Re: Mixing and Matching of Network Types: Or What the Router Saw
You know, Charles, you have a bright future as a Lab Proctor. You definitely have the proper attitude. Chuck www.cl.cncdsl.com/locutus.html Cthulu, CCIE Candidate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:8nv8t1$aj8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hi, all, > > This is a repost...after two days, I have not seen this appear. Apologies > if this is redundant... could be useful info! > > I was dickering around with OSPF (which is not as easy as it looks, > dickering, I mean, not OSPF). I raised some questions to myself, > and posted them to the Cisco TAC about how or whether I could/should mix > point to point and point to multipoint network types over a frame relay > network. The short answer is yes, Cisco answer is "we don't recommend > it.".While you can do it, I agree with Cisco: on a production network, > I would ensure that everything > matched (network types, etc). However, in my lab and in the pursuit of > knowledge, who cares;) > > As always, flames to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Charles > > > > KEY POINT: HELLO! (Hello intervals must match.) Sub-point: this would be > a good exam gotcha, wouldn't it? > > Original Question: > On a frame relay partially meshed network, can I use ip opsf network > point-to-multipoint on the hub router, and ip ospf network point-to-point on > the spokes? > > Additional Info: > I have 3 routers on a frame relay partially meshed network. The hub router, > A, has a link to the spokes, B and C. I am running OSPF over this network. > > > > My question is: > On a frame relay partially meshed network, can I use ip opsf network > point-to-multipoint on the hub router, and ip ospf network point-to-point on > the spokes? > Would this work? Are there any known problems with this? > > > From Cisco TAC: > You need to specify 'ip ospf network point-to-multipoint' on all the routers > for > > this to work. Alternatively, you could use subinterfaces. > > > From Charles Riley: To Cisco TAC > > Thought you guys could use more detail on this; I did some more research on > my own question; here's the answer I was looking for: > > OSPF will work in situation where you have a point to point on one side and > a point to multipoint on the other side IF and only IF: (over a frame relay > network) > > 1. The point to multipoint side can be either a physical or logical > interface; use the ip os network command to set it as such. > > 2. The point to point side must be a point to point subinterface; OSPF will > automatically detect it as such when you add the interface to the OSPF > routing process. > > 3. You must set the Hello intervals to match on both sides. Once you have > done that, this configuration will work. > > As a rule of thumb, ensure that your OSPF network types match on both sides. > This is a Cisco recommendation and is a good one. I had wanted to get > official Cisco verification that you can run OSPF successfully with > mismatched network types as long as the Hello timers matched ONLY on point > to point and point to multipoint types. You can not mix point to > point/point to multipoint with broadcast/nonbroadcast: the former do not > use DRs; the latter do. > > This would be good information to keep int he QA forum. > > Many thanks for your original response. > > Charles > > > > > > > > ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what is this match statement matching?
Your match ip address 1 is allowing all traffic thru hence the 0.0.0.0 and the match ip next-hop 2 where the ip address of 172.16.20.1 is the next-hop router or as this seems the default-gateway on this configuration.Hope this helps. -jek- Luobin Yang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hi, group > > I have a configuration as following > > router ospf 10 > default-information originate route-map send_default_if > > access-list 1 permit 0.0.0.0 > access-list 2 permit 172.16.20.1 > > route-map send_default_if permit 10 > match ip address 1 > match ip next-hop 2 > > My question is, what routes is the access-list 1 matching ? IP route > table? or OSPF database routes? > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Perfomance prob with Router-Router IPSEC tunnel..
Nandu, From what your saying is that your using your tunnel as the encrypt/decrypt point of access for the VPN internal connection.First question; is why are you wanting to run a VPN thru a leased line on an internal network.Second; is all traffic on the leased line being encrypted. What size of lease line are your working with << 56 / 64 / FR / T1 / ISDN ? >>.You can use an IPSec encrypted VPN without running thru a tunnel interface.All you have to do is to setup your access-list properly.Send me your config's offline; along with the Size of the Circuit and I'll work with you on going around the tunnel-to-tunnel config.Thanks. -jek- Cisco Group <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 15BC1866E5CFD111900E00A0C9A6F35E03FE8EFA@CTSINCSISXUC">news:15BC1866E5CFD111900E00A0C9A6F35E03FE8EFA@CTSINCSISXUC... Hi Guyz, We are having a cisco router-router IPSEC tunnel between two locations(Intranet VPN) over an internal leased line.The performance is very poor even though the link is only 40% utilised. On examining we found that the tunnel bandwidth is only 9k..Is there anyway I can increase the tunnel bandwidth or can i have an IPSEC connection without using a tunnel so that i can use more bandwidth in the link.. There is a bandwidth command in the interface mode but it is only for calculation of cost and it has no impact on the actual tunnel bandwidth Can anyone pls help me out with this...Thanx in advance.. Regards, Nandu
Re: telnet via AUX port
This is one of those fun ones. Each router listens for the break sequence and forwards the second, then resets to listening again. So when you type the break sequence: Ctrl-Shift-6 1st gets stopped at R1 (R1 looks for 'x') 2nd passed by R1 & gets stopped at R2 (R2 looks for 'x') 3rd gets stopped at R1 (R1 looks for 'x') 4th passed by R1 & R2, gets stopped at R3 (R3 looks for 'x') 5th gets stopped at R1 (R1 looks for 'x') 6th passed by R1 & gets stopped at R2 (R2 looks for 'x') 7th gets stopped at R1 (R1 looks for 'x') 8th passed by R1 & R2 & R3, gets stopped at R4 (R4 looks for 'x') etc. etc. etc. To break from the 2514 (R3) to the 2503 (R2) you would type: Ctrl-Shift-6, Ctrl-Shift-6, x Rodgers Moore, CCNP, CCDP-Security "folks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:8nro8n$hnk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hi group >Recently , I have setup my network with 3 2500 routers, and each console > and AUX port are connected in chain: > > PCconsole 2501 AUX---console 2503 AUX---console 2514---AUX. > I can telnet to 2514 from my PC via reverse telnet, but the problem is each > time i issue 'ctrl+shift+6+x' from 2514,connection will be back to the very > origin place where the telnet session is initiate, which is 2501 in this > case, I mean to go back to 2503 when i was 2514 but fail. >Can anybody help me out ,how should i do? > I don't have any other router like 2509 at all. > Thanks > > ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Router for play @ home
I say look for a 1605 on ebay. They have 2 ethernet ports, so it can actually be used in a practical scenario instead of just to play with. You should be able to find one relatively cheap on ebay. Or, if you can't find a 1605, many sellers offer 2 2501's in a bundle. Then just run them back to back behind your cable modem. cable modem | | ethernet | cisco 2501 | | T1 or serial connection | cisco 2501 | | ethernet | your home lan In either of those 2 situations, you can setup the cisco w/ nat, packet filtering, firewalling, etc. But as far as cisco routers go, a few hundred bucks is a small investment if you plan on pursuing a career involving cisco gear. You won't regret it. :) -Norm - Original Message - From: "Taylor, Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Mike Sholar'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Group Study" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 2:38 PM Subject: RE: Router for play @ home > I made the mistake of getting a 924 before checking with my cable company. > Do that first to a) make sure your equipment will actually work with their > network (they're going to have to reprovision your circuit anyway, so you > may as well call them first), and b) make sure they allow you to have your > own equipment on their circuit. I found out, to my dismay, that I am in a > lease-only area right now, i.e. I hafta use their crappy Motorola modem. =( > > - Don > > -Original Message- > From: Mike Sholar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 5:29 AM > To: Group Study > Subject: Router for play @ home > > > Hello people! > > Not exactly a cert question, but it applies. I will soon be getting cable > intenet access at the house, and would like to purchase a cisco router to > play with behind the cable modem. What series router should I be looking at, > just to learn the ios and play around with. I am working on my CCNA, and > realize a physical router is not necessary, but I will be progressing > upwards and would like the experience. I looked at the 924 cable > modem/router cisco sells, and the $899 price tag was a little much for > play-time! Thanks for the input. > > Mike > > MCSE, MCP+I > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > * > The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. > It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else > is unauthorized. > > If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution > or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited > and may be unlawful. When addressed to our clients any opinions or advice > contained in this email are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in > the governing KPMG client engagement letter. > * > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Legacy???
Being from Denmark sometimes makes it harder to understand what in the world they are talking about in the books, and here's an example where I am not sure what they mean because I do not understand the full meaning of the word "legacy" even though I have looked it up in a dictionary. There's a note that reads "Rotary groups are considered legacy DDR". What exactly does that mean? Thanks in advance, Ole Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Router for play @ home
you had a road to lick? you were lucky!! -Original Message- From: Maness, Drew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 3:51 PM To: Group Study Subject: RE: Router for play @ home "...And I used to get up every morn'n about an 'our before I went to bed and lick the road clean with my tongue..." -Original Message- From: Cohen, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 3:12 PM To: Group Study Subject: RE: Router for play @ home OC12? I'm waiting on the OC192VSR interfaces to stick in my GSR's! Till then I'll have to settle with my OC48's:) -Mike -Original Message- From: ZAPP, JULIAN F (PB) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 2:08 PM To: 'Ledwidge, Feargal'; 'Mike Sholar'; Group Study Subject: RE: Router for play @ home 7513 are nice, but I have more fun with my 12000 GSR's. I would rather have OC12, but the OC3 connections are fast enough. -Original Message- From: Ledwidge, Feargal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 12:23 PM To: 'Mike Sholar'; Group Study Subject: RE: Router for play @ home I think you 'll find that a couple of 7513's will make for a pretty good home lab ... ;-) Feargal -Original Message- From: Mike Sholar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 5:29 AM To: Group Study Subject: Router for play @ home Hello people! Not exactly a cert question, but it applies. I will soon be getting cable intenet access at the house, and would like to purchase a cisco router to play with behind the cable modem. What series router should I be looking at, just to learn the ios and play around with. I am working on my CCNA, and realize a physical router is not necessary, but I will be progressing upwards and would like the experience. I looked at the 924 cable modem/router cisco sells, and the $899 price tag was a little much for play-time! Thanks for the input. Mike MCSE, MCP+I ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: IP Telephony Specialization
Probably because Call Manager runs on Win2K. Feargal -Original Message- From: Kevin Wigle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 3:34 PM To: Cisco Subject: IP Telephony Specialization Dear Group, At http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/767/spcl/iptel/req.html one of the CCNAs has to be MCSE 2000. Can anyone say how the Microsoft cert fits into IP Telephony? I might have thought for IPSec and maybe VPN but I'm not up on how Win2000 relates to IP Tel. I'm a MCSE 3.51/4.0 so I'll probably do the 2000 thing but I was hoping to forego further M$ certs and carry on with more Cisco stuff. Any ideas on why Cisco wants you to have a M$ cert?? Kevin Wigle CCDP/CCNP/CSE/MCSE/CBE/CBI <- just too many to keep.. ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IP Telephony Specialization
Installation of Call Manager which runs on NT/2000. I really don't think it is "necessary" except that cisco wants to ensure at least a basic level of NT/2000 skills. Niall Kevin Wigle wrote: > Dear Group, > > At http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/767/spcl/iptel/req.html > > one of the CCNAs has to be MCSE 2000. > > Can anyone say how the Microsoft cert fits into IP Telephony? > > I might have thought for IPSec and maybe VPN but I'm not up on how Win2000 > relates to IP Tel. > > I'm a MCSE 3.51/4.0 so I'll probably do the 2000 thing but I was hoping to > forego further M$ certs and carry on with more Cisco stuff. > > Any ideas on why Cisco wants you to have a M$ cert?? > > Kevin Wigle > CCDP/CCNP/CSE/MCSE/CBE/CBI <- just too many to keep.. > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Some of my best information on tuning EIGRP came from colleagues, both native and US military, in the former Yugoslavia. They pointed out how to tune around error rates caused by gunfire hitting the telephone lines. - Howard Berkowitz on Groupstudy 3/13/2000 ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: IP Telephony Specialization
Kevin, The reason Cisco Wants an MCSE 2000 is due to the fact that the CCM version 3.0X (Cisco Call Manager) runs on a Win2000 platform. It is basically a PBX in a Windows Server.interesting huh? Hope this helps. David -Original Message- From: Kevin Wigle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 5:34 PM To: Cisco Subject:IP Telephony Specialization Dear Group, At http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/767/spcl/iptel/req.html one of the CCNAs has to be MCSE 2000. Can anyone say how the Microsoft cert fits into IP Telephony? I might have thought for IPSec and maybe VPN but I'm not up on how Win2000 relates to IP Tel. I'm a MCSE 3.51/4.0 so I'll probably do the 2000 thing but I was hoping to forego further M$ certs and carry on with more Cisco stuff. Any ideas on why Cisco wants you to have a M$ cert?? Kevin Wigle CCDP/CCNP/CSE/MCSE/CBE/CBI <- just too many to keep.. ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: IP Telephony Specialization
>From what I understand (covering myself in case of flamage) Cisco is partnered with Microsoft to use a paired down version of NT running on a Compaq server as the LDAP server for their VoIP product. It's what sets-up and breaks-down the calls. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Kevin Wigle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 3:34 PM To: Cisco Subject: IP Telephony Specialization Dear Group, At http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/767/spcl/iptel/req.html one of the CCNAs has to be MCSE 2000. Can anyone say how the Microsoft cert fits into IP Telephony? I might have thought for IPSec and maybe VPN but I'm not up on how Win2000 relates to IP Tel. I'm a MCSE 3.51/4.0 so I'll probably do the 2000 thing but I was hoping to forego further M$ certs and carry on with more Cisco stuff. Any ideas on why Cisco wants you to have a M$ cert?? Kevin Wigle CCDP/CCNP/CSE/MCSE/CBE/CBI <- just too many to keep.. ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCIE Written, last minute advice!
