Official BSCN mnls offered

2000-09-04 Thread Ajaz Nawaz



An opportunity to get your hands on the 
GENUINE OFFICIAL BSCN COURSEWARE. Comprises of Vol 1  2 and original 
carrying box cover  sealed documentation CD. 

I had a quick flick through these manuals 
last night (impressed) and subsequentlyhave come toa decision about 
pricing.

The Volumes mandate payment in the excess 
£150 UKpounds. Please forward your offers to :
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

I am selling these because I am getting a 
set this morning when I start the BSCN at an official Cisco Training 
Partner.

They are immaculate  look beautiful, 
and more importantly made up of quality learning 
literature.

Let me tell you unlike certification books 
these are real learning manuals containing only concepts, facts and rich 
explanations for BSCN objectives.

Ajaz UK

PS. The reason I am posting this on 
group study is because I have witnessed the screams for BSCN books and I thought 
I could help ONE of you out there that could afford this awesome package. 



RE: Subnet Question

2000-09-04 Thread Gils

It is true in regard of wild-cards.

-Original Message-
From: Albert Ip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: ??? ? 03 ?? 2000 19:14
To: 'Chuck Larrieu'; Aaron Moreau-Cook; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Subnet Question


Chuck,

Just tried it on a 3662 with IOS 12.1T and it didn't work.

Rotuer(config-if)#ip address 10.1.1.1 0.255.255.0
Bad mask 0x00 for address 10.1.1.1

Too bad, it would had made a interesting trouble-shooting lab.

Albert

-Original Message-
From: Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2000 3:06 AM
To: Aaron Moreau-Cook; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Subnet Question


I hate questions like this. Can, May, Always, Never.

RFC 1812 strongly discourages this practice.

On the other hand, the world won't end if you do. You may even create a
permanent income for yourself by setting up your network like this. ;- All
the TCP stacks I have worked with allow this on the host side. It occurs to
me I've never tried this on a Cisco router, even after the long discussion
on the topic a few months ago. Next time I'm in the routers, I'll see what
happens and report.

Chuck

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Aaron Moreau-Cook
Sent:   Saturday, September 02, 2000 5:48 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Subnet Question

Question taken from the CCNA Exam Cram book by Walters, Rees, and Coe.

A subnet mask can have a value of 0.255.255.0

A) True
B) False

The Cisco answer would dictate that it is false, and in all functionality it
is true. Hypothetically though it could be true, I rememeber this discusion
a while ago, but I'm looking to see if I am smoking the proverbial crack.

Thanks all!

Aaron Moreau-Cook
Finally taking his CCNA test this coming Friday

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Re: Reading memory in router

2000-09-04 Thread Ramu Perumal

Hai...

The total amount of DRAM = 32 MB...

24MB/8MB - The 8MB refers to the shared memory...

Ramu
CCNP

--- Circusnuts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I believe that's 24 Megs stick DRAM memory  8 Megs
 board memory (imbedded)
 for the NVRAM.  With the 2500, I'm used to seeing
 512 board memory...
 
 Phil
 
 - Original Message -
 From: whatshakin
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 2:57 AM
 Subject: Reading memory in router
 
 
 Hey folks,
 Somebody please confrim: Does this have 24 or 32 mb
 of Dram?
 
 cisco 2621 (MPC860) processor (revision 0x102) with
 24576K/8192K bytes of
 memory
 
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Foundation 2.0 vs 3 exams

2000-09-04 Thread BB

Anyone took foundation 2.0?
is it much more difficult than taking 3 individual exams?

Someone told me the passing mark of foundation has become lower
nowis it true?

BB


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Re: Official BSCN mnls offered

2000-09-04 Thread David Williams



You realize that you are violating Cisco's NDA by 
reselling training materials..

  ""Ajaz Nawaz"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 
  8ovdc7$nh7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8ovdc7$nh7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  An opportunity to get your hands on the 
  GENUINE OFFICIAL BSCN COURSEWARE. Comprises of Vol 1  2 and original 
  carrying box cover  sealed documentation CD. 
  
  I had a quick flick through these manuals 
  last night (impressed) and subsequentlyhave come toa decision 
  about pricing.
  
  The Volumes mandate payment in the excess 
  £150 UKpounds. Please forward your offers to :
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  I am selling these because I am getting a 
  set this morning when I start the BSCN at an official Cisco Training 
  Partner.
  
  They are immaculate  look beautiful, 
  and more importantly made up of quality learning 
  literature.
  
  Let me tell you unlike certification 
  books these are real learning manuals containing only concepts, facts and rich 
  explanations for BSCN objectives.
  
  Ajaz UK
  
  PS. The reason I am posting this on 
  group study is because I have witnessed the screams for BSCN books and I 
  thought I could help ONE of you out there that could afford this awesome 
  package. 


ccie lab qn

2000-09-04 Thread olabisid

Can anyone suggest the best company that offers the CCIE labs course? I
mean the ones with a good pass rate for CCIE. I also happen to be on a
not-so-tight budget ;-). I really don't mind the location so far it's
not outside the US

thanx

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intresting help (for me)

2000-09-04 Thread Ravi Kumar

hi friends

I am from Hyderabad, INDIA.

we are going to get 64 KBPS leased lines for local ISP for internet access.
as all of us now, we need a router at my end i.e.in my office to connect my
network to internet.
my query is
is there any device like internal router or any other v.35 interface card
which can be fixed in a pc, with which i can by pass costly external
routers???

your help in this regard is highly apreciated.

looking forward for your reply.

regards
ravi kumar B.


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Re: VPN CLIENT

2000-09-04 Thread Jimmy D. Burrell


Look at VPDN. I had the same problem and eventually solved it by bringing
in the Win2000 clients using M$ pptp/mschap/mppe. You will have to
authenticate to a Radius server that understands mschap/mppe-keys
(i.e. M$'s -- see NT 4.0 Option pack or W2k Server).  I know it's only
40-bit, but hey, it's encryption. Besides the vips are already on 2000 so
it's a mandate. I've found no other way.

On the other hand, I've seen a lot of references on Cisco's web site to a
new 'Cisco Secure VPN Client' for all Windows OS'es, supposedly due before
this year's end. Anybody heard any more on this?? It would sure be nice
because there is a lot more functionality in Cisco's client verses M$'s.

Hope this helps,

Jim.

On Sun, 3 Sep 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 
 
   I have configured a system which contain net to net VPN with des
 encryption between a secure PIX and a Cisco router.
 On each of them I have configured a VPN client connection with extended
 authentication against a Radius server.
 The net to net VPN works fine and the clients with the Cisco secure client
 software works fine as well.
 What I need is to configure the Windows 2000 IPSEC VPN client and I have no
 idea how it works, some help will be most appreciated.
 
 
10x in advance 
 
 
  
 GIL
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RE: Dialer Interface * VERY URGENT *

2000-09-04 Thread Gils

Hi,

   As far as I know  you need the dialer in-band to enable the dialer
interface.
The other command is a parameter for the interface it will disapper as well
if you will remive the dialer inband command.


   GIL

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Sent: ??? ??? 04 ?? 2000 09:08
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Dialer Interface * VERY URGENT *


Hi all,
  I have installed a 2503 router for ISDN dial back for a leased
line.The
vendor who configured it has included the following commands in the dilaer
interface .

(1) #dialer in-band 

and 

(2) #dialer wait-for-carrier-time 60

Since the above commands should not be used for ISDN i removed them
.
But when I saved the new config and saw the file,the following commands were
also missing fom the dialer interface which was there previously :
#dialer idle-timeout 
#dialer string x Class xx
#dilaer hold-queue xx
#dialer load-threshold xxx either
#dialer-group x

   and the only commands which were present from the previous config
were
:
#ip address negotiate
#no ip directed-broadcast
#encapsulation ppp
#ppp authentication pap callin
#ppp pap sent-user  password 

Can anyone provide a solution for the above 

 Thanks in advance


hari
 


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Re: Printer

2000-09-04 Thread Amjad M. Afana

From Router2 (Different Segment as the print server is concerned) and my
print server is 10.1.1.5

Welcome. Router 2524


User Access Verification

Password:
r2524en
Password:
r2524#ping 10.1.1.5

Type escape sequence to abort.
Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 10.1.1.5, timeout is 2 seconds:
!
Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max = 4/12/36 ms
r2524#


--
From Router1 ( on same segment)

WelcomeWelcome.  Router 2514

User Access Verification

Password:
r2514en
Password:
r2514#ping 10.1.1.5

Type escape sequence to abort.
Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 10.1.1.5, timeout is 2 seconds:
!
Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max = 4/4/4 ms
r2514#


From Windows 2000 Server ( on the far segment)

E:\Documents and Settings\Administratoripconfig/all

Windows 2000 IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : sbo2000
Primary DNS Suffix  . . . . . . . : test.com
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : test.com

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : LNE100TX Fast Ethernet Adapter
Versi
on 1.0
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-A0-CC-22-F9-DD
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 15.1.1.1
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.0.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 15.1.1.17
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 15.1.1.1

E:\Documents and Settings\Administratorping 10.1.1.5

Pinging 10.1.1.5 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 10.1.1.5: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=58
Reply from 10.1.1.5: bytes=32 time10ms TTL=58
Reply from 10.1.1.5: bytes=32 time10ms TTL=58
Reply from 10.1.1.5: bytes=32 time10ms TTL=58

Ping statistics for 10.1.1.5:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum =  10ms, Average =  2ms

E:\Documents and Settings\Administrator



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 Ping the print server from the 2000 and from each router in between.  Post
 your results here.


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 Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2000 9:00 PM
 Subject: Printer


  I have network printer in one segment and wanted to print to it from
 remote
  computers across a router (2 hops away). The printer is attached to an
 Intel
  EtherExpress Pro 100 box and is configured to use TCP/IP printing. I was
  able to install the printer on a remote Windows 2000 server, but could
not
  print. I thought maybe I have to use some IP Forward statements on my
 router
  (2500 series) but I am not sure what kind of IP or port number used. If
  somebody knows about that or can direct me to find the port number, that
  will be very much appreciated. TIA.
 
