Re: Voice Over IP

2000-12-27 Thread Elias Aggelidis

See my inlined comments !

Regards

Elias Aggelidis
CCNP, CVoice, Security

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Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 7:44 AM
Subject: Voice Over IP


> Hi everybody,
>
> I need assistance on the VoIP problem I am facing :
>
> We are planning to have a VoIP setup on the already
> existing data link between our local and remote
> office.
> Both sites have Cisco 3640 routers configured for it.
>
> The router on the local site has IOS 11.3(9)T and the
> remote router has 12.0(5)T1 on it.

Cisco is proposing to use the same IOS in every routers.
>
> Is it necessary for the routers at both ends be
> running a similar version of IOS for the Voice calls
> to be successful. What kind of upgrade is required?

FLASH, MEM
>
> Secondly the loopback test (hairpinning) was
> successful for the local site but a similar test at
> the remote site was unsuccessful.
> Could that be due to any signalling problems ?

Check your config !
>
> Thanks & Regards
>
> Amit
>
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Re: Difference between Directed Boradcast and Mulitcast

2000-12-27 Thread Kevin_Cullimore


an aspect i did not notice to be covered in the response found below is the
following:

it appears to me that multicast technology incorporates control of traffic
distribution into the addressing scheme: all
multicast-rfc-compliant-devices will forward traffic to multiple hosts if
the destination address warrants it.

it also appears to me that directed broadcast is dependent upon the
configuration of each device in the potential path of a given wayward ip
packet: if a device is configured to forward directed broadcast, the packet
ambles on. if not, it expires in the fashion of most packets, within the
confines of the circuitry of the device that last received the packet.

so, with a directed broadcast, your device is indiscriminately forwarding
multiple-destination traffic on a per-interface-basis, while a multicast
implementation allows for some means of control as might be implemented
from the source end.


i'd humbly ask that members of the group advise everyone if it is the case
that, as usual, i'm way off base.






Jeff Kell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@groupstudy.com on 12/28/2000 01:23:00 AM

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Subject:  Re: Difference between Directed Boradcast and Mulitcast


Hunt wrote:
>
> What is the difference between Directed Boradcast and Mulitcast?

A multicast is an IP address 224.x.x.x/4 (224-239.x.x.x) while a
directed broadcast can be to any class A-B-C subnet; the directed
broadcast having all ones in the host part of the subnet address.

A "directed" broadcast is one which "may" be routed.  Similarly,
multicasts "may" be routed, and in the absence of any other parameters
it will be flooded across all router interfaces, while a directed
broadcast goes to a specific interface.

At the layer 2 level, broadcasts use the all ones MAC address of
FF-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF.  Multicasts have the second hex digit "odd" so that
the "little-endian" nature of the ethernet results in the low-order bit
of the second hex digit being transmitted first.  The NIC hardware
will detect this and signal an interrupt in anticipation of a
broadcast.  Smarter NICs will continue to receive and match the source
MAC (if not a broadcast) with designated multicast addresses it has been
told are "interesting".

There is also an interplay between multicast MACs and IPs (left as an
exercise for the reader).  For the first three bytes of the MAC, the
vendor ID (in the first three bytes) is preserved but the low order bit
of the first byte is set, making it odd (the second hex digit).  For
example, an HP manufactured NIC might have an 08-00-09 prefix; but
HP specific multicasts will have an 09-00-09 prefix.

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IP Multicasting TTL

2000-12-27 Thread Kevin Welch

I am boning up on IP multicasting and I have a question about TTL =
Thresholds.  When a multicast packet passes through an interface with a =
configured TTL threshold, is the TTL decremented my 1 or by the =
threshold value?

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RE: Quick Survey: Con or Aux?

2000-12-27 Thread Sam Adams

I thought the modem goes into the aux.  That's the way I have seen them.  I
would like to hear more about this as well.

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Subject: Quick Survey: Con or Aux?


Today I got into a discussion about the appropriate place to connect a
router for remote management of routers.  If you plug it into a console
port, you have the ability to reset the router and recover the password.
However, if you get disconnected, you leave a session open, causing a
security problem.  Although you can use exec-timeout, it still can make it
difficult to reconnect to it if you lose a connection.

So, I'm curious...what is everyone's opinion on the best place to plug a
modem in for remote management?  The console port or the AUX port?

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RE: "Token Ring in home lab" questions

2000-12-27 Thread Sam Adams

I have limited exposure with TR (but more to come with my new job) but I do
know a little.  I believe TR uses pins 3, 4, 5, and 6 pins.  Standard cat 5
will work cause the pins in the middle are lined up.  RO(ring out)is where
you connect the MAU or MSAU to the RI(ring in) of the next MAU/MSAU. Not
sure about the mau and the router but I think you can use a standard cat 5
with the filter.  (something about the high frequency of the utp)

Anyway, I hope that is some help.  (and I help I am right!)
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Subject: "Token Ring in home lab" questions


Dug through the archives and found very little on setting up Token Ring in a
home lab. I'm still confused. How is this done? Any good sites that I can go
to find out this information?

Among other equipment, I've got an SMC MAU, a Token Ring NIC installed in a
PC, DB-9 to RJ45 media filter, and a 2504. What type of cable do I need
between the media filter on the router and the MAU? I know it's not a
standard Cat 5 cable because Token Ring uses different pins than Ethernet.
What about the cable between the PC and the MAU? The NIC card can handle
either RJ-45 or DB-9.

On the MAU, there are two ports that are labeled RO and RI with small push
button switches next to them to enable or disable "wrap". What are these
for?

Any information would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Lori




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Re: traceroute question

2000-12-27 Thread Anil Yadav


Do you get the same results when Trace with the ip address instead ?


anil


On Wed, 27 Dec 2000, Rick Thompson wrote:

> Do you have an internal DNS server?  If so, then
> something may be misconfigured.  If not, then the
> traceroute may be trying to resolve and that is what
> is taking so long.
> --- mak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > 
> > I would like to know, suppose when I traceroute to
> > www.cisco.com.
> > Each entry within my network displays very slow,
> > once outside my
> > network, the entry display very fast. Why this
> > happen?
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about NBMA in ospf

2000-12-27 Thread garyty99

hi guys:
   I am confused by the "ip ospf network broadcast " in NBMA,
what is difference between the multiaccess like ethernert with it,
as the definition of NBMA,it has no broadcast ability,but why cisco can use
ip ospf network broadcast,if i am wrong ,please correct me
  
 
 thanks in advance

 
 




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Re: problems configuring a 5500 chasis please help

2000-12-27 Thread Robert Padjen

The RSM can be placed in any slot except for 1
(reserved for Supervisor) and 13 (reserved for ASP).
If you plan on using the ATM cell switching backplane
I would recommend placing the RSM in an upper slot
(9-12 are cell backplane capable). The RSM will only
communicate with a single 1.2 Gbps backplane of the 3
enabled with the Phoenix ASIC, so it doesn't matter
which slot of the 2-12 it is placed in.

The RSM will down an interface if no physical port in
the logical VLAN is active. This means that the switch
must be configured and the port must be active. As
noted previously, this might be the source of the
problem. Using the 'show interface' command will
resolve this consideration.

I have seen issues with older versions of code and
mis-matched speed/duplex cause the RSM to fail to
up/up. I'd recommend 4.5.5 at a minimum, and 12.0.9
for the RSM. Look at the ports also - use the switch
to verify that it can see the 'connected' switch at
Layer 2 - the RSM will not see things correctly if the
Supervisor does not. 



--- fmxiao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We've always put the RSM in Slot 4...
> 
> 
> "Mark Krysinski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
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> > Are you sure you can plug the RSM into slot #2.  I
> remember someone
> telling
> > me to have it in slot 12.  Please let me know if
> this is the case, our
> 5500
> > uses slot 2 for a back up sup III module and slot
> 12 for the RSM with Vip
> > module.
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > -Original Message-
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> > viathin
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> > Subject: Re: problems configuring a 5500 chasis
> please help
> >
> >
> > I tried plugging in an active switch into  vlan
> 100 and it still was
> saying
> > that the vlan was not active or at least it
> appeared that way and i
> couldn't
> > ping it.
> >
> > ""Brian Gleason"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > >
> > > Try plugging in a client machine into each of
> your vlans.  I had this
> > > problem with a 6509 and once the client link
> state came up, the
> interface
> > > came up.
> > >
> > >
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> > > > I'm having trouble configuring one router was
> wondering if you could
> > help
> > > >
> > > > We are configuring a 5500 Chassis with:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1) WS X5530 Supervisor Engine (Slot 1)
> > > > > > 2) WS X5302 Route Switch Module (Slot 2)
> > > > > > 3) WS 5224 Switch ports (24 copper ports)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A)
> > > > > > We have defined:
> > > > > > VLAN 100 on 3/1-4
> > > > > > VLAN 200 on 3/5-8
> > > > > > VLAN 300 on 3/9-12
> > > > > > VLAN 500 on 3/21-24
> > > > > > B)
> > > > > > We have created the interfaces on the RSM:
> > > > > > Config Terminal:
> > > > > > 1) Interface vlan 100
> > > > > > ip address 192.170.1.1 255.255.255.0
> > > > > > 2) Interface vlan 200
> > > > > > ip address 192.170.2.1 255.255.255.0
> > > > > > 3) Interface vlan 300
> > > > > > ip address 192.170.3.1 255.255.255.0
> > > > > > 5) Interface vlan 500
> > > > > > ip address 192.170.5.1 255.255.255.0
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Performed a no shutdown command on all
> interfaces.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > C)
> > > > > > We implemented "eigrp 1"  as the routing
> protocol using:
> > > > > > Interface vlan 100
> > > > > > router eigrp 1
> > > > > > network 192.170.1.0
> > > > > > network 192.170.2.0
> > > > > > network 192.170.3.0
> > > > > > network 192.170.5.0
> > > > > > The above was repeated for all vlans
> (100,200,300,500)
> > > > > > D)
> > > > > > 1) Can not ping any vlan interfaces.
> > > > > > 2) Performed a "Show Interface" and it
> shows all interfaces are
> > down.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for looking into this and we
> appreciate any insight on this
> > > > > > problem.
> > > > > >
> > > > > Craig.
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RE: So what SHOULD a CCIE know?

2000-12-27 Thread Lou Nelson

Bridging... DSL is making a comeback in bridging...  I have also had to use
it in some routers for a period of time as a workaround

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Humm... interesting question.

>From one point of view...

What should be tested (or not tested):

In over 10 years of IT work I have only ran across AppleTalk once, so drop
AppleTalk (which they are doing).

In the same time frame I have only ran across one IPX network that wasn't
either in the process of being converted to 100BaseT or was only being used
in the DC to connect to a Novell server that was a file server which had
it's drives mapped to NT drives. So IPX should take a big back seat to IP.

TR, well personally I like it, but again I have only seen one network with
TR that wasn't planned to be changed to 100BaseT. Come to think of it, they
announced the upgrade a couple of months after I left there. So TR should
also be in the back seat.

Bridging, humm... well in some respects it is rarely used in the networks I
have seen, mostly to get to SNA servers. But then again you had better know
your IRB pretty well with all of the L3 switching that companies are being
sold these days.

L3 switching, better know that pretty well. There are just too many
companies being sold L3 that it had better take a bigger role in the lab.

The R/S written and lab should take on more of the service provider element.
I am not saying that the new SP track should be rolled into the RS track.
But with outsourcing and the Internet with VPN, dial and the like taking a
bigger and bigger role in most companies, better know your ATM, dial, VPN,
BGP, etc, etc. The same can be said for security.

Not having taken the lab, I can not really say as to how IPX, TR, or
bridging is tested. It could be that it is tested as a primary thing and not
as a secondary, e.g. "well looks like we are going to have to deal with that
TR segment over rather we want to or not". The same could be said for ATM,
maybe it should be a primary and not a secondary.

Well there is $0.02 from one point of view, HTH.
--
John Hardman CCNP MCSE+I


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> We've all seen a number of comments about the CCIE written and the CCIE
Lab,
> regarding content. Most of those comments have been negative.
>
> So, what SHOULD be tested? What SHOULD a CCIE know?
>
> Anyone?
>
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Re: Difference between Directed Boradcast and Mulitcast

2000-12-27 Thread Jeff Kell

Hunt wrote:
> 
> What is the difference between Directed Boradcast and Mulitcast?

A multicast is an IP address 224.x.x.x/4 (224-239.x.x.x) while a
directed broadcast can be to any class A-B-C subnet; the directed
broadcast having all ones in the host part of the subnet address.

A "directed" broadcast is one which "may" be routed.  Similarly,
multicasts "may" be routed, and in the absence of any other parameters
it will be flooded across all router interfaces, while a directed
broadcast goes to a specific interface.  

At the layer 2 level, broadcasts use the all ones MAC address of
FF-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF.  Multicasts have the second hex digit "odd" so that
the "little-endian" nature of the ethernet results in the low-order bit
of the second hex digit being transmitted first.  The NIC hardware
will detect this and signal an interrupt in anticipation of a
broadcast.  Smarter NICs will continue to receive and match the source
MAC (if not a broadcast) with designated multicast addresses it has been
told are "interesting".  

There is also an interplay between multicast MACs and IPs (left as an
exercise for the reader).  For the first three bytes of the MAC, the
vendor ID (in the first three bytes) is preserved but the low order bit
of the first byte is set, making it odd (the second hex digit).  For
example, an HP manufactured NIC might have an 08-00-09 prefix; but 
HP specific multicasts will have an 09-00-09 prefix.  

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Good amazon deal

2000-12-27 Thread Brian


Amazon has Roosevelt Giles CCIE Study Guide for $10.00 right now, just
goto clearence items, computers, and then search the page for "CCIE".

Not a bad deal at all

Brian


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RE: So what SHOULD a CCIE know?

2000-12-27 Thread Lou Nelson

owww... Like HE ate for breakfast... I am telling

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I feel that a CCIE should know everything in his technology specialty (i.e.
routed
global networks with enterprise switching) like he ate it for breakfast. For
everything
else a CCIE should have a general knowledge and know exactly how and where
to find more
information on the subject.

About the tests:  I think they are good, though they could be a bit more in
depth (maybe
more questions on certain topics).  When I took the written the first time I
came out of
it with a headache and a clear path of what I needed to work on.  I'm glad
to see that
they are retiring some of the older protocols, but for those that work
strictly in the
IP area it can be a burden to learn things we have never touched and don't
work with.

