Re: [OT] Re: [gentoo-user] Keep getting LC_ALL error during install.

2024-06-17 Thread Dale
Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Hello, Wol. > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 13:39:35 +0100, Wols Lists wrote: >> On 17/06/2024 12:17, Alan Mackenzie wrote: >>> Sadly, the FBR never made it into commercial deployment. >> Was that the one with the heavy water moderator? So a thermal runaway >> was impossible

Re: [OT] Re: [gentoo-user] Keep getting LC_ALL error during install.

2024-06-17 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hello, Wol. On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 13:39:35 +0100, Wols Lists wrote: > On 17/06/2024 12:17, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > Sadly, the FBR never made it into commercial deployment. > Was that the one with the heavy water moderator? So a thermal runaway > was impossible because you'd have no

Re: [OT] Re: [gentoo-user] Keep getting LC_ALL error during install.

2024-06-17 Thread Wols Lists
On 17/06/2024 12:17, Alan Mackenzie wrote: Sadly, the FBR never made it into commercial deployment. Was that the one with the heavy water moderator? So a thermal runaway was impossible because you'd have no moderator left? Cheers, Wol

Re: [OT] Re: [gentoo-user] Keep getting LC_ALL error during install.

2024-06-17 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hello, Peter. On Sun, Jun 16, 2024 at 23:52:15 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Sunday, 16 June 2024 20:39:52 BST Wol wrote: > > ... Back in the ancient days, you had a switch panel you toggled to put in > > the boot code. > I remember that. It was 1974. 24 key switches and lots of buttons.

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-17 Thread Dale
Dale wrote: > > I have to say, mobos and CPUs have come a long ways since my last build > about 10 or 11 years ago.  When the ASUS first booted and I went into > the BIOS thing, is it still called BIOS, it was very different.  I think > my current rig allows you to use the mouse.  It's slow tho. 

Re: [gentoo-user] Difficulty with updating /etc/basb/bashrc

2024-06-17 Thread Wols Lists
On 15/06/2024 21:10, Alan Mackenzie wrote: Why didn't you keep a copy of the old file? Because that's one of the itsy-bitsy routine things that ought to be automatic, not something that each user should have to think out for himself. Dunno which update tool it is, but istr there is a tool

Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Uefi + uki stuck while booting (/dev/gpt-auto-root)

2024-06-17 Thread Alexander Puchmayr
On Sonntag, 16. Juni 2024, 12:59:54 CEST Michael wrote: > I'm not the right person to comment reliably on this, because I don't use > systemd and do not use LVM, but until someone else chimes in I'll give it a > go ... :-) > I found the solution for my specific setup (lvm+luks+secureboot:

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Keep getting LC_ALL error during install.

2024-06-16 Thread Eli Schwartz
On 6/16/24 7:22 PM, Wols Lists wrote: > On 16/06/2024 23:39, Nuno Silva wrote: >>> And of course, all the rules get bent by the various >>> manufacturers. Bear in mind that basic EFI predates vFAT so even in >>> UEFI vFAT isn't actually mandatory. Apple don't use it, iirc. There's >>> nothing

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-16 Thread Dale
Wols Lists wrote: > On 16/06/2024 09:40, Michael wrote: >> Now to get temp sensors and stuff to work.  I want to keep a eye on >> temps for a bit.  I think the boot media was reporting the wrong >> info. >> Even the ambient temp was to high for this cool room.  It showed >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-16 Thread Wols Lists
On 16/06/2024 09:40, Michael wrote: Now to get temp sensors and stuff to work. I want to keep a eye on temps for a bit. I think the boot media was reporting the wrong info. Even the ambient temp was to high for this cool room. It showed like 100F or something when my A/C is set to 68F or so.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Keep getting LC_ALL error during install.

2024-06-16 Thread Wols Lists
On 16/06/2024 23:39, Nuno Silva wrote: And of course, all the rules get bent by the various manufacturers. Bear in mind that basic EFI predates vFAT so even in UEFI vFAT isn't actually mandatory. Apple don't use it, iirc. There's nothing stopping GNU's OpenBIOS project or whatever it is using

[OT] Re: [gentoo-user] Keep getting LC_ALL error during install.

2024-06-16 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday, 16 June 2024 20:39:52 BST Wol wrote: > ... Back in the ancient days, you had a switch panel you toggled to put in > the boot code. I remember that. It was 1974. 24 key switches and lots of buttons. You set an address on the key switches and hit SET, then ditto its contents and STORE.