 
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RE: Subnet Question

2000-09-04 Thread Dale Cantrell

Original Message Follows
From: Albert Ip [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Albert Ip [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "'Chuck Larrieu'" [EMAIL PROTECTED],Aaron Moreau-Cook  
[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Subnet Question
Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 19:14:11 -0700

Chuck,

Just tried it on a 3662 with IOS 12.1T and it didn't work.

Rotuer(config-if)#ip address 10.1.1.1 0.255.255.0
Bad mask 0x00 for address 10.1.1.1

Too bad, it would had made a interesting trouble-shooting lab.

Albert
-
Hi Albert,
I'm familiar with Classfull, Classless Ip addressing, but how would a person 
go about symplifing one of these unusual masks to an address i.e.-
10.1.1.1/16 ?The ones are right, BUT, where would someone know WHICH
octets, you were referring to? Would you just have to type the full
address and mask.
If they don't work anyway, this is a null point.
Thanks
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hp internet advisor

2000-09-04 Thread Matt Zeniou



Hiya everyone,

I need helpwith finding info on 
"Hewlett-Packard's internet advisor" model  j2522a.  I've recently aquired one 
and know nothing about them. I've searched hp's site but found little info 
there.

thanks all

Matthew Zeniou CCNA


how to replace the flash memory

2000-09-04 Thread gary

Hi guys:
  anyone once replace the flash to more memory, my 2621's flash memory is just 8mb ,i 
want to upgrade it to 16mb, what should i pay more attention on , and is it easy to 
find this kind flash memory 


best regard

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Re: ccie lab qn

2000-09-04 Thread Circusnuts

http://www.ccbootcamp.com/

Good Luck !!!
Phil

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 not outside the US
 
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Re: how to replace the flash memory

2000-09-04 Thread Dale Cantrell

Try these two sites for purchases.
www.crucial.com
www.memoryx.net


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Hi guys:
   anyone once replace the flash to more memory, my 2621's flash memory is 
just 8mb ,i want to upgrade it to 16mb, what should i pay more attention on 
, and is it easy to find this kind flash memory





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Simplify this subnet mask

2000-09-04 Thread Dale Cantrell

My last post wasn't worded right, sorry.
10.1.1.1 255.255.00 = 10.1.1.1/16 O.K.
10.1.1.1 0.255.255.0 =??  or
10.1.1.1 170.170.170.170 =???
HOW would a person simplify this to a network address with a  /  ?
Again, if these unusual subnet masks don't work, then this point is null.
Thanks gang,
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RE: IOS upgrade

2000-09-04 Thread Hicks, Randy

I'd try shutting down all other interfaces on the router.

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To: Cisco -L post
Cc: Kevin Wigle
Subject: Re: IOS upgrade


That pit is worse when the router is Saudi and you're in 
Camp Pendleton, CA.g

Scotty



 I don't have anything to add on how to fix your problem but I wanted to
 correct the notion that you need to be in the rommon mode.

 You can copy tftp flash from the privileged mode.  You'll get asked a few
 questions, are you sure - etc and then the router will go off and do it,
 reload and come back.

 If you haven't done it across the wire before (I mean like, you're here
and
 the router is across the city) you haven't lived!  (You know that pit in
 your stomach as you're waiting for the router to come back up as you're
 packing up your laptop for an emergency trip...)

 Kevin Wigle
 CCDP/CCNP.

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 To: "Saud Shaikh" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, 03 September, 2000 02:09
 Subject: Re: IOS upgrade



 Th 2500 runs the IOS from flash, so the flash is
 read-only when the router is up and running (unless
 the flash is partioned? haven't tried it myself). To
 upgrade a 2500 series you need to do it from rommon.

 A 'show version' will report if it is read-only or
 read-write.

 --- Saud Shaikh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,
  I have a problem regarding IOS upgrade.
  I am able to backup the existing image from the
  FLASH to the TFTP server.
  However, when I try doing an IOS upgrade from the
  TFTP to the FLASH, I get
  message saying, "%FLH: Flash download failed."
  I have IOS 11.1(3) filename: flash:igs-j-l.111-3 and
  I am trying to upgrade
  to IOS 12.0(12) filename: c2500-js56i-l.120-12.bin
  I am upgrading the router from the AUI port
  connected via Ethernet 10BaseT
  transceiver.  I assigned 10.10.10.2 to my PC running
  TFTP with 10.10.10.1 as
  default gateway.   I assigned the 10.10.10.1 to the
  Ethernet Interface on
  the Cisco 2513 router.
  The specs for ROUTER are as follows
  RAM 16 Mb
  Flash 16Mb
  Router boots from Flash.


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Re: Simplify this subnet mask

2000-09-04 Thread Neil Schneider

While those masks MAY work on some systems they are not usually considered
valid.  The rule is that subnet mask bits must be contiguous from the left.
Don't have an rfc # at the moment to point to but...

Neil


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 My last post wasn't worded right, sorry.
 10.1.1.1 255.255.00 = 10.1.1.1/16 O.K.
 10.1.1.1 0.255.255.0 =??  or
 10.1.1.1 170.170.170.170 =???
 HOW would a person simplify this to a network address with a  /  ?
 Again, if these unusual subnet masks don't work, then this point is null.
 Thanks gang,
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Re: Printer

2000-09-04 Thread David Williams

Okay, you've got connectivity, but TCP/IP printing often involves port
numbers.
What is your printer model? Port assignments vary from manufacturer to
manufacturer. Apple LaserWriters configure differently than Xerox DocuPrint
printers. Check your documentation.
By far the easiest config I've managed to work (and I work with mixed
Windows/98/NT and Mac OS environments) is to enable TCP/IP printing through
the NT server, use LPR and assign requisite drivers and port assignments. I
can't imagine that W2K is much different.
Another question: can you print on a local segment from the W2K server? Try
it

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 From Router2 (Different Segment as the print server is concerned) and my
 print server is 10.1.1.5

 Welcome. Router 2524


 User Access Verification

 Password:
 r2524en
 Password:
 r2524#ping 10.1.1.5

 Type escape sequence to abort.
 Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 10.1.1.5, timeout is 2 seconds:
 !
 Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max = 4/12/36 ms
 r2524#

 --
--
 --
 From Router1 ( on same segment)

 WelcomeWelcome.  Router 2514

 User Access Verification

 Password:
 r2514en
 Password:
 r2514#ping 10.1.1.5

 Type escape sequence to abort.
 Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 10.1.1.5, timeout is 2 seconds:
 !
 Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max = 4/4/4 ms
 r2514#

 --
--
 From Windows 2000 Server ( on the far segment)

 E:\Documents and Settings\Administratoripconfig/all

 Windows 2000 IP Configuration

 Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : sbo2000
 Primary DNS Suffix  . . . . . . . : test.com
 Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
 IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
 WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
 DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : test.com

 Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

 Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
 Description . . . . . . . . . . . : LNE100TX Fast Ethernet Adapter
 Versi
 on 1.0
 Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-A0-CC-22-F9-DD
 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
 IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 15.1.1.1
 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.0.0.0
 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 15.1.1.17
 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 15.1.1.1

 E:\Documents and Settings\Administratorping 10.1.1.5

 Pinging 10.1.1.5 with 32 bytes of data:

 Reply from 10.1.1.5: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=58
 Reply from 10.1.1.5: bytes=32 time10ms TTL=58
 Reply from 10.1.1.5: bytes=32 time10ms TTL=58
 Reply from 10.1.1.5: bytes=32 time10ms TTL=58

 Ping statistics for 10.1.1.5:
 Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
 Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
 Minimum = 0ms, Maximum =  10ms, Average =  2ms

 E:\Documents and Settings\Administrator



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  Ping the print server from the 2000 and from each router in between.
Post
  your results here.
 
 
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  Subject: Printer
 
 
   I have network printer in one segment and wanted to print to it from
  remote
   computers across a router (2 hops away). The printer is attached to an
  Intel
   EtherExpress Pro 100 box and is configured to use TCP/IP printing. I
was
   able to install the printer on a remote Windows 2000 server, but could
 not
   print. I thought maybe I have to use some IP Forward statements on my
  router
   (2500 series) but I am not sure what kind of IP or port number used.
If
   somebody knows about that or can direct me to find the port number,
that
   will be very much appreciated. TIA.
  
  
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Re: Simplify this subnet mask

2000-09-04 Thread Kenneth Lorenzo

You don't because a 170.170.170.170 is a discontiguous mask and is not
supported by IEEE (or was it IETF)? anyway, CIDR naming conventions are only
used for subet masks of contiguous nature.

Kenneth

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 My last post wasn't worded right, sorry.
 10.1.1.1 255.255.00 = 10.1.1.1/16 O.K.
 10.1.1.1 0.255.255.0 =??  or
 10.1.1.1 170.170.170.170 =???
 HOW would a person simplify this to a network address with a  /  ?
 Again, if these unusual subnet masks don't work, then this point is null.
 Thanks gang,
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RE: Simplify this subnet mask

2000-09-04 Thread Chuck Larrieu

One reason why RFC 1812 forbids this kind of stuff. It really screws up CIDR

You can't express these masks as a prefix of contiguous bits.

Chuck

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My last post wasn't worded right, sorry.
10.1.1.1 255.255.00 = 10.1.1.1/16 O.K.
10.1.1.1 0.255.255.0 =??  or
10.1.1.1 170.170.170.170 =???
HOW would a person simplify this to a network address with a  /  ?
Again, if these unusual subnet masks don't work, then this point is null.
Thanks gang,
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RE: Subnet Question

2000-09-04 Thread Chuck Larrieu

OK, I've tried it on a router with 12.1.1 and same results. None of these
wacky subnets allowed.

Windows 98 still permits this kind of stuff. How about Win2K? Any of you
folks want to report if Microsoft is compliant yet?

BTW, a quick glance through the RFC reveals that Unix boxes ( mentioned by
name, but applies to all OS's ) with a single NIC should not have routing
turned on as a matter of compliance.