Taking the CCIE R/S exam at 9:00AM any last minute advice? Patrick
Not 1 answer FW: Load Balancing On 2503 Serial Ports
Guys and Gals. I didnt receive one response to this.is this because it is not possible, or just too difficult to implement Any response would be appreciated. Thanks Douwe Gday everyone Setting up a lab, and following on from my last email about the maximum throughput using a DCE-DTE cable on a serial port achieving a maximum of 4mbps. (DCE serial port set with clockrate 400) Nowobviously the speed is a little slow, so I decided to buy a second cable to hook up to the second serial port on both routers and do a little load balancing. Having never configured load balancing in this manner before, I went looking through the cisco site to see what I could find. The only thing I could find was "Multilink Via Virtual Template on 2 Serial Interfaces". I guess ultimately this will achieve what I am after, but it not the same method of configuring that I would have used. Has anyone had any success with loadbalancing 2 serial ports for a lab environment? I guess there are a number of issues that come to mind...and if any of you have any thoughts, experience, or good sites that I could visit, I would be grateful. Do I need to setup a lookback address for each router, and assign each serial port to use ip unnumbered and the ip address of the loopback? Is this the best way to get the load balancing to work? I want permanent load balancing so that the full 8mb is permanently available to all traffic. Obviously I need to set the load threshold to 0 or 1 (I cant quite recall which one)? If I allocate an IP address to each interface, and I am using static routing...do I need to reallocate the routes to the new interface? Sorry if some of these questions seem obscure, but you know how it is when sometimes you are looking so closely at something that you fail to see the bigger picture. Thanks in advance for your time and effort Douwe Visit our Website : http://www.traveland.com.au Disclaimer - This message and any attachments are confidential and may contain privileged information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message is prohibited. If you have received this message in error please notify Traveland Pty Ltd immediately by return email. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of Traveland Pty Ltd. ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit our Website : http://www.traveland.com.au Disclaimer - This message and any attachments are confidential and may contain privileged information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message is prohibited. If you have received this message in error please notify Traveland Pty Ltd immediately by return email. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of Traveland Pty Ltd. ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Router for play @ home
"...And I used to get up every morn'n about an 'our before I went to bed and lick the road clean with my tongue..." -Original Message- From: Cohen, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 3:12 PM To: Group Study Subject: RE: Router for play @ home OC12? I'm waiting on the OC192VSR interfaces to stick in my GSR's! Till then I'll have to settle with my OC48's:) -Mike -Original Message- From: ZAPP, JULIAN F (PB) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 2:08 PM To: 'Ledwidge, Feargal'; 'Mike Sholar'; Group Study Subject: RE: Router for play @ home 7513 are nice, but I have more fun with my 12000 GSR's. I would rather have OC12, but the OC3 connections are fast enough. -Original Message- From: Ledwidge, Feargal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 12:23 PM To: 'Mike Sholar'; Group Study Subject: RE: Router for play @ home I think you 'll find that a couple of 7513's will make for a pretty good home lab ... ;-) Feargal -Original Message- From: Mike Sholar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 5:29 AM To: Group Study Subject: Router for play @ home Hello people! Not exactly a cert question, but it applies. I will soon be getting cable intenet access at the house, and would like to purchase a cisco router to play with behind the cable modem. What series router should I be looking at, just to learn the ios and play around with. I am working on my CCNA, and realize a physical router is not necessary, but I will be progressing upwards and would like the experience. I looked at the 924 cable modem/router cisco sells, and the $899 price tag was a little much for play-time! Thanks for the input. Mike MCSE, MCP+I ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: $13,300 for 5 months
Dude, you need to tell your friend, that with such an amount , he could buy all the hands on tools needed ranging from MCSE to C.C.I.E and still have some spare change to buy a used car. just a little dedication and patience, but I am less fortunate to have such an amount so go figure Adedapo. --- Rah Sta wrote: > > To all, > > I have a friend who wants to get into networking. He plans on taking a 5 > month networking course at CHUBBS. I told him he's crazy. He said that they > will give him the skills he need to PASS 4 Microsoft exam(MCSE) and CCNA. I > told him that impossible, especially for $13,500. He lives in the New > York/New Jersey area. I know there are better courses out there. Does any > one have any suggestion? He has $13,500 to spend. > >Raheem > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: How to pronounce? router
Its correct pronunciation is phonetically akin to 'route-ers' with 'route' yielding an 'ou' sound much like in the word Ouch. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Kane > Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 5:20 PM > To: ElephantChild; Maccubbin, Duncan > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: How to pronounce? router > > > Or a kiwi , > (this whole thread breaks me up just quietly...) A word of advice to you > folks in the Northern Hemisphere , don't be coming down to the > Antipodes and > talking about "Rooters" , it may yield unexpected results!! > > Rgrds > > - Original Message - > From: "ElephantChild" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Maccubbin, Duncan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 5:02 AM > Subject: RE: How to pronounce? router > > > > On Wed, 23 Aug 2000, Maccubbin, Duncan wrote: > > > > > I can verify this. We had a guy here last week from London. He kept > talking > > > about updating the roots in the rooter. Took me a minute to figure out > what > > > he was talking about. > > > > I, for one, would definitely use the US pronou^Hnciation. For one thing, > > it's safer if there's an Aussie within hearing distance. :-) > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Ole Drews Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 9:50 AM > > > To: 'Ajaz Nawaz'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: RE: How to pronounce? router > > > > > > Take a look here: > > > > > > http://www.dictionary.com/cgi-bin/dict.pl?term=router > > > > > > The funny thing is that it can be pronounced different ways. > > > > > > I, being from Denmark, have used the word both there and in Houston, > Texas > > > where I have lived for the last four years, and both places I have > always > > > used and heard it pronounced "rau-dor". > > > > > > I have never heard it pronounced "roo-ter" - not even at Hooters :-) > > > > > > Hth, > > > > > > Ole > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Ajaz Nawaz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 8:14 AM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: How to pronounce? router > > > > > > How should one pronounce - ROUTER > > > > > > In England most say - rooter > > > > > > I know in the US most say - rau ter > > > > > > Paul Borghese wrote: > > > > > > > In Boston it is: > > > > > > > >Tkaas > > > > > > > > In New York it is: > > > > > > > >"Who wants to know?" > > > > > > > > In New Jersey it is pronounced TACACS but you need to give not just > your > > > Username and Password but also what exit. > > > > > > > > In Georgia it is pronounced Tacacs but you need to add a > "ya' all" to > the > > > end and the password is always peach. > > > > > > > > In San Francisco it is pronounced: > > > > > > > > Tacacs.com > > > > > > > > Paul Borghese > > > > > > > > ""Cthulu, CCIE Candidate"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in > message > > > 8nvemd$p0t$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8nvemd$p0t$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > > > Here's the way new Texans pronounce it... > > > > > > > > > > Tacacs = 'TIE- kax" > > > > > > > > > > RADIUS = "Ray Dee Us" > > > > > > > > > > HTH, > > > > > > > > > > Charles > > > > > > > > > > ""Victor Jia"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > > > > > 8nvea4$noh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8nvea4$noh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > > > > Can anyone tell how to pronounce the words TACACS, RADIUS? > Anywhere > > > can I > > > > > > find the pronounciation of all those abbreviations? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > -- > > Bungee jumping and skydiving are for wimps. If you want to experience > > true gut-wrenching terror, have children. --Dusty Rhoades. > > > > ___ > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Shared port bandwidth on different VLANs????
On Wed, 23 Aug 2000, Croyle, James wrote: > I don't get stuck very often in a Cisco book, but this doesn't make sense. > Page 126 of Cisco LAN Switching states: > > "Although each port of a Catalyst behaves like a port on a bridge, there is > an exception. The Catalyst family has group switch modules where ports on > the module behave like a shared hub. When devices atach to ports on this > module, they share bandwidth like a legacy network. Use this module when > you have high density requirements, and where the devices have low bandwidth > requirements, yet need connectivity to a VLAN." > > Does he mean different VLANs configured on this module share bandwidth? If > he is saying the same VLAN shares, then that is no different than any other > switch. Another note, this book is the most unclear of any (I have read > about 8) Cisco book I have come across yet. Be that as it may, please > provide any insight, especially if you have the book and can refer to the > whole section/page. what he is saying, is the Catalyst has modules, like a 8 port module for example, which behaves like a hub with an uplink to a single switch port. It is the exact same thing in fact as having a hub connected to a single switch port, except the hub is inside the switch. Since "normal" switches never had this (maybe they pioneered it), they are saying they are different in that respect. Now of days this is of course more and more common and people refer to this as "switching hubs". It would all be of the same VLAN since its the same port essentially. > > TIA, > > Jim Croyle > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- Brian Feeny, CCNA, CCDA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Logging Server on NT
www.cisco.com has one on CCO On Wed, 23 Aug 2000, Kent wrote: > Hi all, > > Anybody know where I can get a free logging server for > Windows NT to log the cisco router/switch? > > Thanks > > Kent > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! > http://mail.yahoo.com/ > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- Brian Feeny, CCNA, CCDA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pix VPN
Title: Pix VPN Hi Guys, Although the Pix is not on the R&S lab i am hoping someone can help me out. I want to set up a Pix to Pix VPN (I admit this is a real lifer - I have a client that wants a VPN between Pixs to their client). I want traffic from all hosts on site A to be encrypted when destined for specific hosts at site B and vice versa, traffic from all hosts on site B to be encrypted when destined for specific hosts on site A. I'm having a bit of a blockage though when trying to prepare for the upcoming configs. I've looked all over CCO but can't seem to find the answer I'm looking for. According to the docs, when you create tha access-list used for determing traffic to be encrypted, it is formed as thus: The source address range (or host if desired) is derived from the network attached to the inside interface of the local Pix. The destination address range (or host) is derived from the network attached to the inside interface of the remote Pix. This is the important question. What if you don't want to reveal your internal range to the remote site (assume the other end is untrusted and you are limiting their inbound traffic to one port/one host via a conduit). Can you specify the destination in your access-list as the external (statically translated) address that is configured within the Pix for that host?? Also, and this is not the case in this scenario but a spin off question, what if both sites are running the same internal ranges are non-routable and overlapping - i.e. they both are using 10.1.1.x internally (I realize there are some configuration steps for overlapping addresses within IOS NAT but can the same be applied to a Pix??). I guess I'm having problems comprehending how a packet can cross the Internet to a private nonroutable address. Or am I on the wrong track - is maybe all traffic destined for that range actually sent to the peer address which is the external address of the Pix - but then wouldn't that cause a problem if both internal ranges were the same? Hopefully someone can help out - but be warned, I'm keen to get a good grasp on this so the thread may drag out :) Reply to me personally if you like rather than to the group. Thanks Jamie
IP Telephony Specialization
Dear Group, At http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/767/spcl/iptel/req.html one of the CCNAs has to be MCSE 2000. Can anyone say how the Microsoft cert fits into IP Telephony? I might have thought for IPSec and maybe VPN but I'm not up on how Win2000 relates to IP Tel. I'm a MCSE 3.51/4.0 so I'll probably do the 2000 thing but I was hoping to forego further M$ certs and carry on with more Cisco stuff. Any ideas on why Cisco wants you to have a M$ cert?? Kevin Wigle CCDP/CCNP/CSE/MCSE/CBE/CBI <- just too many to keep.. ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
LS1010 USING TFTP
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/atm/ls1010s/wa3/11_2_8/sw_cn fg/admin.htm#xtocid201555 Oz http://www.mcseco-op.com/helpfull_links.htm ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCO use on Windows 2000?
