Accenture is saying that now might be the time for banks to replace
their core systems and retool to new technology. They don't actually
say it, but it sounds to me like their saying that big banks should get
off the mainframe. comments?
http://www.banktech.com/blog/archives/2009/11/why_
Hi:
This is a little self-serving for Accenture. If banks continue to modernize
their legacy systems, Accenture won't be able to sell their services and
the software they developed for BBVA and I believe for BS (Spanish banks).
I am sure the software, hardware and consulting costs will be q
ain't!
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Tom [thomas.kel...@commercebank.com]
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 11:22 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture
On 30 Nov 2009 09:59:09 -0800, sc...@aitrus.org (Scott) wrote:
>I'm not necessarily arguing for leaving the Mainframe, but cleaning up the
>dungheap of COBOL is long overdue and now *is* the time for that.
Periodically, the business model needs to be re-analyzed, and the IS
model should be change
On 30 Nov 2009 09:35:05 -0800, d...@bkassociates.net (Doug Fuerst)
wrote:
>How does replacing one mainframe with loads of hot running servers save
>money? This is nothing more than more Accenture bigotry against
>mainframes. The regulatory environment is likely to dictate LESS brands
>and servi
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Howard Brazee wrote:
> Periodically, the business model needs to be re-analyzed, and the IS
> model should be changed to better fit the changed business model.
>
> The core of the new system, as the core of the old system, should be
> the data model.The tools u
>They don't actually say it, but it sounds to me like their saying that big
>banks should get off the mainframe. comments?
Having worked in the financial sector for most of my career, I would say it's a
very bad idea.
Nothing beats the integrity, reliability, and security of mainframe.
(Of
Scott wrote:
I'm not necessarily arguing for leaving the Mainframe, but cleaning up the
dungheap of COBOL is long overdue and now *is* the time for that. Accenture
is only a company you hire if you want an offshore entity to cook your books
while you bankrupt your stockholders. Accenture is jus
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Scott
> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 11:58 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Subject: Re: Now is time for banks to replace core system
> according to A
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article
that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well.
sc...@aitrus.org (Scott) writes:
> With a cheaper job market, now is the time to hire hands to go through your
> massive libraries of copy-and-paste COBOL and begin
eeSM and The
MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM
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> [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Steve Comstock
> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 12:17 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Subject: Re: Now is time for banks to
it works for me.
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[sc...@aitrus.org]
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 11:30 AM
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Subject: Re: Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture
On Behalf Of
> Scott [sc...@aitrus.org]
> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 11:30 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Subject: Re: Now is time for banks to replace core system according to
> Accenture
>
> With a cheaper job market, now is the time to hire hands to go through your
How does replacing one mainframe with loads of hot running servers save
money? This is nothing more than more Accenture bigotry against
mainframes. The regulatory environment is likely to dictate LESS brands
and services in the future, especially if a Glass-Steagall replacement
is eventually en
McKown, John wrote:
I agree that Enterprise COBOL has the potentiality for excellent code.
One thing lacking that exist for Java, Perl, Ruby, and other such
languages is a HUGE support library. CPAN has so much good stuff in it
that writing something like a browser in Perl is simple. Try it in
Kelman, Tom wrote:
> Accenture is saying that now might be the time for banks to replace
> their core systems and retool to new technology. They don't actually
> say it, but it sounds to me like their saying that big banks should get
> off the mainframe. comments?
>
>
>
> http://www.bankte
With a cheaper job market, now is the time to hire hands to go through your
massive libraries of copy-and-paste COBOL and begin some initial
design/development of Java libraries.
Scott
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Kelman, Tom wrote:
> Accenture is saying that now might be the time for banks
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re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#67 Now is time for banks to replace core
system according to Accenture
semi-advertisement warning ... in the past
Well, I've got an opinion on just about everything. I haven't seen good
COBOL code (and I've seen a lot, so far). To me that's enough evidence of
some tremendous failure, somewhere--organizational or design. That isn't to
suggest that bad code is exclusively in COBOL's domain. I've seen
exponen
On 30 Nov 2009 10:58:01 -0800, john.mck...@healthmarkets.com (McKown,
John) wrote:
>I agree that Enterprise COBOL has the potentiality for excellent code.
