date:20000908

If your dlsw peers point to an physical interface that
goes away --> dlsw peers will go away . This is the
main reason to work with loopbacks .

DLSw only requires that the peers are reachable .
For the backup , all routing stuff should be inplace
before 3 DLSw keep-alives . ( 90 seconds )
How you handle that has nothing to do with DLSw .
Floating statics are certainly an option .

flem

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> just make sure that the DLSw referneces the loopback
> addresses and that you
> are using something like eigrp. Put a default router
> to the other side BRI
> with a higher admin distance - such as 200 for
> example. It will work.. I
> have it working here
>  
> Regards
>  
> Andrew
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: emirates [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 07 September 2000 13:43
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: dlsw + ISDN backup
> 
> 
> Hi Guys,
>  
> Small issue regarding DLSW, I want to enable it on
> two router using Cisco
> 3640 on serial and use ISDN as a backup. Is there
> any special configuration
> required to use isdn backup for dlsw? 
> I would really appreciate if anyone send me sample
> configuration if its
> doable?
>  
> Best Regards
> AA
>  
>  
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RE: EIGRP metric

2000-09-08 Thread Andrew Larkins


EIGRP metric looks at bandwidth, delay, mtu, load, reliability.
For an adjaceny to form they metrics must be the same on both sides, or the
2 routers will never route or pass updates.
Best to make the same changes on both sides. As for the clock rate, I am not
to sure here - a flying guess says yes

Regards
Andrew

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Subject: EIGRP metric


Hi friends

I am reading up on EIGRP and have some  questions
My scenario is simple; two routers connected by a DCE/DTE crossover cables.
1) Does the clock rate set on the DCE interface effect the EIGRP metric in
any way.

2) If suppose I change the bandwidth and the delay of  the interface on
Router 1  from the default values, should I have to change it on the router
R2 too.

Thanks

SV

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Re: netbios, whats it good for?


I have not read Laura's book but it is not good to
have TO MUCH of anything flying around :)

Netbios is packed in TCP/IP . 
What is wrong with it ?
Why are you using it ? Answer this and you know if it
is good to have this traffic flying around .


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> > Scott
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> > > You know that handy-dandy feature in Windows
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> > > Remove NetBIOS and you won't see any other
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> recently took
> > >> a look at my network and i see a TON of it
> flying
> > >> around! capturenet shows:tcp->NETBIOS-SSN
> > >> can you tell me what this netbios would be good
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Re: dlsw + ISDN backup

2000-09-08 Thread ³ÂÏþì¿




you can configure your router like this;
 
username C3640-B password cisco
dlsw local-peer peer-id 2.2.2.2 promiscuous
dlsw remote-peer 1 tcp 1.1.1.1 dynamic no-llc 10
dlsw netbios-keepalive-filter
interface s0
 backup interface bri0
 backup delay 10 30
interface bri0/0
 encapsulation ppp
 dialer idle-timeout 60
 dialer map llc2 name C3640-B broadcast 
111
 dialer-group 1
 
dialer-list 1 protocol llc2 permit
 
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  From: 
  Andrew 
  Larkins 
  To: emirates ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 2:59 
  PM
  Subject: RE: dlsw + ISDN backup
  
  just 
  make sure that the DLSw referneces the loopback addresses and that you are 
  using somncaething like eigrp. Put a default router to the other side BRI with 
  a higher admin distance - such as 200 for example. It will work.. I have it 
  working here
   
  Regards
   
  Andrew
  
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07 September 2000 13:43To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: 
dlsw + ISDN backup
Hi Guys,
 
Small issue regarding DLSW, I want to enable it 
on two router using Cisco 3640 on serial and use ISDN as a backup. Is there 
any special configuration required to use isdn backup for 
dlsw? 
I would really appreciate if anyone send me 
sample configuration if its doable?
 
Best Regards
AA

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Re: load balancing on Rip

I must disagree on nandit .

The first packet is always process switched and will
populate the arp cache . So , you will see entries in
the sh arp .

The remaining packets are fast-switched and you can
see the fast-cache using sh ip cache .
This fast-cache is build partly from the normal arp
cache .

The both caches have there own aging algorithme. 

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> always
> >send them over the same link.
> >
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Protocol Analyzer and Sniffers

2000-09-08 Thread Fred Thomas


Hello group, does anyone know of any Analyzers, probes or sniffers that
that would support (DWDM) Division Wave Division Multiplexing, ATM,
Sonnet, Gigabit and Fasteternet.

Thanks
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RE: EIGRP metric

clock-rate makes no difference to the metric .

I cannot see why the bandwidth parameter cannot be
different on both neighbouring routers .
For one router in question only the outbound
interfaces to the destination are considered in the
calculation of the metric .

flem

--- Andrew Larkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> EIGRP metric looks at bandwidth, delay, mtu, load,
> reliability.
> For an adjaceny to form they metrics must be the
> same on both sides, or the
> 2 routers will never route or pass updates.
> Best to make the same changes on both sides. As for
> the clock rate, I am not
> to sure here - a flying guess says yes
> 
> Regards
> Andrew
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: SV [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 07 September 2000 17:25
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: EIGRP metric
> 
> 
> Hi friends
> 
> I am reading up on EIGRP and have some  questions
> My scenario is simple; two routers connected by a
> DCE/DTE crossover cables.
> 1) Does the clock rate set on the DCE interface
> effect the EIGRP metric in
> any way.
> 
> 2) If suppose I change the bandwidth and the delay
> of  the interface on
> Router 1  from the default values, should I have to
> change it on the router
> R2 too.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> SV
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RE: bgp problems

2000-09-08 Thread Yee, Jason


I have checked but the neighbor 202.161.130.249 is actually a host of a
loopback interface having mask of 255.255.255.255 and I can't add in this
mask in a static route , what should I do ?


please mail me a [EMAIL PROTECTED]

thanks

Jason

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To: Yee, Jason; cisco@groupstudy. com (E-mail)
Subject: RE: bgp problems


You are using eBGP multihop so it's important to find out if you have a
route to your provider and also if your provider has a route to you.  You
have a default route which points to your provider, but I would add a host
based static route to your bgp neighbor.  With BGP, you can have problems
when you use a default route to get to your BGP connection; then when BGP
comes up you learn a more specific route via BGP and all the other networks
become unreachable due to a bad next hop.

You also need to ensure that your provider has a route back to your serial
interface.


Regards,
Aaron K. Dixon

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Subject: bgp problems


hi Anyone can help me with the problems below :
Hi,

The configuration file is attached.

For two days the link was down because the some problem in local line. Now
it was set right. After that the bgp link came up and worked fine for 90
mins. After there is no data transfer in this link. By the same time I am
able to ping 202.65.129.81 ( ip for my IRD), so I given a complaint to
 customercare, USA. And also I restarted IRD here. The link came
up after 30 mins. Now again the link was up, but there is no active bgp
connection.

when I see bgp neighbors, it is showing

No active TCP connections

 <<2501.log>>

Any form of input will be greatly appreciated


thanks

Jason







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CVOICE 2.0 Beta passed

2000-09-08 Thread Ibrahim



Hi .. I passed it, I thought I'll get failed, because so many questions on
Voice over frame-relay ..


Ibam
Cvoice,Cvoice 2.0

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RE: 802.1Q or ISL

2000-09-08 Thread Tom Walstrom


Ole,

ISL encapsulates the frame adding, as you said, a 26 byte header and a 4
byte CRC trailer.  802.1Q frame-tagging does not change the frame size
(hence its interoperability, because it appears as a standard ethernet frame
to non-802.1Q devices), but does modify the existing frame with VLAN
identification information.

I would suspect that the real reason to deploy ISL is that it runs one
spanning tree per vlan where 802.1Q runs only one spanning tree.  Also ISL
allows bonding into etherchannels.  Seems like this would be more likely to
make a difference on the network.  I would think you would only do 802.1Q
where interoperability was the issue, like with a Catalyst 4000 which I
believe only supports 802.1Q.  Maybe some switch guru could further
illuminate this issue.

Regards,

Tom

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Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 1:38 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: 802.1Q or ISL


Just a thought. - Digging through another book towards the light at the end
of the tunnel, I have now added VLAN Trunc Links to my knowledge. That has
brought this question up in my mind, so I would like to hear some feedback
on this subject.

I know that much of this depends on the average frame sizes, so lets say
that I have analyzed my network, and the average frame size is 800. Lets
also say that we are only dealing with Cisco Catalyst switches in this
scenario.

The question is, what would be least resource-waste to use as a trunking
link : ISL or 802.1Q???

The 802.1Q has to break the frame open to modify it, but it adds only 4
bytes to each frame.

The ISL does not have to break the frame open because it simply encapsulates
it into a new one, but it adds 30 bytes to each frame.

Any comments on this?

Thanks,

Ole

~~
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 Systems Network Manager
 CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
 RWR Enterprises, Inc.
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Re: Help Password recovery 4000

2000-09-08 Thread Bob & Karen Timmons


http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/474/

You should be able to find what you need there.

Bob
CCNP/CCDP (I'll only do that this once... just passed my CID - Yay!)

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> I can't figure it out.  I have a 4000 running ios v 9.14(5).  I don't have
> the exec password.  I cannot get to ROMMON.  The break key does not work
nor
> could I find a jumper marked for hardware configuration register.  I read
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Re: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track?

2000-09-08 Thread Oliver Nadalin


Enough already with the whole Layer 1/Hub debacle.

The McGraw Hill stuff isn't that bad. It's a case of either-or when choosing
between Cisco Press and Mcgraw Hill.


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> your OSI layer functions.
>
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Cisco
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Syngress
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to
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Static route question !!

2000-09-08 Thread jeongwoo park


HI all.
In configuring static route between a central site
router and a branch office router, do we need to
configure static route on both routers? or either of
them? or only central site router? or only branch
office router? and why?

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Re: Quicken.com - News

2000-09-08 Thread dsilva


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Re: Static route ANSWER !!

2000-09-08 Thread Brad Ellis


You need a route to the destination and a route back to the source.  Does
that answer your question?  So, yes, you will probably need (2) static
routes (unless you are also running a dynamic routing protocol).

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RE: 802.1Q or ISL

2000-09-08 Thread Ole Drews Jensen


Thanks for your reply Tom,

However, according to the book I'm reading, the 802.1Q DOES change the frame
size by adding 4 bytes into it.

Take care,

Ole


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-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 6:30 AM
To: Ole Drews Jensen; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: 802.1Q or ISL


Ole,

ISL encapsulates the frame adding, as you said, a 26 byte header and a 4
byte CRC trailer.  802.1Q frame-tagging does not change the frame size
(hence its interoperability, because it appears as a standard ethernet frame
to non-802.1Q devices), but does modify the existing frame with VLAN
identification information.

I would suspect that the real reason to deploy ISL is that it runs one
spanning tree per vlan where 802.1Q runs only one spanning tree.  Also ISL
allows bonding into etherchannels.  Seems like this would be more likely to
make a difference on the network.  I would think you would only do 802.1Q
where interoperability was the issue, like with a Catalyst 4000 which I
believe only supports 802.1Q.  Maybe some switch guru could further
illuminate this issue.

Regards,

Tom

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Subject: 802.1Q or ISL


Just a thought. - Digging through another book towards the light at the end
of the tunnel, I have now added VLAN Trunc Links to my knowledge. That has
brought this question up in my mind, so I would like to hear some feedback
on this subject.

I know that much of this depends on the average frame sizes, so lets say
that I have analyzed my network, and the average frame size is 800. Lets
also say that we are only dealing with Cisco Catalyst switches in this
scenario.

The question is, what would be least resource-waste to use as a trunking
link : ISL or 802.1Q???

The 802.1Q has to break the frame open to modify it, but it adds only 4
bytes to each frame.

The ISL does not have to break the frame open because it simply encapsulates
it into a new one, but it adds 30 bytes to each frame.

Any comments on this?

Thanks,

Ole

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Re: Decreasing # of CCIE's Worldwide

2000-09-08 Thread Brad Ellis


Yeah, notice the # that got decertified...wow...can you say, "NETWORKERS
here I come???"

lol

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> It is interesting to see the decline.
>
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>
> http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/ccie_program/ccie_present.html
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HSRP problem

2000-09-08 Thread Paul Montgomery


Dear Group,

I am experiencing difficulty with implementing HSRP on a couple of 3640s. I
have set this up using configurations that have been working previously.
Both routers are connected to Nortel 10/100 autosensing switches (separate
but in the same stack). I have no VLANs or segmentation set up on the
switches. I have set up debugging on the standby on both routers. What I see
is only the outgoing hello packets. I do not see the incoming hello packets,
consequently both routers think the other is down and therefore takes up
the active router role. I have tried to do a multicast ping to 224.0.0.2
which I believe is the multicast group address that HSRP uses without
success.

I have attached the relevent bits of config below.

If anyone could shed any light on this curious problem I would be most
grateful.



Standby router

standby-router>#sh standby
Ethernet0/0 - Group 0
  Local state is Active, priority 100, may preempt, use bia
  Hellotime 3 holdtime 10
  Next hello sent in 00:00:02.556
  Hot standby IP address is 10.10.2.200 configured
  Active router is local
  Standby router is unknown expired
  Standby virtual mac address is 0010.7b44.cf41

interface Ethernet0/0
 ip address 10.10.2.209 255.0.0.0
 no ip redirects
 ip directed-broadcast
 standby use-bia
 standby priority 100
 standby preempt
 standby ip 10.10.2.200

Primary-router>#sh standby
Ethernet0/0 - Group 0
  Local state is Active, priority 200, may preempt, use bia
  Hellotime 3 holdtime 10
  Next hello sent in 00:00:01.338
  Hot standby IP address is 10.10.2.200 configured
  Active router is local
  Standby router is unknown expired
  Standby virtual mac address is 0030.947e.d480

interface Ethernet0/0
 description *** Local Area Network Segment ***
 ip address 172.31.72.200 255.255.255.0 secondary
 ip address 10.10.2.207 255.0.0.0
 no ip redirects
 ip directed-broadcast
 standby use-bia
 standby priority 200 preempt
 standby ip 45.10.2.200



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Re: Ip helper address



You have 2 DHCP servers on the same subnet??? This is probably not a good 
idea... it does not really provide redundancy or load balancing.
The DHCP client will issue a request and accept the first response that it 
gets.

If you split your scope such that half of your available addresses are on 
one server and half are on the other, you will *NOT* see that half of your 
clients use one server while half use the other. If for some reason one 
server always replies a nanosecond earlier than the other, then all clients 
will accept the response from that server. Once that server is out of 
addresses, it will start sending nack's. The clients will start accepting 
those nack's and will not request an address again, even though the other 
DHCP server may have dozens of free addresses to offer.

SO - in answer to your question, the ip helper address of 10.10.10.0 will 
allow your client's requests to reach all DHCP servers on that subnet, 
HOWEVER they will only accept leases from the first server from which they 
receive a response. Chances are that server will be the same one all the 
time, even after it runs out of addresses to offer...

You *could* set up your DHCP servers such that the scope on EACH ONE is 
sufficient to offer leases to ALL of you clients, but that is probably a 
less than efficient use of your address space.

I hope that this helps...

Dale
[=`)

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>Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 08:10:44 -0500
>
>I am trying to put a statement on the remote router to allow the clients to
>obtain an IP address accross the WAN.  I have used the ip helper-address
>command successfully.  My problem is that i would like any of the DHCP
>servers at the central site to be able to service DHCP requests from the
>remote site.  Do I have to use mutilple ip helper-address statements ?  I
>have tried  a helper address pointing to the subnet, but that does not seem
>to work. EX. i have DHCP servers at 10.10.10.10 and 10.10.10.11 do i have 
>to
>use two seperate ip helper address statements or can i use ip 
>helper-address
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FTP Throughput slowing down

2000-09-08 Thread peter . paul




Can anyone explain why, when I do an FTP from one location over a Frame Relay
link to another, it starts out with a good throughput, but after a few minutes,
drops significantly, and the total bandwidth is not being exceeded. There are a
few routers in-between that I have no control over.

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Re: BCSN

2000-09-08 Thread Donald B Johnson Jr


Yeah but you said that E is right out of the BCMSN book what page is it on.
I don't think that VLANs PROVIDE the kind of hopping they're talking about.
That would be something that layer 3 does there is nothing in a VLAN design
to reach another VLAN without a layer 3 protocol. got to be C.
See if this makes sense:
VLANs have been designed to _provide network-wide shared services and
allow users to use hyperlinks to hop
transparently between servers across enterprise networks and address the
segmenting broadcast domains.
I really have a hard time with the word PROVIDE in the ? they may both be
right in cisco's mind but the word should be ALLOW not PROVIDE in my mind.
See if this makes sense:
VLANs have been designed to _ALLOW network-wide shared services and
allow users to use hyperlinks to hop
transparently between servers across enterprise networks and address the
segmenting broadcast domains.
I would take this in a heart beat.
I think this has been a good thread, there has been about 6-8 different
individuals participate and nobody asked for free software or what is the
cut score for CCNA or where is free lab time.
Still want the word for word page for E on this like was stated. I can tell
you which page C is on word for word, if you want.
Duck

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Subject: RE: BCSN


> Agreed
>
> What is the chance of finalising this thread??... E is the answer - I can
> almost stack something important on it.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Donald B Johnson Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 08 September 2000 02:33
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; jh
> Subject: Re: BCSN
>
>
> What page is that on.
> Duck
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> Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 3:18 PM
> Subject: Re: BCSN
>
>
> > Answer e is also right out of the book(BCMSN).  It is point that they
harp
> > on.  Several of the questions can pertain to Vlans, security etc, but
the
> > feeling I get from reading the Cisco books is that vlans increase
> > performance and efficiency because they decrease the broadcasts in
> domains.
> > And they do it (theoretically) better than routers, and with less
> > angement( again theoretically)
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Donald B Johnson Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "j h" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 3:11 PM
> > Subject: Re: BCSN
> >
> >
> > > Yeah but vlans dont provide the service anymore than a subnet does.
> > Routing
> > > or layer 3 swithcing provides E. VLANs are a broadcast domain.
> > > answer C is right out of the Cisco press book yet they marked it wrong
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: j h <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 8:06 AM
> > > Subject: Re: BCSN
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I think the answer would e.  Cisco sells Vlans as being the great
> > > broadcast
> > > > domain separator while maintaining an effecient network.
> > > >
> > > > >From: "Donald B Johnson Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > >Reply-To: "Donald B Johnson Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > >Subject: BCSN
> > > > >Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 15:53:20 -0700
> > > > >
> > > > >What would be the right answer to this question.
> > > > >I got this off the cisco site and I answered c but they marked it
> rong.
> > I
> > > > >think this is a mistake.
> > > > >Thanks
> > > > >Duck
> > > > >VLANs have been designed to _.
> > > > >
> > > > >   A. address forwarding decisions based on transport layer
> information
> > > and
> > > > >spanning tree
> > > > >scalability
> > > > >   B. maximize the amount of traffic switched at Layer 3 and
minimize
> > the
> > > > >amount of traffic switched at Layer 2
> > > > >   C. address the scalability issues of a flat network topology and
> the
> > > > >addition of network
> > > > >management through Layer 3 routing protocols
> > > > >   D. address redundant access to the workgroup and migration of
> > servers
> > > to
> > > > >server farms for increased security and management of data
resources
> > > > >   E. address segmenting broadcast domains while still providing
> > > > >network-wide
> > > > >shared services and allowing users to use hyperlinks to hop
> > transparently
> > > > >between servers across enterprise networks
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study partner

