Aw: [Vo]:Larsen, LENR in Lithium batteries and burn out IPhone

2011-11-28 Thread peter . heckert
But nobody was hurt by radiation. So no nuclear reactions. Lets assume, the battery was charged and contained an energy of 7 Wh. Lets assume, this is released in 2 minutes. This means 210 Watt, and the peak power is probably higher. As soon as the batteri is no longer air tight, the lithium

Re: [Vo]:Larsen, LENR in Lithium batteries and burn out IPhone

2011-11-28 Thread peter . heckert
- Original Nachricht Von: peter.heck...@arcor.de An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Datum: 28.11.2011 11:46 Betreff: Aw: [Vo]:Larsen, LENR in Lithium batteries and burn out IPhone But nobody was hurt by radiation. So no nuclear reactions. Lets assume, the battery was charged and

Re: [Vo]:Larsen, LENR in Lithium batteries and burn out IPhone

2011-11-28 Thread peter . heckert
- Original Nachricht Von: Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Datum: 28.11.2011 12:08 Betreff: Re: Aw: [Vo]:Larsen, LENR in Lithium batteries and burn out IPhone Try this:

Re: [Vo]:Larsen, LENR in Lithium batteries and burn out IPhone

2011-11-28 Thread peter . heckert
- Original Nachricht Von: Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Datum: 28.11.2011 12:52 Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Larsen, LENR in Lithium batteries and burn out IPhone That output was seen by everybody in the room when the reactor fired up. Rossi

Re: [Vo]:Rossi blog -- Hank Mills proposes a side-by-side blank test

2011-11-28 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 28.11.2011 22:01, schrieb Mary Yugo: On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 12:54 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com mailto:dlrober...@aol.com wrote: I agree Horace. This is pathetic. Dave Deasy, IIRC, has a PhD in a physical science or engineering and is a flight dynamics specialist by

Re: [Vo]:Re: Rossi refuse to answer about the publication of calorimetry test that will be done in Universities

2011-11-27 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 27.11.2011 12:05, schrieb Marcello Vitale: Useless. If negative, the Rossi camp could safely claim that the Bologna guys still did not know how to get the process started correctly - that does seem to be something touchy even for Rossi. And if positive, the anti-Rossi camp could safely

Re: [Vo]:Rossi - Limiting temperature

2011-11-27 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 27.11.2011 17:24, schrieb Jeff Sutton: A friend of mine who was working on LENR in the past noted that Stainless Steel containers become quite porous to Hydrogen at around 800 C. This being the case, would this not limit Rossi's temperature gradient from reactor, through its container,

Re: [Vo]:Elevated-temperature excess heat production in a Pd D system in 1991

2011-11-27 Thread peter . heckert
- Original Nachricht Von: Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Datum: 28.11.2011 06:19 Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Elevated-temperature excess heat production in a Pd D system in 1991 I spoke with Liaw at ICCF-2 Como 1991. The system had very great problems

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Rossi, owner of the company through the EFA Ltd. has signed the €500,000 w/ Department of Physics Univ Bologna

2011-11-26 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 26.11.2011 01:46, schrieb Ahsoka Tano: According to this Italian article, the deed is done. Isn't this proof that there was a buyer of the mega-eCat and that Rossi has the money to sign the contract with UniBol? The entrepreneur Andrea Rossi, owner of the company through the EFA Ltd.,

Re: [Vo]:How to make a clean blackboxtest for thermal overunity.

2011-11-26 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 26.11.2011 01:38, schrieb Mary Yugo: On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de mailto:peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote: Its so simple. A Black Box Test must be made like this: Energy in -- [Blackbox] -- Energy out.SNIP Exactly as you say in your

Re: [Vo]:hydrogen refill

2011-11-26 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 26.11.2011 12:57, schrieb Berke Durak: So they had to add the initial mass and the difference, and that's where they fucked up, adding -1.7 g instead of -1.7 kg. Happens all the time. They even wrote down kg instead of g. Obviously, they didn't have a 13 ton hydrogen bottle, right? Doesnt

Re: [Vo]:hydrogen refill

2011-11-26 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 26.11.2011 13:04, schrieb Peter Heckert: Am 26.11.2011 12:57, schrieb Berke Durak: So they had to add the initial mass and the difference, and that's where they fucked up, adding -1.7 g instead of -1.7 kg. Happens all the time. They even wrote down kg instead of g. Obviously, they didn't

