Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
>> Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin <ka...@striplin.net> >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors >> >> So let me ask this. If water is standing in that low spot up against the >> foundation can water "wick" upward along the inside of the stem wall to > the

Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-29 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
ary 29, 2017 11:33 AM > To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin <ka...@striplin.net> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors > > So let me ask this. If water is standing in that low spot up against the > foundation can water "

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2017-01-29 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Certainly. Look up “capillary action”. But understand that water is probably puddling in that corner as well, despite it draining away after maybe a short time. Intrusion around the window openings is certainly a possibility, too. > On Jan 29, 2017, at 11:33 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via

Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
One other thing also. From doing some research online I will be back over there today and I am going to make sure the brick actually has weep holes like it should, which is supposed to drain any water out from behind the bring that may get in rather than it finding its way out to other spots.

Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
So let me ask this. If water is standing in that low spot up against the foundation can water "wick" upward along the inside of the stem wall to the flooring area? We also seem to have a water intrusion issue at the window of one of the bedrooms on the front of the house because as I was

Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-29 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
I would look at two things regarding the constructIon of the house as to the moisture: 1.) The gutter in the corner is not configured properly. There should be some sort of "splash guard" on the outside edge of the gutter to prevent water from washing over the side. What's happening is that

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2017-01-29 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Automotive uses: Carbide thin kerf blade makes a great panel cutter for removing damaged areas. It's possible to make plunge cuts in center of a panel.. invent other applications I haven't thought of. Gasket scraper: Grind the teeth off of a straight blade [re-purpose one thats gone dull] and

Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I have seen these but never gave them a thought. Do they have any automotive uses also? Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 28, 2017, at 11:46 PM, G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > Kaleb, > That is the saw I had in mind.. I bought one, liked it so much, I bought a > second

Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-28 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
I have that type of saw, but made by Fein. Good stuff. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

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2017-01-28 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Kaleb, That is the saw I had in mind.. I bought one, liked it so much, I bought a second one. If you use just a bit of inventiveness you'll find ways to cut things you never thought possible.. BTW.. Home Depot also sells a saw like it.. for lots more money.. however the blades will work on the

Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-28 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin <ka...@striplin.net> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors > > Ok so I just got out from under the house again. You guys are right, we do have > water getting in somewhere as the store wall is now damp as is the wood

Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-28 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Yep! you might try running it around the edge of the tiles to see it they will pop up as Grant suggested. BUt it is good for cutting right up to the wall. When you are finished cutting stuff out, be sure to span the joist spaces where the patch will meet the old subfloor with blocking so

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2017-01-28 Thread MG via Mercedes
That's the best one to get. You can vary the speed on it and sometimes that helps to do a better job. Manfred Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Is this the sort of saw you are talking about?

Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-28 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Is this the sort of saw you are talking about? http://www.harborfreight.com/power-tools/oscillating-tools/variable-speed-oscillating-multi-tool-63111.html On 1/28/2017 2:54 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: This is the best idea I have heard so far. Can you share a link to this HF

Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-28 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
If the tile is unbroken now, and you can knock the grout out and cut the plywood out in tile sized pieces, maybe you have an excuse to buy a gas engine high potency pressure washer to blast the wood/mastic off the back of the tiles so you can reuse them? That way you don't have to buy or cut

Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-28 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
This is the best idea I have heard so far. Can you share a link to this HF saw you are talking about? Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 28, 2017, at 2:24 PM, G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > I would look at doing the whole job from the top side, instead of trying to > lay

Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-28 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
I would look at doing the whole job from the top side, instead of trying to lay on my back under the house, since the tile underlay boards have failed also. Harbor Freight sells a nice [cheap is nice when it works] flush cut vibrating saw with all kinds of different blades. I would use one of

Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-28 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sat, 28 Jan 2017 14:17:10 -0500 (EST) Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: > > > On January 27, 2017 at 6:27 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" > > wrote: > > > > The joists themselves are fine except on the very end. > > Then I'd cut out all the

Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-28 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> On January 27, 2017 at 6:27 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" > wrote: > > The joists > themselves are fine except on the very end. Then I'd cut out all the rot, leaving only 100% solid wood, and run TWO replacement joists, one nailed and glued on each side of the

Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-27 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I thought about that if we end up just renting it. The only soft spot is in that corner where you see that cracked tile. The rest of the floor is solid except it was dropped down about 1/4", but I jacked it back up and it is supported and shown in the photos, so there is added support and

Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-26 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
That doesn't look so bad on the inside. Is the damaged subfloor punky or just discolored? If the subfloor is essentially intact maybe you can reinforce from below with pieces of subfloor cut to fit between the joists and supported by cleats or sisters nailed to the existing joists. Some

Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-26 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
017 11:34 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Cc: Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors > > I had a spectacular display after dropping two plates maybe 8" vertically onto > the granite counter top..