-j

Chuck Larrieu wrote:

> We've all seen a number of comments about the CCIE written and the CCIE
Lab,
> regarding content. Most of those comments have been negative.
>
> So, what SHOULD be tested? What SHOULD a CCIE know?
>
> Anyone?
>
> Chuck
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How many vlans can the RSM support?

2000-12-27 Thread Liu Jianxin-qch1927

Happy new year!

If we want to use RSM for InterVlan on Cat5500, 
How many Vlans can a RSM support?

I checked the doc but no finding.

Thanks,

Jianxin Liu

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Voice Over IP

2000-12-27 Thread Amit Gupta

Hi everybody,

I need assistance on the VoIP problem I am facing :

We are planning to have a VoIP setup on the already
existing data link between our local and remote
office.
Both sites have Cisco 3640 routers configured for it.

The router on the local site has IOS 11.3(9)T and the
remote router has 12.0(5)T1 on it.

Is it necessary for the routers at both ends be
running a similar version of IOS for the Voice calls
to be successful. What kind of upgrade is required?

Secondly the loopback test (hairpinning) was
successful for the local site but a similar test at
the remote site was unsuccessful.
Could that be due to any signalling problems ?

Thanks & Regards

Amit


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640-445 SNAM

2000-12-27 Thread Stevan Pierce

Anyone have any experience with the 640-445 SNA for Multiprotocol
Administrators test?  (Assuming that you are not going to violate the NDA
that Cisco asks you to sign.)

TIA

Stevan


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Re: Re: 7505 Reboots randomly Please HELP

2000-12-27 Thread Rob Montgomery

I'm having this somewhat same problem on my 2521.  It reboots randomly.  I
have NOT upgraded the code and it just started this.

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> Follow up on this topic.
>
> A couple of things I did not glean from your post was whether
> this router was a new (to you) install, or whether it was
> previously working and you recently upgraded the code.  If the
> case is the latter, I am in strong agreement with Jim Dixon
> that the likely culprit in the process is probably the version
> of code you are running.  Specifically, did you have stable
> code on this router and upgrade to a newer 12.x image whereby
> the problems resulted?  If so, it is a very strong indicator
> that the problem is with your software, not the hardware.  If
> you do have CCO access, you may want to consider putting some
> very stable GD type code, such as 11.2(17) and see if that
> works.  If so, and the 12.x code you have does not work, then
> you will need to do some experimentation to see what code is
> stable for the hardware you have and the features you *need*.
> That can only come about through testing.  You may also find
> that 12.1x code may have fixed any potential anomalies that
> 12.0x code may have presented.
>
> HTH,
>
> Paul Werner
>
>
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Re: Confused (was Re: is this statement true ??)

2000-12-27 Thread Jeff Kell

"Bowen, Shawn" wrote:
> 
> I believe we are saying mostly the same thing.  Your "* Extended carrier to
> indicate busy (assert carrier beyond the length of the packet)." Is an
> Ethernet JAM signal. 

> And I also guess I wanted to point out that the Cisco documentation is
> not "always" 100% accurate in the real world.

I must respectfully disagree again.  The "jam" signal is asserted after
a collision detection and most commonly simply continues to transmit 
the data in the collided packet for another 64 bits.  The flow control
method of "assert carrier beyond the length of the packet" is entirely
different -- it is sending the 802.3 preamble of 0x05 continuously 
without the trailing 8th byte 0xD5 (I'm pulling this from my somewhat
foggy memory on the values, but the preamble is 7 bytes of "something"
followed by a byte signalling the start-of-packet, so don't shoot me
if my values aren't correct).

As for Cisco documentation, and some others, they refer to this method
of flow control as "back pressure".  It has the advantage of not 
propagating a collision (as in the intentional collision method of 
flow control) as it will not interfere with any other hub/switch/NIC
on the network other than causing a transmit deferral.  But as I had
said earlier, 10Mb NICs have logic to detect carrier (or preamble) 
being asserted longer than the MTU plus propagation delay and consider
this to be "jabber".  This was not carried forward to 100Mb or 1Gb NICs.

But I will concur on your statement:

> The only reason I took it to any depth was the fact that other than duplex
> mismatches a lot of people getting into this field (reading these posts)
> haven't ever been exposed to such nuances.

I value real world experience much more than some CC** acronym after
your signature.  This is the stuff you need to know that no boot camp
will teach you, and I value this "outside the mainstream" information.
I don't read this list for the obvious topics, it's the fringe areas 
that you can learn about that makes it worth it.  

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Re: Re: 7505 Reboots randomly Please HELP

2000-12-27 Thread Paul Werner

Follow up on this topic.

A couple of things I did not glean from your post was whether 
this router was a new (to you) install, or whether it was 
previously working and you recently upgraded the code.  If the 
case is the latter, I am in strong agreement with Jim Dixon 
that the likely culprit in the process is probably the version 
of code you are running.  Specifically, did you have stable 
code on this router and upgrade to a newer 12.x image whereby 
the problems resulted?  If so, it is a very strong indicator 
that the problem is with your software, not the hardware.  If 
you do have CCO access, you may want to consider putting some 
very stable GD type code, such as 11.2(17) and see if that 
works.  If so, and the 12.x code you have does not work, then 
you will need to do some experimentation to see what code is 
stable for the hardware you have and the features you *need*.  
That can only come about through testing.  You may also find 
that 12.1x code may have fixed any potential anomalies that 
12.0x code may have presented.  

HTH,

Paul Werner



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Re: "Token Ring in home lab" questions

2000-12-27 Thread Circusnuts

Lori- it's usually very cheap & easy.  Funny thing (from the Ebay prices) it
appears people are steering clear of Token Ring.  OK- you need a MAU (which
you have), 2 cables (DB9 to that funny IBM connector), or 1 cable standard
cable & 1 for the NIC (which can either be RJ45 or DB9).  Your connection is
made on the numbered ports.  The R0 & R1 are for daisy chaining the MAU's
together.

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/core/cis7505/ipicg/ipicgtrp.
htm#xtocid40785
Here's the shpeal on the cables...

Once you have two stations (I use a 2512 & a 4000), just set the IP's & the
ring speed (4 or 16)... you should hear the MAU clicking & your off to the
races.

Best of Luck
Phil

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Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 10:15 PM
Subject: "Token Ring in home lab" questions


> Dug through the archives and found very little on setting up Token Ring in
a home lab. I'm still confused. How is this done? Any good sites that I can
go to find out this information?
>
> Among other equipment, I've got an SMC MAU, a Token Ring NIC installed in
a PC, DB-9 to RJ45 media filter, and a 2504. What type of cable do I need
between the media filter on the router and the MAU? I know it's not a
standard Cat 5 cable because Token Ring uses different pins than Ethernet.
What about the cable between the PC and the MAU? The NIC card can handle
either RJ-45 or DB-9.
>
> On the MAU, there are two ports that are labeled RO and RI with small push
button switches next to them to enable or disable "wrap". What are these
for?
>
> Any information would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Lori
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Re: crossover or straight cable?

2000-12-27 Thread sean

Tony,

Are you saying that, to connect  "trunk" ports between switches, crossover
cable is required?

I know for "switch" ports that's the case, I am wondering if it is true for
trunk as well.

Tks


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Re: traceroute question

2000-12-27 Thread Rick Thompson

Do you have an internal DNS server?  If so, then
something may be misconfigured.  If not, then the
traceroute may be trying to resolve and that is what
is taking so long.
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> 
> I would like to know, suppose when I traceroute to
> www.cisco.com.
> Each entry within my network displays very slow,
> once outside my
> network, the entry display very fast. Why this
> happen?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Regards,
> mak
> 
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Re: crossover or straight cable?

2000-12-27 Thread Tony van Ree

Would it not depend on what you are connecting to.  For example from a switch port to 
another switch port both the ports would be the same signalling therefore a cross-over 
would be required. From a switch to a router the ports a different a straight cable 
should do fine.

What we a trying to achieve is a transmit wire connecting to a recieve.  If this does 
not occur in the ports then we must do it in the cable (cross-over cable).  A transmit 
must connect to a receive for a circuit to work.

Lets say from a switch pins 1 RD+; 2 RD-; 3 TD+; 6 TD-
Pins 4, 5, 7 & 8 are not used in ethernet.
If they were connecting to another switch we would need a crossover to have pin 1 RD+ 
connecting to 3 TD+

In a router or PC the connetions are 1 TD+; 2 TD-; 3 RD+; 6RD-
A straigh cable would connect pin 1 (switch) RD+ to pin 1 (adaptor) TD+ and so on.

A long winded Teunis explanation but this I hope helps.


Teunis
Hobart, Tasmania
Australia





On Wednesday, December 27, 2000 at 07:54:12 PM, sean wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I am just wondering... does trunking use crossover or straight cable?
> 
> Thanks
> 
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Re: Cisco Certification Digest V2 #906

2000-12-27 Thread Daniel Keller

I will be on vacation until January 8 and out of pager and cell phone range.  For all 
network related issues please contact our Network Operations Center at 800-610-4684.

Dan Keller

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RE: EIGRP problem

2000-12-27 Thread Brian Hescock

I may have missed some of the earlier thread but what would be beneficial
is show version from the routers and show run (that should be a given
anytime someone posts a problem with a production network).  Not having
another other information, it sounds like a bug. The reason I say it
sounds like a bug is because the default being redistributed by the 4000
came back as soon as a clear ip route * was done and the problem comes
back after a few days. Had the problem been something related to a change
in the network itself, the default route should have come back by
itself.  And if that situation hadn't changed the default route should
have never come back after clearing the routes, the situation should have
remained the same.  

Brian

On Wed, 27 Dec 2000, ChrisH wrote:

> I assume you are doing floating static route? Did you filter out EIGRP and
> SNMP in your access-list? Did you disable cdp? For example:
> 
> interface BRI0/0
>  bandwidth 56
>  ip address 10.1.x.y 255.255.255.0
>  no ip directed-broadcast
>  encapsulation ppp
>  no ip route-cache
>  no ip mroute-cache
>  dialer idle-timeout 300
>  dialer wait-for-carrier-time 10
>  dialer map ip 10.1.x.2 name hq speed 56 broadcast 18735185470
>  dialer map ip 10.1.x.1 name hq speed 56 broadcast 18735185472
>  dialer-group 1
>  isdn switch-type basic-ni
>  no cdp enable
>  ppp authentication chap
>  ppp multilink
> !
> router eigrp 1
>  network 10.0.0.0
>  no auto-summary
> ip classless
> ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 10.1.2.1 240
> ip route 10.11.0.1 255.255.255.255 BRI0/0
> ip route 10.99.99.99 255.255.255.255 BRI0/0
> no ip http server
> !
> access-list 102 deny   eigrp any any
> access-list 102 deny   udp any any eq snmp
> access-list 102 permit ip any any
> dialer-list 1 protocol ip list 102
> 
> 
> Chris
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Jim Bond
> Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 8:08 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: EIGRP problem
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> We have 4000 router and 5200 router at central office,
> 2500 routers and 3640 routers at branch office. 4000
> and 2500s are connected with frame relay, 5200 and
> 3640s are connected with ISDN backup. Eigrp is the
> only protocol. We have a default route from 4000 and
> it got advertised on 2500s and 3640s as AD /170. We
> also configure a default route on 3640s with AD /200
> so in case frame is down, /200 default route will take
> over and then can bring up ISDN.
> 
> The problem is sometimes when frame is ok, 3640 router
> default route changes to AD /200 and hence brings up
> ISDN backup (3640 also serves as RAS server). When I
> do "clear ip route", the AD /170 default route will
> come back again, then some days later, it'll get
> replaced by the AD /200 one.
> 
> We use the same IOS on all routers but this only
> happened on some branch offices, not all of them. Any
> idea what wrong it is?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> 
> Jim
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RE: EIGRP problem

2000-12-27 Thread ChrisH



-Original Message-
From: ChrisH [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 9:46 PM
To: Jim Bond; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: EIGRP problem


I assume you are doing floating static route? Did you filter out EIGRP and
SNMP in your access-list? Did you disable cdp? For example:

interface BRI0/0
 bandwidth 56
 ip address 10.1.x.y 255.255.255.0
 no ip directed-broadcast
 encapsulation ppp
 no ip route-cache
 no ip mroute-cache
 dialer idle-timeout 300
 dialer wait-for-carrier-time 10
 dialer map ip 10.1.x.2 name hq speed 56 broadcast 18735185470
 dialer map ip 10.1.x.1 name hq speed 56 broadcast 18735185472
 dialer-group 1
 isdn switch-type basic-ni
 no cdp enable
 ppp authentication chap
 ppp multilink
!
router eigrp 1
 network 10.0.0.0
 no auto-summary
ip classless
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 10.1.2.1 240
ip route 10.11.0.1 255.255.255.255 BRI0/0
ip route 10.99.99.99 255.255.255.255 BRI0/0
no ip http server
!
access-list 102 deny   eigrp any any
access-list 102 deny   udp any any eq snmp
access-list 102 permit ip any any
dialer-list 1 protocol ip list 102


Chris
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Jim Bond
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 8:08 PM

The problem is sometimes when frame is ok, 3640 router
default route changes to AD /200 and hence brings up
ISDN backup (3640 also serves as RAS server). When I
do "clear ip route", the AD /170 default route will
come back again, then some days later, it'll get
replaced by the AD /200 one.

We use the same IOS on all routers but this only
happened on some branch offices, not all of them. Any
idea what wrong it is?

Thanks in advance.


Jim


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Re: traceroute question

2000-12-27 Thread suaveguru

best if you could provide the trace route results in
details otherwise it would be latency issues


regards,

suaveguru
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> 
> I would like to know, suppose when I traceroute to
> www.cisco.com.
> Each entry within my network displays very slow,
> once outside my
> network, the entry display very fast. Why this
> happen?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Regards,
> mak
> 
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Re: EIGRP problem

2000-12-27 Thread Dennis

Without having all the configs and info, I'll take a shot at this.

Since this is only happening at some sites you may want to look at utilization on the
frame links.  If your utilization is so high that you are missing eigrp hellos, the
routing protocol may decide that the route is not there and the router will use the 
next
best route in the routing table which would be the floating static that you have
configured for DDR backup.

If the above is not the case, then perhaps you have a combination of two problems:
First, you do not have correct bandwidth statements on the interfaces and second you 
are
not being specific enough when you define interesting traffic to bring up the backup
link.  What you want to do is write an access list that will deny eigrp but permit
everything else.  This will be used in the dialer list then applied to the BRI 
interface
with the 'dialer-group' command.  This only causes eigrp to NOT bring up the link but
will permit eigrp traffic once the link is up.