Re: [Vo]:Why Rossi's E-cat is claimed to have a COP of around 6

2011-11-26 Thread Peter Heckert
The question is, how did they measure the energy input? This is not documented. This colonel engineer confuses kg and g. He measures a hydrogen consumtion of 1.7000 kg and dont write down all significant digits. Then he subtracts this from a value that means gramm. but is mistakenly labeled as

Re: [Vo]:Why Rossi's E-cat is claimed to have a COP of around 6

2011-11-26 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 26.11.2011 19:49, schrieb Jed Rothwell: I have heard they wrote the document in Italian and then translated it. People often make mistakes like this. In the document by Brattain you can see he made a correction on the second page and then crossed it out, where it says 5.4 x 10^-7 Watts:

Re: [Vo]:Large Temperature Increase of Core Not Required for 6 to 1 Output Delta

2011-11-26 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 26.11.2011 21:15, schrieb Mary Yugo: On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 8:23 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 11:11 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com mailto:dlrober...@aol.com wrote: Horace hibernates this time of year. Speaking

Re: [Vo]:Krivit provides details of deal Celani offered Rossi and Rossi's rejection of it

2011-11-26 Thread Peter Heckert
I think it is wrong to ask Rossi for a test. If the test is successful he is the only one who wins and if it is not successful, he is the only one who loses. Because he will not reveal the catalyst, science has no advantage from it. Others do credible say they have good results without catalyst

Re: [Vo]:Krivit provides details of deal Celani offered Rossi and Rossi's rejection of it

2011-11-26 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 27.11.2011 00:35, schrieb Jed Rothwell: If he succeeds he will give humanity a greater gift than any inventor in history, so we will have nothing to complain about. He will give to humanity a large fangroup and legends that will grow over time If he fails, he will hurt himself more than

Re: [Vo]:Krivit provides details of deal Celani offered Rossi and Rossi's rejection of it

2011-11-26 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 27.11.2011 01:39, schrieb Giovanni Santostasi: I didn't say he necessarily is a good scam artist... ; ) he has tried and failed before... G On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 6:34 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 7:30 PM, Giovanni

Re: [Vo]:Krivit provides details of deal Celani offered Rossi and Rossi's rejection of it

2011-11-26 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 27.11.2011 02:15, schrieb Terry Blanton: On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 8:08 PM, Peter Heckertpeter.heck...@arcor.de wrote: He sells. Mike Brady did never make a documented successful demonstration. So, Peter, my dear yo-yo friend, can you document how many Perendev motors that Brady actually

Re: [Vo]:Krivit provides details of deal Celani offered Rossi and Rossi's rejection of it

2011-11-26 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 27.11.2011 02:28, schrieb Giovanni Santostasi: Terry, If being killed at a cost of 500 dollars would enough to stop a scam artist or a criminal of any type we would not have many around... Those people who buy, are not those who kill. There are easier ways for such criminals to get money

Re: [Vo]:Krivit provides details of deal Celani offered Rossi and Rossi's rejection of it

2011-11-26 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 27.11.2011 02:38, schrieb Terry Blanton: On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 8:37 PM, Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de mailto:peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote: Am 27.11.2011 02:28, schrieb Giovanni Santostasi: Terry, If being killed at a cost of 500 dollars would enough to stop

Aw: Re: [Vo]:bit.ly/cold-fusion

2011-11-25 Thread peter . heckert
- Original Nachricht Von: Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Datum: 25.11.2011 09:07 Betreff: Re: [Vo]:bit.ly/cold-fusion Rossi tries to convince the world that his system is quite different from Piantelli's but Piantelli was the first to discover

Re: [Vo]:bit.ly/cold-fusion

2011-11-25 Thread peter . heckert
- Original Nachricht Von: Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Datum: 25.11.2011 10:22 Betreff: Re: Re: [Vo]:bit.ly/cold-fusion [snip] I will try to get information re the work with metalhydrides at the Plank Institute I liked very much the idea from

Re: [Vo]:bit.ly/cold-fusion

2011-11-25 Thread peter . heckert
- Original Nachricht Von: Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Datum: 25.11.2011 10:22 Betreff: Re: Re: [Vo]:bit.ly/cold-fusion [snip] I will try to get information re the work with metalhydrides at the Plank Institute I liked very much the idea from