Re: [gentoo-user] Keep getting LC_ALL error during install.

2024-06-16 Thread Wol
On 15/06/2024 20:35, Dale wrote: I'm not opposed to efi.  I remember when the old Grub reached its end of life. Grub2 is different but it works.  I don't use the eye candy part so that makes it even easier.  The biggest thing, I copy my kernels and such over manually and I keep a couple older

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-16 Thread Dale
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sun, Jun 16, 2024 at 12:55 AM Dale wrote: >> Besides, for the wattage >> the CPU uses, the cooler I have is waay overkill. I think my cooler >> is rated well above 200 watts. The CPU is around 100 watts, 105 I think >> or maybe 95. > So, I am just picking someplace

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-16 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote: > > Dale - sorry to bother you. > > Mark No bother at all.  Could learn something.  FYI.  I read most every post on this list.  Unless it is something I know absolutely nothing about or don't use at all, I read the posts.  I just might learn something.  I might add, stress-ng

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-16 Thread Dale
Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Sunday, 16 June 2024 14:35:34 BST Dale wrote: > >> I mentioned I found the correct drivers for the CPU and other temps >> sensors but needed to reboot. > What sensors are you using now? I just rely on what gkrellm finds; where it > shows more than one CPU or GPU temp I

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-16 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jun 16, 2024 at 12:55 AM Dale wrote: > > Besides, for the wattage > the CPU uses, the cooler I have is waay overkill. I think my cooler > is rated well above 200 watts. The CPU is around 100 watts, 105 I think > or maybe 95. So, I am just picking someplace a little random to reply

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-16 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Jun 16, 2024 at 5:59 AM Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > Am Sat, Jun 15, 2024 at 04:07:28PM -0700 schrieb Mark Knecht: > > >Now, the fun part. I wrote you a little Python program which on > > my system is called Dales_Loop.py. This program has 3 > > parameters - a value to count to, the

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-16 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday, 16 June 2024 14:35:34 BST Dale wrote: > I mentioned I found the correct drivers for the CPU and other temps > sensors but needed to reboot. What sensors are you using now? I just rely on what gkrellm finds; where it shows more than one CPU or GPU temp I choose the highest one. --

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-16 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Sunday, 16 June 2024 09:40:57 BST you wrote: >> On Sunday, 16 June 2024 05:55:45 BST Dale wrote: >>> William Kenworthy wrote: On 16/6/24 07:07, Mark Knecht wrote: > > >> I still don't understand the efi thing. I'm booted up tho. I'm > happy. > >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-16 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Sat, Jun 15, 2024 at 04:07:28PM -0700 schrieb Mark Knecht: >Now, the fun part. I wrote you a little Python program which on > my system is called Dales_Loop.py. This program has 3 > parameters - a value to count to, the number of cores to be used, > and a timeout value to stop the program.

Re: [gentoo-user] Clang update with musl

2024-06-16 Thread Michael
On Sunday, 16 June 2024 12:39:40 BST efeizbu...@disroot.org wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I've been trying to update my clang but I keep getting linking errors. > I'm on the default/linux/amd64/23.0/split-usr/musl profile. My system > has been acting kind of weird ever since the profile updates 17 ->

Re: [gentoo-user] Uefi + uki stuck while booting (/dev/gpt-auto-root)

2024-06-16 Thread Michael
I'm not the right person to comment reliably on this, because I don't use systemd and do not use LVM, but until someone else chimes in I'll give it a go ... :-) On Sunday, 16 June 2024 09:04:26 BST Alexander Puchmayr wrote: > Hi there, > > I just tried to prepare my new laptop for

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-16 Thread Michael
On Sunday, 16 June 2024 09:40:57 BST you wrote: > On Sunday, 16 June 2024 05:55:45 BST Dale wrote: > > William Kenworthy wrote: > > > On 16/6/24 07:07, Mark Knecht wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> > I still don't understand the efi thing. I'm booted up tho. I'm > > >> > > >> happy. > > >> > > >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-16 Thread Michael
On Sunday, 16 June 2024 05:55:45 BST Dale wrote: > William Kenworthy wrote: > > On 16/6/24 07:07, Mark Knecht wrote: > >> > >> > >> > I still don't understand the efi thing. I'm booted up tho. I'm > >> > >> happy. > >> > >> > Now to get temp sensors and stuff to work. I want to keep a eye

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-15 Thread Dale
William Kenworthy wrote: > > On 16/6/24 07:07, Mark Knecht wrote: >> >> > I still don't understand the efi thing.  I'm booted up tho.  I'm >> happy. >> > Now to get temp sensors and stuff to work.  I want to keep a eye on >> > temps for a bit.  I think the boot media was reporting the wrong info.

