd   That's easy JD.  I BELIEVE THE BIBLE       -- Original message ------ From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> God is the Creator

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] What is the gospel?

2006-01-14 Thread Judy Taylor
e but unfortunately they did not gain eternity.   On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 23:24:19 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And what does that have to do with the people of Nineveh?  They don't have to have the Spirit to do right as long as the preacher has the Spirit?    jd   From: J

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] What is the gospel?

2006-01-14 Thread Judy Taylor
Yes ... and Jonah was called by God and anointed to speak by the Spirit of God..   On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 23:15:38 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But aren't you the one who  preaches that one cannot do the works of God without the Spirit of God?  jd   From: Judy Taylor &l

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] What is the gospel?

2006-01-14 Thread Judy Taylor
of 'repentance' (please correct me Bill if I'm > misrepresenting you on this) DM and Bill have differing understandings. DM > should, IMO, acknowledge, clarify, and expound that difference then, just > move on. I'm with Bill on this one. God is with Bi

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] What is the gospel?

2006-01-14 Thread Judy Taylor
you and Bill are so into culture and all that - but don't bring God into your folly. The pagan Persian City of Nineveh repented at the preaching of Jonah (Luke 11:32)  And what do you suppose his message to them was?  From: Judy

Re: [TruthTalk] Differences

2006-01-14 Thread Judy Taylor
of the mind of Immanuel--Isaiah's view makes more sense of him than yours does)   On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 13:16:18 -0500 Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Someone with the mind of Christ thinks on God's thoughts  

Re: [TruthTalk] Differences

2006-01-14 Thread Judy Taylor
  ,,your doctrine's about like jt's ain't it-- sorta like you are among a couple of ppl whose mind is the God-thoughts of God,   Someone with the mind of Christ thinks on God's thoughts rather than those of Bob Dylan Gary Is this a problem fo

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-14 Thread Judy Taylor
  Fat nancy 2001 obviously was not born of the Spirit and was most definitely not privy to Hebrews 6:4,5  Are you Gary?   On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 08:18:18 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the mindset in which you dwell is that JC ceased to be God   this point is at root level, Br

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE

2006-01-14 Thread Judy Taylor
Dean, I think this is where "theology" gets itself tied in knots. This is what JD has been accusing me of for so long. How ironic that his mentor Bill would write something like this.  I think Lance just repeated it to qualify something.  So their Jesus must have a schism in his personality

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE

2006-01-14 Thread Judy Taylor
Dean, I think this is where "theology" gets itself tied in knots. This is what JD has been accusing me of for so long. How ironic that his mentor Bill would write something like this.  I think Lance just repeated it to qualify something.  So their Jesus must have a schism in his personality

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Lance and "biblical language"

2006-01-14 Thread Judy Taylor
  May I ask that anyone responding to the above take the time to outline their own position on this.  - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Jan

[TruthTalk] What is the gospel?

2006-01-14 Thread Judy Taylor
Well it is something that needs to be repented of JD; if it is not sin, then why the need to repent? Dead works is something lifeless as opposed to works of righteousness which are the fruit of walking after the spirit. One is dead religion - the other is life and peace.   On Sat, 14 Jan 2006

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-14 Thread Judy Taylor
  On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 09:03:37 -0500 "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: From: Judy Taylor I don't believe you understand His nature at all Lance; also I fail to see why it is so important to you that he be God walking around on

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE

2006-01-14 Thread Judy Taylor
ng teaching, along with the apprehension, of the Trinitarian Nature of God ought to issue in that which Jt speaks of. (i.e. godliness)     - Original Message - From: Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 14, 2006 07:18 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] love and trinit

Re: [TruthTalk] love and trinity

2006-01-14 Thread Taylor
h,   Bill  - Original Message - From: Dave Hansen To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 10:41 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] love and trinity .Does that work in your theological paradigm?Taylor wrote: Moreover, John,

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-13 Thread Judy Taylor
garb.    - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 13, 2006 10:49 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incar

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] What is the gospel?

2006-01-13 Thread Taylor
Bill wrote:... read Peter's sermon in Acts 2, asking yourself what prompted his hearers' question: "What shall we do?" (v37)   DM  >  It appears to me that they were convicted of their sin of having crucified Jesus.    BT > The call to repentance, then, was a call for them to change their m

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-13 Thread Judy Taylor
quot;Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I'm wanting to know, as this is quite clear, if DM's position is identical with your own on this? Once I hear from him I shall get back to you.. From: Judy Taylor   I don't believe you understand His nat

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-13 Thread Judy Taylor
s sacrifice avail for any more than just one person?   Through the Eternal Spirit (Hebrews 9:14-16)     - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 13, 2006

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-13 Thread Judy Taylor
remove his robe thus revealing his Superman garb.    - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 13, 2006 10:49 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Chri

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