What month are you using?? I have installed July 2000 with just a little bit of fuss. I had the same error. The software installs to the default c:\cisco First perform an uninstall of all cco software. Then delete the entire c:\cisco directory. Reboot. Re-install. That worked for me. Kevin Wigle - Original Message - From: "Neil Schneider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, 23 August, 2000 17:01 Subject: CCO use on Windows 2000? > Does anyone know if there is a way to make it work. I have installed it on > a few W2K machines and it will not run on any of them. search.exe error. > > Neil Schneider > Pinnacle Training Corporation > 200 Friberg Parkway > Suite 3013 > Westborough, MA. 01580 > 800-370-2791 Fax 508-898-2422 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > www.pinnacletraining.com > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Thanks to Group Members
I would suggest getting the exam cram for 2.0 and the exam cram flash cards for 2.0, which come with a test engine for the 2.0 exam. Both will probably cost you less than one transcender. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Dick Silva > Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 5:09 PM > To: Rangarajan Vijay; 'Ms. Maria'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Thanks to Group Members > > > BEWARE... > Trancender does not have a CCNA 2.0 exam. They are using the > same one they > used for CCNA 1.0. > > -Original Message- > From: Rangarajan Vijay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: 'Ms. Maria' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Monday, August 21, 2000 1:18 AM > Subject: RE: Thanks to Group Members > > > >Hi All, > >who's got question bank or trancender for CCNA 20. /CCNP 2.0 ? if you > >have Can I have the same for my exams r scheduled for 25th Aug .I'll be > >grateful to u all > > > > > >Warm Regards, > > > >Vijay Rangarajan > > > >Cable & Wireless Global Operations > > > >Tel:- +00 91 80 5588513(O) > > +00 91 80 6691646(R) > >Fax:-+00 91 80 5588514 > >Email :- [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > >> -Original Message- > >> From: Ms. Maria [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 9:37 PM > >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Subject: Thanks to Group Members > >> > >> Hello Group, > >> > >> I have finished CCNP. It's all because of support and encouragement I > >> got > >> from many members of Groupstudy. I am very thankful to you guys. I am > >> up to > >> CCIE Written now, and hopefully will be going after a full- time cisco > >> job, > >> after I am done with written. This world looks a lot bright to me now. > >> I > >> hope that I keep doing well with all good luck wishes I got, and > >> people like > >> me (who are sturggling hard to get a good life) get successful one > >> day. > >> > >> Thanks again! :> > >> > >> Maria > >> > >> p.s. This mail is in reference to the mail that I sent way back with > >> the > >> subject "Cisco for Women?" > >> __ > >> __ > >> Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > >> http://www.hotmail.com > >> > >> ___ > >> UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > >> FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > >> Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >___ > >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to pronounce? router
Or a kiwi , (this whole thread breaks me up just quietly...) A word of advice to you folks in the Northern Hemisphere , don't be coming down to the Antipodes and talking about "Rooters" , it may yield unexpected results!! Rgrds - Original Message - From: "ElephantChild" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Maccubbin, Duncan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 5:02 AM Subject: RE: How to pronounce? router > On Wed, 23 Aug 2000, Maccubbin, Duncan wrote: > > > I can verify this. We had a guy here last week from London. He kept talking > > about updating the roots in the rooter. Took me a minute to figure out what > > he was talking about. > > I, for one, would definitely use the US pronou^Hnciation. For one thing, > it's safer if there's an Aussie within hearing distance. :-) > > > -Original Message- > > From: Ole Drews Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 9:50 AM > > To: 'Ajaz Nawaz'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: How to pronounce? router > > > > Take a look here: > > > > http://www.dictionary.com/cgi-bin/dict.pl?term=router > > > > The funny thing is that it can be pronounced different ways. > > > > I, being from Denmark, have used the word both there and in Houston, Texas > > where I have lived for the last four years, and both places I have always > > used and heard it pronounced "rau-dor". > > > > I have never heard it pronounced "roo-ter" - not even at Hooters :-) > > > > Hth, > > > > Ole > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Ajaz Nawaz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 8:14 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: How to pronounce? router > > > > How should one pronounce - ROUTER > > > > In England most say - rooter > > > > I know in the US most say - rau ter > > > > Paul Borghese wrote: > > > > > In Boston it is: > > > > > >Tkaas > > > > > > In New York it is: > > > > > >"Who wants to know?" > > > > > > In New Jersey it is pronounced TACACS but you need to give not just your > > Username and Password but also what exit. > > > > > > In Georgia it is pronounced Tacacs but you need to add a "ya' all" to the > > end and the password is always peach. > > > > > > In San Francisco it is pronounced: > > > > > > Tacacs.com > > > > > > Paul Borghese > > > > > > ""Cthulu, CCIE Candidate"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > > 8nvemd$p0t$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8nvemd$p0t$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > > Here's the way new Texans pronounce it... > > > > > > > > Tacacs = 'TIE- kax" > > > > > > > > RADIUS = "Ray Dee Us" > > > > > > > > HTH, > > > > > > > > Charles > > > > > > > > ""Victor Jia"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > > > > 8nvea4$noh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8nvea4$noh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > > > Can anyone tell how to pronounce the words TACACS, RADIUS? Anywhere > > can I > > > > > find the pronounciation of all those abbreviations? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > -- > Bungee jumping and skydiving are for wimps. If you want to experience > true gut-wrenching terror, have children. --Dusty Rhoades. > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Router for play @ home
OC12? I'm waiting on the OC192VSR interfaces to stick in my GSR's! Till then I'll have to settle with my OC48's:) -Mike -Original Message- From: ZAPP, JULIAN F (PB) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 2:08 PM To: 'Ledwidge, Feargal'; 'Mike Sholar'; Group Study Subject: RE: Router for play @ home 7513 are nice, but I have more fun with my 12000 GSR's. I would rather have OC12, but the OC3 connections are fast enough. -Original Message- From: Ledwidge, Feargal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 12:23 PM To: 'Mike Sholar'; Group Study Subject: RE: Router for play @ home I think you 'll find that a couple of 7513's will make for a pretty good home lab ... ;-) Feargal -Original Message- From: Mike Sholar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 5:29 AM To: Group Study Subject: Router for play @ home Hello people! Not exactly a cert question, but it applies. I will soon be getting cable intenet access at the house, and would like to purchase a cisco router to play with behind the cable modem. What series router should I be looking at, just to learn the ios and play around with. I am working on my CCNA, and realize a physical router is not necessary, but I will be progressing upwards and would like the experience. I looked at the 924 cable modem/router cisco sells, and the $899 price tag was a little much for play-time! Thanks for the input. Mike MCSE, MCP+I ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Thanks to Group Members
BEWARE... Trancender does not have a CCNA 2.0 exam. They are using the same one they used for CCNA 1.0. -Original Message- From: Rangarajan Vijay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 'Ms. Maria' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Monday, August 21, 2000 1:18 AM Subject: RE: Thanks to Group Members >Hi All, >who's got question bank or trancender for CCNA 20. /CCNP 2.0 ? if you >have Can I have the same for my exams r scheduled for 25th Aug .I'll be >grateful to u all > > >Warm Regards, > >Vijay Rangarajan > >Cable & Wireless Global Operations > >Tel:- +00 91 80 5588513(O) > +00 91 80 6691646(R) >Fax:-+00 91 80 5588514 >Email :- [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> -Original Message- >> From: Ms. Maria [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 9:37 PM >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: Thanks to Group Members >> >> Hello Group, >> >> I have finished CCNP. It's all because of support and encouragement I >> got >> from many members of Groupstudy. I am very thankful to you guys. I am >> up to >> CCIE Written now, and hopefully will be going after a full- time cisco >> job, >> after I am done with written. This world looks a lot bright to me now. >> I >> hope that I keep doing well with all good luck wishes I got, and >> people like >> me (who are sturggling hard to get a good life) get successful one >> day. >> >> Thanks again! :> >> >> Maria >> >> p.s. This mail is in reference to the mail that I sent way back with >> the >> subject "Cisco for Women?" >> __ >> __ >> Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >> http://www.hotmail.com >> >> ___ >> UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >> FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >> Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >___ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: $13,300 for 5 months
Waste of money, a person that has 13K to spend on training would be wise to invest in books and equipment rather than those book camp style no experience necessary classes. IMHO. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Croyle, James > Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 3:06 PM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: RE: $13,300 for 5 months > > > This is going to evoke some flames, especially if The Chubb Institute is > reading this... So send them privately as to not waste bandwidth. > I went to > The Chubb Institute last year from February to June, and during > that period, > got my MSCE, CNA, A+, and did the CCNA on my own. Out of the 15 in my > class, 6 of us got the whole MSCE, and no one got all the certs I did. I > gave the instructor the notes that I had gathered from my reading > and taking > the test. Unless The Chubb Institute has changed their > curriculum, there is > no CCNA course there. I would have him verify that the person he talked > with knows the difference between CCNA, and CNA. In addition, if I had it > over, I would have taken my 10K and bought 3 computers, NT Server, NT > Workstation, Win 95, and a router and switch or two (low end) and done it > all myself. Hindsight is 20/20 they say. If he is a self > starter, and not > afraid to talk to/ask others when he is stuck, he will get an immesurable > amount of better experience from building it himself and doing > the learning. > I have not recommended anyone of my collegues to attend Chubb > either full or > part time, that should say something. > > IMVHO, > > Jim Croyle > > -Original Message- > From: Marshal Schoener [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 3:33 PM > To: 'Rah Sta'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: $13,300 for 5 months > > > In my opinion, 5 months is enough time to pass those 5 tests!!! > But, that's just my opinion :-) > I know some people that went to CHUBBS, and liked it. > -Marshal > > -Original Message- > From: Rah Sta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 12:09 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: $13,300 for 5 months > > > To all, > > I have a friend who wants to get into networking. He plans on taking a 5 > month networking course at CHUBBS. I told him he's crazy. He said > that they > will give him the skills he need to PASS 4 Microsoft exam(MCSE) > and CCNA. I > told him that impossible, especially for $13,500. He lives in the New > York/New Jersey area. I know there are better courses out there. Does any > one have any suggestion? He has $13,500 to spend. > > >Raheem > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Shared port bandwidth on different VLANs????
I think he simply means that because the module acts like a HUB, all packets are broadcasted out to all ports of the module (except for the port they came from) and thus are sharing the same network and therefore decreases the bandwidth if there's a lot of traffic. Ole Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Croyle, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 4:21 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Shared port bandwidth on different VLANs I don't get stuck very often in a Cisco book, but this doesn't make sense. Page 126 of Cisco LAN Switching states: "Although each port of a Catalyst behaves like a port on a bridge, there is an exception. The Catalyst family has group switch modules where ports on the module behave like a shared hub. When devices atach to ports on this module, they share bandwidth like a legacy network. Use this module when you have high density requirements, and where the devices have low bandwidth requirements, yet need connectivity to a VLAN." Does he mean different VLANs configured on this module share bandwidth? If he is saying the same VLAN shares, then that is no different than any other switch. Another note, this book is the most unclear of any (I have read about 8) Cisco book I have come across yet. Be that as it may, please provide any insight, especially if you have the book and can refer to the whole section/page. TIA, Jim Croyle ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Logging Server on NT
Try ftp://ftp.3com.com/pub/utilbin/win32/3cdv2r10.zip This also includes a tftp server (my personal favorite) and client and an ftp server. Chris Kent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 08/23/2000 04:19:32 PM Please respond to Kent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bcc: Chris A Korent/USA/Pillsbury) Subject: Logging Server on NT Hi all, Anybody know where I can get a free logging server for Windows NT to log the cisco router/switch? Thanks Kent __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ___ To unsubscribe from the CCIELAB list, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body containing: unsubscribe ccielab __ The information contained in this message is private and confidential information which may also be subject to the attorney-client privilege and work product doctrine. This information is intended only for the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender by return e-mail and destroy all copies of the message. Thank you. ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Job Description
THEY might - but I don't. ;^) Kris "Montgomery, Robert WARCOM Contractor" wrote: > > And THEY wonder why we are smart*sses? > > -Original Message- > From: Kris Jacobs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 10:45 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: OT: Job Description > > Found this amusing description during an online job search and > wanted to share some levity. For those who are asleep, pay > special attention to the last sentence. ;-) > > === > Job Description: > > The position is more than a Cisco Associate. We > are looking for someone who has done router > configurations for large companies. In addition > to having a CCNA, you must have a CCIE. > === > > Kris Jacobs | mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Proud Member: http://www.wob-l.org > Hostaged by: http://www.mad-techies.org > E-tours are available. > > Judge your success by what you had to give up in order to get it. ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Router for play @ home
I made the mistake of getting a 924 before checking with my cable company. Do that first to a) make sure your equipment will actually work with their network (they're going to have to reprovision your circuit anyway, so you may as well call them first), and b) make sure they allow you to have your own equipment on their circuit. I found out, to my dismay, that I am in a lease-only area right now, i.e. I hafta use their crappy Motorola modem. =( - Don -Original Message- From: Mike Sholar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 5:29 AM To: Group Study Subject: Router for play @ home Hello people! Not exactly a cert question, but it applies. I will soon be getting cable intenet access at the house, and would like to purchase a cisco router to play with behind the cable modem. What series router should I be looking at, just to learn the ios and play around with. I am working on my CCNA, and realize a physical router is not necessary, but I will be progressing upwards and would like the experience. I looked at the 924 cable modem/router cisco sells, and the $899 price tag was a little much for play-time! Thanks for the input. Mike MCSE, MCP+I ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] * The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. When addressed to our clients any opinions or advice contained in this email are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in the governing KPMG client engagement letter. * ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Logging Server on NT
We use SL4NT, works great and took about five minutes to install. See: http://www.netal.com/ irwin > -Original Message- > From: Kent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 5:20 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Logging Server on NT > > > Hi all, > > Anybody know where I can get a free logging server for > Windows NT to log the cisco router/switch? > > Thanks > > Kent > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! > http://mail.yahoo.com/ > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SNA & CISCO Certification
Yup. Took'em, passed'em. Relied upon George Sackett's Internetworking SNA book and the documentation CD as well as some AS/400 network administration that I did at a previous employer. Not incredibly tough exams, and where objectives are available they are fairly accurate. Consider using the blueprint for the CCIE SNA/IP as your guide and you will be more than prepared if you know that material. Niall Sultan of Ebla wrote: > Hello, > > Has anyone in this newsgroup went as far as getting CISCO and SNA > certification such as? > > - SNA Foundation SNAIPF EXAM 640-456 > - SNA Configuration fir Multiprotocol Administrators SNAM 12.0 EXAM 640-445 > - SNA to IP Migration SNAMI Exam 640-457 > > Please share with me your UNIQUE experience, hurdles ... > > Thank you. > > Ayman > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Some of my best information on tuning EIGRP came from colleagues, both native and US military, in the former Yugoslavia. They pointed out how to tune around error rates caused by gunfire hitting the telephone lines. - Howard Berkowitz on Groupstudy 3/13/2000 ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FRAME RELAY PROBLEM
I have got a problem with FR Config Running OSPF. Router A & B are connected to C & D over FR PVC but they don't have to talk to each ther. It means A connected to C & D and B is also connected to C & D. I am using FR Subinterfaces with pt-to-pt. What is happening that sometime I am able to ping to router C & router D subinterfaces from router A but sometimes i don't get any response. I am even unable to ping sub-intf of Routers from within the routers. See sample config of one of the routers that i have: interface Serial0 no ip address ip directed-broadcast encapsulation frame-relay ip ospf network broadcast no ip mroute-cache ! interface Serial0.1 point-to-point ip address 131.18.19.185 255.255.255.252 ip directed-broadcast ip ospf network broadcast frame-relay interface-dlci 310 ! interface Serial0.2 point-to-point ip address 131.18.19.189 255.255.255.252 ip directed-broadcast ip ospf network broadcast frame-relay interface-dlci 210 This is config of router B connected to C & D and subintf of C &D are on same subnet as subintf 0.1 and 0.2 on this router. Is pt-to-pt with sub-intf OK for this scenario? Any suggestions... What is the possible cause of problem?? Why I am even unable to ping local subintface from within the router?? Thanks.. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: UPLOADING CONFIGURATION TO REMOTE ROUTER USING TFTP
I got a scenario that kinda fits into similar area.
I got a brand new LS1010 out of the box with ASP, CAM/PAM modules with no
memory cards. I took a 16 Mb flash card from 7513 & erased everything on it.
Connected laptop with tftp server from Wierd solutions to ethernet port of
the ASP module with crossover cable. When i power on the LS1010 it comes up
in ROMMON mode. My question is how can i get the ios image from tftp server
to flash card and boot the ASP.
Although i can dnload the ios image using a production 7513 on flash card
but i think what i have should be sufficient to the get LS1010 working.
Appreciate any ideas.
> -Original Message-
> From: Ole Drews Jensen [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 10:15 AM
> To: 'Minh Vu'; emirates; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: UPLOADING CONFIGURATION TO REMOTE ROUTER USING TFTP
>
> If you can telnet into the router, you can simply use the "copy tftp
> startup-config" command.
>
> You might want to save the current config ("copy startup-config tftp" or
> "copy running-config tftp") before you overwrite it in case it doesn't
> work
> out the way you planned.
>
> Hth,
>
> Ole
>
>
> Ole Drews Jensen
> Systems Network Manager
> CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
> RWR Enterprises, Inc.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Minh Vu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 9:48 AM
> To: emirates; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: UPLOADING CONFIGURATION TO REMOTE ROUTER USING TFTP
>
>
> You can use ConfigMaker (download from Cisco site). The latest of CM is
> able to upload/download config file while router online. You can enter
> router ip address and CM will go grap config file and display it for you.
> Also you able to upload the file after you modified.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "emirates" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 5:02 AM
> Subject: UPLOADING CONFIGURATION TO REMOTE ROUTER USING TFTP
>
>
> > Hi Group,
> >
> > It is possible to upload a configuration to the remote router using
> TFTP.
> I
> > have a configuration image with me but i dont know how to copy it to the
> > remote router connected through 128K leased. keep in mind that i am able
> to
> > ping this router but at the same time i dont want to configure it again
> from
> > the biggining.
> >
> > Any comments will hightly appreciated.
> >
> > Rgrds.
> > AA
> >
> >
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Shared port bandwidth on different VLANs????