[Vo]:Re:external: Metallic Hydrogen

2011-11-25 Thread peter . heckert
Hi, got this per mail. I forward this to the list on request by the author. Hope I did the subject line correctly. - Original Nachricht Von: Pekka Janhunen pekka.janhu...@fmi.fi An: peter.heck...@arcor.de Datum: 25.11.2011 09:50 Betreff: Re: Metallic Hydrogen Hi, two

Re: [Vo]:Andrea Rossi Working with Domenico Fioravanti on Electrical Power from E-Cat

2011-11-25 Thread peter . heckert
- Original Nachricht Von: vorl bek vorl@antichef.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Datum: 25.11.2011 14:50 Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Andrea Rossi Working with Domenico Fioravanti on Electrical Power from E-Cat Aussie Guy quotes Rossi: ?Actually, we have found a

Re: [Vo]:bit.ly/cold-fusion

2011-11-25 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 25.11.2011 13:54, schrieb Marcello Vitale: Very interesting, indeed. Thank you, Peter. Four observations a) MgH2 is more stable than NiHn: Mg might simply suck up the hydrogen b) nonetheless, it is on the surface of Ni powder particles that H2 breaks up more easily, hence the rationale to

Re: [Vo]:New state of matter discovered

2011-11-25 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 25.11.2011 16:27, schrieb David ledin: This sounds like cold fusion New state of matter discovered http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15876145 Why do they use phosphoric acid? I think, when it is liquid (above 42,35 °C) it should be conductive like water. Does this possibly

Re: [Vo]:To Patent or Not Patent Natural law. That is the question.

2011-11-25 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 25.11.2011 18:57, schrieb Harry Veeder: On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 3:50 AM,peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote: Natural laws cannot been patented. I think natural laws should be patentable. They result from human effort and they are useful whether are not deemed to be objectively true. A patented

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat / philosophical remarks

2011-11-25 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 25.11.2011 20:20, schrieb Peter Gluck: Lack of a patent is one side of the vulnerability. The other, even more important the stealability, guessability of his solution (catalyst). I think they intentionally made their scientific publication and their patent in such a way that it will be

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat / philosophical remarks

2011-11-25 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 25.11.2011 21:01, schrieb Peter Gluck: The degree of correlation of Rossi's problems with the law and the efficiency of the E-cats is an open question. The definition from this writing can be applied here:http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com/2011/01/first-seed.html However this idea of

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat / philosophical remarks

2011-11-25 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 25.11.2011 21:37, schrieb Peter Gluck: I have the certainty because I and some other friends have seen the cells working and giving excess heat. I have certainty because what Piantelli says and does has a logical consistency and I have followed the development for long years and it was

[Vo]:How to make a clean blackboxtest for thermal overunity.

2011-11-25 Thread Peter Heckert
Its so simple. A Black Box Test must be made like this: Energy in -- [Blackbox] -- Energy out. The content of the blackbox may been kept secret. Even more, the content of the blackbox /must/ been kept secret. This means no assumptions about the contents of the blackbox are allowed. Anything

Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-24 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 24.11.2011 19:22, schrieb Mary Yugo: I tried translating from the Swedish PDF to English with Google. It's not entirely satisfactory but it does suggest that Kullander did consider Grabowski's paper or the same concerns from theory. If I understood him, Kullander concluded that Rossi

Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-24 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 24.11.2011 19:48, schrieb Mary Yugo: On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de mailto:peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote: Am 24.11.2011 19:22, schrieb Mary Yugo: Did he not discuss the fact, that the electrical energy was not enough for boiling

Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-24 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 24.11.2011 20:10, schrieb Peter Heckert: Btw, it is interesting to see in figure 6 that the differential steepness at 10:36 abruptly and exactly doubles. It looks as if a second 300W heater was activated. This is enough for some boiling. If there was water overflow this would

Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-24 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 24.11.2011 20:36, schrieb Peter Heckert: Am 24.11.2011 20:10, schrieb Peter Heckert: Btw, it is interesting to see in figure 6 that the differential steepness at 10:36 abruptly and exactly doubles. It looks as if a second 300W heater was activated. This is enough for some boiling