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-15 Thread William Kenworthy
On 16/6/24 07:07, Mark Knecht wrote: > I still don't understand the efi thing.  I'm booted up tho.  I'm happy. > Now to get temp sensors and stuff to work.  I want to keep a eye on > temps for a bit.  I think the boot media was reporting the wrong info. > Even the ambient temp was to high for

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-15 Thread Mark Knecht
> I still don't understand the efi thing. I'm booted up tho. I'm happy. > Now to get temp sensors and stuff to work. I want to keep a eye on > temps for a bit. I think the boot media was reporting the wrong info. > Even the ambient temp was to high for this cool room. It showed like > 100F

Re: [gentoo-user] Difficulty with updating /etc/basb/bashrc

2024-06-15 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday, 15 June 2024 23:00:07 BST Jack wrote: > A bit of searching found the wiki page for dispatch-conf, which > includes: > > Before running dispatch-conf for the first time, the settings in > /etc/dispatch-conf.conf should be edited, and the archive directory > specified in

Re: [gentoo-user] Difficulty with updating /etc/basb/bashrc

2024-06-15 Thread Jack
On 2024.06.15 02:38, Vitaliy Perekhovy wrote: On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 04:54:09PM -0400, Jack wrote: > I don't have any such directory. What package does it belong to, or is > it a config setting for portage or another package? Yes, it is a configuration of portage itself. There is an env

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-15 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Saturday, 15 June 2024 12:01:26 BST Dale wrote: >> Michael wrote: >>> b) Using a bootloader: >>> >>> Mount your ESP under the /efi mountpoint. GRUB et al, will install their >>> .efi image in the /efi/EFI/ directory. You can have your /boot as a >>> directory on your /

Re: [gentoo-user] Difficulty with updating /etc/basb/bashrc

2024-06-15 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hello, Vitaliy. On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 21:25:23 +0300, Vitaliy Perekhovy wrote: > On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 03:53:35PM +, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > I think portage is at fault here - it should retain the older standard > > version of /etc/bash/bashrc so that users can resolve the differences >

Re: [gentoo-user] Difficulty with updating /etc/basb/bashrc

2024-06-15 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hello, Netfab. On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 19:52:32 +0200, netfab wrote: > Le 14/06/24 à 19:33, Alan Mackenzie a tapoté : > > Are these files freely available, anywhere, perhaps? > Else, everything is also available from gentoo.org : > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Keep getting LC_ALL error during install.

2024-06-15 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Saturday, 15 June 2024 19:33:54 BST Dale wrote: > >> (chroot) livecd / # cat /etc/env.d/02locale >> # Configuration file for eselect >> # This file has been automatically generated. >> LANG="en_US.UTF8" >> #LC_ALL="en_US.UTF8" >> (chroot) livecd / # >> >> I commented out the

Re: [gentoo-user] Arrow and edit keys?

2024-06-15 Thread Michael
On Saturday, 15 June 2024 19:20:26 BST Alan Grimes wrote: > A number of my softwarez requires the use of the arrow keys and can't > use the numpad in edit mode to work around it. So who do I need to kill > to get arrow keys to work in x11 again? I don't understand what is the "edit mode" you

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-15 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday, 15 June 2024 17:55:17 BST Michael wrote: --->8 Thanks, but I'll stick to what I know if you don't mind. -- Regards, Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Keep getting LC_ALL error during install.

2024-06-15 Thread Michael
On Saturday, 15 June 2024 19:33:54 BST Dale wrote: > (chroot) livecd / # cat /etc/env.d/02locale > # Configuration file for eselect > # This file has been automatically generated. > LANG="en_US.UTF8" > #LC_ALL="en_US.UTF8" > (chroot) livecd / # > > I commented out the LC_ALL thinking it might

Re: [gentoo-user] Keep getting LC_ALL error during install.

2024-06-15 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Saturday, 15 June 2024 19:09:18 BST Dale wrote: >> Michael wrote: >>> On Saturday, 15 June 2024 18:24:27 BST Dale wrote: Howdy, I got down to the time zone part. When I try to run emerge --config sys-libs/timezone-data I get this output.

Re: [gentoo-user] Keep getting LC_ALL error during install.