I don't get stuck very often in a Cisco book, but this doesn't make sense. Page 126 of Cisco LAN Switching states: "Although each port of a Catalyst behaves like a port on a bridge, there is an exception. The Catalyst family has group switch modules where ports on the module behave like a shared hub. When devices atach to ports on this module, they share bandwidth like a legacy network. Use this module when you have high density requirements, and where the devices have low bandwidth requirements, yet need connectivity to a VLAN." Does he mean different VLANs configured on this module share bandwidth? If he is saying the same VLAN shares, then that is no different than any other switch. Another note, this book is the most unclear of any (I have read about 8) Cisco book I have come across yet. Be that as it may, please provide any insight, especially if you have the book and can refer to the whole section/page. TIA, Jim Croyle ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Logging Server on NT
Hi all, Anybody know where I can get a free logging server for Windows NT to log the cisco router/switch? Thanks Kent __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: $13,300 for 5 months
Everything I have done, has been self study and I always pass my tests, not with flying colors, but I do it. I wouldn't mind classroom training simply because of time restraints. I have a family and between work and home, I get very little time to study. It typically takes me a month to a month and a half to study enough to pass a test. And that's staying up late every night with my wife going to bed without me. My $.02 Dave -Original Message- From: Dale Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 4:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: $13,300 for 5 months NO training is worth the money. NONE. Period. BUT - many people cannot do it on thier own - they need training, and so they must pay the price. In any given class, you have a collection of people who cannot do it alone (and one or two who probably could have if they had the confidence). Out of those, there are several who not only cannot do it alone, they simply cannot do it. And they won't do it. AND they will blame it on the training center. No doubt about it. Some training centers are excellent and others are, well... not excellent. The same can be said of the students. I never recommend training to people, only self study. But if you lack the confidence to do it on your own, training might be the answer. It is a crapshoot... some win, many lose. One thing is certain though, if they do nothing then they will certainly get nothing in return. My 2 cents... Dale [=`) >From: "Croyle, James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "Croyle, James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: $13,300 for 5 months >Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 16:06:12 -0400 > >This is going to evoke some flames, especially if The Chubb Institute is >reading this... So send them privately as to not waste bandwidth. I went >to >The Chubb Institute last year from February to June, and during that >period, >got my MSCE, CNA, A+, and did the CCNA on my own. Out of the 15 in my >class, 6 of us got the whole MSCE, and no one got all the certs I did. I >gave the instructor the notes that I had gathered from my reading and >taking >the test. Unless The Chubb Institute has changed their curriculum, there >is >no CCNA course there. I would have him verify that the person he talked >with knows the difference between CCNA, and CNA. In addition, if I had it >over, I would have taken my 10K and bought 3 computers, NT Server, NT >Workstation, Win 95, and a router and switch or two (low end) and done it >all myself. Hindsight is 20/20 they say. If he is a self starter, and not >afraid to talk to/ask others when he is stuck, he will get an immesurable >amount of better experience from building it himself and doing the >learning. >I have not recommended anyone of my collegues to attend Chubb either full >or >part time, that should say something. > >IMVHO, > >Jim Croyle > >-Original Message- >From: Marshal Schoener [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 3:33 PM >To: 'Rah Sta'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: $13,300 for 5 months > > >In my opinion, 5 months is enough time to pass those 5 tests!!! >But, that's just my opinion :-) >I know some people that went to CHUBBS, and liked it. > -Marshal > >-Original Message- >From: Rah Sta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 12:09 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: $13,300 for 5 months > > >To all, > >I have a friend who wants to get into networking. He plans on taking a 5 >month networking course at CHUBBS. I told him he's crazy. He said that they >will give him the skills he need to PASS 4 Microsoft exam(MCSE) and CCNA. I >told him that impossible, especially for $13,500. He lives in the New >York/New Jersey area. I know there are better courses out there. Does any >one have any suggestion? He has $13,500 to spend. > > >Raheem > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > >___ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >___ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >___ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail
RE: Router for play @ home
7513 are nice, but I have more fun with my 12000 GSR's. I would rather have OC12, but the OC3 connections are fast enough. -Original Message- From: Ledwidge, Feargal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 12:23 PM To: 'Mike Sholar'; Group Study Subject: RE: Router for play @ home I think you 'll find that a couple of 7513's will make for a pretty good home lab ... ;-) Feargal -Original Message- From: Mike Sholar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 5:29 AM To: Group Study Subject: Router for play @ home Hello people! Not exactly a cert question, but it applies. I will soon be getting cable intenet access at the house, and would like to purchase a cisco router to play with behind the cable modem. What series router should I be looking at, just to learn the ios and play around with. I am working on my CCNA, and realize a physical router is not necessary, but I will be progressing upwards and would like the experience. I looked at the 924 cable modem/router cisco sells, and the $899 price tag was a little much for play-time! Thanks for the input. Mike MCSE, MCP+I ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Reverse telnet definition
When you are on a terminal (pc) telnetted to a router the Terminal is sending out the the info and recieving the replies fron the async side of the terminal async is between the user and the term server pC >async>terminal server> LAN > router Where as when using revese telnet aka Cisco the info is sent to the async side after the terninal server async is now between the term server and the router the other side of the network so I GUESS this is why they say reverse PC >LAN>terminal server > Async> router Does this make sense ??? Oz http://www.mcseco-op.com/helpfull_links.htm ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCO use on Windows 2000?
Does anyone know if there is a way to make it work. I have installed it on a few W2K machines and it will not run on any of them. search.exe error. Neil Schneider Pinnacle Training Corporation 200 Friberg Parkway Suite 3013 Westborough, MA. 01580 800-370-2791 Fax 508-898-2422 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.pinnacletraining.com ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: $13,300 for 5 months
Just a note: The MCSE is focused on system administration in a lan/wan environment. BUT note that one of the four core exams (I am refering to the MCSE 4.0 track) is Networking Essentials, and one of the two electives that many takes (including me) is TCP/IP. That means that many MCSE's education is about 66.666% system administration and 33.333% networking. When I studied for CCNA 2.0 I realized how much material I was reading for the second time, since much of it is included in Networking Essentials and MS TCP/IP. If I had known that a couple of years ago, I would have studied for CCNA right after my TCP/IP, but then I would have had the CCNA 1.0 instead of the CCNA 2.0 now. Ole ~~ Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~ -Original Message- From: Marshal Schoener [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 3:36 PM To: 'Albert Ip'; 'Rah Sta'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: $13,300 for 5 months There is a very fine line between what you call networking and system administration. In today's day and age, it is very good and very important to know an OS well, as well as Cisco IOS skills. In my opinion, knowing NT or 2000 server well is very much an important part of networking :-) -Marshal -Original Message- From: Albert Ip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 1:02 PM To: 'Rah Sta'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: $13,300 for 5 months Does your friend needs to go to school? Does he has the ability to learn on his own? I would spend $3500 on equipment. Study by himself, than go to the training if he needs it for that course. Remember another thing, MCSE is not networking. It is system administration. Albert -Original Message- From: Rah Sta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 12:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: $13,300 for 5 months To all, I have a friend who wants to get into networking. He plans on taking a 5 month networking course at CHUBBS. I told him he's crazy. He said that they will give him the skills he need to PASS 4 Microsoft exam(MCSE) and CCNA. I told him that impossible, especially for $13,500. He lives in the New York/New Jersey area. I know there are better courses out there. Does any one have any suggestion? He has $13,500 to spend. Raheem Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: UPLOADING CONFIGURATION TO REMOTE ROUTER USING TFTP
Yes, you should be able to. You can do it from either end, You can pull the image from the remote site as long you're routing both networks, and download/upload from your tftp server. commands: For running config image router#copy tftp runing Host or network configuration file [host]? network Address of remote host [0.0.0.0 TFTPserver]? Name of configuration file [network-confg]? Imagefilename for startup config image router#copy tftp startup Host or network configuration file [host]? network Address of remote host [0.0.0.0 TFTPserver]? Name of configuration file [network-confg]? Imagefilename Hope this helps --Original Message-- From: emirates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: August 23, 2000 12:02:21 PM GMT Subject: UPLOADING CONFIGURATION TO REMOTE ROUTER USING TFTP Hi Group, It is possible to upload a configuration to the remote router using TFTP. I have a configuration image with me but i dont know how to copy it to the remote router connected through 128K leased. keep in mind that i am able to ping this router but at the same time i dont want to configure it again from the biggining. Any comments will hightly appreciated. Rgrds. AA ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jorge Rodriguez /CCNA Network Analyst R&S Networks Inc 1112 Boylston Street Suite 222 Boston, MA 02115 1-781-614-1294 1-617-989-8634 Evenings http://www.netwire.n3.net/ http://www.learncisco.n3.net/ . voted #1 search engine! http://www.iwon.com why wouldn't you? . ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: $13,300 for 5 months
Have your friend go to MetroWide Learning Center in Newark, NJ. They have great LAN/WAN course, and a CCIE that teaches the Cisco router courses, which have hands on labs, and unlimited lab use even after you finish with the class. They are adding VoIP, Security, and other stuff. All that for half of what he is going to spend at Chubbs. EF -Original Message- From: Marshal Schoener [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 4:36 PM To: 'Albert Ip'; 'Rah Sta'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: $13,300 for 5 months There is a very fine line between what you call networking and system administration. In today's day and age, it is very good and very important to know an OS well, as well as Cisco IOS skills. In my opinion, knowing NT or 2000 server well is very much an important part of networking :-) -Marshal -Original Message- From: Albert Ip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 1:02 PM To: 'Rah Sta'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: $13,300 for 5 months Does your friend needs to go to school? Does he has the ability to learn on his own? I would spend $3500 on equipment. Study by himself, than go to the training if he needs it for that course. Remember another thing, MCSE is not networking. It is system administration. Albert -Original Message- From: Rah Sta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 12:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: $13,300 for 5 months To all, I have a friend who wants to get into networking. He plans on taking a 5 month networking course at CHUBBS. I told him he's crazy. He said that they will give him the skills he need to PASS 4 Microsoft exam(MCSE) and CCNA. I told him that impossible, especially for $13,500. He lives in the New York/New Jersey area. I know there are better courses out there. Does any one have any suggestion? He has $13,500 to spend. Raheem Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: $13,300 for 5 months
I can't refute any of these points. :-) Well spoken. Jim -Original Message- From: Dale Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 4:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: $13,300 for 5 months NO training is worth the money. NONE. Period. BUT - many people cannot do it on thier own - they need training, and so they must pay the price. In any given class, you have a collection of people who cannot do it alone (and one or two who probably could have if they had the confidence). Out of those, there are several who not only cannot do it alone, they simply cannot do it. And they won't do it. AND they will blame it on the training center. No doubt about it. Some training centers are excellent and others are, well... not excellent. The same can be said of the students. I never recommend training to people, only self study. But if you lack the confidence to do it on your own, training might be the answer. It is a crapshoot... some win, many lose. One thing is certain though, if they do nothing then they will certainly get nothing in return. My 2 cents... Dale [=`) >From: "Croyle, James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "Croyle, James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: $13,300 for 5 months >Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 16:06:12 -0400 > >This is going to evoke some flames, especially if The Chubb Institute is >reading this... So send them privately as to not waste bandwidth. I went >to >The Chubb Institute last year from February to June, and during that >period, >got my MSCE, CNA, A+, and did the CCNA on my own. Out of the 15 in my >class, 6 of us got the whole MSCE, and no one got all the certs I did. I >gave the instructor the notes that I had gathered from my reading and >taking >the test. Unless The Chubb Institute has changed their curriculum, there >is >no CCNA course there. I would have him verify that the person he talked >with knows the difference between CCNA, and CNA. In addition, if I had it >over, I would have taken my 10K and bought 3 computers, NT Server, NT >Workstation, Win 95, and a router and switch or two (low end) and done it >all myself. Hindsight is 20/20 they say. If he is a self starter, and not >afraid to talk to/ask others when he is stuck, he will get an immesurable >amount of better experience from building it himself and doing the >learning. >I have not recommended anyone of my collegues to attend Chubb either full >or >part time, that should say something. > >IMVHO, > >Jim Croyle > >-Original Message- >From: Marshal Schoener [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 3:33 PM >To: 'Rah Sta'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: $13,300 for 5 months > > >In my opinion, 5 months is enough time to pass those 5 tests!!! >But, that's just my opinion :-) >I know some people that went to CHUBBS, and liked it. > -Marshal > >-Original Message- >From: Rah Sta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 12:09 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: $13,300 for 5 months > > >To all, > >I have a friend who wants to get into networking. He plans on taking a 5 >month networking course at CHUBBS. I told him he's crazy. He said that they >will give him the skills he need to PASS 4 Microsoft exam(MCSE) and CCNA. I >told him that impossible, especially for $13,500. He lives in the New >York/New Jersey area. I know there are better courses out there. Does any >one have any suggestion? He has $13,500 to spend. > > >Raheem > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > >___ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >___ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >___ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Re: Cisco Career Certification T-Shirt Received
I'm obsessed with the jacket myself. I've heard once you pass the CCIE Lab you have the privilege to buy the jacket for something like $180. I'm budgeting for mine next year (hopeful, aren't I). :-) - Dennis -Original Message- From: Frank Z [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 1:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: Cisco Career Certification T-Shirt Received Last I heard, Cisco had ran out of them. The only ones left were the CCDA shirts, and they may be gone by now. I really wanted my NP/DP shirts, but alas, I have none. What I really want is the CCIE leather jacket, which Cisco should continue to sell on their website to CCIEs. I'll be rather miffed if I cannot buy one one day. ;) Frank Zahrt, NP/DP --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Where'd y'all get these shirts from? I've got two > Cisco certs and don't have a single Cisco shirt in > my wardrobe... > > Thanks, > > Bradley Wilson > CCNA, CCDA, CCSE, MCT, CTT > > > Dale Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Really??? Not mine... My CCNA Cisco Career > Certification T-Shirt has a > really big CCNA logo and Cisco Career Certifications > box in the front that > takes up about the whole front of the shirt. On the > back, right between the > shoulders, is a fist clutching a diploma or > something like that. It's a > pretty cool shirt... > > Dale > [=`) > > >From: Brian > >Reply-To: Brian > >To: wind > >CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: Cisco Career Certification T-Shirt > Received > >Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 13:24:35 -0500 (CDT) > > > > > >I got one of those before too. I don't think they > always send you one for > >every cert...maybe just when they have them > in stock? > > > >Anyways, its about the lamest Cisco tshirt I have > ever seen :)) The whole > >thing is white, all over, with a small cisco > logo/statment over the left > >chest. > > > >On Thu, 24 Aug 2000, wind wrote: > > > > > Hi; > > > > > > I had received Cisco Career > Certification T-shirt today. > > > > > > Cheers > > > Vincent > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com > > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > >--- > >Brian Feeny, CCNA, CCDA [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Network Administrator > >ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) > > > >___ > >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com > >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > http://www.hotmail.com > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Would like to buy 2 routers.
