Re: Big problems with senders who use Microsoft Bigfish (a.k.a. FrontBridge)

2013-08-16 Thread Nigel Smith
> In the future, if you're not prepared to show the actual problem with their > actual data, please don't waste our time. You know that's the sort of thing I hate about the Open Source community, the big ego trips by the crusty old dudes who've been around forever and enjoy giving the relati

Re: Big problems with senders who use Microsoft Bigfish (a.k.a. FrontBridge)

2013-08-15 Thread Nigel Smith
>> Yes, I have checked on the real Zen lists and the real IP is there. >>Then your checking software is broken.  None of the Spamhaus lists ever >>include anything in 10/8. John, the big hint was in the word *REAL IP*... as I said hundreds of times subsequently to the initial post, I stupid

Re: Big problems with senders who use Microsoft Bigfish (a.k.a. FrontBridge)

2013-08-14 Thread Nigel Smith
>Close, but if you notice, the check on the full Zen bl at the top is an >unscored sub-rule, while you were scoring 30 points for your version. Well, I guess my rules needed updating anyway. Spamhaus rolled out two new response codes I was not checking for !  Looking forward to seeing the

Re: Big problems with senders who use Microsoft Bigfish (a.k.a. FrontBridge)

2013-08-14 Thread Nigel Smith
On 08/14/2013 05:31 PM, Nigel Smith wrote: > Actually Axb, these are my current rules, so I might not be as wrong as you think.. > > # ITS Local > header ITS_RCVD_IN_ZEN            eval:check_rbl('zen', 'zen.dnsbl.') > describe ITS_RCVD_IN_ZEN          R

Re: Big problems with senders who use Microsoft Bigfish (a.k.a. FrontBridge)

2013-08-14 Thread Nigel Smith
>As I posted previously, the safer way to do it is to tell your recursor  >to forward all spamhaus queries to you local rblsnd and NOT to tinker >with SA rules but then... My local recursor does forward to rbldnsd, as per their instructions... zone "dnsbl" {       type forward;       forward o

Re: Big problems with senders who use Microsoft Bigfish (a.k.a. FrontBridge)

2013-08-14 Thread Nigel Smith
Actually Axb, these are my current rules, so I might not be as wrong as you think.. # ITS Local header ITS_RCVD_IN_ZEN            eval:check_rbl('zen', 'zen.dnsbl.') describe ITS_RCVD_IN_ZEN          Received via a relay in Spamhaus Zen tflags ITS_RCVD_IN_ZEN            net reuse  ITS_RCVD_IN

Re: Big problems with senders who use Microsoft Bigfish (a.k.a. FrontBridge)

2013-08-14 Thread Nigel Smith
> Because some Webmail providers don't use a proper Received: header for > the initial hop, but add an X-Originating-IP: header instead. Two things that bother me about that reply.  First,  SA  *should* know about the major filtering providers (Bigfish, Postini etc.) and be able to deal with t

Re: Big problems with senders who use Microsoft Bigfish (a.k.a. FrontBridge)

2013-08-14 Thread Nigel Smith
>Irrelevant. >Why is an "X-*" header even being parsed for IPs? Agreed.  That's what I came here to ask in the first place, even if I managed to make a right mess of even asking that !   ;-)

Re: Big problems with senders who use Microsoft Bigfish (a.k.a. FrontBridge)

2013-08-14 Thread Nigel Smith
>That's a rotten idea when asking questions about RBLs... In this case, >asking about X.X. would have been less confusing. Yes, I'm sorry and I've already given myself 30 lashings !  ;-( >Se we have two problems here: parsing IP addresses from inappropriate >headers, and (potentially) the RBL

Re: Big problems with senders who use Microsoft Bigfish (a.k.a. FrontBridge)

2013-08-14 Thread Nigel Smith
> If he borked his rbldnsd config badly, it could be possible. Please guys, can we get this thread back on track.  The RFC1918 send many of you off on the wrong tangent, I apologise for that profusely again.  ;-)

Re: Big problems with senders who use Microsoft Bigfish (a.k.a. FrontBridge)

2013-08-14 Thread Nigel Smith
>Right ... "On your incoming mail relays" ... >  If you use it in SA where it can check other IP addresses >in the headers, it can be dangerous. If its such a big deal, why does __RCVD_IN_ZEN have a default score of >0 .. all I did was disable __RCVD_IN_ZEN and copy its exact rule to my lo

Re: Big problems with senders who use Microsoft Bigfish (a.k.a. FrontBridge)

2013-08-14 Thread Nigel Smith
> I wonder whether you should have chosen an RFC5737 address rather than an > RFC1918 address for your obfuscation purposes... Because I forgot about RFC5737. ;-( As I said, happy to give full un-munged headers off-list.