Another thing to be careful of is that if the frame link is up and the isdn line does
become active, you don't want that remote site to become a transit path to the rest of
the network.  You should use distribute-lists at the remote sites to only advertise
networks behind the remote routers.

Anyway, just my humble opinion without all the info.  Hope it helps.  If not and you 
are
able to provide additional information, I would be glad to try to help more.

-dennis



Jim Bond wrote:

> Hello,
>
> We have 4000 router and 5200 router at central office,
> 2500 routers and 3640 routers at branch office. 4000
> and 2500s are connected with frame relay, 5200 and
> 3640s are connected with ISDN backup. Eigrp is the
> only protocol. We have a default route from 4000 and
> it got advertised on 2500s and 3640s as AD /170. We
> also configure a default route on 3640s with AD /200
> so in case frame is down, /200 default route will take
> over and then can bring up ISDN.
>
> The problem is sometimes when frame is ok, 3640 router
> default route changes to AD /200 and hence brings up
> ISDN backup (3640 also serves as RAS server). When I
> do "clear ip route", the AD /170 default route will
> come back again, then some days later, it'll get
> replaced by the AD /200 one.
>
> We use the same IOS on all routers but this only
> happened on some branch offices, not all of them. Any
> idea what wrong it is?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Jim
>
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Re: Quick Survey: Con or Aux?

2000-12-27 Thread Tony van Ree

Hooking up to a console maybe not so good.  Should you want to do some debugs and your 
console decides to lock up what then??

I would suggest using the aux with no logging console set.  Worst case scenario is 
having to login using the console to do what maybe required.  Really using the con 
should only happen when needed.

Just a thought

Teunis
Hobart, Tasmania
Australia


On Wednesday, December 27, 2000 at 07:53:55 PM, Kelly D Griffin wrote:

> I take it that you meant a modem hooked up to a router.  Correct?
> 
> Kelly D Griffin, CCNA
> Network Engineer
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> 
> 
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> Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 6:19 PM
> Subject: Quick Survey: Con or Aux?
> 
> 
> > Today I got into a discussion about the appropriate place to connect a
> > router for remote management of routers.  If you plug it into a console
> > port, you have the ability to reset the router and recover the password.
> > However, if you get disconnected, you leave a session open, causing a
> > security problem.  Although you can use exec-timeout, it still can make it
> > difficult to reconnect to it if you lose a connection.
> >
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> > modem in for remote management?  The console port or the AUX port?
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RE: T3 and Ds3

2000-12-27 Thread MCDONALD, ROMAN (SBCSI)

One minor detail - you forgot the 1. in front of the 544Mb/s.

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Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 8:00 PM
To: John Hardman; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: T3 and Ds3


Hope this helps to  clarify things.

Makeeda


"DS1 (Digital Service Level 1)

544Mb/s. Another name for a T1. The specific difference between a DS1 and a
T1 is that the T1 is on copper and comes with a -135-V battery voltage, and
the DS1 is a dry circuit, on copper or fiber-optic lines, with no battery
voltage. Other than that, they are the same. A DS1 has a total bandwidth or
transmission speed of 1.544 Mb/s. The 1.544 Mb/s is divided into 24 64Kb/s
channels. A DS1 (T1) is available in several different packages that offer
different line formats and framing formats. The package that a customer
requests from a phone company depends on what they want to use the DS1 for
and what kind of equipment they have. Telecommunications customers use DS1
circuits as private lines to connect data devices from one geographical
place to another or to transport large amounts of dial tone to the premises.
DS1 circuits are also used to connect directly to a long-distance company
for broadband WAN service. Telecommunications companies also use DS1 (they
are T1 circuits within their own network) circuits to provide more telephone
service where a shortage of twisted pairs is available.

DS3 (Digital Service Level 3)

44.736Mb/s. A DS3 is a circuit that is provided to customers by telephone
companies. It is a transport for 28 T1 circuits, which adds up to 672 DS0
circuits (voice channels). Telecommunications customers use DS3 circuits as
private lines to connect data devices from one geographical place to another
or to transport large amounts of dial tone to the premises. DS3 circuits are
also used to connect directly to a long-distance company for broadband WAN
service. Telecommunications companies also use DS3 circuits to provide more
telephone service where a shortage of twisted pairs is in their cable plant.
Sometimes it is less expensive for a telephone company to install the DS3
electronics in areas, rather than long feeds of large twisted copper-pair
cables."




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Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 8:18 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: T3 and Ds3


Hi

Yep terminology, typically T1, T3 in the telco world imply the capabillity
to carry voice and/or data. DS1, DS3 are typically used to refer to data
only lines.

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Re: traceroute question

2000-12-27 Thread Jason_Atkins


I would say it is due to DNS lookups and your inside network is not listed
on your DNS server.


Jason...


   
 
mak
 
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Sent by: Subject: traceroute question  
 
nobody@groups  
 
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28/12/2000 
 
12:28 PM   
 
Please 
 
respond to 
 
mak
 
   
 
   
 




Dear All,

I would like to know, suppose when I traceroute to www.cisco.com.
Each entry within my network displays very slow, once outside my
network, the entry display very fast. Why this happen?

Thanks

Regards,
mak


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RE: traceroute question

2000-12-27 Thread Bowen, Shawn

Probably DNS resolution timeouts internally and they are resolving
externally avoiding the timeouts involved.

Shawn

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Subject: traceroute question

Dear All,

I would like to know, suppose when I traceroute to www.cisco.com.
Each entry within my network displays very slow, once outside my
network, the entry display very fast. Why this happen?

Thanks

Regards,
mak


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RE: EIGRP problem

2000-12-27 Thread ChrisH

I assume you are doing floating static route? Did you filter out EIGRP and
SNMP in your access-list? Did you disable cdp? For example:

interface BRI0/0
 bandwidth 56
 ip address 10.1.x.y 255.255.255.0
 no ip directed-broadcast
 encapsulation ppp
 no ip route-cache
 no ip mroute-cache
 dialer idle-timeout 300
 dialer wait-for-carrier-time 10
 dialer map ip 10.1.x.2 name hq speed 56 broadcast 18735185470
 dialer map ip 10.1.x.1 name hq speed 56 broadcast 18735185472
 dialer-group 1
 isdn switch-type basic-ni
 no cdp enable
 ppp authentication chap
 ppp multilink
!
router eigrp 1
 network 10.0.0.0
 no auto-summary
ip classless
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 10.1.2.1 240
ip route 10.11.0.1 255.255.255.255 BRI0/0
ip route 10.99.99.99 255.255.255.255 BRI0/0
no ip http server
!
access-list 102 deny   eigrp any any
access-list 102 deny   udp any any eq snmp
access-list 102 permit ip any any
dialer-list 1 protocol ip list 102


Chris
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Subject: EIGRP problem


Hello,

We have 4000 router and 5200 router at central office,
2500 routers and 3640 routers at branch office. 4000
and 2500s are connected with frame relay, 5200 and
3640s are connected with ISDN backup. Eigrp is the
only protocol. We have a default route from 4000 and
it got advertised on 2500s and 3640s as AD /170. We
also configure a default route on 3640s with AD /200
so in case frame is down, /200 default route will take
over and then can bring up ISDN.

The problem is sometimes when frame is ok, 3640 router
default route changes to AD /200 and hence brings up
ISDN backup (3640 also serves as RAS server). When I
do "clear ip route", the AD /170 default route will
come back again, then some days later, it'll get
replaced by the AD /200 one.

We use the same IOS on all routers but this only
happened on some branch offices, not all of them. Any
idea what wrong it is?

Thanks in advance.


Jim

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Re: So what SHOULD a CCIE know?

2000-12-27 Thread Scott McClure


""John Hardman"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Humm... interesting question.
>
> From one point of view...
>
> What should be tested (or not tested):
>
> In over 10 years of IT work I have only ran across AppleTalk once, so drop
> AppleTalk (which they are doing).
>
> In the same time frame I have only ran across one IPX network that wasn't
> either in the process of being converted to 100BaseT or was only being
used
> in the DC to connect to a Novell server that was a file server which had
> it's drives mapped to NT drives. So IPX should take a big back seat to IP.
>
That's a pretty cool trick.  Tell me how to convert my IPX network to
100BaseT and how I map my Novell server's drive to NT drives.  WOW!

My $.02

Scott McClure, MCNE, CCDA, CCNP, (+Written)

> TR, well personally I like it, but again I have only seen one network with
> TR that wasn't planned to be changed to 100BaseT. Come to think of it,
they
> announced the upgrade a couple of months after I left there. So TR should
> also be in the back seat.
>
> Bridging, humm... well in some respects it is rarely used in the networks
I
> have seen, mostly to get to SNA servers. But then again you had better
know
> your IRB pretty well with all of the L3 switching that companies are being
> sold these days.
>
> L3 switching, better know that pretty well. There are just too many
> companies being sold L3 that it had better take a bigger role in the lab.
>
> The R/S written and lab should take on more of the service provider
element.
> I am not saying that the new SP track should be rolled into the RS track.
> But with outsourcing and the Internet with VPN, dial and the like taking a
> bigger and bigger role in most companies, better know your ATM, dial, VPN,
> BGP, etc, etc. The same can be said for security.
>
> Not having taken the lab, I can not really say as to how IPX, TR, or
> bridging is tested. It could be that it is tested as a primary thing and
not
> as a secondary, e.g. "well looks like we are going to have to deal with
that
> TR segment over rather we want to or not". The same could be said for ATM,
> maybe it should be a primary and not a secondary.
>
> Well there is $0.02 from one point of view, HTH.
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> Lab,
> > regarding content. Most of those comments have been negative.
> >
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> >
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Re: So what SHOULD a CCIE know?

2000-12-27 Thread Scott McClure

Howard:

I agree and disagree.  I think you are right on the money with your
observations, but only as they pertain to the R/S CCIE.  I think Cisco
should (and is beginning to) address the more specialized knowledge areas by
offering multiple certification tracks.  (eg. SNA, ISP, Voice???).  Once
these other tracks really catch hold, I think you will see more people
moving away from the R/S tracks and into the areas of specialized knowledge
and experience required for their particular jobs, as you so deftly stated.

Scott McClure

""Howard C. Berkowitz"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >
> I'll make a few observations, some of which may be controversial.  I
> realize many people look at CCIE as the ultimate, but I can't
> consider it such. It is meaningful, but there are lots of jobs that
> require more and/or more specialized knowledge and experience.




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traceroute question

2000-12-27 Thread mak

Dear All,

I would like to know, suppose when I traceroute to www.cisco.com.
Each entry within my network displays very slow, once outside my
network, the entry display very fast. Why this happen?

Thanks

Regards,
mak


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ISDN Dialer Watch / IP OSPF Demand Circuit

2000-12-27 Thread Evan You

Hi all,

I am in the process of configuration a bunch of routers to do ISDN dial
backup.
Has any body worked with Dialer Watch on a router running OSPF? I know that
some Cisco document says that Dialer Watch is only supported in EIGRP and
IGRP. But others say any Dynamic routing protocols.  Also, has any one used
the IP OSPF Demand Circuit? This option is suppose to control the types of
LSAs that are sent across the dial line. It reduces the amount of
Access-list that is needed to monitor the traffic.  Basically, I am using 4
BRIs in a Dialer Interface with ip unnumbered Loopback0. Then, I will be
using Dialer Watch to trigger the ISDN calls and run OSPF Demand Circuit to
control packed over the dial link. Defaulting back to the serial link will
be done based on OSPF cost statement once the link comes back. Does this
sound like it's feasible or is it too much to handle?
Any help will be greatly appreciated!
Evan You - CCNA / Soon to be CCNP
interface BRI1/0
description connected into a rotary group
no ip address
encapsulation ppp
dialer rotary-group 0
isdn switch-type basic-net3
isdn T310 1
no fair-queue
no cdp enable
!
interface BRI1/1
no ip address
encapsulation ppp
dialer rotary-group 0
isdn switch-type basic-net3
isdn T310 1
no fair-queue
no cdp enable
!
interface BRI1/2
no ip address
encapsulation ppp
dialer rotary-group 0
isdn switch-type basic-net3
isdn T310 1
no fair-queue
no cdp enable
!
interface BRI1/3
no ip address
encapsulation ppp
dialer rotary-group 0
isdn switch-type basic-net3
isdn T310 1
no fair-queue
no cdp enable
!
interface Dialer0
description Dialer group controlling the BRIs
ip unnumbered Loopback0
encapsulation ppp
ip ospf cost 1500
ip ospf demand-circuit
dialer in-band
dialer idle-timeout 500
dialer map ip 53.29.248.2 name hostname broadcast 000
dialer load-threshold 30 either
dialer watch-group 1
no fair-queue
no cdp enable
ppp authentication chap
ppp multilink
hold-queue 100 in
!
dialer watch-list 1 ip 10.10.10.10 255.255.255.252
dialer watch-list 1 ip 10.1.2.12 255.255.255.252

Evan You - CCNA / Soon CCNP

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great everybody

2000-12-27 Thread lijun

hello,today is very cool,keep me waking.yesterday i make a nat
lab.enviroment is here,simple:
 pc-sw-r1(2511)---(64kddn)--r2(router at isp)internet
pc:10.10.10.1/24
r1:lan:10.10.10.2/24
   wan:202.99.37.34/30
r2:wan:202.99.37.33/30

   i want keep tracking the interface on r1 to r2 such as s0.i make a
mirror between r1 wan and lan,and may i ping virtual lan interface to know
exactly interface wan's state
r1 configuration:
lan:ip nat inside
wan:ip nat outside
wan nat is :ip nat source outside static 202.99.37.34 10.10.10.5
when interface wan in normal state i can ping 10.10.10.5 and 202.99.37.34
when i disconnect wan on r1,i can not ping 202.99.37.34 but can ping
10.10.10.5
   i changed my r1 configuration:
 lan:ip nat outside
 wan:ip nat inside
 wan nat is :ip nat source inside static 202.99.37.34 10.10.10.5
now in normal i can ping either,when i disconnect interface wan ,i could
not ping either,this is realy i needed.

 why the first configuration can ping 10.10.10.5 but second can't
 may i use first configuration to obtain my goal

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RE: T3 and Ds3

2000-12-27 Thread m. jean stockton

Hope this helps to  clarify things.