2024-06-15 Thread Michael
On Saturday, 15 June 2024 19:09:18 BST Dale wrote: > Michael wrote: > > On Saturday, 15 June 2024 18:24:27 BST Dale wrote: > >> Howdy, > >> > >> I got down to the time zone part. When I try to run emerge --config > >> sys-libs/timezone-data I get this output. > >> > >> > >> > >> (chroot)

Re: [gentoo-user] Keep getting LC_ALL error during install.

2024-06-15 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Saturday, 15 June 2024 18:24:27 BST Dale wrote: >> Howdy, >> >> I got down to the time zone part. When I try to run emerge --config >> sys-libs/timezone-data I get this output. >> >> >> >> (chroot) livecd / # emerge --config sys-libs/timezone-data >> >> >> Configuring pkg...

Re: [gentoo-user] Keep getting LC_ALL error during install.

2024-06-15 Thread Michael
On Saturday, 15 June 2024 18:24:27 BST Dale wrote: > Howdy, > > I got down to the time zone part. When I try to run emerge --config > sys-libs/timezone-data I get this output. > > > > (chroot) livecd / # emerge --config sys-libs/timezone-data > > > Configuring pkg... > > Traceback (most

Re: [gentoo-user] CPU frequency governors and temperatures

2024-06-15 Thread Michael
On Saturday, 15 June 2024 18:24:04 BST Walter Dnes wrote: > On Sat, Jun 15, 2024 at 12:39:09PM +0100, Michael wrote > > > The maximum temperature at which your CPU die with its 65W TDP starts > > throttling to keep its temperatures safe is 100°C TjMax. Look at the > > TJunction number here: > >

Re: [gentoo-user] CPU frequency governors and temperatures

2024-06-15 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sat, Jun 15, 2024 at 12:39:09PM +0100, Michael wrote > The maximum temperature at which your CPU die with its 65W TDP starts > throttling to keep its temperatures safe is 100°C TjMax. Look at the > TJunction number here: > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Difficulty with updating /etc/basb/bashrc

2024-06-15 Thread Wol
On 14/06/2024 18:39, Alan Mackenzie wrote: Does etc-update or dispatch-conf not give you the option to selectively update and/or to diff the file? In theory, yes. In practice, dispatch-conf just offers a single ~130-line long hunk, which is useless for distinguishing wanted pieces of code

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-15 Thread Michael
On Saturday, 15 June 2024 16:28:29 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Saturday, 15 June 2024 13:01:33 BST Dale wrote: > > Could you share the boot screen again? > > New version attached... > > > I used lilo ages ago then switched to Grub. Grub is massive but it works > > well enough. > > ...as

Re: [gentoo-user] Difficulty with updating /etc/basb/bashrc

2024-06-15 Thread Wol
On 14/06/2024 16:53, Alan Mackenzie wrote: I think portage is at fault here - it should retain the older standard version of /etc/bash/bashrc so that users can resolve the differences with a 3-way diff. Is it portage itself that DID the update, or it did it tell you to do the update with

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-15 Thread Michael
On Saturday, 15 June 2024 12:01:26 BST Dale wrote: > Michael wrote: > > b) Using a bootloader: > > > > Mount your ESP under the /efi mountpoint. GRUB et al, will install their > > .efi image in the /efi/EFI/ directory. You can have your /boot as a > > directory on your / partition, or on its

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-15 Thread Dale
Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Saturday, 15 June 2024 07:53:06 BST Dale wrote: >> Peter Humphrey wrote: >>> Here's the output of parted -l on my main NVMe disk in case it helps: >>> >>> Model: Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 250GB (nvme) >>> Disk /dev/nvme1n1: 250GB >>> Sector size (logical/physical):

Re: [gentoo-user] CPU frequency governors and temperatures

2024-06-15 Thread Michael
On Friday, 14 June 2024 20:53:04 BST Walter Dnes wrote: > On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 11:54:52AM +0100, Michael wrote > > > I would think 46-48°C is refreshingly cool, but it very much depends > > on the CPU chip, the MoBo and its BIOS/microcode settings. > > I looked up my CPU (see my reply to

Re: [gentoo-user] Difficulty with updating /etc/basb/bashrc

2024-06-15 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday, 14 June 2024 18:33:57 BST Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Are these files freely available, anywhere, perhaps? Your backup from last week? :) -- Regards, Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] CPU frequency governors and temperatures