2000-09-08 Thread rick


Is anyone in the the Austin area interested in studying
together for CCNP? I would like to have someone else to work
with.
I have a small lab with 3 routers and a switch.
Please respond to me not to the list.
Rick

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RE: Decreasing # of CCIE's Worlwide

2000-09-08 Thread Miller, Nathan (AZ15)


I have heard that Cisco significantly discounts the proice of support
contracts to companies with current CCIEs.  If this is true it is one reason
why keeping the cert current increases marketability.
Nathan Miller

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/
Another question is...Has an employer ever asked "is your CCIE current"?
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Subject: Re: Decreasing # of CCIE's Worlwide


>Well, if it costs $1,000 to take the lab again, which involves hours and
>hours of studying, and you go to a client and say, I'm CCIE  and I let
>my certifications lapse, but here's what I've been doing for the past X
>number of years
>
> Do you really need those 4 letters anymore with most companies with that
>level of experience? I mean, if it is out of date, it hasn't really been
>long enough to be REALLY out of date...
>
>*plink plink*
>
>-Chris
>
>
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>> By definition a CCIE is the best when it comes to real world experience.
>>
>>
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>> > certification is not as important in this market and
>> > that the 'lower' level certifications, along with
>> > 'real' world experience, provide a greater benefit to
>> > corporations and providers?
>> >
>> >
>> > --- "Healis, Jim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > > This could be due to people not passing
>> > > re-certification exams, failing to
>> > > schedule the re-cert exam in time, death, or even
>> > > worse Breaking Cisco's
>> > > NDA!!
>> > >
>> > > Jim Healis, CCDP, CCNP
>> > > Senior Network Administrator
>> > > Virata
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >  -Original Message-
>> > > From: Daniel Ji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> > > Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 1:47 PM
>> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > > Subject: Re: Decreasing # of CCIE's Worlwide
>> > >
>> > > I guess that's good news for all of us who are
>> > > trying damn hard to be a
>> > > CCIE. After all, the less # worldwide, the more
>> > > value this cert will have.
>> > > it's all just simple "supply vs demand".
>> > >
>> > > Good luck to all!
>> > >
>> > > Daniel
>> > > Lab in Dec
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>> > > > First time i've seen the number of CCIE's go
>> > > down...
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/ccie_program/ccie_present.html
>> > > >
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>> > > >
>> > > > ccnp/dp/mcse
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Re: HSRP problem

2000-09-08 Thread ROUTHIER, YVES


Hello Paul,

First you should alway set your switch in static mode as 10 or 100 baseT
if your sure the port attach is 10 or 100 BaseT, remove the autosense
mode for those port

Yves Routhier


Paul Montgomery wrote:
> 
> Dear Group,
> 
> I am experiencing difficulty with implementing HSRP on a couple of 3640s. I
> have set this up using configurations that have been working previously.
> Both routers are connected to Nortel 10/100 autosensing switches (separate
> but in the same stack). I have no VLANs or segmentation set up on the
> switches. I have set up debugging on the standby on both routers. What I see
> is only the outgoing hello packets. I do not see the incoming hello packets,
> consequently both routers think the other is down and therefore takes up
> the active router role. I have tried to do a multicast ping to 224.0.0.2
> which I believe is the multicast group address that HSRP uses without
> success.
> 
> I have attached the relevent bits of config below.
> 
> If anyone could shed any light on this curious problem I would be most
> grateful.
> 
> Standby router
> 
> standby-router>#sh standby
> Ethernet0/0 - Group 0
>   Local state is Active, priority 100, may preempt, use bia
>   Hellotime 3 holdtime 10
>   Next hello sent in 00:00:02.556
>   Hot standby IP address is 10.10.2.200 configured
>   Active router is local
>   Standby router is unknown expired
>   Standby virtual mac address is 0010.7b44.cf41
> 
> interface Ethernet0/0
>  ip address 10.10.2.209 255.0.0.0
>  no ip redirects
>  ip directed-broadcast
>  standby use-bia
>  standby priority 100
>  standby preempt
>  standby ip 10.10.2.200
> 
> Primary-router>#sh standby
> Ethernet0/0 - Group 0
>   Local state is Active, priority 200, may preempt, use bia
>   Hellotime 3 holdtime 10
>   Next hello sent in 00:00:01.338
>   Hot standby IP address is 10.10.2.200 configured
>   Active router is local
>   Standby router is unknown expired
>   Standby virtual mac address is 0030.947e.d480
> 
> interface Ethernet0/0
>  description *** Local Area Network Segment ***
>  ip address 172.31.72.200 255.255.255.0 secondary
>  ip address 10.10.2.207 255.0.0.0
>  no ip redirects
>  ip directed-broadcast
>  standby use-bia
>  standby priority 200 preempt
>  standby ip 45.10.2.200
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RE: HSRP problem

2000-09-08 Thread Paul Montgomery


Dale,

Yes I believe they do support multicast. In fact these are the same switches
on which the HSRP was working previously!

BTW there is a typo in the config below. On the Primary router's Int e0/0
the statement 
standby ip 45.10.2.200 should be standby ip 10.10.2.200 - oops.

Regards,

Paul.

-Original Message-
From: Dale Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 02:59
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: HSRP problem


Do your switches support multicast?


>From: Paul Montgomery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Paul Montgomery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: HSRP problem
>Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 14:08:11 +0100
>
>Dear Group,
>
>I am experiencing difficulty with implementing HSRP on a couple of 3640s. I
>have set this up using configurations that have been working previously.
>Both routers are connected to Nortel 10/100 autosensing switches (separate
>but in the same stack). I have no VLANs or segmentation set up on the
>switches. I have set up debugging on the standby on both routers. What I 
>see
>is only the outgoing hello packets. I do not see the incoming hello 
>packets,
>consequently both routers think the other is down and therefore takes up
>the active router role. I have tried to do a multicast ping to 224.0.0.2
>which I believe is the multicast group address that HSRP uses without
>success.
>
>I have attached the relevent bits of config below.
>
>If anyone could shed any light on this curious problem I would be most
>grateful.
>
>
>
>Standby router
>
>standby-router>#sh standby
>Ethernet0/0 - Group 0
>   Local state is Active, priority 100, may preempt, use bia
>   Hellotime 3 holdtime 10
>   Next hello sent in 00:00:02.556
>   Hot standby IP address is 10.10.2.200 configured
>   Active router is local
>   Standby router is unknown expired
>   Standby virtual mac address is 0010.7b44.cf41
>
>interface Ethernet0/0
>  ip address 10.10.2.209 255.0.0.0
>  no ip redirects
>  ip directed-broadcast
>  standby use-bia
>  standby priority 100
>  standby preempt
>  standby ip 10.10.2.200
>
>Primary-router>#sh standby
>Ethernet0/0 - Group 0
>   Local state is Active, priority 200, may preempt, use bia
>   Hellotime 3 holdtime 10
>   Next hello sent in 00:00:01.338
>   Hot standby IP address is 10.10.2.200 configured
>   Active router is local
>   Standby router is unknown expired
>   Standby virtual mac address is 0030.947e.d480
>
>interface Ethernet0/0
>  description *** Local Area Network Segment ***
>  ip address 172.31.72.200 255.255.255.0 secondary
>  ip address 10.10.2.207 255.0.0.0
>  no ip redirects
>  ip directed-broadcast
>  standby use-bia
>  standby priority 200 preempt
>  standby ip 45.10.2.200
>
>
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RE: 802.1Q or ISL

2000-09-08 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz


>Thanks for your reply Tom,
>
>However, according to the book I'm reading, the 802.1Q DOES change the frame
>size by adding 4 bytes into it.
>
>Take care,
>
>Ole

 From the horse's mouth, 802.1Q:


9.1 Overview
Tagging a frame requires:
a) The addition of a Tag Header to the frame. This header is inserted 
immediately following the Desti-nation
MAC address and Source MAC address (and Routing, if present) fields 
of the frame to be
transmitted;


To return to your original question, Ole, when you speak of 
optimizing resource use, what do you consider the scarce resource? 
Other than in the martini-soaked brain (if I may use the term) of an 
overly zealous salesdroid, you can't optimize for everything at once. 
Save me from "specialists in all cars, foreign and domestic."

Some optimizations could include:

Bandwidth overhead
  Frame length
  Overhead frames (BPDU, for example)
Latency in the switch
  Input serialization
  Processing
  Internal forwarding
  Output serialization
Ease of use
Interoperability

Which do you want to optimize?
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Tom Walstrom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 6:30 AM
>To: Ole Drews Jensen; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: 802.1Q or ISL
>
>
>Ole,
>
>ISL encapsulates the frame adding, as you said, a 26 byte header and a 4
>byte CRC trailer.  802.1Q frame-tagging does not change the frame size
>(hence its interoperability, because it appears as a standard ethernet frame
>to non-802.1Q devices), but does modify the existing frame with VLAN
>identification information.
>
>I would suspect that the real reason to deploy ISL is that it runs one
>spanning tree per vlan where 802.1Q runs only one spanning tree.  Also ISL
>allows bonding into etherchannels.  Seems like this would be more likely to
>make a difference on the network.  I would think you would only do 802.1Q
>where interoperability was the issue, like with a Catalyst 4000 which I
>believe only supports 802.1Q.  Maybe some switch guru could further
>illuminate this issue.
>
>Regards,
>
>Tom
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Ole Drews Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 1:38 PM
>
>Just a thought. - Digging through another book towards the light at the end
>of the tunnel, I have now added VLAN Trunc Links to my knowledge. That has
>brought this question up in my mind, so I would like to hear some feedback
>on this subject.
>
>I know that much of this depends on the average frame sizes, so lets say
>that I have analyzed my network, and the average frame size is 800. Lets
>also say that we are only dealing with Cisco Catalyst switches in this
>scenario.
>
>The question is, what would be least resource-waste to use as a trunking
>link : ISL or 802.1Q???
>
>The 802.1Q has to break the frame open to modify it, but it adds only 4
>bytes to each frame.
>
>The ISL does not have to break the frame open because it simply encapsulates
>it into a new one, but it adds 30 bytes to each frame.
>
>Any comments on this?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Ole

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RE: Decreasing # of CCIE's Worldwide

2000-09-08 Thread Montgomery, Robert WARCOM Contractor


If your advertising to customers that you have a CCIE on your staff you need
those 4 little letters.  But if you just want to fudge it

-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 6:21 PM
To: Chris Hagen; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Decreasing # of CCIE's Worlwide


/
Another question is...Has an employer ever asked "is your CCIE current"?
\
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Date: Thursday, September 07, 2000 7:12 PM
Subject: Re: Decreasing # of CCIE's Worlwide


>Well, if it costs $1,000 to take the lab again, which involves hours and
>hours of studying, and you go to a client and say, I'm CCIE  and I let
>my certifications lapse, but here's what I've been doing for the past X
>number of years
>
> Do you really need those 4 letters anymore with most companies with that
>level of experience? I mean, if it is out of date, it hasn't really been
>long enough to be REALLY out of date...
>
>*plink plink*
>
>-Chris
>
>
>"andy lennon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 8p93pj$1ii$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8p93pj$1ii$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Bollocks.
>> By definition a CCIE is the best when it comes to real world experience.
>>
>>
>> "Robert Padjen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> > Might it also mean that people are finding that the
>> > certification is not as important in this market and
>> > that the 'lower' level certifications, along with
>> > 'real' world experience, provide a greater benefit to
>> > corporations and providers?
>> >
>> >
>> > --- "Healis, Jim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > > This could be due to people not passing
>> > > re-certification exams, failing to
>> > > schedule the re-cert exam in time, death, or even
>> > > worse Breaking Cisco's
>> > > NDA!!
>> > >
>> > > Jim Healis, CCDP, CCNP
>> > > Senior Network Administrator
>> > > Virata
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >  -Original Message-
>> > > From: Daniel Ji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> > > Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 1:47 PM
>> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > > Subject: Re: Decreasing # of CCIE's Worlwide
>> > >
>> > > I guess that's good news for all of us who are
>> > > trying damn hard to be a
>> > > CCIE. After all, the less # worldwide, the more
>> > > value this cert will have.
>> > > it's all just simple "supply vs demand".
>> > >
>> > > Good luck to all!
>> > >
>> > > Daniel
>> > > Lab in Dec
>> > >
>> > > ""andy lennon"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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>> > > > First time i've seen the number of CCIE's go
>> > > down...
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/ccie_program/ccie_present.html
>> > > >
>> > > > Andy Lennon
>> > > >
>> > > > ccnp/dp/mcse
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
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RE: Decreasing # of CCIE's Worldwide

2000-09-08 Thread Montgomery, Robert WARCOM Contractor


lol!!!  You can't be serious.

-
>From: Robert Padjen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>
>Might it also mean that people are finding that the
>certification is not as important in this market and
>that the 'lower' level certifications, along with
>'real' world experience, provide a greater benefit to
>corporations and providers?
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On Demand Routing (ODR) - Anyone using this routing protocol?

2000-09-08 Thread Hornbeck, Timothy


Wondering if anyone is using ODR instead of RIP, IGRP, OSPF, EIGRP?  How
does it scale?  What's the overhead?

Thanks,

Timothy J. Hornbeck
Technical Analyst III - Team Lead
National City Bank

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Re: Quicken.com - News

2000-09-08 Thread dsilva


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Core Layer Design

2000-09-08 Thread EXT-Crosby, David M


I am looking for real life examples of layer 2 only switches connecting the core layer 
to the distribution layer.  I've seen white papers recommending to use and not use 
layer 2 only switches between the two layers.

If you have installed a layer 2 switch between the core and distribution layer, please 
let me know the results.  If it caused problems, what were they.  Did it solve 
problems?  

If you have URLs or other documentation that addresses this issues, we would 
appreciate your input.  

Thank you in advance for your assistance.




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RE: HSRP problem

2000-09-08 Thread Paul Montgomery



Bill,

Thanks for your response. I actually had a group number in an earlier
config. I took it out after looking at a sample config on the cisco web site
(http://cisco.com/warp/public/619/1.html)

Either way it didn't work.

Regards,

Paul.

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Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 03:43
To: Paul Montgomery
Subject: Re: HSRP problem


Paul,

I think you need a number after standby to associate a
group so both router know there in the same group

e0

standby 1 ip 10.10.10.1
standby 1 preempt
standby 1 priority 100


e0

standby 1 ip 10.10.10.1
standby 1 preempt 
standby 1 priority 200

Bill


--- Paul Montgomery
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dear Group,
> 
> I am experiencing difficulty with implementing HSRP
> on a couple of 3640s. I
> have set this up using configurations that have been
> working previously.
> Both routers are connected to Nortel 10/100
> autosensing switches (separate
> but in the same stack). I have no VLANs or
> segmentation set up on the
> switches. I have set up debugging on the standby on
> both routers. What I see
> is only the outgoing hello packets. I do not see the
> incoming hello packets,
> consequently both routers think the other is down
> and therefore takes up
> the active router role. I have tried to do a
> multicast ping to 224.0.0.2
> which I believe is the multicast group address that
> HSRP uses without
> success.
> 
> I have attached the relevent bits of config below.
> 
> If anyone could shed any light on this curious
> problem I would be most
> grateful.
> 
> 
> 
> Standby router
> 
> standby-router>#sh standby
> Ethernet0/0 - Group 0
>   Local state is Active, priority 100, may preempt,
> use bia
>   Hellotime 3 holdtime 10
>   Next hello sent in 00:00:02.556
>   Hot standby IP address is 10.10.2.200 configured
>   Active router is local
>   Standby router is unknown expired
>   Standby virtual mac address is 0010.7b44.cf41
> 
> interface Ethernet0/0
>  ip address 10.10.2.209 255.0.0.0
>  no ip redirects
>  ip directed-broadcast
>  standby use-bia
>  standby priority 100
>  standby preempt
>  standby ip 10.10.2.200
> 
> Primary-router>#sh standby
> Ethernet0/0 - Group 0
>   Local state is Active, priority 200, may preempt,
> use bia
>   Hellotime 3 holdtime 10
>   Next hello sent in 00:00:01.338
>   Hot standby IP address is 10.10.2.200 configured
>   Active router is local
>   Standby router is unknown expired
>   Standby virtual mac address is 0030.947e.d480
> 
> interface Ethernet0/0
>  description *** Local Area Network Segment ***
>  ip address 172.31.72.200 255.255.255.0 secondary
>  ip address 10.10.2.207 255.0.0.0
>  no ip redirects
>  ip directed-broadcast
>  standby use-bia
>  standby priority 200 preempt
>  standby ip 45.10.2.200
> 
> 
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Re: IP Telephony book!

2000-09-08 Thread FREDL L AZARES


How can I get one if I don't have a customer code?

On Thu, 7 Sep 2000 14:35:11 -0600 "Daniel Boutet"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I had quite a few replies sent to my personal address. Please if you 
> have
> any questions reply to the group.
> Someone else in the group might be interested.
> 
> As far as the Free IP Telephony book:  by doing a search in the 
> archives I
> came up with:
> 
> 
>
http://www.cisco.com/pcgi-bin/lm/buffer/offer/govgameplan/1371_gov_jump/V
458
> -100S1
> 
> I think that the last person to post this link was Ed Farmer. So 
> Thank you
> Ed!
> 
> 
> 
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> IP
> > Telephony book.by Gorolski & Kolon.
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Re: Cisco 805 Router serial port

2000-09-08 Thread Hurin


Here is where the info is:
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/access/acs_fix/805/805hwin/index.htm
Pick Selecting a Serial Cable its all laid out there. 
Just decide on your protocol and the sex of the connector. 
Your may find yourself butting two cables together or making your own
so good luck. 
I really hate that some idiot decided that connector was a "good"
idea.


On 8 Sep 2000 01:34:24 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Greg Reaume") wrote:

>Hi there,
>
>Were you able to find a cable config for what you were looking for?  Do you
>understand the interface and req'd cables enough to provide me with a
>back-to-back fr cloud sim config or a back-to-back-to-back fr switched
>config?
>
>The reason I ask is because I have 2/3 2621s with WIC-2A/S cards in them
>that seem to have this "SmartSerial" interface you are referring to on your
>805.  These are lab routers and I need to find the cables and config to
>achieve a fr sim lab.  Prefferably with all 3 routers to sim a fr switch and
>2 end points.
>
>Any information you could provide me with would be very much appreciated.
>
>TIA,
>
>Greg
>
>
>"Hurin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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>> I have a new 805 that has me stumped. All other serial interfaces Ive
>> seen use a DB-60 connector but this one has one Ive not seen before in
>> fact its not DB-anything. Checked the online cisco docs and have seen
>> no mention of this connector before. Show interfaces does have a
>> serial port for S0 but cant for the life of me figgure out what cable
>> is used here.
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Re: Win2k SNMP Traffic

2000-09-08 Thread joel.studtmann


First off, I admit that I have little knowledge of Win2k.  I installed the
trial edition that came with Technet, played around with it for a little,
and haven't messed with it since.  My organization is still with NT 4.0, and
we aren't migrating for a while.