>One thing lacking that exist for Java, Perl, Ruby, and other such languages
>is a HUGE support library. CPAN has so much good stuff in it th
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Scott
> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 1:33 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Subject: Re: Now is time for banks to replace core system
> according to Accenture
On 30 Nov 2009 10:46:19 -0800, eamacn...@yahoo.ca (Ted MacNEIL) wrote:
>>They don't actually say it, but it sounds to me like their saying that big
>>banks should get off the mainframe. comments?
>
>Having worked in the financial sector for most of my career, I would say it's
>a very bad i
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Howard Brazee
> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 1:42 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Subject: Re: Now is time for banks to replace core system
> according to A
That's a very broad statement to make - and I might say a ridiculous one.
There is plenty of well-written, excellent Cobol code out there - some of
which I have written over the years:-)
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Scott wrote:
> ...snip ... I haven't seen good
> COBOL code (and I've
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of
Scott
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 2:33 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture
Well, I've got an opinion on just about everything. I haven&#x
Hey, there's a reason my blog is called "inherently lame" and not
"voice of reason"!
Scott
On Monday, November 30, 2009, Guy Gardoit wrote:
> That's a very broad statement to make - and I might say a ridiculous one.
> There is plenty of well-written, excellent Cobol code out there - some of
> w
On 30 Nov 2009 12:06:56 -0800, veilleu...@aetna.com (Veilleux, Jon L)
wrote:
>Well I have to pipe up and respond to this remark. There are a TON of COBOL
>programs here that have been running for years and years with no problems
>and reasonable performance. Once they get replaced by JAVA, etc, th
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Howard Brazee wrote:
> People don't need college to learn Java. Java's available for free,
> it handles the kind of applications an amateur knows & likes to play
> with, and it is easy to find help on the Web.
>
People don't need college to learn brain surgery,
Ted MacNEIL wrote:
Nothing beats the integrity, reliability, and security of mainframe.
(Of course, I'm biased)
Of course you're biased.. (and Ted I'm not directing this at you, but your comment is typical of
many I see).. We're all biased on this list (typically!!) but a lot of the time to
I agree with you.
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Subject: Re: Now is time for banks to replace core system according to
Accenture
>They do
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Accenture
McKown, John wrote:
> I agree that Enterprise COBOL has the potentiality for excellent code.
> One thing lacking that exist for Java, Perl, Ruby, and other such
> languages is a HUGE s
Good meaning programmed well? Easy to read? Easy to understand?
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Behalf Of Scott
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 1:33 PM
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Subject: Re: Now is time for banks to replace core
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On
Behalf Of Scott
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 2:33 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Now is time for banks to replace core system according to
Accenture
Well, I've got an opinion on just about everything. I haven't
What?!? Not sure how'd you define "decent" but I don't see the point of
this statement at all. ServerPac and SMP/E (not to mention HCD) are
excellent products. If you're trying to compare installing and maintaining
IBM mainframe software to say, Windows, please don't make me laugh - wait
until
On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:04:44 -0800, Guy Gardoit wrote:
>What?!? Not sure how'd you define "decent" but I don't see the point of
>this statement at all. ServerPac and SMP/E (not to mention HCD) are
>excellent products. If you're trying to compare installing and maintaining
>IBM mainframe softw
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
> Hardly nonsense. On Win or Mac, when Firefox tells me it
> needs an update, I click on "Update". A few minutes later,
> it tells me to restart Firefox to activate the update.
> I click "Restart Firefox" to warmstart. Two clicks and
> its
I somehow missed the original message. SMP/E has some warts. But with
ShopzSeries and the RECEIVE FROM NETWORK or NTS, it is much easier to
order and RECEIVE maintenance. In fact, I had problems with the tapes
when installing z/OS 1.10, due to tape I/O errors. Instead of reordering
the tapes, I did
On Mon, 2009-11-30 at 19:04 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:04:44 -0800, Guy Gardoit wrote:
>
> >What?!? Not sure how'd you define "decent" but I don't see the point of
> >this statement at all. ServerPac and SMP/E (not to mention HCD) are
> >excellent products. If you'r
Steve Comstock writes:
>That being said, I agree a good support library would be nice to
>have. Something richer than the LE library of routines.