I live in NZ. What kind of prices would I be looking at. Also what is the cost of hiring two while I study for 6 months. James Macnee ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: $13,300 for 5 months
Agreed, IMHO the role of a network administrator in coming years is going to be primarily to manage application performance across the network. This will require a solid understanding of the servers and services that support those applications. irwin > -Original Message- > From: Marshal Schoener [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 4:36 PM > To: 'Albert Ip'; 'Rah Sta'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: $13,300 for 5 months > > > There is a very fine line between what you call networking and system > administration. > In today's day and age, it is very good and very important to > know an OS > well, as well > as Cisco IOS skills. > In my opinion, knowing NT or 2000 server well is very much an > important part > of networking :-) >-Marshal > > > -Original Message- > From: Albert Ip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 1:02 PM > To: 'Rah Sta'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: $13,300 for 5 months > > > Does your friend needs to go to school? Does he has the > ability to learn on > his own? > I would spend $3500 on equipment. Study by himself, than go > to the training > if he needs it for that course. > Remember another thing, MCSE is not networking. It is system > administration. > > > Albert > > -Original Message- > From: Rah Sta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 12:09 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: $13,300 for 5 months > > > To all, > > I have a friend who wants to get into networking. He plans on > taking a 5 > month networking course at CHUBBS. I told him he's crazy. He > said that they > will give him the skills he need to PASS 4 Microsoft > exam(MCSE) and CCNA. I > told him that impossible, especially for $13,500. He lives in the New > York/New Jersey area. I know there are better courses out > there. Does any > one have any suggestion? He has $13,500 to spend. > > >Raheem > __ > __ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: $13,300 for 5 months
NO training is worth the money. NONE. Period. BUT - many people cannot do it on thier own - they need training, and so they must pay the price. In any given class, you have a collection of people who cannot do it alone (and one or two who probably could have if they had the confidence). Out of those, there are several who not only cannot do it alone, they simply cannot do it. And they won't do it. AND they will blame it on the training center. No doubt about it. Some training centers are excellent and others are, well... not excellent. The same can be said of the students. I never recommend training to people, only self study. But if you lack the confidence to do it on your own, training might be the answer. It is a crapshoot... some win, many lose. One thing is certain though, if they do nothing then they will certainly get nothing in return. My 2 cents... Dale [=`) >From: "Croyle, James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "Croyle, James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: $13,300 for 5 months >Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 16:06:12 -0400 > >This is going to evoke some flames, especially if The Chubb Institute is >reading this... So send them privately as to not waste bandwidth. I went >to >The Chubb Institute last year from February to June, and during that >period, >got my MSCE, CNA, A+, and did the CCNA on my own. Out of the 15 in my >class, 6 of us got the whole MSCE, and no one got all the certs I did. I >gave the instructor the notes that I had gathered from my reading and >taking >the test. Unless The Chubb Institute has changed their curriculum, there >is >no CCNA course there. I would have him verify that the person he talked >with knows the difference between CCNA, and CNA. In addition, if I had it >over, I would have taken my 10K and bought 3 computers, NT Server, NT >Workstation, Win 95, and a router and switch or two (low end) and done it >all myself. Hindsight is 20/20 they say. If he is a self starter, and not >afraid to talk to/ask others when he is stuck, he will get an immesurable >amount of better experience from building it himself and doing the >learning. >I have not recommended anyone of my collegues to attend Chubb either full >or >part time, that should say something. > >IMVHO, > >Jim Croyle > >-Original Message- >From: Marshal Schoener [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 3:33 PM >To: 'Rah Sta'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: $13,300 for 5 months > > >In my opinion, 5 months is enough time to pass those 5 tests!!! >But, that's just my opinion :-) >I know some people that went to CHUBBS, and liked it. > -Marshal > >-Original Message- >From: Rah Sta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 12:09 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: $13,300 for 5 months > > >To all, > >I have a friend who wants to get into networking. He plans on taking a 5 >month networking course at CHUBBS. I told him he's crazy. He said that they >will give him the skills he need to PASS 4 Microsoft exam(MCSE) and CCNA. I >told him that impossible, especially for $13,500. He lives in the New >York/New Jersey area. I know there are better courses out there. Does any >one have any suggestion? He has $13,500 to spend. > > >Raheem > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > >___ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >___ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >___ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: $13,300 for 5 months
There is a very fine line between what you call networking and system administration. In today's day and age, it is very good and very important to know an OS well, as well as Cisco IOS skills. In my opinion, knowing NT or 2000 server well is very much an important part of networking :-) -Marshal -Original Message- From: Albert Ip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 1:02 PM To: 'Rah Sta'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: $13,300 for 5 months Does your friend needs to go to school? Does he has the ability to learn on his own? I would spend $3500 on equipment. Study by himself, than go to the training if he needs it for that course. Remember another thing, MCSE is not networking. It is system administration. Albert -Original Message- From: Rah Sta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 12:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: $13,300 for 5 months To all, I have a friend who wants to get into networking. He plans on taking a 5 month networking course at CHUBBS. I told him he's crazy. He said that they will give him the skills he need to PASS 4 Microsoft exam(MCSE) and CCNA. I told him that impossible, especially for $13,500. He lives in the New York/New Jersey area. I know there are better courses out there. Does any one have any suggestion? He has $13,500 to spend. Raheem Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: Cisco Career Certification T-Shirt Received
Last I heard, Cisco had ran out of them. The only ones left were the CCDA shirts, and they may be gone by now. I really wanted my NP/DP shirts, but alas, I have none. What I really want is the CCIE leather jacket, which Cisco should continue to sell on their website to CCIEs. I'll be rather miffed if I cannot buy one one day. ;) Frank Zahrt, NP/DP --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Where'd y'all get these shirts from? I've got two > Cisco certs and don't have a single Cisco shirt in > my wardrobe... > > Thanks, > > Bradley Wilson > CCNA, CCDA, CCSE, MCT, CTT > > > Dale Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Really??? Not mine... My CCNA Cisco Career > Certification T-Shirt has a > really big CCNA logo and Cisco Career Certifications > box in the front that > takes up about the whole front of the shirt. On the > back, right between the > shoulders, is a fist clutching a diploma or > something like that. It's a > pretty cool shirt... > > Dale > [=`) > > >From: Brian > >Reply-To: Brian > >To: wind > >CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: Cisco Career Certification T-Shirt > Received > >Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 13:24:35 -0500 (CDT) > > > > > >I got one of those before too. I don't think they > always send you one for > >every cert...maybe just when they have them > in stock? > > > >Anyways, its about the lamest Cisco tshirt I have > ever seen :)) The whole > >thing is white, all over, with a small cisco > logo/statment over the left > >chest. > > > >On Thu, 24 Aug 2000, wind wrote: > > > > > Hi; > > > > > > I had received Cisco Career > Certification T-shirt today. > > > > > > Cheers > > > Vincent > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com > > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > >--- > >Brian Feeny, CCNA, CCDA [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Network Administrator > >ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) > > > >___ > >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com > >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > http://www.hotmail.com > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Server Configuration Error.
Amen! Tom Lisa, Instructor, CCNA, CCAI Community College of Southern Nevada Cisco Regional Networking Academy "Cthulu, CCIE Candidate" wrote: > Paul, > > We'll overlook it this time...just because you devote your time, money, and > resources to giving us a place to come together and share information > doesn't mean you can continue to make improvements that benefit us all! > > Seriously, I appreciate what you do you have helped create a great > resource!Many many thanks! > > Thank you! > > Charles > > ""Paul Borghese"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > 8nvfiu$tc9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8nvfiu$tc9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Hey Everyone, > > > > I made a slight configuration error when I rebuilt the new server and the > postings from the Newsfeed were not being redistributed to > > the mailing list. This has now been solved. > > > > Sorry, > > > > Paul > > > > > > ___ > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cisco Career Certification T-Shirt Received
I must be thinking of the survey shirt.. On Wed, 23 Aug 2000, Dale Holmes wrote: > Really??? Not mine... My CCNA Cisco Career Certification T-Shirt has a > really big CCNA logo and Cisco Career Certifications box in the front that > takes up about the whole front of the shirt. On the back, right between the > shoulders, is a fist clutching a diploma or something like that. It's a > pretty cool shirt... > > Dale > [=`) > > >From: Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: wind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: Cisco Career Certification T-Shirt Received > >Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 13:24:35 -0500 (CDT) > > > > > >I got one of those before too. I don't think they always send you one for > >every cert...maybe just when they have them in stock? > > > >Anyways, its about the lamest Cisco tshirt I have ever seen :)) The whole > >thing is white, all over, with a small cisco logo/statment over the left > >chest. > > > >On Thu, 24 Aug 2000, wind wrote: > > > > > Hi; > > > > > > I had received Cisco Career Certification T-shirt today. > > > > > > Cheers > > > Vincent > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > >--- > >Brian Feeny, CCNA, CCDA [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Network Administrator > >ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) > > > >___ > >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > --- Brian Feeny, CCNA, CCDA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Networkers Acapulco
Anyone else contemplating attending the Networkers Acapulco 2000? I missed the two that were held in the US because our CCIE's went to those events and someone had to be left "watching the store". I figure this crowd will be smaller and maybe the conference will actually be better because of the smaller crowds. Any one? Any one? Bueller? - RD ___ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FRAME RELAY/ OSPF PROBLEM
I have got a problem with FR Config Running OSPF. Router A & B are connected to C & D over FR PVC but they don't have to talk to each other. It means A connected to C & D and B is also connected to C & D. I am using FR Subinterfaces with pt-to-pt. What is happening that sometime I am able to ping to router C & router D subinterfaces from router A but sometimes i don't get any response. I am even unable to ping sub-intf of Routers from within the routers. See sample config of one of the routers that i have: interface Serial0 no ip address ip directed-broadcast encapsulation frame-relay ip ospf network broadcast no ip mroute-cache ! interface Serial0.1 point-to-point ip address 131.18.19.185 255.255.255.252 ip directed-broadcast ip ospf network broadcast frame-relay interface-dlci 310 ! interface Serial0.2 point-to-point ip address 131.18.19.189 255.255.255.252 ip directed-broadcast ip ospf network broadcast frame-relay interface-dlci 210 This is config of router B connected to C & D and subintf of C &D are on same subnet as subintf 0.1 and 0.2 on this router. Is pt-to-pt with sub-intf OK for this scenario? Any suggestions... What is the possible cause of problem?? Why I am even unable to ping local subintface from within the router?? Thanks.. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: $13,300 for 5 months
This is going to evoke some flames, especially if The Chubb Institute is reading this... So send them privately as to not waste bandwidth. I went to The Chubb Institute last year from February to June, and during that period, got my MSCE, CNA, A+, and did the CCNA on my own. Out of the 15 in my class, 6 of us got the whole MSCE, and no one got all the certs I did. I gave the instructor the notes that I had gathered from my reading and taking the test. Unless The Chubb Institute has changed their curriculum, there is no CCNA course there. I would have him verify that the person he talked with knows the difference between CCNA, and CNA. In addition, if I had it over, I would have taken my 10K and bought 3 computers, NT Server, NT Workstation, Win 95, and a router and switch or two (low end) and done it all myself. Hindsight is 20/20 they say. If he is a self starter, and not afraid to talk to/ask others when he is stuck, he will get an immesurable amount of better experience from building it himself and doing the learning. I have not recommended anyone of my collegues to attend Chubb either full or part time, that should say something. IMVHO, Jim Croyle -Original Message- From: Marshal Schoener [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 3:33 PM To: 'Rah Sta'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: $13,300 for 5 months In my opinion, 5 months is enough time to pass those 5 tests!!! But, that's just my opinion :-) I know some people that went to CHUBBS, and liked it. -Marshal -Original Message- From: Rah Sta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 12:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: $13,300 for 5 months To all, I have a friend who wants to get into networking. He plans on taking a 5 month networking course at CHUBBS. I told him he's crazy. He said that they will give him the skills he need to PASS 4 Microsoft exam(MCSE) and CCNA. I told him that impossible, especially for $13,500. He lives in the New York/New Jersey area. I know there are better courses out there. Does any one have any suggestion? He has $13,500 to spend. Raheem Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: $13,300 for 5 months
In the big picture $13,500/- is nothing. Chubb has a good reputation specially in the NJ area and they have placement services too. Disclaimer: Never went to Chubb have no vested interest but know a few folks that gradated from there and speak highly of it. Regards. Khalid Ahmed - Original Message - From: "Marshal Schoener" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Rah Sta'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 3:32 PM Subject: RE: $13,300 for 5 months > In my opinion, 5 months is enough time to pass those 5 tests!!! > But, that's just my opinion :-) > I know some people that went to CHUBBS, and liked it. > -Marshal > > -Original Message- > From: Rah Sta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 12:09 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: $13,300 for 5 months > > > To all, > > I have a friend who wants to get into networking. He plans on taking a 5 > month networking course at CHUBBS. I told him he's crazy. He said that they > will give him the skills he need to PASS 4 Microsoft exam(MCSE) and CCNA. I > told him that impossible, especially for $13,500. He lives in the New > York/New Jersey area. I know there are better courses out there. Does any > one have any suggestion? He has $13,500 to spend. > > >Raheem > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: $13,300 for 5 months
Does your friend needs to go to school? Does he has the ability to learn on his own? I would spend $3500 on equipment. Study by himself, than go to the training if he needs it for that course. Remember another thing, MCSE is not networking. It is system administration. Albert -Original Message- From: Rah Sta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 12:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: $13,300 for 5 months To all, I have a friend who wants to get into networking. He plans on taking a 5 month networking course at CHUBBS. I told him he's crazy. He said that they will give him the skills he need to PASS 4 Microsoft exam(MCSE) and CCNA. I told him that impossible, especially for $13,500. He lives in the New York/New Jersey area. I know there are better courses out there. Does any one have any suggestion? He has $13,500 to spend. Raheem Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: $13,300 for 5 months
Hi, Ask you friend to check out http://www.microskills.net website if they have office where he lived. They have similar "package" training that cover A+, Network+, CNE, MCSE, CCNA for people that want to get into networking since they start from ground up. And their cost is starting around 12K to "all-in-one" package is around 16K ( Ouch ! ). But, I heard they have a very good labs setup that where you have hand-on experiences. BTW, is anyone have experience or comment about Microskills classess ? TIA -Original Message- From: Rah Sta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 12:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: $13,300 for 5 months To all, I have a friend who wants to get into networking. He plans on taking a 5 month networking course at CHUBBS. I told him he's crazy. He said that they will give him the skills he need to PASS 4 Microsoft exam(MCSE) and CCNA. I told him that impossible, especially for $13,500. He lives in the New York/New Jersey area. I know there are better courses out there. Does any one have any suggestion? He has $13,500 to spend. Raheem Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Job Description
A...hmmm, perhaps its time for 'Technical Recruiters' to began learning about the industry that they are recruiting for. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Montgomery, Robert WARCOM Contractor > Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 2:39 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Job Description > > > And THEY wonder why we are smart*sses? > > -Original Message- > From: Kris Jacobs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 10:45 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: OT: Job Description > > > Found this amusing description during an online job search and > wanted to share some levity. For those who are asleep, pay > special attention to the last sentence. ;-) > > === > Job Description: > > The position is more than a Cisco Associate. We > are looking for someone who has done router > configurations for large companies. In addition > to having a CCNA, you must have a CCIE. > === > > > Kris Jacobs | mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Proud Member: http://www.wob-l.org > Hostaged by: http://www.mad-techies.org > E-tours are available. > > Judge your success by what you had to give up in order to get it. > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ > To unsubscribe from the Jobs list, send a message to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body containing: > unsubscribe jobs > ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RE: $13,300 for 5 months
I don't know if I'd spend $13k on classes...it depends on what other resources you have at your disposal. If you work with the equipment every day and will have ample opportunity to reinforce what you were exposed to in the classroom, then go ahead and take the classes. However, a better option might be to buy a couple of PCs and a couple of routers, and a whole stack of books with lots of labs and examples. Then just plug all your toys together, and sit and read. :-) Once you're done with the MCSE, you could then install Linux on those PCs, and then Novell, and then... :-) Best of luck - Bradley J. Wilson CCNA, CCDA, CCSE, MCT, CTT Marshal Schoener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In my opinion, 5 months is enough time to pass those 5 tests!!! But, that's just my opinion :-) I know some people that went to CHUBBS, and liked it. -Marshal -Original Message- From: Rah Sta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 12:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: $13,300 for 5 months To all, I have a friend who wants to get into networking. He plans on taking a 5 month networking course at CHUBBS. I told him he's crazy. He said that they will give him the skills he need to PASS 4 Microsoft exam(MCSE) and CCNA. I told him that impossible, especially for $13,500. He lives in the New York/New Jersey area. I know there are better courses out there. Does any one have any suggestion? He has $13,500 to spend. Raheem Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ip classless ?