But:  You say you have PDCs and BDCs, so I'm assuming that you've added the
Win2K machines to the domain.  (Then again, you also said you wanted Win9x
from Dell, so I'm not sure)

In my quick tests with Win2k, I remember that Win2k machines responded to
Server Manager (Showed up as NT 5.0).  If the RPC is still left as default,
and you haven't forced Kerebros authentication, the solution is simple.

>From Server Manager on an NT 4.0 server, highlight the Win2K machine.

Go to File -->  Services.  (Double clicking on the Win2k machine won't do
it)

Stop the SNMP Service, and change the start-up to disabled.  All done.

If the Win2k machines aren't on an NT domain, but you have the
administrative passwords, it can still be done, but it's trickier.

The Win2k resource kit might have a few tools that would be useful, too.

Hope it helps,

Joel Studtmann
MCSE, MCP+I
A+, Network+
CCNA, CCDA
- Original Message -
From: "Deepak Sharma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "cisco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 5:17 AM
Subject: Win2k SNMP Traffic


> Ok here's the scenario.
>
> Multiple branch offices,( LAN, WAN> slowest 56k and  fastest oc3) and
> cisco routers from 1900's to 3600's )
>
> PDC, and a whole lota BDC's.  NT 4.0 PDC and BDCs; still wanna see the
> those computers when I go into network neighbor hood.
> BT.Dell is now shipping all there new Pc's with win2k
> professional, and refuse to go back to win9x for me. ((
> ba*tards))this causes me to have alota headache, cause win2k has
> SNMP traffic enabled by Default when we get them...and now  I can start
> to see all the new win2k machines in network neighbor hood.  This is a
> problem due to security reasons and management and blah blah blah...and
> there's NO possible way I can go, or tell the techy there to go to
> disable SNMP traffic on all the new comps!!!I was thinking about
> goin to all the branch offices and config. the routers to block snmp
> traffic ( port 161 off the top of my head ),
>
> So is there any way i can block SNMP traffic on win2k professional from
> the routers..cause i still wanna see the pdc and bdc's.but this
> is not too important...I just REALLY need to stop those win2k machines
> from appearing on network neighborhood
>
> " access-list 100 deny  snmp win2kpro"   hahah
>
>
> thanks
>
> Deepak Sharma
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RE: BCSN

2000-09-08 Thread William E Gragido


You have to remember that VLANS are logical entitiies, not physical.  The
amount of redundancy that they provide will be inversely related to the
reliability of the physical networks that they are situated in, regardless
of the fact that VLANS in design and concept are used to circumvent said
physical networks.  So if your configuration is solid and your physical
networks are concrete you should be fine.

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Donald B Johnson Jr
> Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 2:56 PM
> To: Jason Baker; 'luobin Yang'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; cslx
> Subject: Re: BCSN
>
>
> Yeah but vlan's don't provide redundant access do they?
> Duck
> - Original Message -
> From: Jason Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 'luobin Yang' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; cslx
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 12:56 AM
> Subject: RE: BCSN
>
>
> > VLAN's are for enhanced security. Nomention of it in E.
> > D would be correct
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Jason Baker
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: luobin Yang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 10:25 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; cslx
> > Subject: Re: BCSN
> >
> >
> > I don't see why D is preferable than E
> >
> > cslx wrote:
> >
> > > if it is a single choice,it is D,otherwise it is D,E
> > > "Donald B Johnson Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > 02c001c0178c$1643b450$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:02c001c0178c$1643b450$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > What would be the right answer to this question.
> > > > I got this off the cisco site and I answered c but they marked it
> rong.
> > I
> > > > think this is a mistake.
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Duck
> > > > VLANs have been designed to _.
> > > >
> > > >   A. address forwarding decisions based on transport layer
> information
> > and
> > > > spanning tree
> > > > scalability
> > > >   B. maximize the amount of traffic switched at Layer 3 and minimize
> the
> > > > amount of traffic switched at Layer 2
> > > >   C. address the scalability issues of a flat network
> topology and the
> > > > addition of network
> > > > management through Layer 3 routing protocols
> > > >   D. address redundant access to the workgroup and migration of
> servers
> > to
> > > > server farms for increased security and management of data resources
> > > >   E. address segmenting broadcast domains while still providing
> > > network-wide
> > > > shared services and allowing users to use hyperlinks to hop
> > transparently
> > > > between servers across enterprise networks
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RE: 802.1Q or ISL

2000-09-08 Thread Ole Drews Jensen


I hate martini Howard.

Anyway, I believe I mean the latency in the switch.

It's kind of, what would be the fastest thing to do:

A) Put a large overcoat on and button 30 buttons.

or

B) Take your coat off, put a vest on with 4 buttons, and put the coat back
on - (no buttons on the coat).

Now consider a line of 1000 guests waiting for you to do A or B on them.
What method would be the fastest to get these people out the door so you
could go to bed?

Have a great weekend,

Ole

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-Original Message-
From: Howard C. Berkowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 9:34 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: 802.1Q or ISL


>Thanks for your reply Tom,
>
>However, according to the book I'm reading, the 802.1Q DOES change the
frame
>size by adding 4 bytes into it.
>
>Take care,
>
>Ole

 From the horse's mouth, 802.1Q:


9.1 Overview
Tagging a frame requires:
a) The addition of a Tag Header to the frame. This header is inserted 
immediately following the Desti-nation
MAC address and Source MAC address (and Routing, if present) fields 
of the frame to be
transmitted;


To return to your original question, Ole, when you speak of 
optimizing resource use, what do you consider the scarce resource? 
Other than in the martini-soaked brain (if I may use the term) of an 
overly zealous salesdroid, you can't optimize for everything at once. 
Save me from "specialists in all cars, foreign and domestic."

Some optimizations could include:

Bandwidth overhead
  Frame length
  Overhead frames (BPDU, for example)
Latency in the switch
  Input serialization
  Processing
  Internal forwarding
  Output serialization
Ease of use
Interoperability

Which do you want to optimize?
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Tom Walstrom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 6:30 AM
>To: Ole Drews Jensen; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: 802.1Q or ISL
>
>
>Ole,
>
>ISL encapsulates the frame adding, as you said, a 26 byte header and a 4
>byte CRC trailer.  802.1Q frame-tagging does not change the frame size
>(hence its interoperability, because it appears as a standard ethernet
frame
>to non-802.1Q devices), but does modify the existing frame with VLAN
>identification information.
>
>I would suspect that the real reason to deploy ISL is that it runs one
>spanning tree per vlan where 802.1Q runs only one spanning tree.  Also ISL
>allows bonding into etherchannels.  Seems like this would be more likely to
>make a difference on the network.  I would think you would only do 802.1Q
>where interoperability was the issue, like with a Catalyst 4000 which I
>believe only supports 802.1Q.  Maybe some switch guru could further
>illuminate this issue.
>
>Regards,
>
>Tom
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Ole Drews Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 1:38 PM
>
>Just a thought. - Digging through another book towards the light at the end
>of the tunnel, I have now added VLAN Trunc Links to my knowledge. That has
>brought this question up in my mind, so I would like to hear some feedback
>on this subject.
>
>I know that much of this depends on the average frame sizes, so lets say
>that I have analyzed my network, and the average frame size is 800. Lets
>also say that we are only dealing with Cisco Catalyst switches in this
>scenario.
>
>The question is, what would be least resource-waste to use as a trunking
>link : ISL or 802.1Q???
>
>The 802.1Q has to break the frame open to modify it, but it adds only 4
>bytes to each frame.
>
>The ISL does not have to break the frame open because it simply
encapsulates
>it into a new one, but it adds 30 bytes to each frame.
>
>Any comments on this?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Ole

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ATM deaming/line encoding problem

2000-09-08 Thread Hans Stout


Hello colleagues,

I have a problem with my ATM connection from my Cisco router to a Cisco BPX 
ATM switch. When I look at the line on the switch, the line status is ok. 
When I run the 'sh cont atm 1/0' command, I get the following output (maybe 
anybody as an idea on where the error could be); I know this is going to be 
a very long mail, but I can't help it:

zrh-atm#sh contr atm1/0
Interface ATM1/0 is down
  Hardware is ATM E1
LANE client MAC address is 0002.4b76.0dd0
  hwidb=0x81472004, ds=0x8148C564
  slot 1, unit 0, subunit 0
  rs8234 base 0x4080, slave base 0x4080
  rs8234 ds 0x8148C564
  SBDs - avail 2048, guaranteed 1, unguaranteed 2047, starved 0
Seg VCC table 4080B800, Shadow Seg VCC Table 814A8380, VCD Table
814BE3AC
Schedule table 40816800, Shadow Schedule table 814C43D8, Size 7CD
RSM VCC Table 4082BD00, Shadow RSM VCC Table 814C9414
VPI Index Table 40829280, VCI Index Table 4082B900
Bucket2 Table 40820480, Shadow Bucket2 Table 814C6338
MCR Limit Table 40820880, Shadow MCR Table 814C7F64
ABR template 40820A80, Shadow template 811FF798
RM Cell RS Queue 40829900
Queue   TXQ Addr  Pos  StQ Addr  Pos
0  UBR CHN0 40825A80  0028B4EA0  0
1  UBR CHN1 40825E80  0028B56A0  0
2  UBR CHN2 40826280  0028B5EA0  0
3  UBR CHN3 40826680  0028B66A0  0
4  VBR/ABR CHN0 40826A80  0028B6EA0  0
5  VBR/ABR CHN1 40826E80  0028B76A0  0
6  VBR/ABR CHN2 40827280  0028B7EA0  0
7  VBR/ABR CHN3 40827680  0028B86A0  0
8  VBR-RT CHN0  40827A80  0028B8EA0  0
9  VBR-RT CHN1  40827E80  0028B96A0  0
10 VBR-RT CHN2  40828280  0028B9EA0  0
11 VBR-RT CHN3  40828680  0028BA6A0  0
12 SIG  40828A80  0028BAEA0  0
13 VPD  40828E80  0028BB6A0  0

Queue   FBQ Addr  Pos  RSQ Addr  Pos
0  OAM  408EBD00  132  028BBF60  133
1  UBR CHN0 408ECD00  0028BCF60  0
2  UBR CHN1 408EDD00  0028BDF60  0
3  UBR CHN2 408EED00  0028BEF60  0
4  UBR CHN3 408EFD00  0028BFF60  0
5  VBR/ABR CHN0 408F0D00  8028C0F60  9
6  VBR/ABR CHN1 408F1D00  0028C1F60  0
7  VBR/ABR CHN2 408F2D00  0028C2F60  0
8  VBR/ABR CHN3 408F3D00  0028C3F60  0
9  VBR-RT CHN0  408F4D00  0028C4F60  0
10 VBR-RT CHN1  408F5D00  0028C5F60  0
11 VBR-RT CHN2  408F6D00  0028C6F60  0
12 VBR-RT CHN3  408F7D00  0028C7F60  0
13 SIG  408F8D00  0028C8F60  0
SAR Scheduling channels:  -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1
ATM channel number is 0
Link 0 IMA Info:
   group index is 99
   Tx link id is 0, Tx link state is notInGroup
   Rx link id is 99, Rx link state is notInGroup
Rx link failure status is noFailure,
0 tx failures, 1 rx failures
Link 0 Framer Info:
framing is Multiframe-CRC4, line code is HDB3, impedance is 120 ohm
clock src is line, payload-scrambling is enabled, no loopback
line status is 0x420; or Rx LOF, Tx LOMF.
port is active, link is unavailable
36213058 idle rx, 1917 correctable hec rx, 309882 uncorrectable hec
rx
2248 cells rx, 0 cells tx, 0 rx fifo overrun.
Link (0):DS1 MIB DATA:
  Data in current interval (298 seconds elapsed):
 0 Line Code Violations, 0 Path Code Violations
 0 Slip Secs, 331 Fr Loss Secs, 0 Line Err Secs, 0 Degraded Mins
 0 Errored Secs, 0 Bursty Err Secs, 0 Severely Err Secs, 332 Unavail
Secs
  Total Data (last 9 15 minute intervals):
 8191 Line Code Violations, 0 Path Code Violations,
 0 Slip Secs, 8100 Fr Loss Secs, 1 Line Err Secs, 0 Degraded Mins,
 0 Errored Secs, 0 Bursty Err Secs, 0 Severely Err Secs, 8100
Unavail Secs
SAR counter totals across all links and groups:
   0 cells output, 0 cells stripped

zrh-atm#sh

I also include the configuration of the router:

sho run
Building configuration...

Current configuration:
!
version 12.0
service timestamps debug uptime
service timestamps log uptime
service password-encryption
!
hostname zrh-atm
!
logging buffered 4096 debugging
enable secret 5 *
!
!
!
!
ip subnet-zero
!
!
!
interface FastEthernet0/0
ip address ***.***.***.*** 255.255.255.0
no ip redirects
no ip directed-broadcast
ip accounting output-packets
duplex auto
speed auto
!
interface FastEthernet0/1
no ip address
no ip directed-broadcast
shutdown
duplex auto
speed auto
!
interface ATM1/0
description ATM MCIWORLDCOM Main Interface 2 Mbit/s
no ip address
no ip directed-broadcast
load-interval 60
no atm ilmi-keepalive
scrambling-payload
impedance 120-ohm
!
interface ATM1/0.1 point-to-point
description ATM MCIWORLDCOM PVC Link to Walldorf
bandwidth 2048
ip address ***.***.***.*** 255.255.255.252
no ip directed-broadcast
pvc 8/1
  vbr-nrt 1854 1854 1
  no ilmi manage
  oam-pvc 60
  encapsulation aal5snap
!
!
interface ATM1/1
no ip address
no ip directed-broadcast
shutdown
no atm ilmi-keepalive
scrambling-payload
impedance 120-ohm
!
interface ATM1/2
no ip address
no ip directed-broadcast
shutdown
no atm ilmi-keepalive
scrambling-payload
impedance 120-ohm
!
interface ATM1/3
no ip address
no ip d

CCIE CIM

2000-09-08 Thread Raymond Smith




Have anyone in this forum used any of the CIM CD-Rom for preparation for 
the CCIE?  If so, can you say how helpful it is toward preparing for the 
CCIE?  Peace!
 
 
Ray

Re: what is dark fiber?

2000-09-08 Thread Ty Hill

Depends on who you are talking to.  To me dark fiber means 1. fiber strands
that are currently not in use, or 2.  private fiber that you or your company
has installed, that is not part of the local telephone company's
infrastructure.
This is how I have been using the term for over 15 years.

"Yee, Jason" wrote:

> I think dark fibre means a OC3 or OC12 link
>
> Jason
>
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 12:04 AM
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> Subject: what is dark fiber?
>
> hi.
> what is dark fiber?
> i found some sites that says dark fiber means unused fiber.
> is it so?
> i think dark fiber must be different then unused fiber.
> i mean for example. 10gigabit ethernet runs on dark fiber.
> dark must be something related to bandwidth or wavelength.
>
> if someone knows dark fiber definition i ll be happy.
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ISDN

2000-09-08 Thread Peter Gray


I am having problem with ISDN connection. Even though I see active Layer 1 & 
Layer 2status I am unable to ping my local ISDN interface.
Router#sh isdn stat
Global ISDN Switchtype = basic-ni
ISDN BRI0/0 interface
dsl 0, interface ISDN Switchtype = basic-ni
Layer 1 Status:
ACTIVE
Layer 2 Status:
TEI = 109, Ces = 1, SAPI = 0, State = MULTIPLE_FRAME_ESTABLISHED
TEI = 111, Ces = 2, SAPI = 0, State = MULTIPLE_FRAME_ESTABLISHED
Spid Status:
TEI 109, ces = 1, state = 8(established)
spid1 configured, no LDN, spid1 sent, spid1 valid
Endpoint ID Info: epsf = 0, usid = 70, tid = 0
TEI 111, ces = 2, state = 8(established)
spid2 configured, no LDN, spid2 sent, spid2 valid
Endpoint ID Info: epsf = 0, usid = 71, tid = 0
Layer 3 Status:
0 Active Layer 3 Call(s)
Activated dsl 0 CCBs = 0
Total Allocated ISDN CCBs = 0

Is this any carrier realted problem? What else can I do to troubleshoot 
this.

Thanks...
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Re: Decreasing # of CCIE's Worldwide

2000-09-08 Thread Jon


My thoughts on the subject are rather simple.

You see alot of IT people with 3, 4, 5, even 6 certs after their name.
I am sure you are going to ask these people what real life Cisco experience
they have.

When an Internetwork Expert signs his name all you see after is CCIE .

Do you really need to know more?

Jon




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HSRP and ISDN backups

2000-09-08 Thread h . braimoh


Hi all, Quick question, is it possible to have an ISDN backup router to 3
remote sites , backing up frame-relay cct. on separate routers, without
implementing HSRP, and if so, how will the back up router bring up the ISDN
link when the frame-relay goes down. I have been told by my boss that
implementing HSRP is not a viable option in this situation. EIGRP is the
routing protocol. Can anyone plase explain this to me please.


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FW: HSRP problem

2000-09-08 Thread David Toalson


I have two 7505 running HSRP and actually have two standby groups in the
config - one for use and the second for failover.  We have even had it
failover once or twice in the 3 years I have worked with it.  Our Cicso
SE was instrumental in getting it set up and working.  I hope this
helps.