Aren't there many COBOL-callable library routines? Wouldn't the following
be some common examples?
CICS Transaction Server for z/OS
IMS Transaction Ma
Paul Gilmartin wrote:
Hardly nonsense. On Win or Mac, when Firefox tells me it
needs an update, I click on "Update". A few minutes later,
it tells me to restart Firefox to activate the update.
I click "Restart Firefox" to warmstart. Two clicks and
its done.
You're updating a live system;
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin
>
> On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:04:44 -0800, Guy Gardoit wrote:
>
> >What?!? Not sure how'd you define "decent" but I don't see the
point of
> >this statement at all. ServerPac and SMP/E (not to mention
] Now is time for banks to replace core system
according
> to Accenture
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Howard Brazee
wrote:
>
> > People don't need college to learn Java. Java's available for free,
> > it handles the kind of applications an amateur knows &am
.
Ron
> -Original Message-
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> Paul Gilmartin
> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 5:04 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Now is time for banks to replace core system
accord
t: Monday, November 30, 2009 10:43 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Now is time for banks to replace core system
according
> to Accenture
>
> Gil,
>
> Updating Firefox is a bit luck updating a program. IEBCOPY and possibly an
> LLA refresh and your don
Kelman, Tom pisze:
Accenture is saying that now might be the time for banks to replace
their core systems and retool to new technology. They don't actually
say it, but it sounds to me like their saying that big banks should get
off the mainframe. comments?
Comment: Their banking system (
Guy Gardoit wrote:
What?!? Not sure how'd you define "decent" but I don't see the point of
this statement at all. ServerPac and SMP/E (not to mention HCD) are
excellent products. If you're trying to compare installing and maintaining
IBM mainframe software to say, Windows, please don't make
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of
Paul Gilmartin
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 8:04 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture
On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:04:44 -0800, Guy Gardoit wrote:
>What?!?
(816) 760-7632
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> Behalf Of R.S.
> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 3:44 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Subject: Re: Now is time for banks to replace core system according to
> Accenture
>
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 1:36 AM, Ron Hawkins
wrote:
> Gee, I didn't finish High School. Better slit my throat now...
>
And I dropped out of college, twice, never finished. What's your point?
Sensitive much? Sheesh.
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> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ward, Mike S
> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 5:25 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Subject: Re: Now is time for banks to replace core system
> according to Accent
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of P S
>
> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 1:36 AM, Ron Hawkins
> wrote:
>
> > Gee, I didn't finish High School. Better slit my throat now...
> >
>
> And I dropped out of college, twice, never finished.
I took three "swings" a
Rex
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Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 7:04 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Now is time for banks to replace core system according to
Accenture
On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:04:44 -0800
On 30 Nov 2009 15:30:42 -0800, mw...@ssfcu.org (Ward, Mike S) wrote:
>> One thing lacking that exist for Java, Perl, Ruby, and other such
>> languages is a HUGE support library. CPAN has so much good stuff in it
>
>> that writing something like a browser in Perl is simple. Try it in
>COBOL.
>> W
On 30 Nov 2009 14:28:26 -0800, ibm-m...@frozen.eclipse.co.uk (Roy
Hewitt) wrote:
> But what gives the mainframe such a bad name is usually the pile of 40 year
> apps
>stuck together running on top of it and our resistance to change.. (oh, and
>our morbid fascination
>with 3270!!) And why did
On 1 Dec 2009 01:44:52 -0800, r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl (R.S.)
wrote:
>Q: Why do you think that new technology means non-mainframe?
I suppose because IBM hasn't done a very good job of marketing itself
to compete with Oracle/Sun/HP/Windows server farms.
-
Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On
Behalf Of Ron Hawkins
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 12:46 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Now is time for banks to replace core system according to
Accenture
Should be "Updating Firefox is a bit like..." Damn Spellchecker
3270!!) And why did we get this
> way?.. well it's what I call the pair of "IBM's double-edged swords".
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#67 Now is time for banks to replace core
system according to Accenture
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#68 Now is time
On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 11:29:08 +, Roy Hewitt wrote:
>
>My point was about the structure of the way the system is set up, names etc..
>I mentioned the fact
>that IBM took years to finally get rid of version numbers in dataset names.