RFC 1812 states specifically that

The bit positions containing this extended network number have historically
been indicated by a 32-bit mask called the subnet mask. The bits SHOULD be
contiguous and fall between the and the fields. More up to date protocols do
not refer to a subnet mask, but to a prefix length; the "prefix" portion of
an address is that which would be selected by a subnet mask whose most
significant bits are all ones and the rest are zeroes. The length of the
prefix equals the number of ones in the subnet mask. This document assumes
that all subnet masks are expressible as prefix lengths.

And

Architecturally correct subnet masks are capable of being represented using
the prefix length description. They comprise that subset of all possible
bits patterns that have a contiguous string of ones at the more significant
end,  a contiguous string of zeros at the less significant end, and  no
intervening bits.

Lastly

Routers SHOULD always treat a route as a network prefix, and SHOULD reject
configuration and routing information inconsistent with that model.

The word  SHOULD in RFC land is pretty strong. Therefore a compliant router
will not accept a wacky mask. I presume this includes 3Com, Nortel, and
Lucent as well, if anyone wants to verify with those vendors.

To get back to the original question then, the answer is FALSE

I gotta remember to unlearn all the bad things I learned as a Windows
network administrator :-

Chuck


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Subject:RE: Subnet Question

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Subject: RE: Subnet Question
Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 19:14:11 -0700

Chuck,

Just tried it on a 3662 with IOS 12.1T and it didn't work.

Rotuer(config-if)#ip address 10.1.1.1 0.255.255.0
Bad mask 0x00 for address 10.1.1.1

Too bad, it would had made a interesting trouble-shooting lab.

Albert
-
Hi Albert,
I'm familiar with Classfull, Classless Ip addressing, but how would a person
go about symplifing one of these unusual masks to an address i.e.-
10.1.1.1/16 ?The ones are right, BUT, where would someone know WHICH
octets, you were referring to? Would you just have to type the full
address and mask.
If they don't work anyway, this is a null point.
Thanks
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Subnet Question

2000-09-04 Thread Dale Cantrell

Thanks all. That question has been bothering me for two days.
Getting a little better of a handle on that "cider box" thingy! :)
Again, thanks.
Dale

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Subject: RE: Subnet Question
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 07:20:39 -0700

OK, I've tried it on a router with 12.1.1 and same results. None of these
wacky subnets allowed.

Windows 98 still permits this kind of stuff. How about Win2K? Any of you
folks want to report if Microsoft is compliant yet?

BTW, a quick glance through the RFC reveals that Unix boxes ( mentioned by
name, but applies to all OS's ) with a single NIC should not have routing
turned on as a matter of compliance.

RFC 1812 states specifically that

The bit positions containing this extended network number have historically
been indicated by a 32-bit mask called the subnet mask. The bits SHOULD be
contiguous and fall between the and the fields. More up to date protocols do
not refer to a subnet mask, but to a prefix length; the "prefix" portion of
an address is that which would be selected by a subnet mask whose most
significant bits are all ones and the rest are zeroes. The length of the
prefix equals the number of ones in the subnet mask. This document assumes
that all subnet masks are expressible as prefix lengths.

And

Architecturally correct subnet masks are capable of being represented using
the prefix length description. They comprise that subset of all possible
bits patterns that have a contiguous string of ones at the more significant
end,  a contiguous string of zeros at the less significant end, and  no
intervening bits.

Lastly

Routers SHOULD always treat a route as a network prefix, and SHOULD reject
configuration and routing information inconsistent with that model.

The word  SHOULD in RFC land is pretty strong. Therefore a compliant router
will not accept a wacky mask. I presume this includes 3Com, Nortel, and
Lucent as well, if anyone wants to verify with those vendors.

To get back to the original question then, the answer is FALSE

I gotta remember to unlearn all the bad things I learned as a Windows
network administrator :-

Chuck
-
I'm familiar with Classfull, Classless Ip addressing, but how would a person
go about symplifing one of these unusual masks to an address i.e.-
10.1.1.1/16 ?The ones are right, BUT, where would someone know WHICH
octets, you were referring to? Would you just have to type the full
address and mask.
If they don't work anyway, this is a null point.
Thanks
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Re: Simplify this subnet mask

2000-09-04 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

My last post wasn't worded right, sorry.
10.1.1.1 255.255.00 = 10.1.1.1/16 O.K.
10.1.1.1 0.255.255.0 =??  or
10.1.1.1 170.170.170.170 =???
HOW would a person simplify this to a network address with a  /  ?
Again, if these unusual subnet masks don't work, then this point is null.
Thanks gang,
Dale CCNA?


Dale,

you've given the precise reason RFC1812 forbids such masks.  They 
break CIDR/aggregation/summarization.

Subnet masks, if you will, are a simple language.  In another 
language, wE cAn SaY wE cAN capITALize ANYwhere WE want, but it 
doesn't help understandability.

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Re: Simplify this subnet mask

2000-09-04 Thread UFUK YASIBEYLI




You can not simplify those addresses. Simplification shows
how many bits from leftmost bit of IP address represents network part
and how many bits represent host part.

Although subnetting RFC does not mandate left justified masks,
( at least at the time I've read it ! ) I haven't heard any usage
for non-left justified masks. Some devices (or most ?)
does not support it.

Administration of those addresses would probably be a nightmare,
although possible.

( I've left subnetting RFC number search as an excersize,
sorry I don't know it by heart)

Regards,
Ufuk.










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My last post wasn't worded right, sorry.
10.1.1.1 255.255.00 = 10.1.1.1/16 O.K.
10.1.1.1 0.255.255.0 =??  or
10.1.1.1 170.170.170.170 =???
HOW would a person simplify this to a network address with a  /  ?
Again, if these unusual subnet masks don't work, then this point is null.
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Re: Simplify this subnet mask

2000-09-04 Thread CiscoDiety

255.255.0.0/16
0.255.255.0=no such thing
170.170.170.170=no such thing

More subnet information can be found at http://www.gdd.net/cisco
As well as other Cert training docs



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Subject: Simplify this subnet mask


 My last post wasn't worded right, sorry.
 10.1.1.1 255.255.00 = 10.1.1.1/16 O.K.
 10.1.1.1 0.255.255.0 =??  or
 10.1.1.1 170.170.170.170 =???
 HOW would a person simplify this to a network address with a  /  ?
 Again, if these unusual subnet masks don't work, then this point is null.
 Thanks gang,
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Quick Remedial Subnetting Theory (not hard I swear)...

2000-09-04 Thread Circusnuts

I broke out the CCNA book, to practice readings for a couple of up  coming
interviews (this week).  Here is what I have forgotten :-)  OK- I can
calculate the mask (no issues here), but I cannot logically figure out how I
would start the host addressing.  Case in point (bare with me, this all
looks s familiar it might just set back in while writing this :-)

192.16.12.0 is my given class C

I need 10 users (hosts- 11 counting the Ethernet Interface)

So this means I must take 2 to the 4th (16-2= 14 usable) on the mask side 
that leaves me with 2 to the 4th on the Host addressing side (same 14
usable).

How to I proceed with the first to last IP's available... i.e.

My nature tendency, it to look @ things this way...
192.16.12._ to _, does this mean I am now in the 16's if I recall.
192.16.12.1 thru 15, 192.16.12.16 thru 31, 192.16.12.32 thru 63, etc...

The book I have (full of typo's) starts with a 192.16.12.144 as the first
address...

Hope this is not too confusing...
Thanks All !!!
Phil


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RE: Subnet Question

2000-09-04 Thread Chuck Larrieu

Yes, but a subnet mask and a wildcard mask are two entirely different
things, with two entirely different functions.

A subnet mask determines which portion of an IP address is the network
portion, and which portion is the host portion.

A wildcard mask merely indicates which IP addresses match a particular
addressing requirement.

Just to rant a teeny bit, it is unfortunate that in a number of the study
guides, wildcard masks are presented and treated as if they of necessity are
related to subnet masks. I.e. as an "inverse" of the subnet mask.  So if I
want to filter a network with an access list I use the "inverse" mask, or if
I want to place a network into the OSPF process, I use the "inverse" mask.

While I appreciate the difficulty of properly explaining the concepts, and I
particularly appreciate the difficulty most of us have in understanding and
internalizing binary math, the fact remains that the things implied in the
books and presentations I have read are wrong.  For example, in the
statement

Access-list 1 permit 209.100.100.64 0.0.0.63

All you are doing is permitting hosts with addresses in the range of
209.100.100.64 through 209.100.100.127 You may make assumptions about the
subnet mask associated with 209.100.100.64, but you might be wrong. That
access-list is valid, and matches that range of hosts, whether the subnet
mask is 255.255.255.0, 255.255.255.192, 255.255.0.0, 255.0.0.0, or
255.248.0.0  for that matter.  The mask is merely the means the router CPU
uses to easily match bits, using Boolean logic.

Well, enough ranting. Got things to do and wives to please. Enjoy the rest
of this deliciously long weekend.

Chuck

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Subject:RE: Subnet Question

It is true in regard of wild-cards.

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Chuck,

Just tried it on a 3662 with IOS 12.1T and it didn't work.

Rotuer(config-if)#ip address 10.1.1.1 0.255.255.0
Bad mask 0x00 for address 10.1.1.1

Too bad, it would had made a interesting trouble-shooting lab.

Albert

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I hate questions like this. Can, May, Always, Never.

RFC 1812 strongly discourages this practice.

On the other hand, the world won't end if you do. You may even create a
permanent income for yourself by setting up your network like this. ;- All
the TCP stacks I have worked with allow this on the host side. It occurs to
me I've never tried this on a Cisco router, even after the long discussion
on the topic a few months ago. Next time I'm in the routers, I'll see what
happens and report.

Chuck

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Subject:Subnet Question

Question taken from the CCNA Exam Cram book by Walters, Rees, and Coe.

A subnet mask can have a value of 0.255.255.0

A) True
B) False

The Cisco answer would dictate that it is false, and in all functionality it
is true. Hypothetically though it could be true, I rememeber this discusion
a while ago, but I'm looking to see if I am smoking the proverbial crack.

Thanks all!