Makeeda


"DS1 (Digital Service Level 1)

544Mb/s. Another name for a T1. The specific difference between a DS1 and a
T1 is that the T1 is on copper and comes with a –135-V battery voltage, and
the DS1 is a dry circuit, on copper or fiber-optic lines, with no battery
voltage. Other than that, they are the same. A DS1 has a total bandwidth or
transmission speed of 1.544 Mb/s. The 1.544 Mb/s is divided into 24 64Kb/s
channels. A DS1 (T1) is available in several different packages that offer
different line formats and framing formats. The package that a customer
requests from a phone company depends on what they want to use the DS1 for
and what kind of equipment they have. Telecommunications customers use DS1
circuits as private lines to connect data devices from one geographical
place to another or to transport large amounts of dial tone to the premises.
DS1 circuits are also used to connect directly to a long-distance company
for broadband WAN service. Telecommunications companies also use DS1 (they
are T1 circuits within their own network) circuits to provide more telephone
service where a shortage of twisted pairs is available.

DS3 (Digital Service Level 3)

44.736Mb/s. A DS3 is a circuit that is provided to customers by telephone
companies. It is a transport for 28 T1 circuits, which adds up to 672 DS0
circuits (voice channels). Telecommunications customers use DS3 circuits as
private lines to connect data devices from one geographical place to another
or to transport large amounts of dial tone to the premises. DS3 circuits are
also used to connect directly to a long-distance company for broadband WAN
service. Telecommunications companies also use DS3 circuits to provide more
telephone service where a shortage of twisted pairs is in their cable plant.
Sometimes it is less expensive for a telephone company to install the DS3
electronics in areas, rather than long feeds of large twisted copper-pair
cables."




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Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 8:18 PM
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Subject: Re: T3 and Ds3


Hi

Yep terminology, typically T1, T3 in the telco world imply the capabillity
to carry voice and/or data. DS1, DS3 are typically used to refer to data
only lines.

HTH
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Re: Password Recovery on a 2924XL-A

2000-12-27 Thread D. J. Jones

I think the command sequence should be:

flash_init
load_helper
dir flash:

Is this what you entered?

..dj

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> Take a look at this if you haven't already.looks like init_flash
didn't
> run properly:
>
> http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/473/36.shtml
>
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> > listed on cisco's site doesn't work.  I hold down the mode key, boot up
> > the switch, get the switch: prompt, type in init_flash, then
> > load_helper, then when I do a dir flash  I get this message
> > "unable to stat flash/: permission denied"
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great everybody.

2000-12-27 Thread lijun


hello,today is very cool,keep me waking.yesterday i make a nat
lab.enviroment is here,simple:
 pc-sw-r1(2511)---(64kddn)--r2(router at isp)internet

PC:   10.10.10.1/24
R1 :   LAN  10.10.10.2/24
  WAN 202.99.37.34 /30
R2:   WAN口 202.99.37.33/30


   i want keep tracking the interface on r1 to r2 such as s0.i make a
mirror between r1 wan and lan,and may i ping virtual lan interface to know
exactly interface wan's state
r1 configuration:
lan:ip nat inside
wan:ip nat outside
wan nat is :ip nat source outside static 202.99.37.34 10.10.10.5
when interface wan in normal state i can ping 10.10.10.5 and 202.99.37.34
when i disconnect wan on r1,i can not ping 202.99.37.34 but can ping
10.10.10.5
   i changed my r1 configuration:
 lan:ip nat outside
 wan:ip nat inside
 wan nat is :ip nat source inside static 202.99.37.34 10.10.10.5
now in normal i can ping either,when i disconnect interface wan ,i could
not ping either,this is realy i needed.

 why the first configuration can ping 10.10.10.5 but second can't
 may i use first configuration to obtain my goal

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Re: Quick Survey: Con or Aux?

2000-12-27 Thread Kelly D Griffin

I take it that you meant a modem hooked up to a router.  Correct?

Kelly D Griffin, CCNA
Network Engineer
Kg2 Network Design
http://www.kg2.com


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Subject: Quick Survey: Con or Aux?


> Today I got into a discussion about the appropriate place to connect a
> router for remote management of routers.  If you plug it into a console
> port, you have the ability to reset the router and recover the password.
> However, if you get disconnected, you leave a session open, causing a
> security problem.  Although you can use exec-timeout, it still can make it
> difficult to reconnect to it if you lose a connection.
>
> So, I'm curious...what is everyone's opinion on the best place to plug a
> modem in for remote management?  The console port or the AUX port?
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Re: crossover or straight cable?

2000-12-27 Thread D. J. Jones

Straight cable.

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> I am just wondering... does trunking use crossover or straight cable?
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Re: T3 and Ds3

2000-12-27 Thread hamlet


a T1 is a DS1 over copper.  same with T3/DS3
other than that, no distinction. 

-hamlet

On Wed, 27 Dec 2000, John Hardman wrote:

> Hi
> 
> Yep terminology, typically T1, T3 in the telco world imply the capabillity
> to carry voice and/or data. DS1, DS3 are typically used to refer to data
> only lines.
> 
> HTH
> --
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> 
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Re: EIGRP and snapshot routing?

2000-12-27 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

>Because EIGRP only run when some change occur, it works like a link state
>protocol, but it also have some feature of distance vector protocol.
>
>Regards
>
>Hugo

While some Cisco documentation might suggest the contrary, whether a 
routing protocol uses link state or distance vector has nothing to do 
with it doing periodic or change-only updates. It's simply a 
historical accident that change-only was introduced with link state.

The path determination algorithm has nothing to do with neighbor 
discovery and change processing.

>
>
>>From: Andrew Whitaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Subject: EIGRP and snapshot routing?
>>Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 15:21:27 -0800
>>
>>According to the Netcerts BCRAN book, snapshot routing works best with RIP,
>>IGRP, RIP, RTMP, and RTP.  No mention of EIGRP is given.  Does anyone know
>  >of any reason why EIGRP would NOT be a good candidate for snapshot routing?

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great everybody.

2000-12-27 Thread lijun

hello,today is very cool,keep me waking.yesterday i make a nat
lab.enviroment is here,simple:
 pc-sw-r1(2511)---(64kddn)--r2(router at isp)internet

PC:   10.10.10.1/24
R1 :   LAN  10.10.10.2/24
  WAN 202.99.37.34 /30
R2:   WAN口 202.99.37.33/30


   i want keep tracking the interface on r1 to r2 such as s0.i make a
mirror between r1 wan and lan,and may i ping virtual lan interface to know
exactly interface wan's state
r1 configuration:
lan:ip nat inside
wan:ip nat outside
wan nat is :ip nat source outside static 202.99.37.34 10.10.10.5
when interface wan in normal state i can ping 10.10.10.5 and 202.99.37.34
when i disconnect wan on r1,i can not ping 202.99.37.34 but can ping
10.10.10.5
   i changed my r1 configuration:
 lan:ip nat outside
 wan:ip nat inside
 wan nat is :ip nat source inside static 202.99.37.34 10.10.10.5
now in normal i can ping either,when i disconnect interface wan ,i could
not ping either,this is realy i needed.

 why the first configuration can ping 10.10.10.5 but second can't
 may i use first configuration to obtain my goal

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Re: "Token Ring in home lab" questions

2000-12-27 Thread John Hardman

Hi

There are two types of TR MAU (hubs) out there. One has the old block style
connector, the other has a RJ-45 style port. Hopefully you have the later,
if not they are real cheap on ebay.

Anyway, (assuming the RJ-45 style) a straight regular old ethernet cable
between the PC NIC and the hub and between the media filter and the hub.
Nothing special here, a straight cable is a straight cable rather it uses
the same pairs to communicate or not.

HTH
--
John Hardman CCNP MCSE+I


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> Dug through the archives and found very little on setting up Token Ring in
a home lab. I'm still confused. How is this done? Any good sites that I can
go to find out this information?
>
> Among other equipment, I've got an SMC MAU, a Token Ring NIC installed in
a PC, DB-9 to RJ45 media filter, and a 2504. What type of cable do I need
between the media filter on the router and the MAU? I know it's not a
standard Cat 5 cable because Token Ring uses different pins than Ethernet.
What about the cable between the PC and the MAU? The NIC card can handle
either RJ-45 or DB-9.
>
> On the MAU, there are two ports that are labeled RO and RI with small push
button switches next to them to enable or disable "wrap". What are these
for?
>
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>
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Re: T3 and Ds3

2000-12-27 Thread John Hardman

Hi

Yep terminology, typically T1, T3 in the telco world imply the capabillity
to carry voice and/or data. DS1, DS3 are typically used to refer to data
only lines.

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ISDN Dialer Watch / IP OSPF Demand Circuit

2000-12-27 Thread Evan You

Hi all,

I am in the process of configuration a bunch of routers to do ISDN dial
backup.
Has any body worked with Dialer Watch on a router running OSPF? I know that
some Cisco document says that Dialer Watch is only supported in EIGRP and
IGRP. But others say any Dynamic routing protocols.
Also, has any one used the IP OSPF Demand Circuit? This option is suppose to
control the types of LSAs that are sent across the dial line. It reduces the
amount of Access-list that is needed to monitor the traffic.
Basically, I am using 4 BRIs in a Dialer Interface with ip unnumbered
Loopback0. Then, I will be using Dialer Watch to trigger the ISDN calls and
run OSPF Demand Circuit to control packed over the dial link. Defaulting
back to the serial link will be done based on OSPF cost statement once the
link comes back. Does this sound like it's feasible or is it too much to
handle?
Any help will be greatly appreciated!
Evan You - CCNA / Soon to be CCNP

interface BRI1/0
description connected into a rotary group
no ip address
encapsulation ppp
dialer rotary-group 0
isdn switch-type basic-net3
isdn T310 1
no fair-queue
no cdp enable
!
interface BRI1/1
no ip address
encapsulation ppp
dialer rotary-group 0
isdn switch-type basic-net3
isdn T310 1
no fair-queue
no cdp enable
!
interface BRI1/2
no ip address
encapsulation ppp
dialer rotary-group 0
isdn switch-type basic-net3
isdn T310 1
no fair-queue
no cdp enable
!
interface BRI1/3
no ip address
encapsulation ppp
dialer rotary-group 0
isdn switch-type basic-net3
isdn T310 1
no fair-queue
no cdp enable
!
interface Dialer0
description Dialer group controlling the BRIs
ip unnumbered Loopback0
encapsulation ppp
ip ospf cost 1500
ip ospf demand-circuit
dialer in-band
dialer idle-timeout 500
dialer map ip 53.29.248.2 name hostname broadcast XX
dialer load-threshold 30 either
dialer watch-group 1
no fair-queue
no cdp enable
ppp authentication chap
ppp multilink
hold-queue 100 in
!
dialer watch-list 1 ip 10.10.10.10 255.255.255.252
dialer watch-list 1 ip 10.1.2.12 255.255.255.252
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EIGRP problem

2000-12-27 Thread Jim Bond

Hello,

We have 4000 router and 5200 router at central office,
2500 routers and 3640 routers at branch office. 4000
and 2500s are connected with frame relay, 5200 and
3640s are connected with ISDN backup. Eigrp is the
only protocol. We have a default route from 4000 and
it got advertised on 2500s and 3640s as AD /170. We
also configure a default route on 3640s with AD /200
so in case frame is down, /200 default route will take
over and then can bring up ISDN.

The problem is sometimes when frame is ok, 3640 router
default route changes to AD /200 and hence brings up
ISDN backup (3640 also serves as RAS server). When I
do "clear ip route", the AD /170 default route will
come back again, then some days later, it'll get
replaced by the AD /200 one.

We use the same IOS on all routers but this only
happened on some branch offices, not all of them. Any
idea what wrong it is?

Thanks in advance.


Jim

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crossover or straight cable?

2000-12-27 Thread sean

Hi,

I am just wondering... does trunking use crossover or straight cable?

Thanks


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Re: problems configuring a 5500 chasis please help

2000-12-27 Thread fmxiao

We've always put the RSM in Slot 4...


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> me to have it in slot 12.  Please let me know if this is the case, our
5500
> uses slot 2 for a back up sup III module and slot 12 for the RSM with Vip
> module.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Mark
>
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> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 6:59 PM
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> Subject: Re: problems configuring a 5500 chasis please help
>
>
> I tried plugging in an active switch into  vlan 100 and it still was
saying
> that the vlan was not active or at least it appeared that way and i
couldn't
> ping it.
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> > Try plugging in a client machine into each of your vlans.  I had this
> > problem with a 6509 and once the client link state came up, the
interface
> > came up.
> >
> >
> > ""viathin"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > > I'm having trouble configuring one router was wondering if you could
> help
> > >
> > > We are configuring a 5500 Chassis with:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1) WS X5530 Supervisor Engine (Slot 1)
> > > > > 2) WS X5302 Route Switch Module (Slot 2)
> > > > > 3) WS 5224 Switch ports (24 copper ports)
> > > > >
> > > > > A)
> > > > > We have defined:
> > > > > VLAN 100 on 3/1-4
> > > > > VLAN 200 on 3/5-8
> > > > > VLAN 300 on 3/9-12
> > > > > VLAN 500 on 3/21-24
> > > > > B)
> > > > > We have created the interfaces on the RSM:
> > > > > Config Terminal:
> > > > > 1) Interface vlan 100
> > > > > ip address 192.170.1.1 255.255.255.0
> > > > > 2) Interface vlan 200
> > > > > ip address 192.170.2.1 255.255.255.0
> > > > > 3) Interface vlan 300
> > > > > ip address 192.170.3.1 255.255.255.0
> > > > > 5) Interface vlan 500
> > > > > ip address 192.170.5.1 255.255.255.0
> > > > >
> > > > > Performed a no shutdown command on all interfaces.
> > > > >
> > > > > C)
> > > > > We implemented "eigrp 1"  as the routing protocol using:
> > > > > Interface vlan 100
> > > > > router eigrp 1
> > > > > network 192.170.1.0
> > > > > network 192.170.2.0
> > > > > network 192.170.3.0
> > > > > network 192.170.5.0
> > > > > The above was repeated for all vlans (100,200,300,500)
> > > > > D)
> > > > > 1) Can not ping any vlan interfaces.
> > > > > 2) Performed a "Show Interface" and it shows all interfaces are
> down.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for looking into this and we appreciate any insight on this
> > > > > problem.
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RE: So what SHOULD a CCIE know?