Guy's, "When classless routing is in effect, if a router receives packets destined for a subnet of a network that has no network default route, the router forwards the packet to the best supernet route." Fenris
Re: $13,300 for 5 months
Rah, I will train him in 3 months, one on one. Joe Rah Sta wrote: > To all, > > I have a friend who wants to get into networking. He plans on taking a 5 > month networking course at CHUBBS. I told him he's crazy. He said that they > will give him the skills he need to PASS 4 Microsoft exam(MCSE) and CCNA. I > told him that impossible, especially for $13,500. He lives in the New > York/New Jersey area. I know there are better courses out there. Does any > one have any suggestion? He has $13,500 to spend. > >Raheem > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Job Description
And THEY wonder why we are smart*sses? -Original Message- From: Kris Jacobs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 10:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: Job Description Found this amusing description during an online job search and wanted to share some levity. For those who are asleep, pay special attention to the last sentence. ;-) === Job Description: The position is more than a Cisco Associate. We are looking for someone who has done router configurations for large companies. In addition to having a CCNA, you must have a CCIE. === Kris Jacobs | mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Proud Member: http://www.wob-l.org Hostaged by: http://www.mad-techies.org E-tours are available. Judge your success by what you had to give up in order to get it. ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: $13,300 for 5 months
In my opinion, 5 months is enough time to pass those 5 tests!!! But, that's just my opinion :-) I know some people that went to CHUBBS, and liked it. -Marshal -Original Message- From: Rah Sta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 12:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: $13,300 for 5 months To all, I have a friend who wants to get into networking. He plans on taking a 5 month networking course at CHUBBS. I told him he's crazy. He said that they will give him the skills he need to PASS 4 Microsoft exam(MCSE) and CCNA. I told him that impossible, especially for $13,500. He lives in the New York/New Jersey area. I know there are better courses out there. Does any one have any suggestion? He has $13,500 to spend. Raheem Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: Cisco Career Certification T-Shirt Received
Where'd y'all get these shirts from? I've got two Cisco certs and don't have a single Cisco shirt in my wardrobe... Thanks, Bradley Wilson CCNA, CCDA, CCSE, MCT, CTT Dale Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Really??? Not mine... My CCNA Cisco Career Certification T-Shirt has a really big CCNA logo and Cisco Career Certifications box in the front that takes up about the whole front of the shirt. On the back, right between the shoulders, is a fist clutching a diploma or something like that. It's a pretty cool shirt... Dale [=`) >From: Brian >Reply-To: Brian >To: wind >CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Cisco Career Certification T-Shirt Received >Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 13:24:35 -0500 (CDT) > > >I got one of those before too. I don't think they always send you one for >every cert...maybe just when they have them in stock? > >Anyways, its about the lamest Cisco tshirt I have ever seen :)) The whole >thing is white, all over, with a small cisco logo/statment over the left >chest. > >On Thu, 24 Aug 2000, wind wrote: > > > Hi; > > > > I had received Cisco Career Certification T-shirt today. > > > > Cheers > > Vincent > > > > > > ___ > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >--- >Brian Feeny, CCNA, CCDA [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Network Administrator >ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) > >___ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CIT Support Exam in CCNP 2.0 Track.
No Exam is not changed its the same avi "Eazhil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hi All, > I would like to clarify,whether the exam is changed > for CIT 2.0.Is that anybody attended CIT Support exam > after july 31st.The objectives are seems same in the > cisco site.Please clarify regarding this. > > Thanks...Pal > > = > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com/ > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: reverse telnet
Do a show line on the router. Find the number of your aux port and add 2000, this is your port # for the aux. Then telnet to the address /port of the router and wa-la. telnet 127.16.1.39 2129 - Original Message - From: "Thomas Peroutka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Group Study" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 9:24 AM Subject: reverse telnet > Hello Group, > > anyone who can tell me how to do a reverse telnet from the AUX port of > one router to the AUX port of another (directly connected) router? > > Thomas > > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Router for play @ home
I think you 'll find that a couple of 7513's will make for a pretty good home lab ... ;-) Feargal -Original Message- From: Mike Sholar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 5:29 AM To: Group Study Subject: Router for play @ home Hello people! Not exactly a cert question, but it applies. I will soon be getting cable intenet access at the house, and would like to purchase a cisco router to play with behind the cable modem. What series router should I be looking at, just to learn the ios and play around with. I am working on my CCNA, and realize a physical router is not necessary, but I will be progressing upwards and would like the experience. I looked at the 924 cable modem/router cisco sells, and the $899 price tag was a little much for play-time! Thanks for the input. Mike MCSE, MCP+I ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Adding HW to PIX
Unofficially, the PIX uses Intel Etherexpress PRO/100 NIC's, which I would suspect that the PIX's IOS would only have drivers for this card. To be completely sure, the only sure fire solution would be to take the NIC out of the PIX, put it into a Windows 2000 machine, and see what it autodetects the NIC as (Win98 would probably work, but the autodetection on 2000 is much better IMHO). It is doubtful a 3com NIC would work. Remember, the PIX (well, the 520 anyways) is just an Intel AL440LX motherboard with a Pentium II processor. (Or a VS440FX motherboard with a Pentium Pro processor). HTH. Craig Johnson, CCNP, CCDP -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Oscar Rau Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 9:46 AM To: Cisco GroupStudy Subject: Adding HW to PIX Hi, The PIX system we have only has the inside and outside NICs, which are default. If I were buy a 3Com card off the self and use it to connect to the DMZ, would that effect PIX in anyway. Would PIX recognize this new network HW? Is it something that I have to buy only from Cisco? The difference in cost is big $$$. Any advice or exprience appreciated. TIA. -- Oscar Rau [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cisco Career Certification T-Shirt Received
Really??? Not mine... My CCNA Cisco Career Certification T-Shirt has a really big CCNA logo and Cisco Career Certifications box in the front that takes up about the whole front of the shirt. On the back, right between the shoulders, is a fist clutching a diploma or something like that. It's a pretty cool shirt... Dale [=`) >From: Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: wind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Cisco Career Certification T-Shirt Received >Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 13:24:35 -0500 (CDT) > > >I got one of those before too. I don't think they always send you one for >every cert...maybe just when they have them in stock? > >Anyways, its about the lamest Cisco tshirt I have ever seen :)) The whole >thing is white, all over, with a small cisco logo/statment over the left >chest. > >On Thu, 24 Aug 2000, wind wrote: > > > Hi; > > > > I had received Cisco Career Certification T-shirt today. > > > > Cheers > > Vincent > > > > > > ___ > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >--- >Brian Feeny, CCNA, CCDA [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Network Administrator >ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) > >___ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BCRAN EXAM INFO
Passing mark is 709 for me anyway. I wrote in a week or so ago. As for how hard it is, well it is relative with your experience I guess. I wrote over 20 exams (microsoft, novell, citrix, A+, and cisco) and I would say that it is up in the 8 region on a scale of 10. A good thing that I was not enough prepare for was the kind of series model. Make sure you know the difference between them. (700/800/1600/2500/3600/5X00 and even a question on 1 and 12000). They provide you with about 80 commands and you have to rewrite the correct one. Know your ISDN inside and out! (dialer, backup, ppp etc) A few FR/X25 (PAD, x121 and so on) Know your modem/reverse telnet/AT commands Compress, aaa and NAT/PAT briefly cover. Hope this helps and good luck! ""Nahrajieh D.Anggaon"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 01c00c57$1720fda0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:01c00c57$1720fda0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hey guys, > > What's the passing mark for BCRAN exam, how many exam items on the exam? > Has the BCRAN exam been revised already? I'm planning to take the exam and > I'm > using BCRAN by Catherine Paquet /Cisco Press. I want to know whether this is > enough > to prepare me. > > I'll really appreciate any response from you .. > If someone has recently taken this exam, can you kindly share your > experience. How hard is it > And what area should I concentrate ( w/o violating Cisco Disclosure ) > > > Thanks, > > Ajie > CCNA,MCP > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Reverse telnet definition
>From the DOC CD: "Performing a reverse Telnet means that you are initiating a Telnet session out the asynchronous line, instead of accepting a connection into the line (called a forward connection)." Does that help? Dale [=`) >From: RD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: RD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Reverse telnet definition >Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 11:28:31 -0700 (PDT) > >After the recent "what's in an IP packet" and "How do you pronounce " >threads, I hesitate to ask a simple question, but here goes... > >...can anyone explain to me why Cisco insists on calling it "Reverse >Telnet"??? Telnet is telnet right? What am I missing? > >- Rich > > > > > >___ >Say Bye to Slow Internet! >http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html > >___ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
$13,300 for 5 months
To all, I have a friend who wants to get into networking. He plans on taking a 5 month networking course at CHUBBS. I told him he's crazy. He said that they will give him the skills he need to PASS 4 Microsoft exam(MCSE) and CCNA. I told him that impossible, especially for $13,500. He lives in the New York/New Jersey area. I know there are better courses out there. Does any one have any suggestion? He has $13,500 to spend. Raheem Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OT---Getting that review
Whether I am asking for a raise or not, I have formed the habit of doing this for my boss & asking it of my employees. I do the same for my goals for the next year. And although I put it in the file annually, I update it & tell my employees to update theirs regularly, maybe every 3 months, or you'll forget what you've done. And everyone else will forget at least as fast as you do. >>> "Coker, Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 08/23 11:14 AM >>> Documentation! Your boss is probably responsible for many people. So when you go and ask for a raise, he/she will definitely NOT remember all of your accomplishments. Therefore, make sure you document every project that you've worked on and any and all accolades you received by completing those projects. Type this up in an organized Word document, recommended 1 page, and ask your boss for a time when you can sit down with him/her. During the meeting, present your reasons why you feel you deserve a raise and hand over your achievements letter. Discuss the projects you've worked on and emphasize on any things you've done "above and beyond" the average employee (ie additional certs, awards, etc). After you present your case your boss should happily give you a raise. If he/she doesn't, in this industry, leave the company and find an employer that will respect and award you for your accomplishments. Additional note: DO NOT mention the "life changes e.g. (new born)." This is a personal issue and while it may mean a lot to you, it in no way will reflect on WHY you should receive a raise. Don't even mention it. Raises are given for exceptional performance based on position. They are not based on personal issues such as new house, new kid, being broke, etc. Focus on your accomplishments and you'll do just fine. Good luck! --Mike > -Original Message- > From: J K [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 6:34 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: OT---Getting that review > > > I am sorry for the off topic post . But i wanted to know how > to go about a > review for my self within my company . I am always told about doing > prompt and consistent work . My question is how to go about > this . Since my > employment i have had a few life changes e.g (new born) . I > feel the need > for a review . I just dont know the best way to go about it . > I searched > through the archives but couldnot find i good answer . > > > > I appreciate anyones Input > > > Reguards > > JK > > > Jipp Jipp > __ > __ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ___ To unsubscribe from the Jobs list, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body containing: unsubscribe jobs ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bcran cisco 700?
The group can correct me if I am wrong but Cisco bought an outfit call Combinet and inherited the 700 series. They are onlu producing three of them now: the 761M, 775M, and the 776M. Don't get me wrong they are supporting the lower end ones also but not just producing them anymore. "Daniel Ma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:8nsol2$arf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Just wondering why Cisco develop different platform other than standard IOS. > It makes configuration more complicated. > > "Rishard Chapoteau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:8nrifj$7uh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Are there questions about the cisco 700, and how to configure it, on the > > bcran exam? Thanx. > > > > Rishard > > > > > > ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Accesslist outbound
I would say that it depends on how you look at it. If you have the choice of putting it on S2's inbound or S3's outbound. If most traffic that goes through the router comes from S2 to S1, it would be a waste to put it on S2's inbound, because then all the traffic to S1 would be delayed by it. On the other hand, if most traffic that goes through the router comes from S1 to S3, it would be a waste to put it on S3's outbound, because then all the traffic from S1 would be delayed by it. You have to measure traffic from/to all interfaces and also deside if you need to control access from only one interface and/or to only one interface. Sit down and make some drawings, and you would see how to best optimize the access lists to match the traffic needs on the router. All this said, yes you're right if you look at the simple cpu utilization - if you put it on the inbound interface, unwanted traffic would be droppet before the router would waste cpu time routing it to it's destination interface. Hth, Ole -Original Message- From: Martin Eriksson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 9:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Accesslist outbound Hi! Found a little something in the CCNA Router and Switching Study Guide ( http://www.rkingma.com/cisco/TestHome.htm). that I can't really recall reading anywhere else.. A simple scenario... s1 10.10.10.102 | |routerA--s3 10.10.20.1 | s2 10.10.10.101 Access-list 1 permit 10.10.10.101 Access-list 1 deny 10.10.10.0 0.0.0.255 According to the text: " We could apply it as an inbound filter on Router A's interface to network 10.10.10.0, or as an outbound filter on Router A's interface to network 10.10.20.0. Outbound filters are less processor intensive for the router, so let's apply it outbound.". It's the last part I get confused with, "outbound filters are less processor intensive". I thought it was the opposite that it's better to stop the packets at the entry instead of the exit. I'm sure someone can sort things up for me.. best regards. Martin E ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bcran cisco 700?