2024-06-15 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday, 14 June 2024 16:16:09 BST Michael wrote: > Liquid cooling would have made it as quiet as a church mouse. ;-) I have a machine here with liquid cooling, and over its few years it's become deafening under full load (24 simultaneous floating-point physics applications). It is quiet

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-15 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday, 15 June 2024 07:53:06 BST Dale wrote: > Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Here's the output of parted -l on my main NVMe disk in case it helps: > > > > Model: Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 250GB (nvme) > > Disk /dev/nvme1n1: 250GB > > Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B > > Partition Table:

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-15 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Saturday, 15 June 2024 07:53:06 BST Dale wrote: >> Peter Humphrey wrote: >>> On Sunday, 2 June 2024 16:11:38 BST Dale wrote: My plan, given it is a 1TB, use maybe 300GBs of it. Leave the rest blank. Have the /boot, EFI directory, root and maybe put /var on a

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-15 Thread Michael
On Saturday, 15 June 2024 07:53:06 BST Dale wrote: > Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Sunday, 2 June 2024 16:11:38 BST Dale wrote: > >> My plan, given it is a 1TB, use maybe 300GBs of it. Leave the rest > >> blank. Have the /boot, EFI directory, root and maybe put /var on a > >> separate partition.

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-15 Thread Dale
Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Sunday, 2 June 2024 16:11:38 BST Dale wrote: > >> My plan, given it is a 1TB, use maybe 300GBs of it. Leave the rest >> blank. Have the /boot, EFI directory, root and maybe put /var on a >> separate partition. I figure for the boot stuff, 3GBs would be plenty >> for

Re: [gentoo-user] Difficulty with updating /etc/basb/bashrc

2024-06-15 Thread Vitaliy Perekhovy
On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 04:54:09PM -0400, Jack wrote: > I don't have any such directory. What package does it belong to, or is > it a config setting for portage or another package? Yes, it is a configuration of portage itself. There is an env variable CONFIG_PROTECT that contains a list of

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-14 Thread Dale
Dale wrote: > Howdy, again, > > <<< SNIP >>> > > Dale > > :-)  :-)  > Update, number 1.  The CPU finally came in.  It was supposed to be here Monday, finally left the hub on Wednesday morning, went to the wrong post office.  This morning, it finally made it to the right post office and arrived in

Re: [gentoo-user] Difficulty with updating /etc/basb/bashrc

2024-06-14 Thread Jack
On 2024.06.14 14:25, Vitaliy Perekhovy wrote: On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 03:53:35PM +, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > I think portage is at fault here - it should retain the older standard > version of /etc/bash/bashrc so that users can resolve the differences > with a 3-way diff. Before replace

Re: [gentoo-user] CPU frequency governors and temperatures

2024-06-14 Thread Walter Dnes
On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 11:54:52AM +0100, Michael wrote > I would think 46-48°C is refreshingly cool, but it very much depends > on the CPU chip, the MoBo and its BIOS/microcode settings. I looked up my CPU (see my reply to Dale). The max temp allowed is 71.3 C. A short kernel compile is one

Re: [gentoo-user] Difficulty with updating /etc/basb/bashrc

2024-06-14 Thread Vitaliy Perekhovy
On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 03:53:35PM +, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > I think portage is at fault here - it should retain the older standard > version of /etc/bash/bashrc so that users can resolve the differences > with a 3-way diff. Before replace your old bashrc file, portage place the old one

Re: [gentoo-user] Difficulty with updating /etc/basb/bashrc

2024-06-14 Thread Waldo Lemmer
On Fri, Jun 14, 2024, 19:39 Alan Mackenzie wrote: Maybe I should submit a feature request to Gentoo's bugzilla. > Occasionally a package updates a file in /etc/, and I can't remember whether the file was modified by me or not. This usually happens with things I don't completely understand and

Re: [gentoo-user] Difficulty with updating /etc/basb/bashrc

2024-06-14 Thread netfab
Le 14/06/24 à 19:33, Alan Mackenzie a tapoté : > Are these files freely available, anywhere, perhaps? Else, everything is also available from gentoo.org : https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/tree/app-shells/bash/files/bashrc Click on plain to get the raw version.