Router 1 - main router

interface Ethernet1/0/0
 ip address 10.10.10.252 255.255.255.0
 ip helper-address 10.10.11.1
 no ip redirects
 delay 2000
 standby 1 priority 100
 standby 1 preempt
 standby 1 authentication bcbs
 standby 1 ip 10.10.10.251
 standby 2 priority 90
 standby 2 preempt
 standby 2 authentication bcbs
 standby 2 ip 10.10.10.254

Router 2 - failover

interface Ethernet1/0/0
 ip address 10.10.10.250 255.255.255.0
 ip helper-address 10.10.11.1
 no ip redirects
 bandwidth 1
 delay 2000
 standby 1 priority 90
 standby 1 preempt
 standby 1 authentication bcbs
 standby 1 ip 10.10.10.251
 standby 2 priority 100
 standby 2 preempt
 standby 2 authentication bcbs
 standby 2 ip 10.10.10.254

> --
> From: Paul Montgomery[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Reply To: Paul Montgomery
> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 9:54 AM
> To:   'Bill O'Brien'
> Cc:   '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject:  RE: HSRP problem
> 
> 
> Bill,
> 
> Thanks for your response. I actually had a group number in an earlier
> config. I took it out after looking at a sample config on the cisco
> web site
> (http://cisco.com/warp/public/619/1.html)
> 
> Either way it didn't work.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Paul.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Bill O'Brien [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 03:43
> To: Paul Montgomery
> Subject: Re: HSRP problem
> 
> 
> Paul,
> 
> I think you need a number after standby to associate a
> group so both router know there in the same group
> 
> e0
> 
> standby 1 ip 10.10.10.1
> standby 1 preempt
> standby 1 priority 100
> 
> 
> e0
> 
> standby 1 ip 10.10.10.1
> standby 1 preempt 
> standby 1 priority 200
> 
> Bill
> 
> 
> --- Paul Montgomery
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Dear Group,
> > 
> > I am experiencing difficulty with implementing HSRP
> > on a couple of 3640s. I
> > have set this up using configurations that have been
> > working previously.
> > Both routers are connected to Nortel 10/100
> > autosensing switches (separate
> > but in the same stack). I have no VLANs or
> > segmentation set up on the
> > switches. I have set up debugging on the standby on
> > both routers. What I see
> > is only the outgoing hello packets. I do not see the
> > incoming hello packets,
> > consequently both routers think the other is down
> > and therefore takes up
> > the active router role. I have tried to do a
> > multicast ping to 224.0.0.2
> > which I believe is the multicast group address that
> > HSRP uses without
> > success.
> > 
> > I have attached the relevent bits of config below.
> > 
> > If anyone could shed any light on this curious
> > problem I would be most
> > grateful.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Standby router
> > 
> > standby-router>#sh standby
> > Ethernet0/0 - Group 0
> >   Local state is Active, priority 100, may preempt,
> > use bia
> >   Hellotime 3 holdtime 10
> >   Next hello sent in 00:00:02.556
> >   Hot standby IP address is 10.10.2.200 configured
> >   Active router is local
> >   Standby router is unknown expired
> >   Standby virtual mac address is 0010.7b44.cf41
> > 
> > interface Ethernet0/0
> >  ip address 10.10.2.209 255.0.0.0
> >  no ip redirects
> >  ip directed-broadcast
> >  standby use-bia
> >  standby priority 100
> >  standby preempt
> >  standby ip 10.10.2.200
> > 
> > Primary-router>#sh standby
> > Ethernet0/0 - Group 0
> >   Local state is Active, priority 200, may preempt,
> > use bia
> >   Hellotime 3 holdtime 10
> >   Next hello sent in 00:00:01.338
> >   Hot standby IP address is 10.10.2.200 configured
> >   Active router is local
> >   Standby router is unknown expired
> >   Standby virtual mac address is 0030.947e.d480
> > 
> > interface Ethernet0/0
> >  description *** Local Area Network Segment ***
> >  ip address 172.31.72.200 255.255.255.0 secondary
> >  ip address 10.10.2.207 255.0.0.0
> >  no ip redirects
> >  ip directed-broadcast
> >  standby use-bia
> >  standby priority 200 preempt
> >  standby ip 45.10.2.200
> > 
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Re: what is dark fiber?

2000-09-08 Thread Cthulu, CCIE Candidate

Actually, none of you are right!  Here's the only correct and right answer:

Dark fiber is when you poke an active SMF strand in your eye and blind
yourself in at least 1 eye.  Immediately after, you will stumble around in
the dark, tripping over the fiber that blinded you, hence the term, "dark
fiber."Interestingly enough, the term was coined by a Microsoft employee
working on a Nortel switch trying to connect to an IBM PS/2 to print to an
Apple LaserWriter.  There, I have insulted enough of the industry.

On a more serious note, taken from www.whatis.com website:

Dark fiber is optical fiber infrastructure (cabling and repeater) that is
currently in place but is not being used. Optical fiber conveys information
in the form of light pulses so the "dark" means no light pulses are being
sent. Dark fiber can refer to infrastructure that is in place but not yet
ready to use. For example, some electric utilities have installed optical
fiber cable where they already have power lines installed in the expectation
that they can lease the infrastructure to telephone or cable TV companies or
use it to interconnect their own offices. To the extent that these
installations are unused, they are described as dark.
"Dark fiber service" is service provided by local exchange carriers (local
exchange carrier) for the maintenance of optical fiber transmission capacity
between customer locations in which the light for the fiber is provided by
the customer rather than the LEC.

Works for me!  Dark fiber = any piece of INSTALLED fiber not lit up.  Your
carrier may or may not offer protection against backhoe cowboys who would
trench ya fiber right out of the ground...seriously!

Fibers, I mean, flames, to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Charles

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> Depends on who you are talking to.  To me dark fiber means 1. fiber
strands
> that are currently not in use, or 2.  private fiber that you or your
company
> has installed, that is not part of the local telephone company's
> infrastructure.
> This is how I have been using the term for over 15 years.
>
>
>
> "Yee, Jason" wrote:
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> > I think dark fibre means a OC3 or OC12 link
> >
> > Jason
> >
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> >
> > hi.
> > what is dark fiber?
> > i found some sites that says dark fiber means unused fiber.
> > is it so?
> > i think dark fiber must be different then unused fiber.
> > i mean for example. 10gigabit ethernet runs on dark fiber.
> > dark must be something related to bandwidth or wavelength.
> >
> > if someone knows dark fiber definition i ll be happy.
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RE: ISDN

2000-09-08 Thread Daniel Cotts


http://www.cisco.com/networkers/presentations/dialaccess/index.html
Watch the word wrap.
Download the "Troubleshooting ISDN" presentation.

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> Subject: ISDN 
> 
> 
> I am having problem with ISDN connection. Even though I see 
> active Layer 1 & 
> Layer 2status I am unable to ping my local ISDN interface.
> Router#sh isdn stat
> Global ISDN Switchtype = basic-ni
> ISDN BRI0/0 interface
> dsl 0, interface ISDN Switchtype = basic-ni
> Layer 1 Status:
> ACTIVE
> Layer 2 Status:
> TEI = 109, Ces = 1, SAPI = 0, State = 
> MULTIPLE_FRAME_ESTABLISHED
> TEI = 111, Ces = 2, SAPI = 0, State = 
> MULTIPLE_FRAME_ESTABLISHED
> Spid Status:
> TEI 109, ces = 1, state = 8(established)
> spid1 configured, no LDN, spid1 sent, spid1 valid
> Endpoint ID Info: epsf = 0, usid = 70, tid = 0
> TEI 111, ces = 2, state = 8(established)
> spid2 configured, no LDN, spid2 sent, spid2 valid
> Endpoint ID Info: epsf = 0, usid = 71, tid = 0
> Layer 3 Status:
> 0 Active Layer 3 Call(s)
> Activated dsl 0 CCBs = 0
> Total Allocated ISDN CCBs = 0
> 
> Is this any carrier realted problem? What else can I do to 
> troubleshoot 
> this.
> 
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> Peter
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RE: Protocol Analyzer and Sniffers

2000-09-08 Thread J. Oquendo

Sniffer Pro from NAI can handle ATM OC3-12 Gigabit SX, LX Packet over Sonet and more 
check them out at www.nai.com

p.s. I have no affiliation with them so save the flames

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Subject: Protocol Analyzer and Sniffers

Hello group, does anyone know of any Analyzers, probes or sniffers that
that would support (DWDM) Division Wave Division Multiplexing, ATM,
Sonnet, Gigabit and Fasteternet.

Thanks
Fred Thomas

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Re: Drive, Motivation and Determination !!!!!!!!


I totally agree with you Terrence. I do not have the opportunity to work
with Cisco Products except AccessPro cards (2).
I also just started my own consulting firm, so it is not easy to be able to
buy the right equipment to paractice on. (NO $ available right now)

I have other certs CNE (3,4,5), MCSE, A+ where I get to practice my skills
everyday.
I also have CCA but do not get to work on Citrix anymore. Not a lot of firms
know about this product Citrix doesn't even have a demo version for labs.
All they provide is a virtual demo room in FLA.

There is also a time factor. I dedicate my time to working and trying to
build a customer base. The time that I can spend in my lab is minimal.
When you decide to study certification like Cisco it would be nice that
Cisco would let us use their lab. After all we are supporting their
products.
Wouldn't it make sense for them to want certified people that at least saw
their products (inside and out) and have minimal hands on?

When I first started this certification I phone my local Cisco office and
asked them if they had a lab I could use. I was turned away as if I was
crazy.
How is a person suppose to get real hands on in Edmonton Alberta? After I
get more knowledge (books) I will try to give my time freely to get some
experience.

Just my two cents.




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> lets face it. Any Certification that has no lab
> can be obtained by an average person with ENOUGH
> study. The CCIE can be passed if one has access to
> the right equipment. There is NEVER a need to take
> a class or have real experience. . .unless of course
> you actually want to be good at your job. Having said
> that, merely obtaining a cert like the CCNP or MCSE or
> CCNA is of some value depending on the depth of the
> job one needs to perform and the ability of an individual
> to translate theory into practice. Some people can do
> this better than others, but it depends on the individual
> and have much drive, motivation and determination one
> has. In the end, it is drive, motivation and determination
> that makes anyone good at whatever it is they do. . .Cert
> or not, degree or not, smart or average.
>
>
> >From: "Rishard Chapoteau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> >Subject: Re: Anyone achieve their CCIE through self study not from work!
> >Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 16:02:35 -0400
> >
> >So your telling us you got your CCNP with no experience at all?  I
> >seriously
> >hope not.
> >
> >Rishard
> >
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> > >
> > > Now I finished my CCNP.   I should go for the CCIE,
> >otherwise
> >my
> > > ccnp status is just a paperwork.
> > > I just wondering does CCIE can be earned through self study, not from
> > > working with system integrator?
> > >
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Re: cisco load director

2000-09-08 Thread Henry Ngo


It seems that your loadbalancing from the inside is not working.  You will
have to verify that it's working on your internal network first before even
trying from the Internet.  From the failure to telnet from the inside, that
seems to be the case.  Anyway, I think your problem might be in the case
where you only have 1 interface configured.  The way I did it was to bridge
the traffic between 2 interfaces so that all traffic from the web servers
will have to go through the LD otherwise it can't keep track of what's going
on.  It's possible in you configuration, the server got the requests but
respond directly to the requester and bypassing the LD.

My $.02

Henry Ngo


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> yes the conduits have been setup ..
>
> regds
> Pushkar
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> > you are going from an outside to an inside on the pix, do you have
conuits
> > on the pix setup?
> >
> >
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> > > hi friends,
> > > i have a strange prob. i have a cisco load director 416 ... and have a
> > very
> > > simple config. i have a firewall whose one interface is to the
internet
> > and
> > > one to the internal n/w ... as usual .. nothing diff.  . and
inside
> on
> > > the n/w i have one load director and 2 web servers which i want to
load
> > > balance ...
> > >
> > > i have natted the virtual IP in the firewall to a public IP .. and
> opened
> > > port 80 for incoming hits  now this virtual IP is bound to the 2
web
> > > servers ...
> > >
> > > but the prob is that i donot get any inbound connections from outside
..
> > > also when i tried to telnet to port 80 of the virtual IP from inside
> also
> > ..
> > > i'm unable to do so ...
> > >
> > > also i have connected only one ethernet cable from the first ethernet
> > > interface on the LAN .. do i have to connect another cable from the
> second
> > > interface even though they are in the same n/w ??
> > >
> > > please can anyone help out ... this is ans SOS situation ..
> > > the config file is below .. please take a look ...
> > >
> > > Pushkar
> > > ---
> > > : Saved
> > > : LocalDirector 416 Version 3.1.4
> > > syslog output 20.3
> > > no syslog console
> > > enable password 4d9b64f9ab66474af34252545443b8 encrypted
> > > hostname web_ld
> > > no shutdown ethernet 0
> > > no shutdown ethernet 1
> > > shutdown ethernet 2
> > > interface ethernet 0 auto
> > > interface ethernet 1 auto
> > > interface ethernet 2 auto
> > > mtu 0 1500
> > > mtu 1 1500
> > > mtu 2 1500
> > > multiring all
> > > no secure  0
> > > no secure  1
> > > no secure  2
> > > no ping-allow 0
> > > no ping-allow 1
> > > no ping-allow 2
> > > ip address 172.16.0.254 255.255.255.0
> > > no rip passive
> > > rip version 1
> > > failover ip address 0.0.0.0
> > > no failover
> > > password cisco
> > > snmp-server enable traps
> > > no snmp-server contact
> > > no snmp-server location
> > > virtual 172.16.0.253:80:0:tcp is
> > > virtual 172.16.0.253:443:0:tcp is
> > > real 172.16.0.4:80:0:tcp is
> > > real 172.16.0.10:80:0:tcp is
> > > name 172.16.0.4 web1
> > > name 172.16.0.10 web2
> > > name 172.16.0.253 domain
> > > bind 172.16.0.253:80:0:tcp 172.16.0.4:80:0:tcp
> > > bind 172.16.0.253:80:0:tcp 172.16.0.10:80:0:tcp
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Re: Decreasing # of CCIE's Worldwide

2000-09-08 Thread Cthulu, CCIE Candidate


Well, sometimes, it would be nice if that CCIE would put his Zodiac sign
AFTER CCIE .  I mean, it would make genuflection so much easier!

It's nice to know that Cisco is dedicated to keeping the CCIE valuable in
terms of technical prowess and marketability.  I wonder if they will
reassign the numbers that get "decertified"?  It would be cool to become
CCIE 1024.

LOL

Charles



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> My thoughts on the subject are rather simple.
>
> You see alot of IT people with 3, 4, 5, even 6 certs after their name.
> I am sure you are going to ask these people what real life Cisco
experience
> they have.
>
> When an Internetwork Expert signs his name all you see after is CCIE .
>
> Do you really need to know more?
>
> Jon
>
>
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RE: 802.1Q or ISL


Yes, it's true, .1Q adds 4 bytes. The TPID and TCI fields look like this:

Tag Protocol Identifier (TPID) 2 bytes
 - fixed value of 0x8100 16 bits
Tag Control Information (TCI)  2 bytes
 - User Prioroty 3 bits
 - Canonical FFormat Indicator (CFI) 1 bit
 - VLAN Identifier   12 bits


An Ethernet frame of maximum size (1518 bytes) that gets tagged with .1Q 
VLAN info is now 4 bytes too big (1522 bytes). This frame is called a "baby 
giant". Switches can handle the frame correctly, but it may also generate an 
error statistic. This might not be a big deal unless you have lots of them 
and you have certain alarm thresholds set in your management system...

One other thing - ISL will only encapsulate frames that exit the switch on a 
trunk port, while .1Q tags get added to all frames (as I recall... somebody 
might want to check me on this).

Dale
[=`)

>From: Ole Drews Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Ole Drews Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "'Tom Walstrom'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,Ole Drews Jensen  
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: 802.1Q or ISL
>Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 07:40:46 -0500
>
>Thanks for your reply Tom,
>
>However, according to the book I'm reading, the 802.1Q DOES change the 
>frame
>size by adding 4 bytes into it.
>
>Take care,
>
>Ole
>
>
>  Ole Drews Jensen
>  Systems Network Manager
>  CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
>  RWR Enterprises, Inc.
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>-Original Message-
>From: Tom Walstrom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 6:30 AM
>To: Ole Drews Jensen; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: 802.1Q or ISL
>
>
>Ole,
>
>ISL encapsulates the frame adding, as you said, a 26 byte header and a 4
>byte CRC trailer.  802.1Q frame-tagging does not change the frame size
>(hence its interoperability, because it appears as a standard ethernet 
>frame
>to non-802.1Q devices), but does modify the existing frame with VLAN
>identification information.
>
>I would suspect that the real reason to deploy ISL is that it runs one
>spanning tree per vlan where 802.1Q runs only one spanning tree.  Also ISL
>allows bonding into etherchannels.  Seems like this would be more likely to
>make a difference on the network.  I would think you would only do 802.1Q
>where interoperability was the issue, like with a Catalyst 4000 which I
>believe only supports 802.1Q.  Maybe some switch guru could further
>illuminate this issue.
>
>Regards,
>
>Tom
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Ole Drews Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 1:38 PM
>To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
>Subject: 802.1Q or ISL
>
>
>Just a thought. - Digging through another book towards the light at the end
>of the tunnel, I have now added VLAN Trunc Links to my knowledge. That has
>brought this question up in my mind, so I would like to hear some feedback
>on this subject.
>
>I know that much of this depends on the average frame sizes, so lets say
>that I have analyzed my network, and the average frame size is 800. Lets
>also say that we are only dealing with Cisco Catalyst switches in this
>scenario.
>
>The question is, what would be least resource-waste to use as a trunking
>link : ISL or 802.1Q???
>
>The 802.1Q has to break the frame open to modify it, but it adds only 4
>bytes to each frame.
>
>The ISL does not have to break the frame open because it simply 
>encapsulates
>it into a new one, but it adds 30 bytes to each frame.
>
>Any comments on this?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Ole
>
>~~
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RE: Decreasing # of CCIE's Worldwide

2000-09-08 Thread Hornbeck, Timothy


That's a good hypothesis.  If the majority of the corporations (network
end-users) don't have a need for an employee at the CCIE level (for
technology reasons and due to the high salary requirements).  Then a
CCNP/CCDP with experience at a lower salary requirement makes perfect sense.

- Tim Hornbeck

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Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 10:53 AM
To: vlan 2; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Decreasing # of CCIE's Worldwide


lol!!!  You can't be serious.