Aaron Moreau-Cook
Finally taking his CCNA test this coming Friday

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Re: Multicast adrressing: ip to Mac

2000-09-04 Thread Daniel Boutet

You are absoklutly right. There is no errata because I have also checked.
What I meant to say is a typo or an error!
Sorry for the confusion.

""Daniel Boutet"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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 ok ok ok!!! some of you might think that I was in left field. I think I
know
 where I went wrong.
 I am mixing the 48-bit ethernet address with the conversion process. Let
me
 explain:

 I was adding a full "half octet field" 01:00:5e:0 when it is actually just
 one bit (0) from the ethernet address. Group of four bits to convert from
 binary to hex.

 I actually discover this by replying to my own question.
 Sorry for using valuable thread!
 Should of tried to understand before asking!



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  I wanted to add that there is also an errata to the figure 8-5 page 294
of
  the BCMSN book by Karen Webb
  The 48-bit ethernet address should read:
 
   0001   0101 1110 0  which converts to 01:00:5e This
 leaves
  23 bit that can be matched to the Ip Multicast least-significant
  23 bits.
 
 
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   I am studying for the switching exam and I am converting ip multicast
   address to ethernet addresses.
   What i don't get is that they state in the Cisco press book (page
 294/295)
   "the least 23 least significant bits of the ip multicast group are
  place
   into the frame..."
   "half of the ethernet block 01:00:5e:00:00:00 to 01:00:5e:7f:ff:ff
   correspond to ip multicast"
  
   I really only use twenty when I am converting from binary to hex.
  
   Scenario:  224.138.8.5 (to use their example)
   1110  1000 1010  1000  0101
   01:00:5e:0A:08:05
  
   Since the 01:00:5e:0 are always going to be,  then I am only concerned
  with
   the least significant 20. Is this right?
  
   I did their exercise on page 319/320  and got 100% (their is an errata
 for
   one of the address but it is a decimal to binary error) but I did not
   use the 01:00:5e:0 as the base but 01:00:5e:
  
   Thanks!
  
  
  
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Re: CCDA,failed...

2000-09-04 Thread GNOME
Title: passed CCDA yesterday !!!



study the CCDA Exam Certification Guide. It is a great help to 
me as alot of info are from there

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  i failed CCDA this afternoon with a score of 
  679.
  i've never seen the questions before.
  question exp: the three ptotocols for 
  SDLC:
  802.2,QLLC,SIP,HDLC..
  how can i know that?
  
  i need your help really!!!
  
  
  sadly TONY


RE: Washington DC/Northern Virginia CCNP/CCIE Study Group?

2000-09-04 Thread m. jean stockton

Cynthia/Brian D;

I live in NW DC and would love to get together for a ccnp study group.
Email me privately, if you would like the get one organized ASAP.

Thanks


Makeeda

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No.  But if you do not find one, lets start one.



œ
"...to hell with what other people think, I'm ridin' my own broom!" L. M.

Cynthia Bridgett, raised in SE DC
   and proud of it!
CCNA, MCSE, CNE, CNA, MCP, A+

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I am looking for a Washington DC/Northern Virginia CCNP/CCIE Study Group.
Anyone out there have some info?


Thanks!

Brian D.


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Re: Dialer Interface * VERY URGENT *

2000-09-04 Thread JEK

The  dialer in-band  has to be in the config if your the one that's
doing
the dialing.This command indicates that this is the interface that will
be
doing the dialing.Not only that; but the  dial wait-for-carrier-time
XX 
indicates that it will wait up to 60 seconds for the interface to basically
receive
DCD from the interface that is associated with the Dialer / BRI interface
and
it will then do the dialing depending on how quick it receives DCD.Hope
this helps.Easiest thing to do is to go to www.cisco.com and do a look
up
on ISDN or just do a find on Dial Cookbook and this will help out.

-JEK-


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 Hi all,
   I have installed a 2503 router for ISDN dial back for a leased
line.The
 vendor who configured it has included the following commands in the dilaer
 interface .

 (1) #dialer in-band

 and

 (2) #dialer wait-for-carrier-time 60

 Since the above commands should not be used for ISDN i removed
them .
 But when I saved the new config and saw the file,the following commands
were
 also missing fom the dialer interface which was there previously :
 #dialer idle-timeout
 #dialer string x Class xx
 #dilaer hold-queue xx
 #dialer load-threshold xxx either
 #dialer-group x

and the only commands which were present from the previous config
were
 :
 #ip address negotiate
 #no ip directed-broadcast
 #encapsulation ppp
 #ppp authentication pap callin
 #ppp pap sent-user  password 

 Can anyone provide a solution for the above

  Thanks in advance


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Re: Printer

2000-09-04 Thread Amjad Afana

Thanks for your reply guys. Yes there is connectivity. This is how I was able to
add the printer port to Windows 2000 (TCP/IP Port). Anywasy The printer is an HP
Deskjet 970 ( I believe). I have also noticted the following:

router 2  has IOS V12 and router has IOS 11.x.  Looks like each IOS has
different defaults. The V12 had the "No directed broadcast" by default, so I
enabled that for now. I also added IP Helper-address statements to each ethernet
interface on each router to use directed broadcast into the other segment, ie,
on router1's e0 (10.1.1.17) I used the  ip helper 15.255.255.255, and on
router2's e0 (15.1.1.17) I used the helper address 10.255.255.255.

Printing on the local segment is okay. I also tried to use the Network Monitor
that ships with Win2K and capture packets while printing from the local segment.
I thought maybe it would show the port used, but it does not.

David Williams wrote:

 Okay, you've got connectivity, but TCP/IP printing often involves port
 numbers.
 What is your printer model? Port assignments vary from manufacturer to
 manufacturer. Apple LaserWriters configure differently than Xerox DocuPrint
 printers. Check your documentation.
 By far the easiest config I've managed to work (and I work with mixed
 Windows/98/NT and Mac OS environments) is to enable TCP/IP printing through
 the NT server, use LPR and assign requisite drivers and port assignments. I
 can't imagine that W2K is much different.
 Another question: can you print on a local segment from the W2K server? Try
 it

 ""Amjad M. Afana"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
 8p03nu$bir$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8p03nu$bir$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  From Router2 (Different Segment as the print server is concerned) and my
  print server is 10.1.1.5
 
  Welcome. Router 2524
 
 
  User Access Verification
 
  Password:
  r2524en
  Password:
  r2524#ping 10.1.1.5
 
  Type escape sequence to abort.
  Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 10.1.1.5, timeout is 2 seconds:
  !
  Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max = 4/12/36 ms
  r2524#
 
  --
 --
  --
  From Router1 ( on same segment)
 
  WelcomeWelcome.  Router 2514
 
  User Access Verification
 
  Password:
  r2514en
  Password:
  r2514#ping 10.1.1.5
 
  Type escape sequence to abort.
  Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 10.1.1.5, timeout is 2 seconds:
  !
  Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max = 4/4/4 ms
  r2514#
 
  --
 --
  From Windows 2000 Server ( on the far segment)
 
  E:\Documents and Settings\Administratoripconfig/all
 
  Windows 2000 IP Configuration
 
  Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : sbo2000
  Primary DNS Suffix  . . . . . . . : test.com
  Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
  IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
  WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
  DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : test.com
 
  Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
 
  Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
  Description . . . . . . . . . . . : LNE100TX Fast Ethernet Adapter
  Versi
  on 1.0
  Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-A0-CC-22-F9-DD
  DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
  IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 15.1.1.1
  Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.0.0.0
  Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 15.1.1.17
  DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 15.1.1.1
 
  E:\Documents and Settings\Administratorping 10.1.1.5
 
  Pinging 10.1.1.5 with 32 bytes of data:
 
  Reply from 10.1.1.5: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=58
  Reply from 10.1.1.5: bytes=32 time10ms TTL=58
  Reply from 10.1.1.5: bytes=32 time10ms TTL=58
  Reply from 10.1.1.5: bytes=32 time10ms TTL=58
 
  Ping statistics for 10.1.1.5:
  Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
  Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
  Minimum = 0ms, Maximum =  10ms, Average =  2ms
 
  E:\Documents and Settings\Administrator
 
 
 
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  [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   Ping the print server from the 2000 and from each router in between.
 Post
   your results here.
  
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Amjad M. Afana [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2000 9:00 PM
   Subject: Printer
  
  
I have network printer in one segment and wanted to print to it from
   remote
computers across a router (2 hops away). The printer is attached to an
   Intel
EtherExpress Pro 100 box and is configured to use TCP/IP printing. I
 was
able to install the printer on a remote Windows 2000 server, but could
  not
print. I thought maybe I have to use some IP Forward statements on my
   router
(2500 series) but I am not sure what kind of IP or port number 

RE: Quick Remedial Subnetting Theory (not hard I swear)...

2000-09-04 Thread Albert Ip

Phil,

May I give one small suggestion.  Don't do it in decimal form.  Use the
binary form.  This is the safest way and the easiest way. (some people will
disagree) I will show you how to do it fast and easy.

I do this before every exam that subnetting/supernetting may come up.

On a piece of paper, put in two roll of numbers

  192  224  240  248  252  254  255
128   64   32   168421


Now lets do your question.  
You need 10 + 1 = 11 IP address.  Look at the second roll of numbers to see
where 11 fall between.  To the left is 16.  16 -2 is 14 which is available
IP address for the mask of 240 (which is right on top of 16).

Now is the hard part. Under the second roll of number, put in the 0 and 1's
for the network.

  192  224  240  248  252  254  255
128   64   32   168421
 0 000xxxx
 0 001
 0 010
 0 011
 0 101
and so on.

By looking at the binary, you will be able to see all the valid range really
fast and correct.

Remember, all the IP address, subnet mask, wide card mask, supernetting are
binary.  IF you do your math in binary, you don't have to worry about
conversion mistakes.

BTW.  if you get a question on subnetting, remember that to use your first
range of 1-15, you need to have subnet 0 in the config.

I hope this help.

Albert 
  



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From: Circusnuts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 5:01 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Quick Remedial Subnetting Theory (not hard I swear)...


