Re: empty messages from fedora users list.

Gene Smith, who is working Mozilla bug 1460104, suggests changing "mail.server.default.mime_parts_on_demand" to false in Thunderbird's config editor. I tried it. It works. Messages from this list now display correctly in Thunderbird. Furthermore, messages now download significantly faster.

Re: empty messages from fedora users list.

(I posted this last night, but the posting seems to have gotten lost.) Last night, I submitted Mozilla bug #1460104 to address this issue. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

Re: empty messages from fedora users list.

(replying to both Samuel and Tim) ok. I thank everyone who tried to help. Once Thunderbird 52.7 (or later) is added to the Fedora repository, and I've verified the fix to a separate Thunderbird issue, I'll try to communicate with Thunderbird people about this issue. If they suggest submitting

Re: empty messages from fedora users list.

Allegedly, on or about 5 April 2018, Samuel Sieb sent: > Yes, as I suspected, Evolution just grabs the whole message instead > of asking the server about the different parts. I think that means > that Thunderbird would be able to show the message without > downloading any large attachments, but

Re: empty messages from fedora users list.

On 04/05/2018 12:12 PM, home user via users wrote: I went the grep route. As best as I can determine, all personal e-mail addresses have been replaced with "[e-mail address]", all passwords have been replaced with "[password]", and my ip addresses are not in the file. I fpasted it: I

Re: empty messages from fedora users list.

I went the grep route. As best as I can determine, all personal e-mail addresses have been replaced with "[e-mail address]", all passwords have been replaced with "[password]", and my ip addresses are not in the file. I fpasted it: bash.9[~]: fpaste -t "logs from Evolution run"

Re: empty messages from fedora users list.

On 04/05/2018 08:48 AM, home user via users wrote: I think I got it. The log file is a mere 15 thousand lines long, and is loaded with private information. How do I quickly and easily cut this down to a reasonable size? Maybe try the other method with Evolution's logging? Otherwise, try

Re: empty messages from fedora users list.

I think I got it. The log file is a mere 15 thousand lines long, and is loaded with private information. How do I quickly and easily cut this down to a reasonable size? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an

Re: empty messages from fedora users list.

On 04/04/2018 08:05 AM, home user via users wrote: 3. socat -v tcp-l:143 openssl:imap.mail.yahoo.com:993 2>evolog.txt This is the correct one. After entering that, I launched Evolution, and entered the info. for the yahoo e-mail account that I use for this list. When that was done and the

Re: empty messages from fedora users list.

I tried the socat logging 3 ways, all as root. 1. socat -v tcp-l:143 openssl:localhost:993 2>evolog.txt After entering that, I launched Evolution, and created a new local e-mail account. When that was done, I quitted Evolution, and then terminated the socat by entering CTRL-C in the terminal.

Re: empty messages from fedora users list.

On 04/02/2018 12:58 PM, home user via users wrote: ... socat -v tcp-l:143 openssl:your.mail.server:993 1. What do I put in for "your.mail.server"? As far as I know, I don't have one. or is that "imap.mail.yahoo.com"? Whatever you currently have as the imap server for the mail account.

Re: empty messages from fedora users list.

> ... socat -v tcp-l:143 openssl:your.mail.server:993 1. What do I put in for "your.mail.server"? As far as I know, I don't have one. or is that "imap.mail.yahoo.com"? > Then create an account in Evolution that connects to imap (not imaps) at > "localhost". 2. I don't fully understand. What

Re: empty messages from fedora users list. [CLOSED]

(junk mail filtering) I have two filters. Both are based on the "From" e-mail address only. In both cases, when a message matches, the message is first marked as read, and then deleted. Messages/digests from Fedora lists will not match the two filters. (other filtering) There is no other

Re: empty messages from fedora users list.

On 03/30/2018 02:30 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Thu, 2018-03-29 at 23:48 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: I expect that Evolution is not using the same IMAP requests as Thunderbird did. Thunderbird was getting the server to parse the email somewhat and give it the details. Evolution may just

Re: empty messages from fedora users list.

On Thu, 2018-03-29 at 23:48 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > I expect that Evolution is not using the same IMAP requests as > Thunderbird did. Thunderbird was getting the server to parse the email > somewhat and give it the details. Evolution may just be asking the > server to send it the whole

Re: empty messages from fedora users list.