-
>From: Robert Padjen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>
>Might it also mean that people are finding that the
>certification is not as important in this market and
>that the 'lower' level certifications, along with
>'real' world experience, provide a greater benefit to
>corporations and providers?
>

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RE: ATM deaming/line encoding problem

2000-09-08 Thread Daniel Cotts


I'm running 11.1 IOS so configs may have changed. The lack of map-group and
associated map-list is one difference between the configs.

interface ATM12/0
 description Location TGE. Always node 1. 
 no ip address
!
interface ATM12/0.1 multipoint
 description pvc to TGN
 ip address xxx.yyy.7.249 255.255.255.252 secondary
 ip address 10.18.35.1 255.255.255.0
 map-group TGE
 appletalk cable-range 35-35 35.1
 appletalk zone ATM
 atm pvc 1 0 35 aal5snap

map-list TGE
 ip 10.18.35.4 atm-vc 1 broadcast
 appletalk 35.4 atm-vc 1 broadcast
 ip xxx.yyy.7.250 atm-vc 1 broadcast

> -Original Message-
> From: Hans Stout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 12:10 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: ATM deaming/line encoding problem
> 
> 
> Hello colleagues,
> 
> I have a problem with my ATM connection from my Cisco router 
> to a Cisco BPX 
> ATM switch. When I look at the line on the switch, the line 
> status is ok. 
> When I run the 'sh cont atm 1/0' command, I get the following 
> output (maybe 
> anybody as an idea on where the error could be); I know this 
> is going to be 
> a very long mail, but I can't help it:
> 
> zrh-atm#sh contr atm1/0
> Interface ATM1/0 is down
>   Hardware is ATM E1
> LANE client MAC address is 0002.4b76.0dd0
>   hwidb=0x81472004, ds=0x8148C564
>   slot 1, unit 0, subunit 0
>   rs8234 base 0x4080, slave base 0x4080
>   rs8234 ds 0x8148C564
>   SBDs - avail 2048, guaranteed 1, unguaranteed 2047, starved 0
> Seg VCC table 4080B800, Shadow Seg VCC Table 814A8380, VCD Table
> 814BE3AC
> Schedule table 40816800, Shadow Schedule table 814C43D8, Size 7CD
> RSM VCC Table 4082BD00, Shadow RSM VCC Table 814C9414
> VPI Index Table 40829280, VCI Index Table 4082B900
> Bucket2 Table 40820480, Shadow Bucket2 Table 814C6338
> MCR Limit Table 40820880, Shadow MCR Table 814C7F64
> ABR template 40820A80, Shadow template 811FF798
> RM Cell RS Queue 40829900
> Queue   TXQ Addr  Pos  StQ Addr  Pos
> 0  UBR CHN0 40825A80  0028B4EA0  0
> 1  UBR CHN1 40825E80  0028B56A0  0
> 2  UBR CHN2 40826280  0028B5EA0  0
> 3  UBR CHN3 40826680  0028B66A0  0
> 4  VBR/ABR CHN0 40826A80  0028B6EA0  0
> 5  VBR/ABR CHN1 40826E80  0028B76A0  0
> 6  VBR/ABR CHN2 40827280  0028B7EA0  0
> 7  VBR/ABR CHN3 40827680  0028B86A0  0
> 8  VBR-RT CHN0  40827A80  0028B8EA0  0
> 9  VBR-RT CHN1  40827E80  0028B96A0  0
> 10 VBR-RT CHN2  40828280  0028B9EA0  0
> 11 VBR-RT CHN3  40828680  0028BA6A0  0
> 12 SIG  40828A80  0028BAEA0  0
> 13 VPD  40828E80  0028BB6A0  0
> 
> Queue   FBQ Addr  Pos  RSQ Addr  Pos
> 0  OAM  408EBD00  132  028BBF60  133
> 1  UBR CHN0 408ECD00  0028BCF60  0
> 2  UBR CHN1 408EDD00  0028BDF60  0
> 3  UBR CHN2 408EED00  0028BEF60  0
> 4  UBR CHN3 408EFD00  0028BFF60  0
> 5  VBR/ABR CHN0 408F0D00  8028C0F60  9
> 6  VBR/ABR CHN1 408F1D00  0028C1F60  0
> 7  VBR/ABR CHN2 408F2D00  0028C2F60  0
> 8  VBR/ABR CHN3 408F3D00  0028C3F60  0
> 9  VBR-RT CHN0  408F4D00  0028C4F60  0
> 10 VBR-RT CHN1  408F5D00  0028C5F60  0
> 11 VBR-RT CHN2  408F6D00  0028C6F60  0
> 12 VBR-RT CHN3  408F7D00  0028C7F60  0
> 13 SIG  408F8D00  0028C8F60  0
> SAR Scheduling channels:  -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1
> ATM channel number is 0
> Link 0 IMA Info:
>group index is 99
>Tx link id is 0, Tx link state is notInGroup
>Rx link id is 99, Rx link state is notInGroup
> Rx link failure status is noFailure,
> 0 tx failures, 1 rx failures
> Link 0 Framer Info:
> framing is Multiframe-CRC4, line code is HDB3, impedance 
> is 120 ohm
> clock src is line, payload-scrambling is enabled, no loopback
> line status is 0x420; or Rx LOF, Tx LOMF.
> port is active, link is unavailable
> 36213058 idle rx, 1917 correctable hec rx, 309882 
> uncorrectable hec
> rx
> 2248 cells rx, 0 cells tx, 0 rx fifo overrun.
> Link (0):DS1 MIB DATA:
>   Data in current interval (298 seconds elapsed):
>  0 Line Code Violations, 0 Path Code Violations
>  0 Slip Secs, 331 Fr Loss Secs, 0 Line Err Secs, 0 Degraded Mins
>  0 Errored Secs, 0 Bursty Err Secs, 0 Severely Err Secs, 
> 332 Unavail
> Secs
>   Total Data (last 9 15 minute intervals):
>  8191 Line Code Violations, 0 Path Code Violations,
>  0 Slip Secs, 8100 Fr Loss Secs, 1 Line Err Secs, 0 Degraded Mins,
>  0 Errored Secs, 0 Bursty Err Secs, 0 Severely Err Secs, 8100
> Unavail Secs
> SAR counter totals across all links and groups:
>0 cells output, 0 cells stripped
> 
> zrh-atm#sh
> 
> I also include the configuration of the router:
> 
> sho run
> Building configuration...
> 
> Current configuration:
> !
> version 12.0
> service timestamps debug uptime
> service timestamps log uptime
> service password-encryption
> !
> hostname zrh-atm
> !
> logging buffered 4096 debugging
> enable secret 5 *
> !
> !
> !
> !
> ip su

Switch 2901 Password Recovery - Pls help !!

2000-09-08 Thread Ashfaq Aslam


Hi,

I have lost my password for Cisco 2901 Switch.  Can someone please tell
me how to do a password recovery for Cisco 2901 Swich?

Thanks for your help !!!

Rgds,
Ash

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Retiring my number (was: Decreasing # of CCIE's Worlwide)


PS - in reply to Chris Hagen - the recert process involves only a written 
exam, you don't have to take the lab again... It's true about the 
discounts... there is much motivation on the part of Cisco partners to keep 
CCIE's current and on staff.

What I wanna know is, when a CCIE retires, do they retire his number too 
(like with sports heroes)???


>From: "Miller, Nathan (AZ15)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Miller, Nathan (AZ15)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: Dick Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: Decreasing # of CCIE's Worlwide
>Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 07:29:48 -0700
>
>I have heard that Cisco significantly discounts the proice of support
>contracts to companies with current CCIEs.  If this is true it is one 
>reason
>why keeping the cert current increases marketability.
>Nathan Miller
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Dick Silva [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 6:21 PM
>To: Chris Hagen; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Decreasing # of CCIE's Worlwide
>
>
>/
>Another question is...Has an employer ever asked "is your CCIE current"?
>\
>-Original Message-
>From: Chris Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Thursday, September 07, 2000 7:12 PM
>Subject: Re: Decreasing # of CCIE's Worlwide
>
>
> >Well, if it costs $1,000 to take the lab again, which involves hours and
> >hours of studying, and you go to a client and say, I'm CCIE  and I 
>let
> >my certifications lapse, but here's what I've been doing for the past X
> >number of years
> >
> > Do you really need those 4 letters anymore with most companies with that
> >level of experience? I mean, if it is out of date, it hasn't really been
> >long enough to be REALLY out of date...
> >
> >*plink plink*
> >
> >-Chris
> >
> >
> >"andy lennon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
>8p93pj$1ii$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8p93pj$1ii$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> Bollocks.
> >> By definition a CCIE is the best when it comes to real world 
>experience.
> >>
> >>
> >> "Robert Padjen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> > Might it also mean that people are finding that the
> >> > certification is not as important in this market and
> >> > that the 'lower' level certifications, along with
> >> > 'real' world experience, provide a greater benefit to
> >> > corporations and providers?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --- "Healis, Jim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > > This could be due to people not passing
> >> > > re-certification exams, failing to
> >> > > schedule the re-cert exam in time, death, or even
> >> > > worse Breaking Cisco's
> >> > > NDA!!
> >> > >
> >> > > Jim Healis, CCDP, CCNP
> >> > > Senior Network Administrator
> >> > > Virata
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >  -Original Message-
> >> > > From: Daniel Ji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> > > Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 1:47 PM
> >> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> > > Subject: Re: Decreasing # of CCIE's Worlwide
> >> > >
> >> > > I guess that's good news for all of us who are
> >> > > trying damn hard to be a
> >> > > CCIE. After all, the less # worldwide, the more
> >> > > value this cert will have.
> >> > > it's all just simple "supply vs demand".
> >> > >
> >> > > Good luck to all!
> >> > >
> >> > > Daniel
> >> > > Lab in Dec
> >> > >
> >> > > ""andy lennon"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >> > > 8p8ssl$rmi$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8p8ssl$rmi$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> > > > First time i've seen the number of CCIE's go
> >> > > down...
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
>http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/ccie_program/ccie_present.html
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Andy Lennon
> >> > > >
> >> > > > ccnp/dp/mcse
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
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Re: Academy CCNA2 structure

2000-09-08 Thread David Ristau

I took the network acad 1.0 track, did some studying on my own, i.e.
the 1900 switch documentation off the cisco web site.  passed the test
without 
a hitch, your mileage may vary.

Alf wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I'd appreciate anyones help / advice / comments concerning the new CCNA2
> Cisco Academy course structure and what is purported to be within the exam.
> I am an Academy student and about to take my exam. The curriculum doesn't go
> into CLI for the 1900 switch yet the exam is meant to cover and ask
> questions on this topic. Can anyone advise why this is?
> 
> Regards
> 
> Alf
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RE: Higher than CCIE...

2000-09-08 Thread jaime salazar


What are these sesame street Certs. Get real Certifications my 
friend.



>From: "Check your mail!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Chuck Larrieu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: Higher than CCIE...
>Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 05:21:58 -0500
>
>IF you only KNEW!!
>Rob Mears III, NNCSS, NNCDS, CCNA, MCSE+I, CNE4&5, A+
>Technical Mercenary
>
> >  -Original Message-
> > From:   John Hobbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent:   Monday, August 28, 2000 12:37 AM
> > To: Check your mail!; Chuck Larrieu; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject:RE: Higher than CCIE...
> >
> > Get a life!  Get your CCIE and then buy a dog and enjoy life - you sound
> > like a cert freak who is never satisified until you have every cert in 
>the
> > industry.
> >
> > Or go to work for Cisco - or just go to work period and use what certs 
>you
> > do have.
> >
> > jh
> >
> >  -Original Message-
> > From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent:   Saturday, August 26, 2000 11:46 AM
> > To: Chuck Larrieu; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject:RE: Higher than CCIE...
> >
> > Do you think Cisco is the only certification out their? Come on all,
> > look at the big picture and stop worshiping these CCIE types.
> >
> > Rob
> >
> >  -Original Message-
> > From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >
> > Sent:   Sunday, August 27, 2000 10:56 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject:RE: Higher than CCIE...
> >
> >
> > The title should be more like Elevated Cisco Internetworking
> > Deity,  ( El CID )
> >
> >
> > One Certification to rule them all
> > One Certification to find them
> > One Certification to bring them all
> > And in the Networks bind them
> > In the Land Of Cisco, where the Routers lie
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent:   Saturday, August 26, 2000 11:56 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject:Higher than CCIE...
> >
> > Hey Group,
> > I was pondering this thought. If the rate of
> > CCIE's is rising at a fast pace than I think it would be cool if Cisco
> > created a new cert. The way to obtain this one would be to pass all 
>three
> > CCIE tests. From what I know there is only one person in the world who 
>has
> > all three... I think his name is Brendan Ta or something. They could 
>name
> > the cert: CCID (Cisco certified internetwork director), or something 
>like
> > (and this is my favorite): CCIG (Cisco certified internetwork guru) :)
> > Don't think they would use that one though, :)  This type of cert would,
> > in my eyes, deem you as a true master of the matrix, if you know what I
> > mean...just a though. Maybe we can get some good responses on this
> > one...Have a good one group.
> >
> > P.S. I would like if Priscilla O. and Todd L. could
> > also comment on this topic...thanks.  :)
> >
> > Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA
> > E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > ~Internetwork Essentials~
> > "Complete Solutions for Complex Networks"
> >
><< winmail.dat >>

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Re: Win2k SNMP Traffic

2000-09-08 Thread Vern Stitt


Windows 2K does not enable SNMP by default.  Dell is doing that so that
their server monitoring software will get messages from the servers warning
you when a fan slows down, a power supply starts to regulate out of spec or
a RAID controller reports a container member problem.

Stopping and disabling SNMP in services will stop the snmp traffic but will
cause all the Dell monitoring applications to report problems initializing.

Also, this has nothing to do with network neighborhood browsing.  Putting
those systems in a different domain or workgroup will make them less
obvious. A different domain without a trust relationship will give some
security against access.

Vern Stitt
ASE, CCA, CCNA, MCSE

"Deepak Sharma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
Ok here's the scenario.

Multiple branch offices,( LAN, WAN> slowest 56k and  fastest oc3) and
cisco routers from 1900's to 3600's )

PDC, and a whole lota BDC's.  NT 4.0 PDC and BDCs; still wanna see the
those computers when I go into network neighbor hood.
BT.Dell is now shipping all there new Pc's with win2k
professional, and refuse to go back to win9x for me. ((
ba*tards))this causes me to have alota headache, cause win2k has
SNMP traffic enabled by Default when we get them...and now  I can start
to see all the new win2k machines in network neighbor hood.  This is a
problem due to security reasons and management and blah blah blah...and
there's NO possible way I can go, or tell the techy there to go to
disable SNMP traffic on all the new comps!!!I was thinking about
goin to all the branch offices and config. the routers to block snmp
traffic ( port 161 off the top of my head ),

So is there any way i can block SNMP traffic on win2k professional from
the routers..cause i still wanna see the pdc and bdc's.but this
is not too important...I just REALLY need to stop those win2k machines
from appearing on network neighborhood

" access-list 100 deny  snmp win2kpro"   hahah


thanks

Deepak Sharma
MSCE  CCNA  ACT  A+
Ceridian Canada Ltd.
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RE: 802.1Q or ISL


But I think it's more like:

A: Pull a big trash bag over their head
B: Stuff a lunch bad in their shirt pocket

and then after either case, weigh them (CRC).

Again, you might want to consider how often you will do each thing. You may 
only need to pull bags over the heads of 250 people going out the front 
door, and ignore the other 750 people who are going into different rooms of 
the house - as opposed to stuffing lunch bags in the pockets of all 1000 
regardless of where they are going...

Dale
[=`)


>From: Ole Drews Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Ole Drews Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "'Howard C. Berkowitz'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: 802.1Q or ISL
>Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 10:05:41 -0500
>
>I hate martini Howard.
>
>Anyway, I believe I mean the latency in the switch.
>
>It's kind of, what would be the fastest thing to do:
>
>A) Put a large overcoat on and button 30 buttons.
>
>   or
>
>B) Take your coat off, put a vest on with 4 buttons, and put the coat back
>on - (no buttons on the coat).
>
>Now consider a line of 1000 guests waiting for you to do A or B on them.
>What method would be the fastest to get these people out the door so you
>could go to bed?
>
>Have a great weekend,
>
>Ole
>
>~~
>  Ole Drews Jensen
>  Systems Network Manager
>  CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
>  RWR Enterprises, Inc.
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>~~
>
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Howard C. Berkowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 9:34 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: 802.1Q or ISL
>
>
> >Thanks for your reply Tom,
> >
> >However, according to the book I'm reading, the 802.1Q DOES change the
>frame
> >size by adding 4 bytes into it.
> >
> >Take care,
> >
> >Ole
>
>  From the horse's mouth, 802.1Q:
>
>
>9.1 Overview
>Tagging a frame requires:
>a) The addition of a Tag Header to the frame. This header is inserted
>immediately following the Desti-nation
>MAC address and Source MAC address (and Routing, if present) fields
>of the frame to be
>transmitted;
>
>
>To return to your original question, Ole, when you speak of
>optimizing resource use, what do you consider the scarce resource?
>Other than in the martini-soaked brain (if I may use the term) of an
>overly zealous salesdroid, you can't optimize for everything at once.
>Save me from "specialists in all cars, foreign and domestic."
>
>Some optimizations could include:
>
> Bandwidth overhead
>   Frame length
>   Overhead frames (BPDU, for example)
> Latency in the switch
>   Input serialization
>   Processing
>   Internal forwarding
>   Output serialization
> Ease of use
> Interoperability
>
>Which do you want to optimize?
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Tom Walstrom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 6:30 AM
> >To: Ole Drews Jensen; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: RE: 802.1Q or ISL
> >
> >
> >Ole,
> >
> >ISL encapsulates the frame adding, as you said, a 26 byte header and a 4
> >byte CRC trailer.  802.1Q frame-tagging does not change the frame size
> >(hence its interoperability, because it appears as a standard ethernet
>frame
> >to non-802.1Q devices), but does modify the existing frame with VLAN
> >identification information.
> >
> >I would suspect that the real reason to deploy ISL is that it runs one
> >spanning tree per vlan where 802.1Q runs only one spanning tree.  Also 
>ISL
> >allows bonding into etherchannels.  Seems like this would be more likely 
>to
> >make a difference on the network.  I would think you would only do 802.1Q
> >where interoperability was the issue, like with a Catalyst 4000 which I
> >believe only supports 802.1Q.  Maybe some switch guru could further
> >illuminate this issue.
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Tom
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Ole Drews Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 1:38 PM
> >
> >Just a thought. - Digging through another book towards the light at the 
>end
> >of the tunnel, I have now added VLAN Trunc Links to my knowledge. That 
>has
> >brought this question up in my mind, so I would like to hear some 
>feedback
> >on this subject.
> >
> >I know that much of this depends on the average frame sizes, so lets say
> >that I have analyzed my network, and the average frame size is 800. Lets
> >also say that we are only dealing with Cisco Catalyst switches in this
> >scenario.
> >
> >The question is, what would be least resource-waste to use as a trunking
> >link : ISL or 802.1Q???
> >
> >The 802.1Q has to break the frame open to modify it, but it adds only 4
> >bytes to each frame.
> >
> >The ISL does not have to break the frame open because it simply
>encapsulates
> >it into a new one, but it adds 30 bytes to each frame.
> >
> >Any comments on this?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Ole
>
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LMI's missed - PVC deleted or inactivated?

2000-09-08 Thread Carter, Mark





This question could probably best be 
answered by someone working for a service provider.
(I currently work on the 
enterprise)
 
When three or more lmi requests sent from the router to the central 
office switch are 
missed the c.o. switch will either delete or 
inactivate the pvc.
 
Can someone explain to me the difference between a deleted pvc and an 
inactived
one? What is happening on the telco 
side.
 
Also, a url link to Cisco's documentation on this one would be helpful. 
(I tried a
search but can't seem to pinpoint the 
area)

Re: Drive, Motivation and Determination !!!!!!!!


Daniel - since you just started your own consulting firm, become a Cisco 
reseller. Once you get a few entry level certs (CCNA, CCDA, Sales Expert), 
you will find that Cisco will be very accomodating in terms of resources and 
practice labs, etc. They offer a lot of stuff to their partners to help them 
get certified. Right now they have a promotion where partners can take 
certification classes at $500 instead of the usual $1200 - $1800... There is 
even a special 2 for 1 deal (2 classes for $500).

Cisco has a program called ASET (Advanced System Engineer Training) which 
you can take in San Jose. It looks and feels just like the actual lab exam, 
except that there is a CCIE there to help you, and you can talk amongst the 
others there to find solutiuons to the problems you encounter...

Become a Cisco partner - it is worth the effort...