Re: [Vo]:Rossi denies Defkalion has any technology-- again

2011-11-24 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 24.11.2011 21:20, schrieb Peter Gluck: Thanks, I am very ignorant in matter of tequila, but will ask the help of the Web. BTW one of the most idiotic laws of the EU says no alcoholic beverage with more than 40% alcohol. False. There is so-called Stroh RUM (straw rum) with 50% and with 80%

Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-24 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 24.11.2011 21:30, schrieb Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint: Peter wrote: Scientific experiments must be documented for eternity, not for a single day. This is something that Rossi seemingly not understands. I can't believe these kinds of statements are still made! What Peter doesn't understand,

Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-24 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 24.11.2011 21:34, schrieb Mary Yugo: Another possible problem with the paper at http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/EssenHexperiment.pdf is that they don't say where and how they measured input power with their ammeter. Maybe they say it [snip] My suspicion is that KE did it correctly with the

Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-24 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 24.11.2011 22:08, schrieb Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint: No one is suggesting we ignore it! And who's to say that one of those magnet motors or water cars doesn't do what is claimed? I must admit, I have never seen a magnet motor or water car. Because I dont see these devices that where

[Vo]:Metallic Hydrogen

2011-11-24 Thread Peter Heckert
Hi, two researchers from the Max Planck institute say, they have made metallic hydrogen at a pressure of 220GPa. http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-11-pair-hydrogen-metal.html This was tried before, but never had success. Metallic hydrogen is believed to be superconducting at room temperature.

Re: [Vo]:Short report on Kullander's cold fusion lecture

2011-11-24 Thread peter . heckert
- Original Nachricht Von: Charles Hope lookslikeiwasri...@gmail.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com vortex-l@eskimo.com Datum: 25.11.2011 05:29 Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Short report on Kullander's cold fusion lecture On Nov 23, 2011, at 23:08, Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.com

Re: [Vo]:Andrea Rossi replies to Nobel prize winner Brian Josephson (Focus.it)

2011-11-23 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 23.11.2011 20:41, schrieb Akira Shirakawa: On 2011-11-23 19:51, Mary Yugo wrote: Does anyone still believe that after all the equivocations Rossi is going to produce an E-cat for independent testing anywhere? If so, when? To whom? Anyone think he's going to produce a credible customer

Re: [Vo]:These cynical comments are unwelcome

2011-11-23 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 23.11.2011 21:19, schrieb Robert Leguillon: So, is the weight unreliable, and Rossi was just really really, really lucky that all past demos dropped weight, and always a gram or two? I dont know, if they remove the hoses from the hydrogen bottle. The hoses will pull and some 100 grams of

Re: [Vo]:Rossi Defkalion 4 possibilities

2011-11-22 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 22.11.2011 08:43, schrieb Peter Gluck: The Energy market being insatiable, the lack of a patent can be compensted in part and temporary by speed, a commercial Blitzkrieg can help - for a while. 2 million dollars per plant. 20 millions for a license, if this works for a while, I would be

Re: [Vo]:Rossi Defkalion 4 possibilities

2011-11-22 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 22.11.2011 12:42, schrieb Jouni Valkonen: Peter Heckert wrote: »There are 4 possibilities. 1) Rossi=false, Defkalion=false 2) Rossi=false, Defkalion=true 3) Rossi=true, Defkalion=false 4) Rossi=true, Defkalion=true» My vote goes for 3). But even if Defkalion would make better ecats

Re: [Vo]:Modern theories of boiling

2011-11-21 Thread peter . heckert
- Original Nachricht Von: Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Datum: 21.11.2011 05:49 Betreff: [Vo]:Modern theories of boiling more... http://www.hps.cam.ac.uk/people/chang/boiling/discussion3.htm Interesting is the discussion that in history

[Vo]:Defkalion did not deny to use Piantelli technology!

2011-11-21 Thread peter . heckert
Ok, its time to spread some new rumours, to avoid boredness: http://www.tovima.gr/files/1/2011/11/18/Piantelli-engine%5B1%5D.jpg http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4t=508 ;-) Peter

Aw: Re: [Vo]:Defkalion did not deny to use Piantelli technology!