I broke out the CCNA book, to practice readings for a couple of up  coming
interviews (this week).  Here is what I have forgotten :-)  OK- I can
calculate the mask (no issues here), but I cannot logically figure out how I
would start the host addressing.  Case in point (bare with me, this all
looks s familiar it might just set back in while writing this :-)

192.16.12.0 is my given class C

I need 10 users (hosts- 11 counting the Ethernet Interface)

So this means I must take 2 to the 4th (16-2= 14 usable) on the mask side 
that leaves me with 2 to the 4th on the Host addressing side (same 14
usable).

How to I proceed with the first to last IP's available... i.e.

My nature tendency, it to look @ things this way...
192.16.12._ to _, does this mean I am now in the 16's if I recall.
192.16.12.1 thru 15, 192.16.12.16 thru 31, 192.16.12.32 thru 63, etc...

The book I have (full of typo's) starts with a 192.16.12.144 as the first
address...

Hope this is not too confusing...
Thanks All !!!
Phil


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Quick Remedial Subnetting Theory (not hard I swear).

2000-09-04 Thread Scott

At 11:01 AM 9/4/2000 -0100, you wrote:
I broke out the CCNA book, to practice readings for a couple of up  coming
interviews (this week).

comments in line

192.16.12.0 is my given class C

I need 10 users (hosts- 11 counting the Ethernet Interface)

So this means I must take 2 to the 4th (16-2= 14 usable) on the mask side 
that leaves me with 2 to the 4th on the Host addressing side (same 14
usable).

So far, so good.


How to I proceed with the first to last IP's available... i.e.

My nature tendency, it to look @ things this way...
192.16.12._ to _, does this mean I am now in the 16's if I recall.
192.16.12.1 thru 15, 192.16.12.16 thru 31, 192.16.12.32 thru 63, etc...


You now have a subnet mask of 255.255.255.240
To find the first host addie, subtract from 256.  ( or take the number of 
0's in the new mask and do 2^x, in this case 2^4=16.
256-240 = 16.  First network ID is 192.16.12.16   It'll now be in 
increments of sixteen, so next subnet is 192.16.12.32,  192.16.12.48, etc.
First host ID is 192.16.12.17 and broadcast is 192.16.12.31---second subnet,
the .32 one first host is 33 and broadcast is 47.

Most people on the list would find the following too simplified, but when I 
was first trying to figure out subnetting for the MCSE TCP/IP exam, I put 
my simplified explanation on the web--it's simply how to do it, more or 
less ignoring the why.  It's at
http://www.bansen.com/neko/subnet.html

HTH
Scott

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Questions on CCIE lab

2000-09-04 Thread Sharad

Hi Friends

I have a couple of questions about the CCIE lab tests.
1) How is the Frame relay cloud simulated in the exam. Are we asked to used
a Cisco router as a FR switch or is it  a Frame relay simulator
2) Do we have to use actual CSU/DSU's for point to point connections? Or is
it all done with Crossover cables ?

Please let me know
Thanks

SV

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Re: Quick Remedial Subnetting Theory (not hard I swear)...

2000-09-04 Thread rick



Here is how i remember the host range, this is a quote from
a Cisco text (I dont remember which one since i made a
flash card of the info)

"Once you have computed the subnet mask to figure the valid
subnets use the  formula
256 - subnet mask = 1st net."

Exp: 4 subnets needed:
 mask would be 1110  = 224
 256 - 224 = 32 = first useable net

so that gives net address = 32, 1st host = 33, last host =
62, broadcast = 63.

Hope this helps
Rick



On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Circusnuts wrote:

Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 11:01:14 -0100
From: Circusnuts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Quick Remedial Subnetting Theory (not hard I swear)...

I broke out the CCNA book, to practice readings for a couple of up  coming
interviews (this week).  Here is what I have forgotten :-)  OK- I can
calculate the mask (no issues here), but I cannot logically figure out how I
would start the host addressing.  Case in point (bare with me, this all
looks s familiar it might just set back in while writing this :-)

192.16.12.0 is my given class C

I need 10 users (hosts- 11 counting the Ethernet Interface)

So this means I must take 2 to the 4th (16-2= 14 usable) on the mask side 
that leaves me with 2 to the 4th on the Host addressing side (same 14
usable).

How to I proceed with the first to last IP's available... i.e.

My nature tendency, it to look @ things this way...
192.16.12._ to _, does this mean I am now in the 16's if I recall.
192.16.12.1 thru 15, 192.16.12.16 thru 31, 192.16.12.32 thru 63, etc...

The book I have (full of typo's) starts with a 192.16.12.144 as the first
address...

Hope this is not too confusing...
Thanks All !!!
Phil


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Re: Printer

2000-09-04 Thread David Williams

Looks like it has a named port. Do any of these look familiar?
LPT1_PASSTHRU for most jobs (use this for Internal models or for printing
devices on port 1 of the external model)
LPT2_PASSTHRU for most jobs
COM1_PASSTHRU for most jobs
LPT1_TEXT for jobs that need to have a CR added to LF's (use for Internal
models)
LPT2_TEXT for jobs that need to have a CR added to LF's
COM1_TEXT for jobs that need to have a CR added to LF's

"Amjad Afana" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Thanks for your reply guys. Yes there is connectivity. This is how I was
able to
 add the printer port to Windows 2000 (TCP/IP Port). Anywasy The printer is
an HP
 Deskjet 970 ( I believe). I have also noticted the following:

 router 2  has IOS V12 and router has IOS 11.x.  Looks like each IOS has
 different defaults. The V12 had the "No directed broadcast" by default, so
I
 enabled that for now. I also added IP Helper-address statements to each
ethernet
 interface on each router to use directed broadcast into the other segment,
ie,
 on router1's e0 (10.1.1.17) I used the  ip helper 15.255.255.255, and on
 router2's e0 (15.1.1.17) I used the helper address 10.255.255.255.

 Printing on the local segment is okay. I also tried to use the Network
Monitor
 that ships with Win2K and capture packets while printing from the local
segment.
 I thought maybe it would show the port used, but it does not.

 David Williams wrote:

  Okay, you've got connectivity, but TCP/IP printing often involves port
  numbers.
  What is your printer model? Port assignments vary from manufacturer to
  manufacturer. Apple LaserWriters configure differently than Xerox
DocuPrint
  printers. Check your documentation.
  By far the easiest config I've managed to work (and I work with mixed
  Windows/98/NT and Mac OS environments) is to enable TCP/IP printing
through
  the NT server, use LPR and assign requisite drivers and port
assignments. I
  can't imagine that W2K is much different.
  Another question: can you print on a local segment from the W2K server?
Try
  it
 
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  8p03nu$bir$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8p03nu$bir$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   From Router2 (Different Segment as the print server is concerned) and
my
   print server is 10.1.1.5
  
   Welcome. Router 2524
  
  
   User Access Verification
  
   Password:
   r2524en
   Password:
   r2524#ping 10.1.1.5
  
   Type escape sequence to abort.
   Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 10.1.1.5, timeout is 2 seconds:
   !
   Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max = 4/12/36 ms
   r2524#
  
 
 --
  --
   --
   From Router1 ( on same segment)
  
   WelcomeWelcome.  Router 2514
  
   User Access Verification
  
   Password:
   r2514en
   Password:
   r2514#ping 10.1.1.5
  
   Type escape sequence to abort.
   Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 10.1.1.5, timeout is 2 seconds:
   !
   Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max = 4/4/4 ms
   r2514#
  
 
 --
  --
   From Windows 2000 Server ( on the far segment)
  
   E:\Documents and Settings\Administratoripconfig/all
  
   Windows 2000 IP Configuration
  
   Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : sbo2000
   Primary DNS Suffix  . . . . . . . : test.com
   Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
   IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
   WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
   DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : test.com
  
   Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
  
   Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
   Description . . . . . . . . . . . : LNE100TX Fast Ethernet
Adapter
   Versi
   on 1.0
   Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-A0-CC-22-F9-DD
   DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
   IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 15.1.1.1
   Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.0.0.0
   Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 15.1.1.17
   DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 15.1.1.1
  
   E:\Documents and Settings\Administratorping 10.1.1.5
  
   Pinging 10.1.1.5 with 32 bytes of data:
  
   Reply from 10.1.1.5: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=58
   Reply from 10.1.1.5: bytes=32 time10ms TTL=58
   Reply from 10.1.1.5: bytes=32 time10ms TTL=58
   Reply from 10.1.1.5: bytes=32 time10ms TTL=58
  
   Ping statistics for 10.1.1.5:
   Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
   Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
   Minimum = 0ms, Maximum =  10ms, Average =  2ms
  
   E:\Documents and Settings\Administrator
  
  
  
   ""whatshakin"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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Ping the print server from the 2000 and from each router in between.
  Post
your results here.
   
   
- Original Message -

Re: Printer

2000-09-04 Thread David Williams

Also, can you browse to the server from a remote workstation?

"Amjad Afana" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Thanks for your reply guys. Yes there is connectivity. This is how I was
able to
 add the printer port to Windows 2000 (TCP/IP Port). Anywasy The printer is
an HP
 Deskjet 970 ( I believe). I have also noticted the following:

 router 2  has IOS V12 and router has IOS 11.x.  Looks like each IOS has
 different defaults. The V12 had the "No directed broadcast" by default, so
I
 enabled that for now. I also added IP Helper-address statements to each
ethernet
 interface on each router to use directed broadcast into the other segment,
ie,
 on router1's e0 (10.1.1.17) I used the  ip helper 15.255.255.255, and on
 router2's e0 (15.1.1.17) I used the helper address 10.255.255.255.

 Printing on the local segment is okay. I also tried to use the Network
Monitor
 that ships with Win2K and capture packets while printing from the local
segment.
 I thought maybe it would show the port used, but it does not.