2000-12-27 Thread Joseph Ezerski

It is obvious that with the explosion of the Internet that networks and
networking, in general, are moving to a more unified approach.  We are
seeing legacy protocols that could not stand the test of time give way and
die in the face of TCP/IP.  All of this is good news for CCIE's among
others.  The more things standardize on tried and true open standards, the
better off our jobs will be, not to mention the experience of the customers
we service.  Imagine a world with no Appletalk, IPX, SNA, LAT, etc.  Imagine
that there are a few base protocols like TCP/IP working in tandem with
Routing Protocols like OSPF and BGP.  I beleive that when that day arrives,
the CCIE should be a true expert in the pared down world wide standards that
emerge as the dominant players.  The less needless complexity that we need
to grapple with, the better we can become and hone our skills to the expert
level.  

Just my 2 cents

Joseph

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To: Cisco Mail List
Subject: So what SHOULD a CCIE know?


We've all seen a number of comments about the CCIE written and the CCIE Lab,
regarding content. Most of those comments have been negative.

So, what SHOULD be tested? What SHOULD a CCIE know?

Anyone?

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Quick Survey: Con or Aux?

2000-12-27 Thread Andrew Whitaker

Today I got into a discussion about the appropriate place to connect a
router for remote management of routers.  If you plug it into a console
port, you have the ability to reset the router and recover the password.
However, if you get disconnected, you leave a session open, causing a
security problem.  Although you can use exec-timeout, it still can make it
difficult to reconnect to it if you lose a connection.  

So, I'm curious...what is everyone's opinion on the best place to plug a
modem in for remote management?  The console port or the AUX port?

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Re: T3 and Ds3

2000-12-27 Thread Guy Tal

Well, most people use these terms interchangeably, but to be technical about
it, DS framing is used for T carriers. So your T3 uses DS3 framing.


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Subject: T3 and Ds3


> Is there a difference in a T3 and DS3, or is this just termilogy?
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"Token Ring in home lab" questions

2000-12-27 Thread Lori S Carter

Dug through the archives and found very little on setting up Token Ring in a home lab. 
I'm still confused. How is this done? Any good sites that I can go to find out this 
information? 

Among other equipment, I've got an SMC MAU, a Token Ring NIC installed in a PC, DB-9 
to RJ45 media filter, and a 2504. What type of cable do I need between the media 
filter on the router and the MAU? I know it's not a standard Cat 5 cable because Token 
Ring uses different pins than Ethernet. What about the cable between the PC and the 
MAU? The NIC card can handle either RJ-45 or DB-9.

On the MAU, there are two ports that are labeled RO and RI with small push button 
switches next to them to enable or disable "wrap". What are these for?

Any information would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Lori




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Re: EIGRP and snapshot routing?

2000-12-27 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

>According to the Netcerts BCRAN book, snapshot routing works best with RIP,
>IGRP, RIP, RTMP, and RTP.  No mention of EIGRP is given.  Does anyone know
>of any reason why EIGRP would NOT be a good candidate for snapshot routing?
>
>

Think about the way all of the protocols above, except EIGRP, send 
updates and monitor whether their neighbors are up or down.

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RE: Confused (was Re: is this statement true ??)

2000-12-27 Thread John lay

Yes guys, okay it makes sense.
But this means if you have a half duplex connection between the host and the
switch , the contention will be between the host from one side and on the
other side is  what ever data goining to the direction of the switch.
sense ?


On Tue, 26 Dec 2000 19:26:56 -0500, Bowen, Shawn wrote:

>  Yup, makes sense.  I can only speak for 3Com on this one, but I believe
>  Cisco implements similar features.  On a 3Com Corebuilder (as well as
their
>  Workgroup Switches) they use fake collisions as a flow control mechanism.
>  In other words if there was contention at the server or switch and they
>  couldn't handle the load then a collision (a JAM) will be sent.  Now,
that
>  said after we all just agreed that collisions can not happen on a full
>  duplex Ethernet segment:)  If you notice in Cisco texts that Collision
>  Detection is disabled on full duplex links, this is not true.  Collision
>  detection is still there, at least on a 5000 and can be simulated by
loading
>  up a server at 10MB FD with a few 100MB FD clients on the other end of
the
>  Cat, you will see this in action.  3Com does the same thing, I thought
this
>  was kinda interesting.
>  
>  Shawn
>  
>  
>  -Original Message-
>  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>  Priscilla Oppenheimer
>  Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2000 2:06 PM
>  To: Andy Walden; John lay
>  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Subject: Re: Confused (was Re: is this statement true ??)
>  
>  I think what John is getting at is that there is still contention. In his
>  example with two clients trying to reach one server, there's contention
at
>  the switch, and at the server possibly. There's no contention on the
medium
>  itself. There's only one device trying to send at any one time. The
switch
>  has its transmit pair and the server has its own transmit pair. If the
>  switch has two frames to send to the server, the backup happens at the
>  switch. Does that make sense?
>  
>  Priscilla
>  
>  At 08:33 AM 12/26/00, Andy Walden wrote:
>  
>  >This is correct. You don't use full duplex if you are competing for
>  >bandwidth, ie, plugged into a hub. But if you are plugged into a switch,
>  >there is only one bandwidth domain between the device and switch and
>  >with nothing competing for the bandwidth on that link so you can go full
>  >duplex.
>  >
>  >andy
>  >
>  >On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, John lay wrote:
>  >
>  > > Priscilla, everybody,
>  > >
>  > > I am confused. Ethernet and FastEthernet uses the CSMA/CD as a
channel
>  > > allocation techinque in a shared media access envoiroment.
>  > > Here it comes the confusion, when you are saying that the Full-duplex
>  does
>  > > not support CSMA/CD because the transmit and receive are on different
>  > wires.
>  > > This implies that in this case there is no shared media, how come if
>  you
>  > > have two clients competing to talk to the  same server
>  simultaneously!!
>  > >
>  > > Thanx
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > On Mon, 25 Dec 2000 16:36:11 -0800, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
>  > >
>  > > >  It's true for Ethernet because Ethernet's CSMA/CD media access
>  control
>  > > >  method has strict timing requirements, which result in strict
length
>  > > >  restrictions. Half-duplex uses CSMA/CD. Full-duplex does not.
>  > > >
>  > > >  I wouldn't say it's true in general, however.
>  > > >
>  > > >  Priscilla
>  > > >
>  > > >  At 05:32 PM 12/25/00, Li Song wrote:
>  > > >  >"full-duplex can be used over longer distance than
>  > > >  >half-duplex" ??
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Re: EIGRP and snapshot routing?

2000-12-27 Thread Hugo _


Because EIGRP only run when some change occur, it works like a link state 
protocol, but it also have some feature of distance vector protocol.

Regards

Hugo


>From: Andrew Whitaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: EIGRP and snapshot routing?
>Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 15:21:27 -0800
>
>According to the Netcerts BCRAN book, snapshot routing works best with RIP,
>IGRP, RIP, RTMP, and RTP.  No mention of EIGRP is given.  Does anyone know
>of any reason why EIGRP would NOT be a good candidate for snapshot routing?
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Re: EIGRP and snapshot routing?

2000-12-27 Thread Roger Dellaca

cause it no work.  Darn neighbor relationships

>>> Andrew Whitaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 12/27 3:21 PM >>>
According to the Netcerts BCRAN book, snapshot routing works best with RIP,
IGRP, RIP, RTMP, and RTP.  No mention of EIGRP is given.  Does anyone know
of any reason why EIGRP would NOT be a good candidate for snapshot routing?


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EIGRP and snapshot routing?

2000-12-27 Thread Andrew Whitaker

According to the Netcerts BCRAN book, snapshot routing works best with RIP,
IGRP, RIP, RTMP, and RTP.  No mention of EIGRP is given.  Does anyone know
of any reason why EIGRP would NOT be a good candidate for snapshot routing?


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ISDN Dialer Watch / OSPF Demand Circuit

2000-12-27 Thread Evan You

Hi all,

I am in the process of configuration a bunch of routers to do ISDN dial
backup.
Has any body worked with Dialer Watch on a router running OSPF? I know that
some Cisco document says that Dialer Watch is only supported in EIGRP and
IGRP. But others say any Dynamic routing protocols.

Also, has any one used the IP OSPF Demand Circuit? This option is suppose to
control the types of LSAs that are sent across the dial line. It reduces the
amount of Access-list that is needed to monitor the traffic.

Basically, I am using 4 BRIs in a Dialer Interface with ip unnumbered
Loopback0. Then, I will be using Dialer Watch to trigger the ISDN calls and
run OSPF Demand Circuit to control packed over the dial link. Defaulting
back to the serial link will be done based on OSPF cost statement once the
link comes back. Does this sound like it's feasible or is it too much to
handle?

Any help will be greatly appreciated!

Evan You - CCNA / Soon to be CCNP


 interface BRI1/0
 description connected into a rotary group
 no ip address
 encapsulation ppp
 dialer rotary-group 0
 isdn switch-type basic-net3
 isdn T310 1
 no fair-queue
 no cdp enable
!
interface BRI1/1
 no ip address
 encapsulation ppp
 dialer rotary-group 0
 isdn switch-type basic-net3
 isdn T310 1
 no fair-queue
 no cdp enable
!
interface BRI1/2
 no ip address
 encapsulation ppp
 dialer rotary-group 0
 isdn switch-type basic-net3
 isdn T310 1
 no fair-queue
 no cdp enable
!
interface BRI1/3
 no ip address
 encapsulation ppp
 dialer rotary-group 0
 isdn switch-type basic-net3
 isdn T310 1
 no fair-queue
 no cdp enable
!
interface Dialer0
 description Dialer group controlling the BRIs
 ip unnumbered Loopback0
 encapsulation ppp
 ip ospf cost 1500
 ip ospf demand-circuit
 dialer in-band
 dialer idle-timeout 500
 dialer map ip 53.29.248.2 name hostname broadcast XX
 dialer load-threshold 30 either
 dialer watch-group 1
 no fair-queue
 no cdp enable
 ppp authentication chap
 ppp multilink
 hold-queue 100 in
!
dialer watch-list 1 ip 10.10.10.10 255.255.255.252
dialer watch-list 1 ip 10.1.2.12 255.255.255.252

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Re: T3 and Ds3

2000-12-27 Thread Jason Tran

Just terminology...no difference.

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T3 and Ds3

2000-12-27 Thread nsamuel

Is there a difference in a T3 and DS3, or is this just termilogy?

Nigel 

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RE: RIP Version 2 Authentication

2000-12-27 Thread Barnhill, Don

Pierre-Alex,

Make sure you have the following command under the interface config:

ip rip authentication mode {text | md5}

Here is the link for rip as well. (watch the line wrap)
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios120/12cgcr/np1_c
/1cprt1/1crip.htm


Don


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Subject: RIP Version 2 Authentication


I have 2 routers Router A and Router B. Router A and B both run RIP Version
2
I want Router A to require authentication from Router B before Router A can
accept Router B updates.

On Router A I have added the following:

***configuration mode**

key chain Tewa
 key 1
  key-string abcdefg

***interface mode**

ip rip authentication key-chain Teway

Putting the same configuration I did on Router A in Router B does not work.
I get the following message using debug ip rip: RIP: ignored v2 packet from
1.0.0.11 (invalid authentication. Do you know which commands I should use
for Router B?

Thank You

Pierre-Alex


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Re: good salary in london

2000-12-27 Thread Eric Thompson

I missed the first part of this thread so excuse me if I am repeating an offer.

I am a US citizen living inthe UK. I current live in Harrogate (Northern Yorkshire 
near Leeds / York) and once living in Uxbridge and St Albans (Both near London). If I 
can offer any assistance please let me know.

Eric



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Subject: Re: good salary in london




netlinesys wrote:
> 
> It depends how big is the house ,  and location also
> 

Take a look at http://www.net-lettings.co.uk/ for average rents etc. by
location in London and links to estate agents.

TTFN
Lauren

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RE: 7505 Reboots randomly Please HELP

2000-12-27 Thread MCDONALD, ROMAN (SBCSI)

Paul,  it is people like you that make this list what it is.
I'm sure your post was extremely helpful to many people (even
those not involved in this thread).  Kudos to you for making
me think about my own troubleshooting methodologies and how often
I skip the obvious steps.

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Subject: Re: 7505 Reboots randomly Please HELP


VERBOSITY BIT IS SET.  DISREGARD THIS POST IF IT DOES NOT APPLY 
TO YOU.

A couple of thoughts on this issue.  First item is that I am 
coming in late on this post, so some of my points may already 
have been covered.  Here goes.

1.  The first thing I would do is break things down to their 
simplest level.  Remove *all* of your line cards, except for 
your RSP card.  You must ensure that the RSP is installed and 
fully seated on the top slot as you are looking at the business 
end of the router. Once you have done that, then attempt to 
boot your router.

2.  As far as booting your router is concerned, I was a little 
perplexed at your statement in your config below.  It indicated 
that "System image file is "slot0:image.new"  What exactly 
is "image.new"?  You need to find the original IOS that you 
downloaded or bought with this router and attempt to boot from 
that image.  Leave the image name intact, i.e. don't change the 
image name.  For all I know (or can tell), the "image.new" 
could be for a Cisco 7000 RSP or RP, which will not work for 
your box.

3.  Once it boots, execute the following commands:

sh environment all  - It should read that "All Environmental 
Measurements are within specifications".  If it does not, your 
box has a problem with cooling or power.  If it is cooling out 
of tolerance, see if the blowers are running. All six fans must 
be operational in the fan tray assembly.  The router will 
monitor for a bad fan (or one that is going bad).  If it is bad 
or ready to fail, you will see this at the console:  %ENVM-2-
FAN: Fan array has failed, shutdown in 2 minutes.  Guess what 
happens next :-) If electrical is out of whack, you may need a 
new power supply.

sh boot - The only thing that should be present here is your 
config register settings.  All other fields should be blank. If 
not, then what are they set to, and are the settings 
appropriate?

sh diagbus - Since you already removed your cards (except for 
the one I mentioned, you should only have one slot reported. 
What you are looking for is that the RSP is seen, the serial 
number and part number are properly reported, and that the 
microcode values match those found on "show microcode".  Most 
importantly, it should indicate in the flags field that the 
item is a 7500 board.  If it is a 7000 board, you have the 
wrong RP.

sh flash - Do you have a valid flash image for this router and 
is it corrupted?  See my previous comment on image names.

sh proc cpu - Look at the very first line of the output.  Does 
it read like my 7000 router:

CPU utilization for five seconds: 2%/2%; one minute: 4%; five 
minutes: 4% 

If you have very high values here, something is tasking your 
CPU.  You need to find out what that might be.  Are you sure 
that you have sufficient RAM for your box?  The minimum for an 
RSP is 32MB.  64MB is better and 128MB will have it running 
fine.  If you have only 16MB, it's a wonder it will boot.

sh proc mem - look for the first line of output.  How much free 
memory do you have?  If this value is in the KB range instead 
of the MB range, that may be part of your problem, namely you 
may be starving the router for RAM.

sh reload - This output should read exactly as follows:

No reload is scheduled.