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2017-01-26 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
those rock hard countertops suck bigtime. Just one more reason why. Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes January 26, 2017 at 10:33 PM I had a spectacular display after dropping two plates maybe 8" vertically onto the granite counter top.. The shards skittered clear

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2017-01-26 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I had a spectacular display after dropping two plates maybe 8" vertically onto the granite counter top.. The shards skittered clear across the counter and kitchen floor. Took hours to find every little fleck. On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 10:15 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

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2017-01-26 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
We have not had any breakage due to the granite counter tops - no more than the formica ones previously. The key is not to drop glass things on them! On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 1:36 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Less breakage on kitchen floors with a wood

Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-26 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Why for? We have '80s era Formica now, it's fine but dated looking... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 7:08 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: Granite, quartz, concrete, tile etc., hard countertops suck big time.  I'll take formica

Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-26 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
You don’t own a miter saw and you’re going to attempt to repair all this stuff? Lumber Liquidators. I’m sure there’s one in Tulsa or other major city nearby. Cheapass flooring that will look decent and cost little. -D > On Jan 26, 2017, at 7:30 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes >

Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I have no miter saw, would Have to buy one from HF or something Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 26, 2017, at 6:23 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > I saw 69¢/ sq ft. there is always something available for under a buck a sq > ft. It is about the same as the

Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-26 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
maybe you could salvage the laundry room tiles by pulling up the floor sheets and throw that in a pond, pool, stock tank, ebola fishbowl full of water, creek, river, (etc.) and let it soak for a week or so. the chipboard will disintegrate, leaving you the the tile and thinset or other

Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-26 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I saw 69¢/ sq ft. there is always something available for under a buck a sq ft. It is about the same as the cheapest tile you can find (like what is in your house) without the adhesive, backer board or grout. Since the pergo type floor needs no backerboard, thinset(adhesive) or grout, the

Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-26 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Granite, quartz, concrete, tile etc., hard countertops suck big time. I'll take formica or laminated hard maple anytime. Curt Raymond via Mercedes January 26, 2017 at 2:04 PM I never thought of that, I've been thinking of granite counters... -Curt

Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Well I have about 50-60k in equity in it. Would be a shame to lose that. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 26, 2017, at 4:10 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > > And, if the bank dumps it and gets less than it is owed, they will sue you > for the balance including

Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Yes Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 26, 2017, at 4:25 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Which becomes taxable income, too, I believe. > > -D > >> On Jan 26, 2017, at 5:10 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> And, if the bank

Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-26 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Which becomes taxable income, too, I believe. -D > On Jan 26, 2017, at 5:10 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > > And, if the bank dumps it and gets less than it is owed, they will sue you > for the balance including all of their costs. > > RB

Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-26 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
And, if the bank dumps it and gets less than it is owed, they will sue you for the balance including all of their costs. RB On 26/01/2017 4:07 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Trying to avoid a forclosure on my record Sent from my iPhone On Jan 26, 2017, at 3:35 PM, Randy Bennell

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2017-01-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Trying to avoid a forclosure on my record Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 26, 2017, at 3:35 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > > Handing the keys to the bank is not a good option. > > RB > > On 26/01/2017 3:33 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: >>> ‎We are too

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2017-01-26 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Handing the keys to the bank is not a good option. RB On 26/01/2017 3:33 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: ‎We are too the point we need to just get >rid of it or get it rented. Hand the bank the keys and say, "Here you go". Or sell it for what you owe. Rick ‎

Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-26 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
>‎We are too the point we need to just get >rid of it or get it rented. Hand the bank the keys and say, "Here you go". Or sell it for what you owe. Rick ‎ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or