Dale
[=`)


>From: "Daniel Boutet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Daniel Boutet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Drive, Motivation and Determination 
>Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 07:50:06 -0600
>
>I totally agree with you Terrence. I do not have the opportunity to work
>with Cisco Products except AccessPro cards (2).
>I also just started my own consulting firm, so it is not easy to be able to
>buy the right equipment to paractice on. (NO $ available right now)
>
>I have other certs CNE (3,4,5), MCSE, A+ where I get to practice my skills
>everyday.
>I also have CCA but do not get to work on Citrix anymore. Not a lot of 
>firms
>know about this product Citrix doesn't even have a demo version for labs.
>All they provide is a virtual demo room in FLA.
>
>There is also a time factor. I dedicate my time to working and trying to
>build a customer base. The time that I can spend in my lab is minimal.
>When you decide to study certification like Cisco it would be nice that
>Cisco would let us use their lab. After all we are supporting their
>products.
>Wouldn't it make sense for them to want certified people that at least saw
>their products (inside and out) and have minimal hands on?
>
>When I first started this certification I phone my local Cisco office and
>asked them if they had a lab I could use. I was turned away as if I was
>crazy.
>How is a person suppose to get real hands on in Edmonton Alberta? After I
>get more knowledge (books) I will try to give my time freely to get 
>some
>experience.
>
>Just my two cents.
>
>
>
>
>""Terrence Garrison"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > lets face it. Any Certification that has no lab
> > can be obtained by an average person with ENOUGH
> > study. The CCIE can be passed if one has access to
> > the right equipment. There is NEVER a need to take
> > a class or have real experience. . .unless of course
> > you actually want to be good at your job. Having said
> > that, merely obtaining a cert like the CCNP or MCSE or
> > CCNA is of some value depending on the depth of the
> > job one needs to perform and the ability of an individual
> > to translate theory into practice. Some people can do
> > this better than others, but it depends on the individual
> > and have much drive, motivation and determination one
> > has. In the end, it is drive, motivation and determination
> > that makes anyone good at whatever it is they do. . .Cert
> > or not, degree or not, smart or average.
> >
> >
> > >From: "Rishard Chapoteau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: "Rishard Chapoteau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: Re: Anyone achieve their CCIE through self study not from 
>work!
> > >Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 16:02:35 -0400
> > >
> > >So your telling us you got your CCNP with no experience at all?  I
> > >seriously
> > >hope not.
> > >
> > >Rishard
> > >
> > >
> > >""Wind"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >8p444d$q14$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8p444d$q14$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > Hiya;
> > > >
> > > > Now I finished my CCNP.   I should go for the CCIE,
> > >otherwise
> > >my
> > > > ccnp status is just a paperwork.
> > > > I just wondering does CCIE can be earned through self study, not 
>from
> > > > working with system integrator?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Vincent
> > > >
> > > >
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RE: 802.1Q or ISL


C ) Offer them a Martini on there way out :)


flem
--- Ole Drews Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I hate martini Howard.
> 
> Anyway, I believe I mean the latency in the switch.
> 
> It's kind of, what would be the fastest thing to do:
> 
> A) Put a large overcoat on and button 30 buttons.
> 
>   or
> 
> B) Take your coat off, put a vest on with 4 buttons,
> and put the coat back
> on - (no buttons on the coat).
> 
> Now consider a line of 1000 guests waiting for you
> to do A or B on them.
> What method would be the fastest to get these people
> out the door so you
> could go to bed?
> 
> Have a great weekend,
> 
> Ole
> 
> ~~
>  Ole Drews Jensen
>  Systems Network Manager
>  CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
>  RWR Enterprises, Inc.
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ~~
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Howard C. Berkowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 9:34 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: 802.1Q or ISL
> 
> 
> >Thanks for your reply Tom,
> >
> >However, according to the book I'm reading, the
> 802.1Q DOES change the
> frame
> >size by adding 4 bytes into it.
> >
> >Take care,
> >
> >Ole
> 
>  From the horse's mouth, 802.1Q:
> 
> 
> 9.1 Overview
> Tagging a frame requires:
> a) The addition of a Tag Header to the frame. This
> header is inserted 
> immediately following the Desti-nation
> MAC address and Source MAC address (and Routing, if
> present) fields 
> of the frame to be
> transmitted;
> 
> 
> To return to your original question, Ole, when you
> speak of 
> optimizing resource use, what do you consider the
> scarce resource? 
> Other than in the martini-soaked brain (if I may use
> the term) of an 
> overly zealous salesdroid, you can't optimize for
> everything at once. 
> Save me from "specialists in all cars, foreign and
> domestic."
> 
> Some optimizations could include:
> 
> Bandwidth overhead
>   Frame length
>   Overhead frames (BPDU, for example)
> Latency in the switch
>   Input serialization
>   Processing
>   Internal forwarding
>   Output serialization
> Ease of use
> Interoperability
> 
> Which do you want to optimize?
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Tom Walstrom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 6:30 AM
> >To: Ole Drews Jensen; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: RE: 802.1Q or ISL
> >
> >
> >Ole,
> >
> >ISL encapsulates the frame adding, as you said, a
> 26 byte header and a 4
> >byte CRC trailer.  802.1Q frame-tagging does not
> change the frame size
> >(hence its interoperability, because it appears as
> a standard ethernet
> frame
> >to non-802.1Q devices), but does modify the
> existing frame with VLAN
> >identification information.
> >
> >I would suspect that the real reason to deploy ISL
> is that it runs one
> >spanning tree per vlan where 802.1Q runs only one
> spanning tree.  Also ISL
> >allows bonding into etherchannels.  Seems like this
> would be more likely to
> >make a difference on the network.  I would think
> you would only do 802.1Q
> >where interoperability was the issue, like with a
> Catalyst 4000 which I
> >believe only supports 802.1Q.  Maybe some switch
> guru could further
> >illuminate this issue.
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Tom
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Ole Drews Jensen
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 1:38 PM
> >
> >Just a thought. - Digging through another book
> towards the light at the end
> >of the tunnel, I have now added VLAN Trunc Links to
> my knowledge. That has
> >brought this question up in my mind, so I would
> like to hear some feedback
> >on this subject.
> >
> >I know that much of this depends on the average
> frame sizes, so lets say
> >that I have analyzed my network, and the average
> frame size is 800. Lets
> >also say that we are only dealing with Cisco
> Catalyst switches in this
> >scenario.
> >
> >The question is, what would be least resource-waste
> to use as a trunking
> >link : ISL or 802.1Q???
> >
> >The 802.1Q has to break the frame open to modify
> it, but it adds only 4
> >bytes to each frame.
> >
> >The ISL does not have to break the frame open
> because it simply
> encapsulates
> >it into a new one, but it adds 30 bytes to each
> frame.
> >
> >Any comments on this?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Ole
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RE: Retiring my number (was: Decreasing # of CCIE's Worldwide)

2000-09-08 Thread Montgomery, Robert WARCOM Contractor


I was at Cisco for an interview and the paraded me through the CiscoTown
Hall of Fame where the numbers are each framed, stuck on the way and lighted
by one single light.

-Original Message-
From: Dale Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 9:19 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Retiring my number (was: Decreasing # of CCIE's Worlwide)


PS - in reply to Chris Hagen - the recert process involves only a written 
exam, you don't have to take the lab again... It's true about the 
discounts... there is much motivation on the part of Cisco partners to keep 
CCIE's current and on staff.

What I wanna know is, when a CCIE retires, do they retire his number too 
(like with sports heroes)???


>From: "Miller, Nathan (AZ15)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Miller, Nathan (AZ15)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: Dick Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: Decreasing # of CCIE's Worlwide
>Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 07:29:48 -0700
>
>I have heard that Cisco significantly discounts the proice of support
>contracts to companies with current CCIEs.  If this is true it is one 
>reason
>why keeping the cert current increases marketability.
>Nathan Miller
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Dick Silva [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 6:21 PM
>To: Chris Hagen; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Decreasing # of CCIE's Worlwide
>
>
>/
>Another question is...Has an employer ever asked "is your CCIE current"?
>\
>-Original Message-
>From: Chris Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Thursday, September 07, 2000 7:12 PM
>Subject: Re: Decreasing # of CCIE's Worlwide
>
>
> >Well, if it costs $1,000 to take the lab again, which involves hours and
> >hours of studying, and you go to a client and say, I'm CCIE  and I 
>let
> >my certifications lapse, but here's what I've been doing for the past X
> >number of years
> >
> > Do you really need those 4 letters anymore with most companies with that
> >level of experience? I mean, if it is out of date, it hasn't really been
> >long enough to be REALLY out of date...
> >
> >*plink plink*
> >
> >-Chris
> >
> >
> >"andy lennon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
>8p93pj$1ii$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8p93pj$1ii$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> Bollocks.
> >> By definition a CCIE is the best when it comes to real world 
>experience.
> >>
> >>
> >> "Robert Padjen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> > Might it also mean that people are finding that the
> >> > certification is not as important in this market and
> >> > that the 'lower' level certifications, along with
> >> > 'real' world experience, provide a greater benefit to
> >> > corporations and providers?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --- "Healis, Jim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > > This could be due to people not passing
> >> > > re-certification exams, failing to
> >> > > schedule the re-cert exam in time, death, or even
> >> > > worse Breaking Cisco's
> >> > > NDA!!
> >> > >
> >> > > Jim Healis, CCDP, CCNP
> >> > > Senior Network Administrator
> >> > > Virata
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >  -Original Message-
> >> > > From: Daniel Ji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> > > Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 1:47 PM
> >> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> > > Subject: Re: Decreasing # of CCIE's Worlwide
> >> > >
> >> > > I guess that's good news for all of us who are
> >> > > trying damn hard to be a
> >> > > CCIE. After all, the less # worldwide, the more
> >> > > value this cert will have.
> >> > > it's all just simple "supply vs demand".
> >> > >
> >> > > Good luck to all!
> >> > >
> >> > > Daniel
> >> > > Lab in Dec
> >> > >
> >> > > ""andy lennon"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >> > > 8p8ssl$rmi$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8p8ssl$rmi$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> > > > First time i've seen the number of CCIE's go
> >> > > down...
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Learning ATM via Frame Relay

2000-09-08 Thread Cthulu, CCIE Candidate


Hi, all,

I attended a Cisco ATM class a few weeks at Global Knowledge (top notch
instructor, Mario Bigotti, ask for him by name).  I not only learned ATM,
and felt very comfortable..   I realized that my knowing frame relay,
especially configuing my big *ss AGS+ as a frame relay switch, really helped
me to understand the concepts, configuration of ATM!

Several years ago, I took a BISDN/ATM course:  I stunk.  ATM was mind
boggling, I could not follow the lecture at all;  the instructor gave me a
shiny ball to play with so that I would not distburb the class.   Not
coincdentally, at the time, I thought frame relay was something that
airplanes had.

Since then, I have mastered frame relay, and this ATM course was a snap!  In
a sense, you can learn ATM indirectly by mastering frame relay:  VPI/VCI are
just like DLCI,  PVC and SVC mean the same thing.  A frame relay switch
operates similar to an ATM switch.  My nickname for ATM is now "Kick *ss
Frame Relay."

This has been a unpaid public service announcement.  Flames to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


HTH,

Charles




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Re: Switch 2901 Password Recovery - Pls help !!



Go here...

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/474/index.shtml

Dale
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>Subject: Switch 2901 Password Recovery - Pls help !!
>Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 00:32:26 +0100
>
>Hi,
>
>I have lost my password for Cisco 2901 Switch.  Can someone please tell
>me how to do a password recovery for Cisco 2901 Swich?
>
>Thanks for your help !!!
>
>Rgds,
>Ash
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Re: cisco load director

2000-09-08 Thread Pushkar Shirolkar


hi,

i can ping the servers from the PIX , but not the virtual IP ... the servers
are not directly plugged in the LD .. there is a common switch for the LD
interface,the PIX internal interface and the servers  as they all are in the
sane network. one thing i want is that should i plug in one more interface
of the LD in the same network as right now i have only one interface into
this network.

regds
Pushkar

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> I didn't notice anything obviously wrong with your config.  This may sound
> obvious, but the LD uses a regular old NIC.  If your servers are plugged
> directly into the LD, you must use a crossover cable.  For troubleshooting
> only, allow any port to pass through the local director.  Then lock it
down
> to 80/443 after everything is working.  Try ping your servers from the LD,
> and try to ping the LD from the PIX DMZ interface.  Do a 'show real' and
> 'show virtual' to get some better info than the config.
>
> Let me know how you do from here.
>
> Jeff
>
> ""Pushkar Shirolkar"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> 8p97ca$mco$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8p97ca$mco$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > hi friends,
> > i have a strange prob. i have a cisco load director 416 ... and have a
> very
> > simple config. i have a firewall whose one interface is to the internet
> and
> > one to the internal n/w ... as usual .. nothing diff.  . and inside
on
> > the n/w i have one load director and 2 web servers which i want to load
> > balance ...
> >
> > i have natted the virtual IP in the firewall to a public IP .. and
opened
> > port 80 for incoming hits  now this virtual IP is bound to the 2 web
> > servers ...
> >
> > but the prob is that i donot get any inbound connections from outside ..
> > also when i tried to telnet to port 80 of the virtual IP from inside
also
> ..
> > i'm unable to do so ...
> >
> > also i have connected only one ethernet cable from the first ethernet
> > interface on the LAN .. do i have to connect another cable from the
second
> > interface even though they are in the same n/w ??
> >
> > please can anyone help out ... this is ans SOS situation ..
> > the config file is below .. please take a look ...
> >
> > Pushkar
> > ---
> > : Saved
> > : LocalDirector 416 Version 3.1.4
> > syslog output 20.3
> > no syslog console
> > enable password 4d9b64f9ab66474af34252545443b8 encrypted
> > hostname web_ld
> > no shutdown ethernet 0
> > no shutdown ethernet 1
> > shutdown ethernet 2
> > interface ethernet 0 auto
> > interface ethernet 1 auto
> > interface ethernet 2 auto
> > mtu 0 1500
> > mtu 1 1500
> > mtu 2 1500
> > multiring all
> > no secure  0
> > no secure  1
> > no secure  2
> > no ping-allow 0
> > no ping-allow 1
> > no ping-allow 2
> > ip address 172.16.0.254 255.255.255.0
> > no rip passive
> > rip version 1
> > failover ip address 0.0.0.0
> > no failover
> > password cisco
> > snmp-server enable traps
> > no snmp-server contact
> > no snmp-server location
> > virtual 172.16.0.253:80:0:tcp is
> > virtual 172.16.0.253:443:0:tcp is
> > real 172.16.0.4:80:0:tcp is
> > real 172.16.0.10:80:0:tcp is
> > name 172.16.0.4 web1
> > name 172.16.0.10 web2
> > name 172.16.0.253 domain
> > bind 172.16.0.253:80:0:tcp 172.16.0.4:80:0:tcp
> > bind 172.16.0.253:80:0:tcp 172.16.0.10:80:0:tcp
> > : end
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Re: FW: HSRP problem


HSRP will use a default group number if you don't
configure one .

Everything points to the switches , get the routers on
the same physical media and I will be very surprised
if your config would not work .


flem
--- David Toalson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> I have two 7505 running HSRP and actually have two
> standby groups in the
> config - one for use and the second for failover. 
> We have even had it
> failover once or twice in the 3 years I have worked
> with it.  Our Cicso
> SE was instrumental in getting it set up and
> working.  I hope this
> helps.
> 
> Router 1 - main router
> 
> interface Ethernet1/0/0
>  ip address 10.10.10.252 255.255.255.0
>  ip helper-address 10.10.11.1
>  no ip redirects
>  delay 2000
>  standby 1 priority 100
>  standby 1 preempt
>  standby 1 authentication bcbs
>  standby 1 ip 10.10.10.251
>  standby 2 priority 90
>  standby 2 preempt
>  standby 2 authentication bcbs
>  standby 2 ip 10.10.10.254
> 
> Router 2 - failover
> 
> interface Ethernet1/0/0
>  ip address 10.10.10.250 255.255.255.0
>  ip helper-address 10.10.11.1
>  no ip redirects
>  bandwidth 1
>  delay 2000
>  standby 1 priority 90
>  standby 1 preempt
>  standby 1 authentication bcbs
>  standby 1 ip 10.10.10.251
>  standby 2 priority 100
>  standby 2 preempt
>  standby 2 authentication bcbs
>  standby 2 ip 10.10.10.254
> 
> > --
> > From:   Paul
> Montgomery[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Reply To:   Paul Montgomery
> > Sent:   Friday, September 08, 2000 9:54 AM
> > To: 'Bill O'Brien'
> > Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Subject:RE: HSRP problem
> > 
> > 
> > Bill,
> > 
> > Thanks for your response. I actually had a group
> number in an earlier
> > config. I took it out after looking at a sample
> config on the cisco
> > web site
> > (http://cisco.com/warp/public/619/1.html)
> > 
> > Either way it didn't work.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Paul.
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Bill O'Brien [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 03:43
> > To: Paul Montgomery
> > Subject: Re: HSRP problem
> > 
> > 
> > Paul,
> > 
> > I think you need a number after standby to
> associate a
> > group so both router know there in the same group
> > 
> > e0
> > 
> > standby 1 ip 10.10.10.1
> > standby 1 preempt
> > standby 1 priority 100
> > 
> > 
> > e0
> > 
> > standby 1 ip 10.10.10.1
> > standby 1 preempt 
> > standby 1 priority 200
> > 
> > Bill
> > 
> > 
> > --- Paul Montgomery
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Dear Group,
> > > 
> > > I am experiencing difficulty with implementing
> HSRP
> > > on a couple of 3640s. I
> > > have set this up using configurations that have
> been
> > > working previously.
> > > Both routers are connected to Nortel 10/100
> > > autosensing switches (separate
> > > but in the same stack). I have no VLANs or
> > > segmentation set up on the
> > > switches. I have set up debugging on the standby
> on
> > > both routers. What I see
> > > is only the outgoing hello packets. I do not see
> the
> > > incoming hello packets,
> > > consequently both routers think the other is
> down
> > > and therefore takes up
> > > the active router role. I have tried to do a
> > > multicast ping to 224.0.0.2
> > > which I believe is the multicast group address
> that
> > > HSRP uses without
> > > success.
> > > 
> > > I have attached the relevent bits of config
> below.
> > > 
> > > If anyone could shed any light on this curious
> > > problem I would be most
> > > grateful.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Standby router
> > > 
> > > standby-router>#sh standby
> > > Ethernet0/0 - Group 0
> > >   Local state is Active, priority 100, may
> preempt,
> > > use bia
> > >   Hellotime 3 holdtime 10
> > >   Next hello sent in 00:00:02.556
> > >   Hot standby IP address is 10.10.2.200
> configured
> > >   Active router is local
> > >   Standby router is unknown expired
> > >   Standby virtual mac address is 0010.7b44.cf41
> > > 
> > > interface Ethernet0/0
> > >  ip address 10.10.2.209 255.0.0.0
> > >  no ip redirects
> > >  ip directed-broadcast
> > >  standby use-bia
> > >  standby priority 100
> > >  standby preempt
> > >  standby ip 10.10.2.200
> > > 
> > > Primary-router>#sh standby
> > > Ethernet0/0 - Group 0
> > >   Local state is Active, priority 200, may
> preempt,
> > > use bia
> > >   Hellotime 3 holdtime 10
> > >   Next hello sent in 00:00:01.338
> > >   Hot standby IP address is 10.10.2.200
> configured
> > >   Active router is local
> > >   Standby router is unknown expired
> > >   Standby virtual mac address is 0030.947e.d480
> > > 
> > > interface Ethernet0/0
> > >  description *** Local Area Network Segment ***
> > >  ip address 172.31.72.200 255.255.255.0
> secondary
> > >  ip address 10.10.2.207 255.0.0.0
> > >  no ip redirects
> > >  ip directed-broadcast
> > >  standby use-bia
> > >  standby priority 200 preempt
> > >  standby ip 45.10.2.200
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Paul Montgomery
> > > Technical Project Manager
> > > CNE, MCP, CCNA, CCD

RE: LMI's missed - PVC deleted or inactivated?