Re: Big problems with senders who use Microsoft Bigfish (a.k.a. FrontBridge)

2013-08-14 Thread Nigel Smith
>YOu're rule sort of dangerous as it may list PBL stuff on non >last-external, etc, Sort of dangerous ?  It works beautifully for us !  Until the recent issues with Bigfish we've had zero false positives and many many many good catches ! I'm only following the guidelines at  http://www.spamha

Re: Big problems with senders who use Microsoft Bigfish (a.k.a. FrontBridge)

2013-08-14 Thread Nigel Smith
Hi Kevin (and the entire list), Many many many apologies for not making it clear that I masked the affected IP.  I don't really want to post it in public for all and sundry.  Happy to give people the REAL headers off-list.   Nigel 

Re: Big problems with senders who use Microsoft Bigfish (a.k.a. FrontBridge)

2013-08-14 Thread Nigel Smith
 > 10.X is a private network.  Why is Zen listing it ? Becasuse I masked the first two octets to protect the innocent.  ;-) > Have you checked that IP on the real Zen listing and not on your cached > server? Yes, I have checked on the real Zen lists and the real IP is there.

Big problems with senders who use Microsoft Bigfish (a.k.a. FrontBridge)

2013-08-14 Thread Nigel Smith
Hi, SpamAssassin version 3.3.2   running on Perl version 5.14.2 3.2.0-49-generic #75-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jun 18 17:39:32 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux   (ubuntu 12.04LTS) I'm having some major problems at the moment with people who send mail via their corporate email platforms hosted on

Re: mass check tips and tricks - need advice

2013-02-18 Thread Nigel Frankcom
Damn, I thought I had you in my junk list - play nice spammer and keep one address? On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 08:34:15 -0800, Marc Perkel wrote: >OK - I'm getting mass checking set up and working. I'm still in the >testing phase. > >Right now the process of selecting spam and ham is automated. It's n

Re: Bayes database in mysql on multiple servers

2011-11-30 Thread Nigel Frankcom
aware >> you might get doubles with bayes store, this should be ignored >> >> but i am told PostgreSQL is better in replacation stuff > >Why replicate? Why not just share the same database? No failover with shared. Distributed adds redundancy. KR Nigel

Re: Not sure if this is old or new

2011-09-22 Thread Nigel Frankcom
On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 17:08:42 +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: >On 20.09.11 18:57, Nigel Frankcom wrote: >>I moved SA to a newer box and have the following output in my logs: >>http://pastebin.com/VvZfXwAC >> >>Apologies if I'm being dense, but is there a wa

Re: RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL on my own emails to self

2011-04-10 Thread Nigel Frankcom
27;s an undeserved bad name. Additionally, BT's approach of 'we are big ergo you do what we say' doesn't add much in the way of help either. After many years I'm moving off BT, though that is because of their billing and the incompetence there makes their rbl handling look like it's 6 sigma. I've defended BT for years, seems I was naive. Expect to see me in SORBS soon :-D Nigel

Re: Performance on Spear Phishing?

2011-03-18 Thread Nigel Frankcom
On Fri, 18 Mar 2011 04:22:40 +0100, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: >On Thu, 2011-03-17 at 12:58 +0000, Nigel Frankcom wrote: >> Unrelated but reminded me I hadn't posted a thanks to all those that >> responded about the sa-update rules. That's partly because I'm >&

Re: Performance on Spear Phishing?