I expect that Evolution is not using the same IMAP requests as Thunderbird did. Thunderbird was getting the server to parse the email somewhat and give it the details. Evolution may just be asking the server to send it the whole thing. I don't know if Evolution has some way to log the

Re: empty messages from fedora users list. [CLOSED]

Allegedly, on or about 29 March 2018, home user via users sent: > Earlier this afternoon, from Thunderbird running on a windows-7 box, > I sent 2 messages from yahoo account #1 to yahoo account #2, each > with different few-megabyte (not mega-pixel) picture attached. I > also sent 1 message from

Re: empty messages from fedora users list. [CLOSED]

Earlier this afternoon, from Thunderbird running on a windows-7 box, I sent 2 messages from yahoo account #1 to yahoo account #2, each with different few-megabyte (not mega-pixel) picture attached. I also sent 1 message from yahoo account #1 to yahoo account #3; it had one few-megabyte picture

Re: empty messages from fedora users list. [CLOSED]

Allegedly, on or about 26 March 2018, home user sent: > I tried Evolution several times over the last few days. Fedora users > lists show up just fine. Downloads seem almost instantaneous. > > I used Thunderbird to send a 5+megabyte (not megapixel) picture as an > attachment to an e-mail to

Re: empty messages from fedora users list. [CLOSED]

I did the comcast speed test twice. I got download speeds of 66-68 Mbps and upload speeds of about 6.6 Mbps. I tried Evolution several times over the last few days. Fedora users lists show up just fine. Downloads seem almost instantaneous. I used Thunderbird to send a 5+megabyte (not

Re: empty messages from fedora users list. [CLOSED]

Allegedly, on or about 21 March 2018, home user sent: > eno1: flags=4163 mtu 1500 > inet [private?] netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast [private?] > inet6 [private?] prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x0 > inet6 [private?] prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x20 >

Re: empty messages from fedora users list. [CLOSED]

Here are the results of "ifconfig", with ip addresses replaced with "[private?]": = bash.2[~]: ifconfig eno1: flags=4163 mtu 1500 inet [private?] netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast [private?] inet6 [private?] prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x0

Re: empty messages from fedora users list. [CLOSED]

Allegedly, on or about 20 March 2018, Samuel Sieb sent: > If you look further up the thread past what was quoted, Tim > mentioned that it might be an MTU problem. Correct, as a thing worth checking with some of the problems described. Although, his comments about other things working may suggest

Re: empty messages from fedora users list. [CLOSED]

On 03/20/2018 03:47 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: I really rather doubt MTU is what this is about. I think what he was really asking is 'what is "MTA"' (an email-related thing). In that case, it's the Mail Transport Agent (software that moves mail between hosts using the SMTP protocol). The most

Re: empty messages from fedora users list. [CLOSED]

On Tue, 2018-03-20 at 15:47 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > Finally, there's the MUA (Mail User Agent), which is essentially what > end users use to view the mail. There's tons of those, but most common > I've found on Linux are Thunderbird, claws-mail, mutt, Balsa, KDEMail, > etc. Note that it is

Re: empty messages from fedora users list. [CLOSED]

On 03/20/2018 11:02 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 03/20/2018 10:24 AM, home user wrote: >> Point:  downloading in Thunderbird of folder structure, message >> headers, and messages (especially with attachments) are the only cases >> in which I experience slowness.  Youtubes, high-resolution weather

Re: empty messages from fedora users list. [CLOSED]

On 03/20/2018 10:24 AM, home user wrote: Point: downloading in Thunderbird of folder structure, message headers, and messages (especially with attachments) are the only cases in which I experience slowness. Youtubes, high-resolution weather satellite loops, and the download phase of my

Re: empty messages from fedora users list. [CLOSED]

Before starting a new thread, one point and a couple of questions. Point: downloading in Thunderbird of folder structure, message headers, and messages (especially with attachments) are the only cases in which I experience slowness. Youtubes, high-resolution weather satellite loops, and the

Re: empty messages from fedora users list. [CLOSED]

Allegedly, on or about 19 March 2018, William sent: > I've seen posts to closed and solved issues before, so if anyone has > something helpful, go ahead and post it, or start a new thread A thought just occurred to me: In the past, often when someone had an issue where data came through in dribs

Re: empty messages from fedora users list. [CLOSED]

If I understand Samuel's most recent response, this problem is unsolvable by us and by Thunderbird. I'm closing this. I've seen posts to closed and solved issues before, so if anyone has something helpful, go ahead and post it, or start a new thread. I'll be checking Fedora HYPERKITTY

Re: empty messages from fedora users list.

On 03/16/2018 12:53 PM, William Mattison wrote: That worked. Thank-you Samuel. The log is here: "https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/07xQurGCBVjXYes1PUleiw; I'll add that this bug is partially random. I only see the problem (and other problems) on messages with attachments. But the

Re: empty messages from fedora users list.

That worked. Thank-you Samuel. The log is here: "https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/07xQurGCBVjXYes1PUleiw; I'll add that this bug is partially random. I only see the problem (and other problems) on messages with attachments. But the problem does not always show up on messages with

Re: empty messages from fedora users list.

On 03/15/2018 08:51 AM, William Mattison wrote: Tried it: bash.4[~]: export MOZ_LOG_FILE=/[myhome]/thunderbird/log bash.5[~]: export MOZ_LOG=IMAP:5,timestamp Looking through the source code, I found that the environment variables used are different now. You want "NSPR_LOG_FILE" and

Re: empty messages from fedora users list.