 David Williams wrote:

  Okay, you've got connectivity, but TCP/IP printing often involves port
  numbers.
  What is your printer model? Port assignments vary from manufacturer to
  manufacturer. Apple LaserWriters configure differently than Xerox
DocuPrint
  printers. Check your documentation.
  By far the easiest config I've managed to work (and I work with mixed
  Windows/98/NT and Mac OS environments) is to enable TCP/IP printing
through
  the NT server, use LPR and assign requisite drivers and port
assignments. I
  can't imagine that W2K is much different.
  Another question: can you print on a local segment from the W2K server?
Try
  it
 
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   From Router2 (Different Segment as the print server is concerned) and
my
   print server is 10.1.1.5
  
   Welcome. Router 2524
  
  
   User Access Verification
  
   Password:
   r2524en
   Password:
   r2524#ping 10.1.1.5
  
   Type escape sequence to abort.
   Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 10.1.1.5, timeout is 2 seconds:
   !
   Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max = 4/12/36 ms
   r2524#
  
 
 --
  --
   --
   From Router1 ( on same segment)
  
   WelcomeWelcome.  Router 2514
  
   User Access Verification
  
   Password:
   r2514en
   Password:
   r2514#ping 10.1.1.5
  
   Type escape sequence to abort.
   Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 10.1.1.5, timeout is 2 seconds:
   !
   Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max = 4/4/4 ms
   r2514#
  
 
 --
  --
   From Windows 2000 Server ( on the far segment)
  
   E:\Documents and Settings\Administratoripconfig/all
  
   Windows 2000 IP Configuration
  
   Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : sbo2000
   Primary DNS Suffix  . . . . . . . : test.com
   Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
   IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
   WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
   DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : test.com
  
   Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
  
   Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
   Description . . . . . . . . . . . : LNE100TX Fast Ethernet
Adapter
   Versi
   on 1.0
   Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-A0-CC-22-F9-DD
   DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
   IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 15.1.1.1
   Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.0.0.0
   Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 15.1.1.17
   DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 15.1.1.1
  
   E:\Documents and Settings\Administratorping 10.1.1.5
  
   Pinging 10.1.1.5 with 32 bytes of data:
  
   Reply from 10.1.1.5: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=58
   Reply from 10.1.1.5: bytes=32 time10ms TTL=58
   Reply from 10.1.1.5: bytes=32 time10ms TTL=58
   Reply from 10.1.1.5: bytes=32 time10ms TTL=58
  
   Ping statistics for 10.1.1.5:
   Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
   Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
   Minimum = 0ms, Maximum =  10ms, Average =  2ms
  
   E:\Documents and Settings\Administrator
  
  
  
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Ping the print server from the 2000 and from each router in between.
  Post
your results here.
   
   
- Original Message -
From: Amjad M. Afana [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2000 9:00 PM
Subject: Printer
   
   
 I have network printer in one segment and wanted to print to it
from
remote
 computers across a router (2 hops away). The printer is attached
to an
Intel
 EtherExpress Pro 

Re: CCDA,failed...

2000-09-04 Thread Dale Cantrell

The Cisco Press CCDA Certification Guide by Bruno and KIM, is great study
for the exam, and the only book I have for that exam. But as far as 
answering Tony's SDLC question, there is a half a sentence reference to
SDLC on page 535, total. For the answer to his particular question I had to 
look in Internetworking Technologies Handbook. The three protocols would be 
802.2, HDLC, and QLLC, pages 215-222. Looks like something that someone on 
the SNA/IP CCIE track would have to be into heavy, or at least
familiar with for CCIE R. SW.
HTHs
Dale

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Subject: Re: CCDA,failed...
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 23:50:44 +0800

passed CCDA yesterday !!!study the CCDA Exam Certification Guide. It is a 
great help to me as alot of info are from there
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   i failed CCDA this afternoon with a score of 679.
   i've never seen the questions before.
   question exp: the three ptotocols for SDLC:
   802.2,QLLC,SIP,HDLC..
   how can i know that?

   i need your help really!!!


   sadly TONY

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Re: Printer

2000-09-04 Thread Chuck Church

Amjad,

MS's IP printing relies on LPR on the workstation/server and LPD on the
print server itself.  When you install the printer, Windows will check for a
response from the printer on the LPD port - TCP 515.  Make sure you're using
a valid queue name - usually 'raw' or 'auto' works, but check with the Print
server docs.  Check your NT/2000 event viewer - Application for errors.
Make sure your server does not have a space in the name.  This seems to make
LPR fail, from a WS I worked on last week.  Neither MS nor Xerox had an
explanation.  Typical MS problem...

Chuck Church
Network Engineer
CCNP, MCNE, MCSE
Magnacom Technologies
140 Route 303
Valley Cottage, NY 10989
Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: 914 267-4000 ext 218
Fax:   914 267-1034

I have network printer in one segment and wanted to print to it from remote
computers across a router (2 hops away). The printer is attached to an
Intel
EtherExpress Pro 100 box and is configured to use TCP/IP printing.

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CCNP study Group in Dubai, UAE

2000-09-04 Thread Naveen Sharma




Dear friends,

Any study group active in Dubai. 
Please respond.

Best regards

Naveen


Re: Questions on CCIE lab

2000-09-04 Thread Cthulu, CCIE Candidate

Maybe!  Maybe not!

Check out:
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/certifications/routing.html#4




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 Hi Friends

 I have a couple of questions about the CCIE lab tests.
 1) How is the Frame relay cloud simulated in the exam. Are we asked to
used
 a Cisco router as a FR switch or is it  a Frame relay simulator
 2) Do we have to use actual CSU/DSU's for point to point connections? Or
is
 it all done with Crossover cables ?

 Please let me know
 Thanks

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Free copy of Telecom Networking Glossary

2000-09-04 Thread ABDUL RAZZAQ








Hello there

Just a quick note
to give you some free offer from CISCO. Try the link below



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take a small e-tour
 get the free offer. Sign in for the book as a Guest.

If you run into any
problem shoot me a e-mail.

PS: There is also a
special web cast, Cisco AVVID (Architecture for Voice, Video and Integrated
Data) Communications Solutions on September 11, 2000. You must register at

Ciscowebseminars.com/avvidweb3 before attending

Date: September 11, 2000

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Enjoy



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Re: EIGRP - Stuck in active state ?

2000-09-04 Thread Chris McCoy

Phil,

  You may try putting a summary-address statement on the Ethernet interface
of the access server that summarizes all dialup users into one /26 that
you've designated. The syntax is 'ip summary-address eigrp [a.s.] [network]
[summary-mask]'.  Whenever the remote /32 disappears, and the EIGRP process
sends out Queries to neighbors, the neighbors will immediately answer back
with no feasible successors, since they only have the /26 and not the more
specific /32.

  I hope this helps.

  Chris McCoy

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From: "Phil Barker" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "cisco GroupStudy" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 3:00 AM
Subject: EIGRP - Stuck in active state ?


 Hi gang,
   I have a problem where some routes are getting
 SIA. Could anyone help out with a sanity check on my
 logic here ?

   I have a number of remote users that are coming
 in via a crappy AS5200. They are getting into the
 routing table with /32 bit masks, however, the remote
 network has been designated a /26 bit mask. Since the
 remote users are effectively hub  spoke there is no
 feasible successor when the remote user switches off
 and hence DUAL is kicked off every time ... NASTY
 .

Now, my question is how come the users are
 infiltrating the EIGRP table with a 32 bit mask ? when
 they have been defined on a 26 bit network ?

I think that the answer lies in the fact that
 the AS5200 hasn't got "ip subnet-zero" configured and
 an example of a remote user is 137.89.99.33/26 (ip
 address changed for security purposes). This is using
 the zero subnet.

So, does this make sense that the AS5200 on not
 being able to distinguish the network from the node
 portion introduces the address as a /32 ?

 This is quite an issue for me currently since
 if I am correct in my analysis then it is the AS5200
 that will invoke DUAL and since its a pile of crap
 that runs at 85% CPU utilisation it sometimes is not
 able to deal with the replies and so other more
 important networks also get SIA.

 Any comments would be greatly appreciated.


 Phil.



 
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Modem port on the Router

2000-09-04 Thread Oscar Rau

There are 2 serial interfaces on my Cisco2600. There is also a asynchronous
port on the Cisco too. In the "interfaces" section, they are declared as

interface Serial0/0
interface Serial0/1
interface Async75

From the software config, without looking at the HW box, how can I identify
the modem interface on the router. The Serial0/0 and Async65 interfaces do have
ip addresses on them. There is nothing defined for the Serial0/1 interface. 

The "line aux 0" has one item,

speed 128000

Which one of these is the modem interface to the router?

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CCIE Book List

2000-09-04 Thread Raymond Smith




Hey guys, I am about to embark upon some CCIEPrepwork for the CCIE 
written and would like to know how many of the books listed from the 
"recommended reading list" on the cisco. com web site are 'a must have' in 
preparation for the exam. I need to know which are the best ones to get, 
because I understand that some of them are not very helpful. Your 411 will 
be greatly appreciated ..Peace!


Ray


Config-reg

2000-09-04 Thread Cbridgett

I changed my configuration register to something stupid 0x0102 and now my
router will not boot.  Is there anyway I can change the config register.  I
cannot enter through rommon, it will not take any break key combinations.
Maybe a jumper on the board???



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Question regarding CCNA

2000-09-04 Thread JimmyL

I just started studying CCNA, can i get some advice?? what should i be focus
on when i study?

thx


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Cisco dumps

2000-09-04 Thread CCxx Infomation

Does anyone have any links to some good Cisco dump
sites?

I found one here www.sasaschool.com/cisco


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Port storm-control

2000-09-04 Thread Kevin Welch



I am playing around 
with a switch and looking at the storm-control feature. I cannot seem to 
find any reference on what good values are for thresholds to indicate a 
broadcast storm. I am currently using 200 broadcasts per second and I 
think thats about right, but I would like to know what the rest of you 
think.