If it reads anything other than what is listed above, find out 
why.

Once (and if) the router runs normally with only the RSP 
installed, then install your line cards one at a time.  Cold 
reboot the router with each new line card and once it settles 
down, retype each of these commands and note what changes:

sh environment all
sh diagbus
sh proc mem
sh proc cpu

You should not see a major change in either of the "show proc 
cpu" or "sh proc mem" commands.  The "show environ all" command 
should also be within tolerance and "sh diagbus" should pick up 
each of the new line cards as the box gets rebooted.  
Additionally, you may also want to check "show ver" to ensure 
that all newly added line cards/modules are properly reported 
there as well.  When you install your VIP2, install it first 
without any of the modules installed.  If you put the FastE 
controller on and you notice that the router barfs on it, that 
may be an indicator that the VIP2 is good, but the FastE 
controller is bad.

One thing I failed to mention early on is that you need to have 
all of your logging ported over to a syslog server and not your 
console.  In the event that it is ready to do a commanded boot, 
you will have a log that this occurred.  Also, make

Re: CID & Boson

2000-12-27 Thread Dennis

I bought and used all three but the one that seemed to be most applicable to
helping me was CID group number three which looked like they took the best
of all the practice test groups and put it into one group.

The other thing that is always helpful is to make sure you head off to CCO
and download the current test objectives to be sure you don't waste any time
studying insignificant stuff.

-dennis


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> What is the best Boson test for CID ? Any comments about it?
>
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Re: Password Recovery on a 2924XL-A

2000-12-27 Thread C. Warren

The command is actually:  flash_init

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> Take a look at this if you haven't already.looks like init_flash
didn't
> run properly:
>
> http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/473/36.shtml
>
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> > I just bought a 2924XL-A off ebay and the password recovery method
> > listed on cisco's site doesn't work.  I hold down the mode key, boot up
> > the switch, get the switch: prompt, type in init_flash, then
> > load_helper, then when I do a dir flash  I get this message
> > "unable to stat flash/: permission denied"
> >
> > Any ideas?
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Re: So what SHOULD a CCIE know?

2000-12-27 Thread Tony van Ree

Hi,

I still seem to strike the odd AppleTalk network,  certainly a lot of IPX.  I am 
usually called on when the client IT people are confused.  Often the equipment is not 
Cisco.

I guess we each have a different need but it is important that things such as the CCIE 
have a high level of regard in the IT world.  Therefore I would think a CCIE needs to 
know a lot about a lot.  The CCIE needs to be an "expert" on things "internetworking". 
 This to me means if there is something the CCIE does not know he needs to be able to 
quickly identify what is not known and know who to talk to or where to get the info.

As an "expert" the CCIE should then be able to share the acquired knowledge without 
fear of his or her position.

Teunis
Hobart, Tasmania
Australia



On Wednesday, December 27, 2000 at 01:47:38 PM, John Hardman wrote:

> Humm... interesting question.
> 
> >From one point of view...
> 
> What should be tested (or not tested):
> 
> In over 10 years of IT work I have only ran across AppleTalk once, so drop
> AppleTalk (which they are doing).
> 
> In the same time frame I have only ran across one IPX network that wasn't
> either in the process of being converted to 100BaseT or was only being used
> in the DC to connect to a Novell server that was a file server which had
> it's drives mapped to NT drives. So IPX should take a big back seat to IP.
> 
> TR, well personally I like it, but again I have only seen one network with
> TR that wasn't planned to be changed to 100BaseT. Come to think of it, they
> announced the upgrade a couple of months after I left there. So TR should
> also be in the back seat.
> 
> Bridging, humm... well in some respects it is rarely used in the networks I
> have seen, mostly to get to SNA servers. But then again you had better know
> your IRB pretty well with all of the L3 switching that companies are being
> sold these days.
> 
> L3 switching, better know that pretty well. There are just too many
> companies being sold L3 that it had better take a bigger role in the lab.
> 
> The R/S written and lab should take on more of the service provider element.
> I am not saying that the new SP track should be rolled into the RS track.
> But with outsourcing and the Internet with VPN, dial and the like taking a
> bigger and bigger role in most companies, better know your ATM, dial, VPN,
> BGP, etc, etc. The same can be said for security.
> 
> Not having taken the lab, I can not really say as to how IPX, TR, or
> bridging is tested. It could be that it is tested as a primary thing and not
> as a secondary, e.g. "well looks like we are going to have to deal with that
> TR segment over rather we want to or not". The same could be said for ATM,
> maybe it should be a primary and not a secondary.
> 
> Well there is $0.02 from one point of view, HTH.
> --
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> 
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> > We've all seen a number of comments about the CCIE written and the CCIE
> Lab,
> > regarding content. Most of those comments have been negative.
> >
> > So, what SHOULD be tested? What SHOULD a CCIE know?
> >
> > Anyone?
> >
> > Chuck
> > --
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CID & Boson

2000-12-27 Thread Raquel

Hi, 

What is the best Boson test for CID ? Any comments about it?

Thanks!!

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Re: Password Recovery on a 2924XL-A

2000-12-27 Thread C. Warren

Take a look at this if you haven't already.looks like init_flash didn't
run properly:

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/473/36.shtml

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> I just bought a 2924XL-A off ebay and the password recovery method
> listed on cisco's site doesn't work.  I hold down the mode key, boot up
> the switch, get the switch: prompt, type in init_flash, then
> load_helper, then when I do a dir flash  I get this message
> "unable to stat flash/: permission denied"
>
> Any ideas?
> --
> Kevin Hunt
> CCNA, MCSE, MCT
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Re: CID test vs. CCIE written

2000-12-27 Thread Dennis

Thanks for the good feedback.  The Rossi (ccprep) token ring paper looks
like the best one to help prepare for the test.  I knew about it but had
forgotten.  (yikes, already forgetting stuff.)  Just talked to Lou last week
and they just started a CCIE lab bootcamp down in Tampa.  Pre-req for taking
the class is passing the written.

I plan on passing the written by end of January then heading down to Tampa
hopefully while it is still cold here in New England..

Thanks again for the quik and helpful replies.
-dennis
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> Just took and passed the CID test.  I have heard that this test is similar
> in scope to the CCIE R/S qualification test.
>
> Anybody have any feedback on that statement?
>
> Also, does anyone know if there are command line type ins on the CCIE
> written?
>
> And can anyone recommend a good 'one-pager' on RIF's, Token Ring,
bridging,
> etc??
>
> Thanks,
> Dennis
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Re: 7505 Reboots randomly Please HELP

2000-12-27 Thread Paul Werner

VERBOSITY BIT IS SET.  DISREGARD THIS POST IF IT DOES NOT APPLY 
TO YOU.

A couple of thoughts on this issue.  First item is that I am 
coming in late on this post, so some of my points may already 
have been covered.  Here goes.

1.  The first thing I would do is break things down to their 
simplest level.  Remove *all* of your line cards, except for 
your RSP card.  You must ensure that the RSP is installed and 
fully seated on the top slot as you are looking at the business 
end of the router. Once you have done that, then attempt to 
boot your router.

2.  As far as booting your router is concerned, I was a little 
perplexed at your statement in your config below.  It indicated 
that "System image file is "slot0:image.new"  What exactly 
is "image.new"?  You need to find the original IOS that you 
downloaded or bought with this router and attempt to boot from 
that image.  Leave the image name intact, i.e. don't change the 
image name.  For all I know (or can tell), the "image.new" 
could be for a Cisco 7000 RSP or RP, which will not work for 
your box.

3.  Once it boots, execute the following commands:

sh environment all  - It should read that "All Environmental 
Measurements are within specifications".  If it does not, your 
box has a problem with cooling or power.  If it is cooling out 
of tolerance, see if the blowers are running. All six fans must 
be operational in the fan tray assembly.  The router will 
monitor for a bad fan (or one that is going bad).  If it is bad 
or ready to fail, you will see this at the console:  %ENVM-2-
FAN: Fan array has failed, shutdown in 2 minutes.  Guess what 
happens next :-) If electrical is out of whack, you may need a 
new power supply.

sh boot - The only thing that should be present here is your 
config register settings.  All other fields should be blank. If 
not, then what are they set to, and are the settings 
appropriate?

sh diagbus - Since you already removed your cards (except for 
the one I mentioned, you should only have one slot reported. 
What you are looking for is that the RSP is seen, the serial 
number and part number are properly reported, and that the 
microcode values match those found on "show microcode".  Most 
importantly, it should indicate in the flags field that the 
item is a 7500 board.  If it is a 7000 board, you have the 
wrong RP.

sh flash - Do you have a valid flash image for this router and 
is it corrupted?  See my previous comment on image names.

sh proc cpu - Look at the very first line of the output.  Does 
it read like my 7000 router:

CPU utilization for five seconds: 2%/2%; one minute: 4%; five 
minutes: 4% 

If you have very high values here, something is tasking your 
CPU.  You need to find out what that might be.  Are you sure 
that you have sufficient RAM for your box?  The minimum for an 
RSP is 32MB.  64MB is better and 128MB will have it running 
fine.  If you have only 16MB, it's a wonder it will boot.

sh proc mem - look for the first line of output.  How much free 
memory do you have?  If this value is in the KB range instead 
of the MB range, that may be part of your problem, namely you 
may be starving the router for RAM.

sh reload - This output should read exactly as follows:

No reload is scheduled.

If it reads anything other than what is listed above, find out 
why.

Once (and if) the router runs normally with only the RSP 
installed, then install your line cards one at a time.  Cold 
reboot the router with each new line card and once it settles 
down, retype each of these commands and note what changes:

sh environment all
sh diagbus
sh proc mem
sh proc cpu

You should not see a major change in either of the "show proc 
cpu" or "sh proc mem" commands.  The "show environ all" command 
should also be within tolerance and "sh diagbus" should pick up 
each of the new line cards as the box gets rebooted.  
Additionally, you may also want to check "show ver" to ensure 
that all newly added line cards/modules are properly reported 
there as well.  When you install your VIP2, install it first 
without any of the modules installed.  If you put the FastE 
controller on and you notice that the router barfs on it, that 
may be an indicator that the VIP2 is good, but the FastE 
controller is bad.

One thing I failed to mention early on is that you need to have 
all of your logging ported over to a syslog server and not your 
console.  In the event that it is ready to do a commanded boot, 
you will have a log that this occurred.  Also, make sure you 
turn on the following command:

service timestamps log datetime localtime

Additionally, it *may* be useful to configure the router for 
sending a core dump.  Here are the following commands:

exception protocol tftp
  
exception core-file Crash (Crash is the name assigned to the 
file)
 
exception dump x.x.x.x  (x.x.x.x) is the TFTP server IP address
 
exception memory min 100  (will start a core dump when 
memory is set to drop below 1MB) 
 
Keep in mind, a cor

Re: Cisco Certification Digest V2 #905

2000-12-27 Thread Daniel Keller

I will be on vacation until January 8 and out of pager and cell phone range.  For all 
network related issues please contact our Network Operations Center at 800-610-4684.

Dan Keller

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RIP Version 2 Authentication

2000-12-27 Thread Pierre-Alex GUANEL

I have 2 routers Router A and Router B. Router A and B both run RIP Version 2
I want Router A to require authentication from Router B before Router A can accept 
Router B updates.

On Router A I have added the following:

***configuration mode**

key chain Tewa
 key 1
  key-string abcdefg

***interface mode**

ip rip authentication key-chain Teway

Putting the same configuration I did on Router A in Router B does not work. I get the 
following message using debug ip rip: RIP: ignored v2 packet from 1.0.0.11 (invalid 
authentication. Do you know which commands I should use for Router B?

Thank You

Pierre-Alex


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RE: Frame Relay - Lessons Learned...

2000-12-27 Thread Stull, Cory

They might be referring to route-map where you use the route-map to set the
next hop on each remote site router to the central site router.  So that in
order for one remote router to talk to another remote router the route-map
tells the router it needs to communicate through the central router... this
would be similar to using a frame-relay map ip statment at the remote sites
but would be an alternative.  I have seen this done in a practice lab...

Good studying
Cory

-Original Message-
From: Ronnie Royston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 10:20 AM
To: 'Nigel Taylor'; CCIE_Lab Group Study; Cisco Group Study
Cc: Bryant Andrews
Subject: RE: Frame Relay - Lessons Learned...


Can someone please clarify something.  When you are asked to set up frame
and not use frame mapping, I was thinking to let inverse arp do it for you
on that particular router if you need that router to be multipoint,
otherwise point-to-point is the answer.  Is that what they are looking for?
-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, December 25, 2000 9:21 AM
To: CCIE_Lab Group Study; Cisco Group Study
Cc: Bryant Andrews
Subject: Frame Relay - Lessons Learned...


Well,   =20
I hope buy now everyone has opened all their gifts and already =
know what it is they want for christmas next year.
In joy of the spirit I decided to work on some areas which I believe as =
mentioned by numerous member on list is of crucial importance in CCIE =
lab.  In this spirit I've learned another lesson, which goes as =
follows...

In this lab scenario the goal was to connect 3 routers R1, R2, and R3 in =
the typical HUB and Spoke topology.  In a partial=20
mesh all routers should be able to ping each other with out the use of =
the "frame-relay map" command with only sub-interfaces allowed in the =
HUB device.

Now, this is reasonably easy as this leaves 2 options to complete the =
required task. Configurations as follows=20
could get this done. The use of  various sub-interfaces with the =
"frame-relay interface-dlci" command depending=20
on other lab specific requirements(i.e multiple nets/subnets) or the use =
of a multi-point sub-interface to support both=20
spoke(s) over one network address assignment.  =20

I used 2 sub- interfaces to specify 2 networks.  What I observed was, =
although I had a neighbor adjacency between
 both spokes and the HUB(R1), the spokes was not learning the other =
network through OSPF.  I could ping the=20
HUB(R1) from both spokes, but could not ping through to R3(spoke) and =
vise-versa.  I know.. no ospf what do you expect..! =20
Another observation was from the Spoke devices R2 and R3 the HUB(R1) =
showed up as a BDR in full state.=20
 As well from the HUB the both spokes(R2,R3) showed up as adjacent =
neighbors in FULL state. =20

Closer investigation showed that from the HUB both sub-interfaces were =
using ospf network type point-to -point, however=20
from the  spokes(R2,R3) being physical interfaces and using the default =
of broadcast.  Well, this really doesn't stand
 as both of these network types use a 10 sec Hello timer and a 40 sec =
Dead timer.. right!