On 03/15/2018 08:51 AM, William Mattison wrote: What I was suggesting... KSysGuard shows that yahoo feeds data to Thunderbird in very teeny chunks. A message with an attached photo took about an hour to download yesterday. I also access my e-mail from multiple workstation accounts and

Re: empty messages from fedora users list.

> What I was suggesting... KSysGuard shows that yahoo feeds data to Thunderbird in very teeny chunks. A message with an attached photo took about an hour to download yesterday. I also access my e-mail from multiple workstation accounts and operating systems. So some time ago, I set all my

Re: empty messages from fedora users list.

On 03/14/2018 07:38 PM, William Mattison wrote: I saved that [etc.] That does work. Good, so that means that Thunderbird does eventually get the whole intact message and can read it. ... Try closing ... cough gag cough cough choke gag cough On March 06, I started a thread titled

Re: empty messages from fedora users list.

> I saved that [etc.] That does work. > ... Try closing ... cough gag cough cough choke gag cough On March 06, I started a thread titled "Thunderbird issue (OT).". I never saw any replies. The problem remains completely unsolved. Actually, it's now worse! I've experienced that

Re: empty messages from fedora users list.

On 03/14/2018 04:57 PM, William Mattison wrote: ok, I figured out how to get the message into the Fedora paste site. It can be viewed here: "https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/LvQNrf-2pwpvnXbWWxOmow;. I saved that to a file and Thunderbird opened it with no problem. Try that yourself.

Re: empty messages from fedora users list.

ok, I figured out how to get the message into the Fedora paste site. It can be viewed here: "https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/LvQNrf-2pwpvnXbWWxOmow;. thanks, Bill. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an

Re: empty messages from fedora users list.

On 03/14/2018 04:43 PM, William Mattison wrote: I saved the "View source" window contents as a text file. What is now the best way to get that file onto Fedora's paste bin? Last time I tried that (last summer), it didn't work well. Making the whole message available might be better than me

Re: empty messages from fedora users list.

I saved the "View source" window contents as a text file. What is now the best way to get that file onto Fedora's paste bin? Last time I tried that (last summer), it didn't work well. Making the whole message available might be better than me trying to guess what would be helpful in

Re: empty messages from fedora users list.

Patrick, I am using the "fedora HYPERKITTY" web interface for all my posts to this thread. But the e-mail address for my Fedora users list is a yahoo e-mail address. Bill. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send

Re: empty messages from fedora users list.

On 03/14/2018 02:51 PM, William Mattison wrote: The header looks fine and there should be 33KB of content. When you view source do you see the message body? yes. In "View source", I see 759 lines of stuff. But most looks like "meta-data", not message body that I would expect to see in the

Re: empty messages from fedora users list.

On 03/14/2018 04:05 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Just so you both know, only Samuel's side of this conversation is reaching me via the list. Can I assume that William is using Yahoo and my Gmail account is throwing away his side, or is something else going on? Yes, he has a Yahoo email

Re: empty messages from fedora users list.

On Wed, 2018-03-14 at 13:10 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 03/14/2018 12:58 PM, William Mattison wrote: > > Using the "View source" function, here between the lines of '=' is the > > header (copied and pasted): [...] Just so you both know, only Samuel's side of this conversation is reaching me

Re: empty messages from fedora users list.

> The header looks fine and there should be 33KB of content. When you > view source do you see the message body? yes. In "View source", I see 759 lines of stuff. But most looks like "meta-data", not message body that I would expect to see in the Thunderbird window. The first blank line is

Re: empty messages from fedora users list.

On 03/14/2018 12:58 PM, William Mattison wrote: Using the "View source" function, here between the lines of '=' is the header (copied and pasted): = Content-Length: 33542 = The header looks fine and there should be 33KB of content. When you view source do you see the message body?

Re: empty messages from fedora users list.

Hi Samuel, Using the "View source" function, here between the lines of '=' is the header (copied and pasted): = X-Apparently-To: mattison.compu...@yahoo.com; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 11:45:33 + Return-Path: Received-SPF: pass (domain of

Re: empty messages from fedora users list.

On 03/14/2018 10:46 AM, William Mattison wrote: h I did a "View source" on the most recent empty-looking message. Everything is there. The whole thing is 742 lines long. You want the top how many lines? Or how would I recognize the end of the header? The end of the header is the

Re: empty messages from fedora users list.

h I did a "View source" on the most recent empty-looking message. Everything is there. The whole thing is 742 lines long. You want the top how many lines? Or how would I recognize the end of the header? What displays in the header area (below the list of messages, above where the

Re: empty messages from fedora users list.

On 03/14/2018 09:10 AM, William Mattison wrote: Since March 08, I've received 11 messages from this list that appear empty, including 2 so far today. I have received a few (less) not empty, none today and 3 yesterday. What's causing this problem, and how do I fix it? My e-mail client is

empty messages from fedora users list.

Good morning, Since March 08, I've received 11 messages from this list that appear empty, including 2 so far today. I have received a few (less) not empty, none today and 3 yesterday. What's causing this problem, and how do I fix it? My e-mail client is Thunderbird 52.5.2. I will