>Anyone who knew what
>
Java is still burdened with version num
Sarcasm - I use heading next time :-)
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On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:58:23 -0600, John McKown wrote:
>
>problem is with DASD space. I needed to grab 10 3390-3 volumes for the
>z/OS 1.10 install. And our management here is looking at "wasted" DASD
>space, so I can't keep the volumes around very long.
>
Less than two decades ago, I had to work o
em according to Accenture
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#68 Now is time for banks to replace core
system according to Accenture
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#69 Now is time for banks to replace core
system according to Accenture
early days of 3380 ... there was a study that showed
On 1 Dec 2009 07:12:07 -0800, rex.pomm...@cnasurety.com (Pommier, Rex
R.) wrote:
>Hardly nonsense. On Win or Mac, when Firefox tells me it
>needs an update, I click on "Update". A few minutes later,
>it tells me to restart Firefox to activate the update.
>I click "Restart Firefox" to warmstart.
>And I dropped out of college, twice, never finished. What's your point?
Sensitive much? Sheesh.
It was sarcasm!
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> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
> [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Guy Gardoit
> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 11:35 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Subject: Re: Now is time for banks to replace core system
> according to Acc
In a message dated 12/1/2009 12:29:52 P.M. Central Standard Time,
john.mck...@healthmarkets.com writes:
Anybody who is not mentally challenged can get a drivers license. As can
any drunkard. Does that mean that they should really be driving? I don't
think so, but I'm an "elitist snob".
>
, November 30, 2009 9:58 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Now is time for banks to replace core system according to
Accenture
I'm not necessarily arguing for leaving the Mainframe, but cleaning up
the dungheap of COBOL is long overdue and now *is* the time for that.
Accenture is only a co
or its plug-ins)
> working correctly.
>
> I have had troubles upgrading Opera though on my Mac, and I have had
> Windows machines at work where I did not have sufficient upgrade
> privilege.
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#67 Now is time for banks to replace core
system a
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On
Behalf Of HUTCHISON Gregory
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 12:48 PM
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Subject: Re: Now is time for banks to replace core system according to
Accenture
Accenture is out for
Guy Gardoit pisze:
"stay out of the kitchen" - very well put. Any moron can load Windows,
or update "Firefox" so let's try to make z/OS that way. Ridiculous and
irrelevant comparison.
It is simply part of truth. It's not "any moron's" job, rather it's
being done automatically - any moron
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Thompson, Steve
>
>
>
> I am so glad you brought this up.
>
> Does anyone remember who Accenture was?
Arthur Andersen, IIRC.
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In <4b143c91.2000...@frozen.eclipse.co.uk>, on 11/30/2009
at 09:43 PM, Roy Hewitt said:
>I mean, how many times on this list do we keep harping on about how
>wonderful it was when we had to handcraft our own IO routine
>etc etc!!
Who is we? I don't believe that I'm the only one one this li
On 1 Dec 2009 12:03:50 -0800, steve_thomp...@stercomm.com (Thompson,
Steve) wrote:
>I am so glad you brought this up.
>
>Does anyone remember who Accenture was?
>
>And since this is a consulting company, telling people that they need
>to... isn't this a bit self-serving? Something akin to Airline
On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 10:51:53 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
>On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:58:23 -0600, John McKown wrote:
>>CA is adopting this type of process as well with their Mainframe 2.0. I
>>was at the demo and was impressed.
>>
>I saw their demo at SHARE. I was impressed particularly that it's
>S
.
From:
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12/01/2009 03:03 PM
Subject:
Re: Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture
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> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Thompson, Steve
>
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Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 2:32 PM
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Accenture
> -Original Mess
-
<><>People don't need college to learn Java. Java's available for
free, it handles the kind of applications an amateur knows & likes to
play with, and it is easy to find help on the Web.
<><>People don't need college to learn brain
--:
Accenture is saying that now might be the time for banks to replace
their core systems and retool to new technology. They don't actually
say it, but it sounds to me like their saying that big banks should get
off the mainframe. comme
-
I just believe that's the way CEOs and CIOs will read it. Most of them really
think that the mainframe, especially using z/OS, is old technology even with
the changes that have been put in place.
I really love this board.
Gee, I didn't finish High School. Better slit my throat now...
And I dropped out of college, twice, never finished. What's your point?