2011-03-17 Thread Nigel Frankcom
Unrelated but reminded me I hadn't posted a thanks to all those that responded about the sa-update rules. That's partly because I'm awaiting permission from clients to add their mails to the corpus. So, thanks all. Apologies for forgetting my manners. Have no clue about Spear Phishing other than

sa-updates

2011-03-10 Thread Nigel Frankcom
Hi All, Apologies if this has been covered, an admittedly fairly cursory Google showed nothing new. My local sa-update hasn't updated in the better part of a month. Is it that there have been no updates or do I need to dig into my systems to see what I broke, how and when? Regards to all Nigel

Re: [Asrg] draft-levine-iprangepub-01

2010-12-29 Thread Nigel Frankcom
;space allocated by a provider (even to an end-user) is likely to be a >/64, so I don't see why whitelists can't list /64's too. Essentially, >I disagree with the phrase "which by their nature list individual IP >addresses". > >Regards, > >DAvid. I'd wonder at the DNS traffic, I may be wrong but this looks like between 4 and 24 look-ups per check. DoS? Nigel

Re: Comment - GFI/SORBS

2010-12-15 Thread Nigel Frankcom
and it's Lynford and his money grabbing cronies mostly behind it >- hence it lacks sophistication. I guess we all have our opinions based on our experiences. Personally, I've had no issue with zen, though cbl does seem sometimes to have an issue with back-scatter. That said, proper spf should help stop back-scatter. Kind regards Nigel

Re: Comment - GFI/SORBS

2010-12-15 Thread Nigel Frankcom
t think they could do it better, and maybe accept that we all get it wrong sometimes... Just my 2.5p worth :-D Kind regards Nigel On Tue, 14 Dec 2010 22:41:40 -0500, Jason Bertoch wrote: >On 12/14/2010 8:06 PM, Bart Schaefer wrote: >> http://blog.wordtothewise.com/2010/12/gfi-sorbs-consider

Comment - GFI/SORBS

2010-12-14 Thread Nigel Frankcom
Hi All, Is sorbs going to be continued as a scoring option in SA? Having hit yet more problems with them I've zeroed their scoring. I found this a couple of days ago, maybe it can add weight. http://blog.wordtothewise.com/2010/12/gfi-sorbs-considered-harmful/ Best to all Nigel

Re: SpamAssassin service file missing after installation

2010-10-27 Thread Nigel Frankcom
the Perl modules for the correct ones then do: yum install Perl-Digest-SHA Hope that helps Nigel On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 01:13:56 -0700 (PDT), Gnanam wrote: > >Hi, > >I'm trying to install SpamAssassin version 3.3.1 on CentOS release 5.2 >(Final). > >During installation,

ot/possibly

2010-07-06 Thread Nigel Frankcom
Un-subscribe >;+4;;crivitzlippiest.com/30101624u&271074362e&17874825c/ > > >TransmitterUn-subscribe >;+4;;crivitzlippiest.com/30101625u&271074362e&17874825c/ Raw mail looks the same so nothing hidden. Anyone else seeing similar, Is there perhaps a rule already done or should I write one? As always, all help appreciated. Kind regards Nigel

Re: [OT] was SORBS

2010-04-30 Thread Nigel Frankcom
On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 17:48:49 +0100, "corpus.defero" wrote: >On Fri, 2010-04-30 at 17:19 +0100, Nigel Frankcom wrote: >> On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 16:59:57 +0100, "corpus.defero" >> wrote: >> >> >On Fri, 2010-04-30 at 16:50 +0100, Nigel Frankcom wro

Re: [OT] was SORBS

2010-04-30 Thread Nigel Frankcom
On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 16:59:57 +0100, "corpus.defero" wrote: >On Fri, 2010-04-30 at 16:50 +0100, Nigel Frankcom wrote: > >> We're on a BT only exchange here so it's them or nothing, well not >> quite, I could go CoLo... hmmm maybe not, or satellite, I was in

Re: [OT] was SORBS

2010-04-30 Thread Nigel Frankcom
th luck they and SORBS will open a dialogue. As admins we face and deal with issues every day, sometimes it's nice to know that others out there are listening and, where they can, acting. I have a lot of karma to repay :-D Now, if the SA list would let me post from 'home'. I'd be copacetic :-D All the best Nigel

Re: SORBS

2010-04-20 Thread Nigel Frankcom
On 20 April 2010 18:29, Benny Pedersen wrote: > On tir 20 apr 2010 19:17:10 CEST, Nigel Frankcom wrote > >> My IP has full rDNS supplied by my ISP - please feel free to ping -a >> 217.36.54.209 and tell me what exactly is wrong wit that? > > http://www.db.ripe.ne

Re: SORBS

2010-04-20 Thread Nigel Frankcom
On 20 April 2010 18:07, Benny Pedersen wrote: > On tir 20 apr 2010 18:56:37 CEST, John Hardin wrote >>> >>> not correct, hotmail gmail yahoo works without isp dependice, why care ? >> >> You're kidding, right, Benny? > > does it looks so ? > >> Why care that the ISP providing my IP addresses can't