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2017-01-26 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
That and it’s probably the crappiest time of year to be selling a home, too. You should spend some time making it right, but not invest a lot of money, and have it ready to go on the market in March. That’s when things start heating up. -D > On Jan 26, 2017, at 4:26 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin

Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
We are too the point we need to just get rid of it or get it rented. It is in a good area but for some reason we have only had maybe 2-3 showings in the almost 90 days it has been on the market. It is really strange. Other realtors are saying it's a slow moving price range right now. Sent from

Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
The tile was not mounted to an underlay, it is stuck directly on the plywood subfloor. The laundry room is also across a hall which is carpeted so it does not directly contact the tile in the kitchen That area you see the gas meter will sometime get standing water there if we get a lot of

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2017-01-26 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
What about the new wood that doesn't burn - what is the name? Some sort of composite made in huge slab and cut to dimension. Fire resistant, etc. Search finds CLT - cross laminated timber. Someone here in DIY okiebenz knows CLT, probably. A recent article indicated it is quite fire resistant

Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-26 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 26/01/2017 2:19 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: The area is dry as a bone. The house sat without windows or doors for 2-3 years, not a few days. How cheap or expensive is this wood flooring stuff? Tile seems too expensive and hard to deal with to me. But the question is really

Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-26 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Brick is sometimes porous and the house looks to be pretty low to the ground. I also note lots of leaves. Does the eavestrough fill up with leaves and does the rainwater then pour over onto the ground? That might be enough to have caused your rotted sill. Hard to tell without actually being

Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
The area is dry as a bone. The house sat without windows or doors for 2-3 years, not a few days. How cheap or expensive is this wood flooring stuff? Tile seems too expensive and hard to deal with to me. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 26, 2017, at 2:14 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes

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2017-01-26 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
Looks like the area isn't graded away from the house. That's a no-no. Second, I concur on the engineered wood floor. There are plenty of places that sell the cheap stuff that would look decent enough to get the place sold. No need to put good stuff like Pergo in there. And to pile on, the rot

Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-26 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
;; Mercedes Discussion List < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 2:36 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors > > Less breakage on kitchen floors with a wood floor. Granite countertops, > do, however, cause some SPECTACULAR shattering. > On Thu, Jan

Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-26 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I never thought of that, I've been thinking of granite counters... -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com> To: Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com>; Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 2:36 PM Subject: Re: [

Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-26 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
If > you get the pre-finished stuff it goes in fast. > -Curt > > From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Cc: Randy Bennell <rbenn...@bennell.ca> > Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2

Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-26 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
nnell.ca> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 12:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors I don't see any reason why you cannot repair it yourself. It is not all that complicated - just a bit of a mess that will take time. You need to open it up and remove and replace the damaged joists and floor

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2017-01-26 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
ared.net> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors On Thu, 26 Jan 2017 13:54:12 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Having gone around our house with the inspector I'm inclined to agree. > Also for stuff like w

Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-26 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
It's been my experience that if a bank ran the finish build out on the property, they will have cut every possible corner to "contain costs", which means they cheated at every possible point. Just bought a property here that was a victim of the 2008 banking crash, builder had started a

Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-26 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
the winter, I plan to replace it in the spring. -Curt From: Curley McLain via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 9:34 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fixing fl

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2017-01-26 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
m> Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin <ka...@striplin.net> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 9:02 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors So if your car has an issue is it a pile of junk? Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 26, 2017, at 7:52 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > <mercedes@okiebe

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2017-01-26 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
I don't see any reason why you cannot repair it yourself. It is not all that complicated - just a bit of a mess that will take time. You need to open it up and remove and replace the damaged joists and floor sheathing. I would suggest you use pressure treated dimensional lumber for the

Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-26 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
The roof ??? On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 7:07 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I don't see where it would be coming in as this wall is along a windowless > area of the house. There is a Window on the front of the house 90 degrees > to this wall that is about 3-4

Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-26 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Thu, 26 Jan 2017 09:02:09 -0700 Craig via Mercedes wrote: > On Thu, 26 Jan 2017 07:07:45 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" > wrote: > > > I don't see where it would be coming in as this wall is along a > > windowless area of the house.

Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-26 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Thu, 26 Jan 2017 13:54:12 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > Having gone around our house with the inspector I'm inclined to agree. > Also for stuff like water intrusion in the basement he was just > wrong. "Oh this basement doesn't look like its ever had

Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-26 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Thu, 26 Jan 2017 07:07:45 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" wrote: > I don't see where it would be coming in as this wall is along a > windowless area of the house. There is a Window on the front of the > house 90 degrees to this wall that is about 3-4 feet away.

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2017-01-26 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
I suspect it's all up to who you hire. We've used inspectors on every purchase or sale we've done since 1986, and every one of them has been great. We vet them carefully and always get references, which may have something to do with our success. The last one we used spent over four hours on

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2017-01-26 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
t: Wednesday, January 25, 2017 7:45 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors Well the problem is that bank is out of business. That is on the buyer anyway as buyers have a certain amount of time after contract executed to do inspections and request repairs or bail on contract. Linoleum is a no

Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
t another way: a dump... ;) > -Curt > > From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin <ka...@striplin.net> > Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2017 7:45 PM > Subject: Re: [

Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-26 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Cc: Dimitri <dsereta...@yahoo.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2017 7:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors I don't get inspections when I buy.  Waste of time and money and an inspection contingency makes your offer less competitive in a hot market. Also a lot of times, inspectors a

Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-26 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
..@striplin.net> Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2017 7:45 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors Well the problem is that bank is out of business. That is on the buyer anyway as buyers have a certain amount of time after contract executed to do inspections and request repairs or bail on

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2017-01-26 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I'd never replace it... -Curt From: Max Dillon via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Max Dillon <dillonm...@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2017 7:37 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors I put a tile floor in

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2017-01-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Mercedes >> Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2017 7:08 PM >> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >> Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin <ka...@striplin.net> >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors >> >> Here are the photos of the rotting area and my temp fix > &g

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2017-01-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
The area in question is maybe 4 feet long along that wall. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 25, 2017, at 11:05 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes > wrote: > > When I bought my current house it had a chronic water leak in a half bath > that seriously rotted the hardwood floor,

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2017-01-25 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
and that is why I asked about leaking around the windows or somewhere. Jim Cathey via Mercedes January 26, 2017 at 12:16 AM I concur. Open construction gets wet easily, but it also dries easily. Doesn't really want to rot, but will go silver. Rot means wet, and

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2017-01-25 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
I concur. Open construction gets wet easily, but it also dries easily. Doesn't really want to rot, but will go silver. Rot means wet, and more wet, on top of wet. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

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2017-01-25 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin <ka...@striplin.net> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors > > Here are the photos of the rotting area and my temp fix ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://ww

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2017-01-25 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
When I bought my current house it had a chronic water leak in a half bath that seriously rotted the hardwood floor, subfloor, and joists. That room was small, maybe 5x6 ft. I removed the fixtures and ripped out the rotted wood. It was so bad I could pull up chunks by hand and a flat pry bar was

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2017-01-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
It's possible I will check. There are currently no terminates but there were. The side that is in those photos is not even near a window thought. I figure when it sat empty with no widows it rained in and water ran down all along that side wall. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 25, 2017, at

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2017-01-25 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
That crap chipboard is about all you can buy now. 15 yrs ago or so, it was about the same price as plywood. Plywood does not rot as fast, does not swell as much in humidity, and does not become a torch in a fire. If they'd used 3/4" Doug fir plywood, your floor would probably be OK.

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2017-01-25 Thread rogerhga--- via Mercedes
Kaleb, Just a suggestion...contact the "This Old House" gang and see if they'll come fix your house as a show project. I've seen them fix issues like yours on their shows. I had a front entry way section of a house done years ago (termite damage), but it was done by a professional. He did a

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2017-01-25 Thread clay via Mercedes
They make a floating flooring that looks like tile or rock. Might be ok. Cut out the whole sheet of damaged and do it right. Put the tile backer if you do go with tile. Then use the tile that comes in sheets already stuck together. I hate particle board with a passion. I see all manner

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2017-01-25 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Put a 240D badge on the front door, get Dimitri to drive down with his welding kit and he will take care of everything so it's stronger than new. On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 10:05 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Well it would be a decent sized area I would need

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2017-01-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Well it would be a decent sized area I would need to replace because I would open the floor up big enough for me to work in. I am not crawling back and forth under the house. Yes I do not know why they used that crappy particle board type crap. If it was not rotten then yes that would make it