2011-11-21 Thread peter . heckert
It is impossible to ignore, that their latest devices look like Piantelli devices and not like Rossi devices: http://www.defkalion-energy.com/files/DGT_PRESS%20RELEASE_2011-11-14.pdf ;-) - Original Nachricht Von: Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com An:

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion did not deny to use Piantelli technology!

2011-11-21 Thread peter . heckert
Its interesting to watch how this rumour, that is based on pure speculation, grows. The more messages appear online with the words Defkalion, Rossi, Piantelli the higher the weight is that Google gives to this associations. This increases the number of postings exponentially and grows the

[Vo]:Rossi Defkalion 4 possibilities

2011-11-21 Thread Peter Heckert
I used all my abilities of clairvoyance to look into the future: There are 4 possibilities. 1) Rossi=false, Defkalion=false 2) Rossi=false, Defkalion=true 3) Rossi=true, Defkalion=false 4) Rossi=true, Defkalion=true 1) Rossi cannot know if Defkalions claims are true, but he has nothing to

Re: [Vo]:How should I demonstrate LENR, if I can reproduce it?

2011-11-20 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 20.11.2011 02:28, schrieb Daniel Rocha: Suppose I can do it, just like Rossi claims. I dont want to have to leave home nor have to heat tons of water. What should I do? The problem is to make the energy visible. Heat a known amount of water in an open vaporizer. Let the steam go out of the

[Vo]:Rossi meeted Piantelli, seeking his cooperation?

2011-11-20 Thread Peter Heckert
http://www.tovima.gr/science/article/?aid=430840 Its in greek language and letters, I used Google translate. They write: *2007:* Rossi meets Piantelli and seek its cooperation. He *refuses,* but Rossi associate itself with the Focardi. This could explain their hostility and competition. Peter

Re: [Vo]:Help in testing a E-Cat

2011-11-20 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 20.11.2011 09:47, schrieb Aussie Guy E-Cat: Amazing statements. Again with no basis in fact. Just more straw man totally negative spin stuff. I've been a power system engineer for probably longer than you have been alive. I do know how to construct a test of the E-Cat. I have also been used

[Vo]:Focardi talking about Gamma radiation.

2011-11-20 Thread Peter Heckert
In this TEDx event: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpagev=eGmgTo2Kw1U#t=564s Focardi says, that no neutrons where observed. Gamma radiation /not much above ambient level/ was observed. So it seems they added the lead shield only for security, but not for protection and

Re: [Vo]:Focardi talking about Gamma radiation.

2011-11-20 Thread Peter Heckert
researcher could present results as the hot fusionists already have, the reality of CF where already proven and accepted by mainstream. Peter On 11/20/2011 10:48 PM, Peter Heckert wrote: In this TEDx event: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpagev=eGmgTo2Kw1U#t=564s

Re: [Vo]:Focardi talking about Gamma radiation.

2011-11-20 Thread Peter Heckert
a separate power source. You cut the power off there, and once the hydrogen is used up, the device stops by itself. Now why didnt he himself have the idea to switch the apparatus off? This is the most obvious idea to try! AG On 11/20/2011 10:48 PM, Peter Heckert wrote: In this TEDx event: http

Re: [Vo]:Focardi talking about Gamma radiation.

2011-11-20 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 20.11.2011 16:43, schrieb Aussie Guy E-Cat: You did read Focardi's comments on the radiation and the transmutations: We went to Padova, where they have the appropriate instrument: we found copper. Copper has two isotopes, the ratio between the two is not in the concentration found in

Re: [Vo]:Focardi talking about Gamma radiation.

2011-11-20 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 20.11.2011 16:56, schrieb Aussie Guy E-Cat: As for the hydrogen issue, I expect selling a home / commercial space heater than contains a bottle of pressurized Hydrogen might be a hard sell. Insurance companies would have to reassess their risk. I do agree with the Hydrogen association.

Re: [Vo]:To me, this is scary

2011-11-20 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 20.11.2011 17:24, schrieb Aussie Guy E-Cat: To me this statement made by Professor Levi about the 18 hour test he and Rossi did is scary: http://www.nyteknik.se/nyheter/energi_miljo/energi/article3108242.ece “/*Minimum power was 15 kilowatts, and that’s a conservative value. I calculated it

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat guy: Hire a local HVAC engineering company!