Re: [gentoo-user] Difficulty with updating /etc/basb/bashrc

2024-06-14 Thread netfab
Le 14/06/24 à 19:33, Alan Mackenzie a tapoté : > Are these files freely available, anywhere, perhaps? > And if you try to get the raw version with wget ? > $ cd /tmp > $ wget > https://raw.githubusercontent.com/gentoo/gentoo/master/app-shells/bash/files/bashrc

Re: [gentoo-user] Difficulty with updating /etc/basb/bashrc

2024-06-14 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hello, Mike. On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 17:19:31 +0100, Mike Civil wrote: > On 14/06/2024 17:00, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > Right now, I have a problem. Is there any convenient way I can get the > > older standard file contents back again, so as to be able to do this > > 3-way diff? > Does

Re: [gentoo-user] Difficulty with updating /etc/basb/bashrc

2024-06-14 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hello, Netfab. On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 18:22:11 +0200, netfab wrote: > Le 14/06/24 à 17:53, Alan Mackenzie a tapoté : > > Right now, I have a problem. Is there any convenient way I can get > > the older standard file contents back again, so as to be able to do > > this 3-way diff? > The old

Re: [gentoo-user] Difficulty with updating /etc/basb/bashrc

2024-06-14 Thread netfab
Le 14/06/24 à 17:53, Alan Mackenzie a tapoté : > Right now, I have a problem. Is there any convenient way I can get > the older standard file contents back again, so as to be able to do > this 3-way diff? The old bashrc file installed by previous versions of the ebuild :

Re: [gentoo-user] Difficulty with updating /etc/basb/bashrc

2024-06-14 Thread Mike Civil
On 14/06/2024 17:00, Alan Mackenzie wrote: Right now, I have a problem. Is there any convenient way I can get the older standard file contents back again, so as to be able to do this 3-way diff? Does etc-update or dispatch-conf not give you the option to selectively update and/or to diff the

Re: [gentoo-user] CPU frequency governors and temperatures

2024-06-14 Thread Michael
On Friday, 14 June 2024 15:18:36 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Friday, 14 June 2024 13:55:49 BST William Kenworthy wrote: > > I have a (now quite old) MSsurface-pro4 with an I5 - it runs about > > 50-60c on normal use but compiling (for example) webkit-gtk and > > Libreoffice causes the temp to

Re: [gentoo-user] CPU frequency governors and temperatures

2024-06-14 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday, 14 June 2024 13:55:49 BST William Kenworthy wrote: > I have a (now quite old) MSsurface-pro4 with an I5 - it runs about > 50-60c on normal use but compiling (for example) webkit-gtk and > Libreoffice causes the temp to go way too high. I have a script checking > the cpu temps - at

Re: [gentoo-user] CPU frequency governors and temperatures

2024-06-14 Thread William Kenworthy
On 14/6/24 20:16, Dale wrote: Walter Dnes wrote: On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 10:49:57PM -0500, Dale wrote The biggest thing, find out what the exact specs are for your CPU. Then go from there.  That's your starting point tho. "grep model /proc/cpuinfo" returns 12 instances of... model

Re: [gentoo-user] CPU frequency governors and temperatures

2024-06-14 Thread Dale
Walter Dnes wrote: > On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 10:49:57PM -0500, Dale wrote > >> The biggest thing, find out what the exact specs are for your CPU.  >> Then go from there.  That's your starting point tho.  > "grep model /proc/cpuinfo" returns 12 instances of... > > model : 165 > model

Re: [gentoo-user] CPU frequency governors and temperatures

2024-06-14 Thread Walter Dnes
On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 10:49:57PM -0500, Dale wrote > The biggest thing, find out what the exact specs are for your CPU.  > Then go from there.  That's your starting point tho.  "grep model /proc/cpuinfo" returns 12 instances of... model : 165 model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)

Re: [gentoo-user] CPU frequency governors and temperatures

2024-06-14 Thread Michael
On Friday, 14 June 2024 03:52:38 BST Walter Dnes wrote: > I've been doing a bunch of kernel-compiling recently and I've switched > between schedulers from compile to compile to compare. See > https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v6.6/admin-guide/pm/cpufreq.html for > background info. All

Re: [gentoo-user] CPU frequency governors and temperatures

2024-06-13 Thread Dale
Walter Dnes wrote: > I've been doing a bunch of kernel-compiling recently and I've switched > between schedulers from compile to compile to compare. See > https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v6.6/admin-guide/pm/cpufreq.html for > background info. All frequencies in khz. On my machine... > > *

Re: [gentoo-user] Weird system freeze?

2024-06-13 Thread William Kenworthy
On 13/6/24 23:57, Dale wrote: Waldo Lemmer wrote: By the way, you should really just use the linux-firmware package if it has the firmware you need. You can plug the name of the firmware into https://portagefilelist.de to check if it does. I agree.  For firmware, this is the way to go.  I

Re: [gentoo-user] Weird system freeze?