I wrote the exam on august fifteen and no question on 700 series routers. "Rishard Chapoteau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:8nrifj$7uh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Are there questions about the cisco 700, and how to configure it, on the > bcran exam? Thanx. > > Rishard > > ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Adding HW to PIX
Hi, The PIX system we have only has the inside and outside NICs, which are default. If I were buy a 3Com card off the self and use it to connect to the DMZ, would that effect PIX in anyway. Would PIX recognize this new network HW? Is it something that I have to buy only from Cisco? The difference in cost is big $$$. Any advice or exprience appreciated. TIA. -- Oscar Rau [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCIE Lab Training Courses
greetings, i am searching for information on training courses specifically designed toward passing the CCIE Lab. i am aware of the following: Geotrain/Global Knowledge ANEW (Advanced Networking Expertise Workshop) I & II Chesapeake/Mentor Technologies Expert CCIE Prep Class i also remember reading about one that is offered in the mid-west, but cannot remember who offers it. any additional information/pointers would be appreciated. cheers, - kevin Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: How to pronounce?l
Title: RE: How to pronounce?l
Its not a big deal how you pronounce as long as the listener get your point. Instead of going too far in pronunciations...just tell him/her the whole form such as:
TACACS: Terminal Access Controller Access Control System.
RADIUS: Remote Authentication Dial-in User Services.
PIX: Private Inetrnet Exchange.
-Singh.
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Subject: Re: How to pronounce?l
Sorry to jump in your thread, but great question, there a number of
things I don't know how to pronounce. Rather sheepish when you're in
an interview and say you've been studying "x" and you pronounce it
wrong.
How about PIX firewall?
Is pronounced "PIX" or "P-I-X"? (if you get my meaning).
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>Can anyone tell how to pronounce the words TACACS, RADIUS? Anywhere can I
>find the pronounciation of all those abbreviations?
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>Thanks.
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Accesslist outbound
Hi! Found a little something in the CCNA Router and Switching Study Guide (http://www.rkingma.com/cisco/TestHome.htm). that I can't really recall reading anywhere else.. A simple scenario... s1 10.10.10.102 | |routerA--s3 10.10.20.1 | s2 10.10.10.101 Access-list 1 permit 10.10.10.101Access-list 1 deny 10.10.10.0 0.0.0.255 According to the text: " We could apply it as an inbound filter on Router A’s interface to network 10.10.10.0, or as an outbound filter on Router A’s interface to network 10.10.20.0. Outbound filters are less processor intensive for the router, so let’s apply it outbound.". It's the last part I get confused with, "outbound filters are less processor intensive". I thought it was the opposite that it's better to stop the packets at the entry instead of the exit. I'm sure someone can sort things up for me.. best regards. Martin E
Reverse telnet definition
After the recent "what's in an IP packet" and "How do you pronounce " threads, I hesitate to ask a simple question, but here goes... ...can anyone explain to me why Cisco insists on calling it "Reverse Telnet"??? Telnet is telnet right? What am I missing? - Rich ___ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: accesslists outbounds?
|--E0,R1,S0 WAN link>S1,R2,E0--| Vijay, You are correct in saying that an outbound filter on R1,S0 would have less impact on your WAN link than an inbound filter on R2,S1, but what about an inbound extended access list (that considers destination address) on R1,E0? It might accomplish the same thing, and be more efficient (depending on what might be happening on R1's S1, S2, S3, S4 etc.). You really have to examine closely which traffic you intend to filter, and what impact the filter will have at any of the valid places you may apply it. It is difficult to generalize this, it needs to be examined case-by-case... Dale [=`) >From: Vijay Ramcharan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Vijay Ramcharan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: accesslists outbounds? >Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 14:02:27 -0400 > >There is another advantage to placing access lists outbound. Traffic won't >have to travel across the network only to be dropped on the other side. >Less bandwidth consumption across your WAN. That's why it is recommended >that access lists be placed as close as possible to the traffic source. My >2 cents. > > >Vijay Ramcharan >CCNP, CCDA, MCSE > > >-Original Message- >From: Atif Awan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 11:28 PM >To: Dale Holmes; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: accesslists outbounds? > > >they say that outbound access lists are less processor intensive because >the >router has only to process those packets destined for the destination you >are trying to affect. When you apply it inbound then the router has to >match >each packet coming into that interface even though that packet might not be >relevant to the access list. The scenario presented is just a simple one >and >in this case it does not matter where you place the access list but think >of >two more serial interfaces in addition to S3. if you apply the access list >inbound then packets destined for S4 and S5 will also have to be processed >through the list even though they have nothing to do with the S3 interface. > >So the conclusion is that "Outbound access lists are IN GENERAL less >processor intensive than in bound access lists" ... remember IN GENERAL ... >there can be exceptions > >Regards >Atif > >-Original Message- >From: Dale Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 8:04 PM >Subject: Re: accesslists outbounds? > > > >Hard to imagine that it would be more efficient outbound on s3 rather >than > >inbound on s2. The router would have to go to all the trouble of >determining > >the path for the packet, only to drop it... seems kinda foolish. > > > >The process of reading the header and running down the access list >entries > >for a match is processor intensive, but it should not be more or less > >intensive in any one direction... the process is still the same, isn't >it? > > > >Dale > >[=`) > > > > > >>From: "Martin Eriksson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>Reply-To: "Martin Eriksson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>Subject: accesslists outbounds? > >>Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 13:01:27 +0200 > >> > >>Hi! > >> > >>Found a little something in the CCNA Router and Switching Study Guide > >>(http://www.rkingma.com/cisco/TestHome.htm). > >>that I can't really recall reading anywhere else.. > >> > >>A simple scenario... > >> > >>s1 10.10.10.102 > >> | > >> |---routerA-s3 10.10.20.1 > >> | > >>s2 10.10.10.101 > >> > >>Access-list 1 permit 10.10.10.101 > >>Access-list 1 deny 10.10.10.0 0.0.0.255 > >> > >>According to the text: " We could apply it as an inbound filter on >Router > >>A's interface to network 10.10.10.0, or as an outbound filter on Router >A's > >>interface to network 10.10.20.0. Outbound filters are less processor > >>intensive for the router, so let's apply it outbound.". > >> > >>It's the last part I get confused with, "outbound filters are less > >>processor intensive". > >>I thought it was the opposite that it's better to stop the packets at >the > >>entry instead of the exit. > >> > >>I'm sure someone can sort things up for me.. > >> > >>best regards! > >>Martin, E > >> > >> > > > > > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > > >___ > >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >___ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >___ >UPDATED
Re: Cisco Career Certification T-Shirt Received
I got one of those before too. I don't think they always send you one for every cert...maybe just when they have them in stock? Anyways, its about the lamest Cisco tshirt I have ever seen :)) The whole thing is white, all over, with a small cisco logo/statment over the left chest. On Thu, 24 Aug 2000, wind wrote: > Hi; > > I had received Cisco Career Certification T-shirt today. > > Cheers > Vincent > > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- Brian Feeny, CCNA, CCDA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Http redirection using access-lists?
On Wed, 23 Aug 2000, Khodaverdian, Hamlet wrote: > Hello all, > > Has anyone used access-lists to redirect http traffic to a Cache Engine? Is > this even possible? > > I am aware that WCCP is capable of doing http redirection and have used it > before, but I was wondering if > there are other ways to do http redirection. > > thanks in advance, yes, you can do this using policy routing, but I don't recommend it. If you are going to do it, then at least use IOS 11.3, in which policy routing was fast switched. In the below: 208.206.76.0/24 LAN ethernet 208.206.76.44 Address of the cache server ! interface Ethernet0 description To Office Ethernet ip address 208.206.76.1 255.255.255.0 no ip directed-broadcast no ip mroute-cache ip policy route-map proxy-redir ! access-list 110 deny tcp host 208.206.76.44 any eq www access-list 110 permit tcp any any eq www route-map proxy-redir permit 10 match ip address 110 set ip next-hop 208.206.76.44 This will allow the cache server itself to get out via port 80, but anything else gets sent to the cache server. Realize that the layer 3 header is not re-written. When the cache server receives the packet, it must be configured to accept packets to any destination. Each OS has a way of accomplishing this, for example with linux you would use ipchains or ipfwadm. Policy routing has no provision for health checks nor failover.which is why I would use WCCP or a layer 4 switch > > Hamlet > > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- Brian Feeny, CCNA, CCDA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bcran cisco 700?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Cisco developed this. They bought the low end router series and/or the company that made them. Since then, the 800 series, which is the replacement for the 700 series, uses a version of IOS. ---JRE--- "Daniel Ma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:8nsol2$arf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Just wondering why Cisco develop different platform other than standard IOS. > It makes configuration more complicated. > > "Rishard Chapoteau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:8nrifj$7uh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Are there questions about the cisco 700, and how to configure it, on the > > bcran exam? Thanx. > > > > Rishard > > > > > > ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OT---Getting that review
Documentation! Your boss is probably responsible for many people. So when you go and ask for a raise, he/she will definitely NOT remember all of your accomplishments. Therefore, make sure you document every project that you've worked on and any and all accolades you received by completing those projects. Type this up in an organized Word document, recommended 1 page, and ask your boss for a time when you can sit down with him/her. During the meeting, present your reasons why you feel you deserve a raise and hand over your achievements letter. Discuss the projects you've worked on and emphasize on any things you've done "above and beyond" the average employee (ie additional certs, awards, etc). After you present your case your boss should happily give you a raise. If he/she doesn't, in this industry, leave the company and find an employer that will respect and award you for your accomplishments. Additional note: DO NOT mention the "life changes e.g. (new born)." This is a personal issue and while it may mean a lot to you, it in no way will reflect on WHY you should receive a raise. Don't even mention it. Raises are given for exceptional performance based on position. They are not based on personal issues such as new house, new kid, being broke, etc. Focus on your accomplishments and you'll do just fine. Good luck! --Mike > -Original Message- > From: J K [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 6:34 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: OT---Getting that review > > > I am sorry for the off topic post . But i wanted to know how > to go about a > review for my self within my company . I am always told about doing > prompt and consistent work . My question is how to go about > this . Since my > employment i have had a few life changes e.g (new born) . I > feel the need > for a review . I just dont know the best way to go about it . > I searched > through the archives but couldnot find i good answer . > > > > I appreciate anyones Input > > > Reguards > > JK > > > Jipp Jipp > __ > __ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ___ To unsubscribe from the Jobs list, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body containing: unsubscribe jobs ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: accesslists outbounds?
There is another advantage to placing access lists outbound. Traffic won't have to travel across the network only to be dropped on the other side. Less bandwidth consumption across your WAN. That's why it is recommended that access lists be placed as close as possible to the traffic source. My 2 cents. Vijay Ramcharan CCNP, CCDA, MCSE -Original Message- From: Atif Awan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 11:28 PM To: Dale Holmes; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: accesslists outbounds? they say that outbound access lists are less processor intensive because the router has only to process those packets destined for the destination you are trying to affect. When you apply it inbound then the router has to match each packet coming into that interface even though that packet might not be relevant to the access list. The scenario presented is just a simple one and in this case it does not matter where you place the access list but think of two more serial interfaces in addition to S3. if you apply the access list inbound then packets destined for S4 and S5 will also have to be processed through the list even though they have nothing to do with the S3 interface. So the conclusion is that "Outbound access lists are IN GENERAL less processor intensive than in bound access lists" ... remember IN GENERAL ... there can be exceptions Regards Atif -Original Message- From: Dale Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 8:04 PM Subject: Re: accesslists outbounds? >Hard to imagine that it would be more efficient outbound on s3 rather than >inbound on s2. The router would have to go to all the trouble of determining >the path for the packet, only to drop it... seems kinda foolish. > >The process of reading the header and running down the access list entries >for a match is processor intensive, but it should not be more or less >intensive in any one direction... the process is still the same, isn't it? > >Dale >[=`) > > >>From: "Martin Eriksson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Reply-To: "Martin Eriksson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Subject: accesslists outbounds? >>Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 13:01:27 +0200 >> >>Hi! >> >>Found a little something in the CCNA Router and Switching Study Guide >>(http://www.rkingma.com/cisco/TestHome.htm). >>that I can't really recall reading anywhere else.. >> >>A simple scenario... >> >>s1 10.10.10.102 >> | >> |---routerA-s3 10.10.20.1 >> | >>s2 10.10.10.101 >> >>Access-list 1 permit 10.10.10.101 >>Access-list 1 deny 10.10.10.0 0.0.0.255 >> >>According to the text: " We could apply it as an inbound filter on Router >>A's interface to network 10.10.10.0, or as an outbound filter on Router A's >>interface to network 10.10.20.0. Outbound filters are less processor >>intensive for the router, so let's apply it outbound.". >> >>It's the last part I get confused with, "outbound filters are less >>processor intensive". >>I thought it was the opposite that it's better to stop the packets at the >>entry instead of the exit. >> >>I'm sure someone can sort things up for me.. >> >>best regards! >>Martin, E >> >> > > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > >___ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCPREP.com and CERTIFICATIONZONE.com
Hello Chris Z, Would you be interested to trade your CCIE written material for CCPrep materials. I have other stuff to share. Shoot me an email ASAP. Thanks RamanG ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: accesslists outbounds?