2011-11-20 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 20.11.2011 22:35, schrieb Charles Hope: On Nov 20, 2011, at 13:05, Mary Yugomaryyu...@gmail.com wrote: And why in the world would you trust people who install large industrial devices? In my experience they have a lot of practical knowledge on how to do their jobs according to

Re: [Vo]:The Myth of the Boiling Point

2011-11-20 Thread peter . heckert
This is interesting but also partially he describes known stuff, such as degassing and boiling delay. Of course engineers and chemists know about boiling anomalies, an technical devices are built in such a way that anomalies are avoided or prevented. Also the water is treated to prevent these

Re: [Vo]:[Vo] : ECAT 1 MW System-Dazzle or Fizzle

2011-11-19 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 19.11.2011 07:48, schrieb David Roberson: On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 12:25 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com mailto:dlrober...@aol.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 12:35 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Rossi has given out

Re: [Vo]:Steam Quality Revisted -- Kettle Boiler

2011-11-19 Thread Peter Heckert
I dont think this is relevant. Rossi himself has said somewhere in a video or interview, there might be an error of 5% in the steam calculation. If we assume steam was 50% wet, which is physically impossible, then we still get a COP of about 3. 50% wet is rain and not fog or steam. So the

Re: [Vo]:Steam Quality Revisted -- Kettle Boiler

2011-11-19 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 19.11.2011 22:56, schrieb Harry Veeder: If the same water is _theoretically_ supposed to boil at the same precise temperature at a given pressure, I just don't understand how water can _theoreticallly_ survive as a liquid drop while surrounded by steam which is above the boiling point. In

Re: [Vo]:Steam Quality Revisted -- Kettle Boiler

2011-11-19 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 19.11.2011 23:19, schrieb Joshua Cude: On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 3:34 PM, Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de mailto:peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote: If we assume steam was 50% wet, which is physically impossible, then we still get a COP of about 3. 50% wet is rain and not fog

Re: [Vo]:Steam Quality Revisted -- Kettle Boiler

2011-11-19 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 19.11.2011 23:29, schrieb Harry Veeder: Prof Chang has observed it and he says it is routinely observed but it is just ignored because it doesn't fit theory. Harry I have repeatedly tested Thermoelements over boiling water and have never observed it. When he doesnt accept steam theory why

Re: [Vo]:Steam Quality Revisted -- Kettle Boiler

2011-11-19 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 19.11.2011 23:58, schrieb Alan Fletcher: In small bubbles or small drops, surface tension is dominant. This is true. There is an interesting early scientific work about water electricity from the physicist Lenard who later got the nobel price. He points out that evaporating water is

Re: [Vo]:Steam Quality Revisted -- Kettle Boiler

2011-11-19 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 20.11.2011 00:37, schrieb Jouni Valkonen: Peter wrote: » Thank you for pointing this out, it is probably correct and I was in error.» No, what Joshua said does not even resemble physics. If his explanation would be even remotely truthful, kettle boilers would be impossible, because all

Re: [Vo]:Steam Quality Revisted -- Kettle Boiler

2011-11-19 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 20.11.2011 01:01, schrieb Jouni Valkonen: Peter, I do not see how it would be possible, because if water is atomized (it would cause also loud sound instead of observed gentle boiling sound), it cannot climb the chimney, because atomized water quickly returns into liquid in the closed

Re: [Vo]:Steam Quality Revisted -- Kettle Boiler

2011-11-19 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 20.11.2011 01:38, schrieb Daniel Rocha: Not if the output is actually much higher than the input! He doesnt measure the output mass flow. He always assumes this equals the input mass flow and it is all vaporized. From this assumption he calculates the output energy. If this assumption is

[Vo]:Why is it so cold in Rossis facility? ;-)

2011-11-19 Thread Peter Heckert
They all wear pullovers and jackets. Even Kullander and Essen weared them an look at Rossi what he wears. Cant he pay the heating? Why doesnt he simply heat it with ecats? ;-) SCNR, Peter

RE: [Vo]: UK's DECC Monitoring the sector (LENR)

2011-11-18 Thread peter . heckert
- Original Nachricht Von: Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Datum: 18.11.2011 06:56 Betreff: RE: [Vo]: UK's DECC Monitoring the sector (LENR) Mary stated, In other words, they don't believe Rossi either, on the evidence that he's