Thanks, 


-- Kevin 
Welch


Re: Modem port on the Router

2000-09-04 Thread Dale Cantrell

Hey Oscar,
Anytime I see asyncr... anything, I think of modem. It just works for me
that way. Looking on the Product guick reference guide booklet, there is 
only one fixed WAN port on any 2600, and it's asynch. That's your modem
interface. By looking at the WAN interface cards available, I see that you 
can have 2 or 4 serial ports on a card. So I'm guessing you have a 2600 with 
one WIC 2 serial ports--S0/0 and S0/1.  Why it says Asynch75 or
65, I don't know.
Dale

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To: Cisco GroupStudy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Modem port on the Router
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 15:57:32 +

There are 2 serial interfaces on my Cisco2600. There is also a asynchronous
port on the Cisco too. In the "interfaces" section, they are declared as

interface Serial0/0
interface Serial0/1
interface Async75

From the software config, without looking at the HW box, how can I identify
the modem interface on the router. The Serial0/0 and Async65 interfaces do 
have
ip addresses on them. There is nothing defined for the Serial0/1 interface.

The "line aux 0" has one item,

speed 128000

Which one of these is the modem interface to the router?

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Re: Port storm-control

2000-09-04 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

"Kevin Welch" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

A broadcast frame takes up the same bandwidth as any other frame of 
the same length.  The urban legend that "broadcasts consume 
bandwidth" really refers to broadcast storms, so you are looking at 
the correct problem.

A NetBEUI host that sends seven name resolution broadcasts when one 
would do is taking up the bandwidth that would be associated with 
seven more rational hosts.

The more common effect of broadcasts is that they impact the CPU of 
all hosts that hear them.  CID has some old figures showing the 
effect of 10 Mbps broadcasts on a Sparc 2 host.

 100 per second  3% CPU
1000 per second 25% CPU
3800 per second Host OS crashed

I am playing around with a switch and looking at the storm-control 
feature.  I cannot seem to find any reference on what good values 
are for thresholds to indicate a broadcast storm.  I am currently 
using 200 broadcasts per second and I think thats about right, but I 
would like to know what the rest of you think.


The more hosts in a broadcast domain, the greater the effect of a 
broadcast storm can be.  Remember that a storm on one host can 
trigger storms on others.  Without a huge amount of science behind 
it, I use about 500 per second as a basic value, but 200 is certainly 
within reason.

Setting it too low, if you have something like NetBEUI, can interfere 
with operations.

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Re: Dialer Interface * VERY URGENT *

2000-09-04 Thread michael champion

As far as I know, Native ISDN does not support callback. Therefore, you
can't use callback with the normal LAP-D signaling over the D-channel
(out-of-band signaling). You must use PPP (or ARAP if an Appletalk network)
which uses in-band signaling. The "dialer in-band" is required. Look at both
at the physical interface and the dialer interface and you will probably see
"encap ppp", "ppp callback", callback-secure", etc.

JMHO

Regards,
MLC

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 Hi all,
   I have installed a 2503 router for ISDN dial back for a leased
line.The
 vendor who configured it has included the following commands in the dilaer
 interface .

 (1) #dialer in-band

 and

 (2) #dialer wait-for-carrier-time 60

 Since the above commands should not be used for ISDN i removed
them .
 But when I saved the new config and saw the file,the following commands
were
 also missing fom the dialer interface which was there previously :
 #dialer idle-timeout
 #dialer string x Class xx
 #dilaer hold-queue xx
 #dialer load-threshold xxx either
 #dialer-group x

and the only commands which were present from the previous config
were
 :
 #ip address negotiate
 #no ip directed-broadcast
 #encapsulation ppp
 #ppp authentication pap callin
 #ppp pap sent-user  password 

 Can anyone provide a solution for the above

  Thanks in advance


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RE: Port storm-control

2000-09-04 Thread Kevin Welch

I am actually trying to prevent problems from occuring... I had a situation
that was work related that has caused me to rethink the need to make sure
that broadcasts are kept in check.  I had a localdirector connected to a
switch and I had two of the localdirector ports connected to the same vlan
due to a misread on the design.  Now I had 4 localdirectors setup this way,
each generated approximately 40 MBits/sec of ARP requests.  This actually
managed to take down the MSFC on the 6509 that was trunked to my 3548.  It
was actually fairly interesting, and I have learned quite a bit as a result
of this, but I am actually trying to lab a similar setup and properly filter
broadcasts to keep this from happening again...  I guess in effect I have
answered my own question... I need to determine the most appropriate number
of broadcasts based on my network.

Just a tip for those of you who get to play with localdirectors... I wouldnt
recommend hooking up two inside ports on the same vlan, unless you like arp
storms.

-- Kevin


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 Howard C. Berkowitz
 Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 4:08 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Port storm-control


 "Kevin Welch" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

 A broadcast frame takes up the same bandwidth as any other frame of
 the same length.  The urban legend that "broadcasts consume
 bandwidth" really refers to broadcast storms, so you are looking at
 the correct problem.

 A NetBEUI host that sends seven name resolution broadcasts when one
 would do is taking up the bandwidth that would be associated with
 seven more rational hosts.

 The more common effect of broadcasts is that they impact the CPU of
 all hosts that hear them.  CID has some old figures showing the
 effect of 10 Mbps broadcasts on a Sparc 2 host.

  100 per second  3% CPU
 1000 per second 25% CPU
 3800 per second Host OS crashed

 I am playing around with a switch and looking at the storm-control
 feature.  I cannot seem to find any reference on what good values
 are for thresholds to indicate a broadcast storm.  I am currently
 using 200 broadcasts per second and I think thats about right, but I
 would like to know what the rest of you think.
 

 The more hosts in a broadcast domain, the greater the effect of a
 broadcast storm can be.  Remember that a storm on one host can
 trigger storms on others.  Without a huge amount of science behind
 it, I use about 500 per second as a basic value, but 200 is certainly
 within reason.

 Setting it too low, if you have something like NetBEUI, can interfere
 with operations.

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RE: Subnet Question

2000-09-04 Thread jenny . mcleod



Chuck wrote...
[Lots snipped]

Well, enough ranting. Got things to do and wives to please. Enjoy the rest
of this deliciously long weekend.

Chuck


Sorry, I can't resist asking... how many wives is that, and are they all
yours???

And slightly more on track, 11.2(17) on a 4700 and 2514 won't accept 'non
standard' subnet masks either.  Anyone got any earlier IOS versions to try - did
IOS *ever* accept dodgy masks?  We've finally got rid of the last of our 10.3
dinosaurs so I can't check that :-)

JMcL



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set ip default-route?

2000-09-04 Thread Yee, Jason

hi , 

anyone knows what is the use of set ip default-route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0


Jason

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high speed internet access over satellite dish?

2000-09-04 Thread Yee, Jason

hi , 

Anyone got any knowledge on establishing high speed internet access over
satellite dish?

thanks b4 hand

Jason

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[ISDN]cann't ping sites outside

2000-09-04 Thread Hai Xu

Hi,

My friend built a network like:

   [Inside Lan192.168.1.0/24]---cisco2620---ISDN--[Outside]

When he ping sites outside, the first packet can reach, but the
packets follow will fail to go out. The records in NAT table is:

inside global 61.133.134.148:256
inside local 192.168.1.1:256
outside local 202.108.41.2:256
outside global 202.108.41.2:256




I cann't help him. So I ask 
help here.  


His configure file is:

service timestamps debug uptime
service timestamps log uptime
service password-encryption
no service tcp-small-servers
no service udp-small-servers
hostname c2620
!
enable password 54jfdj
!
no ip name-server
!
isdn switch-type basic-5ess
!
ip subnet-zero
no ip domain-lookup
ip routing
!
interface Dialer 1
description connected to Internet
ip address negotiated
ip nat outside
no ip split-horizon
encapsulation ppp
dialer in-band
dialer idle-timeout 300
dialer string 163
dialer hold-queue 10
dialer-group 1
ppp authentication chap pap callin
ppp chap hostname "163"
ppp chap password "163"
ppp pap sent-username "163" password "163"
ppp multilink
no cdp enable
!
interface Ethernet 0
no shutdown
description connected to EthernetLAN
ip address 192.168.1.254
ip nat inside
keepalive 10
!
interface BRI 0
no shutdown
description connected to Internet
no ip address
ip nat outside
dialer rotary-group 1
!
!
! Dialer Control List 1
!
dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit
!
! Dynamic NAT
!

ip nat translation timeout 86400
ip nat translation tcp-timeout 86400
ip nat translation udp-timeout 300
ip nat translation dns-timeout 60
ip nat translation finrst-timeout 60
ip nat inside source list 1 interface Dialer 1 overload
!
router rip
version 2
network 192.168.1.0
passive-interface Dialer 1
no auto-summary
!
!
ip classless
!
! IP Static Routes
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 Dialer 1
no ip http server
snmp-server community public RO
no snmp-server location
no snmp-server contact
!



Xu,Hai  CCNA
Network Center, SysAdmin
Univ. of Sci.  Tech. of China



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RE: Question regarding CCNA

2000-09-04 Thread Seth Wilson




 I just started studying CCNA, can i get some advice?? what should i be 
focus on when i study?  thxHi 
Jimmy,

I tookthe CCNA a couple months ago. Although I took the 1.0 
exam, by most accounts the 2.0 seems to cover most of the same things, with some 
additions. But these basic thingsprobably haven't changed 
much:

- Subnetting, know it cold. As a veteran of several other 
certification tracks, I wouldn't rate Cisco's subnetting questions as too very 
difficult, but you do need to know your stuff.

- Access Lists (ACLs): Any syntax questions are fair game on the exam, 
expect them. You should definitely know what range of ACLs goes with which 
protocol (i.e. 100-199 are extended IP). Know how ACLs handle wildcard 
masks. Remember as much of the syntax as you can, especially for IP ACLs, 
it's pretty unlikely that you'll get any complex esoteric ones like IPX, but it 
is possible.

- Know basic switching functions, know how switching works, the different 
methods of switching (store-and-forward and cut-through) and know what switching 
accomplishes (breaks up broadcast domains).

- Know the differences between the two routing algorhythms, distance-vector 
and linked-state, as well as hybrid. Especially know some of the methods 
that distance vector uses to overcome its limitations, such as split horizon and 
route poisoning. Also know what routing protocols are examples of each 
method, and know the basics of each protocol; like the rate at which they 
exchange routes, etc. RIP and IGRP were the ones I remember seeing 
most.