OK, OK, I see what you mean, but suppose that s1, s2, s4 and s5 are point-to-point links to stub networks, but s3 is a connection to the core, or to the Internet, or anywhere else such that the majority of the traffic entering the router on any other interface leaves through s3. In this case, nearly all the traffic entering the router gets passed through the access list as opposed to the traffic from a single interface (s2). I would strongly avoid saying that outbound lists are generally less processor intensive, but instead you might say that in certian configurations they can be... I think that "IN GENERAL", most access lists are processor intensive, and placement of the access list, inbound or outbound, should be evaluated on a case-by-case basis to determine which approach is most efficient. It all comes back to: "What is the problem you are trying to solve?" It's really starting to sink in... Thanks Howard! Dale [=`) >From: "Atif Awan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >they say that outbound access lists are less processor intensive because >the >router has only to process those packets destined for the destination you >are trying to affect. When you apply it inbound then the router has to >match >each packet coming into that interface even though that packet might not be >relevant to the access list. The scenario presented is just a simple one >and >in this case it does not matter where you place the access list but think >of >two more serial interfaces in addition to S3. if you apply the access list >inbound then packets destined for S4 and S5 will also have to be processed >through the list even though they have nothing to do with the S3 interface. > >So the conclusion is that "Outbound access lists are IN GENERAL less >processor intensive than in bound access lists" ... remember IN GENERAL ... >there can be exceptions > >Regards >Atif > >-Original Message- >From: Dale Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 8:04 PM >Subject: Re: accesslists outbounds? > > > >Hard to imagine that it would be more efficient outbound on s3 rather >than > >inbound on s2. The router would have to go to all the trouble of >determining > >the path for the packet, only to drop it... seems kinda foolish. > > > >The process of reading the header and running down the access list >entries > >for a match is processor intensive, but it should not be more or less > >intensive in any one direction... the process is still the same, isn't >it? > > > >Dale > >[=`) > > > > > >>From: "Martin Eriksson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>Reply-To: "Martin Eriksson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>Subject: accesslists outbounds? > >>Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 13:01:27 +0200 > >> > >>Hi! > >> > >>Found a little something in the CCNA Router and Switching Study Guide > >>(http://www.rkingma.com/cisco/TestHome.htm). > >>that I can't really recall reading anywhere else.. > >> > >>A simple scenario... > >> > >>s1 10.10.10.102 > >> | > >> |---routerA-s3 10.10.20.1 > >> | > >>s2 10.10.10.101 > >> > >>Access-list 1 permit 10.10.10.101 > >>Access-list 1 deny 10.10.10.0 0.0.0.255 > >> > >>According to the text: " We could apply it as an inbound filter on >Router > >>A's interface to network 10.10.10.0, or as an outbound filter on Router >A's > >>interface to network 10.10.20.0. Outbound filters are less processor > >>intensive for the router, so let's apply it outbound.". > >> > >>It's the last part I get confused with, "outbound filters are less > >>processor intensive". > >>I thought it was the opposite that it's better to stop the packets at >the > >>entry instead of the exit. > >> > >>I'm sure someone can sort things up for me.. > >> > >>best regards! > >>Martin, E > >> > >> > > > > > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > > >___ > >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: How to pronounce? router
Hell, I just pronounce it as "Pseudo intelligent, path selecting, multi-protocol packet forwarding device". -Original Message- From: Dale Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 9:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:RE: How to pronounce? router Well, it's spelled "router", but it's pronounced "Throat wobbler mangrove"... But soon it will be pronounced everywhere as: "Layer 3 switch" Heheheh Dale [=`) >From: Ole Drews Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Ole Drews Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "'Ajaz Nawaz'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: How to pronounce? router >Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 08:50:20 -0500 > >Take a look here: > >http://www.dictionary.com/cgi-bin/dict.pl?term=router > >The funny thing is that it can be pronounced different ways. > >I, being from Denmark, have used the word both there and in Houston, Texas >where I have lived for the last four years, and both places I have always >used and heard it pronounced "rau-dor". > >I have never heard it pronounced "roo-ter" - not even at Hooters :-) > >Hth, > >Ole > > > Ole Drews Jensen > Systems Network Manager > CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I > RWR Enterprises, Inc. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >-Original Message- >From: Ajaz Nawaz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 8:14 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: How to pronounce? router > > >How should one pronounce - ROUTER > >In England most say - rooter > >I know in the US most say - rau ter > > > >Paul Borghese wrote: > > > In Boston it is: > > > >Tkaas > > > > In New York it is: > > > >"Who wants to know?" > > > > In New Jersey it is pronounced TACACS but you need to give not just your >Username and Password but also what exit. > > > > In Georgia it is pronounced Tacacs but you need to add a "ya' all" to >the >end and the password is always peach. > > > > In San Francisco it is pronounced: > > > > Tacacs.com > > > > Paul Borghese > > > > ""Cthulu, CCIE Candidate"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in >message >8nvemd$p0t$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8nvemd$p0t$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > Here's the way new Texans pronounce it... > > > > > > > > > Tacacs = 'TIE- kax" > > > > > > RADIUS = "Ray Dee Us" > > > > > > HTH, > > > > > > Charles > > > > > > > > > ""Victor Jia"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > > > 8nvea4$noh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8nvea4$noh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > > Can anyone tell how to pronounce the words TACACS, RADIUS? Anywhere >can I > > > > find the pronounciation of all those abbreviations? > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > --- > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > --- > > > > ___ > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- > > > >___ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >___ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ip local pool addressing question
I was using passive interface for the dialer and async-group, the suggestion that solved my problem was from Brian Feeny, CCNA, CCDA at [EMAIL PROTECTED], who sent : "I think what you're saying is that the Access Server is announcing the individule /32's which is creating alot of route table entries on your network? If you would like to reduce that...as much as possible, then you can implement route aggregation/summarization, so that the access server just announces a summary." And, when I applied route summarization for the 10.20.211.0 network on the ethernet interface, everything cleared up. It seems really simple in retrospect, but its like the old days when the person who knew where to whack the mainframe got the most pay and results! Thanks to all for the suggestions... Connie Cubberley Manager 1, IP State of New Jersey -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Cyrax Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 11:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ip local pool addressing question Hi, I would suggest you use passsive interface command to prevent these updates from being propagated into your network eg router eigrp X passive-interface Dialer1 passive-interface FastEthernet0 passive-interface Group-Async0 passive-interface Serial0:15 passive-interface Serial1:15 passive-interface Serial2:15 passive-interface Serial3:15 Cyrax ""C. Cubberley"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hi, > >We are using Cisco AS5200's for our remote users to dial-in to our site. > We have configured a local pool of ip addresses that they get assigned when > they connect. (ip local pool as01 10.20.211.1 10.20.211.254). > We are using EIGRP as the routing protocol, and when I show ip routes for > one of the users, I see that they have a 32-bit subnet mask. > (10.20.211.137/32 is directly connected, Async30). When they disconnect, > the routing table believes it has to update this change. (I think.) Is > there a way to specify a different subnet mask? > I would like to reduce the incidences of routing updates from these devices. > I think I am getting lost in EIGRP. Does anyone know if I am on the right > track in following the way EIGRP works? (I have read the CISCO sites > documentation, and been to the troubleshooting EIGRP presentation at > networkers, but think I need to understand this better!) > > Thanks, > Connie Cubberley > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] winmail.dat
OT: Job Description
Found this amusing description during an online job search and wanted to share some levity. For those who are asleep, pay special attention to the last sentence. ;-) === Job Description: The position is more than a Cisco Associate. We are looking for someone who has done router configurations for large companies. In addition to having a CCNA, you must have a CCIE. === Kris Jacobs | mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Proud Member: http://www.wob-l.org Hostaged by: http://www.mad-techies.org E-tours are available. Judge your success by what you had to give up in order to get it. ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cisco Career Certification T-Shirt Received
Hi; I had received Cisco Career Certification T-shirt today. Cheers Vincent ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: accesslists outbounds?
they say that outbound access lists are less processor intensive because the router has only to process those packets destined for the destination you are trying to affect. When you apply it inbound then the router has to match each packet coming into that interface even though that packet might not be relevant to the access list. The scenario presented is just a simple one and in this case it does not matter where you place the access list but think of two more serial interfaces in addition to S3. if you apply the access list inbound then packets destined for S4 and S5 will also have to be processed through the list even though they have nothing to do with the S3 interface. So the conclusion is that "Outbound access lists are IN GENERAL less processor intensive than in bound access lists" ... remember IN GENERAL ... there can be exceptions Regards Atif -Original Message- From: Dale Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 8:04 PM Subject: Re: accesslists outbounds? >Hard to imagine that it would be more efficient outbound on s3 rather than >inbound on s2. The router would have to go to all the trouble of determining >the path for the packet, only to drop it... seems kinda foolish. > >The process of reading the header and running down the access list entries >for a match is processor intensive, but it should not be more or less >intensive in any one direction... the process is still the same, isn't it? > >Dale >[=`) > > >>From: "Martin Eriksson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Reply-To: "Martin Eriksson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Subject: accesslists outbounds? >>Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 13:01:27 +0200 >> >>Hi! >> >>Found a little something in the CCNA Router and Switching Study Guide >>(http://www.rkingma.com/cisco/TestHome.htm). >>that I can't really recall reading anywhere else.. >> >>A simple scenario... >> >>s1 10.10.10.102 >> | >> |---routerA-s3 10.10.20.1 >> | >>s2 10.10.10.101 >> >>Access-list 1 permit 10.10.10.101 >>Access-list 1 deny 10.10.10.0 0.0.0.255 >> >>According to the text: " We could apply it as an inbound filter on Router >>A's interface to network 10.10.10.0, or as an outbound filter on Router A's >>interface to network 10.10.20.0. Outbound filters are less processor >>intensive for the router, so let's apply it outbound.". >> >>It's the last part I get confused with, "outbound filters are less >>processor intensive". >>I thought it was the opposite that it's better to stop the packets at the >>entry instead of the exit. >> >>I'm sure someone can sort things up for me.. >> >>best regards! >>Martin, E >> >> > > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > >___ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help -- How to load balance in OSPF environment?
If you are hoping that 40% of the traffic will go over one interface, and 60% will go over the faster interface, OSPF can not do that (EIGRP/IGRP can with the variance command for unequal loading). However, OSPF will automatically load balance over up to 4 equal cost paths. You can set the OSPF cost for each interface to be the same using the ip ospf cost command. Some info from Cisco about your question: HTH, Charles >From Cisco TAC Q&A Forum Q: How does OSPF calculate its metric or cost? A: OSPF uses a reference bandwidth of 100 Mbps for cost calculation. The formula to calculate the cost is reference bandwidth divided by interface bandwidth. For example, in the case of Ethernet, it's 100 Mbps/10 Mbps = 10. Note: If ip ospf cost is used on the interface, it overrides this formulated cost. Question: Does OSPF automatically load balance or are additional commands needed? (I have parallel T1 serial links going between an OSPF Area 0 router and an Area 1 router.) Answer: The router will load-balance over two T1 links if it sees equal OSPF costs to a given destination. The default is up to four parallel paths, and in your case, it should be two. You can verify this by doing a sh ip route and look for two paths to a given destination network across the WAN links. Also, if IP fast-switching is turned on, the router will load-balance on a per-destination basis, and if IP fast-switching is turned off, the router will load-balance on a packet-by-packet basis. ...and also... Question: Does OSPF support load balancing among serial lines? Answer: Yes, load balancing works in OSPF with up to four equal-cost paths, serial or otherwise. Internetwork topologies are typically designed to provide redundant routes in order to prevent a partitioned network. Redundancy is also useful to provide additional bandwidth for high traffic areas. If equal-cost paths between nodes exist, Cisco routers automatically load-balance in an OSPF environment . Cisco routers can use up to four equal-cost paths for a given destination. Packets might be distributed either on a per-destination (when fast switching) or a per-packet basis. Per-destination load balancing is the default behavior. Per-packet load balancing can be enabled by turning off fast switching using the no ip route-cache interface configuration command. For line speeds of 56 kbps and faster, it is recommended that you enable fast switching. "HYniuniu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > We paln to have two leased lines connected between two routers. One > line is 512K and another is 768K. Can we load balance between these two > lines by using ospf? If can, how to? Eager for your advice. Thank you > very much! > ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: what criteria does a access-list use when a there is a contradiction?
IP Access-Lists, or rather Cisco Access-lists in general, are parsed from top to bottom, until a match is found. The criteria used, is "first match". Given your examples: ip access-list 10 deny host 192.168.1.19 ip access-list 10 permit any A packet comes to the list from 10.0.0.1 -- first line is read, it is not from 192.168.1.19.. no match. So the next line is read. The packet is permitted. Same list, but a packet enters from 192.168.1.19 -- first line is read, it IS from 192.168.1.19.. it matches. Packet denied, dumped in the bit bucket, end of story. The next line is never looked at. This is why the order of your rules in the access-list is important.. as is the placement of the list. Regards, Trevor Corness, MCSE MCP+I CCNA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Clay Stuckey Sent: August 23, 2000 8:25 AM To: Group Study Subject: what criteria does a access-list use when a there is a contradiction? more specifically with the following: ip access-list 10 deny host 192.168.1.19 ip access-list 10 permit any ip access-group 10 in I was recently told that the last line overrides any previous command. According to the Transcender info, the most restrictive security would be taken. How bout something as obvious as this: ip access-list 10 deny host 192.168.1.19 ip access-list 10 permit host 192.168.1.19 ip access-group 10 in Thanks, Clay Stuckey - MCSE for my resume, go to http://24.17.223.89/clay/clayres3.doc ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what criteria does a access-list use when a there is a contradiction?
>more specifically with the following: > > >ip access-list 10 deny host 192.168.1.19 >ip access-list 10 permit any >ip access-group 10 in this will deny packets sourced from the host 192.168.1.19 and will allow the rest to pass through ... >I was recently told that the last line overrides any previous command. >According to the Transcender info, the most restrictive security would be >taken. the last line is for applying the access-list to an interface and if you are talking about the line before this access group then that does permit everything but keep this thing in mind that access lists are always checked sequentially. If a match occurs at any line then the appropriate action is taken and the list is no longer traversed. So in this case packets with the source ip address of 192.168.1.19 will match the first line and get denied immediately. Others will not match the first line and will definitely match the second as it is meant to match every packet so will be permitted. >How bout something as obvious as this: > >ip access-list 10 deny host 192.168.1.19 >ip access-list 10 permit host 192.168.1.19 >ip access-group 10 in this will disallow everything because there is an implicit deny all at the end of an access list. Although you are permitting host 192.168.1.19 in the second line but here also the sequential nature of the access list prevails; as a consequence the packets sourced by this host will be denied. hope this helps Regards Atif ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Http redirection using access-lists?
Hello all, Has anyone used access-lists to redirect http traffic to a Cache Engine? Is this even possible? I am aware that WCCP is capable of doing http redirection and have used it before, but I was wondering if there are other ways to do http redirection. thanks in advance, Hamlet ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