Re: [Vo]: UK's DECC Monitoring the sector (LENR)

2011-11-18 Thread peter . heckert
- Original Nachricht Von: Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Datum: 18.11.2011 09:09 Betreff: Re: [Vo]: UK's DECC Monitoring the sector (LENR) On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 12:06 AM, peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote: Because he is now selling, evidence

Re: [Vo]:Scientists create light from vacuum

2011-11-18 Thread peter . heckert
- Original Nachricht Von: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com An: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Datum: 18.11.2011 09:53 Betreff: [Vo]:Scientists create light from vacuum Scientists create light from vacuum http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-11-scientists-vacuum.html Is this

Re: [Vo]:Swedish physicists run the site Ecat.com

2011-11-18 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 18.11.2011 16:11, schrieb Terry Blanton: Interesting statement: But because there are powerful forces who want to argue that it’s all about fraud, we will make one or more of the following to prove our honesty. Honesty is already proven. They have never seen it and say it is highly

Re: [Vo]:[Vo] : ECAT 1 MW System-Dazzle or Fizzle

2011-11-18 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 18.11.2011 17:41, schrieb David Roberson: I guess that I am easy to dazzle. Rossi explained the reason for the secrecy, and I believe him. And finally, I did see proof that the small units work as advertised. My domestic 10kW gasboiler is in any case better proven than the e-cat. It works

Re: [Vo]:Swedish physicists run the site Ecat.com

2011-11-18 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 18.11.2011 18:11, schrieb Mary Yugo: On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de mailto:peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote: At the same time Rossi says on his forum he has sold 13 1MW plants to an secret military organisation in a secret country. If he

Re: [Vo]:[Vo] : ECAT 1 MW System-Dazzle or Fizzle

2011-11-18 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 18.11.2011 18:58, schrieb Jed Rothwell: Mary Yugo wrote: Rossi has reported several times and it's in his patent application that he had a 35 kW E-cat Ni-H *fusion* heater heating his factory in N. Italy for more than a year. Unfortunately, nobody but Rossi has ever reported seeing it .

Re: [Vo]:[Vo] : ECAT 1 MW System-Dazzle or Fizzle

2011-11-18 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 18.11.2011 19:23, schrieb Mary Yugo: On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Mary Yugo wrote: That is incorrect. Focardi and many other people reported seeing it, including several people I know.

Re: [Vo]:New european commercial E-Cat Offer

2011-11-17 Thread peter . heckert
I wonder, why Schneider's Trans Altec is interested in the e-cat technology at all. They are already selling or promoting electromagnetic generators that produce electricity in the MW range with very little or no input energy. (Unfortunately these are expensive) Also he has a concept for

Re: [Vo]:New european commercial E-Cat Offer

2011-11-17 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 17.11.2011 17:49, schrieb Mary Yugo: On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 3:57 AM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com mailto:danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, they answered: These people seem to be selling self-running (or almost self-running) magnetic motors. I would be very suspicious that

Re: [Vo]:New european commercial E-Cat Offer

2011-11-17 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 17.11.2011 18:30, schrieb Joshua Cude: On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de mailto:peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote: No no. Schneiders Company is a successful long time runner in this business. [...] He says the energy comes out of space

Re: [Vo]:New european commercial E-Cat Offer

2011-11-17 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 17.11.2011 19:04, schrieb Mary Yugo: On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 9:56 AM, Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de mailto:peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote: Its new technology and sometimes it goes wrong, who cannot understand this. It can go wrong occasionally but if it goes wrong mainly

Re: [Vo]:Rossis Catalyst = RF+DC?

2011-11-16 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 16.11.2011 09:50, schrieb Joshua Cude: On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 1:00 AM, Marcello Vitale mvit...@ucsbalum.net mailto:mvit...@ucsbalum.net wrote: I remember a graduate student in a group in which I was a postdoc, crying (crying!) over a series of IR spectra that resulted from

[Vo]:Rossi Energy Catalyzer and National Instruments.