- Know all the WAN protocols, the terminology associated with each, and the 
way in which they work. Know the protocols associated with them, and know 
what general WAN technology they use (ie. circuit-switched vs. packet 
switched). Also know some of the basic router commands for implementing 
the WAN protocols.

- Be comfortable with IOS. I would recommend finding access to a 
router for this one and poking around in it, or possibly a router simulation 
program, though I've never tried one.

I know it sounds like a lot, but the test as a whole isn't that bad. 
If you study thoroughly you'll have no problem. I was quite nervous about 
the test, I had certified extensively in Microsoft and Novell, and had heard 
people say that the Cisco tests were much more challenging. And I'm 
finding that true with the CCNP exams. But for the CCNA you should have no 
problem as long as you learn your stuff. The New Riders book on the CCNA 
in my opinion had great practice questions at about the level of the actual 
test, including a couple straight from the test.

Good luck studying, be sure to let everyone know when you pass.

~Seth~


Router models?

2000-09-04 Thread Yee, Jason

hi guys and gals

For the Remote Access 2.0 exam , does one need to memorise the different
types of routers ranging from 700, 1600 , 3600 series how many serial ports
they have , how many BRI interfaces they have etc.?

thanks b4 hand
Jason

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Re: how to enter privileged mode?

2000-09-04 Thread puck

Did you set the pass on the vty lines?

Frank Jordan wrote:

 i just set "enable secret" on my router,no "enable password".
 After i do "no enable secret "command ,i couldn't enter privileged  mode .

 Routeren
 % No password set
 Router

 I didn't save the config,so i think i could restart router to come back,
 but now many people are using network ,i have to wait until midnight.

 Is there any other method ?

 thanks.

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RE: Washington DC/Northern Virginia CCNP/CCIE Study Group?

2000-09-04 Thread Cuong Nguyen

Bruce,

Please let me know when and where the next meeting.

Thanks,

C.Q. Nguyen

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Bruce Evry
Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2000 9:48 AM
To: Cbridgett
Cc: DoneTech; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Washington DC/Northern Virginia CCNP/CCIE Study Group?


Dear Cynthia and Bryan and everyone else,

We have a very active group in the DC, Maryland, Virginia area.
While we only do about one announced event per month, we've got a lot of
less formal activities aimed at obtaining the higher certifications.
Usually people come to one of our Router Roasts, then form smaller groups
to do study sessions. (then of course there is the fact that many of us
now work together at MentorTech - formerly Chesapeake - which has really
helped in our study processes (mostly over lunch...)  :)

We've tried to loosely divide up between those studying for the
CCNP tests and the ones studying for the LAB. But mostly everyone just
tries to help everyone else and it all works out very well!

You are, of course, invited to join us. The next event has not got
a date set yet (for which I apologize but I am trying to study for the
CCSI ICP Instructor test in two weeks while working on the CCIE Lab in
Dec. plus doing everything else. Wish me Luck!) Should be in late Sept.

Yours Truly - Bruce Evry, Ciscopaw-dc


On Sat, 2 Sep 2000, Cbridgett wrote:

 No.  But if you do not find one, lets start one.




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 "...to hell with what other people think, I'm ridin' my own broom!" L. M.

 Cynthia Bridgett, raised in SE DC
and proud of it!
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 Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2000 1:37 AM
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 Subject: Washington DC/Northern Virginia CCNP/CCIE Study Group?


 I am looking for a Washington DC/Northern Virginia CCNP/CCIE Study Group.
 Anyone out there have some info?


 Thanks!

 Brian D.


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Re: PIX

2000-09-04 Thread Lorenzo Montezemolo

It uses Intel NICs.


""Craig Johnson"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
| In my experience, as long as you use identical hardware (NIC's,
motherboard)
| and use the PIX flash card, I see no reason why it wouldn't work just
fine.
| The ones I've worked with was a Pentium Pro mobo (Intel VS440FX) and a
| Pentium II mobo (Intel AL440LX).  If you use those, I see no reason why it
| shouldn't work.  I think they use either Intel Etherexpress 100 NIC's or
| 3Com 3c905B Nic's, although I'm pretty sure it's the former.
|
| Craig Johnson
| -Original Message-
| From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
| Chris Larson
| Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 6:58 AM
| To: William E Gragido; Cisco Cisco; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Subject: Re: PIX
|
|
| This is an interesting question. The PIX is Intel Processoe based though.
| The OS is proprietary and not based on any UNIX or other well knwon
kernel.
| It is hardened. YOu would also have to be able to load a bootstrap loader
| onto the PC. It would be interesting if you got this to work. Please keep
| posted.
|
|
|
| - Original Message -
| From: "William E Gragido" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| To: "Cisco Cisco" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 5:49 PM
| Subject: RE: PIX
|
|
|  No kidding, well, I don't know...the quick reference guides never really
| go
|  too far in detail and I have never seen anyone rip a pix apart just to
see
|  what makes it tick.  I am guessing that its not the case though
| considering
|  Cisco's priclivity towards the RISC processors etc.  I somehow doubt
that
|  they are simply basic PCs if for no other reason than their price tags.
| 
|   -Original Message-
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|   Cisco Cisco
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|   Subject: PIX
|  
|  
|   Somebody told me that a PIX can be built by using common PC
|   components.  I
|   have the PIX OS and would like to build a box for home use only
|   to study on.
| Does anybody know or heard how to do this?
|  
|   I would love to buy a real PIX but my budget is really tight
|   right now - I
|   am sure many of you can relate to this!
|  
|   Thanx
|  
|   PC
|  
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RE: high speed internet access over satellite dish?

2000-09-04 Thread Kevin Welch

You may want to check out www.vsat.net.  Thats the only place I know of off
the top of my head.  If you are very dependent on low latency, you should
probably look at either land lines or LEO (Low Earth Orbit) solutions.

-- Kevin

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 hi ,

 Anyone got any knowledge on establishing high speed internet access over
 satellite dish?

 thanks b4 hand

 Jason

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RE: Config-reg

2000-09-04 Thread Allen Zhao

This is caused you changed your console port band rate. you can try to set
your terminal to 300, 1200, and other.

Good luck.
Allen
-Original Message-
From: Cbridgett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 5:54 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Config-reg


I changed my configuration register to something stupid 0x0102 and now my
router will not boot.  Is there anyway I can change the config register.  I
cannot enter through rommon, it will not take any break key combinations.
Maybe a jumper on the board???



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"...to hell with what other people think, I'm ridin' my own broom!" L. M.

Cynthia Bridgett, raised in SE DC
   and proud of it!
CCNA, MCSE, CNE, CNA, MCP, A+

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Re: another stupid question, logo presidence

2000-09-04 Thread puck

I say the same thing. With CCDP you can't claim the CCNP and with CCNP you can't claim 
CCDP since I believe they differ due to one test. Both should be good. I just hate 
those CCNP guys who put: "CCNA, CCNP"...It is only
obvious...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I think since those are two different tracks, you can use both/either with no 
problem.  You just couldn't use the CCIE logo, say, if you had passed the written but 
not the lab yet - you just haven't earned it yet, baby.

 Sincerely,

 Bradley J. Wilson
 CCNA, CCDA, MCSE, CCSE, CNX-A, MCT, CTT

 David Ristau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  According to the cisco logo usage guidelines, which must be accepted
 before such use of a logo, it says that only the highest achieved cisco
 logo should be used in marketing materials, now if I am a  CCNP and a
 CCDP
 which would take presidence ?

 now there is a can of worms...

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Goal to CCIE by Self-Study

2000-09-04 Thread Serial # 19781010

Hi everybody,

Starting Cisco several months ago, I find it's not a boring game to
improve my network knowledge by digging Cisco. This April, I sat the
CCIE Design Beta written (351-014) and failed by 6 points, so I study
harder and harder these days. I want to verify the result of my study
by writing the following exams in Sep,

CCIE-R/S written (350-001), 28 Sep
CCIE-ISP Dial written (350-004), 29 Sep
CCIE-Design written (350-014), 30 Sep

Furthermore,

Cisco Networkers 2000 in Beijing, 16-17 Oct
(Registered the CCIE exam study activity in this party!)

CCIE Routing/Switching Lab in Sydney, Nov maybe, TBD

Without any Cisco training course and Cisco certified course material,
I study the following books and check the blueprint in CCIE Web site,
but I am not sure if I am ready, so need your suggest.

Main Study:
1. Interconnection Second Edition - Bridges, Routers, Switches, and
Internetworking Protocols, Radia Perlman 
2. Cisco LAN Switching, Clark  Hamilton
3. Routing TCP/IP Volume I, Jeff Doyle
4. Internet Routing Architectures, Bassam Halabi
5. OSPF - Anatomy of an Internet Routing Protocol, John T. Moy
6. Dial Solution Configuration Guide, CCO
7. IBM Technologies, CCO

Referential Study:
1. Practice Guide to SNMPv3 and Network Management, David Zeltserman
2. Broadband Telecommunications Handbook, Regis J. "Bud" Bates

Finally, may you all enjoy yourself on the internetworking road.

PS. Will answer any question about the exams I've taken if I remember.

Steven, Taipei
System Software Developer
CCDP/CCNP+Voice(1.0+2.0Beta)+Security+ATM/CSE(Enterprise+SMB)/ CCAI
 

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Help Requested-CCIE LAB

2000-09-04 Thread itservices




Dear CCIE and CCIE Aspiring Friends


I trust that this find you doing well. Friends I 
would request for your kind help on following info/input regarding CCIE LAB 
exam.

1. How many total Lab Scenarios would be 
given?
2. Will Lab have scenarios on SNA/DLSW/ATM  
ATM LANE/Appletalk/DECnet or not. If there then what would be there 
percentage(out of total).
3.What would be major 
areas and what model of equipment(Cisco Boxex) would be there(site do indicate 
but would appreciate your personal experience) ?
4. In a worts/complex Lab scenario, how many Routers/Switches 
could be possible.
4. Any specific advice or reference material for the 
LAB.

I would highly appreciate for your kind support.

Thanks  Regards

Shailendra