Wrong, apparently although the ospf network types hello/dead values =
matched this did not allow ospf to propagate the other networks to the =
spokes.  What solved this was either changing the spokes ospf network =
type to p-t-p as to match the HUB, or=20
changing the HUB links to broadcast.  When this was done the spokes both =
now knew of the other net work. =20

In doing some quick research Calsow's book makes mention of setting all =
interfaces to point-to-multipoint.  He also=20
mentions the problems faced with ospf network type mis-matches.  If one =
is not careful this could present a few problems and being not overly =
confident in my frame-relay skill-set would likely look to something in =
that part of the config for the answer to
my problem

Thoughts anyone...or is this common knowledge?

Nigel.

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RE: Confused (was Re: is this statement true ??)

2000-12-27 Thread Tony van Ree

Hi,

The most common reasons I have found for "late collisions" on a half duplex service 
lately has been the remote end is configured for full duplex.  The full duplex sends 
well after the half duplex is sending.  

The most common reason for collisions on a full duplex is the other end is running 
half duplex.

The condition jumps all over the place when running Autonegotiate.  Some services run 
fine on auto other do not.  Some will only run successfully on auto.  So you must 
discover which does what by changing the setup on a suspect service,  clearing the 
counters, testing and rechecking the counters.

Be aware also that some servers appear to be running full duplex but are not.  Others 
such as Sun boxes can (must) be forced and this must be saved or else the will revert 
back.

There is a lot to this stuff.

Teunis
Hobart, Tasmania
Australia


On Wednesday, December 27, 2000 at 01:23:35 AM, Bowen. Shawn wrote:

> I might also add I'm a southern fella myself.  But I must argue that you
> "can" see collisions and late collisions on a full duplex link.  Before I
> get thrashed, I understand FULLY that full duplex is TX to RX so it "should"
> be impossible but I was just answering for a fellow earlier about this.  On
> 10MB links the Collision mechanism and it's corresponding JAM signal are
> used as rudimentary flow control mechanisms, and can be seen on FD switches.
> Another thing is you CAN see them from is crosstalk, cable attenuation
> issues, Floresant lights, (and sun spots j/k), power cables trashing your
> signal, and many other weird ones.  Telnet to a production switch with a lot
> of traffic going through it and take a peak sometime, then clear the
> counters and let it roll on.
> 
> And heck who knows, I'm wrong on occasion, if I am now I just need to lay
> off the crack:)  j/k
> 
> Shawn
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jeff
> Kell
> Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 12:16 AM
> To: Bowen, Shawn
> Cc: Priscilla Oppenheimer; Andy Walden; John lay; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Confused (was Re: is this statement true ??)
> 
> "Bowen, Shawn" wrote:
> >
> > Yup, makes sense.  I can only speak for 3Com on this one, but I believe
> > Cisco implements similar features.  On a 3Com Corebuilder (as well as
> their
> > Workgroup Switches) they use fake collisions as a flow control mechanism.
> > In other words if there was contention at the server or switch and they
> > couldn't handle the load then a collision (a JAM) will be sent.  Now, that
> > said after we all just agreed that collisions can not happen on a full
> > duplex Ethernet segment:)  If you notice in Cisco texts that Collision
> > Detection is disabled on full duplex links, this is not true.  Collision
> > detection is still there, at least on a 5000 and can be simulated by
> loading
> > up a server at 10MB FD with a few 100MB FD clients on the other end of the
> > Cat, you will see this in action.  3Com does the same thing, I thought
> this
> > was kinda interesting.
> 
> If collisions are reported on the Cisco 5000 then forget my following
> diatribe as I don't have time to simulate it (and no testbed 5000, it
> would be the production switch).
> 
> You stated (let me repeat it for emphasis)...
> 
> > Collision detection is still there, at least on a 5000 and can be
> > simulated by loading up a server at 10MB FD with a few 100MB FD
>   ^^^
> > clients on the other end of the Cat, you will see this in action.
> 
> Older switches implement flow control in one of two ways:
> * Simulated collisions (not terribly efficient), or
> * Extended carrier to indicate busy (assert carrier beyond the length
>   of the packet).
> 
> With 100Mbps we have varying implementations of the 802.
> method of the "pause" indicator in the header, and/or the "throttle"
> mechanism (in Cisco terminology).  But your example specifically
> indicates 10Mb, which has another variable.
> 
> In 10Mb ethernet, many NICs are setup to detect "jabber" -- asserting
> carrier longer than the max packet length.  If this is detected, the
> transmit circuit is turned off (ref Siefert, _Gigabit Ethernet_). 
> 
> All of the flow controls, as well as the "jabber" detection, can
> result in a variety of line errors.  Only in the "throttle" case does
> a Cisco switch continue without logging errors other than throttle
> packet counts.  Throttling or pausing is undefined for 10Mb which may
> be the corner case you are presenting, depending upon the intelligence
> of the NIC in the server.
> 
> In a normal case, I would expect discards if you were throwing many
> 100Mb clients at a 10Mb server connection, after all flow control and
> switch store-and-forward buffers had been exhausted.  You can overload
> some of the older Catalyst switches (2926 for example) which has 24
> ports at 100Mb and 2 uplinks at 100Mb but only 1.2Gb backplane.  If we
> ignore the potential over

Re: problems configuring a 5500 chasis please help

2000-12-27 Thread Tony van Ree

Hi,

Somehere else they showed a WS-X5224 card as being the one doing the etherchannel.  My 
understanding is that WS-X5224 cards do not support etherchannel.

Teunis
Hobart, Tasmania
Australia

On Wednesday, December 27, 2000 at 12:31:09 AM, Jeff Kell wrote:

> Somewhere back in this thread somebody wrote:
> 
> > > > Are you sure you can plug the RSM into slot #2.  I remember 
> > > > someone telling me to have it in slot 12.  Please let me know if 
> > > > this is the case, our 5500 uses slot 2 for a back up sup III 
> > > > module and slot 12 for the RSM with Vip module.
> 
> Let's get really hardware geeky for a minute...
> 
> The 5500 has three 1.2 (or thereabouts) Gbps backplane buses.  Slots 1-5
> can access all three backplanes by themselves *IF* the blade in question
> can access all three backplanes.  The 5000 had only one bus and the
> blades it supports can go in any slot, but use only one bus.  Only the
> newer blades can access multiple buses at the same time.  
> 
> The "specialty" of the "bottom" slots (10 or 11 to 13) was for ATM
> originally, as they access a separate bus on the backplane dedicated for
> ATM.  If you have ATM blades, they go in the bottom.  Period.
> 
> As for the RSM, I *think* it can go in any slot.  The maximum bandwidth
> supported between the RSM and the Cat is 400Mbps - so that 
> in effect it has a "virtual" 4-line fast etherchannel link with the
> switch.  But that is it, no faster (for the RSM, newer blades
> excluded).  So it can quite comfortably fit on one bus.
> 
> The "big five" slots (1-5) should be used for supervisors (the SUP3 and
> beyond can hit all three buses) and newer blades like the ones with the
> "R" suffix and beyond, which can hit multiple buses.
> 
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RE: What can CDP offer ?

2000-12-27 Thread Tony van Ree

Hi,

Ensure you have cdp enabled on the serial ports as well as the ethernet port. 

Teunis,
Hobart, Tasmania
Australia


On Thursday, December 14, 2000 at 09:13:32 PM, Pierre-Alex wrote:

> I have 2 routers. They are connected back to back via serial port. The
> routers Ethernet ports are connected to a switch. When I use show cdp nei on
> any of the router, I only see information about the switch. Why is it so?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Tony van Ree
> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 3:41 PM
> To: CCIE TB; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: What can CDP offer ?
> 
> 
> Hi Adia,
> 
> I have found that CDP allows a bundle of good things.  Below are some
> examples,
> 
> A couple of switches on different LAN's the client tells me are configured
> correctly on each LAN with the correct SNMP community name cannot be
> discovered using SNMP and he cannot Telnet to them.  I am the supplier of
> the routers.
> 
> I perform a "sh cdp nei det" and in an instant can tell my client what he
> has done is configured the switches on a bench in his office.  Put them into
> the car and delivered each switch to the wrong building and therefore the
> switches are configured for a different LAN.
> 
> On an FDDI link a major client can see the services on the ring but cannot
> get data from point A to B.  A quick glipmse "sh cdp nei det" once again
> reveals the two routers in question have an IP address mixup.  In this case
> both the same IP address.  Looking through the ARP table would confirm this
> but the there were several hundred entries there.
> 
> I wanted to know if I had exactly matched my drawing for a switched network
> having some 50 2900XL switches going into a 5500.  I also needed to document
> serial no.s etc.  "sh cdp nei" gave me where the switches were.  It was a
> simple matter antering the data into the 5500 so this was in a sense self
> documenting.  A cut and paste of the details gave me the resto of my doco.
> 
> When IP, AppleTalk and/or IPX fails CDP might still be there  and show
> config issues.
> 
> CDP is very handy.
> 
> Teunis,
> Hobart, Tasmania
> Australia
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, December 12, 2000 at 11:25:44 PM, CCIE TB wrote:
> 
> > Hi group members,
> >
> > I'm just wondering...if you can access a router by telneting to it, you
> can
> > get most of the information that you will get through CDP. Then what is
> the
> > benefit of CDP?
> >
> > Thanks to all
> >
> > Adia
> >
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Password Recovery on a 2924XL-A

2000-12-27 Thread Kevin Hunt

I just bought a 2924XL-A off ebay and the password recovery method 
listed on cisco's site doesn't work.  I hold down the mode key, boot up 
the switch, get the switch: prompt, type in init_flash, then 
load_helper, then when I do a dir flash  I get this message
"unable to stat flash/: permission denied"

Any ideas?
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Re: So what SHOULD a CCIE know?

2000-12-27 Thread Roger Dellaca

No flames please, but ...

Considering the enormous wait time for the lab now, and our desire to keep this cert 
revered, I think the written should be more difficult - I don't know if that means 
more questions, tougher questions, higher passing score, or all of the above ...

I haven't taken the lab yet (Jan 4-5), but we've all heard that you'll have to do 
things that nobody would dare implement in a real network.  I can understand that to 
some extent, to test depth of knowledge, but I think a CCIE also should have proved 
that he/she can build a network that makes a whole crapload of sense.  (I guess that 
also means I believe that when Cisco went up to 5 CCIE tracks, they were off their 
nut, and maybe now they're starting to come to their senses)

>>> "Chuck Larrieu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 12/27 11:39 AM >>>
We've all seen a number of comments about the CCIE written and the CCIE Lab,
regarding content. Most of those comments have been negative.

So, what SHOULD be tested? What SHOULD a CCIE know?

Anyone?

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Re: So what SHOULD a CCIE know?

2000-12-27 Thread John Hardman

Humm... interesting question.

>From one point of view...

What should be tested (or not tested):

In over 10 years of IT work I have only ran across AppleTalk once, so drop
AppleTalk (which they are doing).

In the same time frame I have only ran across one IPX network that wasn't
either in the process of being converted to 100BaseT or was only being used
in the DC to connect to a Novell server that was a file server which had
it's drives mapped to NT drives. So IPX should take a big back seat to IP.

TR, well personally I like it, but again I have only seen one network with
TR that wasn't planned to be changed to 100BaseT. Come to think of it, they
announced the upgrade a couple of months after I left there. So TR should
also be in the back seat.

Bridging, humm... well in some respects it is rarely used in the networks I
have seen, mostly to get to SNA servers. But then again you had better know
your IRB pretty well with all of the L3 switching that companies are being
sold these days.

L3 switching, better know that pretty well. There are just too many
companies being sold L3 that it had better take a bigger role in the lab.

The R/S written and lab should take on more of the service provider element.
I am not saying that the new SP track should be rolled into the RS track.
But with outsourcing and the Internet with VPN, dial and the like taking a
bigger and bigger role in most companies, better know your ATM, dial, VPN,
BGP, etc, etc. The same can be said for security.

Not having taken the lab, I can not really say as to how IPX, TR, or
bridging is tested. It could be that it is tested as a primary thing and not
as a secondary, e.g. "well looks like we are going to have to deal with that
TR segment over rather we want to or not". The same could be said for ATM,
maybe it should be a primary and not a secondary.

Well there is $0.02 from one point of view, HTH.
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> We've all seen a number of comments about the CCIE written and the CCIE
Lab,
> regarding content. Most of those comments have been negative.
>
> So, what SHOULD be tested? What SHOULD a CCIE know?
>
> Anyone?
>
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Re: So what SHOULD a CCIE know?

2000-12-27 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

>We've all seen a number of comments about the CCIE written and the CCIE Lab,
>regarding content. Most of those comments have been negative.
>
>So, what SHOULD be tested? What SHOULD a CCIE know?
>
>Anyone?
>
>Chuck

I'll make a few observations, some of which may be controversial.  I 
realize many people look at CCIE as the ultimate, but I can't 
consider it such. It is meaningful, but there are lots of jobs that 
require more and/or more specialized knowledge and experience.

CCIE (R&S) indicates a solid understanding of routing and switching, 
from a deployment and support standpoint, for medium to large 
enterprises and small ISPs.

It does not indicate significant competence in:

  -- requirements analysis and large network architecture
  -- product evaluation/selection
  -- global Internet routing
  -- protocol architecture, design, and implementation
  -- formal performance specification, analysis, and tuning; capacity
 planning
  -- security requirements and planning (i.e., why you select which
 IPsec, etc., parameters)
  -- large-scale network management

It appears to be including a good deal of VoIP, but it is not a 
general telecom certification.

The basic CCIE shows substantial competence in workgroup protocols, 
but not SNA. It considers hosts only in the manner to which they 
interface to the routing and switching system.

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Re: So what SHOULD a CCIE know?

2000-12-27 Thread Lance Hubbard


Well let's start with the obvious.