2024-06-13 Thread Waldo Lemmer
On Thu, Jun 13, 2024, 15:06 Walter Dnes wrote: I dove into my download with mc, and it's actually a webpage with some > binary listing! No wonder it didn't work. I tried different websites > and got a 62768 byte file. I switched from Pale Moon (a Firefox fork) to > Google Chrome for linux...

Re: [gentoo-user] Weird system freeze?

2024-06-13 Thread Dale
Waldo Lemmer wrote: > By the way, you should really just use the linux-firmware package if > it has the firmware you need. You can plug the name of the firmware > into https://portagefilelist.de to check if it does. I agree.  For firmware, this is the way to go.  I use dracut and I think it even

Re: [gentoo-user] Weird system freeze?

2024-06-13 Thread Walter Dnes
On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 09:33:54AM +0100, Michael wrote > For the firmware file(s) code to be built into the kernel *all* > necessary firmware files must be present in your filesystem and the > path for these defined. The i915 directory contains the attached > list of files on my system. At

Re: [gentoo-user] Weird system freeze?

2024-06-13 Thread Michael
On Thursday, 13 June 2024 04:11:40 BST Walter Dnes wrote: > On Tue, Jun 11, 2024 at 07:45:09PM +0100, Michael wrote > > > The above errors are an indication something is amiss with the > > requisite firmware for your graphics. > > > > Have you specified this in your kernel, or in your initramfs?

Re: [gentoo-user] Weird system freeze?

2024-06-12 Thread Walter Dnes
On Tue, Jun 11, 2024 at 07:45:09PM +0100, Michael wrote > > The above errors are an indication something is amiss with the > requisite firmware for your graphics. > Have you specified this in your kernel, or in your initramfs? OK, I've downloaded kbl_dmc_ver1_04.bin now, but I'm having

Re: [gentoo-user] teams gentoo and firefox

2024-06-12 Thread Joost Roeleveld
--- Original message --- From: Pulkit Sukhija To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2024 20:28:51 +0200 microsoft has deprecated the linux binary as per my knowledge. I

Re: [gentoo-user] teams gentoo and firefox

2024-06-12 Thread Pulkit Sukhija
microsoft has deprecated the linux binary as per my knowledge. I myself use it in a browser now. On Wed, 12 Jun, 2024, 16:16 hitachi303, wrote: > Hi there, > > is anyone successfully using MS teams? Successfully like able to use it? > It appears MS is using its powers of being big to shut linux

Re: [gentoo-user] teams gentoo and firefox

2024-06-12 Thread Matt Connell
On Wed, 2024-06-12 at 18:43 +0200, hitachi303 wrote: > Thanks for the answer. I think teams-for-linux is no longer in > portage. My bad, this package is actually in ::guru (and some other repositories), not ::gentoo. I always have guru enabled so I tend to forget that its there as a separate

Re: [gentoo-user] teams gentoo and firefox

2024-06-12 Thread Lewis Handy
Microsoft to my knowledge is no longer developing / supporting teams for linux, hence why I am using it via Chrome these days - the Linux version just did not work correctly for me in my corporate environment. On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 at 17:43, hitachi303 wrote: > Am 12.06.24 um 18:22 schrieb Matt

Re: [gentoo-user] teams gentoo and firefox

2024-06-12 Thread hitachi303
Am 12.06.24 um 18:22 schrieb Matt Connell: On Wed, 2024-06-12 at 12:46 +0200, hitachi303 wrote: is anyone successfully using MS teams? Successfully like able to use it? I use Teams, and I rely on it, but not in a browser. I use the teams-for-linux[1] version, which is available as a

Re: [gentoo-user] teams gentoo and firefox

2024-06-12 Thread Matt Connell
On Wed, 2024-06-12 at 12:46 +0200, hitachi303 wrote: > is anyone successfully using MS teams? Successfully like able to use > it? I use Teams, and I rely on it, but not in a browser. I use the teams-for-linux[1] version, which is available as a flatpak[2] or via portage as net-im/teams-for-linux

Re: [gentoo-user] teams gentoo and firefox

2024-06-12 Thread Lewis Handy
I use it with Chrome and it works just fine for me - not tried with firefox On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 at 11:46, hitachi303 wrote: > Hi there, > > is anyone successfully using MS teams? Successfully like able to use it? > It appears MS is using its powers of being big to shut linux users with >

Re: [gentoo-user] teams gentoo and firefox

2024-06-12 Thread Meowie Gamer
Try using chromium maybe? Sent from Proton Mail Android Original Message On 6/12/24 06:46, hitachi303 wrote: > Hi there, > > is anyone successfully using MS teams? Successfully like able to use it? > It appears MS is using its powers of being big to shut linux users

Re: [gentoo-user] Weird system freeze?