Re: SORBS

2010-04-20 Thread Nigel Frankcom
My IP has full rDNS supplied by my ISP - please feel free to ping -a 217.36.54.209 and tell me what exactly is wrong wit that? On 20 April 2010 16:08, Benny Pedersen wrote: > On tir 20 apr 2010 15:04:53 CEST, Nigel Frankcom wrote > >> If anyone has any ideas - please let me know? >

Re: SORBS

2010-04-20 Thread Nigel Frankcom
On 20 April 2010 14:13, corpus.defero wrote: > On Tue, 2010-04-20 at 14:04 +0100, Nigel Frankcom wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> Am I the only one incabale of figuring out the SORBS interface? >> >> I'm told by various mailserver that sorbs is blocking me (includ

SORBS

2010-04-20 Thread Nigel Frankcom
d. If anyone has any ideas - please let me know? Kind regards Nigel

Re: Any known issues with Razor2?

2010-03-23 Thread Nigel Frankcom
On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 09:12:16 +, Nigel Frankcom wrote: >Hi All, > >Apologies if this has already been asked. A hunt through Google didn't >help much nor did any digging around the SA site. That's not to say >it's not there, just that I can't find it :-/

Any known issues with Razor2?

2010-03-23 Thread Nigel Frankcom
install the new SA I get: Error: Missing Dependency: perl(Razor2) >= 2.61 is needed by package spamassassin Is this stupidity on my part or, is there a simple work round, or is there an updated version of Razor2? All help gratefully received. Kind regards Nigel

Re: Bayes help

2010-03-14 Thread Nigel Frankcom
egory it is useful to relearn it in the other - so spam - ham and ham - spam. Just observations, not suggestions; except that they have worked for me. KR Nigel

Re: Bayes help

2010-03-14 Thread Nigel Frankcom
On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 12:08:17 -0400, Alex wrote: >Hi, > >I'm concerned that my bayes database may contain incorrect >information. I performed a search on all of the messages in the >quarantine, and pulled out the ones that contained BAYES_00 in their >score. There weren't all that many of them, bu

Re: Bayes help

2010-03-14 Thread Nigel Frankcom
On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 12:08:17 -0400, Alex wrote: >Hi, > >I'm concerned that my bayes database may contain incorrect >information. I performed a search on all of the messages in the >quarantine, and pulled out the ones that contained BAYES_00 in their >score. There weren't all that many of them, bu

Re: Parallelizing Spam Assassin

2009-07-31 Thread Nigel Frankcom
h I am eternally grateful; the usual culprits know who they are) Kind regards Nigel On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 11:41:14 -0700 (PDT), poifgh wrote: > >In my tests - there was not MTA. The mails/spam were collected from some >server in mbox format and fed to SA using --mbox switch. The si

Re: Parallelizing Spam Assassin

2009-07-31 Thread Nigel Frankcom
imary SA. Assuming (again) that mail size has been factored and any AV is running remotely? Just a few thoughts based on a very cursory read of a few posts, sadly - or happily, work make my contributions here limited. I'd be interested in the results of this though. Kind regards Nigel PS -

Re: sa-update error

2009-06-08 Thread Nigel Frankcom
keep it current. If not Install it via CPAN. You may need to restart SA after, not sure. It may also be worth running "spamassassin --lint -D" to see if you are missing any other packages. HTH Nigel

Re: Custome rule problem. Resolved

2009-02-19 Thread Nigel Frankcom
On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 08:01:48 -0800 (PST), John Hardin wrote: >On Thu, 19 Feb 2009, Nigel Frankcom wrote: > >> Testing was done through spamassassin --lint and with debug. I used a >> mail that *should* have hit the rules. > >--lint is not for testing rule performance, as

Re: Custome rule problem.

2009-02-19 Thread Nigel Frankcom
On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 16:16:48 +0100, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: >On Thu, 2009-02-19 at 14:50 +0000, Nigel Frankcom wrote: > >> Using --lint the rule come back clean but on testing it appears to be >> ignored. It's in the spamassassin directory. >> >> Am I mis

Custome rule problem.

2009-02-19 Thread Nigel Frankcom
received. Kind regards Nigel

Re: html experts: empty

2009-01-30 Thread Nigel Frankcom
On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:00:47 -0800, Kelson wrote: >On the subject of vs