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2017-01-25 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
the pergo will go down a lot faster. If you can find it on sale, it may be cheaper than tile. Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes January 25, 2017 at 8:14 PM See doesn't seem too hard to me. Sent from my iPhone ___

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2017-01-25 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
And replace the sill plate as needed. Got a contractor friend who will inspect the work and put it under his E & O Ins for a fee? THat would shift the liability. Or set up a C corp with your BIL or some such, hire the corp to do the work. (You work for the corp.) Get estimates, bills

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2017-01-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
See doesn't seem too hard to me. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 25, 2017, at 8:05 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > Jack it up, replace rotted joists, set it level, rip out rotted subfloor and > replace. > Then put down proper underlayment and redo tiles. >

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2017-01-25 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Jack it up, replace rotted joists, set it level, rip out rotted subfloor and replace. Then put down proper underlayment and redo tiles. Sounds like fun, eh? Mitch. > On January 25, 2017 at 8:02 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" > wrote: > > > Now tell me how to

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2017-01-25 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Get a crane, pick up house, replace rotten wood. Or maybe that guy the Rich mentioned, Spanish fellow, Fuego something? He could probably fix you right up. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On January 25, 2017 8:02:36 PM EST, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"

Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Now tell me how to fix my floor. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 25, 2017, at 6:58 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes > wrote: > > I don't get inspections when I buy. Waste of time and money and an > inspection contingency makes your offer less competitive in a hot market. > Also

Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-25 Thread Dimitri via Mercedes
I don't get inspections when I buy. Waste of time and money and an inspection contingency makes your offer less competitive in a hot market. Also a lot of times, inspectors are less knowledgeable than I. If it has structural issues I can see them and just budget that in. If electrical etc is

Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Well we were young and dumb then and I don't think our realtor even mentioned it. Wife became a realtor after this. The house we bought a couple of years ago I did not pay for an inspector other than a termite inspection. I did my own inspections. Afterward I have found a few things here and

Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
All of this is disclosed on the disclosure form with the listing actually. Basically the way it works here is any defects or damage that are known must be disclosed on the disclosure form that all realtors can access currently. If somebody makes an offer they put x amount of dollars for

Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Well the problem is that bank is out of business. That is on the buyer anyway as buyers have a certain amount of time after contract executed to do inspections and request repairs or bail on contract. Linoleum is a no go. This is a higher end house is a high end neighborhood. This pergo

Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-25 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Probably too late to go after them, based on what the law says. And shame on Kaleb for buying a house without an inspection. Even more so since his wife was/is a realtor. In fairness, however, we bought our first house without an inspection and in hindsight had we had it inspected we would

Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-25 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I agree with most of what you say, however, when you’re talking about a house and the potential liability of an improper repair that could come back and bite you (if not discovered prior to the sale) it’s cheaper in my mind to shift the liability to someone else. And, if you don’t disclose it

Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-25 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I was wondering if the bank and or their contractor is liable. Where's Snook? Craig via Mercedes January 25, 2017 at 6:23 PM On Wed, 25 Jan 2017 19:16:38 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes Is not the one who sold to Kaleb liable for deception? Did he have an

Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-25 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
I put a tile floor in our kitchen, HARD hard work on your knees all day (and yes there should have been cement backer-board under all that tile) so be warned. I think linoleum would be a better choice, slap that down and let the new owners put down tile or whatever. Talk to a lawyer about

Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
No I did not. I was naive at the time and we were pretty much steered toward that house by our realtor. This realtors coworker at the same real estate office was the listing agent and her uncle was the bank president who owned it. So we were pretty much funneled to it. Whatever. I still don't

Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-25 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 25 Jan 2017 19:16:38 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > Man, I hate to say this, but I would leave this to a professional since > it’s a structural issue. If you get a home inspector in there for a > potential buyer and they find repairs that are structural in

Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-25 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Man, I hate to say this, but I would leave this to a professional since it’s a structural issue. If you get a home inspector in there for a potential buyer and they find repairs that are structural in nature that haven’t been done properly, they’re going to bolt and in a big hurry. Then you

[MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
So this involves the rent house from hell that has been empty for over 3 months now trying to get it rented or sold. This house was built in 2002 but the builder was foreclosed on. House sat without any windows or doors for probably a year or 2 until the bank came in and finished it, and it