2011-11-16 Thread Peter Heckert
National Instruments makes high end engineering and process control and research instrumentation and software. Their products are very expensive and are used in research and in industrial production environments, but commonly not in end-products. National Instruments makes the instruments for

Re: [Vo]:When faced with reality

2011-11-16 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 16.11.2011 14:28, schrieb OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson: From Marcello, The Wright brothers were certainly complicit in the lack of attention they received. Fearful of competitors stealing their ideas, and still without a patent, they flew on only one more day after October 5. From

Re: [Vo]:thin Ni layer at center of reactor core. was Official ECAT site, finally?

2011-11-16 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 16.11.2011 22:25, schrieb francis: Daniel, It appears to contain new information that- if correct- will make for interesting discussion. [snip]The fuel, Nickel of very fine granularity + Hydrogen + catalyst, is placed in a thin layer at the center of the reactor

Re: [Vo]:ECAT.com lunch new website in association with andrea rossi.

2011-11-16 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 16.11.2011 22:44, schrieb Akira Shirakawa: On 2011-11-16 21:49, David ledin wrote: look professional http://ecat.com/ This one does look like a proper corporate website. It's also surprisingly informative and it seems it will be regularly updated too on this aspect. Way to go! I

Re: [Vo]:ECAT.com lunch new website in association with andrea rossi.

2011-11-16 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 16.11.2011 23:06, schrieb Jed Rothwell: Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de mailto:peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote: Could be a scam to collect high valued commercial email adresses, but only naive persons will send their official company adress to them. Such a scam was some

[Vo]:New european commercial E-Cat Offer

2011-11-16 Thread peter . heckert
See: http://www.transaltec.ch/facma/design.php?design=2 This is in German language. Trans Altec AG, Switzerland is offering E-Cats. Transaltec AG belongs to Ing Adolf Schneider. He is a real engineer, studied at university. He previously advertised Mike Brady's magnetmotors in the NET magazine

[Vo]:Cold fusion - thoughts

2011-11-15 Thread peter . heckert
Hello, First, let me point out, this is not about Rossi and e-cat. It is not about Piantelli. What I honestly think about them: Piantelli Focardi sometimes Stremmenos never made true caloric measurements, at least not in these papers that I have read. Piantelli has only measured temperature

[Vo]:Rossis Catalyst = RF+DC?

2011-11-15 Thread peter . heckert
Many universities and prominent institutes make experiments with metal powder and hydrogen. The Max Planck Institute for example examines the heat storge capacity at 400° for such arrangements. They also mill powder in ball mills in hydrogen athmossphere to research the hydrogen storage

Re: [Vo]:Cold fusion - thoughts

2011-11-15 Thread peter . heckert
- Original Nachricht Von: David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Datum: 15.11.2011 16:11 Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Cold fusion - thoughts I always appreciate it when someone lays bare their honest thoughts. I salute you for this Peter. One major issue

Re: [Vo]:Cold fusion - thoughts

2011-11-15 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 15.11.2011 21:36, schrieb Terry Blanton: On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 10:29 AM,peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote: - Original Nachricht Von: David Robersondlrober...@aol.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Datum: 15.11.2011 16:11 Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Cold fusion - thoughts I always

Re: [Vo]:Cold fusion - thoughts

2011-11-15 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 15.11.2011 22:14, schrieb Peter Heckert: Am 15.11.2011 21:36, schrieb Terry Blanton: On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 10:29 AM,peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote: - Original Nachricht Von: David Robersondlrober...@aol.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Datum: 15.11.2011 16:11 Betreff: Re

[Vo]:Demonstration of a lightbulb.

2011-11-15 Thread Peter Heckert
This is a true story. Edison tested many materials, metals all sorts of vegetables and everything until he had success. Finally the lightbulb was ready. It was a little bit unreliable, but it was clear it worked as a prototype. It was clear for Edison, this is a multi million dollar market. It

Re: [Vo]:Cold fusion - thoughts

2011-11-15 Thread Peter Heckert
Very interesting, indeed, I did not know this all. Thank you very much. Am 15.11.2011 22:54, schrieb Jed Rothwell: Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de mailto:peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote: Rossis demonstrations are as if Edison had drilled a pinhole in a box, put the bulb

Re: [Vo]:Cold fusion - thoughts

2011-11-15 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 15.11.2011 23:11, schrieb Mary Yugo: Inventing new technology is never easy, and it never goes according to plan. People who think Rossi and Defkalion are faking or fooling around because they are late and their devices produce only 470 kW instead of 1 MW know nothing about

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