2000-09-08 Thread Leigh Anne Chisholm


VC status set to inactive indicates the connection between the local router and frame 
relay switch is working, but there is no connection between the remote router and the 
frame relay switch.

A deleted VC occurs when the local router is unable to establish frame relay service 
with the frame relay switch.

Inactive - local works, remote doesn't.
Deleted - local doesn't - no opportunity to find out about the remote.

  -- Leigh Anne

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To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: LMI's missed - PVC deleted or inactivated?


This question could probably best be answered by someone working for a service 
provider.
(I currently work on the enterprise)

When three or more lmi requests sent from the router to the central office switch are 
missed the c.o. switch will either delete or inactivate the pvc.

Can someone explain to me the difference between a deleted pvc and an inactived
one? What is happening on the telco side.

Also, a url link to Cisco's documentation on this one would be helpful. (I tried a
search but can't seem to pinpoint the area)

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MAC Address support for c1900 series


I was looking at the specs and it says that it supports 1024 MAC address. My
understanding is that it is what the CAM table will support at one time.
But the specs also states:

"Unlimited MAC addresses support on configurable network port"

This, I don't get. Can anyone explain?

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Re: IP Telephony book!




Follow the link, after answering the questionnaire, for cco guest instead of
login in. You can always apply for a CCO membeship account as a reseller!



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> How can I get one if I don't have a customer code?
>
> On Thu, 7 Sep 2000 14:35:11 -0600 "Daniel Boutet"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I had quite a few replies sent to my personal address. Please if you
> > have
> > any questions reply to the group.
> > Someone else in the group might be interested.
> >
> > As far as the Free IP Telephony book:  by doing a search in the
> > archives I
> > came up with:
> >
> >
> >
> http://www.cisco.com/pcgi-bin/lm/buffer/offer/govgameplan/1371_gov_jump/V
> 458
> > -100S1
> >
> > I think that the last person to post this link was Ed Farmer. So
> > Thank you
> > Ed!
> >
> >
> >
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> > > Now I can say that some things are free. I just received my FREE
> > IP
> > > Telephony book.by Gorolski & Kolon.
> > > Anyone read it yet? Care to comment.?
> > >
> > > Thanks to the GROUP for the link and to Cisco for the book!
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Using BGP: technical questions needing clarification

2000-09-08 Thread Deloso, Elmer G.

Title: Using BGP: technical questions needing clarification

Hi, all.
I've done quite a bit of reading on BGP Routing and still have some gray areas.
1. Loopback address - if this isn't assigned to a Physical interface, how exactly does this
"eliminate dependency that would otherwise occur when you use the IP address of a
physical interface to configure BGP" when the Physical connection itself between BGP peers
go down? What scenario would give you a practical use out of loopback address?

2. Using a Route Map to set the Weight attribute - what are the range of values you can use?

3. BGP Route Map filtering - consider this configuration:
!Router C
router bgp 300
network 170.10.0.0
neighbor 3.3.3.3 remote-as 200
neighbor 3.3.3.3 route-map STAMP in
route-map STAMP permit 10
match as-path 1 set weight 20
!
route-map STAMP permit 20
match as-path 2
!
route-map STAMP permit 30
set weight 10
!
ip as-path access-list 1 permit ^200$
ip as-path access-list 2 deny _400_
Since only ^200$ is specifically permitted, this still results in all other AS's being denied, right?
So isn't the last entry unnecessary in this config?
3. Load Balancing over Parallel Serial Lines - consider this config:
!Router A
interface loopback 0
ip address 150.10.1.1 255.255.255.0
!
router bgp 100
neighbor 160.10.1.1 remote-as 200
neighbor 160.10.1.1 ebgp-multihop
neighbor 160.10.1.1 update-source loopback 0
network 150.10.0.0
!
ip route 160.10.0.0 255.255.0.0 1.1.1.2
ip route 160.10.0.0 255.255.0.0 2.2.2.2
Is it safe to say that all this does is allow the Router to UTILIZE the 2 serial lines?
Isn't it true that it can't determine how much of each line's bandwidth to use at any given time?
If so, all this does then is perform some kind of "Round-robin" utilizaton of the 2 parallel lines?
As always I'm indebted to all the kind replies. Some time next week I'll stage this BGP configuration
prior to implementing it in the field.

Respectfully,
Elmer Deloso
(757)887-4603

RE:Drive, Determination... and financial resources!!!

2000-09-08 Thread Louie Belt


I don't beleive that Cisco ever intended to make the CCIE cert easy to get
in any respect.  It takes extreme commitment and dedication to obtain this
elite cert - both in terms of time and financial resources. IMHO it's as it
should be.  Prior to becoming a CCIE, being a top level engineer creates a
demand for your services and therefore affords you the opportunities for
substantial increases in pay.  If you are merely average in your field,
these opportunities are not as readily available.  So if you are truly one
of the best in your field, you should then have the resources to create your
own lab and pursue the CCIE.  It is another method of weeding out those that
should not be wasting their time (or Cisco's) pursuing a cert they cannot
obtain.  While there are obviously exceptions to this (depending on
financial status and ability) it is a limiting factor that should be left in
place.

I have met over 20 people who "claimed" to be pursuing their CCIE. Most of
these did not have access to a decent lab and that was their excuse for not
succeeding.  I have offered to let these people use my lab, free of charge
to help them in their pursuit.  Only one of these people has ever logged on
to my lab more than once, and none are currently CCIE's.  This shows me that
the lack of a lab was the excuse, the real reason for failing, was a lack of
dedication.  I have also met 4 people who were pursuing their CCIE's and
built there own labs.  All 4 are now CCIE's.  As for my situation, I take
the lab Oct. 30th.

The CCIE cert is not for everyone.  It was never intended to be a
mass-market cert.  It requires extreme dedication and committment to
obtain - and part of that commitment is financial.  Most CCIE's will tell
you the best way to prepare for the CCIE Lab is to have your own home lab so
that you can work on scenarios in a non-production environment ad infinitum.
Constant contact with the product in every conceivable situation is the best
way to prepare for the exam - and coincidentally the best way to prepare for
the real world.  By the time you pass the lab, you been there, done that and
bought the T-shirt - and all will tell you it was a good investment.


LAB


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RE: LMI's missed - PVC deleted or inactivated?

2000-09-08 Thread Roger Dellaca


true - and I have generally had inactive VC's when I am going thru an NNI.  When both 
ends are with the same phone co, they usually get it right, but when you go thru an 
NNI you tend to have more problems getting both companies to get to the same meeting 
switch & same DLCI at the same time.  You end up with LMI's on both ends going to 
their local switches, but the PVC showing inactive on both ends.

>>> "Leigh Anne Chisholm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 09/08 10:03 AM >>>
VC status set to inactive indicates the connection between the local router and frame 
relay switch is working, but there is no connection between the remote router and the 
frame relay switch.

A deleted VC occurs when the local router is unable to establish frame relay service 
with the frame relay switch.

Inactive - local works, remote doesn't.
Deleted - local doesn't - no opportunity to find out about the remote.

  -- Leigh Anne

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Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 10:31 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' 
Subject: LMI's missed - PVC deleted or inactivated?


This question could probably best be answered by someone working for a service 
provider.
(I currently work on the enterprise)

When three or more lmi requests sent from the router to the central office switch are 
missed the c.o. switch will either delete or inactivate the pvc.

Can someone explain to me the difference between a deleted pvc and an inactived
one? What is happening on the telco side.

Also, a url link to Cisco's documentation on this one would be helpful. (I tried a
search but can't seem to pinpoint the area)

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Removing WS-X5010 cards from CAT5k

2000-09-08 Thread STRAND Scott


I need to remove some WS-X5010 24 port cards from a Cat5k slots 4 and 5. My question 
is what happens to the Vlans defined for the
ports on those cards. Should I clear the vlan ports before I remove the cards? The 
same vlans have ports defined on other cards
(slots 2&3) that I am not removing.

Thanks,
Scott

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*Philadelphia , PA Lab Study Partner**

2000-09-08 Thread J K


On My 3rd Attempt :



CCIE candidate looking for ccnp,ccie equivalent lab partner . In the 
Tri-State Area ..



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RE: FTP Throughput slowing down

2000-09-08 Thread peter . paul




Actually, the one FTP server is within a "private" network. We have two
companies that are connected via AT&T managed network.

We're not doing any load control, nor is the other company, but I don't know
what AT&T may be doing within the FR part... or their routers.




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what was the ftp site that you were attempting to go to.. if many were they
in the same geographic location i.e. Seattle Washington.. do any of the
paths correspond to the others. I'm coming of a .mil site and am
experiencing the same problem

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>
>
>
> Can anyone explain why, when I do an FTP from one location over a Frame
> Relay
> link to another, it starts out with a good throughput, but after a few
> minutes,
> drops significantly, and the total bandwidth is not being exceeded. There
> are a
> few routers in-between that I have no control over.
>
> Thanks
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RE: Drive, Determination... and financial resources!!!

2000-09-08 Thread Croyle, James


What a great post!  :-)  No, I'm not sucking up.  I have 2 2500 series
routers, a 2600 router, a 3724 and 4003 switch at my disposal now.  I know
this is not quite enough to practice every scenario that is needed for the
lab.  The best thing is, I am learning what I don't know, and for now, that
is good enough.  I for one am not rushing the CCIE, although I study every
week for at least 25 hours and have about 15 hours lab time.  Louie, what is
the requirement for one to log into your lab?  Not begging, just asking.
Good luck on your Oct 30th date!!!

Jim Croyle

-Original Message-
From: Louie Belt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 1:15 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE:Drive, Determination... and financial resources!!!


I don't beleive that Cisco ever intended to make the CCIE cert easy to get
in any respect.  It takes extreme commitment and dedication to obtain this
elite cert - both in terms of time and financial resources. IMHO it's as it
should be.  Prior to becoming a CCIE, being a top level engineer creates a
demand for your services and therefore affords you the opportunities for
substantial increases in pay.  If you are merely average in your field,
these opportunities are not as readily available.  So if you are truly one
of the best in your field, you should then have the resources to create your
own lab and pursue the CCIE.  It is another method of weeding out those that
should not be wasting their time (or Cisco's) pursuing a cert they cannot
obtain.  While there are obviously exceptions to this (depending on
financial status and ability) it is a limiting factor that should be left in
place.

I have met over 20 people who "claimed" to be pursuing their CCIE. Most of
these did not have access to a decent lab and that was their excuse for not
succeeding.  I have offered to let these people use my lab, free of charge
to help them in their pursuit.  Only one of these people has ever logged on
to my lab more than once, and none are currently CCIE's.  This shows me that
the lack of a lab was the excuse, the real reason for failing, was a lack of
dedication.  I have also met 4 people who were pursuing their CCIE's and
built there own labs.  All 4 are now CCIE's.  As for my situation, I take
the lab Oct. 30th.

The CCIE cert is not for everyone.  It was never intended to be a
mass-market cert.  It requires extreme dedication and committment to
obtain - and part of that commitment is financial.  Most CCIE's will tell
you the best way to prepare for the CCIE Lab is to have your own home lab so
that you can work on scenarios in a non-production environment ad infinitum.
Constant contact with the product in every conceivable situation is the best
way to prepare for the exam - and coincidentally the best way to prepare for
the real world.  By the time you pass the lab, you been there, done that and
bought the T-shirt - and all will tell you it was a good investment.


LAB


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Ip helper address

2000-09-08 Thread Dennis Bates


I am trying to put a statement on the remote router to allow the clients to
obtain an IP address accross the WAN.  I have used the ip helper-address
command successfully.  My problem is that i would like any of the DHCP
servers at the central site to be able to service DHCP requests from the
remote site.  Do I have to use mutilple ip helper-address statements ?  I
have tried  a helper address pointing to the subnet, but that does not seem
to work. EX. i have DHCP servers at 10.10.10.10 and 10.10.10.11 do i have to
use two seperate ip helper address statements or can i use ip helper-address
10.10.10.0 ?


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Re: Drive, Motivation and Determination !!!!!!!!


Dale,

I do have my CCNA and I also wrote the BCRAN exam and I am on the verge of
writing my Switching exam.
I also have my CCO account and did get the Sales Tool Central cd. I had also
ordered the Cisco product catalog prior to becoming a reseller.

I also want to reinforced the fact that I am in Edmonton, Alberta CANADA
(hey!) and that for me to take a hands-on
instructor led course (I then get lab access for 5 days) it cost $2600 or so
of canadian buckaroo.
(which converted in US $ is  about10 cases of Coors Lite ). Seeing the real
thing and doing virtual lab is
two different thing. I like to get down and dirty and practice till I know
what I am doing. This has always been my priority. I always was able to
afford
Lan Hardware and software. But Cisco stuff is another thing. I
know that there is tons of people in this situatiuon. They want to move from
network administrator to internetworking and the only means to learn are
BOOKS!

I do understand that I will be a paper CCNP (my goal for now) and I will not
be afraid to confirm my ignorance as far as hands-on. But I will understand
the concepts and have a good understanding of the different required
configurations. I have been reading almost all of the related emails in this
group for close to two months now. As you can see I am dedicating my time to
learning as best as I can with the resources that I have.

To be fair to Cisco's local office, I have to say that after the "cold
shower" they gave me the first time around, I haven't called them since.
I feel that I should know a little more in order to be able to pinpoint
better my hands-on needs. I will call them again soon. Hope that they are a
little more cooperative.




""Dale Holmes"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Daniel - since you just started your own consulting firm, become a Cisco
> reseller. Once you get a few entry level certs (CCNA, CCDA, Sales Expert),
> you will find that Cisco will be very accomodating in terms of resources
and
> practice labs, etc. They offer a lot of stuff to their partners to help
them
> get certified. Right now they have a promotion where partners can take
> certification classes at $500 instead of the usual $1200 - $1800... There
is
> even a special 2 for 1 deal (2 classes for $500).
>
> Cisco has a program called ASET (Advanced System Engineer Training) which
> you can take in San Jose. It looks and feels just like the actual lab
exam,
> except that there is a CCIE there to help you, and you can talk amongst
the
> others there to find solutiuons to the problems you encounter...
>
> Become a Cisco partner - it is worth the effort...
>
> Dale
> [=`)
>
>
> >From: "Daniel Boutet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: "Daniel Boutet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: Drive, Motivation and Determination 
> >Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 07:50:06 -0600
> >
> >I totally agree with you Terrence. I do not have the opportunity to work
> >with Cisco Products except AccessPro cards (2).
> >I also just started my own consulting firm, so it is not easy to be able
to
> >buy the right equipment to paractice on. (NO $ available right now)
> >
> >I have other certs CNE (3,4,5), MCSE, A+ where I get to practice my
skills
> >everyday.
> >I also have CCA but do not get to work on Citrix anymore. Not a lot of
> >firms
> >know about this product Citrix doesn't even have a demo version for labs.
> >All they provide is a virtual demo room in FLA.
> >
> >There is also a time factor. I dedicate my time to working and trying to
> >build a customer base. The time that I can spend in my lab is minimal.
> >When you decide to study certification like Cisco it would be nice that
> >Cisco would let us use their lab. After all we are supporting their
> >products.
> >Wouldn't it make sense for them to want certified people that at least
saw
> >their products (inside and out) and have minimal hands on?
> >
> >When I first started this certification I phone my local Cisco office and
> >asked them if they had a lab I could use. I was turned away as if I was
> >crazy.
> >How is a person suppose to get real hands on in Edmonton Alberta? After I
> >get more knowledge (books) I will try to give my time freely to get
> >some
> >experience.
> >
> >Just my two cents.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >""Terrence Garrison"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > lets face it. Any Certification that has no lab
> > > can be obtained by an average person with ENOUGH
> > > study. The CCIE can be passed if one has access to
> > > the right equipment. There is NEVER a need to take
> > > a class or have real experience. . .unless of course
> > > you actually want to be good at your job. Having said
> > > that, merely obtaining a cert like the CCNP or MCSE or
> > > CCNA is of some value depending on the depth of the
> > > job one needs to perform and the ability of an individual
>

Re: On Demand Routing (ODR) - Anyone using this routing protocol?

2000-09-08 Thread Karen . Young



Technically, its not a routing protocol, its an enhancement to CDP.

Here:s a whiute paper on designing networks using ODR that might help you
out.
http://www.ieng.com/warp/public/105/39.html

Karen E Young
Network Engineer
ELF Technologies, Inc
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Wondering if anyone is using ODR instead of RIP, IGRP, OSPF, EIGRP?  How
does it scale?  What's the overhead?

Thanks,

Timothy J. Hornbeck
Technical Analyst III - Team Lead
National City Bank

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RE: Retiring my number (was: Decreasing # of CCIE's Worldwide)

2000-09-08 Thread Sam Adams


Was Joe Montona's number in there? :)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Montgomery, Robert WARCOM Contractor
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 9:41 AM
To: Dale Holmes; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Retiring my number (was: Decreasing # of CCIE's Worldwide)


I was at Cisco for an interview and the paraded me through the CiscoTown
Hall of Fame where the numbers are each framed, stuck on the way and lighted
by one single light.

-Original Message-
From: Dale Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 9:19 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Retiring my number (was: Decreasing # of CCIE's Worlwide)


PS - in reply to Chris Hagen - the recert process involves only a written
exam, you don't have to take the lab again... It's true about the
discounts... there is much motivation on the part of Cisco partners to keep
CCIE's current and on staff.

What I wanna know is, when a CCIE retires, do they retire his number too
(like with sports heroes)???