2024-06-12 Thread Michael
On Wednesday, 12 June 2024 06:53:29 BST Walter Dnes wrote: > On Tue, Jun 11, 2024 at 07:45:09PM +0100, Michael wrote > > > The above errors are an indication something is amiss with the > > requisite firmware for your graphics. Have you specified this in > > your kernel, or in your initramfs? >

Re: [gentoo-user] Weird system freeze?

2024-06-11 Thread Walter Dnes
On Tue, Jun 11, 2024 at 07:45:09PM +0100, Michael wrote > The above errors are an indication something is amiss with the > requisite firmware for your graphics. Have you specified this in > your kernel, or in your initramfs? > > See here: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Intel No mention of my

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: (EE) AddScreen/ScreenInit failed for driver 0 [SOLVED]

2024-06-11 Thread Michael
On Tuesday, 11 June 2024 20:17:44 BST n952162 wrote: > On 6/11/24 17:58, n952162 wrote: > > Am I forgetting something ? > > Yes. x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel This package will be brought in as a dependency by emerge, as long as you have specified the correct VIDEO_CARDS="" drivers[1] in

Re: [gentoo-user] Weird system freeze?

2024-06-11 Thread Matt Connell
On Tue, 2024-06-11 at 00:14 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: >   What is "lean"?  My system has 16 gigs ram. 16GB is what I meant by lean. IMO, for a machine that is running desktop applications and building packages while being used interactively, at the same time, 16 just doesn't cut it. It doesn't

Re: [gentoo-user] (EE) AddScreen/ScreenInit failed for driver 0

2024-06-11 Thread n952162
On 6/11/24 19:48, Joost Roeleveld wrote: --- Original message --- From: n952162 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2024 18:59:25 +0200 Just wanted to see if it was a

Re: [gentoo-user] Weird system freeze?

2024-06-11 Thread Michael
On Tuesday, 11 June 2024 19:30:28 BST Walter Dnes wrote: > On Tue, Jun 11, 2024 at 11:05:27AM +0100, Michael wrote > > > Can you share the output of your dmesg? > > The only potentially interesting stuff is attempting to load a couple > of firmware blobs that I'm not aware of... > > [

Re: [gentoo-user] (EE) AddScreen/ScreenInit failed for driver 0

2024-06-11 Thread n952162
On 6/11/24 20:16, Michael wrote: On Tuesday, 11 June 2024 18:48:56 BST Joost Roeleveld wrote: --- Original message --- From: n952162 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2024 18:59:25 +0200

Re: [gentoo-user] (EE) AddScreen/ScreenInit failed for driver 0

2024-06-11 Thread n952162
On 6/11/24 18:55, Joost Roeleveld wrote: --- Original message --- From: n952162 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2024 17:58:40 +0200 Am I forgetting something ?

Re: [gentoo-user] Weird system freeze?

2024-06-11 Thread Walter Dnes
On Tue, Jun 11, 2024 at 11:05:27AM +0100, Michael wrote > Can you share the output of your dmesg? The only potentially interesting stuff is attempting to load a couple of firmware blobs that I'm not aware of... [0.220521] Loading firmware: i915/kbl_dmc_ver1_04.bin [0.220530] i915

Re: [gentoo-user] (EE) AddScreen/ScreenInit failed for driver 0

2024-06-11 Thread Michael
On Tuesday, 11 June 2024 18:48:56 BST Joost Roeleveld wrote: > --- Original message --- > From: n952162 > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2024 18:59:25 +0200 > > > > Just

Re: [gentoo-user] (EE) AddScreen/ScreenInit failed for driver 0

2024-06-11 Thread Joost Roeleveld
--- Original message --- From: n952162 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2024 18:59:25 +0200 Just wanted to see if it was a known, current issue before I put in some

Re: [gentoo-user] (EE) AddScreen/ScreenInit failed for driver 0

2024-06-11 Thread n952162
Just wanted to see if it was a known, current issue before I put in some due-diligence. On 6/11/24 18:55, Joost Roeleveld wrote: --- Original message --- From: n952162 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2024 17:58:40 +0200

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