  It's well documented that if a CCIE candidate has limited knot-tying 
hands-on experience to go along with his/her book knowledge, the probability 
of a "tripping mishap" is increased dramatically.  Imagine the embarassment 
of the candidate, when he/she injurs themselves while entering the Lab 
examination roomall because of an untied shoelace which could have been 
easily avoided had the candidate spent more time with "hands-on" exercises.

Lance

>From: "Chuck Larrieu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Chuck Larrieu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Cisco Mail List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: So what SHOULD a CCIE know?
>Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 11:39:43 -0800
>
>We've all seen a number of comments about the CCIE written and the CCIE 
>Lab,
>regarding content. Most of those comments have been negative.
>
>So, what SHOULD be tested? What SHOULD a CCIE know?
>
>Anyone?
>
>Chuck
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Re: confused !!! (routing protocol terminology)

2000-12-27 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

One reason the routing protocol terminology is confusing is that different 
groups of engineers at Cisco implement the protocols, and they use 
terminology in inconsistent ways. We've had a few questions lately about 
how to learn Cisco concepts logically. Sometimes you just can't apply 
logic! &;-)

EIGRP doesn't run between autonomous systems since it's an interior routing 
protocol. I think it's a misnomer that the parameter used to identify an 
EIGRP group of networks is called an autonomous system number, (although it 
is sometimes recommended that one use an actual autonomous system number, 
simply for documentation reasons.) It's also a misnomer to call the 
parameter a process ID, although I've seen it called that also. It has more 
significance than simply an identifier for software running on a single 
router. The number must be the same for all EIGRP routers in an 
internetwork that share information.

OSPF is an exterior routing protocol, so it has a need to identify a group 
of routers in one domain, under one administrative control. These routers 
are identified with an autonomous system number. OSPF also has the concept 
of an area, which is a subset of neighbor routers within a domain. Routers 
in an area share identical, detailed information about each other's links, 
but have only summarized information about links outside their area.

The OSPF process ID simply identifies the instance of the OSPF software 
running on a single router. It's like a UNIX process ID. It's just a local 
housekeeping variable. It has no significance outside the router on which 
it is configured, unlike the area and autonomous system numbers for OSPF 
(and EIGRP) which have non-local significance. An interesting feature with 
Cisco's OSPF implementation is that you can run OSPF multiple times on a 
single router by using a different process ID for each instance.

Hope that makes some sense. Howard has written some good responses about 
autonomous systems (which he says is not supposed to be abbreviated as ASS, 
by the way &;-). Check the archives.

Priscilla

At 08:13 AM 12/27/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Hi folks,
>
>Can you help
>I 'm curently preparing for the BSCN exam which I hope to take end Jan
>beginning Feb. But I seem to be confused on some terminology on OSPF
>configuration. Consider the following line router ospf 1
>I know 1 is the proccess ID. The problem is how does this differ from the AS
>or area ?
>In contrast, in the following command  router eigrp 200. 200 is the AS
>Is there a reason for this?
>I'll appreciate any help.
>Peace
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RE: CID test vs. CCIE written

2000-12-27 Thread Brian Lodwick

I remember in the Ciscopress ACRC book there was some good info on RII and 
RIF's which were part of the section going over SRT bridging. I bet the book 
to get would be the CCIE LAN switching book. Then again I bet neither of 
those has only one page on this info.

>>>Brian



>From: "Chuck Larrieu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Chuck Larrieu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Dennis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: CID test vs. CCIE written
>Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 11:20:44 -0800
>
>Comments below
>
>-Original Message-
>From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
>Dennis
>Sent:  Wednesday, December 27, 2000 10:58 AM
>To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject:   CID test vs. CCIE written
>
>Just took and passed the CID test.  I have heard that this test is similar
>in scope to the CCIE R/S qualification test.
>
>CL: sorta kinda
>If you passed the CID yesterday and have not reviewed the CCIE written
>blueprint, do not be surprised when you fail the written miserably.
>
>Anybody have any feedback on that statement?
>
>CL: all cisco tests I have taken cover similar topics. CCIE written was
>different in that 1) specific  token ring / RIF / bridging is involved and
>2) more specific questions regarding protocol behaviours.
>
>Also, does anyone know if there are command line type ins on the CCIE
>written?
>
>CL: all the questions I saw on mine were multiple choice. Can't speak for
>anyone else's tests.
>
>And can anyone recommend a good 'one-pager' on RIF's, Token Ring, bridging,
>etc??
>
>CL: www.groupstudy.com   look under study aids for the paper by Fred Ingham
>well, maybe not. Fred's is 2 pages ;->
>
>Thanks,
>Dennis
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Re: confused !!!

2000-12-27 Thread Andrew Smith

On 27-Dec-2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi folks,
> 
> Can you help
> I 'm curently preparing for the BSCN exam which I hope to take end Jan
> beginning Feb. But I seem to be confused on some terminology on OSPF
> configuration. Consider the following line router ospf 1  
> I know 1 is the proccess ID. The problem is how does this differ from the AS
> or area ?
> In contrast, in the following command  router eigrp 200. 200 is the AS
> Is there a reason for this?
> I'll appreciate any help.
> Peace
 
The number "1" in that statement only means which instance of OSPF running
on the router. You could have router ospf 1 and be part of an OSPF AS
on one interface and have router ospf 2 on a different OSPF AS on a
different interface. It's ugly and something really uncommonly used
(the preferred thing would be to run BGP between the two OSPF AS's
but this would be the way to go if you had a single router connecting
them, rather than a pair of routers (one at each location)). OSPF has
no concept of numbered AS's. If OSPF is being spoken on a particular
segment of the network, that's the only instance that's supposed to be
running there. I think that you could run two seperate OSPF AS's on the
same wire by using different auth keys on the different routers, but
some OSPF implementations really scream when they see this. In a
nutshell, EIGRP has this mechanism for being able to run seperate
EIGRP AS's on the same medium while OSPF doesn't.
 
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Re: x.25 connection problem

2000-12-27 Thread Brian Lodwick


  I am pretty sure you'll have to figure out what should be configured to 
specify the logical channels coming from the x.25 node. For our network we 
only specify the "htc" . This can be lic, hic, ltc, htc, loc, hoc.
i - incoming
t - two-way
o - outgoing
l - low
h - high
c - circuit

  Oh, wait a minute in the book it says for a pvc you use x25 pvc ## instead 
of like what we use x25 htc ##. I've never done an x.25 pvc before we always 
do SVC's.
  (This should match the amount of logical ports configured on the x.25 
node. If it doesn't it won't not work most of the time it will most of the 
time hang the ports on the node if say you configure more channels on the 
router than are set on the node for your spoke.)
The way we normally configure this is with a translate statement, but the 
way we do it is far from normal. You can try using a translate statement it 
will probobaly work, but the proper way to configure a PVC is to use the x25 
pvc 
  I would just additionally verify the packet size and window size you have 
configured.

>>>Brian

>From: "kw.wong(Ah Wang)^_^" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "kw.wong(Ah Wang)^_^" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>CC: voyie wu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, terence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>"patrick.lo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, rayyau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>"raymond.yeung" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,"danny.leong" 
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,charlesw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Cheng Man wai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,vincent 
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>Subject: x.25 connection problem
>Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 00:30:41 +0800
>
>Dear All :
>
>I went connect to our company cisco 2610 through the lease line to x.25
>system in B company. But, B the company  hotline operator  said : no any
>config in our 2610 router. Just create the PVC circuit only and ignore
>the pvc circuit number.
>
>1 ) How to config the serial interface connect to X.25 system.
> This information provide from this  B company.
>  interface Serial0/0
>  no ip address
>  encapsulation x25
>  x25 win 7
>  x25 wout 7
>  x25 ips 1024
>  x25 ops 1024
>  lapb T1 3
>  lapb N2 10
>
>2 ) I know the x.121 address need to apply in our router.
> But, the B company said again not need this address.
>
>3 ) how to config the PVC circuit to B company ?
> any sample config ?
>
>
>Thank you !
>
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Re: So what SHOULD a CCIE know?

2000-12-27 Thread Jim Healis

I feel that a CCIE should know everything in his technology specialty (i.e. routed
global networks with enterprise switching) like he ate it for breakfast. For everything
else a CCIE should have a general knowledge and know exactly how and where to find more
information on the subject.

About the tests:  I think they are good, though they could be a bit more in depth 
(maybe
more questions on certain topics).  When I took the written the first time I came out 
of
it with a headache and a clear path of what I needed to work on.  I'm glad to see that
they are retiring some of the older protocols, but for those that work strictly in the
IP area it can be a burden to learn things we have never touched and don't work with.

-j

Chuck Larrieu wrote:

> We've all seen a number of comments about the CCIE written and the CCIE Lab,
> regarding content. Most of those comments have been negative.
>
> So, what SHOULD be tested? What SHOULD a CCIE know?
>
> Anyone?
>
> Chuck
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CID official study guide (640-025)

2000-12-27 Thread Sanjay Dalal



Does anyone have the Cisco Internetwork Design official study guide?
I am appearing for my CID exam in two weeks and would greatly appreciate
if someone could loan me the study guide .
thanks in advance
Sanjay

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So what SHOULD a CCIE know?

2000-12-27 Thread Chuck Larrieu

We've all seen a number of comments about the CCIE written and the CCIE Lab,
regarding content. Most of those comments have been negative.

So, what SHOULD be tested? What SHOULD a CCIE know?

Anyone?

Chuck
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Re: Cisco Dial Out Utility

2000-12-27 Thread Lowell Sharrah

I'm downloading it now.  Thanks.

Lowell E. Sharrah
SBC-DataComm
517-241-7059 wk
517-360-0481 pgr
517-930-1993 cell
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>>> "C. Warren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 12/27/00 01:56PM >>>
Not sure how current this is, but found it out there for download:

ftp://ftp.iconz.co.nz/pub/cisco/Dout354.exe 

Chuck

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I
> had it on crashed.  DOES anyone have a copy they could shoot me.
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RE: CID test vs. CCIE written

2000-12-27 Thread Bowen, Shawn

It is similar in length, but it encompasses different items.  The "feel" is
similar, though you can go back through your answers on the written as many
times as you want.  I don't care what Cisco's www site says, it still has
TON's of Token Ring questions, you better know RIF's really well.  There is
ATM and LANE on it as well.  Also some very detailed circuit questions.  IPX
framing questions, basic DLSW, and STUN were on it as well.  I took both of
these last week, CID on Monday and CCIE on Tuesday, I was still amazed at
some of the abstract crap they through at me.

Good luck,
Shawn

P.S.

RIF = http://www.groupstudy.com/archives/cisco/199901/msg01626.html


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Subject: CID test vs. CCIE written

Just took and passed the CID test.  I have heard that this test is similar
in scope to the CCIE R/S qualification test.

Anybody have any feedback on that statement?

Also, does anyone know if there are command line type ins on the CCIE
written?

And can anyone recommend a good 'one-pager' on RIF's, Token Ring, bridging,
etc??

Thanks,
Dennis
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RE: CID test vs. CCIE written

2000-12-27 Thread Chuck Larrieu

Comments below

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Dennis
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Subject:CID test vs. CCIE written

Just took and passed the CID test.  I have heard that this test is similar
in scope to the CCIE R/S qualification test.

CL: sorta kinda
If you passed the CID yesterday and have not reviewed the CCIE written
blueprint, do not be surprised when you fail the written miserably.

Anybody have any feedback on that statement?

CL: all cisco tests I have taken cover similar topics. CCIE written was
different in that 1) specific  token ring / RIF / bridging is involved and
2) more specific questions regarding protocol behaviours.

Also, does anyone know if there are command line type ins on the CCIE
written?

CL: all the questions I saw on mine were multiple choice. Can't speak for
anyone else's tests.

And can anyone recommend a good 'one-pager' on RIF's, Token Ring, bridging,
etc??

CL: www.groupstudy.com   look under study aids for the paper by Fred Ingham
well, maybe not. Fred's is 2 pages ;->

Thanks,
Dennis
CCNP, CCDP




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Re: Interface backup

2000-12-27 Thread Kelly D Griffin

It depends on how you configure it.  If you use Legacy DDR it will be locked
into use as a backup only.  If you configure with a DIALER interface, then
it is used on a first-come, first-served basis.

Kelly D Griffin, CCNA
Network Engineer
Kg2 Network Design
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> Once you make a BRI interface a backup to say a serial interface, does =
> it lock it down so that it is not useable for any other purposes?
>
> eg:
> interface serial 0
>  backup load 60 5
>  backup interface bri 0
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Re: good salary in london

2000-12-27 Thread Lauren Child



netlinesys wrote:
> 
> It depends how big is the house ,  and location also
> 

Take a look at http://www.net-lettings.co.uk/ for average rents etc. by
location in London and links to estate agents.

TTFN
Lauren

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RE: Interface backup

2000-12-27 Thread Radford Dion

Yes . The better way to do it is to create virtual dialer interfaces. ie
dialer 0, dialer 1 etc

You can make dialer 0 the backup to the serial line, while dialer 1 can be
used for other purposes.

The obvious risk with this is that the BRI may be in use when you need it
for backup purposes. You may want to 'reserve' 1 channel of the BRI just for
backup use (which can be done using dialer interfaces I think)


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> it lock it down so that it is not useable for any other purposes?
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Re: Interface backup

2000-12-27 Thread Brian Lodwick

Perfect BCRAN question! Do you make the Cisco tests?
It does lock it down in standby mode UNLESS -you make it part of a dialer 
profile.

>>>Brian


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>Once you make a BRI interface a backup to say a serial interface, does =
>it lock it down so that it is not useable for any other purposes?
>
>eg:
>interface serial 0
>  backup load 60 5
>  backup interface bri 0
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Cisco PCMICIA Utility

2000-12-27 Thread Bowen, Shawn

Does anyone have or know where to get the Cisco software package for
formatting a PCMCIA Flash card in your PC and doing file manipulation with
it (Using the Cisco format so it's compatible when you stick it back in the
router or switch)???  I know it exists, but I have searched hi and low on
CCO to no avail.

Thanks,
Shawn

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RE: Interface backup

2000-12-27 Thread David Wolsefer

If you specify a physical interface such as bri 0, then the physical
interface is placed into standby and is unusable for any other purpose. The
way you get around this problem is to use dialer profiles so that the
logical dialer interface is placed into standby instead, leaving the actual
physical interface free to use for another purpose.

Regards,

David Wolsefer, CCIE #5858

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Once you make a BRI interface a backup to say a serial interface, does =
it lock it down so that it is not useable for any other purposes?

eg:
interface serial 0
 backup load 60 5
 backup interface bri 0

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