>From: "Miller, Nathan (AZ15)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Miller, Nathan (AZ15)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: Dick Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: Decreasing # of CCIE's Worlwide
>Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 07:29:48 -0700
>
>I have heard that Cisco significantly discounts the proice of support
>contracts to companies with current CCIEs.  If this is true it is one
>reason
>why keeping the cert current increases marketability.
>Nathan Miller
>
>-Original Message-
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>Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 6:21 PM
>To: Chris Hagen; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Decreasing # of CCIE's Worlwide
>
>
>/
>Another question is...Has an employer ever asked "is your CCIE current"?
>\
>-Original Message-
>From: Chris Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Thursday, September 07, 2000 7:12 PM
>Subject: Re: Decreasing # of CCIE's Worlwide
>
>
> >Well, if it costs $1,000 to take the lab again, which involves hours and
> >hours of studying, and you go to a client and say, I'm CCIE  and I
>let
> >my certifications lapse, but here's what I've been doing for the past X
> >number of years
> >
> > Do you really need those 4 letters anymore with most companies with that
> >level of experience? I mean, if it is out of date, it hasn't really been
> >long enough to be REALLY out of date...
> >
> >*plink plink*
> >
> >-Chris
> >
> >
> >"andy lennon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>8p93pj$1ii$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8p93pj$1ii$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> Bollocks.
> >> By definition a CCIE is the best when it comes to real world
>experience.
> >>
> >>
> >> "Robert Padjen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> > Might it also mean that people are finding that the
> >> > certification is not as important in this market and
> >> > that the 'lower' level certifications, along with
> >> > 'real' world experience, provide a greater benefit to
> >> > corporations and providers?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --- "Healis, Jim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > > This could be due to people not passing
> >> > > re-certification exams, failing to
> >> > > schedule the re-cert exam in time, death, or even
> >> > > worse Breaking Cisco's
> >> > > NDA!!
> >> > >
> >> > > Jim Healis, CCDP, CCNP
> >> > > Senior Network Administrator
> >> > > Virata
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >  -Original Message-
> >> > > From: Daniel Ji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> > > Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 1:47 PM
> >> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> > > Subject: Re: Decreasing # of CCIE's Worlwide
> >> > >
> >> > > I guess that's good news for all of us who are
> >> > > trying damn hard to be a
> >> > > CCIE. After all, the less # worldwide, the more
> >> > > value this cert will have.
> >> > > it's all just simple "supply vs demand".
> >> > >
> >> > > Good luck to all!
> >> > >
> >> > > Daniel
> >> > > Lab in Dec
> >> > >
> >> > > ""andy lennon"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >> > > 8p8ssl$rmi$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8p8ssl$rmi$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> > > > First time i've seen the number of CCIE's go
> >> > > down...
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
>http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/ccie_program/ccie_present.html
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Andy Lennon
> >> > > >
> >> > > > ccnp/dp/mcse
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RE: FTP Throughput slowing down

2000-09-08 Thread Patterson Derek Contr 76CS/SCBL


what was the ftp site that you were attempting to go to.. if many were they
in the same geographic location i.e. Seattle Washington.. do any of the
paths correspond to the others. I'm coming of a .mil site and am
experiencing the same problem

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> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  FTP Throughput slowing down
> 
> 
> 
> Can anyone explain why, when I do an FTP from one location over a Frame
> Relay
> link to another, it starts out with a good throughput, but after a few
> minutes,
> drops significantly, and the total bandwidth is not being exceeded. There
> are a
> few routers in-between that I have no control over.
> 
> Thanks
> 
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Re: ATM deaming/line encoding problem

2000-09-08 Thread Karen . Young



Hans,

I haven't had the chance to work with ATM but according to the Link 0
Framer info you're getting LOF on the receive (loss of frame delineation).
Combine that with the number of uncorrectable errors on your receive and
I'd say that the problem isn't necessarily your router. You might want to
do a bit more checking on the BPX.

Karen E Young
Network Engineer
ELF Technologies, Inc
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"Hans Stout"   
 
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PM 
 
Please respond 
 
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Hello colleagues,

I have a problem with my ATM connection from my Cisco router to a Cisco BPX

ATM switch. When I look at the line on the switch, the line status is ok.
When I run the 'sh cont atm 1/0' command, I get the following output (maybe

anybody as an idea on where the error could be); I know this is going to be

a very long mail, but I can't help it:

zrh-atm#sh contr atm1/0
Interface ATM1/0 is down
  Hardware is ATM E1
LANE client MAC address is 0002.4b76.0dd0
  hwidb=0x81472004, ds=0x8148C564
  slot 1, unit 0, subunit 0
  rs8234 base 0x4080, slave base 0x4080
  rs8234 ds 0x8148C564
  SBDs - avail 2048, guaranteed 1, unguaranteed 2047, starved 0
Seg VCC table 4080B800, Shadow Seg VCC Table 814A8380, VCD Table
814BE3AC
Schedule table 40816800, Shadow Schedule table 814C43D8, Size 7CD
RSM VCC Table 4082BD00, Shadow RSM VCC Table 814C9414
VPI Index Table 40829280, VCI Index Table 4082B900
Bucket2 Table 40820480, Shadow Bucket2 Table 814C6338
MCR Limit Table 40820880, Shadow MCR Table 814C7F64
ABR template 40820A80, Shadow template 811FF798
RM Cell RS Queue 40829900
Queue   TXQ Addr  Pos  StQ Addr  Pos
0  UBR CHN0 40825A80  0028B4EA0  0
1  UBR CHN1 40825E80  0028B56A0  0
2  UBR CHN2 40826280  0028B5EA0  0
3  UBR CHN3 40826680  0028B66A0  0
4  VBR/ABR CHN0 40826A80  0028B6EA0  0
5  VBR/ABR CHN1 40826E80  0028B76A0  0
6  VBR/ABR CHN2 40827280  0028B7EA0  0
7  VBR/ABR CHN3 40827680  0028B86A0  0
8  VBR-RT CHN0  40827A80  0028B8EA0  0
9  VBR-RT CHN1  40827E80  0028B96A0  0
10 VBR-RT CHN2  40828280  0028B9EA0  0
11 VBR-RT CHN3  40828680  0028BA6A0  0
12 SIG  40828A80  0028BAEA0  0
13 VPD  40828E80  0028BB6A0  0

Queue   FBQ Addr  Pos  RSQ Addr  Pos
0  OAM  408EBD00  132  028BBF60  133
1  UBR CHN0 408ECD00  0028BCF60  0
2  UBR CHN1 408EDD00  0028BDF60  0
3  UBR CHN2 408EED00  0028BEF60  0
4  UBR CHN3 408EFD00  0028BFF60  0
5  VBR/ABR CHN0 408F0D00  8028C0F60  9
6  VBR/ABR CHN1 408F1D00  0028C1F60  0
7  VBR/ABR CHN2 408F2D00  0028C2F60  0
8  VBR/ABR CHN3 408F3D00  0028C3F60  0
9  VBR-RT CHN0  408F4D00  0028C4F60  0
10 VBR-RT CHN1  408F5D00  0028C5F60  0
11 VBR-RT CHN2  408F6D00  0028C6F60  0
12 VBR-RT CHN3  408F7D00  0028C7F60  0
13 SIG  408F8D00  0028C8F60  0
SAR Scheduling channels:  -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1
ATM channel number is 0
Link 0 IMA Info:
   group index is 99
   Tx link id is 0, Tx link state is notInGroup
   Rx link id is 99, Rx link state is notInGroup
Rx link failure status is noFailure,
0 tx failures, 1 rx failures
Link 0 Framer Info:
framing is Multiframe-CRC4, line code is HDB3, impedance is 120 ohm
clock src is line, payload-scrambling is enabled, no loopback
line status is 0x420; or Rx LOF, Tx LOMF.
port is active, link is unavailable
36213058 idle rx, 1917 correctable hec rx, 309882 uncorrectable hec
rx

RE: LMI's missed - PVC deleted or inactivated?

2000-09-08 Thread Carter, Mark

Title: RE: LMI's missed - PVC deleted or inactivated?






Thanks for your help.
I guess part of the confusion was: the difference between 
the LMI connection state and the pvc status - I guess the two are the same? 



-Original Message-
From: Roger Dellaca [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 10:34 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: LMI's missed - PVC deleted or inactivated?



true - and I have generally had inactive VC's when I am going thru an NNI.  When both ends are with the same phone co, they usually get it right, but when you go thru an NNI you tend to have more problems getting both companies to get to the same meeting switch & same DLCI at the same time.  You end up with LMI's on both ends going to their local switches, but the PVC showing inactive on both ends.

>>> "Leigh Anne Chisholm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 09/08 10:03 AM >>>
VC status set to inactive indicates the connection between the local router and frame relay switch is working, but there is no connection between the remote router and the frame relay switch.

A deleted VC occurs when the local router is unable to establish frame relay service with the frame relay switch.


Inactive - local works, remote doesn't.
Deleted - local doesn't - no opportunity to find out about the remote.


  -- Leigh Anne


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Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 10:31 AM
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Subject: LMI's missed - PVC deleted or inactivated?



This question could probably best be answered by someone working for a service provider.
(I currently work on the enterprise)


When three or more lmi requests sent from the router to the central office switch are 
missed the c.o. switch will either delete or inactivate the pvc.


Can someone explain to me the difference between a deleted pvc and an inactived
one? What is happening on the telco side.


Also, a url link to Cisco's documentation on this one would be helpful. (I tried a
search but can't seem to pinpoint the area)


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public router access?

2000-09-08 Thread Ron Mansolino


A buddy of mine asks:

> Do you remember the place that let you console into three of four
> different 2501's for an hour, and then reset the lab so that someone
> else could?  Was it somewhere at ciscostudy.com?  I can't seem to be
> able to find it right now...

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Re: Drive, Motivation and Determination !!!!!!!!

2000-09-08 Thread Vern Stitt


It's too bad that you don't live in the northeast,  Our local Cisco office
has lots of hands on events for resellers that don't cost anything.  The
handouts and presentations are stored on the web site in ZIP format in the
"Presentation/Document Archive" at

http://www.cisco-resellers.com/

The schedules for the Reseller Hands On events are also there.  I went to a
lot of them from a reseller that only sold one router and one PIX in a six
month period while I worked there.

Vern Stitt
ASE, CCA, CCNA, MCSE

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8par87$t5k$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8par87$t5k$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
I totally agree with you Terrence. I do not have the opportunity to work
with Cisco Products except AccessPro cards (2).
I also just started my own consulting firm, so it is not easy to be able to
buy the right equipment to paractice on. (NO $ available right now)

I have other certs CNE (3,4,5), MCSE, A+ where I get to practice my skills
everyday.
I also have CCA but do not get to work on Citrix anymore. Not a lot of firms
know about this product Citrix doesn't even have a demo version for labs.
All they provide is a virtual demo room in FLA.

There is also a time factor. I dedicate my time to working and trying to
build a customer base. The time that I can spend in my lab is minimal.
When you decide to study certification like Cisco it would be nice that
Cisco would let us use their lab. After all we are supporting their
products.
Wouldn't it make sense for them to want certified people that at least saw
their products (inside and out) and have minimal hands on?

When I first started this certification I phone my local Cisco office and
asked them if they had a lab I could use. I was turned away as if I was
crazy.
How is a person suppose to get real hands on in Edmonton Alberta? After I
get more knowledge (books) I will try to give my time freely to get some
experience.

Just my two cents.




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> lets face it. Any Certification that has no lab
> can be obtained by an average person with ENOUGH
> study. The CCIE can be passed if one has access to
> the right equipment. There is NEVER a need to take
> a class or have real experience. . .unless of course
> you actually want to be good at your job. Having said
> that, merely obtaining a cert like the CCNP or MCSE or
> CCNA is of some value depending on the depth of the
> job one needs to perform and the ability of an individual
> to translate theory into practice. Some people can do
> this better than others, but it depends on the individual
> and have much drive, motivation and determination one
> has. In the end, it is drive, motivation and determination
> that makes anyone good at whatever it is they do. . .Cert
> or not, degree or not, smart or average.
>
>
> >From: "Rishard Chapoteau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: "Rishard Chapoteau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: Anyone achieve their CCIE through self study not from work!
> >Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 16:02:35 -0400
> >
> >So your telling us you got your CCNP with no experience at all?  I
> >seriously
> >hope not.
> >
> >Rishard
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> >otherwise
> >my
> > > ccnp status is just a paperwork.
> > > I just wondering does CCIE can be earned through self study, not from
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Re: Bandwidth Estimation for WAN Link

2000-09-08 Thread John Whelan


www.2wire.com, for internet bandwidth

and a tool called qcheck from NETIQ for point to point bandwidth checks   I
would start with those



lee wrote:

> Hi all, has anyone did the bandwidth estimation for WAN link before ?
> i have a customer who has about 150+ users in the data center, due to the
> renovation reason, all this users need to be move to another new place for 6
> months. And this customer already decided to use leased line between the new
> place & existing data center ( some of the servers in existing data
> center ).
> My customer want me to do the bandwidth estimation for them, especially the
> coming leased line, they planned to get a 2Mbps link, is it sufficient ???
> how can i prove them that the 2Mbps link is sufficient or not ???
>
> FYI, all this 150+ users need to access the SAP server, Lotus Notes server
> via the coming leased line, is there anyway to capture the user request
> traffice & come out a statistic or something ??? Any tools that can be use
> for this circumstance ???
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> rgs,
> lee
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Passed BCRAN

2000-09-08 Thread Jeffrey Eiber


I passed BCRAN today with an 846 (706 to pass).  It wasn't nearly as
difficult as I was expecting.  I used the Cisco Press BCRAN book by Catherin
Paquet.  I read the book once, skimmed it a second time, then reviewed a few
chapters.  I wrote out lots and lots of config fragments for practice.
That's it.

Jeff


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RE: ISDN BRI dialout help

2000-09-08 Thread Zafar ul-Islam


Hello,
 
I have asked my provider and they confirmed they are using pap. Now I tried again 
while debugging "ppp auth" and "ppp neg". I can see a AUTH-NAK in the debug but am not 
sure what does this exactly mean? Can some one please advise whats going on here and 
how to fix it?
 
 
1d17h: %ISDN-6-LAYER2UP: Layer 2 for Interface BR0, TEI 64 changed to up
1d17h: ISDN BR0: TX ->  SETUP pd = 8  callref = 0x4A
1d17h: Bearer Capability i = 0x8890
1d17h: Channel ID i = 0x83
1d17h: Called Party Number i = 0x80, '1214'
1d17h: ISDN BR0: RX <-  SETUP_ACK pd = 8  callref = 0xCA
1d17h: Channel ID i = 0x89
1d17h: ISDN BR0: RX <-  CALL_PROC pd = 8  callref = 0xCA
1d17h: Channel ID i = 0x89
1d17h: ISDN BR0: RX <-  ALERTING pd = 8  callref = 0xCA
1d17h: ISDN BR0: RX <-  CONNECT pd = 8  callref = 0xCA
1d17h: Dat.e/Time i = 0x0009080B1A00
1d17h: ISDN BR0: TX ->  CONNECT_ACK pd = 8  callref = 0x4A
1d17h: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface BRI0:1, changed state to up
1d17h: BR0:1 PPP: Treating connection as a callout
1d17h: BR0:1 PPP: Phase is ESTABLISHING, Active Open
1d17h: BR0:1 PPP: No remote authentication for call-out
1d17h: BR0:1 LCP: O CONFREQ [Closed] id 198 len 10
1d17h: BR0:1 LCP:MagicNumber 0xE9AF7753 (0x0506E9AF7753)
1d17h: BR0:1 LCP: I CONFREQ [REQsent] id 1 len 26
1d17h: BR0:1 LCP:AuthProto PAP (0x0304C023)
1d17h: BR0:1 LCP:MagicNumber 0xDC5B675B (0x0506DC5B675B)
1d17h: BR0:1 LCP:MRRU 1500 (0x110405DC)
1d17h: BR0:1 LCP:MultilinkShortSeq (0x1202)
1d17h: BR0:1 LCP:EndpointDisc 1 Local (0x13060150444E)
1d17h: BR0:1 LCP: O CONFREJ [REQsent] id 1 len 16
1d17h: BR0:1 LCP:MRRU 1500 (0x110405DC)
1d17h: BR0:1 LCP:MultilinkShortSeq (0x1202)
1d17h: BR0:1 LCP:EndpointDisc 1 Local (0x13060150444E)
1d17h: BR0:1 LCP: I CONFREQ [REQsent] id 2 len 14
1d17h: BR0:1 LCP:AuthPro.to PAP (0x0304C023)
1d17h: BR0:1 LCP:MagicNumber 0xDC5B675B (0x0506DC5B675B)
1d17h: BR0:1 LCP: O CONFACK [REQsent] id 2 len 14
1d17h: BR0:1 LCP:AuthProto PAP (0x0304C023)
1d17h: BR0:1 LCP:MagicNumber 0xDC5B675B (0x0506DC5B675B)
1d17h: BR0:1 LCP: TIMEout: State ACKsent
1d17h: BR0:1 LCP: O CONFREQ [ACKsent] id 199 len 10
1d17h: BR0:1 LCP:MagicNumber 0xE9AF7753 (0x0506E9AF7753)
1d17h: BR0:1 LCP: I CONFACK [ACKsent] id 199 len 10
1d17h: BR0:1 LCP:MagicNumber 0xE9AF7753 (0x0506E9AF775.3)
1d17h: BR0:1 LCP: State is Open
1d17h: BR0:1 PPP: Phase is AUTHENTICATING, by the peer
1d17h: BR0:1 PAP: O AUTH-REQ id 145 len 24 from "delta"
1d17h: BR0:1 PAP: I AUTH-NAK id 145 len 5.
1d17h: %ISDN-6-CONNECT: Interface BRI0:1 is now connected to 1214 .
Success rate is 0 percent (0/5)

Router#
1d17h: BR0:1 PAP: O AUTH-REQ id 146 len 24 from "delta"
1d17h: BR0:1 PAP: I AUTH-NAK id 146 len 5
1d17h: BR0:1 PAP: O AUTH-REQ id 147 len 24 from "delta"
1d17h: BR0:1 PAP: I AUTH-NAK id 147 len 5
1d17h: BR0:1 LCP: I TERMREQ [Open] id 3 len 4
1d17h: BR0:1 LCP: O TERMACK [Open] id 3 len 4
1d17h: BR0:1 PPP: Phase is TERMINATING
1d17h: ISDN BR0: RX <-  DISCONNECT pd = 8  callref = 0xCA
1d17h: Cause i = 0x8090 - Normal call clearing
1d17h: %ISDN-6-DISCONNECT: Interface BRI0:1  disconnected from 1214 , call l
asted 22 seconds
1d17h: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface BRI0:1, changed state to down
1d17h: BR0:1 LCP: State is Closed
1d17h: BR0:1 PPP: Phase is DOWN
1d17h: ISDN BR0: TX ->  RELEASE pd = 8  callref = 0x4A
1d17h: Cause i = 0x809008 - Normal call clearing
1d17h: ISDN BR0: RX <-  RELEASE_COMP pd = 8  callref = 0xCA
1d17h: %ISDN-6-LAYER2DOWN: Layer 2 for Interface BR0, TEI 64 changed to down
 


-- Original Message --
From: "Miller, Nathan (AZ15)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 11:39:30 -0700 

>I had similar problems.  I would check with your provider regarding
>authentication.  It may be that they are requiring chap authentication?
>Issue "debug ppp auth" and "debug ppp neg" (assuming your IOS is relatively
>current) and look at the results when you try to connect.  This may give you
>some insight into where things are failing.  
> 
>Good Luck!  
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Zafar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 6:46 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: ISDN BRI dialout help
>
>
>
>Hello,
> 
>I am trying to configure ISDN BRI for dialout using 2503 but could not
>connect to remote access server of the ISP. I have taken a ISDN dialup
>account from ISP and it has given me "userid", passwd and dialup number. I
>tried these through normal dialup (windows dun) and it connects succesfully.
>Now I have following configuration for my 2503 router but this could not
>connect. Please advise if I am missing something as I am new to ISDN and
>doing it for the first time
> 
> 
>!
>interface BRI0
> ip address negotiated
> ip directed-broadcast
> encapsulation ppp
> no ip split-horizon
> dialer idle-timeout 2147483
> dialer string 1214
> dialer hold-queue 10
> dialer-group 1
> isdn switch-type

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