Sensitive much? Sheesh.
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I gave up a promising
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I mean, how many times on this list do we keep harping on about how
wonderful it was when we had to handcraft our own IO routine
etc etc!!
Who is we? I don't believe that I'm the only one one this list to write
that I would never wan
Chase, John pisze:
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Thompson, Steve
I am so glad you brought this up.
Does anyone remember who Accenture was?
Arthur Andersen, IIRC.
No. Former name of Accenture was Andersen Consulting (www.ac.com), not
Arthur An
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
> [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 9:38 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Subject: Re: Now is time for banks to replace core system
> a
While this discussion has evolved into a discourse on HLLs and library
support, I would like to make an observation.
A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away, Accenture was Arthur Anderson
Consulting. My company contracted with them to assess the status of our
technology and its direction. Whil
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman
> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 6:55 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Subject: Re: Now is time for banks to replace core system
> a
Mark Yuhas said:
>A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away, Accenture was Arthur Anderson
>Consulting. My company contracted with them to assess the status of our
>technology and its direction. While it was a foregone conclusion they would
>recommend a shift to UNIX, I was totally underwhelme
isc. other posts in this thread:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#67 Now is time for banks to replace core
system according to Accenture
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#68 Now is time for banks to replace core
system according to Accenture
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#69 Now
In <52bc4b80912010934w67887d68u6cc96a670a3ac...@mail.gmail.com>, on
12/01/2009
at 09:34 AM, Guy Gardoit said:
>Any moron can load Windows,
Any moron can buy a box with windoze preinstalled. Loading it yourself is
another matter.
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ISO p
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Martin Kline wrote:
> Wow. I don't recognize your name, but I went through exactly the same
> experience with the woefully inexperienced staff from AA. They burned $35M
> of the company's money before being booted out the door. Yet, they were
> such good salesmen,
On 02 Dec 09 08:18:10 -0800, "Charlie Gibbs"
wrote:
>This is why I tell people that "interactive" is a synonym for "manual".
>It stops a lot of GUI enthusiasts dead in their tracks, at least for
>a few seconds.
I'll have to remember that.
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article
that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well.
rfocht...@ync.net (Rick Fochtman) writes:
> I wouldn't mind looking back at the "good old days", but only for
> hysterical purposes. SIO/TIO/HIO are NOT areas I woul
On 1 Dec 2009 13:59:08 -0800, shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net (Shmuel Metz
, Seymour J.) wrote:
>Who is we? I don't believe that I'm the only one one this list to write
>that I would never want to go back to the "good old days."
I don't know of anybody who wants everything that went with those
days.
On 2 Dec 2009 00:17:46 -0800, r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl (R.S.)
wrote:
>>> Does anyone remember who Accenture was?
>>
>> Arthur Andersen, IIRC.
>
>No. Former name of Accenture was Andersen Consulting (www.ac.com), not
>Arthur Andersen.
>It was separate entity lng time before Enron bankru
om/2006/08/visa_usa_first_.html
another reference:
http://www.digitaltransactions.net/newsstory.cfm?newsid=1009
as referenced in previous post
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#69 Now is time for banks to replace core
system according to Accenture
we had been brought in to help do what ha
R.S. wrote:
And Andersen Consulting is (was) not Arthur Andersen.
According to the Accenture item in Wikipedia, It was once part of Arthur
Andersen. See the article for more information as to how the name became
Accenture.
KG
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Subject: Re: Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture
Howard Brazee pisze:
> On 2 Dec 2009 00:17:46 -0800, r.skoru...@would you snip my
> address.com? (R.S.)
> wrote:
>
>>>> Does anyone remember who Accenture was?
>>
Depends on where the filler cap and timing chain is. I tried it on a 190d
and it was real messy. Guess if you were careful could pour it down the
dipstick...
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On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 00:29:42 -0600, Chase, John
wrote:
>> -Original Message-
>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin
>>
>> Hardly nonsense. On Win or Mac, when Firefox tells me it
>> needs an update, I click on "Update". A few minutes later,
>> it tells me to
he startup also had
> this technology called "SSL" that they wanted to use. the result
> is now frequently called "electronic commerce".
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#68 Now is time for banks to replace core
system according to Accenture
http://www.garlic.com
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